Sonic

[atomic topaz]

well as it stands youve played sonic forces on 3 different platforms and i havent even played it

i'd say you're the bigger gamer

[flint folio]

perhaps

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio YOOOOO

[flint folio]

SNOC FORC

AAAAAAAAAA

[atomic topaz]

what is episode shadow

When I went to download the game it told me I could download that along with it

[flint folio]

the best bit of the game lol

it is a prequel free DLC that is 3 levels about the backstory to infinite

and its 3 levels playing as shadow

[atomic topaz]

yoooo that sounds good

[flint folio]

they are quite tough though

so the game recommends playing some of it before moving to that

did you see the first youtube video i posted? that was an episode shadow level

[atomic topaz]

does he have a gun

[flint folio]

no

[atomic topaz]

unfortunate

[flint folio]

well the avatar does

kinda

[atomic topaz]

i bet a lot of people think of shadow as a character that always has a gun because that game has been out for like 17 years

[flint folio]

shadow best character 😤

[visual galleon]

Fixed

Now you’re playing the best Sonic Game

[atomic topaz]

no

[visual galleon]

Yes

Sonic kissing simulator 2006

Lmao

[atomic topaz]

damn quite a gap there

wtf sega

[visual galleon]

Where’s veteran?

[flint folio]

play on hard

[atomic topaz]

is it actually hard

[flint folio]

no

[visual galleon]

So hard is normal

[atomic topaz]

lmao

[flint folio]

absolutely mate

[atomic topaz]

what hahahahahaha

[visual galleon]

Normal is easy

[flint folio]

its easy and normal

yes

[visual galleon]

Haven’t played forces in a while

[atomic topaz]

they were fuckin drunk when they named the difficulties

[flint folio]

what hard is, is how the game should be
normal, you lose 20 rings instead of all of them

its so you dont feel bad lol

[visual galleon]

XD

[flint folio]

i bought forces 3 seperate times, i am very cool

[visual galleon]

Poor kids who haven’t played the genesis games

One hit you lose everything

Or the Advance ones

[flint folio]

oh shit skeet if you do a good enough time ill see you on the leaderboard

[visual galleon]

Man Sonic Advance felt like a proper Sonic 4

[atomic topaz]

is the story worth watching even

[flint folio]

sure

if you're gonna play forces, play it properly

[atomic topaz]

this dialogue kinda sucks

[flint folio]

correct

[atomic topaz]

ok so that "sand" hill opening wasnt bad

[flint folio]

lost valley is a fun level

the levels aren't bad, they're just not amazing

[flint folio]

i played a bit of that, i suck at 2d sonic though

[atomic topaz]

this story is just blatant nonsense

[flint folio]

what is non sensical about it

[atomic topaz]

shadow chaos metal and the dude from lost world just plop in out of nowhere

no explanation

[flint folio]

skeet i hate to point this out but you aren't supposed to know absolutely everything straight away

sometimes it is actually a story-telling trope to confuse you

as much as the story does suck, i will defend that bit

[atomic topaz]

oh my god sonic dies and they go into depressed mode

[flint folio]

see this bit is quite dramatic

[atomic topaz]

it reminds me of avengers endgame

but with cartoon furries

[flint folio]

it makes me wish they went all out with that

[atomic topaz]

honestly that shit actually just made me laugh

[flint folio]

sonic: fucking dies
skeet: 🤣

[atomic topaz]

its not emotional at all

[flint folio]

oh absolutely

its a key moment of "wow this is a hard idea, that you really half assed"

[atomic topaz]

lmao yeah

[flint folio]

i find that throughout the game there are good ideas but half baked

[atomic topaz]

oh damn character creator is like
required

oh

[flint folio]

did you think it was just optional somehow

[atomic topaz]

lowkey yeah, was kinda hoping

[flint folio]

how would that work?

[atomic topaz]

i just wanna be sonic

oh

i see what you mean

[flint folio]

sonic is like 1/3rd of the game

if that

modern sonic/avatar/classic sonic

some levels combine sonic and the avatar

[atomic topaz]

wtf theres a female option

[flint folio]

females exist????

[atomic topaz]

I bet the sonic fan community was just going left and right making rule 34 of their own created characters

[flint folio]

no idea

[atomic topaz]

probably tho

[flint folio]

but, the character creator is cool
but it felt a bit empty for the base creator

[atomic topaz]

i have seen amy stuff

so they put a female option-

yeah

[flint folio]

well why wouldnt they put a female option?

idk why your first thought is rule 34 and not
hey maybe women play this

[atomic topaz]

Because I associate tasteless porn with the sonic fan community

[flint folio]

you do that because its half a meme

[atomic topaz]

fuck im sorry

[flint folio]

there is not really comparably more in the sonic fandom than any other

well, unless you're looking for it

[atomic topaz]

sorry about that

anyways

what species did you pick for your character in this game

[flint folio]

well i played a hedgehog a lot but i liked the bird a lot, for a double jump

each character gives you a small ability

have a read

[atomic topaz]

Oh I didn't notice that at 1st i see it now

[flint folio]

yeah its only minor but its there

[atomic topaz]

So I can just pick a species based on what ability ability I think is the best
That's neat

[flint folio]

Yee

[atomic topaz]

it is kinda lame tho
i just made a purple dog

[flint folio]

I will say the default is pretty shit

But the cosmetics you unlock are cool

[atomic topaz]

Space port level had a cool look to it

The creator character feels kind of weird though

There's something off about the jump

[flint folio]

Yeah it’s very heavy

[atomic topaz]

Overall OK 1st impression

[flint folio]

Neat

[flint folio]

Happy birthday sonic central, can we have another please

[atomic topaz]

surprised you remembered

[flint folio]

Poo

I remember because it was in may and a tweet told me

[atomic topaz]

yeah true that happens to me too lol

[grizzled stone]

Did it!

every red ring in Sonic Generations

[flint folio]

nice one

[grizzled stone]

After all this, I can safely say that Planet Wisp is my least favourite stage in both acts

not a fan of a level where 6 minutes can be an S rank

[visual galleon]

Gotta go fast

Haha

Which level is it?

[grizzled stone]

Planet Wisp Act 2 (the modern sonic one)

Also doesn't help that a good chunk of it (maybe like half or even two thirds) is sidescrolling in pretty blocky areas that end up being a lot of "find the rocket wisp and the trail of rings leading to the next section"

[flint folio]

that level suuucks

[flint folio]

sonic speed sim has added chemical plant, and it has sonic r music playing

[atomic topaz]

WAT
THAT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE

[flint folio]

yeah, reactive factory

[atomic topaz]

WORK IT OUT????

bro thats my favorite one

[flint folio]

well i mean what other one would you have for chemical plant

[atomic topaz]

the chemical plant zone theme

[flint folio]

I mean from sonic r lol

[atomic topaz]

i see what ya mean lol

[grizzled stone]

yooooo

also, what's with Sonic Dash's fixation with Seaside Hill?

