#Saviors Discussion

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terse orchid
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I thought his voice sounded younger than normal on the live stream last night

keen pewter
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this line in particular reads to me like it’s about Joey

subtle ravine
static flint
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i don’t think that’s about joey lmao

keen pewter
static flint
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that’s fair

terse orchid
static flint
keen pewter
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like it’s scary that he still loves his son despite the fucked up shit he did and how angry he is

subtle ravine
static flint
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nah i can see how much effort they put in

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like

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the orchestra is beautiful

keen pewter
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it’s one of the weakest tracks for me but I still love it

static flint
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but it’s just boring to me

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idk

keen pewter
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Saviors and Corvette Summer are my least favs

static flint
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i still don’t like suzie chapstick

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i think it’s ass

terse orchid
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OEB is my least favorite because I think he’s leaned into “sassy” Billie more than enough in recent years… if that makes sense.

keen pewter
ornate zenith
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And it makes sense for a song about fatherhood and sometimes feeling like it’s a struggle

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Son sucks but I still have to love him because I can’t not, scary

keen pewter
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great way to put it

ornate zenith
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Lyrically a great song IMO

keen pewter
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probably the strongest song on the album lyrically

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or at least up there

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nvm it’s not the strongest but it is lyrically very strong

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so does Coma City

ornate zenith
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I expect a father to still love his shitty son, but ideally still love them by expecting better from them

static flint
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how are yall not mentioning dilemma

keen pewter
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cmon jar

ornate zenith
keen pewter
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okay well the parts where there’s actually words

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John did you see the modmail message

terse orchid
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Strange Days has the best lyrics imo

ornate zenith
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That’s gotta be a prank

keen pewter
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bro it HAS to be

ornate zenith
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Either intentionally or unintentionally hilarious

keen pewter
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it already made its way to the starboard

ornate zenith
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But also whoever the prankster is doesn’t know how nuclear family works

keen pewter
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and Cygnus made it a copypasta

keen pewter
ornate zenith
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Laughing my ass off in the pharmacy rn

keen pewter
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genuinely stared at it for five minutes trying to figure out what the fuck I read

knotty crow
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laughing my ass off at this in walmart rn

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people in the skincare section looking at me funny

static flint
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help

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i’ve had fever stuck in my head all day and i can’t even put the song on to help

subtle ravine
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SAME LMAO

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I NEED TO HEAR IT

static flint
subtle ravine
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I've been having that snippet on loop bro

static flint
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i understand what people mean when they say it sounds like a high school film song

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but

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it slaps

subtle ravine
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Bro my mom asked me to play this album in full again she really loved it lmao

hearty solar
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WHAT WEBSITE

static flint
hearty solar
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thats not a FUCKING website

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it kinda sounds like a trilogy song

static flint
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idk then

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sorry

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jar sent me it cuz i loved the leak lmao

rancid arch
acoustic canopy
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want the link?

hearty solar
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yes

acoustic canopy
hearty solar
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thjank uuu

acoustic canopy
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yeah

hearty solar
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heres the .mp3!

static flint
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it’s so cutesy

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i love it

rancid arch
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Father to a Son sounds like Save Me by Queen.

violet needle
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Damn juvenile delinquents would’ve fit better from the snippets

ornate zenith
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@hearty solar you can’t send file downloads of songs here

hearty solar
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shit sorry

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It wasn't the full thing, 50 seconds of it, but its understandable.

static flint
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in all fairness

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it is technically out

ornate zenith
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That part doesn’t matter

static flint
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we just haven’t got it here yet

ornate zenith
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You can’t send file downloads for copyrighted content period

static flint
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alr

hearty solar
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Farter of all shits

strong valve
hearty solar
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thats awesome

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I woke up to a message of stink
Choking up on the shit from above

keen pewter
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BILLIE NO

subtle ravine
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Billie said the n word again guys

ornate zenith
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I turn that shit up

knotty crow
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got suzie chapstick and father to a son stuck in my head at walmart

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like i’m gonna cry in the middle of a store

hearty solar
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me when I get no bastard cake oneeyedbastard

knotty crow
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i made bastard cake last night

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i also made an offer that you can’t deny

hearty solar
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one pied bastard

knotty crow
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that’s just pie in the sky

ornate zenith
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What is this from

hearty solar
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real life

ornate zenith
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Fuck

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He's gonna kill me?

hearty solar
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yeeeeep

ornate zenith
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Can he hurry up

obsidian harbor
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Not again Billie…

subtle ravine
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Right in the bloody, bloody heart?

obsidian harbor
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I need someone to layer Sweet Child of Mine over the intro to Saviors

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They’re very similar melodically and I just wanna hear it at this point

ornate zenith
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It’s been so awesome seeing so many people here and on the subreddit be so happy with the album. Seriously feels like Green Day Christmas and it hasn’t been like that since 2016 so it’s really cool. Not just for people to like the album but it’s awesome that it’s almost universally loved already and we’re all having a good time today with it

subtle ravine
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RIGHT?

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It makes me so happy too

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With Father of All it was all so fucking depressing when it dropped because it was so poorly received by everyone

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And that was my first Green Day album rollout so it all felt just extra disappointing to me

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But this time it's so different and nice

strong valve
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RevRad was a special album for me. It released right when I started my freshman year of college. It will always have a special place in my heart.

ornate zenith
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I have seen very few Saviors haters. Actually I haven’t seen any saviors haters just some saviors meh-ers

keen pewter
wooden matrix
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Same im so happy to see all the positive reception

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completely deserved by gd

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so refreshing

subtle ravine
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Bro I was showing Saviors to a friend who hasn't heard a Green Day album in a while and they liked it but they skipped Fancy Sauce 5 seconds in BRO😭

wooden matrix
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nah they didn’t even give it a chance

subtle ravine
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THEY DIDN'T

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They also skipped Father to a Son bro

obsidian harbor
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I mean fancy sauce does start slow

ornate zenith
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Also freshman year of college for me

wooden matrix
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I got my cousin to listen to the album during his plane ride, hopefully he likes it

violet needle
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Same

keen pewter
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babby sox

ornate zenith
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Babby

subtle ravine
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Is Fever still a no show?

