#General Discussion - Entertainment
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dammm I was literally quoting the truth thooooo
Wow this sounds like an awful conversation to have
I don’t care Nintendo as a corpo entity piss me off.. they’re beyond saving
Ultimately do they make fun games sure
are they completely fucked: yea
i agree on that but they have been doing fresh things with their IPs recently
that cant be denied
then why make that argument
How the fuck are you talking about a company beating a dead horse when you “wouldn’t know” about their recent games
Because I see what games they release but I don’t buy them
me and joe 🤝 being on the same page
Ok? Doesn’t make them the same, plus, you “wouldn’t know”
cool
I don’t really understand this argument outside of you don’t like them
Which is fine
I am not arguing
An argument is more than shouting, it’s a viewpoint you’re presenting
ive played dread, botw, odyssey, they all exemplify that nintendo still has fresh ideas for their 30 year old franchises
you said this is flat out wrong which is inherently just not true when half their modern output relies on nostalgia and remakes
they’re always beating dead horses and relying on nostalgia
their newest originals are competent
dont put that on one company
What was the last game Nintendo remade, they did a few remasters
Some of their hardest releases have been quite a step up from previous entries
most people dont wanna buy older consoles (i do but im weird so yeah)
Re-releases can be very good if they enhance gameplay or tweak old game logic for the modern audience
rereleases are necessary is what im saying
I just have lost any and all respect post switch, few years into switch.. probably when online was released tbh I just completely felloff a cliff and have no admiration for anything they’re currently doing
it doesnt make a company "unoriginal"
I think as a company they operate shitty business models and are anti consumer
They’re not alone in this really
Plus if anything I’m pretty sure they’ve been worse lol
not denying that, but you're argument that nintendo sucks because they "only do rereleases" is flimsy at best
yea but I also don’t adhere to buying shitty games with shitty business models, like they hateee their fans and are protective of image and IP to a fault
it’s one of many factors
because it isnt really true
It’s wholly relying on nostalgia
to like Nintendo you have to shut a lot out, consume products and do everything on their terms
You’re just kinda saying things without really backing it up with much
they literally don’t like their own fans and they operate a shitty business model and their are many many examples of shitty behaviour
yup
These are strong claims, if you could actually discuss them I’m sure you’d have an argument here
im in work citations needed sure
when joking about Nintendo turns into my genuine feelings
Okay
i agree that nintendo have been sus lately
but they make ALOT of good new games that i would consider fresh
I don’t feel the need to defend a company or whatever I just want to like things
They’ve always been sus with a lot of tidbits that’s just how they’ve always been really
It depends on how you view things tbh wether the Nintendo output is good.. they usually take all the credit for outputs from smaller studios and scapegoat the blame on smaller studios when a game sucks or has faults
Well I’d say the system has some of my favourite releases in recent memory, and those other two points are just words that mean nothing to me without citation
They’re bad with online.. bad with community engagement or really anything relating to people who have a vested interest in their company
my main problem with nintendo right now is that i think they are anti-game preservation
Well they’re very slow with releasing it
And it’s only anti preservation since the switch, since the Wii U had enormous libraries
their choice to kill the 3ds and wii u eshops was enough to make me believe that, if im being completely honest
they fucked splat tourneys just hold off on support for games until proven to be successful, slow on supporting new IP, seemingly very disposable when it comes to having an endgoal or consistent platform..
I’ve said it before I just think they’re very slow with that sort of thing
they just giveth and taketh away so unfairly and without reason
well it makes them look stupid
Sure, but that’s my thought
Since they keep using different ways of playing games backwards compatibility is quite difficult
Not to mention how wacky they are with controllers and stuff
I find it difficult to figure out how to make all that widely available with actual decent control schemes
no one wants to spend 50 on a new n64 controller for a service that has like 11 games
That doesn’t really answer my question
I think people prefer gamepass or PSN way more than Nintendo online because it’s a heap of bs dependent on inconsistencies like wether they’ll even keep certain games like available, wether they’ll make online a paywall, wether a game will just randomly be a limited time purchase, what their future retro output will even be
The N64 output was announced ahead of time and I think all their games are still available, when stuff does exit gamepass doesn’t it?
