you know it's bad when arlene is against the king
#Keir's House of Not-Quite-Horrors
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you know it's bad when the KING is having to pull his weight
for a union they're so loyal to
the union is against them
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arlene???
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Arlene Foster
Commonly known as "cunt"
Prominent DUP scumbag
So from what I understand here, rishi wanted to use the king to further his political goals, shortly before the NI protocol is due to be completed?
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i think?
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Ok, so it affects our trading agreements as we are both part of Europe and we also aren't
So rishi just wants to use the king for his own benefit lmfao. Some patriot he is
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_one radio 1 coverage
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Arlene Foster
i know who she is lol, i'm just surprised by her statement
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Oh ok my bad
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“within our chosen kill zone with other armed volunteers giving cover... All volunteers returned safely to base.
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“within our chosen kill zone with other armed volunteers giving cover... All vol...
Scary fuckin time to live here
I'm definitely not living here much longer at this point
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aodhan belfast era
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Aodhan leaves the uk like he keeps saying he's gonna do challenge
Maybe I'll just move to Australia or something like every other person here seems to do eventually
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I don't wanna live in America though
America is also scary
I wanna go to Canada but less so after I looked into their politics
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my uncle's in canada so good to avoid
a deal has been agreed in the last few minutes
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Honestly this has cemented my not going into tech this week cos everyone will be talking about this
I hope it's not a bad agreement for the people. Rishi has his own interests alone at heart
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DUP expected to accept
BBC iPlayer is a minute behind but I can't get a non-pxiilated signal on tv
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If they don't accept, I can't say they're in the wrong, with how rishi has handled it
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conference is at 15:30
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So it screws us over lol
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The DUP wanted shortages too
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For what reason
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Felt left out
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no tomatoes for us!
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No anything for us
A lot of our economy success and goods are dependent on our free trade in the EU
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Gonna make this country even worse
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I mean I giggled bc that's exactly the shit he'd say
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All I can say is thank FUCK it's not Boris doing this
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god, i can't even imagine
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does anyone else think the governments concession will set a precedent
i.e the parties know they can get anything they want from westminster now if they hold up the assembly long enough
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God damn
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crime gang... so more connection to drugs
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Non nationalist background could mean fucking anything
It could mean protestants, or immigrants, or anything
If it's protestants that's fucked cos that implies they're trying to frame Catholics cos the new IRA claimed the shooting as their own
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local rumours involved mentions of Caldwell being a victim of "The Firm" which is a drug dealing type group
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Makes sense, he is a cop
Could just be the IRA claimed it falsely
As in, they didn't do it and just claimed to
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the crime group being linked to the IRA is like
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Drug dealers
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the IRA has a past of being notoriously anti drugs ironically
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so the New IRA being seemingly involved in drugs is... ironic
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four protestants
That's all the fucking members of the shooting, practically. Or it's all of them, definitely?
That car couldn't fit more than 5 people without one getting in the boot
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can we talk about king charles pissing off loyalists
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What he do
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mf loyalists are pissing off loyalists
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twitter spat
i have heard chat that it is loyalists posing as NIRA
but also
the second it's declared to associated with republicans the news is all over it
but if it's loyalist? silent
like how in 2021 they had water cannons out the second anyone on the nationalist side went out
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but if it's loyalist? silent
That's not a mystery at all
If it's pro-british or anti-independence, the pro-british media will not report on it
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so glad i live in belgium and not in the uk
it looks even more fucked up, and being more fucked up than belgium deserves guiness world record
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Nah fair fucks to him for changing sides so coherently
From one terrorist organisation to another
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Fucking paywalls
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in WHAT world do the violent Republicans and violent Loyalists, known previously for murdering each other, collaborate to go against police?
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Jeepers
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Twitter
naomi came to roast
"Emma Little-Pengpetty... you are so upset that you can't pick and choose what British means. Maybe you're more aligned with Irish Catholic views in the 60s than you are British..."
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what is his problem
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He expects the courts to treat him with sympathy
He views himself as a victim that's the problem
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/mar/04/food-tsar-blames-shortages-on-uks-weird-supermarket-culture what a headline
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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/enoch-burke-case-review-fails-to-go-a...
This man is fucking ridiculous
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food tsar?
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This man is fucking ridiculous
Unquantifiably so
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https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/im-owed-10k-love-uvf-suspect-in-cash-demand-at-womans-front-door/66068158.html paywall ofc but
this is who the UVF are
criminal gangs
just with flavour
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"Detectives are also highlighting a reward of up to £20,000 from Crimestoppers, who are a charity and independent of the police. The reward is offered for information given directly to Crimestoppers that leads to the arrest and conviction of those responsible for John’s attempted murder"
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-64880004
this reminds me of the other nurse
beverley allit i think is her name
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I won’t be surprised
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Enoch is making a mockery of the courts and I hope he goes to prison for contempt of court
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Babe wake up the new loyalist threat just got released
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Fucking missiles
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Bottles become missiles whenever reporting on Republicans apparently
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Then missiles must be atomic bombs
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Water pistols are Gatling guns
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brilliant
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we should look at this
"Clause 16 of the deal (see link) says: “Resettlement of vulnerable Refugees: 16.1. The Participants will make arrangements for the United Kingdom to resettle a portion of Rwanda’s most vulnerable refugees in the United Kingdom, recognising both Participants’ commitment towards providing better international protection for refugees.”
There are currently about 100,000 refugees in Rwanda, two thirds of whom are Congolese, according to the United Nations. https://reporting.unhcr.org/rwanda"
so we're sending planes to rwanda with people so they can be resettled there
and we take refugees from rwanda?
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Are we just trading migrants at this point
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...yes
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Jesus wept
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I'd say stick her in one and leave her, but I wouldn't wanna do that to the people there
Hopefully, the fact that it's not actually reducing the amount of migrants will help turn the people for this against it, but IDK. Horrible all round huh
though I'm not exactly any authority on what actually protects refugees
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I dont know why this is so funny to me
Especially since its a bbc article
First he lost his metaphorical voice-
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A three-man ‘committee’ is effectively leading the South East Antrim (SEA) UDA drugs cartel after long-time leader Gary Fisher took a back seat.
The terror triumvirate now in charge of Northern Ireland’s biggest crime gang is made up of:
Fisher’s second-in-command, a veteran SEA UDA member from the Ballyduff estate in Newtownabbey who keeps a low profile; A feared UFF gunman who murdered Catholic postal worker Danny McColgan in 2002, and has been linked to two other killings; A hated bully-boy from the Rathcoole estate known as the ‘Butcher’ who runs the SEA UDA’s cannabis and cocaine empire. Fisher’s decision to wind down his leadership role follows months of speculation around his future.
Under-pressure from the Paramilitary Crime Task Force, and with his finances at the centre of a National Crime Agency (NCA) investigation, the veteran loyalist has handed over the reins to his three underbosses.
The 56-year-old remains the drug gang’s ‘brigadier’ and most powerful figure, however its day-to-day running is now controlled by the ‘Committee’.
“Fisher felt he had no choice but to take a step back because he is under so much pressure from the PSNI,” a UDA source told Sunday Life.