[flint folio]

Yes

[grizzled stone]

then again pretty sure I have a fixation with Seaside Hill myself

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio i think imma hop on speed sim and check ot that new stuff for a bit

[flint folio]

you should be able to do it, it requires a certain number of races not any rebirths

[atomic topaz]

what you mean amy?

[flint folio]

wot

just worlds 2-5 require a number of rebirths and stuff, chemical plant requires completing like 20 races?

but they all take like 10 seconds anyway

[atomic topaz]

oh gotcha

[atomic topaz]

does it still require an obby to open?

[flint folio]

no

you can go there from green hill

[atomic topaz]

swag

just rebirthed again

[flint folio]

poog

[flint folio]

@atomic topaz I did it

[atomic topaz]

twinsies!

[flint folio]

Epic stuff

[atomic topaz]

You know I got my copy of shadow for essentially free right

[flint folio]

Gun fast boi

Yeah pretty nice stuff

[atomic topaz]

22 pounds
sucker

lol im jk
im happy you could obtain it

it would be very on brand and appropriate if you obtained every sonic game someday

I know a lot of people call this game a spin off but I kind of consider it to actually be a sonic game because he appears in the first level

he just randomly shows up at various points in the game

like basically no explanation as to why he's there lol

[atomic topaz]

honestly that game is just such a beautiful mess

[flint folio]

I can’t wait, I always liked beautiful messes

[flint folio]

GameCube copy, it’s cheaper here than online

I nearly bought a PS2 copy myself but I don’t have one, so I bit the bullet

I wanted an OG Xbox one for less but I never found one, so this one is also a good version too

Sadly no manual with this copy

I nearly bought SADX, since I have all my other old sonic games on GC

Looks stupid as hell though, can’t wait

[atomic topaz]

i mean you did tell me that sonic heroes on ps2 was the worst version

and i bought it without considering that at all

[grizzled stone]

oh hey that's the version of sonic heroes I have :3

Yeah, it's pretty rough in comparison AFAIK

I wonder if the same can be said for Shadow

[flint folio]

I think so is shadow lol

[atomic topaz]

but playable

[grizzled stone]

I certainly played it growing up

by which I mean the first two zones

that casino pinball table >:(

even replaying it on PC with mods to fix it was a pain

[next tartan]

Bruh 22 pounds

I got mine for less than a fiver

[grizzled stone]

used gamecube game prices O_O

[atomic topaz]

same here lmaooooo

[grizzled stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS9YAiD9EP8 oh hey the thing

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio because of course

[flint folio]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Will view when I can

Made a mess

[flint folio]

VIDEO GAME

[atomic topaz]

AAAAAAAA

[flint folio]

OPEN

Seems the forces style model sticks around, and the boost exists but is held back, I’d love to see the exploration

Looks really interesting

Combat too

[grizzled stone]

The kicks mid-homing attack remind me of Shadow in 06

played a bit more sonic dash

Got Blaze on the spin wheel, and unlocked movie sonic with those emblems

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio https://youtu.be/wTpY3nrbBrc

this was appalling

i stg i HEARD shadow

that was only a single line and i already think pattinson would be a great choice for shadow

[flint folio]

There’s some good choices out there

[grizzled stone]

Off the top of my head I wanna suggest Yuri Lowenthal

[flint folio]

I liked the keanu reeves voice likes lol

I thought he was good

[grizzled stone]

IDK why other than he voiced the other spiky rival boi associated with black and red I usually think of

[flint folio]

https://youtu.be/cxJ5_ovBC_g

5pm GMT

Aaaaaaaaa

[grizzled stone]

Ooh nice

Interested in the HUD and what the boost looks like specifically

for some reason

[atomic topaz]

I think if they cast Keanu Reeves I wouldnt hear shadow i would only hear Keanu Reeves

[visual galleon]

Wot

Gameplay?!

When

[visual galleon]

If he changes the timbre a bit, it can work

[atomic topaz]

Ehh

[grizzled stone]

I wouldn't be opposed to Shadow keeping his voice actor from the games, I think the current one might work wellin the film's environment

[visual galleon]

Jason Griffith should return

“Damn”

[grizzled stone]

Maybe a relatively unknown actor would be a good idea

Like how it usually works for Doctor Who

[visual galleon]

Rupert Grint shadow

[grizzled stone]

heheheheh

[visual galleon]

“Bloody Hell Sonic”

[grizzled stone]

now that I think about it, I wanna see Rupert Grint Silver

[visual galleon]

Ikr lol

It suits his voice a bit

[atomic topaz]

We just need anyone who loosely fits the tone

I'm not sure why but I think Idris Elba was just that for Knuckles

[visual galleon]

Jack Black should voice Big

[atomic topaz]

no

[visual galleon]

Heheheheh

[grizzled stone]

Someone who can do that grit but still sound more like a dark reflection of Sonic than Batman

[atomic topaz]

I do not want the franchise to devolve into what the Mario movie is doing

[grizzled stone]

Hence my desire for Yuri Lowenthal

[visual galleon]

Hmmm

[atomic topaz]

Just picking a bunch of well known actors for the sake of marketing

[visual galleon]

Chris Pratt as mario was so weird man

Like the selection

Why not choose the original actor

[grizzled stone]

Imagine having to keep up Charles Martinet's mario voice for an entire film's worth of main character dialogue though

[atomic topaz]

That's what I was gonna say

he has never voiced lines of dialogue that are more than like 2 sentences

[visual galleon]

Didn’t Sunshine have lots of lines?

[grizzled stone]

Still waiting for when the film inevitably makes the joke where Mario speaks with the usual Martinet voice, then clears his throat, and starts talking like Chris Pratt

[visual galleon]

It felt strange that game because of that

“Uh sorry, got some meatball stuck on my throat. So yeah, this is how it happened”

flashback of 2 weeks ago starts

Tomorrow is a scary day

Sonic Frontiers looks promising but hopefully the trailer doesn’t show an empty feeling open world game

[atomic topaz]

Due to the casting I don't think the Mario movie can be anything more than a beautiful disaster

[visual galleon]

Could you imagine Chris faking an italian - American accent for 2 hours?

