#[WT52] Patient Zero Investigation

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coarse anvil
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Welcome to the White Tiger Health Investigative and Virus Elimination (HIVE) agency. We have an outbreak of a virus infecting the population and we need to act fast. We need to identify the source.

If you wish to join the investigation, please post here. Investigators will be granted a title in game. For every 5 investigators actively involved in the case, more information will be revealed about patient zero. (Limited to one per day).

Please note companies count as a single participant for the purposes of this investigation.

A lead investigator may be selected from this group.

This thread may also contain discussion of the investigation. Once you have identified a suspect by majority agreement from the investigative team, present your findings to me (please ping).

Clue#1: Patient Zero traded with the Z_M Company recently (10-28)
Clue#2: Patient Zero traded with Алекто recently (10-29)

oak jungle
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Ill bite. I have already been trying to figure out who patient zero is already so might as well be official. Sign me up. (Im infected)

scenic sundial
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I wish to join the investigation, i have already gained experience with pandemics and investigations this afternoon and few years ago in a mobile game. I have a large personal interest in curing the infected, because my business partner was infected and i can't lose him 🥺 also i have feelings of guild because our company could infect others now

urban vigil
willow widget
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I'll help!

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:D

oak jungle
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As a soon to be pro investigator of the Z Team, or something idk, I am required to state the pope may not be the best person to help. The current infected links all lead back to him...

willow widget
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Mmm, but the Pope is also a potentially powerful ally with access to considerable resources. With the fate of the server on the line, can you really afford to turn down help such as mine?

scenic sundial
scenic sundial
oak jungle
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He was infected by patient zero.

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I was trying to follow the links from him, weylin, and the other infected person at the time. I origional thought it was binge from Z_M Farm but after attempting to run some tests, i didnt get infected. That was, however, back when the (law) was broken so they still might be PZ. At the time Weylin bought a large amount of goods from Z_M Farm along with Binge from that company buying papers from the Pope who was infected shortly after.

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So.... Binge might be it but more data is needed.

coarse anvil
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One other note I’ll throw in here because it’s not super fair - I changed the 500 to 300 over night to jump start infections since it was a bit broken on transmission -> it is now back to 500. But there is an approximate 8 hour window where 300+ could spread

hazy island
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I'll help too

coarse anvil
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Other than that -> I’m not directly assisting the investigation but if you have questions - please still bring them forward

hazy island
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Is it correct to assume that the infection works as follows?
If you buy/sell to/from an infected the other one gets infected too (with tracking based on the currency ammount)

oak jungle
oak jungle
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infected or PZ

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PZ can never get infected (title), but can infect others like the infected title

hazy island
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so the goal here is to find who infects, but isn't included in the title

oak jungle
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Goal here is to find PZ. Once we find them, we can make a cure with other stuff

willow widget
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then slandering the good name of the pope should not be tolerated

oak jungle
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This might help

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willow widget
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you dont know the symptoms of the disease, you havent had it as long as i have!

oak jungle
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How many people here are investigators?

coarse anvil
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(Clues will be based on my availability when conditions are met. Titles will be assigned when I get home)

oak jungle
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Ah, i guess a more important potential clue. The only way pope could have been infected was from a Farmer Only store. PZ might be a farmer/gatherer

coarse anvil
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Unsure if dinq’s eye is a private eye or not, but I count 4 confirmed

willow widget
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valfreya can see the popes true intentions

oak jungle
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Mhm having the MoE, Unica Mayor, and House Rep infected is spreading the infection far to fast. That vaccine might need to get made asap

scenic sundial
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I traded with a lot of farmers and i am not infected

oak jungle
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@willow widget Would you want to explain?

willow widget
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i honestly have no idea

oak jungle
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You need to trade above 500 euros in a single transaction to spread the virus btw

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well unless it was in that time val lowered it to 300

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Pope man said he was infected from a trade made at a store he was connected to when things bugged out. The store was a farmer only one so farmers were the only one that could trade from it. Unless this was all a mistake tho.

willow widget
scenic sundial
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if it really is a farmer, we could exclude all the infected farmer and the farmer, where i bought large amounts of crops

oak jungle
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Well thats where my train of thought lead to Z_M Farm, more specificly Binge whos a member of that company.

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Cant confirm its them cause the test i ran with them was when the law was broken so wouldnt have infected if they were PZ anyways.

scenic sundial
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I will continue the investigation with a interrogation of NoEyeDeer

willow widget
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i dont know how scientific an interrogation is...

oak jungle
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I already talked to them a few days ago

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So i wouldnt dive on them right away. Lets see if we can get some clues from above first?