“There is hardly a day goes by that the Task Force doesn’t raid a house in connection with UDA drug dealing. That combined with the NCA investigation has really taken its toll on Fisher. He’s aged terribly and is basically a recluse now.
“He barely leaves his home in Greenisland these days and didn’t bother going to Ben Hunter’s (senior UDA figure) funeral the other week.”
UDA members who want to speak to Fisher had previously been told to go through the gang’s Carrickfergus chief Clifford ‘Trigger’ Irons. But with the leading loyalist having effectively stepped down, they have been told any future problems will be dealt with by the ‘Committee’.
Our UDA source added: “The Butcher, who would be the UDA’s main drugs boss, is looking after Rathcoole even though the estate has its own ‘commander’.
“The rest of the ‘commanders’ in Newtownabbey, Carrick and Larne are reporting to the Butcher, the UFF ‘military leader’, and the guy who is Fisher’s 2IC (second-in-command).
“They are handling all the drug and protection money and sending Fisher down his cut, which he is happy enough with seeing as it’s more than £50,000 a month.”
However, not all UDA members are pleased with the new arrangement, with some wanting a permanent ‘brigadier’ to replace Fisher.
One name suggested is that of a veteran and well-liked loyalist aged in his 60s who works in the Monkstown area. He is fiercely anti-drugs and if he was in charge, UDA members feel it could help the terror gang shed its cocaine cartel image.
But he, like many other leading loyalists, are refusing to take on the role because of their fears of media exposure.
UDA sources say being photographed by Sunday Life in 2017 — having avoided being pictured for 15 years which led to him being known as the ‘ghost’ — was what broke Gary Fisher, and ultimately led to him stepping back from the ‘brigadier’ role.
“That photo was the beginning of the end for Fisher, once he started appearing in the paper every week the PSNI had to do something about him,” added the UDA insider.
“Other UDA men have seen what that has done to him and don’t want it for themselves. That’s why no one wants to replace him as ‘brigadier’.”
The SEA UDA is estimated by police to have around 2,500 members, making millions of pounds each year from rackets including drug dealing and extortion.
It controls crime turf in loyalist areas stretching along the east Antrim coast from Larne to north Belfast, and has a presence in Bangor and Newtownards.
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What is his problem?
I have never seen a man this ignorant and astronomically awful
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Really?
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Maybe aside republicans
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Which republicans
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Everything about Burke’s case is infuriating that my blood heats up to the point it’s a plasma
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Which republicans
American republicans
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Yeehaw
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https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/news/enoch-burke-arrives-at-school-again-des...
He has literally been fired as of February and still shows up
The audacity of the Burke family is astonishing
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Indeed
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https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0321/1364434-portadown-death/
I'd be worried this was a politically or religiously inspired murder
It doesn't say anything about it but given how this country is
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@neon mantle belfast telegraph says the woman killed in the house fire was a foreign national
So it's probably not a religious thing I hope
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fuck up
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Twitter
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Boris is getting absolutely roasted on Twitter
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Is this real
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Yes
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I think people have wanted an assembly back for a long time now
Just that we kept sucking up to the DUP
And try to please something that could never be pleased
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Mysterious Lidl bag
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uh oh
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Defcon 4 🤟
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Paul O'Grady died
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Twitter
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Car fires in north Belfast
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comment i just read on facebook "Dickie barry the leader of the so called north down uff gang wasn’t expelled he stopped taking orders of the west Belfast leadership Adrian price was expelled from the south east Antrim uda but as south east Antrim uda havnt been taking orders from the so called main uda leadership for many many years does that not mean that they should all be getting classed as dissident loyalist scumbags"
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It was severe for over a decade and only lowered last year
Did they just say it's okay if it's loyalists?
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https://twitter.com/Kscott_94/status/1641500797132234752?s=20
the ruff?
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Someone on tattle says the fighting started as a result of a pub fight
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14 and 15? Jeepers
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https://twitter.com/Kscott_94/status/1641500797132234752?s=20
So there’s two UFFs now? The one that existed for a long time and now a new one?
Both from the same parent group too
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How long before we have paramilitary names like WWF and shit
'Love pandas, hate taigs'
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new paramilitary just dropped
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Is it something in Ulster Scots?
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Why does he look like hes about to finger the other one
Also is that the top ones armpit or the bottom ones huge erection
The more I look the more i find wrong with this image
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https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/gaa-taster-sessions-for...
This is like if unionists tried to set up an ulster scots workshop in schools
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https://www.derrynow.com/news/local-news/1076006/counter-terrorism-operation-tak...
There were many police cars when I was being sent to school
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I love how all this started happening recently after the derry girls finale
Where the whole emphasis was on the place learning to live peacefully
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Are people here even aware of official defense forces
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Thats an unfortunate date to put out such a statement
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fair fucks to the residents
trying to find out about this
basically, evictions in the south
it's sort of like this
that's from 8 years ago mind
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UDR oh my
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so fucking odd
"we think they're gonna murder us so we're sending all our police officers"
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I genuinely think they're just using this to attack people
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Twitter
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https://twitter.com/BelTel/status/1644604102041640962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwca...
Not surprising
Kinda sucks
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That’s concerning
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If these are survey-based results then thats a minimum
Theres bound to be at least a few dozen more who just didnt admit to it
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They can't make up their minds
If this wasn't put behind a paywall we'd have an idea
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The New IRA aren't gonna bomb an American President they're not fucking stupid
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Hes an ally as far as theyre concerned
When have the americans ever come here for unionists
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The UDA and UFF and UDR and UVF and whatever other U are fire bombing people's homes and there's not a whiff on British news
These fuckers are gonna make me subscribe to premium for this server
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https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/new-ira-plotting-bomb-outrag...
Police have uncovered a New IRA bomb plot aimed at eclipsing US President Joe Biden’s visit to Belfast to mark the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement.
The news came as a number of well-known dissident republicans took to the streets of west Belfast in a number of parades over the Easter weekend.
New IRA Derry boss Thomas Mellon was at Saturday’s event organised by the paramilitary organisation’s political wing Saoradh.
Mellon, who is on a 10-year MI5 terror watch-list, led the march up the Falls Road along with dissident Dee Fennell.
Up to 200 took part in the parade with police keeping a watchful eye in a low-key operation.
Other notable figures gathered in Milltown Cemetery.
Those laying wreaths at the republican plot included Jordan Devine, the 22-year-old charged with the murder of journalist Lyra McKee in April 2019 which he denies.
Her sister Nichola Corner told Sunday Life she was disgusted by the graveyard show of strength.
She said: “It is absolutely disgusting that a person awaiting trial for the murder of my beautiful sister, a Belfast girl, would be invited to lay a wreath of remembrance at a republican memorial event held in Belfast.
“It would seem that this so-called ‘political’ organisation are intent on throwing insult after insult at Lyra and our family at every opportunity.
“They should be ashamed of themselves. People need to see that this brand of republicanism has absolutely nothing of value to offer anyone.”
Jason Ceulemans, a New IRA bomber who had been thrown back in prison for breaching the terms of his early release, was another Derry dissident at the parade. His licence was officially revoked last year after he attended a republican Easter commemoration at a Derry cemetery which descended into rioting. He was freed again just before Christmas.
