Sonic

[atomic topaz]

dont spoil anything !!!!!!!!!!!!

i might not get to see it til saturday

[visual galleon]

Haha same man!

Will watch it on 4D!

So hyped, even played sonic adventure 2

To understand the references

Really hope Live and Learn appears

[atomic topaz]

wouldnt cross my fingers cuz there havent really been any sonic OST references so far

but there is a quick blink-and-you'll-miss-it easter egg where the name Crush 40 appears on Eggman's computer screen in the first movie

like when he opens his music folder or something

[visual galleon]

True dat

[visual galleon]

Lets hope we get something at least

Live and Learn or City Escape

Hell even the movie logo is like SA 2

[atomic topaz]

idk but Jeff Fowler is absolutely a sonic fan through and through

it shows through the other movies

Shit i just remembered i never finished the Knuckles series on paramount

[visual galleon]

He was cgi director for shadow the hedgehog

Maybe he might have secure some rights of the songs

[visual galleon]

I have to pirate it

Because sadly paramount plus isn't available in Puerto Rico

For some stupid local station holding the rights of cbs / paramount

[atomic topaz]

lol rip

[visual galleon]

Yeah man

And the worst thing I paid a month to try it

[atomic topaz]

bro wtf

[atomic topaz]

thats like putting a dollar in a vending machine and not getting it back after your bag of chips gets stuck

Wack

[visual galleon]

Yeah

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-death-sonic2006-sonic-the-hedgehog-fall-sega-gif-17306537

[atomic topaz]

@visual galleon wait, so did you see it???

whatd you think

[visual galleon]

@atomic topaz not yet broo

At 2:35pm

Rn is 12:51

Write me in 5 hours and will let you know

[glass spade]

i saw it earlier today

was peak.

[visual galleon]

@atomic topaz AMAZING

Just a little spoiler

Eggman appears

Lmao

[glass spade]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-absolute-cinema-gif-11357734032629135578

[atomic topaz]

Bro that was in the trailer

I know that eggman and his father are in this

[visual galleon]

🤣🤣

[flint folio]

monday is the day i drag cat to watch it

[atomic topaz]

that might be the day i go with my friend too

[flint folio]

didnt get an invite

[atomic topaz]

wait what

[flint folio]

didnt know you had other friends skeet
are you cheating on me

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio @glass spade @visual galleon which of these you like better?

[glass spade]

they both go so hard

imma have to say the 2nd one

[atomic topaz]

you like the cherry blossom one more? surprised by that but it is a cool one

[glass spade]

idk it shoudlnt go as hard as it does i cant lie but it does go hard as fuck

a tiny bit harder than the 1st

[atomic topaz]

yeah i think u right actually
i got that one

thought idd be cool to have a shirt to wear to the movie when i finally go

[glass spade]

hell yeah man

cant wait to hear what you think

[flint folio]

I prefer the first

[atomic topaz]

Rip

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio I just have a feeling this might pique your interest, don't know if you're into podcasts though but its neat
voice acting legend Jim Cummings has this podcast where he talks to voice actors and our boy went on it!!!
https://youtu.be/6YMWXmFl-dQ?si=zEa_Xd-lwV-ZJnyh

[atomic topaz]

GUYS IM AT THE THEATRE FOR SANIC @flint folio @glass spade

[glass spade]

LETS FUCKING GOOO

ENJOY BRO

🫡

[flint folio]

Won’t see it until next week :(

[glass spade]

aw man :(

[atomic topaz]

Biggest L in Joe history

[visual galleon]

First

[atomic topaz]

Whoops lol

[glass spade]

dang i guess i got outnumbered

i still stand by what i thought tho

[atomic topaz]

I was with my mom and she liked the cherry blossom jacket more too

So at the time it was like a 2 to 1 vote

[glass spade]

your mom got good taste

i prefer the blossom one cos its such a contrast

shadow wearing a BLOSSOM jacket

it works well imo

its a good constrast that works thats why i saw so drawn to it

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio @glass spade i got it for christmas

[glass spade]

LETS FUCKINGG GOOO

enjoy bro its peak

try get the DLC too

[atomic topaz]

great timing too cuz sonic 3

[glass spade]

yessir

[atomic topaz]

Yeah!!!!

ofc

[glass spade]

hell yeah

[atomic topaz]

is it paid

[glass spade]

sadly yeah

[atomic topaz]

how much

[glass spade]

uhh idk how much it is in dollars

but the digital deluxe upgrade that has like the terios skin, movie pack + more is 11£ and the movie pack by itself is 5£

[atomic topaz]

yeah juat about the same

$5.99 for us american folk

[glass spade]

oh right yeah

[atomic topaz]

not bad

[glass spade]

movie dlc is cool

but honestly u can just get alot of enjoyment from that game in of itself

without any of the dlc

[atomic topaz]

might not buy it right now but i definitely will be able too

True

[glass spade]

yeah i didnt get digital deluxe immediately either

[atomic topaz]

i have vanilla generations on pc but this'll be better

[glass spade]

i only had it on xbox one through backwards compat

much better

so much better than og gens

[atomic topaz]

my pc runs it at a shoddy framerate anyways

[glass spade]

also controls much better too

like frontiers controls

[flint folio]

Sick

[atomic topaz]

I'm really excited to play it, because I think i'm going to end up playing this all the way through
In comparison to sonic frontiers, which I sort of fell off

[flint folio]

Very glad to see

[flint folio]

fellas gaming

[glass spade]

big gaming

[atomic topaz]

Yeah, it runs so well, I love it

My new laptop actually runs vanilla generations impressively well, but not as good as this

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio hey i'm just really curious
What's your favorite level in sonic generations?

base game

Actually, a better question might be, what's your favorite classic sonic level and what's your favorite for modern sonic

[flint folio]

Rooftop run for modern,
I think seaside hill was decent for classic for speed, it’s horrid for collecting

[glass spade]

i hated collected for sonic gens

i havent even completed it

i just couldnt be arsed lol

like i think i have 3 more levels to collect the red rings and chao

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio now you can duel wield lmao

[flint folio]

AAAAAAARGH

[atomic topaz]

sonic guns akimbo

[atomic topaz]

why you became pirate???