knotty crow
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yeah he cancelled on drinks again

subtle ravine
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I can't fucking believe I'm looking forward to Fever dude

wooden matrix
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I am too

subtle ravine
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That snippet just sounds so groovy and catchy

fleet stone
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Honestly Strange Days remembered me of Letterbomb with Dookie's album strumming patterns

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I feel like it would be my top fav if the solo was a bit longer, I feel it was like forced to end, idk

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I get that weird feeling after it

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My top favorite ones are Dilemma or Saviors

keen pewter
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the snippet sounds like dog shit

hearty solar
keen pewter
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it do

hearty solar
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It sounds really good

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n stuff

keen pewter
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it sounds like Here Comes The Shock levels of bad

hearty solar
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How much did you hear of it? The new 40 something second one or the 10 second?

subtle ravine
keen pewter
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the new 40 second one

hearty solar
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wtf

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It sounds good

subtle ravine
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That one sounds so cool bro

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Like not amazing but good

keen pewter
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copium

subtle ravine
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Nah I fr can't get it off my head lol

keen pewter
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you just got a crazy good album from Green Day and yall are looking forward to a throwaway foam song

subtle ravine
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That's also part of it probably LMAO

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I guess I just really like the FOAM vibes. I mean my favorite song on Saviors is Corvette Summer

hearty solar
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Fever sounds so catchy, it’s stuck in my head

ornate zenith
keen pewter
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youths these days

subtle ravine
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Like bro I'm starving for a new Foxboro album

hearty solar
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wtf I just want to hear the full thing because it’s so catchy

subtle ravine
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I fucking love garage rock

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And my favorite band doing it is sick

ornate zenith
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Listen to Dos

knotty crow
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and stop drop and roll

subtle ravine
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I listen to those a lot lol

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Makeout Party my believed

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BELOVED*

knotty crow
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makeout party my beleaguered

subtle ravine
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I love FOAM but Teenage Teenager is unforgivable

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That song just sucks

ornate zenith
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I swear to god I'm the only person whose favorite foam song is I was a teenage teenager

subtle ravine
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That's crazy lol

hearty solar
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I also really like it

subtle ravine
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I always hated it

hearty solar
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I don’t understand the hate

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Meet Me on the Roof is terrible though

ornate zenith
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I like foam more than most

subtle ravine
ornate zenith
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And by more than most I mean it's not my least favorite

fleet stone
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Like, not my fav from that one, but I don't hate it

subtle ravine
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Meet Me on the Roof is my most listened to song on Spotify

ornate zenith
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Now that's wild

hearty solar
subtle ravine
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And second to that is fucking Holy Toledo

hearty solar
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jaw dropping

ornate zenith
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Did you just start using spotify last year

subtle ravine
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Nah

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I just like

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Played Holy Toledo like two days straight when it dropped

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I fucking loved that damn song

ornate zenith
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Also i'd like the haters to know that my lesbian sister's favorite song after Bobby Sox is Corvette Summer

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Haters

subtle ravine
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CORVETTE SUMMER POG

hearty solar
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Corvette Summer is really good

ornate zenith
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There's some haters in here

subtle ravine
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I should make a Green Day Garage Rock playlist idk why I haven't done that yet

hearty solar
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Also, Pollyanna with Saviors mixing would be great.

subtle ravine
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It would've been goated

ornate zenith
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Almost anything with Saviors mix would be great

worn gull
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Corvette Summer is fun

subtle ravine
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CLA and Cavallo did such a great job with Saviors

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I would love to see another GD album produced by Butch Vig tho

ornate zenith
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Same

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Saviors mix feels a lot like 21CB at times

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The guitar at least

quiet warren
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I LOVE corvette summer

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It’s #3 for me

ornate zenith
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Same

wooden matrix
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my sister loves bobby sox

subtle ravine
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The cowbell is so good

ornate zenith
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I concur with the Corvette Summer cowbell being the best auxiliary percussion in a rock song since Short Skirt Long Jacket

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Can't get enough

wooden matrix
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it adds a lot to the song

quiet warren
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Graffitia is easily the best song on FOAM

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You’re high John

ornate zenith
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Okay Graffitia is the best

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I just love teenage teenager

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It's crazy I usually air guitar with songs, but then with corvette summer I air cowbell

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Except for that last lick of the solo that rules

worn gull
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Wtf

ornate zenith
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During the chorus

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Listen for it

worn gull
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I've had to sit through Short Skirt Long Jacket so many times and I've never noticed that

ornate zenith
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Oh

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No there's a vibraslap

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I meant auxiliary percussion in general

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Corvette Summer has epic cowbell, Short Skirt Long Jacket has epic vibraslap

knotty crow
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cake mentioned

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as a self proclaimed cake superfan short skirt long jacket is decidedly mid

ornate zenith
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Ope

knotty crow
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i've always thought the title track from that album was the better song

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comfort eagle

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but not as much cool vibraslap in that song

worn gull
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I like Going The Distance

knotty crow
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eh that one's ok

worn gull
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And the cover of Mahna Manha

ornate zenith
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I prefer love you madly from comfort eagle

worn gull
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Those are the only songs ik

ornate zenith
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Title track is great though

knotty crow
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no phone is also a good cake song

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and sick of you from their "newest" album

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which was 12? years ago

ornate zenith
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2011

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Jesus

knotty crow
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it's been a long time

ornate zenith
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They're touring now

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Make some new music jesus

knotty crow
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they had a single in i think 2016

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sinking ship

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that's a good song too

ornate zenith
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Their most recent album is from two years after 21CB

knotty crow
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and another song that the lead singer posted on twitter in 2021

ornate zenith
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Ridiculous

knotty crow
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sounded like a demo

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but yeah john mccrea is like 60 so i don't think new music is gonna happen

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i wish they'd tour here though

wooden matrix
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Get around, I can get around

knotty crow
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corvette summer absolutely could be a late-era cake song though