Ceulemans, who is the Derry chairman of Saoradh, was sentenced to 10 years after being caught with a mortar in 2012. He spent five years behind bars before being freed on licence.
Another republican who took part in the Easter show of strength was Christy O’Kane, who was sentenced to 10 years in prison for Provisional IRA bomb and gun attacks in the 1990s.
This was the New IRA in Derry flexing its muscles in Belfast with second-in-command in the city, Fergal Melaugh, also there. It was the first major public gathering of dissidents here since the New IRA murder bid on Detective Chief Inspector John Caldwell in Omagh in February.
Addressing supporters, Dee Fennell said: “Other republican organisations who I don’t speak for, who can speak for themselves, like the IRA, have also demonstrated through their own actions against Crown forces, and through their own words, that they are here to stay as well.”
He added: “I want to pay tribute to those on the streets and in the countryside who continue to fight for the Republic.
“These men and women are the forefront of our struggle, as political activists in their own right they strive to achieve a socialist Republic that all of our patriot dead envisaged.
“Our prisoners are the personification of resilience, discipline, determination and commitment. All are in jail because of their commitment to the core republican aims and objectives.”
Police have already warned dissident republicans could attempt to draw officers into shootings or bombings over the Easter period, with “strong intelligence” about dissident republican attacks on police in Derry tomorrow where another commemoration is planned.
It takes place exactly 25 years after the Good Friday Agreement was signed.
It comes as a huge security operation is being mounted to welcome US President Joe Biden on his first visit to Northern Ireland.
And now Sunday Life can reveal exactly why there was a major search operation for all those days in Derry city in recent weeks.
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Police have disrupted a New IRA bomb plot aimed at overshadowing the president’s trip to Belfast to mark the 25th anniversary of the historic peace accord.
Searches of land in Derry by the PSNI’s Terrorism Investigation Unit (TIU), which led to the recovery of an old firearm, were connected to the planned attack.
So too was the arrest on Tuesday of prominent republican Kieran McCool, who is on bail charged with New IRA bomb-making. He was freed without charge the following day after falling ill.
Hours later PSNI Assistant Chief Constable Bobby Singleton told a meeting of the Policing Board about those fears that dissidents could also be planning serious public disorder on Easter Monday.
These are connected to two illegal parades in Derry — one in the Rosemount area in the morning, and in the Creggan estate in the afternoon.
The latter is organised by Saoradh. At its Easter Monday march in Derry last year, petrol bombs were thrown at police vehicles.
Sources in the city say that the terror gang has been plotting a bomb attack on the PSNI to coincide with President Biden’s visit to Northern Ireland on Easter Tuesday, and the arrest of McCool and recent searches in the Creggan are connected to the plot.
An insider revealed: “The PSNI spent four days searching around Kildrum Gardens and the Letterkenny Road, and then they were back last weekend in Coshowen with the British Army bomb squad.
“They were looking for parts to make a bomb. The belief is that the New IRA was planning some sort of attack to coincide with Biden’s visit, similar to the mortar attack on the cops in Strabane last November.”
Republicans explained how the New IRA’s Derry leader Thomas Mellon had been demanding a “spectacular” to overshadow the GFA’s anniversary events.
Our source added: “He wanted to have a spectacular, but with all the PSNI raids and Brit searches it’s likely he will have to settle for a riot on Easter Monday.”
In a statement published on its website Saoradh condemned the arrest of party member Kieran McCool, saying: “Upon Kieran’s arrival at Strand Road barracks, an ambulance had to be called immediately as his health had deteriorated due to the actions of crown forces. Kieran is a well-known, well-respected republican and held in high regard throughout his community and further afield.”
McCool (54), who has suffered two recent heart attacks, is on bail facing charges of constructing a fire-bomb used in the attempted murders of a part-time police officer and her three-year-old daughter in Dungiven.
He has also been linked to a mortar discovered in Strabane in September 2019 and a device found on Derry’s Skeoge Road in July 2016. In evidence against McCool a police officer accused him in court of “being a bomb-maker on behalf of the New IRA”.
Fears over the New IRA’s Biden visit bomb plot come as the terrorism threat in Northern Ireland was raised from substantial to severe, meaning an attack is highly likely.
The level was raised after the New IRA’s attempted murder in February of DCI Caldwell, who survived being shot multiple times at a sports centre.
Meanwhile in Lurgan on Saturday, Republican Sinn Fein held its Easter commemoration at its memorial garden in the Kilwilkie estate.
Around 20 supporters gathered for a short wreath-laying ceremony at 2pm followed by the laying of more wreaths in the nearby St Colman’s cemetery. In the past a masked Continuity IRA gunman has fired shots at the graveyard gathering.
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Quite the read
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i paid for premium+
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access to newspapers too
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e papers
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Does your family still buy papers
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My granda still gets the irish news but especially when theyve an insertion in
For a birthday or a death
He won a fiver a while ago on a crossword
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Its all supposed to kick off tomorrow
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really worried about the proposal of changes to the equality act being floated
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That's good, but given what that means, I suspect they'd just turn around and say no to leaving it alone?
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Teenagers?
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yeah
to quote reddit "The risk alone of those petrol bombs hitting a house in their own estate shows you the mentality of these knuckle dragging morons."
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Are these teenagers a part of paramilitaries or just some edgy teens?
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They look younger than me
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Police have appealed for calm after officers were attacked with petrol bombs in Londonderry during the annual Easter Rising parades.
A number of petrol bombs and other objects were thrown at a PSNI Land Rover in the Creggan area on Monday afternoon.
Meanwhile, around 30 youths have set wheelie bins alight in the middle of the road of the Eastway area of Creggan, creating a roadblock.
A spokesperson for the PSNI said its officers were attacked during an un-notified Easter parade.
"No injuries have been reported at this time,” added the spokesperson. “We would appeal for calm.”
Images of the violence show a number of youths throwing petrol bombs at a PSNI Land Rover, which was installed with a CCTV camera.
Trouble flared as a parade in the city – organised by the Derry 1916 Commemoration Committee which has the support of Saoradh – made its way down Iniscarn Road.
The Irish tricolour and IRA signs line the parade route down Iniscarn Road and Iniscarn Crescent, which passes the local church.
Flags reading “Unfinished Business” and “Unfinished Revolution” containing the silhouettes of gunmen are also hanging from lamp posts.
At the city cemetery on Monday, a Republican delivering the oration told those gathered that it is not enough to shout “up the IRA, the important thing is to join the IRA”.
In response to footage of the attacks on police circulating on social media, UUP leader Doug Beattie said: “Absolute wasters. Sent out to riot by men sitting in pubs acting the big lads. #NoGoingBack.”
SDLP MP Colum Eastwood said: “These are kids with no memory or experience of the violence of 25 years ago and they’re being exploited and abused by people with no vision for the future.
“This is the real cost of failure. We have to do much better.”
Ireland’s Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment Simon Coveney expressed his “full support for the PSNI in the face of violent attacks”.
"So called dissident republicans have nothing to offer our society, north or south,” he wrote.