[flint folio]

Fancied it

[atomic topaz]

Nice

wait didnt sonic prime have a pirate themed episode

they did iirc

[glass spade]

yeah they had a pirate themed dimesion

[reef vigil]

2010s worst decade for sonic honestly

i dont get why people used to call the 2000s the dark era

they actually could write characters back then (...aside from amy starting with Heroes)

the 2010s flanderized everybody, we barely got much main series games and some of them were ass, and a lot of the spinoffs were glitchy junk

like if i had to rank my overall love for the series itd be

2000s, 90s, 2020s, 2010s in dead last

[glass spade]

2010s sonic was tough as a kid

also the decade i got into sonic but thats cos off the web fan games and sa1 and 2

and the youtube animations and shit too

but like no body wanted to talk about sonic as a kid

barely any sonic merch

here atleast

now theres alot of sonic merch and shit

we got generations

in 2010s

[atomic topaz]

sonic generations came out in 2011 tho

[atomic topaz]

lol u beat me to it

But yeah, the majority of that decade was rough except for Sonic Mania

[glass spade]

oh yeah true that too

we were so back til forces

[atomic topaz]

and those came out the same year LOL

mania was 3 months before forces

we were so back... for 3 months

lol

[glass spade]

were back for 3 months...

forces was so ass 💔

i remember like beating it in nearly a sitting

knowing that the end was close dispite it only being like a couple hours

infinite wasted potential

he was so fucking cool til he wasnt

he can be redeemed surely

[atomic topaz]

So weird that they had classic sonic stages, like they were poorly trying to recapture the magic

[glass spade]

yeah

his levels were badly designed and his controls were sloppy too

just not fun

[reef vigil]

few good games

generations is pretty great but honestly its not a favorite of mine

it used to be

but it doesnt rank that highly for me anymore

i dont find myself revisiting that one much

im a little sick of classic sonic in general really

id prefer they focus on the modern era's stories and characters and continue on with the darker setting the ystarted with frontiers because its a return to form and they fixed everyone

i think as of late the games im more returning to are Adventure 2, Adventure 1, Heroes, CD, 3&Knuckles, and rush + R.A, the advanced trilogy is fun too just 2nd one is a pain to 100%

[reef vigil]

i liked infinite a lot designwise

and i thought he would make a great character

they screwed him over though in the game 😭

i think the comics handled him MUCH better

the whole zombot arc in IDW was peak asf and was what forces shouldve been

[glass spade]

i thought infinite was gonna be my new goat before forces came out

like after listening to his theme

i was like "yeah this mf is so cool no way he isnt gonna be my fav"

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-vs-infinite-sonic-forces-gif-3460896782619316638

queue this

LOL

my all time goat mopped the floor with this jackal fraud

[reef vigil]

yeahh exactly

the thing is like his backstory is really good

and i think that if they fleshed him out right

he could have been one of the best characters in the franchise

but since hes canonically dead were not getting anything of him ever again s othey cant try again :/

just fully waste

my favorite 2 characters are villains lol

[atomic topaz]

@glass spade @flint folio facepalm glitch moment

[glass spade]

LOL 😭

bro

on planet fucking wisp too

atleast its not act 2

that would be worse

but still bad

i got into loads of glitches too lemme find

[flint folio]

its 5-6 mins for a good run too

[glass spade]

yeah

[flint folio]

planet wisp can eat poo

[glass spade]

shouldve been starlight carnival

[atomic topaz]

Yeah, I think it might be my least favorite of the three 7th gen sonic stages

Crisis City and Rooftop Run slap harder than a stepfather but than planet wisp in this game is just alright

[glass spade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134569658930962515/1308918936284172328/1934b8efc7347-master_playlist.mov?ex=67751600&is=6773c480&hm=f0d3d981f34f85b862a0b4b95fa10e13b7259d229efcfdbe5e336f8ceb2d0df9&

this one isnt bad

but still like

[atomic topaz]

I I really like chemical plant

Mostly because of the music

[glass spade]

this is all i could find the rest are on my ps5 and i cant get it from the app its been more than 2 weeks

[glass spade]

real

[atomic topaz]

but its really fun

Although I do have a pretty bad memory, attached to that stage from when i was younger

When I played sonic 2 when I was younger, I could never get past that stage because of the purple water

I have since actually beat chemical plant, but it was hell for me back then

[glass spade]

yeah same i used to play the phone version

was terrible

[atomic topaz]

@glass spade i will say that a lot of the classic sonic stages in this game are actually surprisingly good

I really love the classic sonic version of city escape

That was honestly fun as fuck

[glass spade]

not the phone version but like i was just bad

[atomic topaz]

also the rooftop run one
fuck yea

[glass spade]

yeah

my fav classic level might be crisis city

classic sonic flows so well on there

its seamless too

[atomic topaz]

I think they really nailed it with what they chose to represent unleashed

[glass spade]

the level design is so good

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio would you agree?

[glass spade]

true

thats art

classic sonic gens are my fav classic sonic levels ever

they flow so well

and the level design top tier

[flint folio]

unleashed was good representation

not sure youll ever find me genuinely liking classic levels that much

[atomic topaz]

i like windmill isle too but im glad they didnt just pick the opening stage

[flint folio]

i like going quickly and playing on the fly, rather than going fast, it going wrong and that being because i dont know where im going

[flint folio]

rooftop run was a better stage anyway, more iconic bc it was the captial in the game for the professor and all sorts

[glass spade]

yeah i dont usually like classic levels as much either but generations does it right for me

[flint folio]

i did them for 100% and they're hateful

[atomic topaz]

I was skeptical of classic, but a good few of these are actually pretty fun

[flint folio]

seaside hill red rings are just all under water and your jump isnt quite high enough to skip platforms

[atomic topaz]

im assuming shadow generations doesnt have classic right

[flint folio]

he didnt exist

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

[flint folio]

so

[atomic topaz]

makes sense

just wanted to double check

lol

[flint folio]

its a frontiers hub with boost levels

better than gens

[atomic topaz]

fr?

no cap???

[flint folio]

much more my style

great fun

[atomic topaz]

It has radical highway right

Cause the 3ds version of generations failed that stage miserably

like its not even a sonic stage

but they made it one

[flint folio]

space colony, rail canyon, sunset heights, kingdom valley, chaos island, radical highway, and that tokyo dlc

[atomic topaz]

Damn i didnt want the whole list lol but thats ok

[flint folio]

you could have guessed most of those tbf

[atomic topaz]

so seven stages instead of generations' 9

[flint folio]

yeah, along with a large hub world

[atomic topaz]

8 if you count Keanu Reeves

[flint folio]

plus the challenge levels like gens has

[atomic topaz]

oh it has those too?

nice

I just figured I'd play through generations again first and then go to shadow.So that's what i'm doing

I didn't fully finish it the first time anyways

I just got to the third round of stages and didn't get to the final boss

[glass spade]

yeah i was gonna try 100% sonic gens before i went to shadow gens

but like

i got to the challenged

finished them

was gonna go for red rings and chao and then was like yeah i hate doing this

shadow gens time

[flint folio]

the chao were awful

[atomic topaz]

wait shadow has his own playable stage in frontiers?

or whole island rather?

[flint folio]

?

