Saviors Discussion

[brisk pumice]

Yeah that

[jolly zealot]

i disagree

[brisk pumice]

That’s just how I hear it I guess

Maybe I need to watch the Godfather😂

[jolly zealot]

yeah everyone likes things differently

[brisk pumice]

mhmm

[jolly zealot]

like personally I love Nightlife

[brisk pumice]

I enjoy it too

Not my fave song but it’s a vibe

[subtle ravine]

It's way better than those two imo

[deft violet]

Take the Money and Crawl is a banger my man, while OEB is boring as fuck

[deft violet]

Is this a Barbie reference I see

[rancid arch]

1981 is pretty good, OEB is a bit meh.

[obsidian harbor]

OEB has the potential to be really good

[celest hawk]

Okay so I’m in love with Dilemma. Video is so great, it’s so raw and honest. I got chills watching it. CHILLS 🥶

[eager swan]

Father to Son next single, I'm sure of it

[deft violet]

I hope that they manage to make OEB sound meaner and thicker. The leak sounds way too similar to FOAM. Add some distorsion and screams and you've got a winner.

[swift flare]

my ranking of the songs are:

1. Dilemma
2. Look Ma
3. American Dream

American Dream is good, but there are a few weird lyrics that don't work well

Look Ma is just a fun Ramones song

but Dilemma feels like a very personal and meaningful song

[deft violet]

Same, I don't really know how to feel about American Dream. It's not bad but quite slow and lacks something. It's like a stripped down 21stCB 5min song

[bold relic]

Dilemma is so good

sits right next to another dilemma i listened to

the chorus reminds me of weezer - hero which i love

[obsidian harbor]

Well it will because the demo of OEB was from before they started recording for saviors

[eager swan]

Dilemma is very good but There's just something about LMNB that makes me wana come back and listen to it on repeat. Idk, maybe I love the chorus or the raw speed energy.

[indigo spruce]

Yeah it's just like a constant stream of energy

[celest hawk]

Which one is it supposed to be? I saw someone on the subreddit saying they think they found Coma City in the teasers

[jolly zealot]

im worried they didnt rework it and its the exact same

[knotty crow]

for some reason i instantly thought of coma city when hearing this

but yeah there's no way of knowing until it's released

just sounds like it would fit

[keen pewter]

the leak was produced by Butch Walker, and he’s not credited for anything on the album. At the very least the production is different

[jolly zealot]

That's good, thanks

[sacred bone]

Where is the oeb leak available?

[lofty yacht]

What Jar said

[sacred bone]

Listening to it now. the opening riff reminds me of another non green day song but cant figure out what.

ty

Outside of the riff being so close to that song i really like it. Saviors so far is up with 21cb on favorite post american idiot albums. Waiting on more songs to see what wins out.

[abstract grove]

I still think OEB sounds better than anything on father of all. Everyone saying it sounds like father of all production.. I’m just not hearing it. Billie’s voice doesn’t have that terrible effect on it. There is a piano in the opening. It doesn’t sound like father of all songs at all to me. I do hope they reworked it a little, but to me, it was a really good song.

[hallow creek]

It’s not father of all production because it was recorded after that album and the version that’s out there is not what is on the album

[obsidian harbor]

Fr

It’s more reminiscent of father of all in production so it’ll likely change to fit saviors

[eager swan]

I wonder what they changed.
I know songs structure remains the same, maybe they did it Covallo's style

[deft violet]

Yeah same length means same song basically. Like I said earlier, all I hope for is more distorsion, louder drum and more "screaming". It's an angry song, let the production reflect that.

Maybe add some cool little bass riffs here and there

[eager swan]

Definitely need to change the drums.. yeah

[last glen]

Sold Out?