[atomic topaz]

I don't think any of the cast will
It just doesn't make sense

Those characters are based on stereotypes anyway

[visual galleon]

Exactly

[atomic topaz]

Except for peach who is for some reason just regular voice

[grizzled stone]

A little squeaky I'd say

[atomic topaz]

well yeah

But just like regular American voice

[grizzled stone]

Hmmm, kinda going back on the idea of Yuri Lowenthal for Shadow

Might be a little too young-sounding?

Might be a better Silver

[atomic topaz]

Based on his Peter Parker performance i can't hear him as shadow

[grizzled stone]

I can really hear it in certain lines from certain performances, but his default kinda skews too young IMO

wait he was Pip from Hellsing Ultimate what

now that I think about it he'd make a great Sonic

https://youtu.be/kHHm9s5R6mw?t=1068 haha he says sonic at this timestamp

also the following voice kinda shows a little of what makes me think he could be a good shadow

Oh! What about Crispin Freeman?

voiced Itachi in Naruto, Alucard in Hellsing, among others

https://youtu.be/VFUKLsQEOoA?t=114 This line makes me think Shadow, but the rest of Alucard's lines may be a bit too growly?

[atomic topaz]

oh shit ive been playing a bit of persona 4 recently
did not realize he was yosuke

[grizzled stone]

:O

wait apparently crispin freeman was winston from overwatch huh

[atomic topaz]

damn he voiced ALOT of persona characters

[grizzled stone]

okay now I wanna see a sonic thing where Yuri Lowenthal voices Sonic, and Crispin Freeman voices shadow

Sasuke/Itachi all over again

[grizzled stone]

I ended up on a weird train of thought and now I'm trying to figure out which sonic character could be voiced by James Hetfield

[visual galleon]

Who’s Yuri?

[atomic topaz]

A video game voice actor probably known best now for voicing spider-man in the PS4 game

[visual galleon]

Oooo

Peter ps4

[grizzled stone]

I'd say he's probably more famous for anime dub and cartoon voice acting

Like Sasuke in Naruto

[atomic topaz]

Well he does both

[grizzled stone]

Or Ben 10 in Ben 10 when he's grown up

Yeah!

[atomic topaz]

I watched that video and he probably has just as many video game roles as cartoon show roles

[grizzled stone]

Yeah, lots of Persona like you ssaid

[atomic topaz]

Actually a lot of shin megami Tensei

that whole franchise

[grizzled stone]

Ah nice

[atomic topaz]

and just also alot of atlus games

[grizzled stone]

Also the protag in Sunset Overdrive, forgot about that

[atomic topaz]

and just overall so so so many jrpgs

[grizzled stone]

Guy really has the perfect voice for a particular archetype of those haha

[atomic topaz]

lmao yeh

[visual galleon]

Sunset overdrive?

Isn’t that a Jojo reference

@young dagger @fresh drift

[fresh drift]

Hehe

Hamon

[visual galleon]

Haha yeah

Btw going to musicians

Need to show you something

[flint folio]

The frontiers model looks like a cross of forces and 06

Neat

5pm, the gameplay trailer is 7 minutes

[young dagger]

hamon yeah

did it say it was coming to pc?

[grizzled stone]

Oh nice! I wonder if that model was designed to get better combat animations

Then again it doesn't look too elongated or anything

[grizzled stone]

Yeah! Dunno if it's Steam, Epic or both but Wikipedia shows Windows in the platforms list

[flint folio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxJ5_ovBC_g

SONIC

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[visual galleon]

Shit

1 minute

[flint folio]

MUST GO QUICKLY

[visual galleon]

I got to go back to work

Fml

[flint folio]

itll be here for when youre back

[visual galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/green-day-billie-joe-armstrong-one-minute-gif-12423178

[flint folio]

i didnt see the teaser for a good hour after it came out lol

[visual galleon]

Brb man

Plzzzzz

Don’t comment about this just yet

Here at least

Wanna keep my hopes up for at least 4 more hours lol

[flint folio]

understood, lol
i'll just scream at myself

[graceful egret]

This looks really good

[flint folio]

oh yeah

[graceful egret]

Oh well that was short

[flint folio]

7 minutes was confirmed

[graceful egret]

Ah okay

[flint folio]

lots to take away from that, i am pleased indeed with what i saw, though i wont go into deets for @visual galleon

[graceful egret]

I liked it ngl

Might be worth a pickup for me

I'll have to see more really

[flint folio]

I'll probably buy it mulitple times knowing me

only question is what first

[grizzled stone]

I'm glad it's coming to PC

Hope it comes to both Steam and Epic

Really no need to replicate exclusivity when it's the same game in both camps

[flint folio]

you'd only do that if money was involved

[grizzled stone]

true, always the case isn't it

I'm still bothered that THPS 1+2 is Epic exclusive

Seems like Sega's fairly neutral though, with games largely available on both I think?

[flint folio]

I feel like PC would be first if i can run it all well enough

[grizzled stone]

Would be fun to see what gets modded in eventually haha

[flint folio]

just about everything, usually

[grizzled stone]

yeah haha

[flint folio]

probably unleashed hubs, boost levels, station square

[grizzled stone]

please no generations planet wisp

[flint folio]

what i will discuss though is the model, it is an altered sonic forces model

i still am not sold at the side profile as he stands

but its still a decent model

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio Now that I've seen more of this I'm happy to say that it looks less like breath of the sonic

[flint folio]

definitely inspired, but not a direct copy

[atomic topaz]

which is good

[flint folio]

hopefully we get more insight into combat, story, and any characters

i was very pleased

[atomic topaz]

i wanted level based structure but this still looks good

[flint folio]

it is not that kind of game, and we knew that a year ago

though, cyberspace may have level based structures

both types of game have their place, so I'm happy to take a break and explore a world for a million hours

[atomic topaz]

yes but i am unable to avoid bringing up the fact that i want rush 3

or something like it

[grizzled stone]

Rush 3 & Knuckles

[atomic topaz]

amazing

[flint folio]

rush 3: not colours DS anymore

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

i mean that one wasnt called rush 3 was it

[flint folio]

no, but it was a "3rd rush style game"

so people call it so

but it has nothing to do with the others

[atomic topaz]

With levels inspired by a console game

so one could argue its not completely original

[flint folio]

but with rush gameplay, thats enough for people

[grizzled stone]

I'd love to see Blaze at the forefront again in something

[flint folio]

blaze is fairly underused

[grizzled stone]

need more lavender cat pls

catgirl but not like the ova

[atomic topaz]

true

but there still needs to be another one and idc whether or not its made by dimps

i think dimps is like, dead anyways

[flint folio]

you'll be quite optimistic to hope for one

but it'd be cool

perfect for the switch

[grizzled stone]

Looks like they've been doing a lot of port work on other things, lot of Dragon Ball

wait might be ports or just the games themselves

[atomic topaz]

i would play advance/rush remasters

but ideally a new game

ive played the dimps platformers alot already

[grizzled stone]

An advance collection like the castlevania thing would be handy

Maybe they're not large enough to warrant it though?

