#Food requirements for t3 skills

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burnt osprey
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Hello, until a major food rebalance of advanced foods happens, I advocate that the subtotal requirements for the high end skill is reduced to 48 (from 50).

At least half of the advanced foods are 46-47 score, and for those above 50, there is a significant difference in cost per 1k cal so only 1 food is viable choice for labouring large orders. It feels awful having to chose between playing your profession or enjoying a balanced diet (which also affects any of your previous skills). Additionally limited supply of this cheap food (Kelpy rolls) creates significant disadvantage to those with less play time who cannot get their hands on the food and have to result to 6x-8x more expensive foods to play the game.

Such change will allow more foods to be incorporated into a balanced diet, without having to constantly looks which which wild mix will tip you under the 50.0 subtotal. It will also allow smoother transition between cooking / baking foods and advanced foods by having choice to use the occasional cooking / baking food.

It was also noted that some cooks / bakers who did not go into advanced foods quick enough experience little to no demand for their skill. This can further aid player retention.

umbral needle
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I highly agree with this, and i think it should even be reduced to 46. There just is not enough supply available in the world if we can only eat the 50+ food once all the skills unlock

tardy anchor
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i find this cycle to be a weird one to base things on but food at the end of the cycle can easily go south any time. 50 food is limited in choice indeed no matter what. quite a few people don't care about balance at that point but some might.
seeing we're again in the easy multi star end with the dinner parties, food balance is looked at more by players.

burnt osprey
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to clarify above isnt based solely on this run, it has been 3 runs in a row now (for me) where late game foods are volatile, too volatile in cost and supply. Also really good point for dinner parties - their effectiveness for personal gain is tied to balance of the diet.

torpid garden
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I think from this we should make the maximum stars any person can allocate be 5

As well reduce the subtotal to 45.

Are there any Advanced Cooking / Advanced Baking foods that don't meet that requirement?

tardy anchor
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i'm for a max amount of stars on what's supposed to be a very high collab server.

torpid garden
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transparency I've opened a thread and will look at getting this updated for next cycle

thorn gorge
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i dont mind the idea of a max number of stars, but we should still give you a reason to care about your housing score/food subtotal past a certain point, especially at it pertains to housing numbers that require t5 materials

torpid garden
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For food balancing we can reduce the total here from 50 -> 46 or so but generally some foods are wildly disproportionate to others. 60 Euro Stuffed Turkeys to 4 Euro Sushi

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Elk Tacos having 5 more subtotal than Wild Mix despite being made with two of them kind of deal

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Feedback

Does the general community have ideas or recipe changes for these sorts of things?

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I'm pretty lost in the sauce looking at it and unsure exactly where to look to balance

tardy anchor
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those are shop prices though. can't really look at that as some prices are just crazy depending the cycle and people.
there are some recipes that don't make sense but i didn't remember them. it's been since the christmas cycle i've done cooking.

viscid geode
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I agree with the reduction
Is it specific to this cycle that kelp rolls are practically free ? Such low cost food should have a severe drawback to balance it, like being 95% carbs or something but even so, none of the 48+ food should be less than 15€, otherwise there is no reason to keep playing lower cooking jobs.

torpid garden
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While balancing every food so everything is 50 subtotal besides boiled foods

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Using market analysis of the current cycle and removing all profits and balancing it proportional to the ingredients used in the dishes for all of Advaned Baking and Advanced Cooking

viscid geode
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Does that mean that the ingredients for this recipe (hosomaki as well) are being sold at prices 10x lower than those of other dishes' ingredients ? Are they too easy to acquire maybe?

torpid garden
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Boiled Rice updated for 2 oil and 2 sugar

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Onto of the existing 10 rice

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It's simply that the way to craft was way too easy and each made two

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While giving the massive subtotal and tons of calories

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So they have all been leveled out

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With reduction in hosomaki from 8 to 2 camas paste and 8 to 2 fiddleheads

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To get an output of 1, as mentioned earlier all advanced food has been balanced so generally the thread here isn't necessarily applicable anymore

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Since its with what is current and not what is future

astral kayak
viscid geode
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Great !