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like it would work

ornate zenith
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Video is too long, can you give me a timestamp

knotty crow
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youtube equivalent of "yeah i aint reading all that, im happy for u tho or sorry that happened"

bold relic
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finally got to listen to the whole album and my ranking is
1.Living in the 20's
2.Dilemma
3.Fancy Sauce
4.Goodnight Adeline
5.Strange Days are Here to Stay
6.One Eyed Bastard
7.Bobby Sox
8.1981
9.Coma City
10.Father to a Son
11.Corvette Summer
12.Look Ma, No Brains
13.Saviors
14.Suzie Chapstick
15.The American Dream Is Killing Me

rocky ivy
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Definitely gonna let my thoughts on the whole album simmer for a bit, but my Top 3 as of now is Look Ma, 1981, and Suzie Chapstick

subtle ravine
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Holy SHIT they're not even trying to hide that they're lying LMAO

fierce trout
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LMAOO

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yeah man youd assume SOMEONE stole it

ornate zenith
fierce trout
eager swan
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Look ma is the GOAT

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Followed by Suzie and Sauce

strong valve
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Man. I want to sleep so I can get to the station early in the morning to catch my train home but I just keep thinking about what a ride we’ve had for the past 4 months with this band.

knotty crow
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hearing tadikm for the first time

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the hype was real

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promotion for saviors was excellent

strong valve
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Beginning of the era and the album release. Just very humbling.

sacred bone
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#band-news message Between being a single, the music video and this bobby sox seems like a candinate for the setlist. It does fill a similar space to coming clean though.

eager swan
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Best promotion they've done for an album I think ??? I was a kid during AI and 21stcbd era so I wouldn't know.
Maybe the anniversaries also had something to do with this huge promotion.

sacred bone
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did you forget this peak promotion?

eager swan
idle thicket
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Worst song so far is Bobby Sox at a 6/10

tired shale
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This album is a pristine mixed bag, it's good despite the different flavors this is getting mostly positive reception

strong valve
glacial topaz
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Call her green day cuz im her Savior

strong valve
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What does that even mean

strong valve
glacial topaz
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Bro don't know

strong valve
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Know what

strong valve
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wtf

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Explain

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Please elaborate

fierce trout
glacial topaz
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Oh shit ur an og

half verge
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rn my favorite songs are 1981, saviors, goodnight adeline

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basic songs but damn they're good

violet jay
eager swan
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My least favourites
Comacity
Goodnight Adeline
Corvette Summer
Strange days are here to say.
Saviors

They remind me of the Triology too much, not that I hate the triology. They're good songs to listen to once in a while. Not much interesting but it's still playable.

deft violet
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Random opinion, Saviors should have been a three part song with Strange Days are Here to Stay - Living in the '20s - Saviors all worked into one epic song

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Maybe you could throw Coma City in there

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Strange Days are Here to Stay into Coma City which explodes into Living in the '20s and then Saviors as the epic-y ending.

eager swan
half verge
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Someone needs to mix that rn

tired shale
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After having repeatedly listened to and collected my thoughts on Saviors, I have somewhat of an amateur "review"

What an incredible return to form, it's not the absolute greatest of Green Day's work by a longshot but it's certainly got it's charms. Let's not kid ourselves, we knew the combination of Green Day, Rob Cavallo and CLA was gonna produce some heat and it did. This is an amalgamation of everything Green Day has experimented with since the trilogy rolled into one and it makes the absolute best it can with those sounds. This album (while being produced by Rob Cavallo) doesn't really put me in mind of vintage Green Day and it's not really supposed to, this is clearly it's own thing. You can tell so much love was poured into these tracks, these guys sounded like they had a blast recording this and hey it paid off, it's a great set of cuts. Everything from the suzie Chapstick to Living In The 20s had me hooked in from the freaking start, loved this

8/10

strong valve
strong valve
strong valve
violet jay
strong valve
half verge
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😭

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lmnb and saviors???

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my 3 least favorites (not in order)
Bobby Sox
Father to a Son
Fancy Sauce

All 3 of these are still bangers tho this is a very consistent album

violet jay
half verge
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oh no yeah i would probably like it a lot more if i could actually uhhh read the lyrics

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spotify doesnt have most of the saviors lyrics yet lmao

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its probably on genius or something but 🤷

knotty crow
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man i’m loving strange days are here to stay

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someone said it sounds like stay the night and letterbomb had a child

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and it’s true

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but i think it’s a really cool song

half verge
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the verse sounds like that one panic at the disco song

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cant remember which

wooden matrix
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I love the “TIIIIIIIIMES” before the chorus

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the song always gets stuck in my head

subtle ravine
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No One Knows is definitely one of those😔

static flint
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that sums up the trilogy tbh

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there’s what

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like 50 songs?

eager swan
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My top 3 .
LMNB
Fancy sauce
Suzie

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I think even Billie said Look Ma is his favourite too

tiny plover
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But I gotta listen to it in full

static flint
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someone merged the snippets

violet jay
obsidian harbor
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No it’s an outtake from FOAM

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That was released as a bonus song on the Japanese release of Saviors

glacial topaz
opaque brook
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On the back of Japanese CD, it credits Butch Walker for producing the song. So it’s either left over from FOAM or they recorded it with Butch after FOAM was released, but before Rob Cavallo came on to do Saviors.

ornate zenith
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At this point it’s got the same production team I’m pretty sure and everything for the mastering or whatever, it’s a Saviors b-side

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Oh

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If it’s butch walker then that’s different

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Could also be an outtake from the songs between foam and saviors

subtle ravine
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We do know that originally Butch Walker was producing the "next Green Day album"

glacial topaz
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Faver? I hardly know her

static flint
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it can’t be an outtake if it leaked before the album and is on saviors😭

hearty solar
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People keep reuploading mine though 👹👹👹

static flint
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no

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it’s on saviors in japan

hearty solar
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It’s an outtake from FOAM, but a Saviors b-side.

hearty solar
static flint
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apparently it’s on all asian releases which is weird

hearty solar
static flint
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i thought favorite son was 21cb?

hearty solar
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well it’s on both

static flint
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yeah

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governator, too much too soon and shoplifter were the deluxe i thought

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ah okay no worries

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i was tripping bc i couldn’t remember it on there

wooden matrix
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i love shoplifter

static flint
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obviously take this with a grain of salt but this is interesting

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cuz that’s when it’s out in japan

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so

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maybe we get it on streaming then?