[atomic topaz]

chaos island

[glass spade]

its just a stage

a stage based off the island

[atomic topaz]

oh

sorry

thanks

[atomic topaz]

Damn It's unfortunate that forces got a stage

Let's just hope that when I get there i actually like it

[glass spade]

👀

[atomic topaz]

@glass spade im genuinely confused what youre even supposed to do in the final boss fight

[atomic topaz]

mvmd lol

[glass spade]

oh u got it then?

nice

mb was cleaning my room so i was busy and didnt see til now

[atomic topaz]

I was just confused, but then I realized yeah its just slow and you have to keep boosting til you get close enough to hit the thing

rince and repeat like 5 times

[glass spade]

yeah basically

good shit

[atomic topaz]

@glass spade @flint folio hey did you guys watch the dark beginnings prologue for shadow gens? bro that was actually fucking incredible

[glass spade]

yeah i watched it before i started shadow gens it’s art.

esp the song at the end

[flint folio]

Aye

[atomic topaz]

MY THOUGHT EXACTLY

I really hope that's on spotify

found it
https://open.spotify.com/track/10SqvH38YdtFQYSBKEfUl0?si=v5rTEGjPSv65qxlMMeDQBw

[reef vigil]

w pfp

one of my all time fav games

[glass spade]

hell yeah

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio pretty sure Biolizard was a boss in the 3DS version of generations, its cool they brought it back

(also sorry if im pinging you like almost every day im just very enthusiastic about this game)

[flint folio]

Viddy gam

[atomic topaz]

Bruh

[flint folio]

@atomic topaz finally saw sonic 3

[atomic topaz]

WOOHOO

awesone right?

[flint folio]

certainly the best of the 3

[atomic topaz]

yeah its crazy to say but it def is

Considering that the third movie in a trilogy being the best one is a VERY rare occuremce

[flint folio]

my only real gripe is this leans into kids film in a very different route to how the games do

it might be because im in england but the humans are so painfully american its irritating

[atomic topaz]

I really like the humans, but something I'll say is that I think the robotnik scenes while funny at times take away screentime from shadow

By the end of this movie, I kinda wished he was in it a little bit more

[flint folio]

all the sonic films have arguably the weakest you see jim carrey compared to his other films

he doesnt lean into the cartoon character he really is anywhere near as much as other films he stars in, but ive said that since sonic 1

[atomic topaz]

thats fair

We did get a lot of legit hype fan service moments though

[flint folio]

shadow and knuckles are highlights, knuckles surprises me with how entertaining he actually is

live and learn 3-4 times, also the scene from the opening of shadow the hedgehog

[atomic topaz]

Them jumping out of the helicopter being a bit of a callback to SA2's intro was nice

[flint folio]

i mean we got to hear low budget flights

[atomic topaz]

true

[flint folio]

arguably it was a little bit forced if you ask me but its nice it appears

shadows arc was always good, the change in SA2 story they took was welcome as well

[atomic topaz]

I've talked about this to other people already, but they did do kind of a version of the "faker" line

that was fun

[flint folio]

i think thats a stretch, they argue they look alike, that happens in just about every series they meet in

[atomic topaz]

Fair

I think it's meant to be an acknowledgement of that, though, to some extent

[flint folio]

also shadow comes from space rather than black doom that becomes shadow which is new

[flint folio]

id argue if sonic never called him faker you'd still get the line where they look alike, because they do

[atomic topaz]

Oh yeah shadow generations did kind of explain that to me

[atomic topaz]

Yeah true

[flint folio]

I think a lot of it was either simplified or really didnt want a 12 rating

[atomic topaz]

Fair

[flint folio]

since like tom is hospitalised for genuine days after a single punch

[atomic topaz]

What do you think of them making the chao garden into a restaurant?

[flint folio]

very japanese, quite a cute touch

[atomic topaz]

Yeah it was fun

[flint folio]

they made a chao garden cute and a neat callback without me cringing out, so it was in very good taste

[atomic topaz]

a very idiotic moment that I had while watching this movie was that I thought the person on the motorcycle was gonna ve Rouge for a second

[flint folio]

i am under the suspicion that they dont want to lean into a serious story really too often

[atomic topaz]

before coming to my senses and being like yeah that doesnt make sense

[atomic topaz]

That's kind of a vibe I was getting too

[flint folio]

rouge doesnt actually have any reason to exist yet, shes not created and is an agent with GUN, so she'd have to be written in

[atomic topaz]

Although they did actually handle his relationship with maria pretty well

[flint folio]

i enjoyed the movie, no doubt, but i might be the first to say it has ups and downs

like it doesnt do its comedy paticularly well? and i think all 3 films robotnik could be a little more slapstick and clever

[atomic topaz]

I wonder if he's actually dead

This kinda happens in every movie lol

[flint folio]

in terms of dumbing down marias relationship they do it fairly well

[atomic topaz]

But it kinda felt like he might actually be dead this time

[flint folio]

jim carrey wants to retire, so it'll be left to agent stone

[atomic topaz]

We'll just have to wait and see.I don't know if he'll come back, but there's a chance he can

[flint folio]

i hope he does go, because i'd much rather sonic 4 has more creative freedom

[atomic topaz]

Yeah, like you said about the seriousness they need to try to balance that with comedy better

Not that that was horrible here, but I think they need to work on that

[flint folio]

i genuinely dont think these films are written very well honestly

they're neat spectacles and references are certainly nice, but it ticks boxes more than "oh shit"

[atomic topaz]

Well, since they're making a fuckload of money, they still have time to improve

[flint folio]

you dont need money to write well

[atomic topaz]

That's not what I mean.I just mean like they're gonna have multiple other opportunities

[flint folio]

im glad they're doing well, and they're very good for the franchise, but genuinely these aren't paticularly funny films and it wont pick a lane

cat did laugh quite a bit on gerald robonik dying like a fly swatter though

[atomic topaz]

I still think the action was fucking peak though

[flint folio]

that death was peak

[atomic topaz]

lol yeah

And I love how remarkably accurate they were to shadow's powers and movement

[flint folio]

i dont think the action happens enough, very cool spectacle but its more of those two deleting robots for 30 seconds and then it has to switch to its next "we're not gonna make it!" moment

[atomic topaz]

His ice skating movement got to be in the movie thats a W
I'm just saying i'm happy they didn't change anything too badly in regards to him

[flint folio]

we had a LOT of intended tension and like "close shaves" that happened so often you dont really care?

like that agent giving sonic the key card died in like 30 seconds of realising who he was

[flint folio]

shadow was handled well, honestly handled the best of any character

[atomic topaz]

Yeah, I just was very impressed by that

[flint folio]

they did correctly level him as more of a grey character that isnt bad or good, but a bit of both

i just hope he stays there rather than being the grumpy sonic

[atomic topaz]