Oh, also Sonic Battle

[atomic topaz]

If they were smart they'd just release every sonic game from the GBA including the spinoffs as its own collection

But I'm inclined to think they might just forget about something like battle

[grizzled stone]

That'd be a fun time

At least one of the Battle songs made it into Generations

was in the Espio classic sonic mission in Speed Highway

[flint folio]

I think idle animations are back lol

[grizzled stone]

hope so! Kinda odd that Forces dropped them

[flint folio]

rushed for time, again

lots of forces DNA in the sonic model, but it definitely looks updated

[grizzled stone]

Ahh

I get that it's Sonic, but Sega really need to stop using "gotta go fast" as a motto for dev time XD

[atomic topaz]

so does this game looks rushed to you at all?

[flint folio]

few hicks:

• pop in, and that bird looked awful with it not flying lol
• there were a couple moments where the animation wasnt quite perfect
• the world looks a bit demo-ish? i loved the look but it did look a little bit like a show-off area for stuff

[atomic topaz]

yeah kinda tbh

[flint folio]

so, some people are disappointed but i do see why
but i still loved it?

[atomic topaz]

the world looks like they should add more to it

[flint folio]

i believe there is more biomes too, it could even be a demo area

apparently plenty of news throughout the month, so we will find out

sega seem to be learning though, id say there is a lot of promise

quietly optimistic

[flint folio]

It’s time

[grizzled stone]

!!

also, love the colour scheme of your consoles haha

[flint folio]

Lol yeah me too

Should borrow my dads Xbox One S and put it up here

[flint folio]

This game is actually pretty interesting

Having 3 objectives and picking one

[atomic topaz]

lol just noticed sonic and mark hoppus pops next to each other, amazing

[flint folio]

I only have 3, so that’s why lol

[atomic topaz]

just thought it was cool lmao

[atomic topaz]

whats your gamecube collection look like

[flint folio]

I’ll get it

[flint folio]

Be aware I also have Metroid prime 1 and 2, but they’re not on my shelf atm

[atomic topaz]

holy FUCK you have eternal darkness

[flint folio]

Yeah dad bought it a few months ago, he finished it too

[atomic topaz]

the only ones we have in common are wave race, crazy taxi, double dash, and metroid prime 1

[flint folio]

I nearly bought SA DX yesterday, but settled for shadow since I’d never played it

[atomic topaz]

technically NFS underground too

but my GC copy doesnt work anymore

but its okay i bought it for ps2

and alot of those other games i have for ps2

[flint folio]

Piss2

Very clear you simply would own more for the console you had as a kid

[atomic topaz]

i mean technically ive had a gamecube longer than ps2
because wii

[flint folio]

I wouldn’t say that meant you had a gamecube, because I’m sure you were not very gamecube focused on that thing

[atomic topaz]

yeah

[flint folio]

I’m just saying I’m aware why you have more ps2 versions of stuff

[atomic topaz]

Yeah its weird but I think I do have a bit more nostalgia for it

[flint folio]

It’s not weird to have owned the best selling console ever made

If anything it’s weird I didn’t have one when growing up in a gaming household

[atomic topaz]

or well not just that
its library is more varied than gamecube imo

[flint folio]

My dad simply stuck with Nintendo until the 360

So I’ve just been playing those games since forever

I think PlayStation was always very varied, if you got 5 ps2 owners there is a chance none of them played the same games

But for a gamecube I reckon you’d have a fair overlap

Although this is more prevalent because of how well the ps2 did and how well the GameCube didn’t do

[atomic topaz]

also its easier to collect for

[flint folio]

Only downside to having the GameCube my whole life is I spend more for the privilege of gamecube games/versions

[atomic topaz]

thats probably the bigger reason

[flint folio]

Well if you wanted easiest you’d have all Xbox consoles lol

[atomic topaz]

lol

[flint folio]

The Xbox version for everything is always cheapest I see

[atomic topaz]

I mean original xbox and PS2 are always around the same price

for games

[flint folio]

OG Xbox games I always see for a bit less

I see Xbox as a lot more niche, and collectors of their games are very few and far between

Though PlayStation games got cheaper simply because of how many they sold

Just for Shadow as an example, Gamecube was £22, PS2 was £5 and Xbox was £3

[grizzled stone]

Here's my GameCube collection XD

[flint folio]

I got the credits in shadow, since the game has so many endings, it is short

Game is janky, but I didn’t think it was that bad at all, I had fun at times

[grizzled stone]

ooh nice!

I'd like to revisit it, especially on a platform other than PS2

[flint folio]

yeah its thrown in there with other titles as dreadful, but like
it is like an "episode shadow" for sonic heroes

each way of finishing a level has its own rank, which is neat

decent little time, will revisit and get other endings

[atomic topaz]

still slightly annoys me that shadow is the only cast member to get his own big game

and no i am NOT counting Tails' Sky Patrol

[flint folio]

suppose it depends how you define big lol

[atomic topaz]

like
not a game gear game

[flint folio]

knuckles chaotix isnt on the game gear 👀

[atomic topaz]

oh i forgot

well isnt it technically about the chaotix as a whole

[flint folio]

theres tails adventure too, so do 2 game gear games make 1 game

[atomic topaz]

ah fuck

i just mean like why didnt someone like Knuckles ever get the type of treatment shadow did

[flint folio]

the same reason sonic unleashed wasnt a sonic and knuckles reboot

[grizzled stone]

Shadow was ridiculously popular after Adventure 2, which IIRC is why he's even there in any games afterwards

[flint folio]

the world hates us all

[grizzled stone]

yeah that

[flint folio]

also because of segas direction, they wanted a more mature game, shadow was perfect for that

[atomic topaz]

wait joe
you didnt respond to the video i posted yesterday

rob pattinson as shadow

i fully support the idea now

[flint folio]

i would always pick keanu just because he's fun and i'm biased
but robert pattinson has a terrific shadow voice too

would be a good fit for a big name

[atomic topaz]

im dumb
you did respond

just looked again

[flint folio]

theres quite a few good shadow voices

and plenty of options for a big name for the movie

[atomic topaz]

just that line they used
from the batman

i can see that as shadow SO MUCH

[flint folio]

i mean, batman is a good place to start to look for shadow

[atomic topaz]

exactly

except shadow is more of an antihero

[flint folio]

yeah

[atomic topaz]

but the grittyness and darkness of him yeah
definitely relates alot to the dark knight

[flint folio]

i mean he'd fit well in the arkham games lol

[atomic topaz]

lmaooo

[flint folio]

i hope the announcement is like idris for knuckles

[atomic topaz]

honestly i want someone who fits shadow but isnt too much of an obvious choice

cuz i think Keanu is WAYYY too obvious

[flint folio]

pattinson was one of the first names i heard alongside keanu actually lol

[atomic topaz]

ah fuck

[flint folio]

people will just say reeves because he's a nice bloke and everyone likes him

but i can see robert pattinson having arguably a better voice?

seems more shadow

[atomic topaz]

yeah Rob has a knack for playing broken recluse type characters

[flint folio]

all depends on if shadow gets a gun or not

[atomic topaz]

and he also apparently in some interview said he was a big fan of sonic adventure 2??

