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atomic topaz
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does 360 have like a 30fps cap

flint folio
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Yes

atomic topaz
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or is it 60 too

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Oh

flint folio
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The ps3 hits 60fps about as often as the moon hits the earth

atomic topaz
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lol

flint folio
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The ps3 version has better colours, and has like.. one level where it’s 60, otherwise the 360 version is more stable - both are fine.
The frame rate is poor on both but that’s such a small price to pay for such a good game

atomic topaz
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it also tends to run multiplatform games glitchier/less stable then the 360 version

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because of its hardware being all "unique"

flint folio
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You’re telling me stuff I already know

atomic topaz
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i know

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its still fun to type it tho, idk

flint folio
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I just don’t want you going off on one about some consoles I was just answering your queries on sonic unleashed

atomic topaz
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thats fine

flint folio
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That being said I do want to 100% unleashed on ps3, I got a good chunk of the trophies

atomic topaz
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ive been thinking of ordering the 3DS sonic games i dont have

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lost world and fire ice

glass spade
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xbox one is toaster?

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what xbox one did u use

flint folio
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Well, the Xbox one

atomic topaz
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i feel like maybe the werehog levels got me to stop playing it for awhile

flint folio
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You know, all the others have names too

glass spade
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yeah theres like 3

flint folio
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Which aren’t called Xbox one

glass spade
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the OG, S and X

flint folio
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What is the OG called

glass spade
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mine ran fine on the S

atomic topaz
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they arent terrible but pretty slow at times, especially if you mess up the platforming

glass spade
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but still

flint folio
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That’s because the S has actually slightly better power

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The OG XBone is an actual toaster

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The One S actually had some upgrades

atomic topaz
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can someone send me a series x ty

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send it to me via giant bird

flint folio
glass spade
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one S is pretty goated tbh

atomic topaz
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fs

flint folio
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Sonic Unleashed is entirely based on how much you like the werehog

atomic topaz
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i just like going fast

flint folio
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The combo YYXXX or the Donkey kick? I think it’s called is the only move you need

atomic topaz
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frontiers has nailed that

glass spade
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obviously frontiers is new and itll go down

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but this is crazy

flint folio
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Frontiers is only going down because of Dunkey causing ape brains to react

glass spade
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dunkeys video was funny tho tbh

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his voice just makes everything funny

flint folio
atomic topaz
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Yea

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thats very tru

flint folio
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Sure, but the fan base reaction has meant frontiers is being reviewbombed with 0s to get it to be lower

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And even if you don’t like it, it’s not a 0 is it lol

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I understood the 72% as well as people giving it 9s and 10s

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I even understood the 4/10 it got from Nintendo Life to an extent

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But just spamming 0s because of youtube is really sad

glass spade
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no way we've been through hundreds of thousands of years of evolution and review bombing is a reaction that people have when seeing something they like is rated lower to something they feel is inferior

flint folio
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It’s just sad, but the game still sits at 8.5+ so it’s fine I suppose

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I gave the game a 9/10 since it just had a few things missing, and some polish, from being perfect

atomic topaz
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i dont understand how that game can be review bombed
its not like its a minority led franchise movie/show

glass spade
atomic topaz
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the internet can rlly suck

flint folio
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Sonic bad
0/10

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What baffles me is how small sonic team is, and how desperately this game says they need more employees

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The reason these games come out and need delays is they simply need forever to make them, there’s 60 of the cunts

atomic topaz
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oh yeah that does actually make sense

flint folio
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Like, these guys should not be capable of massive open area 3D platformers of AAA stature

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There’s a reason there’s so much oversight, because meeting SEGAs deadlines while still making a good game means they have too, otherwise it would have come out late 2023 lol

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And sure, give them that time but these games are sure as hell not long enough to warrant it, you can finish everything but maxing yourself out in like 35 hours

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Just the main story is about 15

glass spade
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maybe the postive reviews of this game may push sega that way

atomic topaz
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sonic rush 3

glass spade
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feel like since 06 theyve been scared to make anything massively ambitious

atomic topaz
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i am such a whore for bringing back forgotten series

flint folio
atomic topaz
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quo did you mean ambitious

glass spade
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yeah

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wtf

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my brain did a bleh

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my bad

flint folio
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06 made them bin adventure style, and unleashed made them bin ambition and story telling, made colours.. which had next to no story and similar gameplay, and did great - they took the wrong message

glass spade
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yeah

flint folio
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Colours was pretty good, but it was a backwards step in game design

atomic topaz
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i just dont think its good that we havent had an original unique 2D sonic game in 15 years

glass spade
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should i unwrap my steelbook for frontiers

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its still in the plastic wrap

flint folio
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Mine came with a dent so whatever

glass spade
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WHAT

atomic topaz
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well does sonic 4 count

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prolly not

flint folio
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Barely

atomic topaz
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its a sequel to sonic 3 and knuckles and also bad

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i dont even need rush 3 to be honest

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just something that follows in its footsteps

glass spade
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sonic and the dark brotherhood

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or something like that i forgot

atomic topaz
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advance and rush proved that 2d sonic doesnt have to look like genesis

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and i love it for that

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like now, considering how much mania relied on genesis nostalgia, rush really stands out

flint folio
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Skeet is really like ok anyway about sonic rush

atomic topaz
glass spade
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a beautiful mess idc

grizzled stone
atomic topaz
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Yeah blame the Shrek 3 video game on why the ps3 lost to the 360

grizzled stone
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YES

atomic topaz
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YES

flint folio
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Most mundane Frontiers DLC just dropped

glass spade
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shits giving black night vibes

flint folio
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It’s the helmet, straight outta black knight

atomic topaz
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with dead animal skin

next tartan
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"oh look at this those reviews are very good I wonder why" and suddenly it gets a .2 reduction in score? It is not a coincidence lol

ornate oyster
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I watched one review and it said the game was better than expected but not great