Knuckles is great in these movies too.But I would argue shadow is an even better adaptation
And despite my contempt for celebrities doing voice acting in animated movies too much Keanu is easily one of the best shadow voice actors now

[flint folio]

because sonic is genuinely irritating

Knuckles was a star of all the films he's genuinely great

i love movie knuckles

in short,
sonic is one of his most irriating,

tails is as he normally is, though

[atomic topaz]

I think Ben Schwartz is a great voice for sonic I'll say that

[flint folio]

in terms of voice, i have no gripes

[atomic topaz]

And he's genuinely enthusiastic about the character and franchise, and so I love him very much

[flint folio]

i'll have my favourites but every sonic voice that has done decent amount of media has been at least good

[atomic topaz]

But I do see what you mean about the writing for sonic

[flint folio]

oh god yeah i am understanding that actually sonic isnt a be all end all, like he's annoying and a bit egotistical in everything, but he wise cracks pop culture and its hideous

[flint folio]

ben schwartz as a bloke is terrific, im very glad he's so passionate

[atomic topaz]

Yeah perhaps they shouldn't be doing that

lol

[flint folio]

in terms of "movie canon" it makes sense

[atomic topaz]

I guess people are just leaning too much on Deadpool now

[flint folio]

thats different because deadpool is funny

sonic doesnt make me laugh a single time

[atomic topaz]

I just meant in terms of pop culture references, but yeah

[flint folio]

thats what i mean though, if youre gonna do it, i wanna laugh

[atomic topaz]

Tru

[flint folio]

sonic being a teenage alien that has only consumed recent media and wonder in america he is allowed to be that way

but i am very tired of "dance numbers"

[atomic topaz]

did you like the gerald dance scene?

[flint folio]

i dunno. every ingredient is here to make incredible films, cast is perfect, budget is there, action is plentiful
but the writing is painful at times

[atomic topaz]

i kinda liked it but kinda hated it at the same time

[flint folio]

the robotniks do not need to dance through lasers

[atomic topaz]

yeah

[flint folio]

i spend the entire time thinking they'd neglected to mask their fucking heads

i swear lasers go through jims head at least twice

[atomic topaz]

lmao

also
took them three movies to use a proper song from the games?

[flint folio]

i think you got green hill twice in the previous films

[atomic topaz]

aside from green hill

[flint folio]

i dont think it was used well enough tbh, the best usage of live and learn was maria

that, was a nice touch

[atomic topaz]

wait did i miss something

do you mean in the games?

[flint folio]

maria plays live and learn on her acoustic guitar in the film

[atomic topaz]

ohhhhhhh

missed that

thats awesome

[flint folio]

its the main riff

[atomic topaz]

Damn lol

[flint folio]

im very sad we didnt get the intro to the song, with the big noise at the start

[atomic topaz]

yeah

i wish theyd used live and learn AND city escape but there wasnt realy a proper context for that song

[flint folio]

well its because GUN werent anything more than generic army people with science

[atomic topaz]

True!

gun truck chasing sonic in live action wouldve been so cool

[flint folio]

i think the whole film tried to cram as much plot from a few games as possible

[atomic topaz]

mostly just sa2 tho?

[flint folio]

to the point where it could only really develop shadow

they had to explain shadow existing, who robotniks father was, what happened to him and stone, maria, and had to spawn the ark from the river thames

[atomic topaz]

i guess they wont ever need to bring in Black Doom later im assuming

[flint folio]

gotta remember in SA2 maria has always been on the ark because shes terminally unwell, shes not even properly shot in sonic 3 shes just unlucky to die

black doom cant exist in the same context, he was supposed to be the alien meteor but instead it was shadow himself

[atomic topaz]

ohhhhh

guess i hadnt realized they changed the context for maria

[flint folio]

maria isnt ill at all in sonic 3

[atomic topaz]

but the broad strokes of her dying and shadow wanting revenge still remains

[flint folio]

shes on the ark because gerald robotnik is doing a lot of science to cure her

weird for me to say they wouldnt even properly shoot her

[atomic topaz]

damn

[flint folio]

because from how the scene went shadow wouldnt really know if they were even planning to kill maria at all and just him

[atomic topaz]

i do kinda like the idea of her being ill more tho?

damn

adds more weight i think

[flint folio]

maria being unwell and robotnik desperately working to cure her as she makes shadow leaves robotnik as grey as shadow, because he shows true compassion

and if GUN didnt assassinate the whole project its fairly likely she would have lived

[atomic topaz]

cant really do much of that tho if gun is just generic military guys right

[flint folio]

well i just think they didnt do enough or explain them paticiularly well

[atomic topaz]

Yeah 100 percent

[flint folio]

to the average viewer what do they even know about gun

[atomic topaz]

they just show up

[flint folio]

just like oh this is military but with extra science

[atomic topaz]

theres pretty much borderline zero explanation

[flint folio]

this is what i mean, its crammed into one film

[atomic topaz]

werent they in sonic 2 movie?

[flint folio]

like you waste a lot of screen time by needing to shoot the ark into space, and explain that

if its already there like a satellite you can develop its large gun later

also
why is the master emerald with that guy

the master emerald was a little more than a quick gag

[atomic topaz]

oh shiiiiiit

thats tru

that sucks

I didnt even finish the knuckles series so i found that especially obnoxious

[flint folio]

i have not thought any of the movies were written paticularly well in this regard

im glad they're doing so well, but the stories arent engaging, and they so often throw turmoil and desperation into scenes that do not excite me

they did the "this is the life im so relaxed and its so quiet" before something immediately happening TWICE

[atomic topaz]

i hope they find a way to make metal sonic more interesting

dont know if they can or will

[flint folio]

metal sonic is cool as shit im more interested into how they write amy

[atomic topaz]

Me too

[flint folio]

also amy looks like cat and i will tease her for that

[atomic topaz]

make her more than a simp right???