[ornate zenith]

Must be

Those limited vinyl editions have been gradually selling out

[obsidian harbor]

Me neither

[knotty crow]

i don't think it's out yet

looking online it says you can pre-order the magazine

and it won't ship until january

i can't find any rips of the article online

[brisk pumice]

I’m gonna look for the mag on Tuesday and I’ll scan it if I find it

[brisk pumice]

Nevermind

I thought it was out wtf

[brisk pumice]

Crazy right? I bet the japanese one is gone

[ornate zenith]

7350 units, not too crazy

[brisk pumice]

I meann they keep making more “limited editions” tbh

[fierce trout]

New interview? https://youtu.be/5GATbtdvJos?si=N4DptwwueZ7Sn-1U

Billie Joe said they’re going to be playing more songs off Dookie and AI in the setlist

[worn gull]

So no changes then?

[plush warren]

He probably meant more deeper cuts from those albums, which is exciting

[worn gull]

oh that'd be great

[sacred bone]

#greenday-chat message

this post has my setlist predictions based on comparing historical setlists (I took the average setlist from 2021-2023). I now think the setlist will be a few songs longer. Curious what the predictions on deep cuts are. Outside of she im not sure what.

[worn gull]

can't wait to see them play Sassafras Roots live

[sacred bone]

I feel like thats too much of a deep cut.

[keen pewter]

Here's my prediction of what we might see on this tour:

1.) American Idiot
2.) Jesus of Suburbia
3.) Holiday
4.) Boulevard of Broken Dreams
5.) The American Dream is Killing Me
6.) Look Ma, No Brains!
7.) Letterbomb
8.) Welcome To Paradise
9.) Longview
10.) Chump
11.) Burnout
12.) When I Come Around
13.) Hitchin a Ride
14.) Minority
15.) Are We The Waiting
16.) St. Jimmy
17.) Knowledge
18.) Basket Case
19.) She
20.) Dilemma
21.) Wake Me Up When September Ends
22.) Homecoming
23.) Whatsername
ENCORE:
24.) 21 Guns (Acoustic)
25.) Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

[sacred bone]

Does green day normally do an encore?

[fierce trout]

Yeah

[fierce trout]

This would be cool

For the most part

Hopefully they cut king for a day to have room for more songs

[sacred bone]

When I looked there was none for hella mega but that was a weird tour.

https://youtu.be/oTN0v3FlDKA?feature=shared they played all of dookie in 41 minutes recently. That does make the theory of them playing that and all of AI seem more likely. I dont think that will be the case but it would be awesome

[plush warren]

Would be very happy with this

[fierce trout]

this doesnt have brain stew and im pretty sure they wouldnt skip brain stew

[keen pewter]

I was considering doing Brain Stew instead of AWTW

but the fact that they skipped Brain Stew for the entire RevRad tour made me forget about it

[fierce trout]

ohh

i hope its finally time to retire know your enemy

i hope they got at least 1 pre dookie song

[sacred bone]

im guessing knowledge

[fierce trout]

BESIDES knowledge

this was the setlist when i saw them in 2017 and it was pretty good

[sacred bone]

would love 2000 light years away

[fierce trout]

when i saw them in 2010 they brought a whole crowd of people on stage from the seats to dance on stage during 2000 light years away

[sacred bone]

Im not sure on if they will do an encore. they havent in years but did for years.

[fierce trout]

i mean they technically did during hella mega but the encore was just good riddance

[sacred bone]

It didnt show on the setlist website i looked on.

[fierce trout]

they didnt at festivals

because they were festivals

[sacred bone]

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/green-day/2021/citi-field-queens-ny-238f042b.html

[fierce trout]

I guess just the couple shows I found listed good riddance as an encore

[sacred bone]

seems like european side had encores

[worn gull]

Chump after Longview? Isn't it supposed to transition into Longview?

[keen pewter]

LOL ur 100% right I fucked it up

[bold relic]

no insomniac

i want this tour to have a setlist that while focused on dookie, AI and saviors have the song from every other albums

no way that gonna happened

[worn gull]

Challenge accepted

The Comprehensive Green Day Setlist 2024:

1. American Idiot
2. Holiday
3. Look Ma, No Brains!
4. Basket Case
5. Welcome to Paradise
6. Stuck With Me
7. Sassafras Roots
8. 2000 Light Years Away
9. Who Wrote Holden Caulfield?
10. Going to Pasalacqua
11. Stray Heart
12. 409 in Your Coffeemaker
13. Stuart & the Ave.
14. Brain Stew/Jaded
15. Hitchin a Ride
16. King for a Day
17. Minority
18. East Jesus Nowhere
19. Paper Lanterns
20. Nuclear Family
21. Waiting
22. Nice Guys Finish Last
23. Let Yourself Go
24. Dilemma
25. Missing You
26. Bang Bang
27. Forever Now
28. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

Any comments?