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yeah

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that could be right

strong valve
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I wouldn’t hold your breath on it

static flint
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either way we’ll get it

strong valve
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For sure

static flint
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but it’ll be interesting to see if greenday release it

strong valve
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Favorite Son was only released in Japan and on the rock against bush comp

hearty solar
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Fever in a 2024 party songs comp

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leaked

static flint
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send a link?

strong valve
hearty solar
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I’m fucking with you

static flint
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not you

static flint
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i’ve never seen that rock against bush thing

strong valve
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Oh.

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One sec

hearty solar
static flint
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u fucking with me or u being fr

hearty solar
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Being fr

strong valve
hearty solar
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This version

static flint
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LMAOO THAT COVER IS AMAZING

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favourite son does slap tho

strong valve
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I’ve got that cd actually

knotty crow
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coma city sort of reminds me of the static age

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the static age’s verses, that is

obsidian harbor
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It sounds like static age and panic song

plush warren
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God I am in love with this album

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Every song is fucking incredible

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Definitely worth all this wait

wintry blade
obsidian harbor
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I think it’s one of the best on the album

fervent heath
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1981 reminds me of monkey wrench + church on sunday + a little bit of back in the usa and revolution radio

warped sluice
knotty crow
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listened to saviors again to give it a more unbiased review and the album in general didn't hit like it did the first couple times

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really taking everything in more than previous listens i think the album is just simply "good"

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it's not outstanding

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living in the 20s, father to a son, fancy sauce, goodnight adeline, suzie chapstick are still great songs but wasn't really feeling everything else

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as much as the other times i've listened to the album

celest hawk
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Hard disagree, it’s perfect. But we can agree to disagree

knotty crow
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i don't regret being hyped for the album or anything in hindsight

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but

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idk it could have been better

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now that the "new album" novelty has worn off

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i think given the choice between saviors and something like revrad i'm gonna pick revrad every time

knotty crow
tired shale
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Wish the tones weren't so middle of the road, that's the one thing holding this album back

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Yeah, songs like 1981 and 20s could have used more distorted, louder guitars

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It's not bad, the tones still work but that's my preference

subtle ravine
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Louder guitars would've been bad imo

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RevRad suffers from that

tired shale
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Not louder in the mix, I meant just more abrasive

knotty crow
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listening to revrad right now and yeah it's true

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revrad sounds like loudness war all over again

tired shale
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Ew

knotty crow
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it's a wall of sound

tired shale
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Rev Rad would have been so much better with Rob

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They better just keep making albums with Rob and CLA for a few years lol

subtle ravine
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I personally think Saviors is really really solid

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Its not on my top 5 but it's really good

half verge
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yeah i wouldnt say its revolutionary or anything

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its just a really good album

subtle ravine
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It's what we should've had instead of FOAM

eager swan
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Im dumb about these things but is the album ratings for the charts out yet? I wana know how it's performing

brisk pumice
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Why does it matter, for a band that has such a huge discography where every album has a unique sound, how their work ranks in the end? Like, all albums are solid in their own ways— you can still appreciate Saviors without arguing that it’s in the “top 5”

plush warren
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The chart won’t come out until this Friday

deft violet
tired shale
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Saviors has some unforgettable melodies

knotty crow
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@worn gull

worn gull
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1981 is a banger but it is also to repetitive

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I kinda agree with saviors, but i think the lowest ill give it would be a 3

half verge
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why do people not like saviors wah

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the song

worn gull
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For me its to simple, and i don't like the chorus, as i mentioned is one of the many songs that are to repetitive

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Green day has not failed me, but the singles gave me hope that this would be the album that would beat revolution radio, i guess i was wrong

half verge
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this album is probably tied with revolution radio for my no. 2/3 album

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honestly i still dont know whether i like dookie enough for a no. 2 spot

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yes sacrilegious green day server i know

knotty crow
#

dookie is like my number 6

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so it doesn't matter

half verge
#

damn

#

bold take

worn gull
#

What would you rate all 14 albums? From favorite to least?

knotty crow
#

nimrod
american idiot
21cb
insomniac
revrad
warning
kerplunk
dookie
saviors
uno
39/smooth
tre
dos
father of all

half verge
#
  1. AI
    2/3. RevRad/Saviors
    2/3. RevRad/Saviors
  2. Dookie?
  3. 21st CB?
  4. Nimrod
  5. FOAM
  6. Warning

I haven't listened to the others enough to actually form a good ranking

knotty crow
#

warning under father of all is certainly a take

#

interesting

half verge
#

ehh id put them in the same rank-ish i think

#

there are a bunch of albums i cant really put over the other

#

but i know they belong together 🤷

worn gull
#

American idiot
Insomiac
21st cb
Dookie
Rev rad
Nimrod
Kerplunk
Saviors
Warning
Tre
Dos
Uno
Father of all
39/smooth

worn gull
#

Uno is way to basic and repetitive in a few songs

tired shale
#

Not putting FOAMF above Insomniac, Kerplunk and 39

keen pewter
#

I rate it a

worn gull
#

American Idiot
Dookie
21CB
Kerplunk
Nimrod
Insomniac
Warning
Revrad
Uno
Saviours
39/smooth
Dos
Tres
Father of all

pine jasper
#

I still haven't listened to Saviors aside from TADIKM, Dilemma, LMNB, and OEB

eager swan
#

No need

quiet berry
#

American idiot
Nimrod
Dookie
Insomniac
Saviors
21CB
Revolution Radio
Uno
Kerplunk
Warning
39/smooth
Tre
Father of all
Dos

terse orchid
#

Nimrod
American Idiot
Insomniac
Warning
Dookie
Kerplunk
Saviors
21CB
Tre
RevRad
Dos
39/Smooth
Uno
FOAM

terse orchid
slow crest
#

I love all of them

violet jay
#

My ranking from favorite to least

acoustic canopy
#

switch nimrod and 21cb and we got a deal

violet jay
#

No

fierce trout
acoustic canopy
#

what

violet jay
#

21st CB is way better

acoustic canopy
#

nuh uh

fierce trout
#

more like switch foamf and insomniac

violet jay
acoustic canopy
violet jay
#

Insomniac is good where it is

acoustic canopy
#

no

violet jay
#

Yes

acoustic canopy
#

second last is CRAZY

violet jay
#

It’s not that good there is maybe only 3 songs on their I like

#

Just take me putting nimrod from last to a higher ranking

acoustic canopy
#

you had nimrod last???

