#[WT56] [MoI] - Federal Highway Request

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abstract tendon
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I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. Thank you.

alpine rapids
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requesting title for myself

prime pivot
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Hello there, I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. I know the rules, I build many blocks of tunnels, bridges and roads in the past πŸ™‚

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Also maybe create a thread for HW workers, where we (:) can discuss various issues, situations and solutions for problems at hand.

fleet lotus
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requesting also πŸ™‚

silk mantle
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also requesting

fierce tiger
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Requesting the title

Please, consider including incentives for digging dirt, clay and other blocks as part of the payment law. The jungle east of Unica will require a lot of digging.

prime pivot
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that will be just boom road

thorn idol
marsh summit
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requesting title

flat compass
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requesting title please

silk mantle
thorn idol
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You are being paid to mine and remove, no depot for dumping.

silk mantle
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thats what i figured

hazy gull
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✌️ Those who will wait too long for the issuance of the title for road construction - write in the game, in Discord in a private message, don't be shy.

silk mantle
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For east from unica is that going to be a tunnel or should that be dug down all the way

prime pivot
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Q: what is the clearance of tunnel under water ? - rivers and ocean ?

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to be precices - clearance of water blocks between the water level and top tunnel block

hazy gull
prime pivot
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I will test if the ladder building in water still works πŸ˜„

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pls, help.. what to do ?

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I think its because HW workers can work only to y69 maybe ? Anyways, may I apply for the Federal Engineer title ? It will be necessary for the bridges over ocean anyways ye ?

thorn idol
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what are you trying to build with?

prime pivot
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I am trying to place adobe ladder so it creates an air buble in the water i can work with and I am not floating

thorn idol
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thats why, adobe is blocked

prime pivot
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kk, hewn logs ok ?

thorn idol
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a hewn ladder should work

prime pivot
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cool, thx

thorn idol
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you will need the Engineer title at some point though

pliant crater
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requesting title too!

silk mantle
torn prism
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Title please, know how this goes.

prime pivot
silk mantle
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explosives are new since i last played

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for now just digging enough clearance to get carts through so 3 high

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rest can be cleared later

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though i'm not seeing any payout?

thorn idol
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pay out is every 5 mins as long as you are working in the central highways district

hazy gull
prime pivot
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wow. 6? i remember that being 5

hazy gull
prime pivot
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now the water - is it ok that we leave 3 blocks of water above the tunnel here for the water traffic ?

thorn idol
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I've given you the Engineer title for working on this project

hazy gull
prime pivot
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if we build a bridge, we need to go from Y80 to Y70, if we build the tunnel 6h with 3 blocks of water, its from 63 to 70 . If we have 5height, as were the ocean tunnels, its 64 to 70.

hazy gull
prime pivot
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Also question - i looked up when i was tunneling last time and the requirements really were 5blocks for underwater tunnels. What changed so its 6 now? Is there a new big vehicle which needs the space , or ?

hazy gull
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Height - 8. According to the law, don't worry πŸ™‚

fossil parrot
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I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. Thank you.

weak sundial
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Requesting title for Vulpes Stoneworks company workes (me and Каюби)

unique kelp
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I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title.

brave basalt
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i request the title πŸ™‚

cedar onyx
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Requesting title for ZM WOOD company workers (noeyedeer, lovees, binge), thank you!πŸ˜€

minor kestrel
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Requesting the title please

weak sundial
cerulean wadi
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I read the them rules and i understand them. Could I have the road worker title?

obsidian plume
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Have read the rules, requesting title πŸ™‚

inland spruce
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Hey! I would like to get the federal highway worker title πŸ™‚

alpine rapids
gentle flower
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Requestin Title πŸ˜„

vital sinew
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Requesting title for me (SeaSkai) and Shepard2197 (Two Hunters One Hut company)

mortal rampart
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Requesting title on behalf of my company. IGN Serrik and Recyclops

cerulean ingot
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I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title and Engineer title in game name maddogisme1. Thank you

silk mantle
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I would like to start any paperwork I need to do for the ocean crossing bridge at 30, 300

blazing epoch
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I would like to help making the Federation paved please.