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Just good

glass spade
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we fr can never have fun lol

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sonic fans finally get a fun nice game to play

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after like

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whenever generations came out

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and mfs dont wanna see us happy

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wtf

next tartan
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@flint folio quick you gotta learn Japanese

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They're looking for ppl to work on the sonic series

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I thiught that image was from black Knight for a seco d

glass spade
glass spade
atomic topaz
glass spade
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they should fr have just like

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stuck with the 06 design

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that was peak sonic

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good model

atomic topaz
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uh

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thats debatable

glass spade
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what do u thinks the best model?

atomic topaz
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his eyes always looked kinda off to me in 06

next tartan
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Sonic adventure model all the way

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Have you seen the supersonic mod for frontiers which replaces the super sonic model with one modelled after adventure? It looks 10 times better

atomic topaz
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i forgot frontiers came out for pc

next tartan
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Maybe sa2 model over sonic adventure but those two had the best models

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I did too

flint folio
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Unleashed model peak

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06 was cool but not as good

atomic topaz
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the face is just kinda off a bit

next tartan
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Mm

atomic topaz
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its like overly serious?

next tartan
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The proportions bug me somewhat

atomic topaz
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or something like that

grizzled stone
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Unleashed is my jam for Sonic design

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Also the non-sonic bits, like the people

glass spade
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what do you lot think is the best sonic ost?

grizzled stone
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Heroes maybe

next tartan
atomic topaz
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sonic rush and rush adventure is a standout for me

flint folio
atomic topaz
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joe bouta be like "classic skeet moment"

next tartan
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Sonic rush IS a classic soundtrack

atomic topaz
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yea

next tartan
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But it is not on Spotify

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Which I am fuming about

atomic topaz
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Jet set radio guy

next tartan
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Hideki naganuma

flint folio
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i should write a post-it note to not mention sonic rush otherwise skeet will be gone for 20 minutes

atomic topaz
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Ye

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huh

flint folio
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the paragraphs will flow

atomic topaz
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Oh

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i kniw what you mean

flint folio
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idk its not the best wording but dont focus on that bit

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the pace required to get the joke out outweighs my ability to choose the right word

atomic topaz
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20 minutes to write my crazy essay about sonic rush

flint folio
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20 minutes for a thesis on the OST, gameplay, the sequel, and the need for rush 3 and then a little bit about colours ds not rush 3

atomic topaz
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5 page essay on whether or not Colors DS should be considered as rush 3

flint folio
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i hope for a page on "3rd rush game not rush 3" explanation

atomic topaz
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because its derivative of a wii game

atomic topaz
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rush adventure was pretty different from the original with the weird padding stuff it introduced, maybe a 3rd rush style game could go further

glass spade
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havent even played for like a week cos i got my parents took my xbox away LOL

atomic topaz
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Sonic Adventure 2 is pretty unique with all the rap stuff in its ost

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Sonic R- while short, i love for its techno pop jams

glass spade
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yeah knuckles raps went way too hard

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like nas vibes

atomic topaz
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Kinda!

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i kinda get what you mean

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If I were to compare it to 90s rap, it definitely draws from East Coast more

glass spade
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he had a ny state of mind type flow on one of them iirc

flint folio
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Snubbed for GOTY nomination for soundtrack😤

atomic topaz
flint folio
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Yes

atomic topaz
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Damn

flint folio
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GOTY noms are Stray, GOW:Cumrag, Xeno 3, Plague Tale, Elden Ring

atomic topaz
flint folio
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Ye

atomic topaz
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Cyberpunk Edgerunners was a close second for me tho, that show look fuckin sick

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i need to watch it

flint folio
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Fella nearly voted for a show he hasn’t even seen

atomic topaz
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everyone said it was excellent

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i wouldve given it my vote for aesthetics alone

flint folio
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I understand that, but it’s still funny

atomic topaz
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if i had played it, you'd probably have heard me mention it by now

flint folio
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Sonic Frontiers is my GOTY but other solid titles were Pokémon Legends Arceus, and maybe splatoon 3

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What else came out this year

glass spade
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they only count votes if you voted for everything

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so i voted for shit that i felt looked nice

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if i didnt play the other shits

flint folio
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Neat

glass spade
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80 on metacritic

flint folio
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50 on Xbox series consoles joe

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I maxed out my speed stat😎

glass spade
flint folio
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Pfft, Xbox players

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With their 60fps sonic unleashed

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Oh

atomic topaz
flint folio
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How dare the 3ds have handheld versions of games

atomic topaz
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i am awkeard yes

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i was poking fun at how it doesnt have a fully original sonic title

flint folio
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Only really by technicality, generations had a few different things and levels, boom only doesn’t count because it’s a TV show, and lost world had its own quips too

glass spade
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peak

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tbh i dont think the one S runs at 60

flint folio
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I do have 60fps unleashed, just on act 3 of windmill isle on ps3, and the series X downstairs

glass spade
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its only the current gens

flint folio
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The one X isn’t even 60 mate

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I’m pretty sure the one x still has frame drops

atomic topaz
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im planning to possibly buy either Lost World 3DS or Sonic Boom fire and Ice when i get paid on friday

flint folio
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Series X is constant 60

atomic topaz
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on ebay

flint folio
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Oh boy, lost world 3ds or fire and ice

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yaaaaaay

glass spade
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wouldnt know tbh my eyes dont notice

atomic topaz
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ok joe

glass spade
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im p sure lost world 3ds is just a low res wii u ver with blue ball game

atomic topaz
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No

flint folio
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You should be noticing 30 vs 60 if you see them quite frequently, doesn’t help if you physically can’t run the game at 60

glass spade
glass spade
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yeah ik but from what ive seen its similar

atomic topaz
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so it apparently has some pretty big differences

glass spade
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i dont notice shit tbh

atomic topaz
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lol

flint folio
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I am max level in everything in frontiers, not finished with the story yet lol

glass spade
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are u just exploring and shit?