“A tiny minority of thugs seeking headlines, wanting to take Northern Ireland backwards.”
Alliance leader and former Justice Minister Naomi Long said “scenes of people born after the GFA attacking the police are utterly tragic”.
"They are being groomed by adults who have nothing to offer but misery and destruction,” she added.
"The people of Creggan deserve better. Solidarity with police.”
DUP MLA Gary Middleton described it as a clear “coordinated attack” on the PSNI.
"The parade was illegal from the outset,” he said. “This reckless behaviour is an attempt to cause harm not only to PSNI officers but to our communities as well. There must be swift action to bring those responsible to justice.”
Alliance MLA Kellie Armstrong branded the violence as “disgraceful”.
"The actions of some who want to drag NI back to dark days is abhorrent,” she said.
“One side throws petrol bombs, trades in drugs, prostitution and criminality and the other side does exactly the same. Criminals.”
The Northern Ireland Policing Board issued a statement on its social media channels.
"Depressing to see the level of hate directed at officers this afternoon in Creggan,” it tweeted.
“Thankful that no one has been injured and that calm will be restored.”
Speaking ahead of Monday’s parade, Assistant Chief Constable Bobby Singleton, said displays of paramilitary uniforms and shows of strength were expected, in addition to the illegal parades.
"We have very strong community intelligence coming forward in relation to Monday’s events and real concern that there may be attempts to draw police into serious public disorder and to use that as a platform to launch terrorist attacks on police," he said.
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i can't help but feel all this talk about dissident republican threats and a real lack of actually catching any out New IRA members is fishy
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The real UFF still boggles me to this day, we already have an UFF and they broke from the same main organisation
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that is suspicious
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the ones throwing petrol bombs up in derry reportedly in an anti-agreement organisation
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PSNI reviewing footage in terror probe after officers attacked with petrol bombs during Easter Rising parades in Derry
Police are reviewing footage of youths throwing petrol bombs during an un-notified Easter Rising parade in Derry as an investigation into potential offences under the Terrorism Act gets underway.
Officers in a PSNI Land Rover came under attack in the Creggan area of the city on Monday afternoon.
Around 30 youths set wheelie bins alight in the middle of the road of the Eastway area to create a roadblock a short time later.
Derry City & Strabane Area Commander Chief Superintendent Nigel Goddard described the violence as “incredibly disheartening”.
"As the parade was un-notified, police were in attendance with a proportionate policing operation,” he said.
“Sadly, before the parade even started, we observed young people in the vicinity making petrol bombs to throw at police.
"Shortly after the parade commenced, petrol bombs and other objects were thrown at one of our vehicles at the junction of Iniscarn Road and Linsfort Drive.
"This was a senseless and reckless attack on our officers who were in attendance in the area in order to comply with our legal duties.”
The police officer said participants at the parade made their way out of City Cemetery before removing paramilitary uniforms under the cover of umbrellas and setting them on fire.
“Organisers of this parade communicated in advance their desire to have a respectful and dignified event, however, that is not what we witnessed today," Mr Goddard added.
“There can be no place for this type of criminal activity.
"It is not wanted nor welcomed by the vast majority of people across the city.
"During today's policing operation, we deployed evidence-gathering resources, and obtained footage which will now be reviewed as part of an investigation into potential offences under the Terrorism Act 2000.
"As we head into this evening, we would appeal for calm, and welcome support from those with influence to help prevent any further disorder in the city this evening."
A spokesperson for the PSNI previously confirmed no injuries have been reported as a result of the rioting.
Images of the violence showed a number of youths throwing petrol bombs at a PSNI Land Rover, which was installed with a CCTV camera.
Trouble flared as a parade in the city – organised by the Derry 1916 Commemoration Committee which has the support of Saoradh – made its way down Iniscarn Road.
The Irish tricolour and IRA signs line the parade route down Iniscarn Road and Iniscarn Crescent, which passed the local church.
Flags reading “Unfinished Business” and “Unfinished Revolution” containing the silhouettes of gunmen hung from lamp posts.
At the city cemetery on Monday, a Republican delivering the oration told those gathered that it is not enough to shout “up the IRA, the important thing is to join the IRA”.
In response to footage of the attacks on police circulating on social media, UUP leader Doug Beattie said: “Absolute wasters. Sent out to riot by men sitting in pubs acting the big lads. #NoGoingBack.”
SDLP MP Colum Eastwood said: “These are kids with no memory or experience of the violence of 25 years ago and they’re being exploited and abused by people with no vision for the future.
“This is the real cost of failure. We have to do much better.”
Ireland’s Minister for Enterprise, Trade and Employment Simon Coveney expressed his “full support for the PSNI in the face of violent attacks”.
"So called dissident republicans have nothing to offer our society, north or south,” he wrote.
“A tiny minority of thugs seeking headlines, wanting to take Northern Ireland backwards.”
Alliance leader and former Justice Minister Naomi Long said “scenes of people born after the GFA attacking the police are utterly tragic”.
"They are being groomed by adults who have nothing to offer but misery and destruction,” she added.
"The people of Creggan deserve better. Solidarity with police.”
DUP MLA Gary Middleton described it as a clear “coordinated attack” on the PSNI.
"The parade was illegal from the outset,” he said. “This reckless behaviour is an attempt to cause harm not only to PSNI officers but to our communities as well. There must be swift action to bring those responsible to justice.”
Alliance MLA Kellie Armstrong branded the violence as “disgraceful”.
"The actions of some who want to drag NI back to dark days is abhorrent,” she said.
“One side throws petrol bombs, trades in drugs, prostitution and criminality and the other side does exactly the same. Criminals.”
The Northern Ireland Policing Board issued a statement on its social media channels.
"Depressing to see the level of hate directed at officers this afternoon in Creggan,” it tweeted.
“Thankful that no one has been injured and that calm will be restored.”
Speaking ahead of Monday’s parade, Assistant Chief Constable Bobby Singleton, said displays of paramilitary uniforms and shows of strength were expected, in addition to the illegal parades.
"We have very strong community intelligence coming forward in relation to Monday’s events and real concern that there may be attempts to draw police into serious public disorder and to use that as a platform to launch terrorist attacks on police," he said.
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the WHAT
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He was the “jewel in the crown” of British intelligence. Now Freddie Scappaticci — the informer known as Stakeknife — will take the secrets of his murderous past to the grave.
For the last 20 years Scappaticci has lived in England under witness protection with a new identity.
When he was revealed as an informer in 2003, he at first tried to brazen it out, giving an interview in a solicitor’s office accusing the media of dirty tricks.
But within weeks he had fled his home in west Belfast.
He was traced by a tabloid reporter to an address in the north of England, but successfully applied for a High Court injunction preventing the publication of any details of his whereabouts.
And that probably would have been the end of the story had it not been for the persistence of the families of some of his victims. Among them was Frankie Mulhern, the father of Joseph Mulhern, who was abducted and murdered by the IRA in 1993 for being an alleged informer.
While many of the families carried the stigma of their loved one being accused of “touting”, Mr Mulhern refused to be silenced.