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We need to get more people involved in the investigation

willow widget
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you need the two greatest words in the english language; forensic accounting

oak jungle
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Sadly eco only allows 1 page

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Or else they might have been broken out from day 2 .-.

hazy island
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you can use tax card to see it per day when someone was infected

oak jungle
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Yea its only the day tho

hazy island
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but looking at the infection. Wouldn't company's not generated infections? I don't see how a company can get infected so using company stores shouldn't generate a new infection

oak jungle
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Doesnt help other then tell is when to look

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Companys can get infected. They are the ones that "own" the store

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So anyone whos infected selling to a company owned store can infect it. Theres a few legal persons infected already

hazy island
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yes forgot about selling to the store

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looking at the infections I think it looks like 3 people where infected on day 2. Should be doable to track those down

oak jungle
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Yes, The Pope, Weylin, and Katius (engineering person)

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From there, with the help of the pope, we think it may be Binge but cant confirm it.

scenic sundial
hazy island
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it does fit

oak jungle
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See i was on the right track

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@worn valley mind making a "ant farm" connection with Z_M Farm on it? 😄

worn valley
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I wasnt the ant farm guy 😄

oak jungle
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Oh dang thought it was you. my bad

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was it teal?

worn valley
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I was the conspiracy board guy. Maybe Teal was the ant one

oak jungle
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the board works too 😄

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Our graphics guy

willow widget
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y'know, i think we're looking at this wrong

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we don't actually even understand the infection, so how can we truly determine a "cure"? we're trying to trace things when we're not 100% certain how the transmission has occured, and we don't know what the infection actually is

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people are throwing around terms like zombies and disease, when no one has shown any categoric symptoms of suffering or loss of control

leaden sluice
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Besides the hour long amnesia

willow widget
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that was the whole server, and this isnt the first time thats happened

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long time players can recall bouts of amnesia lasting for almost a full day, and there were no reports of infection then?

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while i understand the alarm at something like an "infection" spreading without our control, i think we need to observe and monitor more people than just myself and other early citizens to understand what is actually going on

oak jungle
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coughs up clay Idk pope. I dont remember having clay inside me but that could just be the mines

willow widget
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its worth a thought, and i present the idea to the investigation committee at large for consideration

foggy rose
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Oh I want to investigate too!

So Kathius and His Holiness were the first known infected.

willow widget
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i know time is not our ally, all of us having lived through the covid-19 outbreak, but as eco players we are also all used to having to work with a crisis on a clock

foggy rose
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You Holiness, do you remember someone coughing in your face a few day ago?

willow widget
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no, i do not recall that lol

foggy rose
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Do you wash your hands between blessings?

willow widget
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yes, il papa is a fan of ribs so he keeps wet naps on person at all times

foggy rose
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Do you drink water or only holy wine?

willow widget
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neither, i drink holy beer

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i also favor holy whisky

foggy rose
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I am also infected and I don't remember having "close relation" to anyone. So, how the hell does this spread?

oak jungle
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So panda

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The pope infected you

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He traded at the Mayor owned Unica store

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The trade was for 500+ euros which is what triggers the spread

foggy rose
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That why you need to launder your money!

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But can anyone infect anyone or only patient zero has that "ability"?

oak jungle
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Anyone thats infected or is PZ can infect

willow widget
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the pope denies voluntary infection and claims madness

foggy rose
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Can one of the first 2 infected be PZ?

oak jungle
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No

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PZ can never have the infected title from the looks of it

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Idk if looking at the law ruins the sprite if this so im sorry :/

foggy rose
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So who would buy lots of stuff from Kathius and the Pope? 🤔

willow widget
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this is part of why i would say we dont quite know the entire behavior of the infection

scenic sundial
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I continued the investigation. I met Kathius at a party in Smallville and did a quick questioning in private.

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I got interesting new hints for the investigation

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hints, i got NAMES! Names are what we are looking for right investigators? 😄

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At one side there was a third infected person, when Kathius was infected, this was Weylin! We should continue the investigation with him.

willow widget
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yes, i know weylin was after me

scenic sundial
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Also Benny traded a large amount of Plant Fibers with Kathius

willow widget
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i did not know about Benny

scenic sundial
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Plant Fiber trades, very suspicous.

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We should research Bennys Job, maybe he is a Farmer

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Oh i really feel, how we get closer to solve this puzzle

scenic sundial
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I researched Bennys Job. He is a Gatherer and Tailor and was able to buy at the farmer store, where the pope was infected and Benny is also not infected yet.

oak jungle
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We have to get someone whos willing to be infected and buy 500 euros of goods from his store in one transaction

scenic sundial
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He has delicious Jungle Fruits for Sale, but i am afraid

oak jungle
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If you get infected, then we know he/she is PZ and we can get a cure out sooner then waiting

scenic sundial
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good arguments

oak jungle
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Your sacrifice will be written in the books for ages

scenic sundial
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better we dont waste more time, if we are on the wrong path. I will do this risky heroic act!

