Sum 41

[oak lily]

there's a sum 41 thread??? omg how did i not know-

[livid yoke]

What site did you use?

[vivid kraken]

ebay

the cds came in yesterday or the day before though thankfully

the copy i got of does this look infected also came with a dvd which is cool, i havent watched it yet though

ebay can be both awesome and awful for buying cds

[vagrant matrix]

Yeah cross your ts and gouge your eyes I have it on yt watch later I need to watch it

[oak lily]

hi loves, i made a sum 41 server, am i able to post the link here?

[visual sandal]

No I don't think so

[heady pelican]

https://open.spotify.com/album/4XEz0W8iQta4jJi8VdbkNv?si=idvTGsP3RxGi54odS7hilg

I just noticed this

Why is Another Time Around blocked?

Also why is it 6 and a half minutes

It definetly wasn't blocked before

[tender bison]

machine gun is a BOP

[velvet rover]

All killer songs ranked
13. Introdution
12. Never wake up
11. Nothing on my back
10. Rythems
9. Heart attack
8. Handle this
7. Motivation
6. Summer
5. Crazy amanda bunkface
4. Pain for plesure
3. All shes got
2. Fat lip

1. In too deep

[velvet rover]

I love sum 41

[proper fossil]

Yey me too

[velvet rover]

Is it just me or does underclass hero sound alot like fat lip. The riff the lyrics

[heady pelican]

Nah the album is just filled with like uncreative thing

Title track
They use a song as a melody like 5 different times
They just use the melody of the house of wolves chorus once lol

[tender bison]

honestly sum 41 is so consistent that underclass hero is still really good, the title track especially

yes they do demonstrate a lot of their inspirations in a ton of their songs but thats what makes them so awesome

[wet birch]

Only listened to one of their albums in whole so far, and I fuck with them

I really like crazy Amanda bunkface and nothing on my back

[velvet rover]

Crazy amanda bunkface is great

[heady pelican]

ive grown off underclass hero more and more

Like it just comes off as so just bleh

It used to be my favorite now it's easily my least favorite and I don't even like it

[tender bison]

Yeah ofc it’s not they’re best. Imo that’s chuck because it blends my favorite music styles together and compared to that underclass hero is just a blink album but its still good

[heady pelican]

i havent listened to any of their albums in a year (i grinded for fmbot globals then kinda stopped lmaooo) but if i had to rank them uh

1. Chuck (2004)
   Favorite Track: Some Say

2. Screaming Bloody Murder (2011)
   Favorite Track: Sick of Everyone

3. Does This Look Infected? (2002)
   Favorite Track: Noots

4. Order In Decline (2019)
   Favorite Track: Heads Will Roll

5. All Killer No Filler (2001)
   Favorite Track: Rhythms

6. Half Hour of Power (2000)
   Favorite Track: Second Chance For Max Headroom

7. 13 Voices (2016)
   Favorite Track: 13 Voices

8. Underclass Hero (2007)
   Favorite Track: Speak of the Devil

[heady pelican]

yeah makes sense i just really hate underclass hero tbh

[tender bison]

Noots is on chuck I think

[heady pelican]

o

yea i meant hooch

get them mixed up

[rose rover]

spotify is slowly forcing me to like fat lip

that chorus is pretty fun

[hexed sandal]

Fat Lip is an amazing song

[rose rover]

it's got a good fuckin melody

it kicks ass honestly

i really gotta check out more by sum 41

[hexed sandal]

You totally should!

[rose rover]

i've heard a good few tracks by them thanks to spotify's autoplay (which, gods bless spotify autoplay it's helped me get a grip on my music listening habits and just let things happen)

[normal harness]

what's a beginner friendly song by sum 41

they're the one punk band who rejects simplicity lmao

[tender bison]

Probably in too deep

[velvet rover]

All shes got, in too deep, makes no diffrence, underclass hero

[heady pelican]

in terms of what

Like a song to get someone who isnt a fan to get them to become a fan?

Or something thats easy to play musically?

[normal harness]

thanks

[normal harness]

Easy to play musically

[velvet rover]

All she got is pretty easy

[balmy knot]

pieces is quite easy

[proper fossil]

with me is very nice

[amber spear]

you ain't ever heard of the dead kennedys or the clash lmao

or rkl (rich kids on lsd) or cigar

[velvet rover]

sum 41 chuck is my favortie sum 41 album

its fantastic

the chorus's thoughout the album are so good

Some say, im not the one, no reason, angles with dirty faces

[tender bison]

facts dont forget open your eyes tho

[velvet rover]

Open your eyes is fantastic

[hexed sandal]

They're breaking up 😭

[hybrid drum]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cr_IXowLgjO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

deryckwhibley

Likes

6892

Instagram

Post for it

[tender bison]

WHAT

[ebon trellis]

WHAT THE FUCK DUDE

IM GONNA CRY

[velvet rover]

NO NO

WHY

[willow spindle]

rip to a group of legends

[tender bison]

probably because touring is a lot mentally. some of them have kids, especially deryck

[wet birch]

Aw man

I literally just started getting into them

[velvet rover]

Same

[ebon trellis]

yeah but im still very sad. they're a major part of my childhood and i'll probably never see them in concert

[tender bison]

they could reunite when their kids get older

either way im gonna stream the hell out of heaven ❌ hell

lol

[carmine wasp]

Rip

[carmine wasp]

Same

[velvet rover]

My favorite sum 41 album is chuck

[tender bison]

mine too

[ebon trellis]

13 voices for me

[velvet rover]

Do we know when there newest album is coming out

[tender bison]

no

[proper fossil]

This guys going to disbanding sadly :(

[mystic yacht]

Crash is amazing

[mystic yacht]

FR

[mystic yacht]

crash should be on that list

[tender bison]

Never heard it. Also that’s my old top 10 lol

[mystic yacht]

oh lol

crash is from screaming bloody murder

[tender bison]

oh, ive been listening to the first 4 albums thats why i was confused

[mystic yacht]

oh
the first 4 are legendary to be fair

[tender bison]

theyre whole discography is great i just havent listened to screaming bloody murder and beyond front to back yet

[mystic yacht]

oh okay
sbm is their best of late

[drowsy bone]

New Sum 41 song dropped https://youtu.be/P1Oop1aaiUQ?si=xICSVp4QQ3__MwdD

[sudden moat]

IT'S SO GOOD

I especially dig the verses

[mystic yacht]

😭🙏

[hexed sandal]

The new song ❤️

[drowsy bone]

The music video for it is also dropping in 1 hour and 30 minutes

[proper fossil]

idk if i should cry or be happy because theyre putting out a new album BUT ITS THEIR LAST ONE

[mystic yacht]

WHAT

[tender bison]

unfortunately sum 41 is breaking up at least for the time being but based off this song it seems like they'll go out with a bang

[mystic yacht]

Landmines could easily make it in the top 10

[tender bison]

idk yet but maybe

[mystic yacht]

i predicted it

let's go

[proper fossil]

I'll miss this band

[frail blaze]

What album should I listen too first

im thinking Chuck or dose this look infected but idk

[drowsy bone]

I would recommend all killer no filler

[ocean spruce]

fr

[sudden moat]

If you like American Idiot or 21stCB, I'd suggest "Underclass Hero"

[frail blaze]

k ive herd like 1 deep cut from it

[mystic yacht]

same

[drowsy bone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tc4i31eWB0 another new sum 41 song dropped

[proper fossil]

song goes hard.

[tender bison]

halo 4 ahh cover

[rancid copper]

all sum 41 songs are good

my first songs i listened to by them were fat lip and motivation on all killer on filler

and i still love em

[fluid needle]

[ashen siren]

https://open.spotify.com/prerelease/0Lq7B0qyQoYyPYNq3SgW55?si=vpJlDrciT1e2MlaEm0X-2A heaven x hell releasing soon

[ashen siren]

(its out now)

[mild fulcrum]

it’s

not great

[neon shell]

Listening to it right now

[ashen siren]

album cover looks shit but the songs are good

[rancid copper]

Been waiting for the new album and it’s fire

[ashen siren]

ye

[velvet rover]

Heaven and hell is better then chuck and all killer

[rancid copper]

Nah

All killer no filler is their best by far

[ashen siren]

Chuck is superior

[hearty wasp]

exists wtf

[hearty wasp]

rip heaven or ohio

[limber brook]

[torn jetty]

i am so using this forever

I love Sum 41

[ashen siren]

[ashen siren]

screaming bloody murder

[slate meteor]

cause im in too deeppp

[halcyon delta]

sum 41 mentioned!!

[ashen siren]

happy birthday to aknf

[ashen siren]

superiority

[torn jetty]

Can't wait to see Sum 41 live in Ottawa on January 24th

I hope they play Machine Gun

[fluid needle]

Dude the sums is better than Sum 41 smh

But nothing tops

[velvet patrol]

uhh hell naw

[ashen siren]

its official, cum 41 has won

[torn jetty]

every sum 41 song (up to Order In Decline) ranked

Spent a good 2 hours on this

[velvet patrol]

lmao all my favs are in B tier

[lucid hawk]

now wait a min pain for pleasure honestly kinda bangs tho

i do have famously low standards

i think

and i know its a joke song and all

but i mean

its funny for what it is

[torn jetty]

I have listened to P4P a ton.