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and like taking everything in

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instead of trying to beat the story

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if so i might do that tbh

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that sounds really broad

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what i mean is

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ur just tryna take ur time?

flint folio
# glass spade are u just exploring and shit?

I am collecting every memory token before proceeding, it has taken me 40 hours or so to get here, and it makes the game feel more substantial and actually makes use of the platforms that spawn, otherwise you don’t appreciate them enough

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The paths are fun and collecting every token means you use them all, plus they’re not hard to get, so it doesn’t feel as tedious

flint folio
next tartan
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It is pretty good news

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Frontiers was great but is still (noticeably) buggy and more manpower could fix that

flint folio
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It also just lacked time for a little extra touches outside of bugs

next tartan
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As a finished product it's very enjoyable but I wouldn't be telling the truth if I didn't say that I got frustrated by it sometimes to the point I had to put my controller down and go to bed

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Which they're aiming to fix by polishing up the game anywaysn

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What island are you on now?

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Also fwiw, you can just change the rings to speed and vice versa for this trophy, ezpz

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Shit I might platinum the game myself idk

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Maybe over Christmas break

flint folio
flint folio
next tartan
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Ok

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So you know to go into hard mode to get the true ending right

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The 50 phantom rushes trophy is a bitch I haven't got it either

flint folio
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Saw online, just fight an early level tower

flint folio
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Can’t really tell the difference

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I can with speed, but difficulty not really

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Too good 😎

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I’ll get the 50 rushes trophy and the platinum will be like a day away tops

atomic topaz
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SONIC RUSH 50 coming in 2567

next tartan
next tartan
grizzled stone
atomic topaz
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that can play games

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just plug it into your head!

grizzled stone
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hopefully it's not the sex one from edgerunners

glass spade
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fuck yeah

flint folio
next tartan
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Would this be like, a chance to see blaze again

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I'd like if it was

next tartan
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@flint folio have you read egg memo #11

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Confirmed a suspicion for me

flint folio
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I got all the egg memos fuckin ages ago

next tartan
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These seeds are killing me i thought it was one seed for one level of defense

next tartan
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Well I haven't touched the game I didn't think I'd play it again

glass spade
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prime giving me major sonic X and SatAM vibes

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like the sonic X part comes from them being transported to a different world and SatAM from the eggman taking over the whole world thing

grizzled stone
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the robot stuff too

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quite interesting

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Voice cast sounds pretty sweet too, though I wonder why it's not the usual lot

glass spade
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oh cos its in animated canada

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and laws there state u can only hire people who live in canada

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for like entertainment shit

grizzled stone
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Oh interesting

flint folio
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@next tartan great tip for the combo trophy, cross slash and sonic boom spring enemies in Ares Island, combos do 0 damage and get you phantom rushes easy

next tartan
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Oh ok thank you

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Do I need to actually hit the spring guys

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Or just projectile spam

flint folio
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Nah sonic booms count for phantom rush

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I just did it very quickly, turns out I only needed about 10 more

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Quick video for it

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You don’t need to use phantom rush, just obtain it

next tartan
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Oh you can just keep doing it huh

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That's rly helpful ty

flint folio
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Ye

flint folio
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Platinum’d frontiers

atomic topaz
flint folio
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Well, the last trophy was to beat the final boss

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50 hours

atomic topaz
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Nice

flint folio
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The end of the game was both very epic briefly and also quite sudden, also a tad shoe-horning,
my story opinions are positive

atomic topaz
flint folio
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No

atomic topaz
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oh

next tartan
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imo the story fell apart during ||island 4||

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it was not as good after it

next tartan
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Remember this leak lmfao

flint folio
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For sonic though, it’s some of the best it’s been in a long time

next tartan
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I saw this twitter thread you might like hols on

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Can't find it but it was a rewrite of the ending which was way better than the real ending

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I found it @flint folio

flint folio
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That would make the ending enormous but it is pretty cool

glass spade
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they really shouldve kept his world for sonic themes after 06

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its the definitive theme imo

next tartan
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It took me 3 odd days to get past most of the game and a day for the ending. It's one island and two boss fights yknow??

flint folio
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Wtf the ending was shorter than 2/3rds of the game what

next tartan
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I expected a longer ending

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It felt abrupt

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I wasn't expecting the last island to be like 6 hours of gameplay. It took me two days to finish knuckles island

glass spade
grizzled stone
atomic topaz
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where's sonic 06

flint folio
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In the real list

atomic topaz
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lmao

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classic joe

flint folio
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Chad

atomic topaz
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epic sonic 06 chad

flint folio
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Losing credibility one opinion at a time

atomic topaz
flint folio
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Sonic sonic on the sega sonic is my favourite sonic game

glass spade
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sonic 06 is amazing

flint folio
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And you’re telling me this

glass spade
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no im saying it louder for the people at the back

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🗣️

flint folio
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I am insulted for being the least cultured for agreeing with you

glass spade
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a compliment

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let me rephrase that

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there :)

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does that make sense now?

flint folio
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Forget it
Lmao

atomic topaz
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lol

glass spade
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i promise it wasnt an insult, leave it at that mane 😭

atomic topaz
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Sonic boom rise of lyric is amazing bro

glass spade
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i beg ur pardon

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sonic boom rise of lyric has nothing going for it

atomic topaz
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take a joke quo
lmao3d

glass spade
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the only thing it has going for it is that its not forces

flint folio
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Forces is much better than rise of lyric

next tartan
next tartan
glass spade
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playable?