gentle flower
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Requesting Engineer title so that i may make connections to existing infrastructure through the buffer

silk mantle
clear goblet
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I have read the rules and request the title please

next berry
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Have read the rules, requesting title , thx

scarlet igloo
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I have read the rules and request the title mason

jolly fern
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I'd like to apply for the title, I read the rules.

limpid lantern
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Have read the rules, requesting title πŸ™‚

low canopy
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Read the rules, requesting title as a miner/escavator for my desert road!

hazy gull
wicked steeple
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I agree with the rules and request a title, as well as the title of federal engineer, to be able to build bridges and laser towers.

sacred shale
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I read the them rules and i understand them. Could I have the road worker title?

hazy gull
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[MoI] If you have any questions about bridge laying and have difficulties making a decision, contact me, I will help as much as I can. No problem.

thorn idol
gentle flower
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I could not place adobe block in the buffer zone

wicked steeple
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@gentle floweryou not need engineer for it

hazy gull
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Engineers were only given to those who needed to build bridges and tunnels, supposedly.

thorn idol
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adobe can't be used on the highways

silk mantle
gentle flower
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Buffer zone

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The result of what your saying a substantial amount of people will have to use stockpiles of dirt to connect existing infrastructure to highway

silk mantle
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but i was also able to build stuff in buffer in a different spot so idk

thorn idol
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unless the y level is above 77 then mortared stone shouldn't be blocked

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ocean bridges are a little way off yet

silk mantle
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oof

tender moat
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Requesting the title

uncut cipher
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I've read the rules looking forward to build. Can I have the road worker title as well please?

wicked steeple
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@hazy gull builded very basic dock, spent 525 Hewn logs

hazy gull
gentle flower
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Seperate from my buffer issue earlier: must the buffer be at 70 or may i begin a ramp in the buffer

hazy gull
gentle flower
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Can I ramp up or down in the buffer or must it be flat

hazy gull
gentle flower
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So can I or can I not plan on being able to have ramp place in the buffer zone

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Looking at the park city connection road height of 78 so I need to figure out 32 tiles of ramp distance to give you an idea of why im asking

hazy gull
torn prism
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I'd like to fix the bridge near where I stay that goes over the water to its proper height but I need federal engineer for such things.

hazy gull
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[MoI] Important announcement for federal engineers: In 2 hours I will start inspecting bridges (as a priority) for their construction according to requirements. If there are violations, the title of federal engineer will be revoked.

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To work more effectively, we will approach this issue more radically. Sorry about that. You receive money, but you do not want to do quality work. That won't do.

hazy gull
misty wharf
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HI. I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. Thank you.

distant ether
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HI. I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. Thank you.

lofty pumice
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I would like to apply for the title please. I have read and agree

hazy gull
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@torn prism are you here?

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The bridge is made according to this design, with side walls made of building stone added for the railings, so as not to fall into the river.

pliant crater
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the roads of the 15 wide highway is build, the other sides and buffer isnt done yet

hazy gull
pliant crater
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yes, i did the claim tool and measured accordingly

hazy gull
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@pliant crater

Let's figure out once again what title you need?

  1. Road worker, just building roads

  2. Federal Engineer, who builds - bridges, tunnels

pliant crater
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can i do both? i can build tunnels and bridges too.

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i roughly know the x y z size of the tunnel needed to be dug out

hazy gull
pliant crater
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okay! let me get some mortared stone make it look good

hazy gull
thorn idol
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For clarification on titles
National Highways Worker can build roads, tunnels and bridges at the standard highways hight of 70
Federal Engineer is only needed for bridges over ocean and locations where the standard road hight of 70 can not be achieved such as going under or over a river.