It's not good.

The bass is weird, the vocals are fucked, and it just doesn't hit.

[torn jetty]

let me guess, DTLI fan?

[velvet patrol]

Ny favorite albums are Underclass Hero and Heaven x Hell

[torn jetty]

aight that's pretty valid

I'm curious what people think, it's pretty new, what's the proclaimed "best of heaven x hell"?

I think it'd be:
Waiting On A Twist Of Fate
Landmines
Dopamine
Radio Silence
Rise Up
Stranger In These Times
Over The Edge
You Wanted War

[vagrant crane]

Johnny Libertine should be on there imo

[velvet patrol]

nevermind i listened to screaming bloody murder thats now my fav sum album

[torn jetty]

That's one of Jason McCaslin's favourites, too. You got good taste. Favourite track?

[velvet patrol]

probably What Am I To Say

[torn jetty]

That was the first one I gave a crack.
Personally I love Holy Image Of Lies.

[velvet patrol]

yess i love that one too

[ashen siren]

blood in my eyes and skumfuk is my fav

[tender bison]

Chuck is my fav

[torn jetty]

That's the fan favourite

Any particular song from Chuck that strikes your fancy?

For me it's Noots.

[tender bison]

88 and noots

[lucid hawk]

imo Dopamine is just alright, would definitely replace it with Johnny Libertine or I Can't Wait

[torn jetty]

I can't wait is slop

Dopamine is very charged and is pretty meaningful

Johnny Libertine is fun but it has very little to it.

[lucid hawk]

I can't wait slaps*

its prob because i just like to turn my brain off lmao

[torn jetty]

Exactly

it's slop

It's just Sum 41 playing, which on one hand, is good because they're a good band.
But you can tell that it definitely was an amalgamation of songs that were not cooked enough to release.
Probably from AKNF and Half Hour era.

[torn jetty]

I hope there is a Heaven X Hell b-sides album

even if it's just acoustic versions, it'd be cool.
though some extras that didn't quite make the cut would be great

[rancid copper]

Heaven x hell feels so repeated idk

All the riffs and "catchy" lines feel like deja vu

Idk i just get a feeling like ive heard it before

[velvet patrol]

Sum 41

[ashen siren]

[fluid needle]

Sum 69 is nice but still is waaaaaaayyyyyyy superior

[ashen siren]

the sums is better than sum 69

[velvet patrol]

guys whats your favorite sum album

[ashen siren]

screaming bloody murder and underclass hero

[velvet patrol]

Same

[torn jetty]

G'day lads! I found out Dopamine from Heaven X Hell is not very favourably looked upon by many Sum 41 fans, what do you guys think?

[velvet rover]

Love it

Stranger in these times is the best haven x hell song

[velvet patrol]

eh i dont like it that much

[ashen siren]

https://youtu.be/-UmdNOcul3c?si=99gwEydOMWnmKI5y

[rancid copper]

Its alright

[torn jetty]

Best image of Cone frfr

[velvet patrol]

real

[torn jetty]

Hello Skumfuks! I'm wondering if anyone had an opinion on the bridges in Rise Up, I think the bridge at 1:10 is way worse compared to the bridge at 2:09, any other opinions?

[slate meteor]

me

[torn jetty]

G'day again fellas, I'm actually wondering about something, Sum 41 does song sequals pretty often, how many songs do you believe are connected? I'll give some examples:
What we're all about - Fat Lip
In Too Deep - Underclass Hero
Baby You Don't Wanna Know - Heads Will Roll
T.H.T - Never Wake Up - A.N.I.C
Dear Father - Never There
Fake My Own Death - Stranger In These Times.

[mild fulcrum]

i’d say waiting on a twist of fate-bad mistake

[torn jetty]

those two are not even slightly alike

[mild fulcrum]

most of the songs you said aren’t either 💀

at least the one i said directly mentions the other

[torn jetty]

it's not about direct references it's more their inherit style.
In Too Deep and Underclass are both headlining pop punk songs described as "jumping songs"
What We're All About and Fat Lip are both Rap Rock songs dedicated to showing what Sum 41's style is
Baby You Don't Wanna Know and Heads Will Roll both are rock and roll songs with a clapping track in the back.
THT Never Wake Up and ANIC are a trilogy they play live, you can look it up.
Dear Father and Never There are both about Deryck's father, moreso his lack of one.
Fake My Own Death and Stranger In These Times because an unusued 13 voices riff was reused in the song that was meant for Fake My Own Death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcjRox5Q0kU

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OFGYImgv-4Q

[mild fulcrum]

that’s not what you said, you said songs you believe are CONNECTED

i’d say using the same lyric for a chorus connects them quite well

[torn jetty]

Semantics.

My examples make it clear I meant style and genre.

I see how on face-value reading that makes you think that, but don't understand how you read the examples and still think that's the meaning.

[mild fulcrum]

your only link for underclass hero and in too deep is they’re “jumping songs” while your link for dear father and never there was the topic of deryks father, my link was the topic of the twist of fate, WOATOF is the before , and how he can’t spend forever waiting for change, where as bad mistake is the latter, after all that time spent, and how it doesn’t end up well for him, and ends up being a bad mistake, if you’re gonna link dear father and never there based off their topic, you then can’t say that the 2 i said doesn’t work either

[torn jetty]

while I forgot to elaborate, the similarities about Dear Father/Never There for further than WOATOF/Bad Mistake. The topics are the same, versus you thinking the topics sequence after each other, that's different. Even after listening to Bad Mistake, I do not understand how these sequence together well enough to consider them sequals.
Waiting On A Twist Of Fate seems to be about a punk kid waiting to his life to finally change from what I see people understanding the song as.
Bad Mistake seems to be about a relationship gone bad, with some choice badly effecting the two.
And to add to the link between Dear Father and Never There, they're both similar in genre, a ballad. Bad Mistake sounds western, while WOATOF is a speed metal and pop punk blend, they sound nothing like, quite honestly, being on the same record got me confused.

[velvet patrol]

Underclass Hero

[ashen siren]

Speak of the Devil

[sudden moat]

I just realized that the chorus of The Jester is basically "Mama" by MCR

And the verse of No Reason is "One Step Closer" by Linkin Park

[heady pelican]

ive always said it was the house of wolves chorus

[torn jetty]

The opening of Heart Attack and What's My Age Again? Are pretty much the same.

[torn jetty]

It is death how there wasn't another album or even original B-side in Order In Decline's style.
All Order In Decline's writing left-overs were reused for hell, with a little bit of 13 voices sprinkled in there, and don't get me wrong, I love hell, it's fun and unique, but nothing will ever sound as good and be as good to me as Order In Decline just for how good its base sound is.

[velvet patrol]

I don't like OID a lot that might be an unpopular opinion😭

[torn jetty]

Order In Decline's public perception is a bazar case.
It did bring a different, more metallica crowd to Sum 41's fanbase who never even heard of In Too Deep, it did also alienate a lot of other people who were there some hard rock or pop punk.
While there were some people, like me, who love all 3. Even if I put metal above all else.
Objectively, the album is well produced, refined, and well-made. But if you don't like it. That's fine.
Really, it's personal preference.
I thank Order In Decline for breathing a new kind of light into Sum 41, while I do feel sympathy for people who like other albums and not Order In Decline.
It seems to be liked more than it isn't though, so I guess ur in the minority, though I don't think anyone will be that pressed since it is very different from everything else they've made, including 13 voices.

[velvet patrol]

I don't like the heavier sound a lot except for a few songs like Out For Blood

And Never There is my favorite from there

[sudden moat]

Oh yeah i confused those two mcr there for a second, you're right

[heady pelican]

I think some ppl dislike it because of its themes of the US government of 2019

Now granted far from the first time they discussed politics

But wasn't as strong or as outward as oid was at times

[proper fossil]

I love Never There, it's so relatable and means so much to me ❤️

[torn jetty]

Such a beautiful song, I love how in the later records Deryck was more willing to touch upon his personal life and struggles in the hopes it'll reach and help others.
Dear Father from Underclass Hero is the about the same topic too, the Dad Deryck never had. Never fails to bring a smile to my face to see people enjoying my personal favourite album by Sum 41.
Hope all is well for you. 🙏

[velvet patrol]

I love Dear Father

One of my favorite songs

Underclass Hero is like my 3rd favorite album of all time though so I'm very biased

[proper fossil]

Yeah, Dear Father also speaks to me in that regard

[torn jetty]

Congratulations Skumfuks!
For the second time this record we've hit Number One on Rock Radio for Heaven X Hell!
This hasn't happened this since Underclass Hero.
The band has stuck a cord with Heaven X Hell, I'm extremely glad to see the world enjoying a band so dear to I, and thousands of others hearts!

[velvet patrol]

I relistened to Order In Decline. It's actually a lot better than i remembered

[velvet patrol]

Deeply regret saying this

It's really good

[torn jetty]

That is amazing to hear, Sum 41's heavier side wins again!
What's your notable tracks?

[velvet patrol]

The New Sensation and Catching Fire are probably my favorites from the album now

[torn jetty]

The music video of catching fire made me straight up cry,
The new sensation's opening drop is an experience.