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I did it!

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I bought at Bennys Store for more than 500 € and right now, we both are still not infected

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i wonder if there is a incubation period

oak jungle
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There "is". I checked. You dont have it.

scenic sundial
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and also Benny dont have it .... so we need to continue

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so we can exclude me and Benny as patient zero.

quiet solar
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Who else apart from lee was day 1 infected? Weylin?

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These was total of 3

oak jungle
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So i wonder something mia. Your legal person is infected. I wonder if that counts if you use the account owned by them.

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Kathius @quiet solar

scenic sundial
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And Kathius told me about Weylin

sudden jay
scenic sundial
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Our Legal Person was infected when Pope went to our Dinner Party and bought 83 Fern Salads after.

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At least i think it happened like that 😳

coarse anvil
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I would like to welcome Kyokes, Pope White Tiger I, Mysterymia, PandaDono, and Frostylazer as members of the HIVE Investigative team. Furthermore, I would like to appoint @scenic sundial as Lead Investigator for exceptional work.

Thanks to your investigative work, I have been able to identify samples from the named parties and analyzed their results. The results do indicate an older strain than what we are currently seeing circulate so quickly, but strangely the samples that came from the Z_M Company include both new and older strains which suggest that Patient Zero may have had an interaction with this company recently. Perhaps a more thorough investigation of this company and its customers is warranted.

While the work to identify patient zero is important, it may be more important to stop or slow the speed of infection. Keep investigating while I work on establishing a rapid response team to develop a vaccine!

oak jungle
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@willow widget could u share the pictures you shared with me of that bank account? They would be noted as evidence. There might be someone in it we are missing.

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Ah nvm, i found the image. Really only shows binge in the transactions

willow widget
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thats the only relevant data

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i would advise a meeting with the prime minister himself, so that we can present our facts and any theories we may have

ionic narwhal
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Not sure if this investigation is free to join but I sav something suspisious that should maybe be looked at, there is big transaction with Valhalla iron works but neither the legal person or either of the company members are infected
Tho I'm not sure how long is the mentioned incubation period

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oak jungle
ionic narwhal
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It has been about 15minutes now and they don't seem to be infected

oak jungle
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ok thats a good point

willow widget
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the infection total has gone from about 10 earlier today to 50

oak jungle
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that person should have been infected from tha trade with the legal person who is infected

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they werent

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they are also a gatherer

scenic sundial
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Thank you for this recognition. I am so happy, that my passionate hard work got honored with this noble promotion to Investigation Leader! I will not be your boss, but i will be your leader! @hazy island Would you please cook some coffee for your teammates, this will be a long night for you all! Kyokes great work, you were on right track, brilliant mastermind! I want you to secure all the evidence data around the ZM company trades. Pope White Tiger I, organize the meeting with the Prime Minister! Dont forget to raise awareness of the faster spreading. We need to hurry and spread the warning faster than the infection spread! PandaDono also welcome to the team! I got a new hint from Kathius, you need to discuss, he remembered about a Upgrade-Sale with Weylin. After the exiting new research results i need to travel for a top secret business appointment. I will be back in around 9 hours!

oak jungle
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I think Nuura might have a potential PZ. Rocksteady has made a trade with Valhalla Ironworks, which is infected. Rocksteady doesnt have the infected title however. They should have been infected from that trade. I wonder if they also had some trade with Z_M Farms and the other original infected in some way.

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or hmm

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@coarse anvil just to confirm, the law does also work on sales more then 1k right?

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i know eco laws can be really weird

coarse anvil
willow widget
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@leaden sluice Mr. Prime Minister, you're already in the the thread, but, allow me, the Bishop of Unica, the Servant of Trial and Error, His Most Holy Eminence, the Pope of The Federation of the White Tiger, Pantera Tigris Alba I to welcome you to this meeting of HIVE. We need to discuss the evolving situation in the federation with what we know only as the "Infection".

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Mr. Prime Minister, you have the floor.

leaden sluice
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Understandable and I appreciate the massive step forward in the right direction putting our best minds on this investigation. I too am sadly infected and unaware on the dangers ahead. Please tell me your good news!

willow widget
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Lead Investigator mysterymia will start us off.

scenic sundial
oak jungle
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Yes which is also why im a bit confused why they arnt infected from trading with Valhalla because their location doesnt fully make since for early trade infection. Correction, there was an issue yesterday with the law so its likely the infection just didnt trigger the law itself.

leaden sluice
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What do we know so far on the mechanism for the disease to spread? I want to come at this knowing the foundational information and work our way up

willow widget
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Does anyone wish to speak, or present their findings?

