#Paris (Le Zenith, Nov. 24, 2022)
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Concert paris
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Mhm can we show them the ticket with our accounts? Or does that imply that only printed tickets are valid?
The pdf is good
No you have to have either printed ticket or downloaded ones
The pdf file is valid
It's to avoid stolen tickets
im already checking pricing and stuff so ill be prepared
hopefully another europe tour next year 
Ohhh ok then I'm good, I was already getting anxious about it lol
Yeah let's hope so
This area around the venue is so confusing haha. it's cool though
Yeah got my wristband just exploring now on the way to maccies, just accidentally almost ended up in the science museum and such 😅
Well we got plenty of time anyways so is not bad to wander around/explore
Still at mc Baku? Still not kicked out?
I'm in a maccies now it's not particularly busy
I take the train to Paris in 20 mins, excited and stressed for tonight!
Hope they journey goes well!
My train is at 14:30 too, where are you from 👀
Yeah lol
Don't be everything will be all right~ 
I am from Rennes!
Coach 8 :D
When do you reach Montparnasse?
I'll probably stay for a few minutes (wishing I'll go to the bathroom so that I don't need to afterwards
) and then go to the venue lol
At 16h12
Yes, it is really fast now with the high speed line
Yeah it have been in works for quite a long time
Bretagne was really fucked for a moment
Had to delay my train to work an extra shift (literally paid for work rofl) so that's how it is
Hope subway goes swiftly
Yep, and I am from the south of Quimper and it is still 2h30 to do Quimper - Rennes. But the Rennes - Paris is so fast, I feel like teleporting now
17h is starting to be the bad time
You are in pit?
Haha yeah it isn't high speed all the way
No seated but I have to reach the hotel and all
You can be here at 18h I think it should be alright
yeah tough towing the line between hydrating myself and needed to use the bathroom 😅
I'm staying till Monday so I have luggages
Yeah it should be fine
Initial train was 11h so it's a bit more stressful, you never know what can happen on the road
I also go to my hôtel since I am seated too, I think I will go the venue at 18h/18h30
Yes true...
I hope it goes smoothly, but it should be ok. Delays are rare
Yeah it's usually fine
People likes to complain but I find it pretty reliable to use it several time a month
I had to take few ICE to Paris when I was studying in Strasbourg I had no issues
I don't know about their inlands transports tho
It do be like that lol
Well, usually in inland it is a really big travel (15+ cities, for 8-9hours...). So they are never on time, always 10-15 mins late. (I mean it is ok, but you need to know if you want some correspondance). Also they share rails with commercials trains, that's not the case in France.
Oh yeah we destroyed most of these line in France sadly
I think we still have Nantes Lyon and Bordeaux Nantes in TER for sure
Yes but it is their ICE, the equivalent of TGV. But they operate like TER. Quite different, but you can go everywhere from everywhere easily, and it is quite cheap
Oh they use their ICE for that
At least it's more confortable
9h ride in our TER must be hell 
The people coming late-ish to paris, what do you do with your general luggage? Lockers at the venue or bring it to the hostel/hotel first?
Don't be excited. 
Response to this, discord glitched. 
Hôtel first, I dont know how it will be in the venue
Most hotel have a luggage room but at this time most hotel have room ready
Thinking the same. I was just wondering what others do
The dance are so xute
idk how they are doing almost every song 😅
Is it random random or dc random?
okay I know no French so time to figure it out
DC biased random
stopped now so the queuing can begin
Does anyone have any idea how is it sorted?
We are doing queue for both pit. Looks like a mess 😅
Yeah but like which ones which?
^
Okay the left one is normal apparently and the right one is golden pit
left as facing the venue? cool I guessed right seemingly 😅
Yeah
tho I assume they now somehow sort the queues by wristband?
Me too but wanted to be surelmao
Yes
gonna say 625 isn't in the first 50 haha
if I hold it upside down I get 529 tho
improvement 😅
Lmao same here n°329
if that's an unofficial numbering system, time to see yet again if it descends into chaos or not
it'll depend on the venue and if whoever put it together worked with them. If not, 50/50 chance it isn't honored
Yeah, that's the main "issue"
51 to 100 has to come in front
Fortunately you're announcing it here
maybe I should just go sit down
It's not a bad idea tbf
100 to 150
those stilted people here for the pit right 😅
For the pit
Seated are in the right queue
Left queue is normal pit center queue is gold pit
150 to 200
200-250
Don't think so? Or are they?
Like it depends on the numbers (?)