good point there
stuff like 3ds isnt too hard to translate tho
Plus Xbox and Sony both have online behind a paywall for any game that isn’t free to play
It’s not reliable is my point.. like N64 costs heaps more and the emulation came out initially fucking terrible
It wasn’t ideal but It also didn’t really hurt my experience
they also had 2 separate M64 versions playable at a close enough proximity
while saying “this is limited time”
Plus if you set up a family plan I pay £15 a year for NSO expansion anyways
then suddenly M64 is now available
To be fair you can still get 3D all stars all over the place, weird that happened though
im always ao surprised how you're able to be ok with this stuff joe
its downright impressive
With what
nintendo fuckery
With what
absolute Nintendo fuckery
stuff that other players would rage at, like the n64 emulation
Because I’m not a speed runner and I couldn’t not tell there was input lag that serious lol
I have 3D all stars and showed you and aodhan the lag, I could barely pickup on it
Sure it was an issue and it should be sorted, and I think it was to a point, but every other tweet was the game is unplayable
i feel like you're only saying that because they havent made a game in 10 years
steam is good
Which is simply not the case, it was fine, just not perfect
dont be a whiner
My list for valve is longer than my arms
I’m gonna go play a game or something, have fun with that bloke skeet, wear a helmet
i have to go too
Oh lucky you
It’s more with the similar lack of care, platform inconsistency and just disrespectful for devs and fans
also i just think this discussion has run its course
I understand the criticism for these companies but it’s exhausting discussing it when I just wanna talk games
aut seems to have made up his mind about this, and none of our rational counterpoints are gonna change that
You can question nintendo and the like all day for their questionable practices and crunch in Japanese culture for game making, but frankly I am too tired to join in
yeah
I’m ok with people thinking these things and a good chunk of it has its place, but also I like playing Zelda when I poo and I just wanna enjoy that honestly
So frankly while I get these bad practices I also like to support good video games and enjoy them, so I do
Anyway, direct tomorrow, I’ll be watching
i'll be there with ya
Good stuff, it’s perfect because we’re both excited by wildly different shit
what tim was it again?
*time
lol, my own typo made me laugh
so im not editing it
6/9 depending what end you’re on
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rip
im out of class at 11
direct starts at the same time the class starts
i'll have to watch and discuss later

I loved sonic generations as a smaller child
Why not love it now
I still do
Good
@prisma briar i assume you're watching the direct, just lemme know whats announced
i'll be in class
monster hunter stuff, pac world remake, some mega man GBA game things, neir automata switch port, bomberman R 2
a text free game about 2 animals
battle network???
yes
oh thats pretty cool actually
those games have been stranded on gba for 20 years
return to monkey island, neat
i had star force 2 when i was a kid
its a spiritual successor to battle network
more monsta hunter seems cool
free updates until 2023, and a sunbreak demo
they are the despicable me minions of gaming
perfect for the switch
gotta say, mario and rabbids has a gorgeous title art
whoever did that design deserves a raise
i'd rather mario cross over with actual rayman
about wat
SWITCH GAMEPLAY?
bro
what is this music
its so good
CYBERSPACE
KJHASDBGFHASDKJGHBNSDKJG
Fuck me
hmm?
that was great
is it another bit of frontiers
solid minute or so of frontiers stuff, on the switch
and showed cyberspace linear levels
oh
epic
idk why that needs to be raised when i wanted to discuss new frontiers stuff
its in my DNA
i will be able to discuss that when i actually see it
just not rn
i know, but you can be excited for me
i am
plus, i was very impressed that switch gameplay was shown
dragon quest treasures looks graphically awful
blimey
oh the portal collection is out today?
might pick that up on sale sometime
portal runs great on my pc
not gonna get it for switch but im happy people who only have a switch can enjoy it
direct ends on persona
5 royal, 4 golden and 3 portable?
except i got impatient and bought persona 4 golden on vita
Persona 3 FES is the better version
unfortunate
portable removed a bunch of cutscenes and other stuff
basically trimmed it down so it could fit on the PSP
any ideas where this design is from
lol
why does it make me think of black knight
gonna spam sonic chat with stuff
thats what its there for
well not rlly (spam is bad) but you know what i mean
i literally opened it with "hi joe"
well lots of sonic stuff to dissect, nothing else really for me in the direct but there was some decent stuff
@quasi raptor Holy shit dude
yeah its cool
but whats funny is i got impatient and just bought 3 and 4 on other platforms
😭
also p3p is arguably the lesser version of that game
shouldve used FES
@swift zodiac like i said farther up in chat
but sonoc
Oh I see
Still though
Persona 3
yeah you're just missing out on some content by playing that version
its weird
persona4 is swag tho
been playing it on vita
ah yes
the playstation switch
ok ill have fun another day
fuck im sorry
tried to find that shitty emulator console in switch colours but couldnt
joke was there
just harder to get working on an actual tv lol
does the playstation TV count
i mean yeah
close enough
if anyone is fussed, Persona 5 Royal will have a physical release
the other 2 wont
but even then a good chunk of the vitas library doesnt work on the psTV because of touch screen gimmicks and other junk
ah yes, the wonky psswitch
rip
idk when we asked but thanks ig lol
Np
I'm not trying to be rude here but I don't really see the point in making a tier list if you haven't even played the adventure games
Man that list is poo
I dont have a dreamcast just lying around do i
I dont have a pc
Lol
Next games
Adventure 1 and 2 are on loads of things
yeah we want them on current platforms but they're on a fine amount of platforms otherwise
i mean i still have my 360 lol
cant say the same for everyone but someone owning a 360 in 2022 is probably a tad more common then someone owning a ps2 in 2022
or dreamcast
Skeet mate I’m not sure if you really wanna feel cool for owning old consoles but millions of folk have these things lying around, and the Xbox has the adventure games available on every Xbox after the 360 too
I think what makes it more accessible is the fact it’s on every Xbox past the 360, but the only sad part here is the lack of PlayStation and Nintendo outings
hey guys i made my sonic tier list, let me know what yall think
master troll
i genuinanly dont think ive finished a sonic game
there just not my thing at all
i think the only thing ive seen teh full one of is the runaway guys playing sonic adventure 1 (because it is like the funniest lp ever made ngl)
The definitive list
fr
i have bad taste sometimes
the definitive "i dont care for the 2d games" list
I'll play black knight soon enough, for sure though
@prisma briar this is like half biased, half based on reviews
well i said fuck the game gear games ok
Lmao
thats a headache i dont have the time or patience for tonight
otherwise, you got any specific comments?