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I understand, we're still in the discovery and experimental phase, but we do have leads and theories to offer.

dull cave
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i would like to join the investigation. I noticed the infected very early on when only 2people were infected, the pope and kathius as was already established. when i logged a few min ago i was not infected, i went to unica to sell my store to the MOE the did theses trades . I became infected after

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i dont know wich of theses transaction are in play

oak jungle
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The MoE is currently infected. Any trades mad at the Uni runs the risk of being infected.

dull cave
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seems to comfirm the 500 Euro threshold

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i was infected after

willow widget
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Thank you, Nap. The more evidence reported by brave citizens, the more we can understand what is going on.

dull cave
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i checked my status after selling to the moe

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right after

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so could be a tick issue

oak jungle
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From my limited testing prior to this taskforce being formed, I have noticed that the infection seems to spread through trading a massive amount of euros in a single transaction. The one buying or selling can be infected and it will still spread.

dull cave
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so then when can't know between the popo and Kathius who was first based on transaction history

leaden sluice
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Has anyone experienced any degradation in tool efficiency or otherwise yet as a result of being infected? Having our citizens in pain would be a disaster result from such an epidemic

oak jungle
dull cave
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weylin was infected after

willow widget
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I can solemnly attest by the World Tree that I do not know between myself and Kathius who was infected first. When I noticed, both myself and Kathius were infected.

hazy island
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Just to be safe the government should implement social distancing measures and limit the infection risk with handling big amounts of money on one go (aka no trades above 500)

oak jungle
leaden sluice
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that would be terrifying - and I'm unsure we can really close the schools off of skill scrolls above 500

oak jungle
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I think closing down or somehow limiting any government functions that can spread it may help tho. the MoE and Land Claim shops are super spreaders.

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Maybe getting in someone whos not infected to act as a stand in for the shop owner can slow it down?

willow widget
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If I may, Mr. Prime Minister? (I know Kathius is attempting to type something)

dull cave
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i say we put a warning in place

hearty dock
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Maybe I can join the discussion and give some thoughts. If we think that only high value trades matter: the earliest high value trade I can remember was buying 5 unica claim papers. Other high value trades from my side should only have been via Basic Upgrade sales.

willow widget
sudden jay
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As a concerned citizen, I have just one question Mr. Prime Minister. What are we doing to stop people from deliberately spreading the infection?

willow widget
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Capsup, I may address your concerns with my own theories.

leaden sluice
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I would say to anyone looking to avoid gaining it to immediately close up shop and only trade with uninfected individuals - based on our information so far

willow widget
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Mr. Prime Minister, if I may.

hazy island
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I understand limiting all transactions is a step not everyone wants to take (yet). As it looks like the lcp selling seems to be a big spreader at least look into a contactless sale process there to limit the infections at least

foggy rose
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Oh. Does the transaction happened for the brief moment His Holiness was also Governor-Mayor?

oak jungle
hazy island
willow widget
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If I may have EVERYONE'S attention.

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I think there is a very important fact that everyone is ignoring

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We don't actually know what the infection does.

sudden jay
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Is the Pope implying it may be beneficial in any way? 😱

willow widget
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It could, it might not be. It might be benign.

dull cave
sudden jay
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I say we don't find out and begin countermeasure immediately.

willow widget
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You have thousands of bacteria infecting your body every day.

hazy island
dull cave
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fear not we have the temple of healing

sudden jay
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The Hygge Group has already closed our shop until we know more, to safeguard our employees. The goods we have in store are otherwise in huge demand with the recent invention of Smelting, but we won't compromise our safety.

dull cave
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can we use the temple as a 2nd location to sell paper to, so ppl do not have to travel, there is already a store there

willow widget
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I would hate for this to become a reason for discrimination of any kind, because infected or not, we are all still citizens of the Federation.

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We must care for each other and love one another, and we must assume that any actions taken were with the greater good in mind, as is the tradition of White Tiger.

dull cave
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by looking at your transaction history, im confident you are the one infecting the whole govt,

willow widget
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A fair thing to say.

dull cave
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foxville mayor infected

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willow widget
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But do you accuse me of malfeasance?

dull cave
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moe infected

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governor of unica infected

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pm infected

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willow widget
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I ask against, do you accuse me of malfeasance?

dull cave
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of course not

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i accuse you OF BEING PATIENT 0

willow widget
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Then consider that my actions, as I have said, must be for the greater good somehow.

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I do not claim to know the true nature of the infection myself, but I do know this; a rush to judgement or accusation about a person's actions will only obscure the truth, and leave you with a rushed ending and further questions unanswered.

leaden sluice
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We have our HIVE Vaccine Research store buying the basic papers and some wood signs in Unica - please help our cause and find a cure by deliverying these key ingredients!

willow widget
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Regardless, I am on the side of the people of White Tiger; ALL of them, infected or otherwise. I will support research efforts, but I will not support harsh measures against infected people as they have done nothing wrong, nor have they shown any signs of suffering.