Thank you for your service 

ah cool thanks
no idea what's happening now though I haven't seen any numbers for a while
I think they stopped calling numbers
should've just strolled along at 7pm and accepted my fate
Sécurity talked to them and they stopped
I just heard now that we will enter by number and they wont provide us numbers but to whoever is going later get a wristband inside the venue (?)
Later in the sense of which number range they stopped from
But I ain't sure tbh

Yeah I have no idea whats happening now
If you're gold pit you enter and then find ur place in the queue w ur number
I guess I'll just go join the back of this long queue haha
I saw that you can just ask for which numbers are in line and get inside the queue accordingly
Is that just for gold pit?
No, I'm in normal pit queue and they just put some ppl in the correct order
And tbh you're not scamming anyone, just want to go to "your spot"
the normal pit queue being the one going down the street on the left?
that has now just been moved
Ah yes
Have you managed to get in?
I mean I'm in a queue
Well thats good enough lol
yeah. Number is high enough doubt there's any point trying to move about
@winged hearth Did you arrive safely?
I did not just realise that my ticket wouldn't download properly on my phone barely an hour before the doors open. That is slander
.
(Don't worry I whipped out my laptop and got it to work)
Welp guess I'm gonna be late now
I'm currently at that crossroad where one side is barriered off to traffic
If you're seated you should be good lol
Yeah it's alright for me. But that gave me such a scare
Now there are different lines outside too. Our group split into 3
I'm just confused atp lol
Yeah I'm in ligne 4 
There is 1 big friggin line. Is it for both golden and normal ticket and splits at some point between normal and golden or is there a seperate line for golden?
Hmmmm complicated. Cause my friends and I have golden ticket and are standing near the back of the line atm. Was hoping there was a clear line for golden 😅
Go inside lol
The big line is normal pit
Dangit thanks man
Where exactly is the entrance for golden lmao?
Go in front of everyone
And then go at the end of the cue that 's where the barriers are
If u have a number u can find ur spot if not just at the end
Thanks again! A big help 😁
No problem ☺️
Hello, do you know if seated CAT1 should queue too?
Almost there woohooooo
No idea for seated categoy

I envy yll so much lololol
Ah golden ticket line taking ages as well 🥲
I am a little lost, I am on the road upper the Zenith. But I saw the queue and wooow
Yeah it's a handful
Thanks, I guess I will queue, it seems there's some movement now
Okay we are in the same queue I think?
Are there any food stalls or supermarkets nearby? In my hurry to get here in time I've not eaten since noon 😂
I'm in ☺️
The person placing you asking you for a tip ?
Yeah
Yeah they aren't paid at all here
That's old Paris theaters shenanigans
part of floor seating in main pit atm
looks like the show is real soon, have a good one all!
Thanks!!
still looking like a lot of people to get sat so idk if they'll delay at all for that
patiently waiting for photos of their outfits 
will leave that to someone in gold haha
POG I'm still in line
Guess they started admitting late because for Loona we were all seated with time left
Yeah
As always very overwhelmed rn
I think, there is still people queuing
My feet huuuurt but it was soooo wonderful
I'm going to go to sleep w a big smile on my face
Lowkey same but don't wanna go too deep on it lol
But yeah overall same
What? Report it lol
"Daylight" robbery
Y'all paid for it, there's no way they ain't giving you the goodies

in Warsaw they told us it will be mailed to us by MMT because of shortage in production. Did they tell anything to you?
What? Classic MMT bs lol
Yeah
right
I'm so hungry 😭
But yeah you kinda had to search for it, I didnt get the gold pit in the beginning cause I was buyung tickets and saw a 100€ difference, like no way I'm paying that just for being closer to stage lmao
But then it was with goodies also so kinda better
its really confusing with Hi-Wave and Paris concert tbh.
I would imgine so 😫
I think it was the only concert where MMT had nothing to do with?>
but then who organized Hi-Wave
Yeah, kinda had to look into in it by yourself, it wasn't as straight forward as the other stops
there also should have been people with gold pit tickets who got email about mising merch on site if they supposed to get it.
No goodies, just hi wave
Wait what?
I mean if there was merch, but just not on site, like in Warsaw, people would have gotten email about it
Ah, but not with the gold pit
so it sure looks like no goodies for Paris. What did France do to MMT
Ahhh that's right mmt isn't running that stuff for Paris
Could have been exclusivity with another vendor
but whos running hi-wave as a thing
Mmt is mad at us
Dunno why
Guys I'm going crazy
Did they sing airplane? Ppl swear they didn't
But I heard it
I swear I heard ot
They didn't xD
Really?