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as a player

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what am i controlling

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nothing

flint folio
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Speedrunning sonic levels is fun

young dagger
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not done with frontiers yet but damn im actually having fun with a sonic game again? crazy

atomic topaz
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One of my only complaints with frontiers so far is that I don't like how weighty the homing attacks feel, especially in cyberspace levels

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its weird

young dagger
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it is weird not being able to be quick with them on enemies but be able to on balloons n stuff

atomic topaz
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they were so fast and fluid in Generations

young dagger
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tbf this one is way more combat focused but i do kind of wish that was another thing you could change in the settings along with the speed options

atomic topaz
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yeah same

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in cyberspace the heaviness of the homing attacks kinda stops the flow of what are otherwise really fast and adrenaline fueled levels

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One of the things I've noticed that frontiers absolutely nails in particular is rail-grinding

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i LOVE it
it feels so fuckin good
all the time

next tartan
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What I dislike is that it's impractical to use homing attacks in cyberspace cos they take so long to do

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It's easier to like, do it once, boost, then you get further faster than if you homing attacked every enemy or balloon that the game wants you to

grizzled stone
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Trying to play P-06 with a keyboard because it doesn't like my controller

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It's actually making me wanna buy 06 on PS3

atomic topaz
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for that game

grizzled stone
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Not sure

atomic topaz
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i have 360 version

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it was fairly janky from what i played

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i couldnt get past the first level with the weird Tails controls

grizzled stone
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should I buy the two Sonic Adventure games? £3 together

atomic topaz
grizzled stone
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PC, Steam

atomic topaz
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oh yeah

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Yes you should

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iirc SADX is more janky than the original

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i really like what ive played of adventure 2 tho

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Knuckles levels can be a tad tedious

grizzled stone
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I've heard there are some mods to help out SADX but I'll probably give it a shot on its own first

atomic topaz
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yeah

grizzled stone
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Though, looks like the lowest price for them was 89p each, so like £1.80 for both

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maybe i should wait for a future sale (probably the winter), but IDK if they'll be for sale for sure

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Or for sale for a better or even the same price

next tartan
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It is still a very fun port

atomic topaz
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xbox 360 store still has the original dreamcast version of Sonic adventure
i considered getting it at some point

glass spade
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play sa1 with better sadx

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great way to play it but if u want to back up the save it fucks it up so theres that

grizzled stone
glass spade
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wooo

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join the gang

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lemme see wheni got them

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cos i was young asf

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good day

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was hyped asf that day

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i think these two were my first proper sonic games

glass spade
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3 QUID?

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bargain tbh

grizzled stone
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£3.23 to be precise

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No Battle DLC tho

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but I'm lonely so

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I think I might have owned SADX physically once

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Or I might have just seen it in a shop

glass spade
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yeah in hindsight battle was a waste

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cos ive never played it with anyone

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lol

grizzled stone
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haha

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ah well, better safe than sorry

glass spade
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yeah

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i think i was 9 when i got the both

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my first proper sonic game

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before i just played sonic dash

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and watched cobonermani456 play sonic games and shit

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idk if anyone knows/remembers him

grizzled stone
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I 'member

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I think the first sonic game I played was Heroes on PS2

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Or that Ultimate Flash Sonic

glass spade
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YEAH

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I PLAYED THAT TOO

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but like thats not official so i didnt include that

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i played tf out that game

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also that one sonic game

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with the story

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chaos sonic or wtv

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and sonic final fantasy was good

grizzled stone
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Oh yeah!

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I love that X5 used Melissa, the first opening to Fullmetal Alchemist

next tartan
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100% on every island except the last one

atomic topaz
grizzled stone
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Honestly I struggle with any version of Heroes

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The aesthetic is brilliant (minus the shiny character models), but the control is just AWFUL

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Also it seems to be kinda buggy regardless of platform

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IIRC the PS2 one is probably the worst for performance but I haven't been back to it in a bit

next tartan
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Damnit I thought there was a trophy for fishing completion for big and I missed the chance to photograph when I got the platinum

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Oh well

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I still don't feel a sense of completion with the game. Odd

grizzled stone
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Took me a lot of game overs, a lot of E ranks, and over half an hour on Meteor Herd alone, but I've finished the Hero story of Adventure 2

glass spade
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how many times did u do final rush

flint folio
grizzled stone
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so much falling off XD

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Gotta say tho, SA2 seems to have one of the most consistent light speed dashes I've used so far, tied with the PS2/Wii version of Unleashed

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That and the homing attack is pretty spot on

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That and the control means I can play the game rather than shuffle along scared of it like Heroes

glass spade
glass spade
flint folio
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Please do

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Just make more of that, and build on it

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Hire more people, all that bollocks

grizzled stone
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and give them good conditions and reasonable timeframes

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It'll be neat to see where the concept goes

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Also, I feel I've asked this before but: which version of It Doesn't Matter do y'all prefer?

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I'm more a fan of the Adventure 1 version myself

glass spade
#

we in the mf uh

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whats it called again

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open zone era or wtv

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one of u man can probs come up with a better name

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this year defo been the best sonic year of my time being a sonic fan

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esp with prime coming out im so hyped

grizzled stone
#

Trying to get A rank on City Escape in Adventure 2 and whoa

atomic topaz
#

austin made a whole video about unleashed

atomic topaz
grizzled stone
#

It's got that Sonic fun of repeatedly playing the same level and trying to hit all the points and strategies I've formulated so far

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Speedrunning in microcosm

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Kinda what I like about Tony Hawk too

atomic topaz
#

so true

next tartan
#

I find this so hard

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I feel proud when I do it eventually but I don't find it fun to do it usually

grizzled stone
#

I mean, it's the fun I find in a sonic game, I imagine others find different things fun

grizzled stone
#

Less than 1000 points away from an A rank on City Escape hahaha

grizzled stone
#

WOO first A-rank!

glass spade
#

Wauren

atomic topaz
#

lowest quality lets play lol

flint folio
flint folio
atomic topaz
#

he's another games youtuber i watch occasionally

flint folio
#

I figured that but you said his name as if I’d know of them

atomic topaz
#

i did yeah

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i took a gamble

flint folio
#

So I thought there was something missing but yeah - did he like it?