[eager swan]

You are missing American dream is killing me and fancy sauce and coma city and Goodnight Adeline and father to a son and saviors and Bobby sox and Suzie chapstick and 1981 and one eyed bastard and dilemma and Corvette summer and Strange days are here to stay

[brisk pumice]

Woah I’d love JOS second that’d be wild

I REALLY want Novocaine/She’s a Rebel but it probs wont make the cut

Dilemma over Novocaine anyway

[brisk pumice]

This is wild, I doubt they’ll throw in any trilogy songs but that would be incredible

Even if it was one song and they rolled a dice for it or something every night so all concerts got a unique live song

[worn gull]

That sounds like every song on Saviors

[worn gull]

I made another one

1. American Idiot
2. Holiday
3. Boulevard of Broken Dreams
4. Basket Case
5. Welcome to Paradise
6. Stuck With Me
7. Hitchin a Ride
8. King for a Day
9. The American Dream is Killing Me
10. Look Ma, No Brains!
11. Nuclear Family
12. A Little Boy Named Train
13. Brain Stew/Jaded
14. 2000 Light Years Away
15. 409 in Your Coffeemaker
16. 16
17. 86
18. 80
19. 1981
20. Sassafras Roots
21. Warning
22. Stray Heart
23. Peacemaker
24. Forever Now
25. Bang Bang
26. Jesus of Suburbia
27. She
28. Minority
29. Dilemma
30. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

This time, I made sure to have a nice balance between every album, with an average of 2 per album except 4 for and

[worn gull]

My main takeaway about this new album so far based on the singles I've heard is that Green Day is just going back to making good music this time around and I love it.

No gimmicks or sound changes, no big ambitions, none of that "rock is dead" attitude that made the last album so unbearable; Saviors sounds like the band going back to basics and simply focusing on making good music this time around.

I'd also argue that this is probably the most normal album they'll put out since Warning. It's not a rock opera, part of a trilogy, nor is it an album trying out a new sound. It really does sound like Green Day just being themselves again for the first time in so long

Like part of me feels like this album will be a spiritual successor to that four-album streak that made me love this band so much in the first place, from Dookie to Warning; just a collection of songs that explore different thoughts and experiences in the band members' lives (and also bits of angst in there too lol)

But at the same time it really does feel like it's gonna be a 30th anniversary album in the sense that it sounds like it'll be a hybrid of the many eras the band's had thus far, from the fast tempos and angst of their 90s stuff to the rock opera sounds of AI and 21CB (also hearing rumors that songs like OEB will continue that FOAMF garage rock sound and even if it doesnt I won't be surprised if some of the songs on this album sound like FOAMF leftovers too but refined)

Also I feel like the production and mixing on these singles don't get that much talk which is crazy because these are some of the roughest sounding mainstream rock band singles I've heard in so long and I love it. I love the new Blink182 and Foo Fighters albums but imo I had problems with how their mixing sounded too clean and polished. So glad this new Green Day album isnt being a part of that trend. It sounds like the most raw album they've put out post-AI that the fact that this is a 2024 rock album and not 2005 is insane

TL;DR - I see this album being to Green Day what Death Magnetic was to Metallica---just a fun and simple back to basics album that fans like me will definitely enjoy well enough that we can forgive both bands for the monstrosities they put out right before this one

Until the next Green Day album sounds like AJR AND WE START FROM SCRATCH ALL OVER AGAIN AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[tiny plover]

Green Day album 15 will be experiemental mumble rap/Black metal mash

[bold relic]

this is more of a "eras tour" setlist but green day edition

[bold relic]

imagine billie said the name of the number songs one after another

[worn gull]

but that was more of a concept album to me if anything and also it had Forever Now lol

[tiny plover]

I feel like Saviors might be one too very loosely

But yeah somewhere now and forever now gave it that vibe

[fierce trout]

https://youtu.be/HUwwxzCVj-U?si=WqhEQ3tn93mnMdLk new interview?