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@abstract tendon Please remove the excess mortared stone from this bridge, it should only be a 5 wide stone road with a single mortared stone wall at this stage.

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@silk mantle Please remove the excess mortared stone from this bridge, it should only be a 5 wide stone road with a single mortared stone wall at this stage.

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@minor kestrel Please remove the excess mortared stone from this location 680,822, it should only be a 5 wide stone road at this time.

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Titles will be revoked should the above examples are not corrected.

quartz shadow
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Can I get the highway worker title so I can add to the road too? πŸ™‚ In-game name Shoop de Boop. We're a little bit stuck to the far east of Unica and it would be great to extend the road up to us πŸ™‚

hazy gull
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[MoI] Dear players! Once again, we are addressing the issue of road (bridge, tunnel) construction. At the moment, the width of the road should be 5 tiles (made of stone road). Do not make buffers from building stone! Leave the buffer made of natural stone, soil, and clay. Ignoring this message will result in penalties for construction errors (which we would very much like to avoid). Thank you for your understanding!

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When you review it again, please put a 'reaction' (eyes) under the screenshot. πŸ‘€

prime pivot
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Yo Kast.. I am at this point waiting for iron tools... they shall be avail. soon.

ivory egret
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Can I get the highway worker title? Stephen in game!

ripe fjord
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@dapper steppe

dapper steppe
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hello

thorn idol
grand cedar
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I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. I understand and align with the proposed guilines this cycle Thank you.

silk mantle
silk mantle
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The girth reduction surgery has been completed

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How much of a terrain height difference before a railing called for?

abstract tendon
# thorn idol <@359459717665259520> Please remove the excess mortared stone from this bridge, ...

Hey,

I do recognize the clarifications of the MoI and will definitely follow them in further construction. But in case of this bridge I disagree with the request for changes.

The initial post with rules do not make any statements about the buffer between the road and the railing. The road layout does also not make any statements about bridges or buffers, the design does not include any railings.
The wishes of the MoI were communicated that is true, but after the bridge was functionally completed and in use.

Therefore I do not agree that the bridge violates any of the posted rules.

Of course the MoI does have full jurisdiction about the federal bridges so feel free to have it modified by anybody in any way you see fit. But I do not see the responsibility to do so myself.

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Tbh since the criticism boils down to it being too big and basically already being the size of the next phase, I just don’t think it makes sense to deconstruct it now to just rebuild it next phase anyways.
There is a lot more tunnel work to do where my time is spent better.

silk mantle
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I tend to agree

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and also wish to observe that one of the reasons these bridges where build like this is they were done before stone road was properly coming out to be placed

hazy gull
# abstract tendon Tbh since the criticism boils down to it being too big and basically already bei...

Hi, let's just close this topic already, otherwise it can go on endlessly. The fact is: the construction does not meet the requirements (the plan), the fact that you first built a road from construction stone and then a road appeared is not the designer's problem, but your own initiative, for which you received money unfairly and do not want to correct the mistakes, and on top of that, if you have any doubts about correctness, you could ask me or in the Discord chatβ€”which you did not do. Accordingly, because of your self-initiative, these investigations are going on now.

abstract tendon
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okay

thorn idol
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Thank you both for the feedback and sorry for any confusion that there may have been as well.
Firstly I just wanted to go over some of the reasoning for ensuring that the design is stuck to, at this early stage when budgets are/were low its governments responsibility to make sure they are used reasonably. In this case a considerable amount of mortared stone was placed which has seen government funds paid out for the work.
Later on when this part of the road needs upgrading it will punish who ever has to remove the surface mortared stone while the original payment only benefits the original worker.
We also need every part of the highway to set an example to everyone else working on the highway so that these overspends don't happen more often.

In the case of DrRush, Thank you for resolving your part, it is appreciated in working towards the above points.