fierce trout
#

Insomniac is like dookie but better

violet jay
#

Yes

violet jay
acoustic canopy
#

💀💀

acoustic canopy
violet jay
#

Gonna do my OG Rank when I joined

terse orchid
#

Nimrod is like a perfect album

acoustic canopy
#

exactly

terse orchid
#

It’s my #1

acoustic canopy
#

same

fierce trout
acoustic canopy
#

currently at least

violet jay
#

My very first rank here

#

Compare to now nimrod got more love

acoustic canopy
acoustic canopy
#

like

#

really bad

terse orchid
#

How is FOAM so high

acoustic canopy
#

holy fuck

violet jay
acoustic canopy
#

another option: you improve your taste

but i guess your new ranking

violet jay
acoustic canopy
#

i know im not gonna argue

#

just comment

fierce trout
#

green day

acoustic canopy
#

greem day

violet jay
#

Gr33m D@y

terse orchid
#

Gweamn Deh

tiny plover
#

American Idiot
21st Century Breakdown
Dookie
Nimrod
Insomniac
Kerplunk
Warning
Revolution Radio
Stop, drop and roll
TRE
DOS
UNO
Money Money 2020 pt. 2
Father of all
39/smooth
Money Money 2020

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Saviors is somewhere around below RR - above kerplunk

#

Well saviors is more interesting than Insomniac tho

#

Ugh it's hard to rank, because recency bias and their albums are different and good for different reasons

#

But it's not better than Nimrod

terse orchid
#

STRANGE DAYS ARE HERE TO STAY HAS BEEN PLAYING IN MY HEAD FOR 2 DAYS STRAIGHT. It’s starting to legitimately bother me, it’s getting distracting. Fucking Green Day.

violet jay
wooden matrix
#

yea strange days has been in my head all morning

#

my dad listened to it and he fucks with it

devout brook
#

How we feeling bout dis one

fierce trout
#

Foam

subtle ravine
#

Yeah it's fucking mid as hell

wooden matrix
#

prob one of the weaker ones on the album imo

#

kind of fun though

fierce trout
#

There’s a reason it was just a bonus track

subtle ravine
#

I wouldn't call it bad but it's close lol

#

The first verse is good but it falls off after that

#

And it falls off pretty hard

wooden matrix
#

it’s stuck in my head for some reason but yeah

subtle ravine
#

That first verse is really catchy

#

But that's it

plush warren
#

I like the riff but that’s it

terse orchid
#

Yeah I do not really like it. Also the verse kind of gives me country vibes for some reason

plush warren
#

The chorus sucks 😭

subtle ravine
#

Yeah this song is honestly pretty bad lol

violet needle
#

Tbh ive been listening to saviors a lot…

#

It really works as an album and has a great flow

subtle ravine
wooden matrix
#

feverrr tonight

violet needle
#

Tmi think some songe dont really work all too well as standalones BUT in the album context they do

violet needle
#

The glow is good and most songs are short enough that the album never gets boring even during the slow songs

terse orchid
#

I still love Saviors even though I’ve overplayed the shit out of it, and I think it is way way way better than RevRad

violet needle
#

Its really good. Its definitely not green days best album but it hits that ‚accepting to have aged‘ kind if spot after ‚midlife crisis‘ (foamf) well and in tandem with the great producion & mix just works well

terse orchid
violet needle
#

Some cool lyrical moments, even though the lyrical repitition and the amount of times billie rhymes the same words with eachother again and again is a bit strange

jolly zealot
#

I think Fever is a fun one

subtle ravine
#

Fever might be pretty damn bad but at least it isn't Here Comes the Shock

wooden matrix
#

yea like rhyming crazy with crazy 3 times in a row

#

still love fancy sauce though

violet needle
plush warren
#

It sounds almost lifeless

violet needle
#

I think with foamf was the point where they wanted ti rejuvenate themselves forcefully

subtle ravine
terse orchid
subtle ravine
violet needle
terse orchid
#

Okay yeah I gotcha

violet needle
subtle ravine
#

Yeah oh my god

devout brook
#

Oh yeah slaps doe

subtle ravine
#

I hope Butch Walker doesn't work with these guys again oh my GOD

terse orchid
#

Oh Yeah is my least favorite Green Day song I lost all hope for the album when I heard it. It’s one of the most soulless songs I’ve ever heard.

violet needle
subtle ravine
#

I love FOAM but damn man I don't think he gets how Green Day is supposed to sound

devout brook
#

Father of all is the only song that sounds good

#

Great opener
But it goes downhill after that

terse orchid
subtle ravine
terse orchid
wooden matrix
#

foam title track chorus is good

subtle ravine
terse orchid
#

Valid

subtle ravine
#

And my third least favorite has just arrived in the form of Fever LMAO

terse orchid
#

I honestly think HCTS is better than Fever

devout brook
#

I thought fever would have a better chorus based on the snippets
But naw
Very boring

subtle ravine
#

Idk I think like

wooden matrix
#

same the chorus has potential

#

had*

devout brook
#

I do get
I gotta fever tonight stuck in my head

subtle ravine
#

I was really excited for a new Green Day when Here Comes the Shock was coming out and i couldn't believe how bad it was

#

I joined this server the day that song came out cuz I needed to talk about how much I disliked the song

devout brook
#

HERE COMES DA SHARK

terse orchid
devout brook
#

Worst part of the song tbh

subtle ravine
#

For real

#

I was excited for Damn Juvenile Delinquents but damn man after Fever I kinda don't wanna hear it

terse orchid
#

Wait what is Damn Juvenile Delinquents

#

A song?