It seems like they kinda know how poorly received foamf was

Like they say in the interview that they put out TADIKM first to show people “we’re back”

[sacred bone]

Theres a video of them play all of American Idiot in an hour and 3 min. (with some short interview bits) Theres a few of them playing through dookie in 40 minutes. (some of the dookie ones are within the past year)

If they do a 2 or 2 and a half hour set they could fit in all of both albums, I still dont think this is a likely setlist but it would be awesome. Guessing that setlist would have 1-3 from saviors, good riddance and 1-3 other songs.

Its a 4 hour concert from what i can tell.

[fierce trout]

I doubt it but that would be awesome

[sacred bone]

I dont think it will happen but i saw one post about it on here and have now been thinking about it all day

[obsidian harbor]

It would be but also would be kinda boring a little ways into American idiot

[ornate zenith]

I'll be honest I do not want that

Because it would probably mean the whole set is just those two albums

Plus a few saviors songs

I mean, it would be cool, I'd just rather hear a few songs from other albums too

[fierce trout]

Do you think maybe it’s because the interviewers are typically not like huge Green Day fans other than knowing the hits

That’s the vibe I’ve kinda gotten

Like the interviewers probably don’t really know what specific questions to ask

[sacred bone]

one called good riddance "time of your life" that one was particualy awkward

[plush warren]

Did you see the one with 1972 written above

I thought that was cool

[worn gull]

What's an "eras tour"?

[worn gull]

lol how

[plush warren]

That was a great interview

[jolly zealot]

bro r u serious

[ornate zenith]

Taylor Swift

[subtle ravine]

This interview got me even more excited for the album

They are so confident with this one

I don't remember seeing this many interviews for Father of All, and when there were they would talk about Hella Mega and barely mention the album

[tiny plover]

interesting so ADIKM was written when they were writing FOAM

5 or 4 years ago Billie said

when the interviewer asked about 1972, I was wishing for a question about C&V for new info, as I am such a nerd

yeah. Maybe the album had a concept of some sort at first

that turned into something else apparently

[subtle ravine]

That's exciting

I love 1981 so

I hope Coma City lives up to it

I really think this album will be something special, man

I really think Rob gets the best of the band

I'm so glad he's working with them again

Yeah

I'm sure Rob Cavallo would not have let Teenage Teenager on the album LOL

I think Butch Walker was just a terrible fit for the band

I get that Billie wanted something different

But Walker wasn't the best choice

Also, I love that you can tell that it was a fan who interviewed them

On the new interview

It's a great read

[obsidian harbor]

I could never be an interviewer because I have too many small questions

[subtle ravine]

Oh same

I would have so so many things to ask them lol

[obsidian harbor]

Not even just for Green Day I mean in general

I’d ask Billie where his little noises went since he doesn’t do them on the album as much

[subtle ravine]

That's true

I think that stopped in Warning, right?

He still does them sometimes but I think they stopped being prevalent on Warning

[obsidian harbor]

I’m trying to remember

Idk if that counts imma be real

I think it surprisingly added a lot to the songs

Made it feel closer to live

[subtle ravine]

I know one or two songs on Love Is For Losers have them

Can't recall which

[worn gull]

Green Day The Eras Tour confirmed???

Ok but like if there's one rock band that could definitely pull off their own Eras tour, it's Green Day. All their past album eras feel so distinct from each other that I'd love it if they'd have a tour that just combines everything (yes including their super old 90s stuff)

[deft violet]

I wonder id they have off-limit questions for the interview. Like if the interviewer asks "Will you release songs from Cigarettes and Valentines for American Idiot anniversary ?" They go "Nope, cut that one. Not answering."