Nooo
Am I going crazy
Red Sun though
It's okay I make my own
😂
Lyrics
Now I am full of doubt
could it haven been instrumental before/after concert? 
From first 4 cities Airplane was performed only in Berlin if im not mistaken
Lol I'm going Crazy
Bruv I blanked during hi wave
They I saw Dami
And I went iiiii love youuuuu
😭😭🫣
Yes
She's popular w the lesbian
S
wlw
My guess
Also
Sorry in advance for the footage ruined by my screams
Lmao
My recording didn't even work for the high wave xD'
But got a good view during the concert
Managed to get some good pics as well. It was great fun.
Sweet!!
i failed to properly film it both times I wanted
You can hear the panic in my voice at the end
Didnt expect the hi-wave to be like that, they look like caged animals lol
Btw the whole no goodies for gold pit is really bs...
I got some
What do you mean no goodies for gold pit?
We didn't get goodies
What do you call goodies?
Free stuff
Not sure we’re on the same page here
Lol
Yeah
When?
apparently you all sold out the venue. https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/article/421/0006481468 - good job, considering the listed capacity is between 6300 - close to 7k
evidently 5000 of them have never listened to wind blows before
to be honest there was a talk here about how attendance in Zenith can be changed if there are curtains and also stage is moved like it this picture. I saw another one with max attendance like 5k or something.
The venue reports have multiple configs so it's certainly possible. Seating and not seating configs can change things around
However Reading was like this and they had a 4800 config there so . 
And we know reading can hold more but there we confirmed the arena was divided up
looking at what sectors were available during the selling (pinned comment) those black sectors on top like H, D and so on werent on sale. And they are included in maximum capacity of 6.8k
It didn't look like that was just 3k either, though
I suppose we may never know
Regardless, sold out show which means they not only made money but got a kickback contract wise from doing that
Sold out means DC knew how much they will sell and thats probably maximized their profit
More than people know
Poland was sold out, Tilburg was almost sold out
You get bonuses from doing that
Break even point likely reached by Warsaw and certainly by London
I read capacity was 4k there yesterday, but can't confirm
I read a while ago that artists don't really make that much money via tickets, but rather via merch sold during concerts. So I hope y'all got some new hoodies 😁
That really depends. In my experience the artist/company will take in 75-85% of the total revenue, merchandise sales are somewhat a part of that. Depending on what was negotiated a rider can have bonuses for sellouts, or for the venue making a certain amount from other sales.
ticket sales are just one part of revenue, so technically what you read is correct - it just excludes the fact that tour revenue is more than just at-the-door sales
really, it's highly dependent on what was negotiated
Interesting insights, thank you!
Talked to the fanbase girl who was organising the golden pit line 50 by 50. She told me there were roughly 1000 in the golden pit and 1000 in the pit. Numbers given to her by Le Zénith folks.
So we definitely were more than 3000 🙂. Here is a panorama pic i took right before the start of the show
I just wanted to ask Phoenix, as he is familiar with concerts and all. Could it have been even better, if concerts were announced earlier than they did? I saw people saying 1 month was not enough head start.
It would have been better if the concert would not have been on a Thursday night
Yeah sure but most venues are booked months ahead. In Paris not so many big venues as le Zénith. Perhaps le Palais des congrès. Otherwise it s gonna be stadiums (much much bigger) but bigger financial risk unless the company programs a sole concert
The announcement of this tour had less lead time than previous ones, but it's still more than enough time for arrangements. You want to announce with a decent amount of lead time but people need to remember that you can't announce until all the details with rider and venue are locked up. If a venue is balking at some of the finer details or something else in the chain (like merch logistics) is delayed it potentially delays the announcement
as I've said many times re: booking, this year is especially difficult to get the right dates and availability because groups are anxious to get their tour revenue back
the posters outside the o2 showing all the acts of november didnt even have dc on so i assume it was a fairly late decision
The screen on the wall of the venue outside did have a slide which included all of november's acts and dreamcatcher was included/listed though
But I can see what you mean
eh, there's any number of reasons why they couldn't put one up. Negotiations with venues are begun as early as 3-6 months out
you can't just book a venue in a month unless something suddenly frees up or you have a really good relationship/clout with said venue
it's why when I hear stuff like "just add more stops" it makes me facepalm. That doesn't happen unless you're already in talks or you have the influence to yoink a date with a signed agreement
possible, but not easily done from scratch
Since they are not the only artists competing to get this or this venue. Provided they can afford it 😉