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I would urge all of you to do the same.

sudden jay
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I'd like to point out that I have already been contacted by infected people trying to convince me to trade with them for extra hazard pay. Do we really not worry what people might have to do?

willow widget
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If anyone else has a working theory as to the true nature of this infection that they can back up with logic or evidence, I'd like to hear it.

willow widget
leaden sluice
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Likewise - finding Patient Zero and narrowing down all victims is key to identifying the source

willow widget
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I would also avoid using terms like "victims", "disease", "zombies", and other negative words until we know FOR CERTAIN that this infection is anything beyond the in game term that was chosen initially by a GM.

dull cave
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is there a way to see the full transaction history, i seem to be limited a few days only

willow widget
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(we could, but only a GM can and they can also see patient zero and that's cheating lol)

coarse anvil
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(even then it's not accurate)

dull cave
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wait there is a way, you cna set a specific trade chat and see all your transaction

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i can't for someone else

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but you can

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we can pinpoint the exact transaction between you and kathius

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if you check for a 500 euro transaction a few days ago

willow widget
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I would encourage a policy of treating the infected as equal citizens still, as if this is a malus to their well being it is all the more important we show love and empathy, not scorn and rancor. Understanding from knowledge is the White Tiger way.

dull cave
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i noticed something, you paid me yesterday for a contract above 500, that means contract do not infect other people as i was not infected

willow widget
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Well, as this turned into half public trial for the Pope, do we have anything further we'd like to add before we adjourn this official meeting with the Prime Minister and return to normal research? Mia? Kyokes?

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No, from what I have observed, contracts and direct transfers do trigger the infection.

oak jungle
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I can confirm the only mode of transfer is via trading at a store. (law says trade for buyer/seller)

hazy island
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that is why I suggested going contactless (transaction outside of stores) for high value trades (like lcp's)

willow widget
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that makes it harder to track, and avoids taxes

dull cave
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i know who patient 0 is, its neither the pope or Kathius, its Valfreya: think about it, she infect people, then sell them the cure

willow widget
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it also grinds to a halt with say, mechanics because you walk up, buy a truck or genny on the "honors" system then direct transfer the money? that dont work

hazy island
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Not honors system, but a law that taxes you x ammount for certain goods

willow widget
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how do you ensure the transfer happens for the papers, though?

coarse anvil
hazy island
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when buy lcp tax 100 from buyer. You can then sell the lcps for 1 in the store

willow widget
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and then how do you automate the university

dull cave
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backfired on you it seems

hazy island
willow widget
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again, i insist we do not use a negative term

oak jungle
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That law just gets around the game...

willow widget
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you need to keep an open mindset for a proper investigation

coarse anvil
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I'm working on slowing the infection. This team needs to be focused on finding patient zero

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hazy island
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it contains the infections. Not resolve it fully (like buying selling 500 worth of crops)

hearty dock
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(or buying a powered cart from me from tomorrow on)

willow widget
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and what if we discover we're slowing down the spread and mutation of something beneficial? that would VERY halloween themed that this is actually an episode of the twilight zone

dull cave
coarse anvil
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I'm not going to confirm or deny any patient zero suspects unless properly presented with evidence and sound reasoning

dull cave
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just to clarify you do not deny infecting someone random on purpose?

coarse anvil
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Welcome new investigators: Capsup, Kathius, Nap, Nuura, and Stan.

From your latest reports and an analysis of the overall population. I have an interesting sample case coming from an individual living on the outskirts of Unica city - Алекто. There's some unknown elements in this sample, @scenic sundial can you lead the team to thoroughly investigate who this individual has come into recent contact with. I'm fairly sure this will help lead us to Patient Zero.

scenic sundial
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Also welcome dear new Investigators! I am Mysterymia, your HIVE-Leader. I am happy to see new faces today in our team. We need all the brains we can get, to solve this puzzle!. Unfortunately, the pursuit of our last lead came to nothing. All the Evidence Data around the ZM Company were completely cleared!
I am very pleased that the research has made progress and given us a new clue to investigate.

willow widget
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so we can 100% clear binge of being patient zero?

scenic sundial
willow widget
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as in, theyre infected/valfreya has confirmed it?

oak jungle
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They are infected

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The entire company of Z_M Farm is infected

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Minus one person who joined fairly late so we can assume they cant be PZ

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and they havnt been on for a few days as well.