For Radicals I can see that there is clearly a lot more work involved so if we can instead try and mitigate the above points and just try to make sure we follow theses points. It would therefore be helpful if you take responsibility for this section when asphalt comes out so that other players don't have to bear that cost.
We do appreciate that this section will all be put to good use once we move to asphalt and that your time would be better spent.

abstract tendon
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I am very willing to replace it with asphalt when it becomes available. I actually built the bridge in mind with it being compatible with the later road width so you just have to replace the 8 lanes of mortared stone accordingly and with no further construction around the bridge. If budgetary reasons are the main driver for this conflict i am offering to return the received payment of the additional buffer stones to the infrastructure fond.

thorn idol
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In this case the budget will balance its self out once we move to asphalt and it hasn't been adversely hit, no need to repay on this occasion or take action to change the bridge at this time.

abstract tendon
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okay cool thank you.

sudden cedar
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HI. I would like to apply for the federal highway worker title. Thank you

modest sail
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I would like the Highway worker title too, thanks !

onyx topaz
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Can I get the road worker title please. I’ve read the rules

thorn idol
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@uncut cipher Just pointing out the requirement for federal highways at the moment is to have stone in the centre of the district, not at the side like this. If you could make sure to follow the design for future building.

shut bolt
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Hi, I wanna make a rake from my house to acceses the other road with ease

hazy gull
# shut bolt

Do you need a road worker title for this? You can read the rules and requirements and get the title.

hazy gull
# shut bolt

Obstacles cannot be placed on a federal road. The road must be built according to strict requirements, including the height.

urban parrot
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I have read the rules and apply for the title

silk mantle
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I'd like to petition for an increase in the digging payout even if that comes with a reduction in the payout for the roads.

silk mantle
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At current market pricing of 1.5 for roads and .1 for not dirt diggables. And before considering calorie, haulage, storage, or tool repairs.

'Free' placing road is $1.25 + 0 = $1.25 for roughly 1/3 of the work.

Single digging is $1.50 + 0.10-0.40 = $1.90 max for the 'default'

A basic 3 tall tunnel is $2.25 + 0.40-1.60 = $3.85 max for roughly 3 times the work.

300% more work =/= 200% payout best case

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Digging clay its ~170% of the payout for 400% the work

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and I'd argue the tunnels are way important thing to get done compared to the paving

alpine rapids
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the clay part will get additional motivation once bricks are out

silk mantle
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see i've been stockpiling the clay in anticpation of that

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but thats a cost in itself

uncut cipher
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what if if we change the plan here from a bridge to couple of ports on each side? @ near "zen mode store"

silk mantle
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@uncut cipheryour image didn't load

uncut cipher
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@silk mantle

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cant log in to server atm. but here we have a fed highway. and at the south landing right after the landing there is a beautiful river as well. so i thught it would be both more realistic and pretty to build two ports to cross the sea and the a med size bridge on south to cross the river there instead of a massive concrete monster to cross both.

hazy gull
prime pivot
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but I am afraid nobody can actually change the layout of fed HW... at least it was not possible in the past. We had to adhere to the layout no matter what πŸ™

hazy gull
clever sphinx
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Hi there! I dont know if it's still avaliable, but I'd like to apply for the federal highway worker title if possible. Thanks!

pine marten
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Hello, I would like to participate in road construction.

hazy gull
hazy gull
pine marten
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Elena_dlb

thorn idol
buoyant grove
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Hello, i've read the rules and would like to have the title !

quartz bronze
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Hello, i've read the rules and would like to have the title as well

hazy gull
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[MoI] Tomorrow, a series of inspections regarding the laying of roads, bridges, and tunnels will be conducted. So stay tuned πŸ™‚

hazy gull
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[MoI] Dear players! Hello everyone! A huge request: when the asphalt opens, do not rush to lay it. Wait for an exact template for the road laying requirement. I will make a sample in the game and send a screenshot. Please do not hurry! Thank you and enjoy the game πŸ™‚

silk mantle
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Requesting engineer title, Dr.Rush ingame

pliant crater
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you want me to build the bridge at south Unica?