[hoary gyro]

Hi

[ashen siren]

happy birthday to underclass hero

[torn jetty]

Ladies and gentlemen of the underclass!
Underclass Hero was poorly received by Sum 41 fans who were worried about Sum 41 sterilizing themselves in favor of popularity.
Now, Sum 41 fans consider Underclass to be a necessary and quite good entry in the band library, a transitional period that brought millions more to the band.

[velvet patrol]

Wow i didnt even know that

Tbh by far my favorite album by them

[ashen siren]

same

[torn jetty]

Underclass Hero has a very unknown B-side named "Take A Look At Yourself"!
It was B-sided due to it being too similar to "welcome to the black parade" by MCR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4y7Hy_taR0
One of my person choices for that album, behind Pull The Curtain.

[mild fulcrum]

it’s very similar to like 3 songs lmaoo

WTTBP, Letterbomb and another

[torn jetty]

yo! I don't believe I've ever heard those, the reason why it was b-sided was the MCR comparison, interesting to hear.

[mild fulcrum]

if we’re talking best unreleased tracks

here’s the winner😌

[torn jetty]

We're the same was b-sided due to how it was too different to the rest of the record, Cone had written it instead of Deryck and they both loved the track, but their label still didn't like how different it was tonally. Good track, Cone approved!

[mild fulcrum]

honestly

it gives me good intro vibes

i get why they thought it didnt fit but still

[torn jetty]

Hell yeah that's what b-sides are for.
They're for songs that don't quite fit the record but the artist believes is good enough in another respect.

[velvet patrol]

oh wow ill listen to that later

Some underclass hero b-sides like that one and No Apologies are region blocked for me on spotify

[ashen siren]

i realised one of the riff sounds similar to american idiot's opening riff lol

[velvet patrol]

It sounds a lot like Letterbomb

[ashen siren]

man overboard and american idiot

[mild fulcrum]

yeah man overboard

but i don’t hear american idiot

i hear letterbomb

[ashen siren]

bridge riff, 2:11

[ashen siren]

this

[ashen siren]

happy birthday to dave brownsound

[torn jetty]

Brownsound's rocky road for a talented man has been triumphant. From starting as the averge skate punk kid making funny accents to being 1# in the span of 1 year along with his partners ending with a Juno award in his possession. After leaving 2005-2016, he returned, only sounding better from his harsh practice as a solo musician, while still to this day that 11 year gap lead to some of the least listened to music I've seen, all ended well, with Order In Decline and Heaven X Hell having some of the best riffs ever made by mankind.

[torn jetty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZub9-hftZs

this is a highly underrated Acoustic Version of Out For Blood, it's amazing in so many ways.

[torn jetty]

Hello skumfuks! this is a compilation of all the Acoustic Versions of songs I could find in reasonable quality, if any of you have found any high quality acoustic versions, do post!

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyFAJpRm2BS__P8d3oiVjuNii3GZKOdL-&si=bC7aC6an9rfF-Dz0

My personal choices are No Brains, Fat Lip, and Catching Fire.

[velvet rover]

I found really well made sum 41 video

https://youtu.be/9XHgjxTg0po?si=Z03Vc_wTRRgnF-ZU

[fair badger]

Y'all gotta be jealous man

[heady pelican]

cone my goat

[green cobalt]

So you LOVE LOVE LOVE Sum 41 but you have a blink profile pic?

[ashen siren]

just need stevo to perform pain for pleasure for the last time

[velvet rover]

Have u seen his youtube channel

[fair badger]

Yes. Because I like multiple bands at the same time

[green cobalt]

Fair

[fair badger]

Yes

I like sum41, blink182 green day ghost weezer avenged sevenfold Radiohead misfits gbh simple plan smashing pumpkins nirvana

[green cobalt]

Nice

[velvet patrol]

simple plan fan spotted!!

[green cobalt]

There's a simple plan thing but no one uses it

Also is the "ø" an LP reference?

[velvet patrol]

No, it was already there before the LP thing

But i also like Linkin Park so it's a nice coincidence

[green cobalt]

I'm excited and scared about it at the same time

[velvet patrol]

All that and it's probably a merch drop or something

[green cobalt]

It's possible, but they've done merch drops and they didn't make this big of a deal.

It's probably a little bit more

I thought maybe a 20th anniversary but they didn't release anything in 2004

[torn jetty]

A homage to the punk rock genre, The Offspring, Sum 41, and Simple Plan all sang the classic "Why Don't You Get A Job?"
Canadian twink Deryck Whibley, Canadian twink Pierre Bouvier, and American twink Dexter Holland all did an amazing job!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcekAUiqmgE

[ashen siren]

[velvet patrol]

Canadian twink Deryck Whibley

[torn jetty]

it's called accurate.

[ashen siren]

storming through the basement like my name was el nino

[ashen siren]

chuck is gonna turn 20 on october 12 this year

[torn jetty]

Chuck! With undertones of African war along with the amazing flavour of Metallica added, the fan favourite album was released to universal praise. (except for music critics but they aren't people). Chuck Rules! Named after the legendary United Nations Peacekeeper that saved them from peril.

[velvet patrol]

i agree theyre not people

like wdym critics like radiohead but hate screaming bloody murder..

[shrewd swan]

Trying to get more into sum 41. Recommend underrated songs fr

[ashen siren]

88

[velvet rover]

Stranger in these times

Rhythms

[torn jetty]

Machine Gun
Heart attack
Hooch
Noots
Take A Look At Yourself
We're The Same
A Murder Of Crows
Heads Will Roll
I Don't Need Anyone

One for every entry.

[torn jetty]

I don't agree with the idea that 88 is an underrated track considering it is one of the most commonly played songs live. Deryck tries to describe the heavy and pop sides of Sum 41 in a single track, hence Motivation/88.

[shrewd swan]

Ty person

[torn jetty]

I'm Scott, professional Canadian, number two Sum 41 fan, and insanely into video games.

Also I know the truth about Avril Lavigne

[torn jetty]

Deryck Whibley used to have a website called Deryckwhibley.net, on the site he loved to share about his partying, antics, and his thoughts, he also posted several demos for songs giving us insight into his brilliant process. One I particularly loved was Open Your Eyes, and for you Underclass Hero fans, you'll find a little surprise at the guitar solo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khIZqZqg4Cw

[velvet patrol]

Count Your Last Blessings

[velvet patrol]

ooh i need to watch that

[velvet rover]

Am i the only one who loved heaven x hell

[torn jetty]

Heaven X Hell is critically acclaimed as one of, if not the single best Sum 41 album to ever be released.
The pop punk leading the old fans back to the bands that made them rise up (pun intended) against the astablishment back when they were 19, and the Alternative Metal pleasing the new fans with energetic, memorable, and unique tracks for everyone to enjoy.

[proper fossil]

my friends is going to their last concert

hi

[ashen siren]

better hope steve makes an appearance at the last concert in toronto

[torn jetty]

According to both Deryck Whibley and Stevo 32 no such plans have been created.
Though Deryck did mention Stevo in an Instagram post like 2 months ago.
Does that mean anything about them meeting up? Doubt it. But it does mean Deryck is not longer allergic to Stevo.
Maybe he'll finally understand Stevo didn't abandon him?

[torn jetty]

Tonight! Sum 41 did something I didn't appriciate.
I personally have supported Sum 41 some of the most out off every human possible, and today they decided they would stream their live broadcast for 20 Canadian Dollars (about 14USD).
This is an insane price for something that you can get and they have given for free on YouTube.
I've bought their CDs, a sweater, plan to go to a live show, and have streamed their music over 50,000 times.
Asking 20 dollars for this is unreasonable and I do not support Sum 41's decision.
But my guess is it's their greedy label and not really their decision.
But if I find that Deryck approved this then I'm leaking the truth about him.

Deryck. Is. Short!

[torn jetty]

Deryck Whibley next to his 5'7 wife, Ari.

[torn jetty]

I love Cone, the man has no idea how to pose for a camera so he blankly stares and its beautiful

He's called Cone because he loves ice cream cones when he was younger, I thought it was because he smoked a fuckload of weed.

[fluid needle]

Short king

[molten inlet]

Seeing sum 41 tonight

[torn jetty]

On the latest episode of Deryck Whibley's Walking Disaster podcast, he talks about he lost a big brick of cocaine at Ozzy Osborne's place in 2001

Now, here is me doing an impression of myself if I was a time traveller from 10 years ago:
Hey guys, did you see how Deryck Whibley almost died? He went on Canadian TV, and he even confirms he only does alcohol and no other drugs, im so glad he's clean on that front. Drugs are terrible!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TibgBjwq1SI&pp=ygUgZGVyeWNrIHdoaWJsZXkgaW50ZXJ2aWV3IGFsY29ob2w%3D

[torn jetty]

This week is a week of Sum 41 history, as Deryck Whibley's new book straight up accuses Deryck's former manager of things I doubt I am allowed to talk about.
Even worse is Greig Nori denying having done anything, claiming Deryck is a liar and they had an entirely normal relationship with no abuse at all.
Keep in mind Deryck was 16, Greig was 34, and Deryck is a hetrosexual man! Great defense Greig, the facts are in your favor. Everyone believes you.
This is something repulsive and disgusting to find out about, and is sending shockwaves through the Toronto area, where I reside.