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Nuura, the person you pointed out last night is now infected

willow widget
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well, there goes my best lead

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unless

ionic narwhal
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Hmmh I saw Val mention Алекто and went to scroll their transactions to see if I could find anything suspicious about people they have traded with recently that would not be infected and I ended up seeing trades with Radicals, and tho there is not +500e trades to check they do have title "Naughty Boy" from paying too little in the work party
Could our virus have started from peoples who underpaid 🤔
One of another active person with the title is Recskabajnok who is also farmer
Any of the Naughty peoples are not infected at least

willow widget
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work with me here

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we know the infection wasn't behaving the same early on

oak jungle
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Naughty boi is a title related to weylin and him tracking those "breaking" min wage rules os im not sure if it would relate here

willow widget
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AND there was a problem with government accounts

oak jungle
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Tho i dont have leads myself so im fine with going in an direction if someone has something

willow widget
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so... does the source of the infection actually go to one of the admin accounts, because for me to get infected that early, it has to link back to the screenshot you have kyokes

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is white tiger itself the source of the infection?

oak jungle
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As a joke, i assumed it would be that but it doesnt fit with the current information val provided. The person today and Z_M Farm dont connect to that at all

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Unless you can dig up some connection

willow widget
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i would have to know more about how the world is made...(out of character, the server set up)

oak jungle
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You have a prior GM here who generally knows how setups go 😛

quiet solar
willow widget
oak jungle
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After the first day, nothing should generally have an admin account tied to it

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I think its safe to say it has to be a living player and not a "fake" player account 😐

willow widget
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does the state of unica have any special players tied to it?

oak jungle
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Not that i can remember

quiet solar
oak jungle
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Theres White Tiger, Federal University, (Federal Bank), and maybe one more but they are all at the federal level. Unica waits to get a mayor elected.

oak jungle
willow widget
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im curious what account the unica store defaults to, because my best guess for ground zero is the unica land claim office as that appears to be where myself, kathius, and weylin were all infected

quiet solar
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Are we under the assumption pz infected the og trio day 1 right?

willow widget
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weylin was day 2

oak jungle
willow widget
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so it is possible weylin was infected through transactions out in the wild; has anyone talked to weylin?

oak jungle
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Sure you. If theres no mayor it should just turn off.

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As theres no title holder

willow widget
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that screen shot is also useful as it establishes the most likely time window for my own infection

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it is incredibly likely it occured during my brief time as Unica Governor (or soon there after) as I recall accidently stumbling into the demographics while typing "uni"

ionic narwhal
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Patient zero had contact with them recently so I just post their transactions here if needed in the investigation later on as well before the info disappears because of never transactions

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oak jungle
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I wonder if the gms would allow us to run a forensic financial report on the Unica bank account

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That zero logging shop looks familiar

quiet solar
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So perhaps pz buys unica claim stake/paper and passes it to you. Thats pointing at farmers / gatherers

oak jungle
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I think i saw it when i was looking at weylins transactions early on

scenic sundial
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According to the information available to us, several virus strains were identified at ZM Farm, including an early, isolated strain. This means it's possible that a business partner of ZM is patient zero. If we have now lost all data, the only remaining option is to interview the business partners again about their recollections and regular business contacts. Furthermore, Anekto should also be questioned, as his sample also showed abnormalities. The results of the interviews should be shared with the other investigators. This might allow us to establish a connection between these two businessmen. Are there any volunteers willing to conduct these interviews and then share them with us via screenshot? Before starting the interview, please ensure that the witness understands the importance of their recollections for disease control and agrees to the recording of the interview. The last thing we need right now is a data breach.

ionic narwhal
oak jungle
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Correct. Their current transactions are fairly low so they should just be under the threashold to be infected.

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I think someone should keep an eye on their transactions to see if anything looks out of place

ionic narwhal
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Also I at least tried to go through every person Алекто has traded that are currently visible in the log and these are the only peoples I could see that do not have infected title that have recently had transaction with them
Nosfos (rent)
Radicals
Zerodasher
Bedsheets
Saratonin

scenic sundial
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You proved good data Analysis skills in the Anekto Case yet @ionic narwhal I would like to offer you a promotion to Field Investigator. Do you have the confidence to visit Anekto for a witness testimony? We need to dig deeper, maybe you can find a clue in his Memorys?

ionic narwhal
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I thank you from the offer but I do feel like my skills shine more on analyzing data than taking testimonies
So I would prefer to continue my paperwork for now

willow widget
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i also dont know how the funding is being handled or our current facilities are situated (forgive me, im not re-reading this entire thread), but as MoC this is also a fine opportunity to offer to pay for initial testing labs and facilities that the team and mia deem necessary

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each ministry had an obligation to the federation, first and foremost, but i also believe that this is a great opportunity for learning and cultural advancement from our collective efforts

ionic narwhal
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We have big transaction between Radicals and Weylin so maybe after few minutes we can see if they get infected or not

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10 minutes later ( if the incubation time was 5min) they don't seem to be infected

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scenic sundial
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but Weylin is Infected, so is he really Patient Zero?