He campaigned and wrote letters, demanded fresh investigations and spoke out in the media.
Originally from the Markets area of Belfast, Scappaticci was 77. In his youth he had been a promising footballer and was signed by Nottingham Forest.
However, he was homesick, and returned to Belfast where he trained as a bricklayer.
The son of an Italian immigrant, he was interned during Operation Demetrius before being released in 1974 and was by this time a member of the IRA, having joined in prison.
He moved through the ranks quickly and by 1980 was heading up the organisation’s internal security unit, the so-called ‘nutting squad’.
While he was tasked with investigating informers, he was later unmasked as one of the most high-profile double agents in the Provos.
He was responsible for torturing dozens of alleged informers.
During the Troubles 30 people were shot as alleged spies by the ‘nutting squad’ — Scappaticci was directly linked to at least 18 of those “executions”.
Most were low-level informers, so-called ‘ten pound touts’, although some were of a much higher level.
They included estate agent Joe Fenton, who was murdered in 1989 after being unmasked as a Special Branch informer. His body was found dumped in an alleyway in west Belfast. He had been shot four times.
By 1979 he was a senior IRA member and a top-level informer. He was given the agent number 6126 and the codename Stakeknife.
Doubts were only raised in January 1990 when police agent Sandy Lynch was rescued from a house in Andersonstown where he had been held for interrogation by Scappaticci.
A sweep of the house after Lynch’s rescue by CID, who did not know Scappaticci was a spy, found a thumbprint linking him to the scene.
Scappaticci fled to Dublin. However, his handlers concocted an alibi for his thumbprint, saying he had been in the house to repair a TV.
On his return to Belfast in the autumn of 1992 Scappaticci was arrested and then released without charge.
But the IRA was suspicious, and he was gradually sidelined.
In October 2015 then Director of Public Prosecutions Barra McGrory called for police to investigate allegations of security force collusion in at least 24 murders connected to Stakeknife.
The Chief Constable at the time George Hamilton said an outside force should conduct the investigation, and that became the Kenova team.
Former English Chief Constable Jon Boutcher was appointed to lead an independent team to conduct the investigation.
As well as murders carried out by Scappaticci, Kenova also investigated alleged criminal offences committed by members of the Army, the security services or other government personnel who were handling the agent.
The investigation report has been delayed, but should be published later this year.
While he was sanctioned to take life while working for military intelligence, it was reported by BBC Panorama that the Force Research Unit assessed Scappaticci’s intelligence as having saved some 180 lives.
In 2018 Scappaticci pleaded guilty to two counts of possession of extreme pornography. The court heard the charges related to at least 329 images, including bestiality.
He received a suspended sentence, with the magistrate saying: “You have not been before the court for 50 years — and that’s good character in my book.”
The cause of his death is not known, but it is believed a funeral took place in secret prior to the Easter holidays.
While there will be little mourning for the serial killer and infamous military agent, his death means his victims will never receive the justice they deserved.
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Classic tori 101
Coming from the woman who thought Britain importing cheese was a disgrace
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To even be able to apply to do a-levels maths you need at least an A at GCSE, (which you can’t even get if you sat foundation modules)
There are those who don’t like maths and you can’t force them to waste another 2 years on a subject they don’t like when they can be spending that time on a subject they have passion for
This might just lead to more not wanting to take 6th form or more drop outs
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If his GCSE results ever get leaked Im going to be in fucking hysterics if he got anything less than an A in maths & english
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Oh yeah that would be funny
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The focus is completely wrong here
If anything it won't work at 16
You need to start when they're 6
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why the fuck is that behind a paywall
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65345595 yknow things are bad when big banks aren't supporting the lobbying group anymore
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raab is gone 🦀
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/04/19/back-brexit-deal-or-face-united-...
Damn
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A nine-year-old boy, a teenage girl, a male pensioner — these are just some of the victims of the 3,260 paramilitary-style attacks carried out in Northern Ireland since the Good Friday Agreement.
As the country marks 25 years on from the signing of the historic peace accord, new figures show the extent to which paramilitary gangs continue to terrorise communities.
Such attacks have long been used as a way for gangs to exert a degree of control in their respective areas.
The figures detailing the attacks since the signing of the Agreement in 1998 reveal a number of trends. The majority of the 3,260 attacks have been attributed to loyalists (2,064), compared to 1,196 attacks attributed to republicans.
The weapons used range from firearms to baseball bats and hammers. Republicans are more inclined to carry out shootings, while loyalists tend to carry out assaults.
The age range of the victims is wide, from just nine years old to pensioners in their 70s. While the vast majority of victims have been male, 80 have been female.
One nine-year-old boy received injuries to his ribcage, while a 24-year-old woman was shot nine times — four times in her left leg, once in the right leg, twice in her left elbow, once to the left side of her groin, and another time on the left side of her torso.
Aged just 15, one teenage girl received injuries to her face.
Another victim, aged 75, was injured in a case of mistaken identity, while another 75-year-old suffered a fractured ankle and extensive bruising to his head, arm and shoulder.
Police chiefs have previously stated that parents of children set up to be attacked “by appointment” have plied them with alcohol or powerful painkillers to lessen the pain in some cases.
Due to fear and coercion, rarely are perpetrators brought before the courts.
A recent academic report entitled ‘The Pains of Paramilitarism’ was compiled following interviews with victims of paramilitary assaults.
It found that an overwhelming number of participants had experienced difficult upbringings, including drug abuse at home and time in state care.
“I got bottled over the head and all twice as well, and hit over the legs with hammers and then jumped on,” one victim said of his experiences.
“Every one of my mates have all been shot, every one of them. The first night the gun jammed in the back of my head. Then the second night they came back and tried to shoot me.”
The report also said that victims of these attacks often experience trauma for years afterwards, including severe mental health issues.
West Belfast priest Fr Martin Magill is a member of the pressure group Stop Attacks, which works to tackle the scourge of paramilitary beatings and shootings. He said he was “astounded” by the figures.
“I would monitor these attacks quite closely through the monthly police bulletins, but I am shocked when you take a step back and see how many attacks have happened in the last 25 years,” he said.
“Of course, this is also particularly poignant as we’ve been marking the anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement, because this kind of thing is still going on and, to some extent, we’re tolerating it. At Stop Attacks we feel that this subject doesn’t get enough attention, so I welcome that there is a focus on it through these figures being revealed.
“There’s what is called the ‘societal shrug’, where we might hear news of these attacks in the morning and then we shrug our shoulders and get on with our breakfast. Over the years we’ve normalised something that is abnormal. At the end of the day these are human rights abuses and even child abuse in some cases.”
To tackle the problem, Fr Magill says society needs to focus on it and “call it out for what it is”. He also said there needs to be a greater focus on neighbourhood policing.
“We also need to create resilient communities and, it is a huge ask, but create an environment where people have the confidence to bring information forward regarding these attacks to the police,” he said.
SDLP Policing Board member Mark H Durkan said: “When the Good Friday Agreement was signed I don’t think any of us anticipated that attacks of this nature would still be taking place 25 years later. While these statistics are stark, behind every single one of these attacks is a person, some even children, whose lives have been scarred forever as a result.”