subtle ravine
#

It was another song snippet that leaked along with the 8 second snippet of Fever

terse orchid
#

Oh shit I haven’t heard

subtle ravine
terse orchid
#

Seems mildly better than fever

#

Ig we will see

wooden matrix
#

yea it does

subtle ravine
#

I feel bad for Japanese fans who have to hear this trash after how good Fancy Sauce is

tired shale
subtle ravine
#

I got reminded of this and man now that we've heard Fever thank God we didn't get this holy shit

static flint
#

SIGN ME THE FUCK UP

wooden matrix
#

feverrr tonight

subtle ravine
#

What does this even mean LMAOOOOOOO

static flint
subtle ravine
#

I can't believe how ass this song is bro

static flint
#

i love it

subtle ravine
#

I wish I could lol

#

But now it sits as my third least favorite GD song

static flint
#

it reminds of old greenday ngl

#

just a simple track about being alone and getting blazed lmao

wooden matrix
#

it’s a pleasant listen tbh

#

at least it’s not grating

static flint
#

exactly

#

it’s fun

subtle ravine
#

That's my main problem with Here Comes the Shock

indigo spruce
#

Honestly most of the new material just feels like the longshot songs for me

#

Laid back, low energy rock n roll music without high ambitions but a chill vibe

terse orchid
#

I agree but only for certain songs

#

Like Corvette Summer

indigo spruce
#

Also definitely Suzie Chapstick

terse orchid
#

Yeah, but some of the songs also just scream Green Day to me. Especially Strange Days

violet needle
fierce trout
#

The most “classic green day” sounding songs from the album imo are:
TADIKM
LMNB
1981
Strange days
Dilemma

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But i like most of the slower stuff too

terse orchid
#

I keep forgetting how good Dilemma is until I hear it. I can see it being my favorite in the long run. I’m not good at music theory, but there’s something going on with the melody that they don’t normally do, and I love it.

fierce trout
#

Augmented chord ?

#

Idk I really like the bridge

terse orchid
# fierce trout Augmented chord ?

Sure let’s go with that. Idk I feel like it’s riddled with progressions that are like less straightforward than normal. It’s almost jazzy(?) even though that certainly isn’t the right word. Like I said I’m over my head.

wooden matrix
#

Yea dilemma bridge and solo slap

half verge
#

Is it just me or are the spotify lyrics for saviors still not up yet?

plush warren
#

The Apple Music aren’t either

slow crest
eager swan
#

After listening to Saviors once again front to back , I can finally confirm that it truly is one of the Albums of all time.
Billie sang the songs and played the guitar like a guitarist. Mike missed no notes and perfectly played the bass guitar like a bassist and Tre hit the drums with his drum sticks.
Overall and once again ,Saviors truly is one of the albums of all time.

knotty crow
#

bravo cavallo

oblique sky
#

I hope it reflects in sale numbers as well

#

Last I saw sub reddit an estimate of 40-50 k opening week was put forth making on par with FOAM 😩

ornate zenith
#

One par with foam is still peaking at I think #2 on Billboard 200

#

Idgaf really how much thing sell though I just think it would be cool for Green Day to be active in pop culture again in a way that isn't just AI and Dookie memories

sacred bone
#

tbh I think foamf sales wouldnt have taken a huge hit week one.

deft violet
worn gull
#

37 songs too many

#

At least it's an odd number so there's a song in the exact middle of it: Stray Heart

static flint
#

and the otis big mixes

worn gull
#

Aren't those just the same songs?

deft violet
# worn gull 37 songs too many

Imagine saying that when Stay the Night, Nuclear Family, Let Yourself Go, Rusty James, Stop When the Red Lights Flash, Lazy Bones, X-Kid and 99 Revolutions exist

static flint
worn gull
#

It's a different mix, but they're the same exact tracks

static flint
#

some of them have lyric changes too

subtle ravine
#

21 Guns was huge

deft violet
#

Huge shit amirite

eager swan
#

Livin' in the 20'z reminds me of AI and 21stcbd

worn gull
#

We all die young someday

wooden matrix
#

we all die young and watch it slip away

deft violet
#

Tumbling down tumbling down 🎶🎶🎶

eager swan
deft violet
#

Yeah

brisk pumice
#

Y’all if you only got one vinyl, this is your sign to get two; any variant does it

#

The vinyl booklet is a HUGE poster

#

I mean, bigger than what you got at the listening party

#

I was expecting the back of it where the lyrics are to have more of the zine’s design but it’s a bit bland. If you want to have the lyrics, get a second one and you get a poster!!!!

#

Also

last glen
#

Bea utiful

celest hawk
#

Galaxy?

terse orchid
#

Do you guys think the general consensus is that Saviors is better or worse than RR

deft violet
#

Since a lot of younger fans had RevRad as their first album release the concensus would be RevRad better.

#

I like Saviors way more but I'm in the minority

wooden matrix
#

down with the moral majority

ornate zenith
#

I also like it way more

#

I don't think there is anything close to a consensus on Saviors vs. RevRad

#

Gonna have to wait until the next album cycle for a less biased one probably

#

Critical consenus even has them basically even with each other

#

Which I can respect

#

Both are 72/100 on metacritic

#

Some critics rating Saviors higher and vice versa so it averages out to the same. Metacritic is the aggregate score like rotten tomatoes so

#

However not everyone has published reviews on Saviors yet

#

So time will still tell

terse orchid
deft violet
#

RevRad could use some 2min fast songs

ornate zenith
#

Also not young enough to have RevRad as my first album, that was 21CB, but RevRad got me back into the band after not listening to them for years and I think Saviors smokes it

terse orchid
#

RevRad could also use cleaner vocals

#

The mixing is also terrible

deft violet
#

I am a Green Day fanboy since 2009 and only put them aside in 2017 a little after RevRad. Then listened to FOA and though "Damn this is it eh". Then TADIKM dropped in october and I'm a fanboy again.