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there is an underground tunnel there

hazy gull
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[MoI] - Due to the inactivity of the work of Federal engineers, the old engineers will be reset and new FEs will be put in their place. Applications can also be sent to Discord in the corresponding topic.

silk mantle
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Is this not the correct topic to reqest the role then?

hazy gull
silk mantle
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o/

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Whats needed where currently then

hazy gull
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I will now write the nicknames of federal engineers who can be contacted regarding the construction of bridges and tunnels.

Dinq, Dr.Rush, Labubu Otto

I think the limit of engineers will be 10 people (not including me, for monitoring and adjusting the constructions). ...

uncut cipher
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sorry im not very good with discord. can you give me the link to the post where the fed engi reqs are written?

hazy gull
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πŸŒ‰ @wicked steeple @silk mantle @pliant crater If there are doubts about the correctness, the height - write to me in the game or DM. I'll come in - take a look. We work with quality!

hazy gull
pliant crater
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okay!

hazy gull
silk mantle
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When can oceanic bridges be started, and whats the logistics of ordering special materials for aesthetics on said large bridges

hazy gull
silk mantle
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yes

hazy gull
# silk mantle yes

I would make purchases of materials for construction. I put this issue up for discussion.

uncut cipher
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thanks. in that case id like to apply for becoming a fed engi please

silk mantle
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okay thanks

hazy gull
# silk mantle okay thanks

Bridges are usually built on the basis of the law on highway payment. It provides for payment for asphalt, t2, t3, t4

@wicked steeple @silk mantle @pliant crater

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I like to ask for bridge builders to propose designs as we sometimes get some quite nice ones.

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You can suggest your ideas for decorating the bridges, maybe you have your own designer perspective.

prime pivot
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(under ocean)

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I plan to make bridges and tunnels, but I am waiting for several things to happen:

  1. I need stampmill and in general T2 mininig equipment
  2. cement, concrete
  3. steel tools
  4. steam trucks to actually haul cargo from the dig sites in reasonable amounts and speed
  5. boom sticks
silk mantle
hazy gull
hazy gull
silk mantle
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might have to pivot to a different cable bridge style if the curve is too hard to make

prime pivot
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Before T3 materials, FEs can build only tunnels in HW zones (as you cannot go below y69 with just HW worker.) however I am not sure if FE is needed to build HW bridges over rivers - meaning if there is any height limit for their work inland.

prime pivot
hazy gull
prime pivot
hazy gull
prime pivot
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its the idea..

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May I ask for the FE title again to continue works on the Unica south tunnel ?

hazy gull
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πŸŒ‰ @Dinq @DrRush @Otto @prime pivot If there are doubts about the correctness, the height - write to me in the game or DM. I'll come in - take a look. We work with quality!

hazy gull
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Many thanks to everyone for the cooperation. I resigned voluntarily for a number of reasons: there is no control over the repair work, and most importantly, no punishment for violators. "After all, people are human, everyone can make mistakes," ignoring the construction requirements. I am not satisfied with this. I wish you luck in further "proper" construction of roads, tunnels, and bridges.

coarse kestrel
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Hello, i've read the rules and would like to have the title!

thorn idol
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@vital sinew For information: A large part of the federal highways has been built wrong, please note that the stone road should have been in the middle of the district.

hazy gull
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@sleek oar

vital sinew
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Perhaps I misunderstood the complaint.

thorn idol
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Problem with that is someone else will have to fix it and get charged for picking up the stone roads once we move to asphalt.