atomic topaz
#

i think he kinda likes the wii version better

flint folio
#

Shame

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All that version did was make things more linear and made the werehog levels 3 levels long instead of 1 long one

atomic topaz
#

it did put things into perspective tho

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the werehog levels being longer on average than every daytime stage is a realization that crushed my soul

flint folio
#

Well did you really need reminding that hyper fast sonic levels aren’t as long as slow paced beat em up levels

atomic topaz
#

no

flint folio
#

I think it’s a tad over dramatic to expect boost levels to be 15 minutes long, I mean 5 minutes for jungle joyride is pretty insane

atomic topaz
#

thats fair

flint folio
#

To make boost levels much longer would be pretty insane work and really actually ruin how they work, for high pace memory or reaction based speedrun levels frankly much longer would be mentally quite painful to learn

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Plus all the Wii version does is make the werehog levels shorter but make plenty more of them

atomic topaz
#

i'll just say it
and its a pretty cold take i know
but i really dont love the werehog levels

flint folio
#

I think it’s the best gimmick sonic really ever had

atomic topaz
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What about sonic with a sword though

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thats my sonic gimmick of choice

flint folio
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Classic sonic wasn’t fun, even compared to the genesis sonic,

Wisps was so painful at times and half of them stop you in your tracks,

A sword is a cool gimmick but it’s legitimately faster to ignore enemies than it is to fight them and that’s very sad

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Sure werehog levels were slow and sometimes quite annoying but the combat is at least engaging and the music was good, the levels are pretty decent

atomic topaz
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Don't those levels repeat the exact same song though

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The one I'm on I have gotten really sick of the music because it just keeps repeating itself

flint folio
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Just be faster 😎

atomic topaz
#

cries

flint folio
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Idk, I just think it might not be as good but I couldn’t name a sonic gimmick that was any better than the werehog

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Plus Unleashed needs time to understand to properly enjoy, which isn’t really ideal for a sonic game but once I understood a few moves and the levels I had a lot of fun

atomic topaz
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Like the only great one for me was the jet ski

flint folio
#

I didn’t enjoy much at all from the adventure games that weren’t sonic or shadow levels

atomic topaz
#

RUSH adventure

flint folio
#

I am not talking about that one

atomic topaz
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i was lol

flint folio
#

Believe it or not I’ve not played it so have nothing to add

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I’m furthering the conversation elsewhere

atomic topaz
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Is shadow in adventure 2 considered a gimmick

flint folio
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No, but neither is tails or knuckles

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Just saying usually if it’s not the sonic stuff I’ve never actually had that much fun

atomic topaz
#

Could the big fishing minigames be considered a gimmick

flint folio
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Gimmicks are things included to make the game stand out, kinda?.. so I suppose you could argue

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But either way each sonic games “gimmick” is what makes it stand out, the adventure games have their other characters, unleashed has the werehog and heroes has the team dynamic etc.

atomic topaz
#

I suppose you could consider the team aspect of Heroes a gimmick right?

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oh ya beat me to it

flint folio
#

Lol

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Yes

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That gimmick was ok but again, not go fast person, less fun

atomic topaz
#

It's not as fast as the adventure games?

flint folio
#

I mean probably not

atomic topaz
#

I mean you got tails having to carry knuckles and sonics fat asses around everywhere

flint folio
#

Just stopping to fly as tails wasn’t too fun and knuckles punching was cool but still not as enjoyable

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Maybe I’m just dull but I’m not fussed as playing as many other sonic characters

atomic topaz
#

If I get back into sonic adventure 2 then the shadow levels are something to look forward to right

flint folio
#

I mean, you put sonic in those levels and they work the same

atomic topaz
#

thats good

flint folio
#

The difference is shadow is very cool so I like him a lot

atomic topaz
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also not having to use a gun is nice

flint folio
#

I didn’t vibe much with the adventure games I had real 🤓 moments with it

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I liked a lot of things but playing it wasn’t actually that high on the list

atomic topaz
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That jungle level where he meets shadow was really fun

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Good sense of speed

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I feel like one of the main reasons frontiers is hitting so well as that it's actually focusing on the speed mostly

#

So many previous sonic games just had slower things that kind of kill my vibe

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like UGHHH the knuckles emerald levels

flint folio
#

The weird thing is frontiers’ boost levels are the slowest sonic has felt in that place since like maybe colours

atomic topaz
#

Colors just has really awkward jumping in 2d

flint folio
#

It’s more a fresh start and also dipping into an obvious genre

#

Colours was alright, but it’s rated a bit too high these days, it was a big point where sonic games ceased their ambition a little

atomic topaz
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Yeah I can kinda see that

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Lost World 3DS is the last 3-D sonic game that I still want to try and dont own yet

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Dimps my beloved

flint folio
#

Sure

atomic topaz
#

I'm sorry I keep mentioning sonic games you haven't played

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lol

flint folio
#

Well i mean dimps sonic track record is only good early on, I can’t say I cared for sonic 4, lost world 3ds or generations 3ds

atomic topaz
#

I thought Gens 3DS had a good reputation but then I heard people talk about it and I guess I was wrong

#

It's so funny to me that they included Radical Highway and it was bad

#

Like it's a shadow level what did you think was going to happen

atomic topaz
#

Gonna see if I can get past that knuckles level that annoyed me before

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@flint folio Hey do you recall there being really annoying water sound effects in aquatic mine or is that just my pc being weird

flint folio
#

Yeah I think so

atomic topaz
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God this is unbearable lol