I didn’t expect to see you put unleashed in S, 06 not in last, and respect black knight in A
Well you've helped me to realize that sonic 06 doesn't deserve all the hate it gets
Frankly from your short experience with unleashed I didn’t get the impression you were as blown away as I was
It has a wonderful sense of speed in the daytime sections from what I've played
06 deserves an enormous amount of hate for many reasons, but underneath there is genuinely a great game and I like it a lot
and i believe you that the rest of it is good
Your view on unleashed is entirely dependant on the werehog
I mean kind of
To be honest they're not the worst sections I've played in a game
I just prefer speed in sonic
It’s almost universal that the daytime stages are loved, and the hub worlds are interesting and well received
It’s just the game is either middle tier or god tier depending on if you like the werehog
That's why shit like Rush gives me a such a massive hard on
I’ll get back to that game eventually, bottomless pits ruin a game for me
I respect the list though, fairly basic in places but a few good surprises
They are the games major crux but other than that those games are certified DS hood classics
Also I might be the only guy that legitimately likes the ocean vehicle sections
I've never really had a problem with him that much
I really like the touchscreen trick stuff with the wave cyclone
Honestly sonic on a jet ski is just fucking awesome to me
It's A plus material
I got to a certain level where I always fell down that pit and ran out of lives, so that was me done lol
I’ll go back
its ok
This being said I enjoyed chronicles a lot
I made it to mostly the end on rush adventure
And sonic R is awesome and needs another game
Yeah I put Chronicles in C because it seems to be a very devisive game
I’d prefer your list entirely on your opinion and ignoring games you haven’t really played
Since it’s pretty divisive but I haven’t heard much about it
I’d rather discuss your opinion rather than consensus, but I guess we’re doing that anyway
There were already so many fucking games on that list that were just variants of other games or weird fucking spin offs
I just wanted to put all the main games that I could on there
Well you actually like both, usually why
I actually really enjoy 2d platformers ingeneral, always have tbh
Celeste is one of my absolute favorite games I've played in the past 5 years
It is such a fresh twist on that formula I love it so much
yes, and i fully believe that 3d and 2d sonic should coexist in modern releases
especially when frontiers is fully 3d
Coexist, separately
i mean shit nintendo put a fuckton of money into a new 2d metroid after 20 years and released it before the new 3d one
its a masterpiece
then sega is like fuck it you only get 3d
and genesis nostalgia
the reason i love advance and rush so much is they presented 2D sonic in a new style with a fresh look
makes it distinct from genesis, i always respected that
i dont know if ive said this before but if i have i'll say it again
i think sonic did a better job resurrecting 2d then mario did
especially cuz i think the levels have more variety then the worlds in all 4 new mario bros games
i just want sega to do that again, it honestly frustrates me that they won't
smh shadow belongs in s tier
thats just the shitposter in you talkin
in reality that game is hella janky
This is the peak of Cuphead speedrunning
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Yeah it looks like it's nothing special
Crash 4 is the main star here
Arcadegeddon looks interesting though
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borderlands hyperion weapons stop being useless until I've unloaded half my clip challenge
Giving up and throwing high level tediores instead and running out of ammo every fight challenge
This is a legitimate struggle for me
the biggest struggle is choosing gun loadouts, like how do i compare my SMG to this AR ive found
I tend to go for an SMG, shotgun, rocket launcher and tediore pistol
Or any pistol
But tediore pistols are best bc short clips and large ammo size
see thats the problem, i like too many guns that could just take place of an SMG
Mhm
SMGs, ARs, Pistols all could really take the same place
then decide if you want rockets, shotguns, snipers
and how many of them you want to explode
Mhm
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oh nice
I tend to have at least one sniper and pistol in any loadout
Looks fun
Ooh, insider program on PC
Dual stick controls would be rad.