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Not saying you need to fix it, this is more for awareness that the work wasn't done per the design.

vital sinew
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Just to clarify, are you referring to the road I built in the buffer zone?

thorn idol
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its partly in the buffer zone, that bit doesnt get paid for placement though. the road should have been in the center of the district

hazy gull
vital sinew
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Okay I guess I found info

So the road needs to be in the center, 5 tiles width?

thorn idol
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in this case it would be 4 wide as its a 10 wide highway section.

vital sinew
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Got it

Can I compensate it somehow?

hazy gull
thorn idol
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Asphalt comes out next week, if you are still going to be working on the roads then it could be fixed as part of that work.

vital sinew
# hazy gull

My bad, I didn't see that when I applied for the role.

hazy gull
vital sinew
thorn idol
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Thats fine, its a big section to work on

thorn idol
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@onyx topaz Just a reminder that highways should be build to 4 or 5 wide stone road at this time, please re check the construction requirements. 7 wide in this location is wrong so please remove the excess road on this occasion.

molten jewel
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@thorn idol Requesting the title to help building the federal network

spring chasm
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Hello, I have read the rules and I undestand them, and I would like the title please

molten jewel
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So question regarding tunnels and since most of them are a mess right now;
It says it needs to be 8 high and internal has to be 6 high, but then it also says 3x3 and 12x6? This is really confusing.
Also does it just mean the top layer of the tunnel or does it have to be fully encased?

obsidian plume
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^in addition to that, should the material be t2 or t3? Noticed no payment is set for t3 materials

molten jewel
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Also according to rules the tunnels have to be 8 high, this example is only 7 high. Does this count as a tunnel and has the top layer on 7 has to be removed and put stone on height 8 instead? If I remove the top layer its not considered a tunnel anymore, is it?

silk mantle
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there is a certain level of phases being involved here

molten jewel
silk mantle
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tl;dr early tunnels are small and get expanded later when equipment comes out to dig them, the priority being on getting people connected

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miners just mining everything out but the dirt not withstanding

molten jewel
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I mean I did understand that, yet there had been complaints filed about those roads already and trying to fix them doesnt really help if the instructions there are not clear and not being explained properly. Road width and everything is fine, but when it comes to something like a tunnel in question, I rather have the information I need before its becoming more of a mess

silk mantle
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fair enough

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looking at most of these they just need everything above them shaved off imo

molten jewel
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Yeah cause going after the instructed height none of them actually count as a tunnel - but then they are designed like a tunnel as of right now πŸ˜„

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Its just extremly confusing

thorn idol
thorn idol
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The 8 comes from the road layer if you count everything that's being mined out.

molten jewel
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I see so general height of 6 for the internal got ya

molten jewel
thorn idol
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While we may not do this design this should give you an idea of what we like to do for tunnel lining and hopefully answer the question. πŸ™‚

molten jewel
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Gotcha πŸ˜„

thorn idol
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At the very least we would aim for brick lining due to its slim wall design.

molten jewel
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Ill get on it tomorrow then steamhappy

wicked steeple
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tunnel walls on highway or buffer?

wicked steeple
# hazy gull

with this plan - tunnel walls - first line of highway

thorn idol
mortal wolf
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i will like request to build highway

thorn idol
mortal wolf
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BugsBunny

thorn idol
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Thanks

glad lichen
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i will like request to build highway
xxKintiSekxx

cerulean wadi
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Quick question PM. This area is teh highway between the two federal farm plots I have been looking at. I had to raise them up to the correct height. Because of that, the entire 20 wide is clear. I was wondering if i could use garden gravel in the buffer instead of dirt to give the area a bit more texture. Im not asking for payment. It wouldnt cost me much as theres a local source of garden gravel I can get.

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@thorn idol

thorn idol
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You should be free to place that if you want

cerulean wadi
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Gotcha, thank you.

solar juniper
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I need the HW worker title plz

lucid mural
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cab U request to be a road worker?
SerSark

prime pivot
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I think we need to adress this

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guys, DO NOT BUILD anything BIG over here.. there will be a bridge with long acess ramps. 5 wide stone access road is fine for now

thorn idol
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Thank you, the builder for this section has been contacted.

ivory egret
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I'd like the National Highways Worker title so that I can build some roads near my place!

ivory egret
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I also agree to the rules!