#

guess i gotta crank the sound down

atomic topaz
#

@flint folio

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Weird thing I found at this weird sale thing the other day

flint folio
#

Snoc

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I don’t know anything about it

atomic topaz
#

i figured

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but it was sonic related

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so yeah

grizzled stone
#

Probably a bootleg, pretty neat tho

#

also oh jeez that hidden chao in city escape is more hidden than I can manage haha

atomic topaz
grizzled stone
#

Probably? I didn't try

#

I went through the entire hero story before even touching the dark story

atomic topaz
#

I want to start the dark story because this knuckle's level is killing me

grizzled stone
#

think I'm only on Radical Highway on the dark story

atomic topaz
#

And I don't want to not be able to play this game because of it

grizzled stone
#

Probably possible

atomic topaz
grizzled stone
#

sweet!

atomic topaz
#

I just played radical highway for the 1st time

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I love it

next tartan
#

but i didnt think classic sonic was not fun

#

i'd honestly say the worst gimmick is uh. probably the wisps? cool concept, bad execution

glass spade
#

as someone who just finished colours for the first time i disagree

#

wisps were fun asf to fuck around with

flint folio
#

Yeah the wisps were pretty lame

#

It felt so slow to use and I cannot see any room for fucking around with a good chunk of them

next tartan
#

well i got colours remastered a few days ago

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maybe ill beat it

#

just based on childhood memories of the ds colours, it was very clunky and some of them glitched constantly

next tartan
grizzled stone
#

I think my favourite sonic gimmick so far is the team switching in Heroes

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If only the control was any good XD

next tartan
#

On pc version it's not too bad

grizzled stone
#

Eh, I hate it regardless of platform

#

PC, PS2, Gamecube

glass spade
#

cos i got it on dolphin

#

and u can upscale on that

next tartan
#

It won't be if you can upscale it

glass spade
#

fair enough

flint folio
#

I actually played colours on dolphin upscaled before hand too actually

glass spade
#

apparently it was broken asf lol

flint folio
#

I only ran into 2 bugs that really harmed my gameplay on PC

glass spade
#

what’s the better experience

flint folio
#

Switch was a mess though

glass spade
#

how is a wii game on switch a mess who potter that game

flint folio
#

The big difference on Colours Ultimate is it played at 144fps, and the perfect homing attack gave you way more boost

flint folio
#

It was a mess due to bugs not running that poorly, mind you the OG colours looks better a good 60-70% of the time

#

Colours ultimate is a good time now though, I love the perfect homing attack and the customisation, but it’s not 100% an upgrade, which is annoying to say

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But it’s a valid way to play now

glass spade
#

fair

#

i’ll probs get it when i a get current gen console i doubt it’s gonna run as good as dolphin than on my xbox one

flint folio
#

It runs fine everywhere I think, but idk

#

It’s a fair and good way to play now but only reason I prefer it over the OG is the perfect homing attack giving you way more boost

glass spade
#

i’ll peep it next time it’s on sale

flint folio
#

YES

flint folio
#

Y E S

#

ERECT

atomic topaz
#

yooo thats cool!!

atomic topaz
#

hype

flint folio
#

Watch? Looks like playable knuckles is possible lol

atomic topaz
#

More like confirmed lol

atomic topaz
flint folio
#

Well it’s not confirmed who we play as, but it’s likely they’re all involved in the story

atomic topaz
#

i like seeing other sonic characters that arent sonic do the zoom zoom

flint folio
#

I’m really excited for photo mode lol

atomic topaz
#

i want more cyberspace level areas

flint folio
#

Challenge mode is gonna be boss rush for sure

atomic topaz
#

but i understand if they cant do it

flint folio
#

Idk, maybe

#

I doubt that though but I’d pay for extra islands and cyberspace

atomic topaz
#

me too

#

i really love the classic level -based structure of sonic games

flint folio
#

Gimme more open world sonic plis

atomic topaz
#

i like that too

flint folio
#

We’ve had 30 years of level based sonic games I want to spend 300 hours going fast

atomic topaz
#

im like a second away from going on another "i love 2d sonic" rant

#

i'll spare you this time

flint folio
#

Well I did everything there is to do in frontiers start to finish and I don’t even know if you finished the game

atomic topaz
#

i havent

#

i plan to

flint folio
#

I’m not sure if that speaks volumes or not

atomic topaz
#

umm

#

i am pretty busy with school rn

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in the past like week the only game i figured i had time for was fortnite

flint folio
#

I think you may figure that quite often

#

I just wanted to be excited for the frontiers dlc
Hoping for new cyberspace areas may be quite unrealistic

atomic topaz
flint folio
#

I don’t need a reason from you, it’s just that’s your choice on what to play instead

#

You have time for any game outside of something enormous, it’s just your personal choice

atomic topaz
#

i try

flint folio
#

Anyway I’m not entirely sure how it’s relevant

atomic topaz
#

i dont do a great job tho

#

yeah you right

flint folio
#

Well you typically stick with stuff for a couple hours and shelve them unless it’s fortnite

atomic topaz
#

not all the time but yes its a bad habit

#

or its just how my brain operates

#

either way i hate that im like this

flint folio
#

Give me all your games except frontiers

#

That’ll fix it

atomic topaz
#

lmao

atomic topaz
#

100% that bitch

flint folio
#

I’ll cut up the disc and see if it fits in my gamecube

atomic topaz
#

Rip

#

it only came out on ps2/xbox

glass spade
#

my best bet would be a playable knuckles prologue

#

hopefully we get new levels

flint folio
#

Photomode 😤😤😤

glass spade
#

i’m happy with that tbh

atomic topaz
glass spade
#

it could be worse

#

atleast the game isn’t set in outer space

#

so no chance of space knuckles

atomic topaz
#

jason voorhees IN SPACE

glass spade
#

ngl

#

i forogot sonics voice actor who is he

#

robert

#

roger craig

#

yeah he’s gonna be my favourite voice if he keeps up deep sonic

atomic topaz
glass spade
#

yeah

#

that

#

my favourite sonic va is jason grithith

flint folio
#

Crimbo fastboi

glass spade
#

bro we are eating good as sonic fans in 2022

#

great movie

#

great game

#

great show?!?!!?