[flint folio]

amy is a badass with a crush and thats what she should be

[atomic topaz]

she looked very badass when she showed up

[flint folio]

amy is a perfect little model for younger girls, she does a bit of everything

and if these movies wanna really force the "valued lessons" shes a good option to do that in a nicer way

[atomic topaz]

I just think in some sonic media shes been portrayed as the crush on sonic being her whole thing

[flint folio]

amy hasnt been any good in years, she was best in sonic x, and maybe adventure 1 and 2

[atomic topaz]

kinda one dimensional

[flint folio]

as a character she has it all, im very glad her hammer is back

very positive for movie amy

[atomic topaz]

maybe lean a bit more into her being a badass with a hammer

[flint folio]

id much rather sonic become the simp this time around

he has more simp energy

[atomic topaz]

bro he does lol

[flint folio]

id rather watch amy send robots into space with a hammer with a girl power quip or something

[atomic topaz]

also if sonic 4 involves amy and metal sonic then the movie is basically a loose adaptation of Sonic CD

[flint folio]

wouldnt be a terrible idea

[atomic topaz]

i wonder what other stuff from that game they could cram in there

[flint folio]

metal vs amy leading to a grand adventure to her rescue makes some sense

if they plan for a Sonic "cinematic universe" i'd wager shadow does something totally different

[atomic topaz]

The movies have rarely included locations from the games or references to stages

aside from the Ark in this movie we're talking about

[flint folio]

green hills is about it

[atomic topaz]

rip

[atomic topaz]

i mean tokyo was kinda reminiscent of where sonic and shadow first meet in sa2

but still different

[flint folio]

i mean, sure

but lets not make leaps

[atomic topaz]

Ik

just did notice that when i watched it

both scenes take place at night

i think

[flint folio]

that is more just how you create drama

[atomic topaz]

yeah

I just wanted to also say that its great that they did the sonic and shadow epic pose thing

their fight at the end was the real standout thing in the movie for me personally

[flint folio]

shadows whole arc is pretty much the point of the film so stands out the best

havent really developed a rivalry yet tho

[atomic topaz]

i dont know if this is a hot take but i really want them to attempt Silver at some point

[flint folio]

whats weird is that was the first question my dad had about post credits

silver is a great shout

[atomic topaz]

silver seems like a pretty decent character

[flint folio]

06 silver is really good

[atomic topaz]

it just seems people assume he sucks just because they all hate 06 as a game

[flint folio]

sonic films could be elongated sonic x episodes if they wanted

silver sucks because after 06 he does

[atomic topaz]

oh

[flint folio]

hes fairly pointless after because hes never explained why hes even there

[atomic topaz]

Tbf forces iirc shoves like every sonic character in there for no reason

[flint folio]

yeah generally

silver is a terrific shout for the films

[atomic topaz]

yeah it can work if he actually works in the game he first appears in

movies dont have the luxury of carrying over everything in every sequel

[flint folio]

generally yeah

idk, i have plenty of faith for the movies, still have my reservations lol

[atomic topaz]

that is completely valid

[flint folio]

my TLDR takeaway is the cast is terrific, ideas are present and generally writing is poor

[atomic topaz]

i just think Jeff Folwer does seem passionate about this franchise and thats nice
we already know he listens to fans' feedback considering the Ugly Sonic fiasco

[flint folio]

like i say i do commend the passion, and little touches like the sonic collapse from shadow the hedgehog didnt go unnoticed

[atomic topaz]

omg i didnt notice that

it makes sense hed reference the shadow game tho considering he worked on it

[flint folio]

when they first meet and shadow beats all 3 up, its precisely as sonic quips "he can take all 3 of us"

[atomic topaz]

oh so thats ripped from it verbatim

Nice

[flint folio]

its the same style of struggling to get up, my favourite touch

[atomic topaz]

shadow with a gun moment was also appreciated tho the impact was lessened by it being shown in trailer 2

[flint folio]

yeah but its nice,

[atomic topaz]

very nice

[flint folio]

generic that nobody can hit shit tho

best action segments is sonic gymnastics while running

[atomic topaz]

Now can we give him that submachine gun in sonic 4 for absolutely no reason

[flint folio]

pump action smg no less

[atomic topaz]

YEA

i forgot about that

2005 was such a wild time

[atomic topaz]

sonic parkour

[flint folio]

p much

you know what i mean

[atomic topaz]

yeah

Just tryna think if theres anything else i wanna say about the movie rn
now that we were finally able to have the discussion

[flint folio]

weve had quite an extensive chat already tbf

[atomic topaz]

ik

[flint folio]

in general ive come out the most negative out of anyone

[atomic topaz]

i see your reasoning for it tho

[flint folio]

i have a real thing for clever writing or being less obvious about intentions

also not being painfully american

[atomic topaz]

lol

valid

[flint folio]

like the high 5s after a quip or being stupid when theres drama in infiltration

it shows more arrogance than comedy in stressful moments

[atomic topaz]

i dont like to bash my own massive fandom like this
but its the MCU-ification of franchise movies

[flint folio]

you might be right actually

[atomic topaz]

quips where they dont need to be ruining serious moments

[flint folio]

in britain you can do quips very tastefully but its because we are like that

[atomic topaz]

lol

[flint folio]

american versions of this make you seem like you dont have a care in the world

[atomic topaz]

when i read this i imagined you folding your arms while wearing sunglasses

[flint folio]

incredibly thats exactly my point

[atomic topaz]

[flint folio]

thats a very american way of saying that phrase

in england you say it more as a matter of fact rather than needing to pretend to drop a mic

[atomic topaz]

thats fair

go ahead then make british sonic

[flint folio]

where do i apply

[atomic topaz]

Go to simon pegg's office

[reef vigil]

cd is peak

honestly hot take but

i kind aprefer it to sonic 2 as a sequel

its just a bit more fun to me overall

[atomic topaz]

i just found a really cool thing @glass spade @flint folio
https://youtu.be/XPAFMsgorro?si=zpeYIu5Ug5BK6pTv

[atomic topaz]

very fun to see which tracks they chose

[glass spade]

no way they made a mashup of that

[glass spade]

yessirki

[atomic topaz]

its honestly pretty tight

[glass spade]

imma peep it in abit

looks lit

[atomic topaz]

it is

its also includes HT's bonus tracks which is cool

which means more mashups than youd expect

[flint folio]

https://x.com/culturecrave/status/1875004218974818755?s=46&t=qpZEvySJipYT1Z7ETNg5oA

Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) on X

Jim Carrey says he's open to returning as Doctor Robotnik for #Sonic4

(via @cinematoday)

Twitter · Jan 3, 2025, 2:20 AM

I take it back Jim can play this cunt as long as he wants if he loves it

[atomic topaz]

yeah i was getting the vibe from his recent interviews that hes all in

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio you most likely wont see this for another few hours but i finally got astro bot : )))

[flint folio]

GOTY ❤️

[reef vigil]

oh shit

i thought he retire

d

YES IM GLAD

i hope he returns

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio @glass spade thoughts on sunset hights in shadow generations?

[flint folio]

Very good

[atomic topaz]

I was a little hesitant on playing a sonic forces level, but I do think it's pretty solid

didnt most people think the level design was bland in that game

Now time for sonic 06

[flint folio]

Skeet I think it’s slightly naive to see a level is from a mid game so the level will be mid

Humours me that you’d be hesitant

[atomic topaz]

Okay I'll admit that was an exaggeration

Kind of forgot it was from forces at first

Also in kingdom valley Shadow riding on a bald eagle is so badass

like damn

[glass spade]

peak

i love it

[glass spade]

kingdom valley stage the best one imo

its perfect

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio do I have to have C rank on the stages to progress to the challenge stages

sunset heights and kingdom valley are done but the challenge stages arent appearing

did i miss something

@glass spade ?