[flint folio]

i dont think that was real lol

as far as i know that was faked, id never seen it before but someone debunked it before i knew of it

[atomic topaz]

odd

Why would anyone fake an actor saying they like a certain game

[flint folio]

because they want him to play shadow, or they like sonic adventure 2

[atomic topaz]

Basically I'm just saying I hope its him and not keanu
They've been casting keanu in a lot of like animated movies with dark characters lately

[flint folio]

signs point huh lol

i'd be happy either way, for different reasons

but my assumption is we'd get neither

[atomic topaz]

ah fuck

I guess I know what you're saying
We can't exactly expect them to pick someone based on popularity
Or relevance
they definitely picked Idris because they thought he could play knuckles really well

Which is refreshing because it's the exact opposite of what Sony did with uncharted

but i guess that means they probably wouldnt pick Pattinson just because of Batman

but ive been wrong before

[flint folio]

I'm not sure the budget for actors here really

[atomic topaz]

i mean

the cast is pretty great already

james marsden and jim carrey in the first movie alone

and then Idris

[flint folio]

so, how much more do they spend?

[atomic topaz]

idk

[flint folio]

thats the question really

but a big name for shadow would really sell the film

[atomic topaz]

it doesnt have to be the biggest actor in the world

it can be someone people know but not like
the BIGGEST

[flint folio]

paramount and sega may likely hope for the "i'll see it because they're in it" factor

[atomic topaz]

i dont really think that was their goal with Idris Elba though

[flint folio]

not with him, but it is with jim carrey

[atomic topaz]

oh yea tru lol

[flint folio]

i dunno, I'm eager to see who we get though, it may be a while before we know

[atomic topaz]

yeah i still think they'll probly make the right choice

[flint folio]

i reckon they'll at least make a good choice

there's plenty of good options

[atomic topaz]

tails and knuckles were both excellent choices
even if one was just the easy choice

lol

the game actress

[flint folio]

lol yeah

[atomic topaz]

they are a surprising amount of good "dark and brooding" actors out there for sure

[flint folio]

ye

i mean theres a lot of films with people like that

[atomic topaz]

i just had another thought about pattinson
imagine if he got this role
it would further strengthen his career resurgence

and even further prove the lame twilight haters wrong

[flint folio]

it would, but surely he just gets bad rep for that because it was twilight

[atomic topaz]

i mean yeah
i only mean that people use that as an excuse to call him a bad actor

which he absolutely is not

i'd even go as far as to say its a bit of a Hayden Christenson situation
the script was just for the most part, not great

[flint folio]

perhaps, but you can't blame him for what he's paid to say i suppose lol

[atomic topaz]

exactly

[flint folio]

neat

metal sonic

[grizzled stone]

what does the scouter say about his fast level

[visual galleon]

It’s over 9000!

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio sanic

[flint folio]

MORE SNOC FRONT TOMORRO

[atomic topaz]

swag

Why is the word sanic so funny to me

[flint folio]

i prefer snoc

or blue cunt

[flint folio]

supposedly a combat showcase, and christ does the game need it

apparently the world in the reveal is the first area/tutorial thing? so fans are very mixed but i hold optimism, especially if the combat holds up

[flint folio]

it may be worth pointing out i dont think i'll be around for the state of play
I apologise

[atomic topaz]

oh i forgot about it too
its today?

[flint folio]

yeah

[atomic topaz]

i have an appointment to meet with someone at 4
school stuff

[flint folio]

i forgot for a while too

[atomic topaz]

yeah its ok

we both forgot lol

[flint folio]

still, lots of presentations coming up I'm sure i'll be around for lol

[atomic topaz]

I scheduled the thing without even thinking about that

[flint folio]

lmao

[atomic topaz]

I was enthusiastic about that at first but it just slipped my mind entirely I guess

[flint folio]

yeah it happens, theres a lot going on actually

[atomic topaz]

At least we'll be able to see it at some point and talk about the reveals later on

[flint folio]

yeah i'll catch it all when i can

[atomic topaz]

Or at the very least you and I will probably see highlight reels

There is usually some filler in these presentations

[atomic topaz]

i noticed r racing revolution
is that one good?

all i know is its spinoff of ridge racer

[flint folio]

Quite a realistic racer, I quite liked it - but it’s not an arcade racer, it’s more simulation

But I liked it as a kid, quite tough

[atomic topaz]

oh so its ridge racer but not ridge racer

yeah i already left the game store

i sent you that question then just kinda forgot 5 minutes later lol

[flint folio]

Lol it’s more like ridge turismo in a way

It’s decent, though I’d see for yourself another time

[atomic topaz]

i said that because if they make it a simulation title then its essentially not really ridge racer

Ridge Racer's whole thing is being a loose feeling fun arcade Racer

[flint folio]

Probably why it’s called R Racing

This being said ridge racer doesn’t have to be defined by specifically one gameplay genre, I think it can easily still be ridge racer if it’s not identical to the others

[atomic topaz]

tru

[flint folio]

https://youtu.be/q88r4mKJGoM

SONIC THROWIN HANDS

[atomic topaz]

oh shit joe guess what

you said state of play was today
its 6 my time i think
so in 22 minutes
and i just got home

I'm assuming you arent around though and that's okay

It's just funny that I got back just in time for it

tho i may not watch it

ok i actually am

its only 30 minutes

[flint folio]

But sonic throwing hands tomorrow

[untold arch]

Drew this on Google Keep

[flint folio]

Snoc

[graceful egret]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q88r4mKJGoM&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=IGN

Oh yeah this happens in 1 minute

@atomic topaz @flint folio Get over here

I'm not impressed

[flint folio]

be impressed

🔫 😠

i liked it actually, ill do more thoughts another time, busy atm

chat liked that more than the previous video, hopefully you get many more abilities as you go, seems like you can

[graceful egret]

Yeah I thought it looked better than the other one but still kinda lacking imo

I'll definitely give the game a look when it comes out

[atomic topaz]

im at work ya dingus

[graceful egret]

Oop

My bad

Sorry

[flint folio]

i see what you mean but i was very excited by it all, and i am excited for context to it all, and what all the collectables mean

honestly im on a much more positive end, but i see why some people aren't happy, i just guess that i am - looking rather promising to me

[graceful egret]

Yeah I totally get that. I'm not going to write this game off just yet either. I'm going to give it a fair shot and wait until reviews drop to make a decision

And of course I'll pay attention to any other gameplay that comes out as well

[grizzled stone]

combat sweet

Oookay I'm already a lot more interested with this haha

||ooh the running line thing from the trailer kinda acts like the tornado from heroes||

[atomic topaz]

Wait so how deep is the combat?