[opal river]

[torn jetty]

Wow, Deryck's new book is filled with so much! Apparantly behind the scenes during the SBM era, Stevo was quite a bit more rude about the breakup than initially thought. Maybe Deryck was right about saying he abandoned him. Seeing a life long friend go must've been tough. Deryck is such a character, I love him, everything he has done, and what he's created for all of us, thank you, and the book is a gift.

[torn jetty]

Hi again! Here's a list of stuff Sum 41's coming out with

1. an acoustic album
   We do not know what kind of songs that will be released, nor what kind of acoustic they'd be, if that be piano or guitar based or even both.

2. a documentary
   We do not know if it would be a full band history of a Heaven X Hell documentary, either way it's in the works and I hope it includes a ton of stuff.

3. final show
   The final show will be recorded and 5 hours long. w.

4. does this look infected re-production
   Deryck doesn't like Infected's production, so he redid it himself, he doesn't have the right to re-release it, but he said he's trying to, this may not happen which would be a shame consider how banger this would be.

5. cone produces his own stuff
   Not technically Sum 41 related but cone's personal projects are good! He's a cute little twink and show him some love.

[ashen siren]

will the band do a chuck 20th anniversary album

[torn jetty]

No. They don't do that they think it's too corperate. They do tour on anniversaries tho.

[pastel thicket]

I found the sum 41 chat

[green cobalt]

I accidently bought Deryck Whibley's guitar

[velvet patrol]

Acoustic album???!

[pastel thicket]

W?!?

[torn jetty]

Yes!! According to the number one Sum 41 fan (TomiT14) they have an acoustic album but are waiting for the 'right moment' to release it.

[velvet rover]

Whats the best sum 41 song?

Mines walking disaster

[ashen siren]

put the 2 X's

and it'll be good

[severe berry]

Sad the lowest pop punk band of the big 4

It’s gotta be sad to know that no one cares about you, sun 41 is dead and gone you are the anthrax of pop punk

[green cobalt]

There's a dial where the top x would be

[velvet patrol]

My favorite is Count Your Last Blessings

Skumfuk, Catching Fire, Handle This, Dear Father, Jessica Kill and Bad Mistake are some other really good ones

[velvet patrol]

Interesting

[torn jetty]

Best Sum 41 song that be interperated in so many different ways which is why I find this so interesting.
There's the first interpretation which is personal favorite, which I'd have to answer Waiting On A Twist Of Fate, along with it being really unique and created, being Screamo, Melodic hardcore, pop punk, and speed metal all at the same time.
The second is which is on a musical level the most objectively well-crafted song, which I'd have to give to Stranger In These Times due to Deryck contributing that as their best made track, I don't really know how else to judge that.
The third is which has the most mass appeal and majority of people would like, which I'd answer Underclass Hero, I'd say most people would like it. The problem with modern Sum 41 is that it's more specific towards a certain audience due to the vocals, which less people will like overall.
The fourth is which one is the most creative, which I'd give to Holy Image Of Lies for its unprecedented use of a symphony orchestra. Which I'm STILL hoping one day Sum 41 will do a symphony live play like Metallica's S&M.
That's my interpretations.

[fluid needle]

Dude really is chat gpt

[torn jetty]

smart ≠ ai

[velvet rover]

Nice to someone who loves stranger in these times to

[pastel thicket]

I’m inclined to say No Reason

but probably not and it’s just my personal favorite

[torn jetty]

Anyone remember the SK8 X Sum 41 collaboration? Cause I didn't either.
https://open.spotify.com/track/65o2S5n0p31DTFtUzA1i1X?si=2ba8d90d5ce0436a

Here are all the Sum 41 collaborations I knew about, Simple Plan X Sum 41
https://open.spotify.com/track/0g4Nl4tH0jef0wApjV5sfH?si=793092109c624650

Tbh didn't know this one was real until today, but Iggy Pop X Sum 41
https://open.spotify.com/track/27BATZe36zHNAKfr7by2ob?si=4c955ffa8cdd481a

This one actually goes really hard, and I really do hear the Sum 41 influence at the start.
https://open.spotify.com/track/6P3iAX1ofPx6LBNlJX3TWC?si=8be6b0f34a384fc4

[rancid copper]

cap

heaven x hell sounds hella repeated

after all killer no filler and does this look infected alot of sum 41's songs felt like deja vu

the riffs and the lyrics all felt like ive already heard them in another one of their songs

not saying their bad but at some point every band will lose that creativity and they js milk the same phrases/riffs

heaven x hell MID

[torn jetty]

Fighting words, I respect that.
But I am surprised to hear you specifically point out AKNF and DTLI as unique and anything else from that, as directly after was Chuck which a lot of influence from their darker minds after experiencing something so traumatic. AKNF has many repeated riffs, like Heart Attack being What's My Age Again?'s riff.
Chuck is filled with uniqueness, with a little Linkin Park in there. Underclass has some MCR influence and a song was even B-sided because of that, but the idea that influence means stealing is quite insulting and I think really disrespectful to the art. How humans think is we are good are combing two things into one. Deryck probably thought "damn, this emo style would go really well with some of my already written material" And we KNOW it was already written material due to Open My Eyes's original solo being March Of The Dog's riff and Cone also saying Underclass was already well on its way before Baksh left.
SBM was a trauma-filled original piece and I don't even know what to compare it to. Even for that, Cone took more of a writing role, which is why some songs don't sound the same as Deryck's usual writing style which is pretty unique in itself, did you even notice that?
13 voices. Ok yeah that one was widely unoriginal I will concede on that. It's also not an album I like, too.
But Order In Decline being unoriginal to HELL WITH YOU. That has such a unique sound I have been looking for an artist that makes music like that album good HEAVENS please hell me where you find these riffs originate from because I'd love to hear it.
HxH is a lot of old material with some new pop punk. Landmines is their old style, and even includes some non-played sound which I like a lot. And stuff like WOATOF is a blend of melodic rock, pop punk, and speed metal, where have you heard something like that? And the metal they play is pretty fast for Hell, and even has metalcore influence which is a unique position, where's hella repeated from?

[torn jetty]

to continue this, Ludacris did a something with Ludacris because he loves to work with different music to elevate his music, really cool stuff.
https://open.spotify.com/track/2v8nKcigvzHSE8lM24Ab4A?si=6aaaf08412f240a1

[torn jetty]

Hi, my name is Scott, I love video games, poutine, and Sum 41.
I wanted to write this because I found Sum 41 is playing in the city I grew up in, Adelaide, Australia. At 17 I moved out of home alone. Sum 41 was the first taste of Canadian soil before I reached there, and I really appreciate them for that. And now they're coming to the very place I was born. It's nice.

[torn jetty]

A concept for Order In Decline's cover has been surfacing and I prefer it.

[pastel thicket]

Album tier list:

1. Chuck
2. Does This Look Infected?
3. Order In Decline
4. All Killer, No Filler
5. Screaming Bloody Murder
6. Underclass Hero
7. Heaven x Hell
8. 13 Voices

[torn jetty]

1000 years of pain upon your family for HxH being 2nd lowest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1EdHpECeU4

NOOTS LIVE

IT HAPPENED

GUYS

[pastel thicket]

Noots live is crazy

[pastel thicket]

It’s by no means bad it just has to go somewhere

[torn jetty]

yo! I made a video about my Sum 41 streak which ended at 47,000, I'd appriciate it if you sent it some love.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW4dzys7XOI

[rancid copper]

never said order in decline was unoriginal

never said any of their songs were stolen

i very clearly said they felt repeated as in ive heard the same riffs FROM sum41

didnt say i felt like ive heard them else were

just thought alot of their songs (NOT ALL) felt like some others

and a crap ton of bands have thst but i noticed it most in sum41

and i honestly never knew they based riffs/songs off other already made songs cuz im too slow to realize that

[velvet patrol]

It's literally true it is by far their most critically acclaimed album😭

[velvet patrol]

the white border reminds me of underclass hero

[velvet patrol]

also this song is a banger

[ashen siren]

imagine they play pull the curtain live

[torn jetty]

Pull the curtain, being a song about insomnia, being the 2nd song about that, it's considered one of the best off of Underclass Hero.
It's in a strange point, being barely played live due to it being not as popular as the "big three" (being Underclass Hero, Walking Disaster, and With Me), since already enough songs being played off of that album and it not being niche enough to be considered a deep cut makes it unlikely to make an appearance, but far from possible due to their sets being both longer and with stranger choices. Even Noots got repped! And summer's inclusion is a strange one, so maaaybe?? Hopefully.

[torn jetty]

They're so synced

Every member of Sum 41 offers something different.

[molten inlet]

Cone and deryck are my favorite

[ashen siren]

stevo and cone my favourite

[torn jetty]

cone's my choice, even the reason I picked up the bass.