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We need to check

oak jungle
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Yes but i have a hunch there might be an issue with the law. If its working as val intendeds, they could be PZ but last night someone did a trade over 1k euros and wasnt infected but today, they were infected.

ionic narwhal
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Yeah but also assuming that the law works is almost one of the only ways to try to figure more stuff out
If we need to assume it does not work.. Then I'm not sure what we can investigate

oak jungle
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Im just letting you know that the person you suggested last night also didnt get infected form a 1k+ trade but they did off something else when i checked this morning :/

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I would say keep a watch on them and see if any trades are done between 500 and 1k

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That should follow all the other working tests we notice on how it spreads

scenic sundial
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I contacted NoEyeDeer from ZM again, to ask him questions to ZMs business contacts.

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He told me, that they most commonly trade bigger amounts with the federal government. The only Name from Nuuras Analysis they ever traded with is Nosfos

dull cave
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So i was thinking we should go to the graveyard and have a BRAIN party

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that would help the investigation

scenic sundial
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Is there someone uninfected, who can imagine to buy for 500€ at their store? @willow widget Can we request Funds for approvals like this?

willow widget
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mmm, i dont know about the legalities of creating a test fund, but we could try this

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i have 3 builder accounts set up specifically for independent use outside of contract use; i can place 1000 euros in them, and we can set them to a store that we create at a test site

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the lead investigator or another person of their choosing can then be added as an account manager onto these accounts in order to help shuffle people onto the account for testing purposes, but we play a dangerous game

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every time we guess wrong, we spread the infection further

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i understand time is getting critical as now the infection is showing adverse side effects, but we're walking a fine line with a gambit like this

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fyi, anyone can set up accounts for this "shell game test" like i have proposed, but gov accounts wont count on the income stat (i think) and arent taxed

willow widget
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how goes the trials

timid gulch
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i suspect valhalla too cause at the beging, infection spreed slowly

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patient 0 can be a mining guys ?

ionic narwhal
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Update to my yesterdays findings

Nosfos

  • Not infected, no visible +500

Radicals

  • Not infected, 600e trade with Valhalla Ironworks

Zerodasher
- Not ifnected, no visible +500e

  • Now infected

Bedsheets

  • Not infected, no visible +500

Saratonin

  • Infected
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ionic narwhal
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I'm not sure if we can request a sample being taken from Radicals if the team agrees unanimously them currently being the most likely PZ

So far:

  • They match our Clue#2: Patient Zero traded with Алекто recently (10-29)
  • They have made at least 2 +500e trades with Valhalla Ironworks without being infected (1400e and 600e)

Edit: It was ~1400e not 1600, I remembered wrong

scenic sundial
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@ionic narwhal, good work! Can you provide evidence screenshot from the 2 Trades? I will call the team for a meeting soon.

ionic narwhal
willow widget
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i have been able to keep up with the forensic work only so much due to my other duties, so if the team consensus is that's our strongest lead then ill support it

scenic sundial
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Dear fellow Investigators,

this is HIVE Lead Inspector Mia with important News for all the Investigators!
Our Anaylist @Nuura did good work studying our last clue, she observed the contacts of Anekto - whose sample showed special markers - and found us a top suspect for being Patient Zero.

The Name of the Suspect is Radicals.

Investigator Nuura was able to observe, that the potential patient zero had close contact to a infected store TWICE without infect themselve! He seems to be immune against the Infection.

Radicals did two trades with the infected Valhalla Ironworks.

In 4d23h Weylin went to his Store to buy Boards and Wooden Hull Planks worth 1.403,20 €. After our research, Weylin was one of the first Infected in the course of the Infection. After Report of the early infected Kathius, Weylin and Pope White Tiger I were the first 3 infected person, so he is already infected for several days.

In 5d4h he bought 4 AU1 at Valhalla Ironworks Legal Person Store worth 600 €, who is also infected.

Evidence: 2x Transaction Screenshots of Radicals Personal Account

Despite regular contact with infected people Radicals didn't infect himself during the contact with the Valhalla Ironworks or Weylin.

Evidence: current ingame Screenshot of Radicals Tags.

For legal reasons, we require an agreement from at least six investigators to take a sample. I ask you to review the presented facts as soon as possible and give your consent that the available evidence warrants taking a sample from Radicals to verify whether our suspect is indeed patient zero.

Infection already spreaded to 67% of Active. We have no more time to lose. Please tell us your Voting!