[glass spade]

did u miss act 2s?

thats weird

[atomic topaz]

no

[glass spade]

strange

[atomic topaz]

I got D rank on 3/4 of those acts

[glass spade]

oh wait no i think maybe u have to replay sunset heights again?

[atomic topaz]

do i?

[glass spade]

check if theres any ! near it

i remember having to replay that

[atomic topaz]

Not seeing an exclamation point

[atomic topaz]

Wait why do I have no rank on space colony ark act two

[flint folio]

Are you not doing that

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I have D on a couple

[glass spade]

damn im not sure

ur copy cursed 😭

[atomic topaz]

Bro i hope not

[atomic topaz]

Actually I was just being stupid
Turns out you just have to go up to the boss tower first and then they appear

I didn't think that's how it would be

[glass spade]

oh 😭

oh yeah true tbh

forgot u had to do that

[atomic topaz]

Well either way i'm at the metal overlord boss now

this is pretty sick

I love how they have banter during the fight

"i am the true ultimate life form"
"dont make me laugh"

[glass spade]

yeah esp with what im made of

so hype

ik love that song

[atomic topaz]

i really love the sunset heights music

[atomic topaz]

the FUNNIEST thing just happened omg @glass spade @flint folio
i activated chaos control then accidentally fell off the stage so i just hear shadow go
"this is the ultimate NOOOOO!!!!"

[atomic topaz]

@glass spade also wait
is there a boss BEFORE radical highway?

why would they do it that way

it only showed my one stage option
did chaos island then the big epic sonic vs shadow cutscene happens then boss keys again already???

thats a weird structure

[glass spade]

yeah

its a bit weird but like

its a good fucking boss

ill let u get to it

[atomic topaz]

nah i already know its mephiles

but i havent played sonic 06 but a website spoiled it for me by accident

[glass spade]

yeah hgoes so hard

[atomic topaz]

im excited

have to do those damn challenges tho

[glass spade]

youve not played 06?

fairs

it runs awful on ps3 idk about xbox 360

[atomic topaz]

im thinking of getting project 06

[glass spade]

good idea

its pretty good

[atomic topaz]

i have a laptop i think can run it

[glass spade]

tho when i ran it through a VM

my mac was literally so hot it could cook a steak

[atomic topaz]

is the whole thing finished yet?

[glass spade]

no

well

[atomic topaz]

fuck

[glass spade]

it has

its like 80% finished

it has sonic shadow an silvers levels all done

[atomic topaz]

whats not there

[glass spade]

now chaosX (creator) is just doing the bosses and the last stage

[atomic topaz]

ohhhh

[glass spade]

he is not gonna implement hub world or cutscenes in it tho

which is fair

hubworld is mid and cutscenes atp just watch it on youtube

[atomic topaz]

i kinda dont like that ngl

[glass spade]

tbh

he has been working on it for like

the last 8 years

i dont blame him just wanting to do the important things and then move past it

i mean there will probs be mods and stuff by other people that could implement stuff like that?

not sure

but it wont be done by chaos x

[atomic topaz]

damn does he not have a team

of at least like 3 other people

[glass spade]

uh

not sure

i think he has people helping him with things

but mainly its just done by him i believe

[flint folio]

My favourite story about this project is fella had never played the game until last year or so

[flint folio]

Kid Joe loved running full pelt around the hub words, I’m upset it’s not there

[glass spade]

as a kid that’s fair

i probs have the same nostalgia for sa1 hubworlds

[flint folio]

Plus having run around-able hub words is only really in SA1 and 06 until you get to shadow gens, I find it odd to stop at a full game that isn’t pieced together

Like it seems odd to spend so long on any project and stop.. here?

[glass spade]

yeah true i thought that too, but he’s probably just getting to the point of exhaustion from it

there will probs be mods to add the hubworlds and story to it i suppose

[flint folio]

I mean, end of the day they’re the dev and do whatever they want, but it is odd to me

Also P06 is wild good

I pray for all of time that unleashed gets the same, I shouldn’t like 06 as much as I do but I’ve played it so often most bugs don’t affect me, and mindlessly spamming attack is nice sometimes

I loved that P06 made that mindless spam have meaning though

[atomic topaz]

Do the bugs really make the game unplayable or no
cause it has been janky in my experience but after this generations playthrough im wanting to go back to other sonic games

[flint folio]

Oh god 06 isn’t unplayable at all, glitches are silly but like, not as often as it seems? Like I have been flung off loops before, but it’s never happened more than once on the same loop, I just had to hold a direction

Games not buggy it’s just very clearly in an early alpha and then it was printed

More fortunately none of the bosses were broken, I’m quite shocked tbh

[atomic topaz]

This is one of the reasons i'm fascinated by you as a person, because i've never met anyone else that likes 06 that much

But I can also learn from you in that way

[flint folio]

Also damn you’re 25 hours deep into sonic x shadow? Props

[atomic topaz]

Wait really

I hadn't kept track at all

Well for 1 thing, I keep dying on stages a lot

[flint folio]

Just checked who was online

[atomic topaz]

I was excited for radical highway, but those spinning platforms in act 2 were really annoying

Maybe I was doing it wrong.I don't know

[flint folio]

Mixture of childhood game, and really clinging to the things that make it unique, I’ve always felt really different not really caring about momentum to the point where my opinions seem really different

[atomic topaz]

Also, according to you, aren't the shadow levels like really good

[flint folio]

06 had so much going for it, where as a child I was genuinely invested in the story, and it felt almost mature

Small me didn’t care that the game was broken because when I was young I didn’t notice?

[atomic topaz]

So no wonder they put kingdom valley in here

[flint folio]

Which game?