#

Saviors is the most "special" GD album since 21CB for me.

ornate zenith
#

Totally same here

#

Haven't felt like an album release was this special since I was 11, which says a lot because my music world was obviously tiny then

#

Haven't gotten tired of any of it since friday

deft violet
#

Yep totally

strong valve
#

Finally framed and going on my wall

ornate zenith
#

Mine is supposed to come today but I haven't checked the mail room in my apartment building

strong valve
#

Mine is a signed copy from rough trade nyc . Legit needed to frame it

ornate zenith
#

Oh shit yeah

strong valve
#

Like there was no way i wasn’t framing that

deft violet
#

I regret giving away my CD collection so much

#

I had tons of singles

ornate zenith
#

I miss CD singles with unique art. I have the know your enemy single and I cherished that thing

deft violet
#

Yeah, even Oh Love and Let Yourself Go were cool

terse orchid
strong valve
#

I was going through my stuff earlier and found this old bootleg that I forgot I had

#

Iirc I bought it in a record store in Montana

deft violet
#

Bootlegs truly is a lost art

quiet warren
#

Saviors on the front page of the New York Times

#

hell yeah

deft violet
#

@ornate zenith Johnny my man can we have a Cigarettes and Valentines channel so I can ramble on like a madman ?

deft violet
#

It's okay I can talk about C&V here

#

In the revent interview when asked about C&V songs that we heard Billie Joe directly talked about Homecoming being made of different C&V songs. That's a new info that we never heard, I think it's safe to assume that we at least partly heard everything one way or another. I believe the b-sides CD with 16 songs is the whole Cigarettes and Valentines tracklist minus Letterbomb (Clusterbomb) and any other track that habe been reworked into American Idiot.

#

But since The Pedestrian and Broadway are there I wonder if we can safely assume that songs from Money Money 2020 were reworked C&V songs too.

#

Roshambo is a strong possibility as it is the most complete song on the album and if you remove any odities could fit a Warning era GD album. Plus the lyrics fit.

#

If we get some AI outtakes for the 20th anniversary I'm hoping for those in that order:

  1. Cigarettes and Valentines
  2. Original Roshambo
  3. Original Horseshoes and Handgrenades
  4. Original The Pedestrian
  5. Clusterbomb (Letterbomb demo)
#

I think so much has been reused that releasing C&V is impossible sadly. It will always be some fanmade approximation

#

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

tired shale
#

Cool info, it would still be good to hear those original demos. Don't know why having the songs reworked should neglect having a proper release

#

You forgot Favorite Son and Too Much Too Soon, pretty sure those were confirmed

deft violet
#

Oh I did not forgot, they were in the b-sides album

#
  1. Too Much Too Soon
  2. Shoplifter
  3. Governator (I'll be Back)
  4. Horseshoes and Handgrenades
  5. The Pedestrian
  6. Too Young
  7. Lights Out
  8. Lately (One More Year)
  9. Cigarettes and Valentines
  10. End of the World
  11. Walk Away
  12. Broadway
  13. Waste Away
  14. Dropout
  15. 19th Nervous Breakdown
  16. Favorite Son

Add to that Clusterbomb, maybe some early version of Whatsername and/or WMUWSE, stuff that were repurposed into Homecoming, and you've got C&V hidden somewhere in there.

#

Here's my favorite playlist

tired shale
#

I don't think Governator was on there cause of some timeline issues

#

Because of Arnold being elected governor in October 2003, the song couldn't have been made until after that

deft violet
#

You're right he announced his running in august apparently

#

Hmm

tired shale
#

So that prob erases that

strong valve
deft violet
#

back

#

I would kill to get my hands on that cd

strong valve
#

Yeah the fact that he has it gives me hope

weak lily
#

Kind of annoyed how 1234 go numbered them

#

This ain’t mine it’s from discogs

#

But it’s literally just on a hype sticker

#

Stamp it on the jacket wtf

buoyant skiff
#

my preorder fiiinally shipped

jolly zealot
jolly zealot
celest hawk
worn gull
subtle ravine
#

I expected it and I'm still sad about it

worn gull
#

Green Day's music just isnt for him man

#

then again his Green Day tier list is so damn weird so

#

let the record show he put albumg and the trilogy both on the C tier

Form your own opinions guys

tired shale
last glen
#

3/10 called it

#

what a melon

#

now just waiting for all the "meh its just AIGHT" posts

rich haven
#

the end of the review has nothing to do with the album but just about political talk - like all those bad maga reviews ;D

#

and he gave a 5/10 to one more time? wat

#

be consistent at least :D

keen pewter
rich haven
#

not really

keen pewter
#

all he said was that Billie’s political lyrics don’t really make much sense

#

didn’t knock his actual politics or anything

#

the Maga reviews are saying he’s stupid and a woke libtard or whatever

rich haven
#

Billie never wrote "clearly" about politics, he's not RATM

#

I don't know why he's expecting RATM out of Green Day

#

that's my problem, judge the album on the music instead of just how "political" lyrics should be

#

like he said "oh it's not that pointed" well yeah it's not RATM

#

even American Idiot wasn't that straight

#

but anyway, saviors clears one more time, easily

#

so rating it less, think3D

#

but it's just his opinion anyway so

worn gull
rich haven
#

but at this point he's mostly an hip-hop reviewers

#

just look at him rating most hip-hop new albums more than 7/10 :D

#

when those records are the most un-imaginative things ever (and I like a lot of hip hop)

worn gull
#

never trust a man who gave sexyy red a positive review

rich haven
#

yeah at this point he's just an hip-hop head trying to get views there

keen pewter
#

I don’t agree with any of that at all

#

I’ve seen him rate several hip hop albums terrible scores

violet jay
#

De La Soul some peak hip hop

tired shale
#

True

violet jay
#

R.I.P Trugoy the Dove

fierce trout
#

I think he’s a good guy I just don’t like his reviews

rich haven
#

Like I said I like hip hop myself

#

And some albums he rated 7/10 when they are the most bland hip-hop

#

I dunno

#

But I guess to each their own

#

Can’t please everyone :>

sacred bone
#

I love how bobby sox sounds live..... i dont know if i could handle that and coming clean in the same setlist though........

weak lily
#

Got my number

#

742

#

Ink is smeared

obsidian harbor
#

Glad everyone knows he’s just gonna hate anything Green Day

#

He really said “strange days are here to stay has all the makings of a Green Day classic on the intro” dawg that part is literally just basket case

#

He just wants basket case 2 I think

#

Although I do agree on the criticisms given on the “everyone’s a victim” line

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah he hates Green Day

worn gull
#

For those wondering where Dos and Tre are theyre basically interchangeable with Uno

#

wait

#

where would he rank Saviors then

#

D row?