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@timid gulch @dull cave @oak jungle

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@quiet solar @hearty dock @hazy island

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@willow widget @ionic narwhal @coarse anvil

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@sudden jay

oak jungle
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Sure

ionic narwhal
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I'm in favor of taking the sample

quiet solar
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You have my support

willow widget
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he mustve infected me via the land claim office that was working correctly...it's foggy but i think he was in the early transaction log

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that was why we missed him... its enough to raise my suspicions and warrant a deeper investigation

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we don't know when transmission via government accounts was viable and not viable, so we can't rely on anything pre-explosion of the infection; we have to operate on what we see here, which is strong, verifiable data that radicals is immune to infection, and thus, Patient Zero

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so i support this action

timid gulch
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I buy many housing stuff to radical yes, but i don’t think he infect me, what information u need ?

hazy island
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I agree with taking samples

dull cave
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i have my doubts, i feel like we would need to see how Kathius and the pope are linked to Radical to make a better jugment, but im unable to go that far. I think this is the best lead we have at this point. so i vote yes

sudden jay
timid gulch
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Now yes

sudden jay
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Have you ever had big transactions with Radicals before you got infected, above 500?

timid gulch
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Ho yes

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80% sure

sudden jay
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Do you have a screenshot you can show from before you were infected of such a transaction?

timid gulch
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Yes, i send u when i back to m'y home irl

sudden jay
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No problem. What ended up getting you infected if not your furniture transactions with Radicals?

ionic narwhal
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Also one of our other options from the names we got from contacts with Алекто is Zerodasher and they are now infected as well

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sudden jay
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I will wait until Fabrito sends the evidence to prove he made a direct transaction with Radicals and didn't get infected. If he hasn't by tonight, then I say we go ahead and take the sample from Radicals.

I assume this risks Radicals, or someone else, getting infected in case we are wrong?

ionic narwhal
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I don't think Valfreya analysing a sample for us causes a risk of infection

sudden jay
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Okay, then I see zero reason to ever say no.

scenic sundial
timid gulch
sudden jay
timid gulch
ionic narwhal
sudden jay
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The only way would be to create a new chat channel with only your trades and scroll back. That one carries more than 24 hours of history of trades.

timid gulch
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so i can't prove i buy more than 500 without being affecterd

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sorry

sudden jay
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No worries. That's why we're here to investigate!

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We don't have perfect data unfortunately.

timid gulch
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and if i buy 500 € in severals trades

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like 230€ and 30 min after 350 €

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its count ?

sudden jay
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It must be with a single transaction.

timid gulch
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ok :/ so i don't think cause i was to eavy to buy 500€ furniture in one time

sudden jay
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I definitely think we should check out Radicals then! The evidence presented seems pretty strong.

timid gulch
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All trade i made is why m'y company account so its count for me ?

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With*

ionic narwhal
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How I have understood it:
If you buy from someone infected no matter if you use company account or not you get infected
When someone would buy from your companys store I think the company legal person would get infected
Someone correct me if I'm wrong in this

oak jungle
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Company legal person does give infected if they are the owner of the store

ionic narwhal
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@scenic sundial I think we do have 7, even 8 votes for taking the sample if you also are supporting the sample
Kyokes, Nuura, Stan, Pope, Frosty, Nap, Capsup

hearty dock
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sounds like a logical conclusion to me, so I would be for it as well

scenic sundial
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I support the sample

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@coarse anvil Investigator voting was sucessfull. 8 Investigators support the suspicion. Please carry out the Sampling.🙂

coarse anvil
# scenic sundial Dear fellow Investigators, this is HIVE Lead Inspector Mia with important News...

HIVE has accepted your report and has examined your findings. The sample has been drawn and analyzed - showing the same markers present in the disease with no symptomatic presence or outward signs. I concur with your remarks that this individual is immune but still a carrier of the disease. This sample will be essential to the development of a cure!

I am away on a conference and won’t be back for some hours yet. Please continue vaccinations as quickly and efficiently as possible. Outreach may be necessary.

Exceptional work on your investigation and research! We still have much work ahead of us!

You have found patient zero - Radicals

willow widget
scenic sundial
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Congratulations Team 🙂 👍

sudden jay
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HUGE shoutout to @scenic sundial as the lead investigator and other investigator's clues. Exceptional work! You got us there. 😄

timid gulch
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GG

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good job, sorry to not help more i have a too bad english ?

willow widget
shadow stream
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Everybody is welcome to buy wood at my new "WT52 Pandemic Heritage Site" Store

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In hindsight I should have not prepared that "Charred Monkey" Dish. But well that is what you get if there is no food on the server on day one.

foggy rose
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Well done people! Now let's dissect Radicals!

dull cave
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feels a bit radical

willow widget
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the MoC is proud to announce that we have constructed the first vaccination clinic in Smallville!

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dull cave
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we need the shop to be fixed, can't sell the granite signs

coarse anvil
dull cave
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wow i can't spell 😄

waxen charm