#

looks like it so far

#

i assume they’re gonna release it all in one go so i’m hyped for that

#

binge watch it

#

how long are the episodes

flint folio
glass spade
#

20 mins?

#

that’s longer than i expected ngl

#

i thought 10-11

flint folio
#

The opening show is longer but others will be that

glass spade
#

it is a kids show after all

flint folio
#

What tv show is 10 minutes

glass spade
#

it’s a kids show on netflix

#

it’s not far from possibility

flint folio
#

Sonic X was 20 minutes even

glass spade
#

iirc spongebob and fairly odd parents were

atomic topaz
#

Star Wars Tales of the Jedi had 6 episodes and all of them were 10-15 minutes

glass spade
#

maybe gumball

#

also sonic boom was 11 mins

flint folio
#

20 was for sonic x, so was underground actually

glass spade
#

i remember at after school club in primary

atomic topaz
#

Sonic boom is probably the best sonic show so far

flint folio
#

Sonic prime seems more like sonic x than boom in terms of direction

glass spade
#

the lady who worked there was giving away the cds and shit cos they were getting rid of the tb and she gave me the sonic underground box set cos she knew i loved sonic

#

core memory

glass spade
#

it reminds me of sonic x

#

the trailers

#

the way sonic gets teleported somewhere else due to the master emerald

#

the beginning that is

flint folio
#

Though sonic X was pretty shit when it was filler

glass spade
#

the dystopia reminds me of SatAM

atomic topaz
glass spade
#

they gotta have a sonic sez for the memes

#

wonder what they’re gonna do to donut lord in sonic 3

atomic topaz
#

it had some really good action episodes tho, iirc

glass spade
#

i watched it recently

#

like a couple months back

#

it does

atomic topaz
#

theres the episode with the sonic vs knucles fight

#

that one was good

glass spade
#

they really loved making knucks seem an idiot in the 00s

#

“fuck u sonic give me those emeralds”

#

“why”

#

“eggman lol”

atomic topaz
#

Not just the 00s

#

Sonic Boom doubled down on that too

#

but in a much more satirical way

glass spade
#

oh fr?

#

yeah sonic boom was satirical asf

atomic topaz
#

yeah he says alot of obviously dumb things lol

glass spade
#

finally got my xbox back

#

restarted my game cos i haven’t played since like launch week

#

beat the final boss again

#

did way more roaming and redoing cyberspace levels

#

just started ares

glass spade
#

why does sonic look at knuckles so….

#

lovingly?

next tartan
#

In what game

glass spade
#

frontiers

next tartan
#

Hm

#

I didn't pick it up as anything other than bros being bros

glass spade
#

true

#

i be looking at my homie googly eyed

#

giving him the fuck me eyes and all

atomic topaz
#

i hope to get back into Frontiers when finals are over

#

things are kinda hectic rn

#

but theres so much to enjoy about frontiers, i wanna give it the time it deserves

glass spade
#

same

#

todays the last day imma play cos my tests and shi

glass spade
#

lads we cant let genmid win

flint folio
#

Genshit midpact 😤

#

I did my bit

flint folio
flint folio
#

Oh yes

next tartan
#

Genshin isn't a 2020 game, it is a live service game and if you compared it at version 1.1 to the version you have now you'd see how much the game has changed. However, it has already won game of the year and shouldn't be included purely because it has already won

#

Sonic frontiers was one of the best games I've played, uh ... ever

#

It's not without glitches and bugs and a story that dropped off in the middle but it was extremely fun traversal, the story was good for a long time, enjoyable open world setting, it genuinely felt like you were getting stronger the more you played

#

And the game awards are dumb and the site isn't working

flint folio
#

I always felt like live service games should have its own category rather than piling it with fuckin Elden ring lol it’s so bizarre to me

#

I know it’s players choice, but have two then because I doubt people’s GOTY is their daily grindfest game they’ve played for ages

#

Plus, I didn’t see, how many other of the live service games were in there? I know updates happen and change these things enormously but they’re so out of place here

#

Oh it’s also not been fun that sonic has been bugged on a lot of platforms, there’s like a coding error in there and idk what’s happening with genshin and bots but I didn’t read into it much

It’s a really odd debate it’s just shouting for the sake of it

next tartan
#

You don't see the directors cut of an Oscar winning film being nominated for another Oscar do you

#

There are no genshin vote bots, there is just an ungodly amount of Asian genshin players that all voted in the same day which led to botting claims cos genshin went from losing to having 50% of the votes. It's just cos most of those voters were asleep when the vote started and when they all woke up they mostly voted genshin

#

Plus all the genshin players are frothing at the mouth to make genshin win so they get free primogems cos hoyoverse give out free primos when they win anything

flint folio
#

I get that it just makes sense in my head to separate live service from other games and then it makes sense to let it win twice

#

Idk

next tartan
#

The issue with that is the lack of live service games that are popular and don't suck ass

#

Overwatch 2 and genshin are the only modern (as in, made this decade) popular live service games. Unless you nominate RuneScape and stuff like WoW or LoL

glass spade
flint folio
#

Idk, just I know it’s not necessarily “of the year” category for players choice but I mean, maybe it should be - live service is hard to categorise though I suppose

next tartan
#

Oh yes fortnite

#

I guess dbd, apex, Valhalla, multiversus

#

That type of stuff

flint folio
#

The keyboard breakers

next tartan
#

Yea

flint folio
#

Hey guys my Spotify wrapped 2023 leaked

next tartan
#

Lmfao

glass spade
#

ig we gonna find out tmrw

glass spade
#

we lost

#

oh wel

flint folio
#

Took a fat L

glass spade
#

geoff called us bots :(

glass spade
#

bro im dogshit at this game

#

||how did i spent and hour on the end space invaders bit and still not beat it yet||

flint folio
#

That is genuinely quite hard

#

It took me 3-4 attempts I think

glass spade
#

bro i lied lol

#

it actually took me 3 hours??