obsidian harbor
#

Idek

deft violet
obsidian harbor
#

I’m convinced if dookie came out today he would say it’s ass

wraith pine
brisk pumice
#

Also, we saw how much of a difference marketing made

#

I’m not saying it’s the only reason why it’s good but if they released that many father of all vinyl variants you’d have everyone pre-ordering them like crazy

#

They just have to portray it as an album worth buying/liking

limber shore
#

3/10 from fantano lmao

#

idk what i was expecting

#

oh well

#

time to listen again

limber shore
worn gull
#

3/10 is rough

#

Id say a 5-6 is fair

#

Fantano clearly only likes features, trap beats and Swedish songwriters

plush warren
#

Im pissed too but honestly I didn’t expect anything over a 4

#

And also he’s just one guy on the internet at the end of the day

#

I don’t even credit his opinion on them bc he thinks the trilogy is better than American idiot

ornate zenith
#

Mike’s backing vocals on this album are so good

#

Dude seriously shines on this one

dim barn
#

I LOVE SAVIORS 😄

dim barn
worn gull
#

i consider AI and Dookie to be a 10/10 and they smash this

#

giving it a 9 or a 10 is disrespectful to those albums for me haha

ornate zenith
#

IMO you shouldn’t be getting your opinions from someone else but critics are great for getting an outside perspective to make you a better listener on your own. For example Pitchfork gave American Idiot a 7.2 and FOAM and 6.7. Might sound crazy but it’s valuable to read/hear someone explain why they think FOAM is almost as good as AI

dim barn
#

i love FOAM

#

imho

#

FOAM was tre cool at his best

#

I LOVED IT!!!

dim barn
worn gull
#

Tre is the most consistent of the 3 members

#

imo

dim barn
worn gull
#

yeah

wooden matrix
dim barn
#

fr

#

THE DURMMING WA EHWJL;'

wooden matrix
dim barn
#

i loved the drumming in the foam title track

#

brilliant stuff

wooden matrix
#

yeah and then the CHORUS

#

literally amazing

weak lily
#

I forget what song is my least fav

wooden matrix
#

my least fav was probably junkies on a high

weak lily
#

No on saviors

wooden matrix
#

oh right. probably bobby sox for me

weak lily
#

I think 1981 or living in the 20\s

#

They aren’t badd

#

But just different than the other album

#

I like saviors it just doesn’t blow me away

#

But not a lot of albums do

#

Bobby Sox is probably the best song on there

subtle ravine
#

I personally think that I don't really need Green Day to blow me away because they have done so already

#

I'm happy with a really good album at this point, especially at the point they're at

weak lily
#

But Green Day is just music i put on when I’m in the mood for them

wooden matrix
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yea I appreciate its consistency

subtle ravine
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Dude the instrumental carries Coma City so hard like damn Billie's lyrics and vocals on that song may not be the best but GOD DAMN Tre and Mike are giving it their all and it makes the song so good

wooden matrix
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that instrumental is absolute fire

worn gull
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Cum city

obsidian harbor
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I don’t know why this is so funny to just listen

plush warren
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Damn Bobby Sox has grown so much on me

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I thought it was okay first listen but it’s great now

eager swan
weak lily
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On the album

violet jay
fierce trout
violet jay
fierce trout
weak lily
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Did anyone notice the kid has weird fingers

knotty crow
obsidian harbor
sacred bone
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They sound really good at the irving show. Some cool deepcuts. Always love 2000 light years. Bobby sox was great hope to see them play it more.

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Billie was screaming for part of brain stew and i would love to hear him scream more live. Sounds really good

slow crest
forest crag
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GOT A HQ VERSION OF FEVER

wooden matrix
forest crag
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its a drive link

keen pewter
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it’s on YouTube

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I sent it earlier

forest crag
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uh lmao

hearty solar
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Not allowed to share files of copyrighted songs anyway

forest crag
hearty solar
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YouTube is probably allowed though since it’s on YouTube

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Not sure

keen pewter
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I’m 90% sure YouTube is fine

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especially bc it’s not a leak

ornate zenith
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YouTube is fine, if it’s not fine YouTube will copyright strike it

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The problem is using this server to host or distribute the files

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Because copyright

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YouTube link is YouTube hosting it

subtle ravine
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What do you guys think of the song?

wooden matrix
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I think it’s fun

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prob one of the weaker ones on saviors for me but it’s cool

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kind of a vibe

ornate zenith
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Fever? If it weren’t a bonus track it would easily be the worst for me

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Not a fan

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Feels like Green Day doing bro country

knotty crow
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it absolutely sounds like a song that would be AI generated

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not a fan of it at all

subtle ravine
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I really don't like the song personally lol

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It has become my third least favorite GD song fr lol

bronze swan
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I don’t mind Fever

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It reminds me of The Cars

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I think you guys are overreacting

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It’s not that bad

keen pewter
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Fever might be the worst Green Day song

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at least here comes the shock has energy with it

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all Fever has is

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I got a fever tonight🧍‍♂️

subtle ravine
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The instrumentation is a mess in that song and I don't think it sounds that great

worn gull
jolly zealot
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Am I the only one who likes Fever

silk willow
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every saviors item i own so far

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another vinyl is coming in the mail tmrw

celest hawk
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Galaxy Pink is 🔥🔥🔥

indigo spruce
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It's hand claps all over again 😭

eager swan
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Here cums the shock

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Man i forgot that this song even existed

worn gull
# heady escarp Why

idk hey. guess I'm not a fan of the screaming and the basic lyrics in the chorus

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the verses aint bad.

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catchy tune

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esp at the beginning

tiny plover
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Someone said they first heard it that way

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And it ruined the song for me 😭

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I can't hear it the right way anymore and it may be my fave from the album

azure helm
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loving the photo for the vinyl poster and cd inside cover

static flint
slow crest
eager swan
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I'm glad they didn't include that in the album

worn gull
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This guy has interesting takes

ornate zenith
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Such a dumb clickbait thumbnail for a video supposedly about a whole album, not just one song

obsidian harbor
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It’s also crazy if that’s the one takeaway from the album

wooden matrix
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^^

last glen
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One song with a riff that's similar to So What = whole album ruined!!!!