Or Tré would just answer with a joke as a fuck you

[eager swan]

Who said that? And why have he/she heard the album already

[worn gull]

@eager swan

And also its probably exclusive early access ngl

[eager swan]

I hope coma city sounds like Look ma no brains!!

[bold relic]

2000 to 16 to 86 to 80 to 1981

i think its funny

[worn gull]

👍

[brisk pumice]

Seeeee I knew there’s more to the title track

[brisk pumice]

IVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE DAY ONE OF THIS ROLLOUT😤

[brisk pumice]

Guys, I swear I read ain interview (not the Italian one) that went into a bit of detail as to what songs will be about rather than how they'll sound where I read that Bobby Sox is about a date in a graveyard? I can't seem to find it nor remember where I read it

[lofty yacht]

Maybe you should spoiler this

Please

[eager swan]

Ok i deleted

Don't know to to put spoiler tag

[lofty yacht]

No

It's just like ya know

Some people here want to go into the record without spoilers

[slow crest]

Holy shit they did not rest once during 2020

The network album, no fun mondays, and they were writing this album

Billies workin non stop lol

[ornate zenith]

Subreddit mentioned

@keen pewter

[keen pewter]

YOOOOOO

[lofty yacht]

OMGGGGG

[keen pewter]

years of hard work have paid off

[ornate zenith]

Tre submit drums for 409 pls

[obsidian harbor]

So many mentions of death in saviors

Seems to be a running theme

[tiny plover]

I saw a nightmare where Billie said in an interview that the AI demos and outtakes would be released for it's 30th anniversary

[obsidian harbor]

How is that a nightmare

[ornate zenith]

Probably because it’s 10 years from now

[deft violet]

Nah if they want to get this out it's now or never. They don't have 10 more years on the spotlight.

[ornate zenith]

Fuck it, 30 year anniversary album today

[ornate zenith]

Falling out of the spotlight is the perfect time to do an anniversary edition

You don't fall back on the old shit when you're still popular

[brisk pumice]

welcome to my nightmares

[tiny plover]

Because I have been waiting for so long

And that would be another 10 years of C&V discussions that lead nowhere

But I can wait tho

If they empty the warning bowels

A weird way of describing it

[tiny plover]

And I didn't realize I just did a waiting reference

[ornate zenith]

That's why they do it at anniveraries like 25-30 years

40

Hence nimrod, insomniac and dookie all getting them

I hope they don't

Save it for a bigger anniverary, all these special releases are getting too close together

Makes it not special anymore

Crazy they skipped 25 for Dookie

Dookie and AI are the albums I'd expect 25th, 40th anniversaries and beyond to all get special editions

[deft violet]

I see where you are coming from but it would be weird to promote AI's 20th for the tour and not release anything related to it.

Man I just want a studio version of C&V let me hope 🥲

[pulsar egret]

They should release dookie on a really obscure form of media

For the next anniversary

[ornate zenith]

Dookie 40th anniversary phonograph cylinder

[pulsar egret]

You read my mind

[obsidian harbor]

Apple Music has constantly been listing dookie 30 as coming out in 2019 so I wouldn’t be surprised if they initially wanted to do a 25th and it got pushed back for whatever reason

But we’re definitely not getting anything for American idiot 20, maybe some merch, but the rerelease will probably be 25 or 30 (just to match with dookie maybe)

Fr

[obsidian harbor]

Also iirc it was labeled as 2019 on Spotify for the first bit but later was corrected

[deft violet]

TIL !

[keen pewter]

well tbf they didn’t start doing anniversary editions until the old albums were 25

that’s when they started dipping their toes in the capitalist anniversary edition pool

[ornate zenith]

Can’t wait for Saviors 0th anniversary edition next month

[sacred bone]

i think AI 20 will happen because otherwise Dookie 30 would have been in 2024 for the actual anniveresry. I get dookie 30 not being q1 or maybe even q2 because of saviors but q3 or q4 wouldnt affect it. Im predicting AI 20 in q3 or 4.