[atomic topaz]

06

[flint folio]

Shadow is just fun to control, spamming through enemies makes him feel like a badass

Shadow is good in every game he’s in he’s the GOAT

[atomic topaz]

True

I haven't talked a lot about shadow gens to you yet, like as a whole
but I really love the cutscenes in this game

[glass spade]

sonic 06 on ps3 was hard for me to play cos of the slowdowns

[atomic topaz]

DudeI was so hype when they played the cut scene of the rival battle from generations

[glass spade]

idk if the 360 version has it

[atomic topaz]

Just seeing that in a different way was so cool

[flint folio]

Shadow gens is peak, I don’t think it’s writing is perfect but I was really enjoying shadows voice actor finally getting a proper primary role

[atomic topaz]

Wait who's the new shadow voice actor

[glass spade]

his voice work has gotten a lot better aswell

he used to be shit before

[glass spade]

kirk thornton

[flint folio]

Well Kirk has been his VA for a while but hasn’t actually been doing much

[atomic topaz]

Yeah, just sounds like shadow to me it doesn't bother me at all that hes not Jason

[flint folio]

Shadow gens is his first full game

[glass spade]

yeah pretty sure like he was only in gens and then the boom games and show

that’s all we got

[atomic topaz]

Especially after keanu as shadow, I don't know it just sounds right

[flint folio]

I’ll always love Jason but I have really grown to like Roger and Kirk, Roger especially bc he encapsulates when sonic is an irritating knob and a mature character

[atomic topaz]

Dude has hella range too honestly

Roger i mean

Dude can play sonic AND batman

I couldn't find two more opposite parts of a spectrum if I tried

[flint folio]

Precisely that

[atomic topaz]

It's times like this, where we can really take the time to appreciate and rejoice that he did not leave the character

At least for now

Also I just saw some Comic Con videos from like the past couple years of jason griffith and I can honestly understand why he's not sonic anymore
I don't think he has the voice down that much anymore

Maybe it was wearing his voice down too much because he struggles to sound exactly like he did back then

at least for sonic, he seems to still do a shadow voice pretty well

Anyways imma peep this final boss on shadow gens

@flint folio i haven't finished it yet, but I just gotta say right now. This final boss fight is DEFINITELY better than the one in regular generations

[flint folio]

Out of practice, but actually when he does chats he’s still got it, easy

[flint folio]

Of course, it’s peak

[atomic topaz]

OH MY GOD THEY STARTED PLAYING ALL HAIL SHADOW IM NUTTING

I wish all hail shadow was in sonic 3 movie

[atomic topaz]

Why did original gens boss fight have to be so... boring

like its cool seeing double super sonic but its just slow and doesnt feel very exciting the way shadow vs black doom does

Plus every other member of the sonic keeps repeating the same lines over and over

[flint folio]

It looks like a homing shot

[atomic topaz]

YEAH

Why couldn't they stop saying that? It was so ridiculous

[flint folio]

Doing that fucking trophy of the boss without getting hit is a pain in the arse

Bc you get close to hitting the boss but it doesn’t let you hit it sometimes

[atomic topaz]

Meanwhile the shadow final boss is just peak over the top anime energy and i love it

It's just very impressive how they really outdid themselves this much 13 years later

[atomic topaz]

It took me a while to realize how I was supposed to even hit that thing

[flint folio]

Oh mate it’s dogshit

[atomic topaz]

Fr

I was just sitting here like, what the fuck is this

Some have said the 3DS version of that is better, idk

[flint folio]

Neither is any good

[atomic topaz]

Fair

[atomic topaz]

Also, is that fight pulled from shadow 2005 or is it completely original

I mean I know the character is from the shadow game

[flint folio]

Original

[glass spade]

sega have been cooking with the anime type bossfights since frontiers man

its peak

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio

Dammmmmmm sonic x i was not familiar with your game

[flint folio]

Damn quite the repost this week

[atomic topaz]

Oh

I didn't know that was happening

I just randomly saw this

[flint folio]

Yeah it’s all good

[atomic topaz]

cool tho!

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio Ngl i think i might actually go back to play more of sonic forces

[flint folio]

Yo?

[atomic topaz]

Just to see what amount of good is actually in there

[flint folio]

Forces isn’t bad, by any stretch

It’s just not great

It’s well put together, just not massively good

[atomic topaz]

some memorable stages at least?

[flint folio]

I think sonics levels are more junk food levels, they’re not tough, but you can have fun. And I do!

Sunset heights is basic but fun to speedrun, I believe Eggman Fortress level 27? Is really fun to speedrun, quite an epic hold boost level.

[atomic topaz]

Don't you play as other characters in some stages

Aside from the created character

[flint folio]

Sonic forces has modern, classic, avatar and sonic/avatar

[atomic topaz]

So do you not play as shadow in sunset heights?

[flint folio]

Episode shadow, the free DLC, has levels in that region

[atomic topaz]

ohhhhhh

so THATS why they used it lol

[flint folio]

It’s a free prequel DLC about infinite

[atomic topaz]

Feels like a technicality but the stage is good so its whatever

[flint folio]

Yeah, sonic forces is like 3 hours long to just “play” so it’s worth having played. I’ve 100% the game like 3 times

[flint folio]

Not really, he was there in the story

[atomic topaz]

Fair

is the story like

a huge mess?

[flint folio]

Mess? No. Bad? Yeah

It’s coherent, just not very good

[atomic topaz]

that opening where just everyone shows up for no reason is such a meme lol

[flint folio]

It’s infinites doing, generally
Except zavok

[atomic topaz]

lost world guy is in forces? lol i forgot about that

[glass spade]

infinite has one of the coolest designs and theme in the series

but thats where my praise for forces stops

fist bump is pretty good too

[atomic topaz]

I bet the majority of the music is good

Because that's true of like pretty much every sonic game

Name the worst sonic game you can think of, the soundtrack probably bangs

[glass spade]

sonic chronicles dark brotherhood

[atomic topaz]

Sonic in the secret rings is trash because of the controls but MY GOD the music is great

[glass spade]

the palace that was found

nostalgia

mainly cos of the cobanermani456 intro

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio after playing shadow generations i had a thought- isnt the sonic movie 3 version of gerald rather different? the Gerald in shadow gens seems more on the good side

[flint folio]

Oh yeah he’s just eggman again

[atomic topaz]

Yeah

[glass spade]

had to rewatch..

but this time i watched it in 4DX

where like the seats move

and there’s wind lights and water

it was so good esp during the fight scenes

holy

[flint folio]

finally an apt time to say sonic made me wet

[glass spade]

LOL

[atomic topaz]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3K1FyV26yQOGNZ0G8Vd1Qm?si=2HWLATR8Q06i2AOlYgfALA@quo.

insanely good jazz cover

@glass spade

[glass spade]

listening

holy shit that was so fucking good man

what the fuck

i fuck with

[atomic topaz]

i decided to hook up my wii u just to finish sonic colors

i was on like the second to last zone

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio bro asteroid coaster act 3 is so wack

[flint folio]

They all phase into one I forget what that is

[atomic topaz]

i beat it so nevermind lmao

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio i decided to play sonic and the black knight, and I think I might actually follow through and beat it this time
I already am actually enjoying this game quite a bit, I think it's kind of underrated

[flint folio]