[ashen siren]

what do you guys think is the most underrated sum 41 song that has never been played live

[torn jetty]

Never played live is a small list.
Definitely We're The Same for its very small amount of people who have listened to it.
They've never played: astronaut, WW VII, Reign In Pain, Subject To Change, Take A Look At Yourself, We're The Same, Black Eyes, Better Days, and almost half of HxH

[molten inlet]

I saw that on the Reddit that sick

[pastel thicket]

Subject to change is a banger

[ashen siren]

https://youtu.be/U1jWdpLpRtg?si=_lwrlVOJ_c7JIK_D new stevo vid 🔥🔥🗣

[velvet patrol]

take a look at yourself is a banger

[ashen siren]

the doctor said my mom

[green cobalt]

Same bro

[torn jetty]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4BnFs1EsU3kaN4Kf8DQgs0?si=f244c2698dcf4f39
For those who don't know, Sum 41 almost made a 7 minute song called "Dark Road Out Of Hell", the song would've talked upon the stages of grief and be their most ambitious project. Unfortunately Sum 41's records at the time, being as terrible as they are said the song was "too long", and told them to split the song into 3 parts. Thus birthing Holy Image Of Lies, Sick Of Everyone, and Happiness Machine. I think I would have rather had it the way it is now, but seeing a 7 minute song could've brought new eyes which Sum 41 really needed during 2011. Some of it was reshuffled, so to anyone wondering what the end of Happiness Machine meant when it says "Now I stand at the end of a dark road out of hell". That's what it means.

[pastel thicket]

Did this just say that SBM was bad

Because I wholeheartedly disagree

[torn jetty]

No. Unpopular doesn't mean bad.

Sum 41's lowest point was easily 2011 because they were losing record support, Deryck was dying, and Stevo was burnt out and losing his friendship between Deryck.

The music videos for Blood In My Eyes, Baby You Don't Wanna Know, and the "unoffical" Screaming Bloody Murder video were all funded, edited, and produced by Deryck.

I love Screaming Bloody Murder it's just the band was suffering at the time.

[pastel thicket]

Okay I think I misinterpreted the statement ‘the albums at the time, being as terrible as they are’

[torn jetty]

I see.

[ashen siren]

its funny that the band doesn't celebrate the 20th anniversary of chuck considering the album was released in 2004

[pastel thicket]

Isn’t Chuck one of their best selling albums

It went platinum

[opal river]

this is probably my favorite album cover of all time

[pastel thicket]

Counterpoint:

[green cobalt]

I like the other one more

[pastel thicket]

Idk I can’t take HHOP seriously with that cover

It’s too goofy

[molten inlet]

Who’s the person on the cover

[torn jetty]

Stevo32 is the guy on the cover of Half Hour Of Power

[torn jetty]

They would but they're on their final tour, and they don't like to do anniversary albums because it's too corpo for them.

[torn jetty]

as much as I love Order In Decline's tracks, the Avenged Sevenfold cover doesn't work.

[pastel thicket]

I mean yeah it’s not very sum 41-ey but it looks so badass

[torn jetty]

I actually disagree with it not being sum 41's style, if you look at Sum 41's style, it's more than just pop punk, its pop punk and metal. Its more how there are few colours on a black background, there is no more than just the single focus, which I don't think represents sum 41, even Underclass Hero, while it does have a black background, there is the street behind him, Deryck, and the logo, making a more filled scene which does represent Sum 41.

[ashen siren]

https://tenor.com/view/sum41-pop-punk-spit-underclass-hero-gif-15699450

[pastel thicket]

I think there’s some grammar error stopping me from understanding what you’re trying to say

[tranquil timber]

peak???

[torn jetty]

I rewrote it to better get my point across.

[torn jetty]

Now I usually don't rate usernames but that's a 10/10 my brother

[tranquil timber]

🔥

sum 41 my beloved

[pastel thicket]

Exactly

OID’s album cover is very metal

And doesn’t really represent their pop punk stuff

[torn jetty]

Babe, a fully not-from-some-guys-phone recording of a modern Sum 41 conert dropped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkpm6zFcGTg

[pastel thicket]

Chat

[tranquil timber]

So uhhhm

How do you guys feel about other people’s tier lists of the albums

Stuff like this

https://youtu.be/f3PAlr-pjIU?si=8hKwNApN3_u102pb

[pastel thicket]

I’ll check it in a bit

[ashen siren]

imagine SBM music video (not the current one) gets released

im sure cone still has it

[torn jetty]

I'm assuming you're referring to the SBM music video that was never released that cone claims to have during a Fact Or Fiction interview. This video has been released and is called the Unoffical Screaming Bloody Murder Video.
The current one is this one, so I'm inclined to believe you're mistaken, that video was released.

[torn jetty]

Whenever I try to find music like Sum 41, I always come accross the same issue, it only is music like their first 3 albums, so I took it upon myself to compile some music I think is similar to Sum 41, it gets progressively heavier, and I tried to include some lesser known songs and artists that I think are pretty similar to Sum 41.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3fJIBqO3VqAA7Mz9iG9v7l?si=c9423d8ef81449cf

[tranquil timber]

perchance i will check them out

[pastel thicket]

Thank you Canada man

[torn jetty]

I am very Canadian

[pastel thicket]

I am aware

[green cobalt]

FELLOW SR-71 ENJOYER

[proper fossil]

top of the morning

i really like the sums

[pastel thicket]

I love SR-71

I’m the number one Right Now listener in this server lol

[green cobalt]

They're a severely underrated band

[velvet patrol]

Youre the #1 listener right

At least i thought you werw

[velvet patrol]

Of sum 41 i mean

[green cobalt]

I like how no matter what blink is somewhere in the top five on anybody's I've seen

[torn jetty]

yes, I am. But I only started using Spotify in May so there are people with more listens on Spotify than me, but overall I am.

[velvet patrol]

Blink is 3rd on mine thanks to the California album mostly

[velvet patrol]

ohh

[green cobalt]

But Tom is what makes blink blink

You can't have blink without Tom

And you probably can't have blink without Mark

[velvet patrol]

California is still my favorite work by them

And NINE is up there somewhere too.

[velvet patrol]

Untitled and Enema of the State are certainly above it though

And Neighborhoods

Love all of those

[green cobalt]

My top ones are Untitled, TOYPAJ, and Dude Ranch

[velvet patrol]

TOYPAJ is great too

Not a huge fan of Dude Ranch or Cheshire Cat though personally

[green cobalt]

Cheshire Cat is kinda rough for me but I love Dude Ranch's vibe

[pastel thicket]

Not mine dw

[green cobalt]

Replace weezer with blink and it's good

[pastel thicket]

Fuck blink I can’t stand them

[green cobalt]

Then listen to Box Car Racer

[velvet rover]

Right now was my most played song

[pastel thicket]

Right now was my #5

[pastel thicket]

Three days Grace will pass it anyway

for next year

[ashen siren]

+44

[pastel thicket]

+44 is basically just Blink-183

[green cobalt]

Box Car Racer is undoubtedly hands down with a doubt 100% truly the best side project

[ashen siren]

blink-144

[torn jetty]

blink-88

[velvet patrol]

Nope

Lowk the worst lol

+44 is better

If you count AVA thats better too

And Simple Creatures

BCR is still good though

[green cobalt]

Box Car Racer actually put me in a better place than I was

Without them I'd still be in darkness

Not to sound emo or anything

[torn jetty]

This is my cat, Austin "Whibley" McElroy.

[ashen siren]

new sum 41 member

[opal river]

If we showing our year in reviews

Still can't belive bloodbath at burger King was #2 😭

[torn jetty]

Yfm still makes music?

[opal river]

There was like

A 10 year hiatus

[velvet patrol]

I didnt know YFM was a thing

[pastel thicket]

Opinion: DTLI? is sum 41’s best work

[velvet patrol]

One of my least favorites to be honest

My favorite is either Underclass Hero or Screaming Bloody Murder

Or Chuck even

That 3 album run was incredible

[torn jetty]

opinion, the hasty re-recording of DTLI along with only 6 weeks of writing lead to DTLI being sub-par and is my least favorite album because of its sub-par production.

As Deryck once said "I like it, but I hate the way it sounds"

[pastel thicket]

That’s fair

Especially on a song like My Direction you can hear a bit of bad production

But the songs themselves are some of their best

[velvet rover]

Heaven x hell is underrated/ really good

[velvet rover]

Agree

[pastel thicket]

It’s alr

[velvet rover]

My top 3 sum 41 albums are heaven x hell, chuck, dtli

[velvet patrol]

Is it really underrated when it’s their most critically acclaimed album

It is really good though

[ashen siren]

that would be SBM or UH

[pastel thicket]

DLTI?, Chuck, and SBM are their best works imo

[velvet patrol]

replace DTLI with UH and youre really right

[torn jetty]

I'd agree with Enzo on how Heaven X Hell is by far their most critically acclaimed album.
Order In Decline would makie sense as their most underrated album as it never got any notable awards but it's one of their best works.

their less popular works are SBM, 13 voices, and OID.
SBM got a grammy nomination so definetly not SBM.
13 voices is overall kinda mid, being their 1st metal outing
Order In Decline is the choice imo.

