What do you guys think of a pollution tax. Just a simple 100 euro per PPM, so that is I think around 94 euro per 1 hour of Blast Furnace usage. It helps people from abusing the EP system and makes people think about overproduction.
#Pollution Tax
urban dirge
I'm good with the idea of it just not sure how to implement it or what the best cost would be
saying how much 1 hour of BF is helps
slender blaze
Maybe half the amount
still sapphire
I think it's a neat idea to prevent intentional pollution for keeping EPs high
mossy bluff
From previous tests, 100 was a reasonable amount, iron bars went up by only a few cents per bar.
mossy bluff
I dont have my calculator with me at this time, but Ive spoken to some veteran smelter ad the like, and they tell me 100/ppm seems very reasonable. So this would be my prefered jump off point when we create such a law. We can always lower/raise it at a later date once we have seen some numbers and collected some feedback from our dear citizens.
slender blaze
From previous tests, 100 was a reasonable amount, iron bars went up by only a fe...
Fair enough
hearty nacelle
100ish euros per hour per blast furnace seems high to me, considering different crafts have different times as well.
mossy bluff
Steel bars are like 4 bars every 45 seconds?
hearty nacelle
Is this just blast furnaces or all pollution?
mossy bluff
All pollution, Im just more focused on using a blast furnace as example becuase most people know those items.
But a oil refinery produces more pollution so that would roughly be 135 per hour
Ofcourse they will also need the EP's to actually run it for that long
hearty nacelle
It could be quite suffocating and see much less goods on the market, not sayign it would be the case but its a risk I would worry about later in the cycle.
mossy bluff
I would like to suggest we try it as is and see in a weeks time how it does. We can lower/raise it down the line or even remove it if we see its truly life ruining.
hearty nacelle
Im for trying it, I just have my worries.
mossy bluff
Understandable
urban dirge
go with a lower rate and see how it fairs?
mossy bluff
But remember, PJ never taxes people more than they can handle
How many Iron bars get created in 1 hour? Like 400?
slender blaze
Are we able to set a free usage limit? So everyone with the specific skill can pollute a little bit for free per day. Then pay above the threshold
Means that the rich pay more
mossy bluff
True true, however, it does complicate the law and then people won't understand.
We get those kind of issues.
What is really the problem with a tax that saves people from overproducing and overpolluting and exploiting the EP system?
Iron bar gets a few (single digit) cents more expensive, steel bars might rise by 1 euro
Garbage Incineration might become expensive (not sure how long that takes), but we can counter that with Federal Incinerators.
slender blaze
Not against the tax. I would prefer a small allowance. This would help smaller shops, but still impact bigger polluters
mossy bluff
I rather we didn't. We already have a tiered tax that needs explaining, a EP law only 3 people understand, might be nice for the other laws/taxes to be as straight forward as possible.
urban dirge
doesnt the regular EP law already have a free allowance?
slender blaze
So, this doesn't need to be decided tonight, but should be decided soon.
PJ wants flat Pollution tax. I'd like it to be tiered (to help out smaller players)