How are we gonna control the directional movement
Triggers
yeah i hope they stick with the "left stick is directional movement, right stick is trick movement" system
would be confusing if they switched to something else
Use the analog sticks for the board.
i did some gaming today
was it sonic
i got it on switch as a late birthday gift from a friend
and i finished it today
"finished" being did all the levels
very neat
very impressive port on switch, albeit a bit buggy
thats expected
the bugginess wasnt expected but it is present
though nothing game breaking or taking me out of the game really
well i expect switch ports to be at least a little buggy
the lesser hardware doesnt equal bugginess, it just seems to happen
doesnt make it any less true
happens alot
all the bugs bar one were also on the other versions though for this game so i guess thats just the game for you
regardless of the reason
its common with switch ports
damn i wasnt saying that
i will also say i havent played a sonic game all week
comparable to a stoner saying he hasnt smoked weed all week
ive played lego star wars and no mans sky this week
@quasi raptor The Cuphead DLC is hard as fuck
have i mentioned i havent actually played cuphead
the sales never bring it down farther than $13.99
i kinda wanted to get it for 10 bucks
You're never getting it for that
Bite the bullet I say
K
Plus I got 40 hours out of the main game alone
i get paid tomorrow i was probly going to anyway
probly gonna go for the switch version
doesnt the pc version have controller support tho
and my pc controller pairs easily with most games
yeah i know, just sayin
controller isnt the reason i'd be buying it for switch
nontindu snonch
nintendo snitch
barely anyone on my friends list has been online on the switch for a good while
yeah i havent often been using mine recently
sadness
i wanna play more of dread but like most metroid games i feel lost after booting it up for the first time in centuries
oh
easy and hard mode, few other little things
i know about the updates
i heard it was fairly long
SXL and Session do that.
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omg they added the All Your Base Are Belong to Us game
comix zone looks neat
The funny thing is I already have other ways of playing comix zone
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im sorry
They could add anything but your 2nd comment will always be
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megaman wily wars is a dope addition tho
I don’t touch Genesis games tbf
thought genesis was really good for 2D sonk
yeah and im still not buying nso expansion
Exactly
I don’t care
Lol
average sonic 2006 fan (based)
for anything other than sonic you mean
Huh
I don’t even care for sonic 2, I just like the 3D stuff
I don’t touch genesis games at all, I play N64 a fair amount though
Most of my old gaming experiences was way more N64 than anything before it
I played goldeneye N64 splitscreen yesterday
obvsly slammed so hard & beat everyone
also starwars podracer & diddy kong racing
Comix zone is fun but it's a bitch to beat
I played it on the mega drive colection
@waxen dome I have made it to season 3
Yoo nice
I haven't seen anything but the first 2 episodes of season 3 so no spoilers lol
Same, Viktor’s transition wasn’t really a surprise though considering that he’s trans in real life and came out after season 2
Yeah true
It's nice they're doing a full transition instead of retconning his gender tho
It could've been handled way worse tbh
It's nice it's done well
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I'll watch it after I'm home from my friend's house
Don't most people that put things in the watch later list immediately forget about them
I sure do
Nah, I go back and watch most of it
I do need to go clean out all the stuff I've already watched though because it accumulates 
It kind of changes the game for me ngl
Clearly I've watched all of these 😂
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Me too 
yea i do lol
then it just appears in my reccomended
pikasprey's clock tower snes part 2 will always be there and i will never watch it because i put it on watch later by accident
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It's comparable to how I saw they were making John madden himself the cover art for madden this year
its pretty cool I like it when they honor legends like this
Hopefully not a curse tho
wait what do you mean
The Madden Curse
Oh yeah they have a legend edition usually, they’ve had one for Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, and one year they even just made it have three different cover athletes so your game can either have Jordan, Larry Bird, or Magic Johnson
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glad we got 8 switch pro videos and its just this lmao
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what do you mean switch pro videos
If you followed any gaming news channel in the past few days everyone and their dog were chatting about Nintendo privating the OLED reveal video and the Lite? Also influx of parts and an application for NSW copyright, Nintendo breathes and 8 channels make switch pro rumours
And after all that we get a splatoon edition so there’s that
oh yeah i was assuming you probly meant rumours
but the way you phrased it was pretty vague
in the past few days? no not really
even i have my limits or miss some things lol
I know
classic nintendo move
Well classic gaming channels too I suppose
I wouldn’t expect much new for the switch during the chip shortage
oh i didnt hear about that
well rip i guess
Well there isn’t a PS5 on the shelf for a reason
true
They’re easier than they were but still not on shelves
Chip shortage is continuing for a year or even two longer
Plus I wouldn’t expect the switch to have the same life span as the Wii U did lol
My earliest guess is a cross platform release of BOTW2, at the absolute earliest
technically it was only a few years
third party supporters dipped surprisingly quick
It was still the newest console from November 2012 to March 2017
ok we're five years in now yeah
I would not expect a 100m selling console to only be the main thing for 5 years when the Wii U was that for about that long