#

that’s gotta be glitched

#

i still haven’t beaten it

#

why can i not beat it

#

i dont believe it was 3 maybe an hour and half pushing it

#

weird, ||didn’t expect a sonic final boss level to be so challenging||

visual galleon
#

I got my gf’s brother a copy of Sonic Frontiers

#

He gives the game a 6/10

#

Still haven’t played it myself

#

Not expecting much tbh, any tips / tricks I should know to beat the game completely? Any side quests I should do?

glass spade
#

i’d say it’s the most fun i’ve had with a sonic game since i was 8

next tartan
#

Do not go koco hunting just go fishing for koco

glass spade
#

yeah find a fishing portal

#

probs the easiest way to get shit

#

i kinda want the next sonic game to like go for the 12 PEGI rating like botw did

#

its not like parents give a shit abt age ratings

flint folio
#

Fishing gets you upgrades very quickly, and don’t level up ring count until the end

#

Cyloop an infinite symbol for infinite boost

glass spade
#

it was my RB that was fucking@me up

#

i’d have to press very hard

#

anyways it’s done now

#

great game

#

||tf sticks doing in the cannon timeline||

flint folio
#

Loool

atomic topaz
#

@flint folio wait WHAT

flint folio
#

Hi

atomic topaz
#

just real quick
||Sticks is in frontiers?||

flint folio
#

She is mentioned right at the end

#

Nothing more than a line

atomic topaz
#

Oh shiiiiiiit

#

well thats still surprising

flint folio
#

Yeah

atomic topaz
#

maybe she'll be in sonic prime

flint folio
#

Idk we’ll see soon enough I suppose

atomic topaz
#

is boom even spose to be canon

flint folio
#

Prime isn’t canon either I don’t think

atomic topaz
#

pretty sure the whole sonic canon is just a confusing mess anyways

#

Oh

glass spade
#

prime is its own thing i believe

atomic topaz
#

oh

next tartan
next tartan
next tartan
#

Or maybe a different dimension, like blaze

#

Is blaze really from a different dimension or is that just a bad translation? Either way boom is a separate world from normal sonic world but the characters from boom are in the normal world cos that's logical

#

We just haven't met any yet

#

Maybe sticks will be dlc

flint folio
#

Woo

#

Good sales

glass spade
#

does this mean sega may drop a big budget?

glass spade
#

got an evening to waste, might just play the whole of forces

#

or not i need to download it

#

nah my wifis pretty fast

#

we good

#

haven’t played since 2017 so let’s see how it goes

atomic topaz
#

lol

atomic topaz
#

jk

glass spade
#

no you have a point

#

but it’s just one of those evenings innit

glass spade
#

god this game is so ass

#

i love infinite tho

flint folio
#

A few of the sonic levels are good

#

That’s why I played mostly

glass spade
#

sunset heights is great

#

i’m 15/30 stages

#

cba now i’ll finish tmrw

#

god this game is so ass

#

the only part where i act felt something is when they played all hail shadow for like 10 seconds

flint folio
#

Sunset heights is good, lost valley is decent, eggman fortress level 26 is my favourite

glass spade
#

god shadows VA is so ass

glass spade
#

what time does prime premiere

next tartan
#

The sonic VA in prime is annoying rn

#

Maybe he gets better!

glass spade
#

finished forces

#

so ass

#

like tf

#

lmfao

#

friendship my ass

atomic topaz
#

@flint folio yo wtf i didnt realize sonic prime was out

flint folio
#

i knew i just havent seen it

atomic topaz
#

me neither

#

I'll definitely watch it soon and we can just chat about it

#

I like that it appears to be about the entire sonic cast

next tartan
#

i hate how sonic prime is just making it seem like sonic doesnt like knuckles

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3 episodes in and hes said "id even take knuckles at this point" twice now. like BRUH

glass spade
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knuckles slander is crazy

next tartan
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it pisses me off

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we just got frontiers, a game which had in my opinion a perfect representation of knuckles and sonic's relationship, and sonic movie 2 which had the best non-game knuckles ive ever seen

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and now we have "ooga booga knuckles dumb caveman and sonic hates him" all over again

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knuckles isnt dumb hes just really trusting, cos he has literally had minimal interaction with other life forms since he was young

glass spade
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poor translation honestly

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canadians..

flint folio
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Bro

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What a revelation

glass spade
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IGN based

next tartan
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The ending to prime rly just teased a crazy S2

atomic topaz
next tartan
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I did like it

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It's not as good as I'd hoped but I liked it

atomic topaz
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the character designs all look sick

next tartan
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They do

atomic topaz
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the visual presentation definitely looks like a standout positive element of the show

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does it have alot of action?

glass spade
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how are big and blaze the same race

atomic topaz
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wtf

glass spade
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both are cats

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daaamn i really like never deeped that

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finished prime

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||how tf they gonna end on a cliffhanger like that tho damn||

next tartan
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There might not even be a season 2

atomic topaz
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why not

next tartan
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Netflix might cancel it

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They cancel most stuff

atomic topaz
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Why would they greenlight it in the first place then

flint folio
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Since they don’t know how well it’ll do

next tartan
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Netflix greenlight and cancel stuff all the time

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They think it might do well, they'll greenlight it, it doesn't get lots of viewers in the first week and they give up on it

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I am not okay with this is a prime example

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Show is insanely popular but it didn't get attention for the first couple of weeks and it got cancelled

atomic topaz
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@flint folio have you watched prime yet? im 3 episodes in and personally i think its pretty good

flint folio
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i haven't, im awful at watching shows

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i dont even have netflix so id have to go find it

atomic topaz
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Fair
its only 8 episodes tho

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Oh

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also fair lol

flint folio
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lol

atomic topaz
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I just think they really nailed it visually

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Everything pops