[ornate zenith]

Anniversary album overload

[plush warren]

They pushed dookie 30 early bc of saviors im pretty sure

[obsidian harbor]

Dawg they did it in 2023 because they have a whole new album in 2024 not because they’re doing anniversary stuff in 2024

They probably didn’t do it in Q3 or Q4 because that would also coincide with the tour

If they got an album Q1 with promotion for their album and upcoming tour in Q2 and their tour Q2-Q4 I doubt they woudl wanna release any anniversaries through that time

[worn gull]

I've been waiting a long time
For this moment to come

[celest hawk]

This sounds so so good. I just posted this on the subreddit…

https://youtu.be/aCoQWrPszdk?si=Y3W_uUQjU4m3BJLX

[worn gull]

Dookie 80th anniversary: Green Day comes and haunts your house

[eager swan]

Still a month to go , arghghhhhhhh can't wait

[swift flare]

I can wait

I hate the new music

Dos is better

[deft violet]

Y'all are killjoys, we will get Cigarettes & Valentines next year end of discussion.

[eager swan]

I just wana hear Fancy sauce and Suzie chapstick.
I'll skip the rest

[ornate zenith]

Confusing

[subtle ravine]

Green Day was never good actually

[tired shale]

Woo! I'm back, baby (I'm @pallid gulch lol)

Been gone a while, so I have a bit to say. The songs so far have been absolutely incredible, what a bang up job Green Day and crew have done on this album. It's such a relief to hear Green Day doing what they do best under some good production. They haven't made a good ass plain Green Day album with Rob in a hot minute. These songs feel like an evolution for the band that doesn't feel alien to them. Is it their best songs ever? No but Look Ma, No Brains still slaps, so sue me haha

Ratings for each song so far (including leaks and live material)

TADIKM (7/10)

LMNB (10/10)

Dilemma (10/10)

One Eyed Bastard (6/10)

1981 (5/10, more positive than negative)

[obsidian harbor]

Fair assessment although I don’t think we can rate OEB fairly considering all we have was the demo

And 1981 too probably because we’ve only heard it live but we can make a closer guess on that one

[tired shale]

That's true, I think I'll like the proper recordings better but that's where they stand as of now

Dilemma was so good, I don't know if I like that or Look Ma better

[tiny plover]

I love the verses before the chorus in OEB

Especially the "I never asked to hear your goddamned feelings" part

[tired shale]

Oh yeah, that is the highlight of the song

It's weird they kept it because it and American Dream are so similar

[obsidian harbor]

i mean they were likely written in the same era so yeah theyre a little similar but overall theyre pretty different

[tiny plover]

I think you can see that Look Ma No Brains and 1981 were written around the same time as some of MM2020 pt.2

Songs like Carolina's Ultimaten Netflix Tweet, Theory Of Reality and Ivankkka Is A Nazi

I'm interested if they have a foam like song on saviors and if they do, then how will they do it, since this album is heavier and more ambitious

[obsidian harbor]

Maybe a song closer to take the money and crawl or stab you in the heart?

Since those could bridge the difference in musical style between saviors and foam

[tiny plover]

Yeah

Didn't they call saviors Foam's child lol? MM2020 pt. 2 is like Foam's older brother who fucked MM2020

Yeah true

Warning gave birth to jesus of suburbia

And he found the boring old Warning lame and went on an adventure

Then jesus came back and became close with Warning and 21st CB was born

Someone needs to make an anime from this

Just credit me for this part

It's the AI movie, but not what people wanted

Then middle age crisis hit em. Warning became Tre, Jesus became DOS and 21st CB became UNO if that makes any sense

The characters hitting middle age at once makes no sense, but that is the script writer's problem

Guys sorry for this cancer

[fierce trout]

What is blud waffling about

[tiny plover]

No clue

[keen pewter]

send it to a publisher

[lofty yacht]

The ratings of OEB And 1981 are very silly songs have not even come out yet

[tired shale]

Yeah, I know it's not exactly fair to assess them in the state they're but I just wanted to include them

Rating will change with the proper releases

[knotty crow]

i think one eyed bastard is gonna be pretty good

already sounds pretty heavy and we know it'll sound different on saviors

at least a little bit

[tired shale]

The best part is the second verse into the pre-chorus, wonder how they're gonna do that on the album proper

I don't see there being a massive difference, if there is one, it would just be re-recorded and produced proper, still using the same blueprint as the demo

[fierce trout]

OEB is my least favorite out of everything we’ve heard

It sounds like so what by pink

[last glen]

So what?