but i honestly think itll last a few more
I can see another 2 years if they want
hmm
Maybe a lite revision but that’s about it
its still selling
Like I said, earliest I can see is BOTW2, but I mean I’d expect drop offs aren’t gonna happen this year
So it could be 2024
at this point i think if they do a new console now its just cause they want us to have to give them money again
Isn’t that why they release anything
i know it was 2017 and this may sound a bit weird to say, but the switch still feels fairly new to me
It feels.. current at least
It’s only gonna lack 3rd party if they’re pushing towards ps5/series X, that’s the only argument here
That the switch won’t keep up with other consoles and won’t be able to run versions of games
All this being said, I like switch versions of games; they’re fun
i think if nintendo at the very least makes hardware thats on par with the PS4/Xbox One they'll be good for awhile
thats the only case i can see for a new console now
otherwise everyone loves the switch, the hardware shortcomings havent been a huge issue for most people
and for a fan like me i always expect them to be behind the curve anyways
its something ya really get used to
Everyone expects that
It’s been the case since the Wii
But they currently aren’t on that par, so we’re at that middle point between consoles but after the others had made new ones, it’ll be interesting to see how that goes
yeah theyve been weird with timing console releases
wii u and switch specifically
wii u was a year before ps4 and xbone came out
that was a curse
so if ya think about its its a miracle the switch was a hit
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digital store fronts literally always suck for this
feels pretty dry for gaming news lately
robocop game got me hype
Yeah but pc only
ok
cries
do we need to clarify this for every sale, like "yeah but playstation sale only ://///"
k sorry
plus these are lego games, not exactly enormous graphical showcases
pretty sure a shitty laptop would run one or two of these
also the GAME store was doing 2 for £25 on switch lego games recently, that ain't bad
Yeah but the newer ones aren't gonna run on the pc I have
Something like star wars the complete saga I could probably run
Yeah I know
:/
Sorry for boring you with things you already know about my underpowered pc
Well you could always buy the console counterparts if you were that fussed
very swag
At 1st I was only gonna send you a pic of house of the dead
But then I realized oh yeah hes British
James bond
house of the dead on wii is gud
Amazing
hope you have 2 wii motes and light gun shells
I've been watching the Daniel Craig films recently and it really made me want a copy of blood stone
Doesn't that have like 5 discs
3
oh
most a 360 game ever had was 4 i think
Also what are your thoughts on house of the dead
It's a sega franchise
It has house of the dead 3 too which I've never played
hey @spark yarrow have you ever heard of a game called Steep?
snowboarding thing
I just discovered this and thought it looked cool and bought it today
It was on sale
yeah!
Looks fun, sad that it had always online DRM, dunno if that's since been disabled
i saw a little bit of gameplay and of course it reminded me a little bit of SSX
Yeah, though IIRC it's a lot more realistic, maybe more like Amped?
I wanna play amped 2, played a bit of 3 once and it was fun
also now you get a wingsuit too hahaha
Did I tell you how I got amped 2?
dont remember if i did
I can't remember anyway
it was a thrift store find 😎
ayyy
found return to castle wolfenstein for 50p in a charity shop once, was great
Manual and all included
love looking in thrift shops
I tend to call them charity shops because I'm used to calling them that here, but it might just be that every one I've ever been to has been for a charity
CeX has been decent for finds recently
My local one and Planet Games has been excellent
I haven't been in a cex in a little bit, might see about trading a PSP harry potter film collection in, along with some PS3 games
might use that to bolster my PS2 collection
I don’t really trade in, just look at the 360/PS3 era games and try find a bargain
Dad was very impressed with my final fantasy efforts
oh hey they sell Wii Us for £85
then again the first one I saw on eBay was £79.99 and also had a mario kart 8 disc
yeah true
@quasi raptor Now that I think about it, Wolfwood would fit into the Cowboy Bebop universe so well. 🤔
whats wolfwood
A character in Trigun
I know that doesn't really mean anything to you, I just thought of it since you said Cowboy Bebop and Trigun are often compared
They're different in a lot of ways, but the comparisons are definitely warranted
I kinda feel like Wolfwood specifically could be in either show
I feel like the biggest difference in vibe is that Cowboy Bebop feels a bit...darker somehow? It's kind of noir inspired IIRC, which probably feeds into that
Wolfwood's got that dark and mysterious energy that would fit well with that whole vibe
Kinda kiiiiiiiiiiiinda reminds me of Spike
Like if you crossed Wolfwood with Jake Peralta from Brooklyn Nine Nine you'd get Spike
I guess Meryl kinda has a similar energy as Faye too, but...spunkier, louder, and less cool/smooth 🤔
In general I think that's the biggest difference in vibe. In Cowboy Bebop everyone takes themselves more seriously and seem more...introspective, whereas in Trigun most of the characters are more...I don't know how to describe it
They wear their hearts on their sleeve more? There's a lot less mystery. Like, you feel like you know them and who they are and what they're about much faster. But not in a one-dimensional way because they've got plenty of depth. It's not immediately apparent, but it's slowly introduced as those aspects of their personalities become relevant. They come across more...confident in who they are? Equally shit world, but less pessimistic? Not afraid to show their flaws?
I don't know, ignore me, I'm just rambling 😂
I may have said this before but there's a quote I heard somewhere once
"Cowboy Bebop is a sci-fi with western elements
And Trigun is a western with sci-fi elements"
Yeah, exactly
Cowboy Bebop leans heavily into the space part of space western and less into western. Trigun is the complete opposite.