PSNI Detective Superintendent Emma Neill said paramilitary-style attacks are “appalling” acts of violence against some of the most vulnerable members of our communities.
“The number of paramilitary-style attacks, when considered over the 25-year period in question, is deplorable,” she said.
“And the fact that children — one victim as young as nine —have been subjected to attacks is sickening. Such cruel, brutal and cowardly attacks — on any individual, of any age — have no place in society.
“The eradication of such vicious attacks can only be achieved through a multi-agency and societal approach.
“To provide this holistic approach, the Tackling Paramilitarism Programme was created by the Department of Justice in 2016. It tackles all aspects of paramilitarism, including paramilitary-style attacks.”
Det Supt Neill said the PSNI’s Paramilitary Crime Task Force has had a significant amount of success in reducing the number of paramilitary-style attacks and criminality linked to organised crime groups, including huge seizures of cash and drugs.
She added that there were fewer paramilitary-style assaults and shootings in 2022 than during the previous 12 months.
“Paramilitaries are not, in any shape or form, defenders of their communities,” she added.
“Instead, they use a regime of fear and violence to exercise control over the most vulnerable in our society. They make their living from crime and line their pockets at the expense of others, caring nothing for those lives ruined along the way.
“We’re grateful to combined efforts — efforts of our officers, partners and, in particular, the community.”
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I'm kinda turned on
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Turnt
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Id no clue there was an election
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Just call me West Oxfordshire 😎
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dunno what to tell you, i just told it better lmao
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Let the people decide
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jun/09/shadow-minister-bambos-charalam...
wizard name if I've ever heard one
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What a day
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what a day indeedd
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dropping like flies :)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65860564 WOOOOO
Oh this was a month ago, didn't she change her mind because she was anal about not getting a peerage?
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forgot we had this
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And wanted to remain an MP to use parliamentary resources to "investigate" why she wasn't appointed to a low responsibility position
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Huw do you think the BBC predator is
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Young person's lawyer says nobody at the BBC did anything wrong, reports the BBC
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Chance of getting an election at a decent time of year?
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Certainly hasn’t ruled out May, figures crossed that is the case. However others such as George Osbourne are saying November.
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Based on a recent poll I saw
Labour: 572 (+375)
Liberal Democrats: 29 (+21)
SNP: 18 (-30)
Conservatives: 8 (-368)
Plaid Cymru: 3 (+1)
Green: 2 (+1)
Reform: 0
Biggest Labour majority in history, if memory serves me correctly the first time a party has won over 500 seats in a general election
Liberal Democrats to form the Official Opposition, Ed Davey to become Leader of the Opposition (lmao)
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Liberal Democrats to form the Official Opposition, Ed Davey to become Leader of ...
oh wow that's a delightful image
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uwu 4th July GE 👀👀👀
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Let's go!
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I think Labour has gone unhinged
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Innit
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tactically voted Labour, now I feel I ought to shower thrice
still think my constituency might end up with tory, lowkey banking on tory voters who think they'll win anyway not bothering to go and vote, but they have a habit of not doing that
either way, I wait on tenterhooks to find out which white guy's secretary I get to complain at over email for the next 5 ish years
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I voted SDLP purely because of the fact their candidate runs the food bank and has been campaigning for Palestine since day one
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I dig that
I'd love to eventually get to vote for who's local policies I like best instead of trying to make oliver dowden lose his job, or whatever other blue tie wearing smug prick gets churned out after he's done
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Sinn Fein are gonna win my constituency no matter what
Although SDLP have a real chance in Stormont in 2027
Which can threaten SF
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polls suggested there was like 3.5-4% between conservative and Labour in my constituency last I checked, which is maybe the closest I've ever seen it
normally it's landslide tory
so even if they still keep the seat, which I imagine they will, it might pressure them to actually be vaguely okay at their jobs
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T minus 8 minutes until the exit poll drops
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I'm watching this like Eurovision
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this is so tense
410 to labour
131 to conservatives
61 to lib dem
13 to reform 🤢
10 snp
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ew reform
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that's a fuckin huge labour majority
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bigger than most of the previous polls
i was lowkey holding out for a lib dem opposition which was totally unrealistic but imagine
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that sounds so refreshing
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BBC NI
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my dad's already getting the champagne out
I'm impressed they could find 13 reform candidates who didn't turn out to be dead or making incredibly explicitly racist comments or sex offenders
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Or weren't ghosts???
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I'm impressed they could find 13 reform candidates who didn't turn out to be dea...
spoiler: they didn't and they'll blab in parliament and be found out
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Did you see the video of the woman trying to find her local Reform candidate but there were 0 images?
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i wonder how much this will differ from the actual result still
obviously not massively
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i wonder how much this will differ from the actual result still
I mean I've lied to an exit poller on more than one occasion lmao
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lmao
exit poll man wanted my polling card which i didnt have so he didnt get anything from me
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2 Greens in from the side of a building
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bath usually lib dem i believe
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Brighton and Bristol
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Wish they announced the results like Eurovision
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between blyth and Sunderland to see who gets their votes in first lol
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Wish they announced the results like Eurovision
get the most stereotypical person from each constituency to be the returning officer
some green screen action
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THE BELFAST WEST SEAT GOES TO... SINN FEIN!!
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entering a new era tonight
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Belfast East has me on the edge
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https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-153...
Greece. Cyprus. 12 points
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real
daisy cooper, lib dem deputy, comes into my pub every now and then and once told me she can't drink the Chilean sauvigon blanc bc it gives her heart burn
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I've bartended daisy's international women's day event twice now and instead of actually discussing women's issues its more "here is panel of women with big fancy jobs" and a bunch of range rover mummies giggling over white wine and wearing pink and purple suits, it's kinda frustrating
i do have a theory that daisy cooper would be good in a scrap, she's got that dawg in her yk
labour potentially gaining 209 seats is actually insane
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ope
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20 quid labour actually manage to keep the same PM for five years
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They seem to be stable at that
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how does one become a returning officer?
also since when is Andrea leadsom a dame, and also why?
Ooh
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Sunderland's declaring
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that reform number
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slightly worrying
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I'm glad labour got it, but fucking hell
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yeah honestly
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Think Belfast's 4 seats are due around 2-4am
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yeah, I think hertsmere is predicted around a similar time
"let's talk to Jacob Rees-Mogg" do we have to?
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I don't want to see or hear anything from this haunted pencil looking mother fucker
blyth are declaring
or are they
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seems like they're just having a lark in a circle
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that's some pretty good circle game
BLYTH TIME
that's quite a hat
how does one become a returning officer
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the hat and glasses combo
i think they just pick whoever feels like it from the council
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does the returning officer do anything else but read out the things
again, a disgusting number of reform votes
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labour hold but still fuck off reform christ
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I think reform might have succeeded in splitting the right wing vote...