[pastel thicket]

Idk UH has a few mid things on it imo

DTLI is straight bangers

[ashen siren]

afromentioned ma poubelle

but tbf, its not that bad

albeit the lyrics is pretty shit (if translated)

[pastel thicket]

DTLI is all bangers tbh

Hell even ANIC is okay

even if it’s just 35 seconds

[tranquil timber]

idk i consider 13 voices the most underrated

[velvet rover]

Am i the only one who loves when bands do exprimental albums. Meaning songs are very different kind of

For example. Blink-182 self titled. Green day Nimrod. Sum 41 chuck

[pastel thicket]

Depends on how good they do it

Chuck is a certified banger

[ashen siren]

Chuck is amazing

especially the bitter end

[torn jetty]

that song is a homage to "Battery" by Metallica

[pastel thicket]

No Reason is peak

88 is peak

Open your eyes is peak

fuck it everything is peak

[wanton crystal]

i loev sum 41 weehee

[tranquil timber]

Me when the sum is 41

[pastel thicket]

But what if sum 42

[torn jetty]

Sum 41 love rapping, if it be around how they trashed their own house party or how much bacon they have in the morning, they NEVER say no to a rap/rock collaboration, leading to Walk This Way, featuring Sum 41.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHYUqZ2jZlM

[pastel thicket]

this is actually sick

i love that they imitate the aerosmith/run DMC version

[wanton crystal]

i am deryck whibley irl

[green cobalt]

No I am

You're John Lennon

[wanton crystal]

uhmhmhmhmhmh

i am

uh

both

:3

[green cobalt]

We're both Deryck Whibley but you're also john lennon and I'm also Tom DeLonge

[wanton crystal]

wait but

i’m also tom delonge

are we about to create a paradox

[green cobalt]

But I am Tom DeLonge

[pastel thicket]

but im deryck whibley wtf

[torn jetty]

Deryck Whibley has fully recovered from his phuemonia and plans to do the last Canadian tour where I will see them live

https://tenor.com/view/epic-win-yakuza-kiwami-goro-majima-ryu-ga-gotoku-kiwami-yakuza-gif-21981722

[ashen siren]

W

[tranquil timber]

Apparently frank zummo has a yt channel

[ashen siren]

out of all the sum 41 members, zummo and steve has a yt channel

[pastel thicket]

Drummer and drummer

[grizzled cobalt]

[torn jetty]

I listened to so much Sum 41 im literally off the charts

[pastel thicket]

Chat

Canada man has ascended the charts

[torn jetty]

Yeah yeah I'm also American

I got citizenship since I'm married to an American

[pastel thicket]

Nice

[mortal raven]

punkest sum 41 songs?

[ashen siren]

Welcome To Hell

[pastel thicket]

No reason is pretty punky

[torn jetty]

To the very defenition, Deryck Whibley, to make certain people knew that Sum 41 was still a punk band over emo wrote the song "Take A Look At Yourself", entirely being about punk, it was b-sided due to its insane amount of resemblement to Welcome To The Black Parade by MCR. That has to be the answer I give.

[ashen siren]

take a look at yourself feels like letterbomb, WTTBP and american idiot combined

[molten inlet]

Art I made

[torn jetty]

Sum 41 was added to Fortnite, hope some people discover our beloved band through this collaboration

[velvet rover]

Im suprised but fortnite festavel has great songs

[pastel thicket]

In order

What are the best to worst songs from Dark Road Out Of Hell

Personally I’m going

Happiness Machine
Sick Of Everyone
Holy Image Of Lies

[torn jetty]

Happiness Machine
Holy Image Of Lies
Sick Of Everyone

[pastel thicket]

That’s valid

sick of everyone is like

The least progressive of the 3

[velvet patrol]

Holy Image of Lies
Sick of Everyone
Happiness Machine

I like Sick of Everyone about as much as Holy Image of Lies

But Happiness Machine drags on for way too long it gets boring

To me it’s one of the worst on that album

[ashen siren]

Sick Of Everyone
Holy Image of Lies
Happiness Machine

[torn jetty]

After looking back into the fan favourite Screaming Bloody Murder, I have such a deep, immovable respect for Deryck for able to get his emotions out through his music in such a non-petty way. He was very deeply distraught by his divorce with Avril (he was the sk8ber boi) and he was able to get his emotions out in a very meaningful way without ever directly mentioning divorce of Avril, the songs where he indirectly mention her are:
Happiness Machine
Holy Image Of Lies
What Am I To Say
Blood In My Eyes

While that's a lot of the album, he still talks perfectly about the different thoughts, and gets a few screams out, and for anyone wondering, Jessica Kill is a song that does not reference Avril, he says in a few different after-stage interviews that the song is about a large amount of people in co-dependent relationship and at no point did he ever consider him to be co-dependent with her....though I do understand the backing vocals may give the Avril impression.

[ashen siren]

I JUST WANNA FEEL YOU-

[tranquil timber]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-gif-26790713

[velvet patrol]

interesting i never realized these songs are about the divorce

for some reason i thought their divorce was in like 2006/2007 instead of 2009

[torn jetty]

God Final Fantasy VII Rebirth and Sum 41 live in the same week, im gonna literally explode from how amazing it'll be

[pastel thicket]

Is SBM even a fan favorite

[wanton crystal]

i was actually gasping when i say Green Day MULTIPLE times in the shop dude

[torn jetty]

SBM is the fannest-favourite.
The top 3 fan favourites from what I've seen is:

1. SBM
2. Chuck
3. HxH

The reason why I like how it's these 3 is because that means they accept both the old and new from the band, rare.

[pastel thicket]

I guess for hardcore fans I could see it

On popularity alone it’s AKNF, Chuck, and DTLI I think

[torn jetty]

Close!! AKNF, DTLI, Underclass.

[pastel thicket]

Underclass?

[torn jetty]

Never the less (imma dress for the occasion), when considering the deeper fans, it's those 3.

[pastel thicket]

What is underclass certified by RIAA

gold?

[torn jetty]

RIAA is Americans!! Canadians don't like those!!

[pastel thicket]

what did we do to you

[torn jetty]

FYM

[pastel thicket]

us Americans love you Canadians

Yeah no in terms of copies sold it was AKNF, DTLI, and Chuck

[torn jetty]

I don't personally hate Americans, I'm even living with my American boyfriend, but most of Canada has an anti-American sentiment

[pastel thicket]

Chuck sold 1m in the US alone which was more than UH as a whole

[torn jetty]

Oh you mean copies, I was going by amounts of songs that went high on da charts

[pastel thicket]

On charts it was UH, AKNF, and DTLI in that order

[torn jetty]

I'm still pretty convinced HxH will go pretty far and keep the bands relevance for a while

[pastel thicket]

HxH doesn’t interest me that much tbh

I think I’m definitely a heavier Sum 41 kind of person

My top 4 are
SBM
DTLI
Chuck
OID

[torn jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/serial-designation-n-murder-drones-thumbs-up-gif-1658554663038651137

I mean

I disagree

OID
HxH
Underclass
SBM
AKNF

[pastel thicket]

But 13 voices was objectively mid

[torn jetty]

But your opinion is valid

[torn jetty]

okay nvm that's a good take

[pastel thicket]

I love the songwriting of DTLI but the mix and production is not great

[torn jetty]

13 Voices was the angsty teen of Sum 41's discog, while i wouldn't call it bad, I would reckon that it's the weakest of sum 41's discography, with the most nothing-burgers of their discog.
I like A Murder Of Crows, Fake My Own Death, and 13 voices.

[pastel thicket]

fake my own death was good

[torn jetty]

But even comparing Murder Of Crows, it's not even in my top 20 Sum 41 songs.

Also the writing is god awful

[pastel thicket]

I will die on the hill that the hell song is one of Sum 41’s best songwriting moments

[torn jetty]

I don't get how SBM's writing can be SO MEANINGFUL and Order In Decline's hit so hard, yet the album in-between is just bad.

[pastel thicket]

EXACTLY

[torn jetty]

The Hell Song is a brilliantly written song, and the 6-week deadline on DTLI only made Deryck think harder, and luckily the person the song is based on is doing okay.

[pastel thicket]

A lot of DTLI is written great

the main exceptions I can think of is ANIC and No Brains

[torn jetty]

My personal favourite when it comes to the writing is We're The Same, a Screaming Bloody Murder B-side

[pastel thicket]

but ANIC is intentionally not great

[torn jetty]

I don't know why I do it but I quote Sum 41 songs whenever I'm helping someone with their mental issues and more times than not I've helped them

[pastel thicket]

sum 41 got me through straight up depression so I believe it

SBM and DTLI in particular

[tranquil timber]

what about those like uhhh

songs

on the 13 voices b side

better days and black eyes?

i liked those :PP

[velvet patrol]

Am i the only sum 41 fan who does not like Does This Look Infected that much

to me its like

decent at best

[torn jetty]

Better Days is basically unfinished
Black Eyes is amazing and has great writing

[torn jetty]

Actually, I agree! It's my 2nd least favourite (but still in my top 15 albums of all time because sum 41 is the best), I think it has to do with the mediocre production detailed by Deryck:
https://www.kerrang.com/deryck-whibley-on-sum-41s-does-this-look-infected-i-like-it-i-just-hate-the-way-it-sounds

[velvet patrol]

I’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks DTLI sounds

Weird

I like still waiting, over my head and no brains though

[torn jetty]

Valid. I LOVE this live album version of No Brains, it's like double time and they even add some parts that didn't get into the original, and just overall is my favourite.
https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=Wqcln5_Dd1o

[velvet patrol]

I love that omg

I wish that album was in spotify

[pastel thicket]

No brains is my least favorite from that album

[torn jetty]

That's a very unpopular opinion.
A.N.I.C is considered the worst off DTLI

[pastel thicket]

I don’t really count ANIC cuz it’s like

39 seconds long

[torn jetty]

I disagree, song is song.
If someone were to ask me "did Sum 41 make a song called A.N.I.C, I'd say yes.