Whenever I notice the Western elements in Bebop though it's fucking awesome
Trigun is essentially a western but with robots, spaceships, and "lost technology"
Like the parts where they use the really mellow harmonica music
didnt trigun also come out in 1998
I think so, yeah
I don't think it was made by the same people as cowboy
I don't think so either
But I know that samurai champloo was
That's another gem I'll probably watch someday
I need to watch Outlaw Star, the other 90s space western anime lol
It seems like a pretty interesting sub genre
I saw some of Outlaw Star when it was on Cartoon Network and wanted to watch more but it was much harder to find and watch shows back then
That one seemed like a nice blend between space and western
I barely remember anything about it though, just that I enjoyed what I did see
Did you ever watch The Big O? That's got a similar noir vibe as Cowboy Bebop
I haven't
Can I admit something to you
Cowboy bebop is currently the only anime I've actually finished
lol

but if it means anything
Cowboy is one of the greatest shows I have ever seen in my life
and i mean that
I really do need to rewatch it
I've gotta whip out my DVD of the cowboy bebop movie and finish it soon
My dog almost destroyed the case
My friend was so obsessed with Cowboy Bebop that it kind of soured me on it a bit, tbh
Oh nooooo
that gave me major anxiety when I found out that happened
The disk will be fine
I'm just really upset the case had to take a hit like that
i Really like the way the cover looks
One of my favorite spike scenes ever is that opening scene from the movie where he catches a bounty in a convenience store
I'm not sure if I ever saw the movie
If you don't remember what I'm talking about please watch it right now
I want to say I did but I'm not positive
Cowboy Bebop: The Movie returns to select theaters! August 15 (Subbed) & August 16 (Dubbed).
Go to https://www.funimationfilms.com/movie... to buy your tickets today and relive the anime classic, Knockin' on Heaven's Door!
Caught up in a world of dreams, lost in the cruelty of reality.
What should have been an easy ...
Everything about this is excellent
The way they animate spike's fighting style in this scene is fucking excellent
his kicks really pop
Literally the definition of Wolfwood
Honestly watching this is bringing it back to me a bit
Wasn't there also a scene on a train...monorail thingie?
Also the vibe of this is kinda more similar to Trigun than I remembered. Trigun just turns it up to 11 and is a bit more exaggerated.
And doesn't the movie take place canonically between two episodes like 2/3rds of the way through the show?
Damn I really haven't thought about Cowboy Bebop in so long
Definitely gonna watch it after Trigun
I've been wanting to rewatch it so I can watch the live action reboot. I know it had...er...mixed reviews but I'm still curious.
Cowboy Bebop is just incredibly beautiful to me with how it handles its characters
I don't remember edwards storyline as well but
Spike, Jet, and Faye all have so many twists and turns with their arcs and backstory and absolutely none of it feels forced
What's funny is that I only watched like 20 minutes of the 1st episode
And the opening scene of that episode is incredibly similar to the scene from the movie I just showed you
I heard the show was pretty much just mid
After hearing all the slander about what it did wrong I don't really feel like watching any more of it
That's fair I guess
Also they canceled season 2
Did you know that
I've forgotten so much about Cowboy Bebop that I barely even remember the main plot
Season one wasn't even a full adaptation of the original story
I did hear about that
I did hear they really fucked up vicious too
Oof
That dude was really menacing for how much he wasn't in the original series
Apparently they really dialed up his screen time to 11
in the live action one
And it sucked because they didn't really do him as well as the anime did
So much of the original's writing is deeply profound and beautiful
and it seems the remake's creators werent able to translate that, or even fully understand it
exactly
It's rather tragic because they deserved the chance to try to get the rest of the story right in season 2
Given that there was more story from the original anime left to tell there was plenty of room for improvement
the whole point of the og Cowboy Bebop was by the end of the series ||half the cast had gone there own way, season 2 would just have faaar less going on||
That wasn't what I was saying
A season 2 of the live action was necessary because they didn't adapt the entire story
Edward wasnt even in the first season til the very end
Yeah you may have misinterpreted that entire conversation
And I wasn't even saying that they needed to make a season 2 of the original anime
It's just that the netflix show was literally half of an adaptation
cuz they decided to beef up the run time for all of the episodes
it’s just such a hodgepodge of source material
even the opening is a abridged scene from an episode, with music from the movie, reusing dialogue from the movie
it’s honestly very derivative
Yeah it seems they just remixed everything
I havent seen the whole thing I was going off of what I've heard to be honest
(which is terrible)
I think cowboy bebop is very intentionally crafted so just remixing it for practically no reason is just worthless
Yeah, the original is one of my favorite shows ever
its a dumb move
@quasi raptor @spark yarrow @supple thunder
any of you guys fussed in a lego marvel superheroes steam key, you were the first 3 i thought would care
anyone else for that matter also, a spare code from humble bundle
I'll pass, but thanks for thinking of me!