[jolly zealot]

you probably secretly love that song

[fierce trout]

why would i secretly love something that i explicitly said i dont love

[barren plinth]

i still don't really like any of them... but i'm okay with that.

[ornate zenith]

Because it wouldn’t be a secret if you said you love it

[sacred bone]

is that a good or bad thing?

[bronze swan]

Debatable

Personally I really don’t like 1981

Way too much repetition

Not the good kind

[tiny plover]

The verse is often stuck in my head

[deft violet]

SHE'S GONNA BANG HER HEAD LIKE 1981

The verse and bridge are sick, I hope the chorus slaps in the studio version.

[eager swan]

Can't wait to hear OEB saviors version

[deft violet]

I hope it's agressive as fuck

[keen pewter]

bros topping the NYT list

1981 is my least favorite by far

but OEB is a close second

[eager swan]

What's NYT?

New York Times?
New year time?
?

[pulsar egret]

No you today

[ornate zenith]

New York Times

He meant New York Times best seller list

[fierce trout]

1981 is good

Don’t let the haters tell you otherwise

[plush warren]

^

To each their own but I think it’s gonna be great on the album

[eager swan]

I'm not an expert on judging music by live performances but I gotta say 1981 is quite average and nothing extraordinary.
Just your typical Green Day touche

Also it's funny how we've already heard 5 songs out of 7 from side A of the album.

I hope they release a single from Side B as well

High chances being Father to a son

[pulsar egret]

Talking bout the cassette?

[eager swan]

This

[pulsar egret]

In my opinion, Dilemma just isn’t that great

[eager swan]

Yeah, seems like a rip off version of Still breathing

Although the guitar riff is good

[pulsar egret]

It just doesn’t hit for me, and the lyrics just don’t strike a chord with me

[pulsar egret]

I’ll give them that

It sounds good

But the lyrics just aren’t there in my eyes

[eager swan]

I guess people likes it for the lyrics.. and I am not the "lyric" guy

[pulsar egret]

I just don’t like it in general tbh

It doesn’t feel like a Green Day song if that makes sense

[eager swan]

I feel like it's an ok song

Just not a single material

[pulsar egret]

Pretty much sums it up

[eager swan]

Now I am worried

[pulsar egret]

Why?

[eager swan]

I am worried there could be more worst songs on the album

[pulsar egret]

I’m sure it’ll be fine

[eager swan]

But

Nothings gona stop me from liking Fancy sauce

I have this weird feeling that it'll be my favourite song on the album next to LMNB

Suzie chapstick and booby sox next

[ornate zenith]

”not the lyric guy”
deciding favorite songs in advance just from the title

[ornate zenith]

LMNB is a ripoff of Brat then

[eager swan]

But they sound nothing alike though

[ornate zenith]

Dilemma sounds practically nothing like still breathing

Similar lyrical themes

That’s what I was going off of

I do think LMNB and Brat (along with most insomniac songs) have a lot of musical similarities but that’s not a bad thing anyhow

Still breathing follows every pop song convention in the book, much cleaner, pretty vague lyrically, totally different melody and chord progression

Fuckin heavy ass drop D guitar

Completely different songs aside from Dilemma being the dark depressing version of what Still Breathing is about

Dilemma is closer musically to Whatsername than Still Breathing. Honestly I can’t even think of another song to compare it to

That grungey drop D guitar is such a departure

[obsidian harbor]

And just the fact it has more drive than they typically use

Anyone else find it odd the line “strange days are here again” was on dilemma when there is a song titled Strange Days Are Here To Stay