Is it like full on devil may cry action game play
Or is it just like an afterthought

[grizzled stone]

Looks like there are a good few ways to approach things

I'd guess it's not nearly as detailed as a hack and slash, but it's more detailed than a Sonic game

looks like ||the comments have gone from "hire this man" jokes to actual interest and praise for how it plays to Sonic's strengths and kinda implements past techniques in a new way||

but this is still early footage and all

[atomic topaz]

the game is coming out this fall right??

or like the end of the year

[flint folio]

Holiday 2022

[flint folio]

Somewhere in between

With sonics move set they 100% COULD make it like DMC level with his abilities and stuff, but I’m doubtful

What we know so far:
Skill tree,
Lots of punching and kicking, with some fun tornado move and a finishing power kick

Maybe button mashy, but that’s not always a bad thing if it’s satisfying

And a trail swoosh that does things to enemies

Looks like a lot of different options, but of course I doubt that’s everything sonic can do, but I thought it looked pretty neat

Keep in mind the player seemed a bit shite at the game lol

[atomic topaz]

lmao

its funny when terrible gamers do gamepley demos

[flint folio]

https://twitter.com/ssf1991/status/1532793215832707072?s=21&t=kbMrYZ3w56uoSPhO-wP_jw

SSF1991 (@SSF1991)

IGN is saying that they'll be revealing more Sonic Frontiers info on Tuesday.

https://t.co/CYjD9sQdRO

Likes

410

Twitter · Jun 3, 2022, 6:35 PM

[atomic topaz]

I've heard that people are already shitting on this game

[flint folio]

oh yeah

plenty

[atomic topaz]

like alot

[flint folio]

its a very hot topic of conversation

[atomic topaz]

The one criticism I think I do agree on is that yeah it did kind of look like a tech demo

[flint folio]

as far as im aware the area we see is the tutorial area

idk, its quite split
i have enjoyed the gameplay
though i think the presentation of it all is very bizarre

i understand a lot of the issues people have, but i am still very eager to see where this whole month goes, since there is plenty left to piece this all together - where we'll have a very valid look at the game

[atomic topaz]

Yeah i think it's gonna be a problem if that's the only area in the game

[flint folio]

well, it isnt

[atomic topaz]

thats good

[flint folio]

afaik theres a good handful of biomes, i doubt they could fit the whole game in that area anyway

[atomic topaz]

Do you think we'll get another level based sonic game after this?

[flint folio]

honestly it is too early to judge what direction sonic will go
but i'll likely assure you that level based sonic will never die

[atomic topaz]

im fully willing to give their concept here a fair shot but we need another sonic 06 but great
or something like that

[flint folio]

even if frontiers succeeds very well there would be no reason to abandon other concrete ways of making sonic games as they have for decades

it targets very different gameplay styles and many versions of the character have reason to exist

even not liking the 2d games much, its obvious that they should still exist, there's still lots of potential in even the most classic of games

[atomic topaz]

if they just reveal a new style of 2d sonic that isnt classic sonic that will be just as meaningful to me as rush 3

[flint folio]

id like to hope that the amount of hype mania and origins has gotten will inform sega that 2d sonic works best when he is alone

and perhaps after origins, there is new ideas for 2d sonic

[atomic topaz]

If they just want to give Christian Whitehead the keys to 2D sonic i wouldnt mind that even

just someone who can evolve the Rush formula

[flint folio]

im not sure that sega are brave enough to step outside the genesis style really

id like them to, but i doubt it

[atomic topaz]

that sucks dick

[flint folio]

perhaps

[atomic topaz]

i miss dimps

i thank them for making sonic rush adventure
my childhood was better for it

[flint folio]

go on a quest to revive dimps

[atomic topaz]

yes

[visual galleon]

Rush was the shit

Loved that game

I still have my copy

[flint folio]

i believe he went fast

[visual galleon]

When I was 7 I left it on a hot car and it melted a bit the cart

It still works

[atomic topaz]

i have both
and colors ds which is technically rush 3

[visual galleon]

True

Same model

I need to get that game

I had rush 2 and didn’t like it much tbh

[atomic topaz]

some guy in high school gave me colors ds and i never gave it back

[visual galleon]

Pay the guy $5

XD

[atomic topaz]

thats how i have it

[visual galleon]

That’s how I got Mario Kart 7

I borrowed the game permanently and paid the guy 4 years later whatever I had on my wallet

[atomic topaz]

Like 3 years ago I was hanging out with a friend that I don't see much much anymore and he gave me his copy of a link between worlds

[visual galleon]

It was like $5

Oooo

Love that Zelda game

Was thinking about buying Links Awakening today

But I already played it on my GB

[subtle geode]

this meme belongs here

it's tea toime, bruv. go'a go fast

ok i'm done lol

[atomic topaz]

unfortunately joe prolly wont see that for awhile

[subtle geode]

lol ok

[atomic topaz]

it says he's idle lmao

[flint folio]

sonic frontiers (british DLC)

OIGHT SOHNIC GOTTA GO FAHST

[grizzled stone]

I have a desire to see cockney Silver now

[atomic topaz]

I was half expecting knuckles to have Idris Elba's accent in sonic 2

[subtle geode]

Lmao

[atomic topaz]

he didnt tho

[flint folio]

Idris did a great "baffled as fuck tribesman" but i did half expect a proper london gangster knuckles

fella could have rapped or something

[subtle geode]

lol Peaky Blinders Knuckles ™️

[flint folio]

idris was the man to do that

gimme roadman knuckles

[atomic topaz]

That would have been awesome
Knuckles in that movie was portrayed as more serious than I expected

[flint folio]

nucls

[grizzled stone]

I could very much see film Knuckles in one of those big puffy north face jackets

then again I haven't even seen Sonic 2

and kinda half-heartedly watched the first one when it appeared on Channel 4

[flint folio]

disgraceful

[grizzled stone]

I definitely need to rewatch 1 and watch 2

I never watch films though

[flint folio]

me neither, unless cat wants me to

but it had snoc in it

[grizzled stone]

snoc indeed

[atomic topaz]

you must watch every film that has ever been released in the history of ever
or i will steal your sonic unleashed

[flint folio]

consume arsehair

[atomic topaz]

such a beautiful response

[flint folio]

sonic fans when they fall down the stairs
(they had momentum)

the up and down frontiers talk online has tired me out to no end lol
its exhausting reading it all

if i see another frontiers tweet with the word momentum i am going to calculate the momentum at which a wrecking ball hits my skull

[flint folio]

fella reaslly said fuck it and started playing sonic chronicles

[atomic topaz]

🤨

who???