[pastel thicket]

other than ANIC tho No Brains is the worst

[pastel thicket]

Ah yes my favorite DTLI song

[velvet patrol]

Can we all agree Walking Disaster is one of their best songs

[pastel thicket]

Dude do you see my username

it’s literally in my username

[rancid steppe]

it is

Underclass Hero has some bangers

[rancid steppe]

I have to agree

it doesn't sound great

still my 3rd favorite sum 41 album

[ashen siren]

Imagine Deryck releases the original version of DTLI

And an obligatory fuck Greig

[rancid steppe]

https://youtu.be/mUs5YxG5huo?si=fbAkJtAecP9fITFh

The Bitter End is my favorite song on Chuck

[torn jetty]

I don't like this video for one reason, there is The Bitter End on Master Of Puppets.
It's called Battery.

[tranquil timber]

fuck it

100% ready to be executed for this

btw the tiers are ordered (more left = higher on the tier)

[misty sparrow]

I hate Sum 41

that shit rank af

[torn jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-cat-kitten-gif-25320661

[torn jetty]

Far from uncommon opinions dw

[ashen siren]

i'd place back where i belong to A and sick of everyone to S

[tranquil timber]

Very much understandable

[tranquil timber]

Phew

[velvet patrol]

not a bad ranking if you put happiness machine in C and crash in S

[tranquil timber]

fair enough

anyway!

i did like a shit ton of songs

just rn

btw the tiers aren't ordered like at all

[velvet patrol]

Dear Father in C is diabolical

[tranquil timber]

😔

apologies for the dissapointment...

i like it but i never really have it on repeat

shit i already am seeing some placements i have doubts on

FUCKCKCKC

[velvet rover]

I love seeing people like stranger in these times

[tranquil timber]

how long?

[velvet rover]

Honsetly heaven x hell is way better than one more time

[ashen siren]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[molten inlet]

https://youtu.be/hknDZdlQ0po?si=y59egeKlQp0LK3sx

[torn jetty]

Holy 2016

[torn jetty]

Hello, I get people hooked on Sum 41 like it's cocaine, but I initially came across the problem. "sum 41 has made a lot of music, what do I recommend?"
So I constructed an 8 minute playlist of just 2 songs.
I introduce to you, Happiness Machine/Underclass Hero, designed to get people hooked on Sum 41.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JN2UU5mIgTtNvIr7o0SXT?si=200eafd375ae484d

[pastel thicket]

Tbf

Two of their best

it’s got some of their heavy and some of their pop punk

[ashen siren]

Tmrw's gonna be the last Sum 41 concert (technically the Juno awards is the last but its the last one for the Tour Of The Setting Sum)

[pastel thicket]

Dang

[tranquil timber]

[rancid steppe]

have fun!

[tranquil timber]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn

https://open.spotify.com/album/26Za0QxNESzSbnEkFnGned?si=mB50MzIkSoyhmrR6C_DFxQ

thoughts on this

its a album Cone was in on

[torn jetty]

Operation M.D!!!

Holy shit I forgot about this

Mostly a joke, Operation M.D was a collaboration project with our great Canadian Cone and he says he's open to continuing it after Sum 41's done.

[ashen siren]

Tour of the Setting Sum is officially over

[torn jetty]

It's done.

[tranquil timber]

It’s so over

[tranquil timber]

It got good songs 👍👍👍

[ashen siren]

https://www.youtube.com/live/RWCUonF8OPM?si=G9YE3Dl17i2PYHQa

[torn jetty]

Sum 41 not only works with other artists regularly, but the band members also have worked on a variety of projects, so I compiled by either bands members have been in, produced by, or a remix of their music, here it is.
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7wqhwXADb4pI42csKlZXJz?si=5a1fac0762d84340

[torn jetty]

Less than 1 week without sum 41 im already feeling it

[tranquil timber]

😭

[pastel thicket]

Me too

[torn jetty]

Okay I've had this question for a while, which Sum 41 member do you think is the most attractive?
in my humble opinion, it's cone. But I am curious if i'm alone in that.

[velvet rover]

Its cone

Dereyk has not aged that well.

[rancid steppe]

Cone yeah

[torn jetty]

I actually disagree, being 50 and still moving and looking like that, he just doesn't have that boyish look that cone has sustained. I like both ends, Deryck is still a super good looking guy.

[rancid steppe]

he's doing amazing for a guy that almost died from alcohol

[pastel thicket]

Either cone or brown sound

Dave baksh to me has grown up and looks better now than he used to

[torn jetty]

Majority of these I think people would agree with me, I also think there are some opinions here some people won't agree with. I'm gonna say it outright, I don't think DTLI is very good.

[tranquil timber]

damn, you didn't like twisted by design?

[plain shale]

I have a sum 41 discord if u wanna join :)

Anybody here if u wanna join dm me

[velvet patrol]

War is lowkey the only song on 13 voices i regularly listen to

what did pieces and crash do to you😨

[pastel thicket]

I have many complaints

Why is CYLB not top

Motivation, all messed up, 88, were all to blame, no reason, my direction, and rhythms are all top tier

[torn jetty]

Pieces has no vibe for me, while it talks aboot being a loner, in a depressing way, I can't help but think the song is just too damn fast, I can't vibe with it.
Crash, while having an extremely tragic backstory of Deryck witnessing a car crash and seeing someone die, I think crash is far too simple.

[velvet patrol]

ohh

Crash is simple but i feel like i’ve seen way too many people hate on it, I really like it

I need to do that tierlist

[torn jetty]

Motivation is too loopy.
All Messed Up is too loopy.
88 is put higher for the high highs, but there are some pretty low lows in that song, I do not like it, at least the part in motivation/88 is one of my favourites. On a side note I don't know what the songs name means, it could either mean the Chinese lucky number, or a neo nazi call sign, I think it's the Chinese one but it could go either way with some of the lyrics.
We're All To Blame, tbh, i'd put higher if I went back.
No Reason is overrated. Bite me.
my direction is too loopy.
Rythms is too loopy.

[torn jetty]

I'm curious, I love Exit Song, I think it's Crash but better because it's atmospheric and sounds excellent, what do you think of Exit Song?

[pastel thicket]

Reason to believe is better

[velvet patrol]

i like it but to me it’s the weakest song on SBM

It’s still on my playlist though

All songs on sbm are

[ashen siren]

meaning of 88 is basically the RPM of the song

[torn jetty]

A true testament to how great SBM is.
Not my favourite but a top 3 without a doubt.

[torn jetty]

Sum 41 honors their forefathers, if a Metallica tribute in the form of The Bitter End, or if that be how they honor the king of rock and roll, Elvis Presley in the form of Baby You Don't Wanna Know and it's unofficial sequel, Heads Will Roll.
Rock and Roll was the start of modern rock, where Sum 41 lies.

[tranquil timber]

Peak drawing

[ashen siren]

https://youtu.be/0u_IeNqLuWM?si=89PeLfrSuW2Stpl5

[torn jetty]

That picture did stevo dirty

[proper fossil]

hi

[tranquil timber]

billions

[velvet rover]

Sum 41 Always is better then blinks

subject to change is better than underclass hero

[ashen siren]

true

[pastel thicket]

True

[torn jetty]

I just think the demo versions of Sum 41 in general go really hard and appeal to a more metal audience and I find it kind of crazy they never made an album using their "demo style". Sum 41 albums take a pretty large amount of time all things considered. They pumped them out real quick at the start of the bands history but after SBM there is a 5 year gap between every entry. I think it holds insanely true a demo style album after 13 voices but before Order In Decline would've made sense.

[velvet rover]

I just dont like the verse sections of underclass

[velvet patrol]

true

[torn jetty]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5mMjqL7JI1BQQWBVFevFsN?si=bdf008f8588c4fd9

NEW SUM 41 DROP

IDK HOW

OR WHY

BUT SUM 41

[pastel thicket]

Is this a rage cover?

[torn jetty]

Yessir!

SLEEP NOW IN THE FIIIAH

[pastel thicket]

It’s the song that has the line

“I’m deep inside your children”

Second to last of the first block

[torn jetty]

Rage songs are quite heavy

[pastel thicket]

Yeah

[torn jetty]

To celebrate the greatest Canadian band winning an excellent Canadian award on this fine Canadian day, I made the great Canadian poutine with crumbed chicken. Pure maple leaf gluttony.

[pastel thicket]

The thing about this cover is that I think Deryck is trying too hard to sound like ZDLR

But I gotta give it to Tom and Dave for those guitar tones

Tom Morello’s tones are not easy to cover

[ashen siren]

https://www.youtube.com/live/GOiXwLXHHwk?si=isCVz3Aw4MQuZanI

[ashen siren]

https://youtu.be/QtelUJ7RgvI?si=1BY3bUnZ_2KgqU0b

[velvet rover]

They should have done stranger in these times video

[torn jetty]

I do find it quite strange they decided to make 3 Heaven music videos and 1 Hell video

[velvet rover]

If chuck had subject to change, and always it would be even beeter

[pastel thicket]

Subject to Change feels like No Reason 2 and I think No Reason is a better song

while the song wouldn’t hurt the album at all if left in, I don’t think it’s necessary

[torn jetty]

Always sounds nothing like Chuck, if it had Always it'd be very panned for being too different.
Subject to change is closer but ehhhhh honestly I think that a Chuck demo style album should've been made cuz it's a good and refined sound in its own right

And there are LOTS of demos and even unseen ones, open your eyes, Subject to change, and even we're all to blame partially was shown along with Its All Me from HxH was a Chuck demo

[velvet patrol]

I really think Always should’ve been on Underclass Hero

Even if as a bonus track

Probably their most underrated song to me

[ashen siren]

they should release the bonus tracks on spotify globally

[velvet patrol]

I agree

[lapis blade]

The hell song is high key my favorite song by them

[torn jetty]

The Hell Song is an excellent choice! Being one of their most meaningful songs about a friend of the band contracting HIV, its one of the most commonly played live songs and is touted as the only properly produced song on Does This Look Infected? Excellent choice even though I think there is far better

[ashen siren]

well....