He has a lot of fans that one

I’ve never finished it

[atomic topaz]

im noticing that its one of the legit best portrayals of sonic's additude

[flint folio]

its a very good sonic

also last of jason so

[atomic topaz]

shit I didn't realize that

For some reason, I thought unleashed came out after but i was mistaken

[reef vigil]

honestly

i dont hate sonic water levels

some of them are fun

tidal tempest is objectively amazing

aquatic ruins zone is beautiful and plus you can even skip the entire water

hydrocity is peak af too

so are some of the 8-bit game gear games' stages

really the only one i found myself despising was parts of chemical plant zone and also labyrinth zone

specifically where the 'chemicals' rise and yo uget trapped and have to platform your way up on moving blocks that can easily crush you in chemical plant

and the boss fight where the little platforms that are hard to distinguish from where youre supposed to stand kinda bs + the endless pits

i always thought most the hate for them came from labyrinth zone tbh

[atomic topaz]

Decided to try team sonic racing again

Yeah, I just don't think I vibe with this game as much as I do transformed

I don't know if it's just me, but i feel like the driving doesnt flow as well as in that game

like it is fun sure, i like the drifting still

im just not super impressed with it

[flint folio]

Focusing on team gameplay when you just don’t have that it bloody tough to have any fun with

Plus if you race the boost at the end needs to be done right at the end of exactly twice a race or you lose

[ornate oyster]

@atomic topaz

[reef vigil]

i love team sonic racing

but

i prefer sonic R

im i nthe very small minority of sonic R enjoyers

the PC version controls are kinda fixed and not as jank + it has better models and textures and i love it

just wish it had more stages </3

also love sonic drift 2, underrated

||the main reason totally isnt just for the fact it has fang! 💀||

[full sage]

Honestly I've always enjoyed Sonic R, it's not that great but I have fun with it

The unlockable characters like Metal Knuckles are cool as hell and it's funny how broken Super Sonic is

Also the music is iconic

[flint folio]

sonic r is peak more running races for sonic wtf

[reef vigil]

i think its pretty good as a game, mainly the pc port version; the original saturn versio nis jank asf but they fixed a lot of the issues with it o nthe port

plus the stagesa re pretty well designed, i love the way yo uget the emeralds and unlock characters, and its cool having the ability to explore all these ddifferent pathways from the main route

[atomic topaz]

i wish they had brought that female singer back for more sonic osts

[reef vigil]

SAME

the ost is so 90s but its so good

[atomic topaz]

@flint folio hi sorry i know its late but im sure you'll see this in the morning, i could use your help with something lol
would you be able to tell me what song this is at around the 32:00 mark? this video doesnt have timestamps or even any songs names in the description or comments, ive heard the song before but i just cant for the life of me remember which sonic game it is
https://youtu.be/ocL0PI2gmTs?si=OsVrpJno0l-dU15G

[flint folio]

Empire city night hub world from sonic unleashed

100% sure

Nighttime sonic unleashed music is really good background Lofi

[glass spade]

the dream is one day to play werehog stages in an apartment complex building in a city with a great skyline at night time with only led light illuminating the room

ultimate vibe

if i never do that i didnt live right

[atomic topaz]

bro whoever did the drumming on the Sonic and tbe Secret Rings OST, i hope they got a fuckin raise

[flint folio]

Is that even possible would they not have been contracted

[atomic topaz]

shit idk hadnt thought about hat

[flint folio]

@atomic topaz woo

[atomic topaz]

yoooooo i hope you like it!!!

excited to hear what you think

unrelated- Bro radical highway is so good i have 4 versions of it on my sonic playlist

[flint folio]

Me too, looks better than TSR for real but very different to know how it compares to transformed

[atomic topaz]

they let us know out the gate with that SOP trailer that they are aware of how much of a fan favorite transformed is

that had me hyped

i find it strange to bring back gameplay elements of that game without bringing back the element of other sega IPs as characters

but it looks cool

[flint folio]

https://www.thegamer.com/sonic-racing-crossworlds-23-characters-other-sega-games/

[atomic topaz]

I just got hit by two large semi trucks holy shit

[flint folio]

I think it’ll touch on other IPs for sure but focus on sonic

[atomic topaz]

One represents my excitement at that announcement, and the other represents me being so mistaken

[flint folio]

Crossword could easily link to other things

Also that track on the trailer could have been the afterburner race from transformed ?

[atomic topaz]

Yeah I think it is

[flint folio]

Slam dunk then

[atomic topaz]

That song is stuck in my head.I love that track so much

If they're minimizing the amount of other sega characters who do you think would be essential to include?

id go with Jet Set Radio for one

thats a no brainer for me

[atomic topaz]

Also, that stage was a great example of how they can use stages from other series without having to have a character for it
like i dont think after burner had a playable character
cuz the games are just jets lol

[glass spade]

will be waiting for kiryu

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-drive-driving-meme-gif-7425622647647710650

[atomic topaz]

I think would be funnier if it was majima

IMO he has a more iconic look with the eyepatch and everything

[glass spade]

yeah they could do both easily theyre both as iconic as each other

cant wait for them to come to fortnite

vbucks will be spent in large amounts that day...

[flint folio]

Y’know what, I quite like this game

It’s manic as shit and a decent little racer

[atomic topaz]

youve tried the cbt already?

[flint folio]

Sonic racing crossworlds has potential

[atomic topaz]

hell yea!!!

[flint folio]

I’m on it now, online races only and it’s just spam

Quite fun

[atomic topaz]

It's like a demo build with less characters, right?

Is that the type of thing it is

[flint folio]

Total roster

Sorry it’s cut off but you can see everyone

[atomic topaz]

immediate thought- why is sega always doubling down on the deadly six

I'm not trying to hate but it is funny

[flint folio]

They’re valid members of the sonic cast I guess

Zavok is at least but idk

I still don’t like how this game looks

[atomic topaz]

I mean i guess

They just seem to be met with a lot of apathy from the fanbase

[atomic topaz]

damn fr?

[flint folio]

But, the cast is VAST

[atomic topaz]

Yeah the fact that it says "so many more"

[flint folio]

It all has this weird hue and glow to it all, nothing feels sharp

[atomic topaz]

Damn yeah i see that

Also out of curiosity, would I be able to get into this test?

[flint folio]

This is on a ps5 pro on a 4k monitor

Not anymore? I don’t think

Sign up ended 2 days ago

[atomic topaz]

is it too late?

Ah fuck

Welp thats ok

[flint folio]

Started when it was announced

I very much doubt this game is far away though

[atomic topaz]

Your analysis of the test is good enough for me

[flint folio]

I’ll provide what I can

[atomic topaz]

What do you think of the track design so far?

[atomic topaz]

They haven't provided a release date yet, have they

[flint folio]

No but this feels super playable

[atomic topaz]

Do you feel like the gameplay is an improvement over tsr?

[flint folio]

Mate I’m playing on line this is mariokart wii levels of hectic lmao

[atomic topaz]

lol

Understandable