[flint folio]

Me

[atomic topaz]

oh

joe speaks in the third person moment

[atomic topaz]

do you actually like that game

[flint folio]

to an extent, actually yes

i'd love another

i played it a lot as a kid and was actually fairly encapsulated by the world and some of the elements

[atomic topaz]

sonic deserves more RPGs

[flint folio]

absolutely

frontiers may be the closest we get for a while

i think its because i do love RPGs and a sonic one is the dream

it is very flawed as a game but i absolutely do have my fun with it, and I'm eager to finish it
i did once but it's been so long, i never stuck with

[atomic topaz]

doesnt matter who makes them really
bioware was a unique choice
but a sonic RPG can be made by anyone with a knack for that genre

[flint folio]

bioware was an odd one, but they were a masterful choice for an RPG

[atomic topaz]

yeah they are a good choice

[flint folio]

mass effect, dragon age, the old republic

great choice for a sonic RPG

[atomic topaz]

just like
it can still be good if its from another dev

[flint folio]

i mean, arguably better

sonic should be handed out more

[atomic topaz]

yee

[flint folio]

make some weird shit, i'd love more just totally out there shit

[atomic topaz]

happens to mario alot

[flint folio]

give me more RPGs, make a storybook RPG

[atomic topaz]

and its happened to zelda too

[flint folio]

oh yeah, sonic needs to change hands every now and then

tbh i'd like insomniac to make a sonic game lol

they make some excellent games that would make them great candidates for a sonic title of their own

i think mainly i just want not sonic team to have a go, they seem to lose their top talents and they go on to do great things

[atomic topaz]

Capcom developed the oracle games and Minish Cap

[flint folio]

some of the key players in sonic unleashed went on to make things like mario odyssey

[atomic topaz]

come to think of it very few core first party titles nowadays are developed by nintendo internally

[flint folio]

nintendo do kinda make very few little things

but i mean they have had a pretty good run right?

[atomic topaz]

ye

[flint folio]

they do a few stinkers but nintendo always did have some kinda "nintendo magic"

"sonic team" magic is mostly just half ass-ing terrific ideas

[atomic topaz]

sonic hack and slash sword game developed by Platinum

[flint folio]

it seems i am flinging money already

[atomic topaz]

i with i could thanos snap it into existence

[flint folio]

i want a sonic hack and slash, another RPG, a boost rhythm game, a momentum heavy indie title, tiny devs making more advanced style games, and some huge god making AAA titles as the main thing

but sonic will stay relevant and big if he branches out, since even if you get a sonic forces, what if we did have chronicles, non re-release 2d games, other cool things made by other devs

[atomic topaz]

ADVANCE 4
RUSH 3
A GOOD SONIC RIDERS GAME

[flint folio]

chronicles 2, sonic dash 3: this time its actually good

thats the thing, you branch sonic out, you'd never get rush 3, but you'd get something similar

[atomic topaz]

sonic dash 3: its not subway surfers this time

[flint folio]

nah you could, still

just developing it more

[atomic topaz]

lucasfilm games is licensing star wars to different studios now
so in the next few years we're getting like 5 or 6 different games all from different devs
thats how sonic should go

[flint folio]

he used to, just not anymore

[grizzled stone]

A Spyro/Ratchet and Clank-y Sonic collectathon could be sweet

but maybe Sonic's a bit fast for that?

[flint folio]

you can easily design it around him, just make it more open

whether you go for momentum or boost and combat focused, i think both would make an excellent game

[grizzled stone]

which I guess is what Frontiers is aiming for haha

Although, more modern in styling than those

[flint folio]

i mean, there is a reason i like it lol

[grizzled stone]

I can't think of a game I've been hyped for in recent memory

Maybe THPS 1+2 but given THPS HD and 5 I'm not sure

my memory's awful though

[flint folio]

the thing i think people forget is sonic isn't a one dimensional character, he doesnt have to be only a momentum based A to B spindashing maniac

he can do other stuff

[grizzled stone]

I love the almost rhythm game flow of the boost formula

[flint folio]

let him be a combat focused fairly fast character for a game, fuck it

[grizzled stone]

does sound like fun

[flint folio]

if every game was sonic utopia it'd really hurt his creativity

frontiers and utopia for example are wildly different, and thats okay

[atomic topaz]

HELLO

whoops all caps

[grizzled stone]

HELLO

[atomic topaz]

im home from work

[flint folio]

Pokemon legends, Shining Pearl, Scarlet/Violet, Colours Ultimate, Frontiers, i think its all been pokemon and sonic for me recently

[atomic topaz]

SNOC

[flint folio]

snooc

[atomic topaz]

new sonic pinball game lol

Honestly if Sega cared they would bring back every single type of sonic game

Including story book

[flint folio]

Hell yeah I’d play a little pinball game

[atomic topaz]

Once again shoutout to aodhan who sent me his sonic advance that also included sonic pinball party

[flint folio]

Shoutout to aodhan for being the only person I have insulted in written form

[atomic topaz]

bitch what

I can think of more times you've done that to me than fuckin how many Mario games there are or something

[flint folio]

Typed is different to sending you a piece of paper

[atomic topaz]

fuck

i done goofed

[flint folio]

more sonic chronicles

[atomic topaz]

how is it today

[flint folio]

I’m having
Fun

[atomic topaz]

is that a sarcastic fun

or a genuine fun

[flint folio]

Well if I didn’t like it I’d have stopped playing

[atomic topaz]

lmao

you right

[flint folio]

I found knuckles, and checked online to see what people used in their teams

Some interesting tips to try out, the game has been fun

[atomic topaz]

wait are you playing that on an emulator or actual ds?