@prisma briar i played sone sonic rush last night
Did he run fast
beat a whooping one act of a zone
I don’t think that’s mathematically accurate
You’d have to be quite picky to find out though
I was just trying to be funny and bust out the classic unnecessary 2d versus 3d debate
I know what you’re doing, I’m choosing to ignore it to ruin your joke
sonic rush went hard
Also because I do think generations is the fastest game
I just want you to acknowledge that sonic rush had a really good sense of speed too
I have played the game, it has a boost button
yeH
I’d be quite surprised if it didn’t
I just appreciate the stat that generations is faster than unleashed even if many people incorrectly think otherwise
Sonic Unleashed is the sonic game that you simp for
and Sonic Rush is the sonic game i simp for
speed in 3D games is usually hard to judge
Not when you can mod one into the other and directly compare
And mod the levels of a 3rd back into that one
You can directly compare colours, generations and unleashed
The only that stands in the way is the Mach speed of 06, but I think gens is still much faster
this is exactly what I mean 😭
It is?
it’s hard to gauge 3D movement speeds unless going through some complex diagnostics.. even one being faster doesn’t technically mean it feels faster or controls well
stuff like camera fov and angles.. even like the frame rate, so variable
Zoooom
You’re just over complicating the point for nothing, one game can just be faster than the other, the sense of speed is another thing, which isn’t exclusive to 3D games either, still not actually depleting the point of the speeds not being hard to judge with mods
Plus you could make the same argument for 2d games anyway as they can I incorporate the same techniques
Plus objective speed doesn’t involve controls or feel, it’s an objective statistic, sense of speed and control is an entirely different question
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Oh wow!
Also, part of me thought that was gonna say sales
which would be a feat and a half given the PS2 is the best selling console of all time IIRC
Oh huh, someone's been tracking the switch library themselves and recorded over 7000 games
given the switch has digital publishing on its side, makes sense that it'd surpass the PS2
that and the PS2 hasn't been a current system for about 15 years
Ps2 was officially supported for ages to be fair
Like as far as fifa 14 came out on PS2
But digital stuff has really expanded the library
yeah, true!
Ahhhh @quasi raptor I totally forgot that the girl who voices Milly also voices Judy!
I'm still very early in Cowboy Bebop but it's slowly coming back to me
Trigun is definitely...goofier, where Cowboy Bebop takes itself more seriously, and Cowboy Bebop's animation is much cleaner. But there's definitely similarities. I think these are the main reasons that Bebop is usually considered the "better" show. Much more palatable for non-anime fans too.
struggled to get into trigun
Personally, I really enjoy the juxtaposition and mood whiplash that Trigun has, going from the over-exaggerated silly moments to the tear your heart out serious emotional moments, and I just generally find the premise way more interesting
The second half of Trigun is way more serious so if you weren't vibing with it, try watching from episode 13 on
Actually no, 12
Episode 12 is where it introduces an actual plot arc that lasts for most of the rest of the series. Then episode 13 is a recap episode.
These are really the only episodes you HAAAAVE to watch to really get the overall plot. Not to say the other episodes aren't good or are filler...Quick Draw and Escape From Pain are both fantastic
The show starts REALLY getting good at episode 5: Hard Puncher, so if you didn't make it that far, I highly recommend continuing.
Weirdly I watched it completely out of order my first time because I watched whatever VHS I could get my hands on haha. I ended up seeing a lot of the latter episodes before the earlier ones and tbh I'm a little glad I did.
Ohhhhhhhh
the chick from the bounty hunter commercials on that show
I had to look it up
I legitimately forgot that her name was Judy
I should watch Trigun given I've watched the other two "guy in a big red coat with a gun" anime
That being Hellsing and Devil May Cry
I should watch the Hellsing reboot. I liked the original but I heard the reboot was even better.
But yes, I will recommend Trigun to anyone who will listen lol. As I said before, it's legitimately one of my alltime favorite shows.
I just realized, maybe Goodbye For Now should be in there but it's not like... super important or necessary.
Ugggghhhhh I know nobody cares but I need to just

Vash screaming in anguish with Meryl on the other side of the door listening and crying just

And in honor of me finishing the show, I present a series of screenshots that detail the progression of the tone and energy of the show
Early show: goofy, funny, relatively light, oh silly Vash and his crazy antics, how is he always getting in such trouble?
Mid-show: Oh shit, this is getting a bit more serious but it's still pretty entertaining...oh fuck oh shit Vash is SCARY when he's angry
Mid-show: Oh damn, Vash has been through a lot, poor baby
so that's how he got into this mess...
Late show:
🥺
Now I'm rereading the Trigun manga...starts at essentially episode 5 and just throws you RIGHT in. Similar vibe but feels extremely rushed, and I feel like the voice acting and animation of the show add so much more emotion. Trigun Maximum is supposed to be better, and I didn't get very far into that, so I'm looking forward to reading it.

Damn, reading the manga and I'm realizing Manga!Vash + Deadpool = Anime!Vash lmao
Manga Vash is clever and a bit of a sad sack, but not nearly as wild or chaotic
That being said, anime Vash isn't as chaotic as Deadpool, but it's like if you added his sense of humor to manga Vash
its funny it doesnt have any toilet water on it
yeah its funny they didnt both didnt have toilet water on them
Yeah, amazingly cheap for a bad game
yeah especially considering how much 3ds prices have been skyrocketing
i was trying to get my mom to see if she could grab me kid icarus uprising for my birthday
that game is 100 dollars now
on average
so yeah no
It’s not quite that much here
lucky
Apparently so
I beat that game twice when I was a tween/teen
But it was a library copy
I always wanted my own copy of that game
Because it's a masterpiece
Yea ok sure
You like Radiohead you can't comment on other stuff sucking
Okay this is actually kinda terrifying. Didn't realize plants had babies growing out of their backs.