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I refuse to believe Andrea leadsom has ever been to a pub
she wouldn't go to a public house
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sounds like my mum doing her telephone voice
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Jeremy Vine's in cyber space
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jeremy vine somehow manages to have a punchable voice
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he doesn't hold a candle to his brother in any way
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not even close
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jez is very agile though
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doing hopscotch on that chart
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my only hope is that lib dems steal more of the tory seats than fucking reform
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he didn't press his pocket square
this man is talking so much but saying nothing
andrea leadsom keeps saying "the conservatives haven't been conservative enough"
you fuckin wot
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can't be conservative when there's nothing to conserve
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andrea leadsom keeps saying "the conservatives haven't been conservative enough"
I went wait what
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yo whys itv got like and all star cast
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Ed balls, Nicola sturgeon, george Osborne
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Reform’s results scare me
I know that they were going to steal Tory votes but damn
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channel 4 has odd couple Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell, but they've also got nadine dorres - who I'd kinda thought had been banished to the oubliette
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he's saying reform voters aren't racist, considering how many people vote almost blindly he's got a point
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channel 4 pundits are trying to get Alistair and nadine to spill what tony blair's been texting them both
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he's saying reform voters aren't racist, considering how many people vote almost...
Fair point
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people unknowingly voting for that is even more depressing honestly
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Agreed
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that mic coming in hot
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aw sadiq khan just referred to Ed millaband as one of his best friends
Newcastle declaring
another labour hold
another reform in second 😬
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reform have defo stolen so much of the tory vote
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word on the street is that jeremy vine has the swing-o-meter
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it's on it's way
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they've given him so much space to roam
also, side note, I'm getting gradually more inebriated as this goes on, I work at 11am tomorrow so it's aight
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they're just showing the safe thing over and over in different ways
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also, side note, I'm getting gradually more inebriated as this goes on, I work a...
honestly i should be doing the same
i'm on my own though so can't be doing that
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when my dad goes to bed ill he on my own lol
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got the cat on my lap tho
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see that feels better long as you start drinking when there's people around
that's like a free pass to keep drinking all night
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from what I've heard about Jeremy corbyn on a constituency level is that he is exeptional as a local politician
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he seems to be in his element in a hands on environment
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'unwrap a banana'
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I saw him speak at a music for a ceasefire event back in January and it was excellent
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it's a shame that labour can't seem to win with somebody like that leading
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and I got to see lambrini girls and enola gay
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might have to get out and celebrate tomorrow night
if things continue
those reform votes are putting a bad taste in my mouth though, i really need them to just self destruct in scandal
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we're nearly three hours after polls closing and there's only 6 seats declared
I could do this quicker smh
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another reform in second 😬
Aye it’s concerning
If PR was used Reform would have gotten more seats
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part of me thinks why can't they just count tomorrow
Aye I agree I want to head to bed
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If PR was used Reform would have gotten more seats
i'd like to think with PR people would vote differently
would actually be able to vote for people like green
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HAT LADY IS BACK
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WOOO
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yoo
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have to wait two and a half hours still to make sure lib dem take guildford and then i can go to sleep
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I might hit the hay
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and we're there
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No more Tories in wales
DUP has been hit HARD
They lost Lagan Valley and South Antrim
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yoooooo 4 greens and 6 independents
that's fucking massive
and yet I'm still stuck with oliver dowden 
I'm gonna send him a weekly round up of things I'm annoyed about in british politics
he does work for me in a way
rees-mogg lost his seat 
Keir's House of Not-Quite-Horrors
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Keir had the sense to wait for a gap in the rain for his speech
already a 10x increase in common sense
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BIG UP JEZZA
Fella took one look at labour and said alright I'll do it myself you cunts
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Boris resigned 2 years ago
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eddie boy really ain't fuckin around with his new job and i love that for him
guy has gone full send on his love of clean energy
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Keir said: United ireland
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they're giving me genuine hope and it's a weird feeling
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and we're a country with a deputy pm from a working class background who's pissing off tories by just existing, has strong convictions and decent policy and is a real fitty
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she is as well
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It's so fun
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Can't find the video right now but Gavin Robinson was talking about something in Londonderry and there was an echo in the background that said derry
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alright gang, who do we least hate the most?
@native fractal @neon mantle @hidden glen @mighty pivot @still jackal
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They can all suck my cock
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oh good fucking christ
i know i hate rishi and barely know anyone else
woman on the top right looks familiar
right
fuck it
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I think there was one that wasn't explicitly a TERF
and I suspect that one's already gone
IDK, they can all hang for all I care
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Penny Mordaunt because people on the Tory right are convinced she's a liberal for not being as transphobic as the others, so she's most likely to push away socially conservative voters. But on the other hand, having one that was pro-Remain would make the "Labour secretly wants to join the EU" attack line seem a lot weaker
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Penny looks like she could break my legs
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mordant drops transphobic dog whistles instead of being like an outspoken transphobe
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honestly it's too hurtful for me to keep up with
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Penny Mordaunt because people on the Tory right are convinced she's a liberal fo...
i thought tugendhat was the one they were pushing as a moderate
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I haven't heard much about Tugendhat
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doesn't wear a hat smh
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no one has lol
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Someone moderate will push socially conservative voters towards Reform and the miscellaneous far-right (or even towards Labour if they're economically left leaning) while also dividing the party
If they're anyone other than Sunak and they repeat the tax cut line they'll also probably get the idea of Tories being interventionist out of people's heads and they'll think that's a good thing
Even though the government's popularity stemmed in part from being (inaccurately) perceived as more interventionist and less economically ideological than usual Tory governments
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honestly, with this race i could have settled for hunt
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is anyone but sunak feasably going to get anywhere
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Kemi Badenoch out here proving she was poorly suited for her previous job
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lol
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is anyone but sunak feasably going to get anywhere
this was the vote prior to tonights debate
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oh good
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is anyone but sunak feasably going to get anywhere
Sunak won't win the membership vote
Grassroots Tories don't view him as sufficiently fiscally conservative
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the term grassroots tory feels like an oxymoron
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if grassroots is the grassy field in their private school
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the term grassroots tory feels like an oxymoron
There's not many of them
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so if there arent many why does their opinion matter much in a vote
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if grassroots is the grassy field in their private school
in the fields of wheat
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because they are the only ones who can vote and there's still more of them than there are Tory MPs
even if it's only 100,000
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oh joy
my opinion here is useless because i see tory and hate
i know nothing of most of these people
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i want a ge so bad
it feels statistically impossible that i can't find one tory who i don't despise
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We won't get a GE 💩
Not unless the incoming leader calls one, which is extremely unlikely
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it is peak labour for the tories to be utterly hopeless and somehow even keith doesnt look very useful
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Sure, you can have more corruption, sleaze, and neoliberalism... or you can have what's in this mystery box!