[flint folio]

I’m playing it on my actual DSi

[atomic topaz]

do the shoulder buttons actually work

the ones on mine have been barely functional for years

[flint folio]

If you blow hard enough underneath apparently they work again

[atomic topaz]

yeah ive done that before

[flint folio]

I normally would just use my 3ds but cat has that at the moment

[atomic topaz]

its really annoying though so i evetually said fuck it and bought my pink ds lite

[flint folio]

I had that one anyway from my mum

[flint folio]

WHAT THE FUCK

SONIC CENTRAL RETURNS

https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1533931741592752128?s=21&t=TpXfzkLQtjgXLFh1E59fXw

Sonic the Hedgehog (@sonic_hedgehog)

Sonic Central returns tomorrow!

Likes

9596

Retweets

2669

Twitter · Jun 6, 2022, 10:00 PM

[visual galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[flint folio]

ACTION STATIONS

@atomic topaz CARE

The shrine is up

5pm
lets go

[visual galleon]

Where

[flint folio]

to sonicland

the world of immense excitement or crippling mediocrity and no in between

[atomic topaz]

Yo bitch

I will be at home during that time

If you want to watch together I am here for it

[flint folio]

i'll see where i am, i dont have plans yet

[atomic topaz]

hmm

Would be nice though

[flint folio]

yeah, ill definitely be watching it live

do you like my shrine

[flint folio]

this speedy blue fuck brings me too much excitement

[atomic topaz]

I think it would be better if it was either all copies of sonic unleashed or all different sonic games

[flint folio]

nah it is the porting shrine

[atomic topaz]

Why don't you have PS3 sonic 06 then

[flint folio]

its like £18 is why really

[atomic topaz]

Also you should obtain sonic unleashed on wii and ps2

pull a scott the woz madden 08

[flint folio]

probably yeah, i think maybe when i see cat next i'll get myself some more

06 on ps3 i will get round to, and unleashed wii

since i would like to play them

[atomic topaz]

Oh yeah I'm starting to remember

You said cat is the one that has the PS2

[flint folio]

yeah not me

[atomic topaz]

sadly

[flint folio]

so unfortunately i have no real desire to buy ps2 games unless cat wants to play or watch along

[atomic topaz]

You know I could buy you one

Hypothetically

[flint folio]

i have a gamecube, i just have to spend more lol

[atomic topaz]

But I would have to find a European PS2 to buy online

[flint folio]

that sorta guff sounds like pain

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

[flint folio]

honestly i see ps2s for sale a lot, i just dont have the need to get one

[atomic topaz]

As long as it's a slim it wouldn't be too expensive

ps2 slim is the GOAT

[flint folio]

it was the best slimification sony has come up with

[atomic topaz]

If mine ever broke I would buy a new one right on the spot

same with xbox 360

[atomic topaz]

PS3 super slim sucks dick

[flint folio]

does this mean cat is neutral

she has a silver ps2 slim but a 20GB super slim ps3

[atomic topaz]

Me and cat got the twinsies thing going on

My silver ps2 slim has been my homie for 10 years

[flint folio]

im amazed how her ps2 works based off how its kept

[atomic topaz]

I'm amazed that PS2 slims work as well as they do

[flint folio]

it just lives under the tv and gathers dust and whatever she drops

the controller is manky as hell

[atomic topaz]

Mine doesn't gather dust too much it's rather out in the open next to my TV

[flint folio]

but i can still get annoyed at dying in san andreas just fine

[atomic topaz]

I've generally disliked starting over on that game like 3 times

Because it really has been that many times pretty much

I've played the mobile version
PS2
And "definitive"

[flint folio]

i have struggled a lot playing it lol

i die a hell of a lot

its rather unforgiving at times

[atomic topaz]

incrwedibly true

[flint folio]

like the game itself is very impressive, but the auto aim is questionable, there is no health regen and i have to re-gather my weapons every time i die, unless i saved when i had some

though i did do the train mission fairly quickly

[atomic topaz]

I think this is actually my moment of realization about the definitive edition

I defended that game way more than anyone ever did

But in reality
San Andreas was was in grave need of some difficulty balancing

And they barely did that

[flint folio]

yeah i understand a game can be challenging but there is a balance between difficulty and tediousness

regathering weapons is not a challenge its a silly tedious task

[atomic topaz]

yeah exactly
they needed to make it less tedious

[flint folio]

i can live with health regen not existing if i can aim properly

[atomic topaz]

which they didnt do

[atomic topaz]

I think the reason I died so much is because
And I think a lot of people don't realize this because of nostalgia
The gunplay and aiming is clunky at best

[flint folio]

the gunplay is borderline bad at times

auto aim outright doesnt work

it tells you to use it often but it aims at one guy, and then i re-use it and CJ turns the fuck around

like you fuckin vest wearing fucknuckle there are 8 cunts unloading uzis into your afro fuckin shoot them

[atomic topaz]

The main reason that game has held up is because of the story

imo

It's one of the best narratives of that generation

[flint folio]

the reason thats the case is you could have released it in 2013 as GTA 5 and it'd have been still pretty great

[atomic topaz]

no glitchy remaster will change that

[flint folio]

the issue i had with the remaster was it was the first time i didnt actually think it looked better

1080p and all that is great, but it flip flopped between realistic effects, outright bad effects and the dated PS2 style

which did not gel very well

[atomic topaz]

If there's one game I agree needs a modern redoing its san andreas

and they just went the easy route

Also I don't get releasing at this soon

If Gta 6 is still like 4 years away which I think it is

they could put more time into this remaster
No one was pressuring them

More studios really need to take note from the RE2 remake team

[flint folio]

well it, at times, looked genuinely just bad

its a shame it went that way

[atomic topaz]

One thing I can say in its favor is that they made vice city look more colorful
And it already was
That's impressive

[flint folio]

sometimes the rain and reflections looked awful

it was not a good transformation to modern consoles

[atomic topaz]

I just thought it was so weird that they gave Tommy such a tan

for his re-model

[flint folio]

in vice city? i mean it was the 80s

[atomic topaz]

haha

good point actually

[flint folio]

lol

[atomic topaz]

what i mean is its just pretty jarring compared to the original

no one expected him to look like that

[flint folio]

i dont think anyone expected most of the game to look like it did

[atomic topaz]

touche

[flint folio]

i suppose its important to note really that if youre picking out blunders in the gta remasters, youll be there a while

[atomic topaz]

also lemme get back to this

[atomic topaz]

do you think they will reveal anything entirely new tomorrow?

[flint folio]

depends what you think will be new

IGN is doing some dev chat, with some insight

that is pretty new

sonic central existing will 100% mean there is a good bunch of stuff to show, be that frontiers, origins or prime

[atomic topaz]

I'm sorry but they need to grow some balls bro
It's not that hard to make a new 2D sonic game

compared to fuckin Frontiers

[flint folio]

you'll be in luck, one reddit comment said they saw a rumour of a new one