Headless babies at that
@prisma briar you might care
sega cd holy fuck
Maybe they'll add Sega CD games to to the switch online later on
If that happens I think I might actually buy it
It was just that weird add on era that most companies were trying
The reason I'd want it is because those games haven't really been preserved as much as genesis
I’m not really fussed about any sega console until the dreamcast
fair
I just want more dreamcast games to be brought back than just Crazy Taxi and sonic adventure
or jet set
Hell would be nice for jet set radio's sequel to be re-released
Video games
bru
I'm amused how they turned this...
Into this...
I will say that even though the manga feels very rushed in comparison to the show, I do like that things are explained much more clearly. In the show sometimes if you don't pick up on a single line's implication, you miss important info, and because there's more filler/a slower pace, you never know when important info is coming.
I also find it interesting how they rearranged the chronology...technically I guess episode 4 was the manga pilot, but it's kind of a standalone bonus chapter. Then it starts at episode 5, jumps to 7 and 8, 14, back to 12...
I'll also say that I really appreciate the filler they added in the show. I think it really helps to set the tone of the show. There's one minor spoiler that happens like REAAAAAALLY early on in the manga that doesn't happen until halfway through the show: ||Vash's bounty is removed and he's designated a localized disaster and instead of trying to capture him, they're officially just supposed to stay the fuck away from him||. I think this was done better in the show because ||it really shows you what Vash's life has been like up until this point, and what he's been dealing with, and how he's earned his reputation. His bounty only drew more trouble to him and caused more destruction.||
Although after that happens, ||you'd think life would improve, except that's when Knives sends a team of assassins after him, but at least he's no longer dealing with bounty hunters I guess?|| 
I also hate how on streaming services the opening credits are the same every time. They originally had clips unique to every episode, and halfway through the show the shot with ||his wanted poster|| changes to reflect what I mentioned above.
Okay I just checked and it updates on the subbed version on Hulu but they made it so the same for the dub. That's fucking annoying.
It wasn't like that in the original release because I watched the dub and it had that. 
Sorry I'll stop ranting now.
PlayStation Stars loyalty program announced https://t.co/2dKIh8YTSp
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Sew knee thing
Oh god what now haha
thats good
fuck nfts
i got a dm from some rando today asking if i wanted to buy an nft
i do hope they're avatars and wallpapers though
yea
I love the switch doing those
i think every modern platform does
even xbox?
i of course wouldnt know
i dunno, they do have a rewards programme
nice
I should get a used 360 entirely for the avatar creator
I missed out the first time
for anyone who cares about skate

live service smh
honestly i just dont like that
its fine until i see the name "EA"
i get live service in a game like fortnite, thats the kind of game it is
free to play
but not for an old series
thats just supposed to be about skateboarding
i could see it working at least, you could have many areas with real people skating about like it was a real skate park
the premise isnt bad at all, i just dont expect with EA involved for it to go too well
plus, y'know, a lot of people wanted skate 4, so they'd be disappointed too
I'd hold some judgement as it could still be really good
I know
but i'd understand the caution
its an immediate red flag
since F2P live service games are a real dice roll of awful or good
i was fully willing to spend 60 bucks on skate 4
im sure EA were fully willing to CHARGE 60 bucks for live service skate
yeah
augh :(
live service AND reboot with the same name as the original >:(
I do also fear that the game will lean too much into the wacky stuff like 3 did
but stuff like the collaboratively-built zones seem neat
they say this now
I expect the devs want this to be good, but it's an EA game
I'll be kinda surprised if it doesn't turn out to be a big name rushed into a game just for money and because EA saw all the other games trying to bring back what Skate had
like Session and Skater XL
https://www.si.com/mlb/2022/07/14/unvaccinated-royals-lack-of-commitment-the-opener fucking royals org is an embarrassment
Can’t believe I paid stadium price for a Whit Merrifield shirtsey, but that was 2016
Fuck that guy, should get DFAd
@outer kiln how’d you feel if one of your favorite dodgers players said they’d get the shot and not miss games if they were on a different/better team
Jesus
@quasi raptor I know yesterday I wasn't in voice chat so idk exactly what was said on your end but I got the gist that you were under the impression Vash is a bit of a dick or something (which tbh the premise kind of wants you to go in with preconceived notions about what a wanted outlaw is like so it can subvert everything you expect, while still having very good reasons for him to be wanted and in the situation he's in) but I saw this video and it's just a quick explanation of what makes him such a great, well rounded character.
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTR67xPjN/?k=1
Sorry if I'm being too pushy/annoying with the Trigun stuff btw, I'm just in totally hyperfixation mode, plus I genuinely think you'd enjoy it
I heard there's a new trigun anime next year actually
Yep, Trigun Stampede!