[wanton crystal]

mcr and sum 41 in the same image 😱😱😱👅

[ashen siren]

https://youtu.be/ha7byfEWgdY?si=rgwKOhnru4mwGRXN

[cyan cliff]

sum41

source

https://youtu.be/vaPhcDUL--g?si=papTTMhWlhQAOxRf

[cyan cliff]

does my remaster sound better or worse

[ashen siren]

Happy 12 anniversary to Chuck!

[versed hull]

wait omg sum 41 thread hello

[vestal vine]

hello there

[versed hull]

hello

[old oasis]

what's the best sum 41 in your opinion?

I wanna expand my music taste

[vestal vine]

just to clarify u havent listened to any full sum 41 album right?

[old oasis]

mhm

[vestal vine]

aight bet

[vestal vine]

what music platform u use?

[old oasis]

spotify

[vestal vine]

https://open.spotify.com/album/2UCWsnmZEVg9HhnMeKTsim?

[old oasis]

thanks

[vestal vine]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-great-tobey-maguire-bully-maguire-spider-man-tobey-meme-gif-23971210

[versed hull]

i rlly like chuck

but i also haven't listened to their entire discography yet

underclass hero is cool too and yeah all killer no filler ofc

[white moat]

I like over my head dudes also I’m somewhat late😭

[signal fiber]

Chuck

[versed hull]

yesss chuck is great

saying that as if i didn't say it 5 messages up

[icy cliff]

Chuck is so good

[velvet rover]

Chuck is so peak it's in my top 5 albums of all time

[tough mango]

i hate chuck

underclass hero is where its at

[velvet rover]

WHAT YOU HATE CHUCK

[signal fiber]

[green cobalt]

Is that not the concept of the album?

[tough mango]

wdym

[green cobalt]

Actually no

They love Chuck

Chuck helped them

[tough mango]

what

[raw bear]

my dad turned 41 on friday 🥹

[torn jetty]

Both have some really good tracks tbf, I will give the edge to Underclass for putting me in a better mood every time

[dense shuttle]

honest opinion

[vestal vine]

W lego ninjago

[torn jetty]

AKNF certainly could've been better, out of everything, Deryck Whibley only speaks on regretting the mixing and stands by everything else on the album, which I respect deeply, though I think the idea that In Too Deep is the only hit is wrong. Fat Lip is amazing and Motivation hits the spot sometimes, I do recommend listening to some of the more recent live versions of AKNF songs as they redo a lot of it and I prefer it a lot since they're so much more skilled 20 years after it was released.

[marble zinc]

Everything about this image is amazing Sum41 AND Ninjago??

[uncut bough]

What is their best album?

i'd assume its either chuck or does this looked infected

[wild apex]

Depends are we talking opinion or overall popularity

[uncut bough]

Overall

[wild apex]

Then it would be all killer no filler according to popularity, does this look infected? would be considered the best sounding

[vestal vine]

the second album u mentioned sounds really metal imo except for a few tracks such as "my direction"

[icy cliff]

Chuck has more songs that sound metal to me than Does This Look Infected? to me

[vestal vine]

i havent yet listened to chuck in full yet so idk

[icy cliff]

You should definitely listen to it in full! It's a great album

[vestal vine]

im midway thru it lemme see what song i was at

oh ye i think i was just finishing "some say"

[icy cliff]

I love that one!
One of the songs on that album (The Bitter End) is considered to be quite possibly Sum 41's heaviest song

[vestal vine]

i mightve listened to that song but idk

ive been listening to a lot of blink 182 (ik wrong forum but i just wanted to mention it to explain why i havent yet listened to "chuck" by sum 41 in full)

[mint totem]

Chuck is my favourite album in the English language not by Green Day

[marble zinc]

I honestly really like Heaven :x : Hell and Chuck

[leaden fulcrum]

is nice

[mint sun]

I met Frank Zummo today!

[vestal vine]

this forum be like:

crickets

but honestly tho thats pretty cool

[icy cliff]

That's awesome!

[high phoenix]

Sum 41: Hey Green Day can I copy your homework?
(Homework being american idiot)
Green Day: Yeah sure but dont make it too obvious.
Sum 41:

Jokes aside, this is easily my least favorite sum 41 album

[high phoenix]

Chuck and Order in decline in my opinion

Both are perfect albums

[leaden fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/sum41-gif-7566030

[vestal vine]

https://youtu.be/MfDsYA_OW9k

[knotty scarab]

sum 41 is amazing

[leaden fulcrum]

Yes

[vestal vine]

https://youtu.be/l2Po_BHvLlI

[cursive salmon]

i met the lead guitarist

got a picture with him hes goated

[uncut bough]

Awesome

[cursive salmon]

bro tf does the brick emoji mean

[muted pendant]

someone wanted a sum 41 thread so here's a sum 41 thread

[worthy depot]

I've only listened through Order in Decline and the one before that but I liked them both

[visual sandal]

YES SUM41

[tender bison]

FINALLY

[languid vault]

sum 41 😍

[tender bison]

i only know 2 underrated songs: so long goodbye and there will be blood

[heady pelican]

Lego

[vivid kraken]

does this look infected is such a banger album

[proper fossil]

Yes, but Chuck is a fucking banger too 😭

[vivid kraken]

true

for me chuck is really nostalgic, i remember my older brother used to play 'some say' (or something, ive forgotten at this point since its been a while since i listened to it) a lot in the car when i was really young, and it was sometimes stuck in my head until i actually re-found the song in 2020 or 2021

[proper fossil]

Whouaa incredible

[amber spear]

yeah chuck's amazing

[heady pelican]

chuck is my favrotie album ever os

[tender bison]

chuck is so good but all of their albums are amazing

[proper fossil]

Yesss of course, SUM 41 is a fucking banger 😭💜

[visual sandal]

Dave Brownsound is an amazing Guitarist. And I will stick by that for the rest of my life

[tender bison]

it's kind of cool that they're punk but can shred, do metal covers, and get heavier with their modern songs

[visual sandal]

Exactly

[arctic frost]

dave is really good live

i went to a sum 41 show the guitar solo on in too deep was so much better live than studio

[vagrant matrix]

I think I might see them live later this summer when they come to my city

[tender bison]

they got sold out near me which kinda sucks

[visual sandal]

Fax

[tender bison]

just listened to pieces 😢

probably my fav song by them rn

[heady pelican]

mien is prob sick of everyone

[tender bison]

might give that one a listen soon

[steel quiver]

hell song

[visual sandal]

Fat Lip

[vivid kraken]

my favorite is tied between billy spleen and hyper insomnia para condrioid or whatever its called

[lavish skiff]

Fart

[devout yew]

Never there is top tier

[amber spear]

summer is rly great i think

[tender bison]

facts fat lip is probably my #2 sum 41 song

[vivid kraken]

fat lip is a banger and is the song that got me into sum 41, it makes sense why its one of their most popular songs

[tender bison]

it's so freaking cool how sum 41 has rapping in their songs like that, thrash metal elements in grab the devil by the horns, shreddy solos, and heavier sound as they make new releases

i feel so bad for getting into them so recently i shouldve checked these guys out sooner

[visual sandal]

The way they perform it live is just perfect

Really well timed

[tender bison]

i heard something about a new album?

[arctic frost]

yeah they are making a new album called heaven and hell

heaven will be classic pop punk

hell will be the heavier punk metal stuff like on chuck and SBM

it will most likely release this year and is almost done, however no tracklist or singles or anything is online

[tender bison]

oh dope

[visual sandal]

YES

[vivid kraken]

mfw i ordered a cd copy of does this look infected on june 30th and the shipping tracking hasnt updated in like 12 days

i have like 10 cds that im waiting for (all bought on the 29th/30th) from different sellers (other than 6 cds are in a bundle) and the tracking on all of them hasnt updated for like at least 10 days 😭

[tender bison]

Love that album tho

[tender bison]

sum 41 top 10 because why not

1. Pieces
2. Fat Lip
3. Underclass Hero
4. Hell Song
5. Still Waiting
6. No Reason
7. With Me
8. 88
9. Hooch
10. In Too Deep

[frosty ruin]

No mr amsterdam :(

[tender bison]

you dont understand how hard that was to make

i shouldve put what we're all about from half hour of power

[plucky wasp]

some say 👌

[vivid kraken]

i just re-listened to the hell song for the first time in like a year or so, and god it is literally one of the greatest songs ever. every aspect of it is amazing