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he is literally just some bloke
how have i managed to have 0 confidence in that man too
peak ice
neoliberalism is a cancer
native fractal
that is a combination for 2 words i dont understand
why is the bloke from the matrix a liberal and what does that mean
mighty pivot
I didn't say he was a liberal, I said he was the mystery box
mighty pivot
I remember recently he was asked if he was a Blairite and responded with a literal Blairite soundbite
peak ice
i'd vote for a neolib over a tory but i wouldn't be best pleased
mighty pivot
just don't invade anywhere Keith
peak ice
i'm not best pleased by my voting options generally
mighty pivot
imagine living somewhere the Lib Dems are relevant unironically
peak ice
imagine living in a green constituency
mighty pivot
imagine being able to afford to live in Brighton
native fractal
imagine living somewhere the Lib Dems are relevant unironically
in 2010 lib dems were the closest we had to a candidate against the tories
peak ice
iirc greens almost stood a chance getting a seat somewhere in bristol last ge
mighty pivot
imagine living in the deep south
mighty pivot
iirc greens almost stood a chance getting a seat somewhere in bristol last ge
The Greens have been irrelevant everywhere except Brighton since 2015. No matter what they say or how many bar charts of EU elections they pull out of context, they never stood a chance of gaining any additional seats anywhere in 2017 or 2019. Bristol West was a three way marginal, when they came second. But the Corbyn wave ensured they wouldn't be able to build on that
native fractal
well corbyn gave me some belief that perhaps someone gave a shit
i put more of my energy into the greens after he left
peak ice
fptp voting really does fuck shit up
native fractal
but i can frankly say i'm more focused on kicking out tories than i am voting for who i align with best
mighty pivot
i put more of my energy into the greens after he left
The Greens aligning more with the Lib Dems under Corbyn and their insistence on "tactically" supporting Lib Dems even where it made no sense for them to do so actually made me resign from the Green Party
native fractal
i always aligned the greens and corbyn plenty more
mighty pivot
Also worth noting that they've been having a massive internal row with trans rights
peak ice
i don't care for political parties as a concept so i've never been a party member
native fractal
that does sound properly bizarre with the greens siding with lib dems who cant decide if theyre left or right
is there really much more to care about other than a group of cunts who do a job
there'd be about 3 hours of voting otherwise
still jackal
great fun having every party AFAIK having a big argument to decide if I get rights
I did like the Green council candidate in the last election in my area
I think labour won here for that one, which I didn't mind at all
mighty pivot
that does sound properly bizarre with the greens siding with lib dems who cant d...
They're both middle class parties demographically speaking, and a lot of them are ex Lib Dems who would have joined under the coalition. Essentially the Greens when I was a member had popular policies that Labour and the Lib Dems had abandoned, so they were united when the Lib Dems were in the coalition and Labour was led by Ed Miliband but after Corbyn came along and the Lib Dems went back to being in opposition it felt like the cracks started to show
native fractal
lib dems seemed to swing the other way as corbyn swung left
i guess i dont know a whole lot about greens, i always assumed their environmental views put them more left than labour these days
mighty pivot
They theoretically are in terms of policy
But if they were bigger and had more power, I suspect a lot of people would grow disappointed with them
peak ice
great fun having every party AFAIK having a big argument to decide if I get righ...
the women's equality party are trans friendly afaik, but they've not been centring it in their campaigns so much
native fractal
what baffles me is the nuance that there is plenty more to a party outside of the policies they promise
and it seems that even they dont hold much if you give that party power
mighty pivot
In Lancaster their council leader was rather suspiciously voted in by Tories, and in Brighton they were deeply unpopular in local government, partially because of their poor relationship with organised labour, and partially because they ended up making cuts to the city budget after asking the government very nicely to be exempted from local government cuts only for the government to unsurprisingly say no
Caroline Lucas mostly wins re-election on her personal label
It'd be interesting to see what happens to the Greens when Caroline Lucas eventually retires
The story in Lancaster gets weirder, the Tories voted for the Green to lead the council but didn't join the administration
it's a Green/Labour/independent coalition with LD support
peak ice
i wish the right were better at being separatists
mighty pivot
i wish the right were better at being separatists
hidden glen
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I hate them all equally
I feel rishi is gonna get it tho but idk
peak ice
he is currently polling highest
tawdry socket
This feels like the best out of a bad bunch situation
peak ice
that's the story with all tories honestly
tawdry socket
I feel like a good few of these Tories were once labour but decided to move
Apparently being a Tory would allow one’s political career to progress faster
native fractal
well somehow the country keeps voting for these thundercunts so it makes sense if you join them you actually get to do a job
hidden glen
This feels like the best out of a bad bunch situation
Except rishi is the worst of the worst
peak ice
idk there's still an outspoken terf in the mix
hidden glen
Which one
peak ice
badenoch
hidden glen
The irony of it is still fucking shocking
hidden glen
Yea she's scummy
neon mantle
peak ice
why do the tories think thatcher is the way to hold on to their working class and northern voters?
she didn't do much good for anyone
native fractal
I didn’t know it was a good idea at all to target someone so insanely polarising
What is the tories obsession with thatcher?
peak ice
she's their big mommy dom
native fractal
She looks like she should host the weakest link
peak ice
my mum met the guy who does the voice over on the weakest like on Thursday, bc he was announcing at a graduation she was at and he had to rush off at the end because he was going to record something for a leadership election parody
neon mantle
if you guys read chavs ur gonna be scared at the similarities
tawdry socket
Who was the last good Tory PM?
native fractal
Hahahahahahah
tawdry socket
Great name
hidden glen
she didn't do much good for anyone
She helped doctors tbf
So much people have osteoporosis etc. and it's all thanks to her taking away their milk as kids
peak ice
she sold off most of the social housing though
and set back queer rights ten fold
not to mention starving the miners back to work
ruining the local economies of the North and wales
hidden glen
Those lazy miners never did any work though
And yknow, queer rights aren't important because they aren't
Yada yada Margaret Thatcher is the devil incarnate and I hope she's in hell for her evil acts
peak ice
alexa, play kick out the tories by the newtown neurotics
mighty pivot
peak ice
tugenhat late stage lead
neon mantle
peak ice
oh no he was the least worst
tawdry socket
I bet the worst of the worst will be elected
native fractal
hidden glen
Yay for badenoch being gone but ugh rishi
native fractal
So with badonkadonk gone that’s 3 left now isn’t it?
hidden glen
Yep it looks like rishi will be the winner
He's leading by 20
And the last one is tomorrow
native fractal
Could have been closer if I’d known who anyone else was
hidden glen
I'm fuming that rishi is getting elected
The worst of the worst
At least it means Nish will have plenty of material to write
native fractal
Shame, I was hoping she would have been decent
I assume a woman or anyone non white would be more moderate
peak ice
let's be real though, sunak has been doing his best PM impression for like three years now
peak ice
I assume a woman or anyone non white would be more moderate
she described her platform as "anti-woke"
native fractal
Is she a white man in a black woman suit
peak ice
she also has strong negative feelings about gender neutral bathrooms
she's a big ole terf
native fractal
I never thought it was possible
She looks like she belongs on newsround not hating transfolk and being a cunt
peak ice
she also wanted to abandon the net zero goal
liz truss is also pretty terfy with the other two dropping terfy dogwhistles
truss is also just a straight up dim wit
native fractal
Who is sitting in this heat like “fuck those trees”
mighty pivot
I assume a woman or anyone non white would be more moderate
She's the most right-wing of the lot of them
On rhetoric at least
neon mantle
She could’ve bragged about her being the first of many categories of prime minister
neon mantle
peak ice
sunak is definitely preferable to truss
native fractal
surely the absolute best conservative would be "not very fond of them"