[last glen]

Yeah I'm not sure how people are saying it sounds like Still Breathing ngl

I don't hear it

[obsidian harbor]

Also from all of the interviews it seems like coma city is gonna be one of the huge highlights of the album

[ornate zenith]

Probably gonna be a bit of lyrical continuity on the album

They kinda implied that in that interview

[obsidian harbor]

I figured given that every song so far has some lyric in reference to death

[ornate zenith]

Alt press interview I mean

So some thematic continuity and then some lyrics that tie them together

[obsidian harbor]

I think that type of songwriting really suits Green Day

[ornate zenith]

AI and 21CB are full of it

Among others

[last glen]

Pretty cool looking Saviors t-shirt from Hot Topic

https://www.hottopic.com/product/green-day-saviors-t-shirt/31519064.html

[indigo spruce]

How can hot topic design better cover art than the band themselves 💀

[ornate zenith]

The covers not great but if it looked like that shirt I definitely wouldn’t have ordered the vinyl

[last glen]

Love albums with consistent themes fr

Damn, that shirt shipped really fast too. Says it'll come in on Saturday

[jolly zealot]

I wouldnt say it if you did say you loved it, you just dont get how things work

[jolly zealot]

so its a rip off because it has similar themes, that seems like a huge over statement

[static flint]

yeah they do that alot lmao

AI mentions american idiot on homecoming

[brisk pumice]

Heyo if anyone wants a translation of the Visions DE interview with the guys hmu

[brisk pumice]

One thing I can pull out is that Billie said “if we play Dookie for its entirety every evening, the set will be over in 30 minutes. We have to create variety somehow”

Sooooo

👀

here's the link: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Uk5ir9cU9lCaNwDP1_PRPM54v7TwDENf7CgXbr3VY7Y/edit?usp=sharing

I know there was a first half of that interview but I couldn't find it on the IG post, I'll look for this magazine but I dunno if I'll find it in Austria

[indigo spruce]

Lol Mike reposted furry art of the whole band, these sure are strange days

[worn gull]

Dookie is almost 40 minutes long

[brisk pumice]

It’s what Billie said in the interview 🤷🏻‍♀️

They do play faster live

[worn gull]

Oh yeah that's true

[sacred bone]

whats the takeaway from this.... cant tell which way it leans

[obsidian harbor]

Can’t tell if he’s saying “that would be dumb so we’re not doing it” or if he’s saying “it’ll be like the secret show with more stuff after dookie”

I hope it’s not the entirety of dookie that’s a bit boring for me

[worn gull]

Ik I'm a bit late but... Opinions on Dilemma?

[bold relic]

Good

[deft violet]

Great

Best single since Bang Bang

[obsidian harbor]

I’m torn between it and Look Ma

[knotty crow]

after having listened to it a shit ton i can comfortably say it's the best single from saviors so far

i've listened to all three songs a lot but i think dilemma is my favorite

[obsidian harbor]

TADIKM is definitely the weakest

But I can understand why it was the first

It’s safe, classic Green Day

[obsidian harbor]

Based off the interviews, I think coma city is the bands favorite song

[obsidian harbor]

Oh yeah definitely

I see it

[rancid arch]

Dilemma just passed 1M on YT.

[deft violet]

99 Revolutions vibes

[worn gull]

I WAS SOBER NOW I'M DRUNK AGAIN

[worn gull]

Its an amazing song, it really is! Already know all 3 on guitar

[tired shale]

These songs show that this is what Green Day should've been doing all along

Making good ass GD songs with Rob and CLA

[sacred bone]

link to interview

[brisk pumice]

Dont have it

Its in a magazine, GreenDayInc posted a pic of a page

[eager swan]

Look ma- fav single
Dilemma- Best guitar riff
American Dream- nice sing along chorus. Good for live.

[subtle ravine]

Man it breaks my heart to read about Billie's struggles with alcohol

[brisk pumice]

It do be like that… it’s impossible for him to be fully sober in the industry and setting he is in unfortunately. I’m glad to hear he’s getting better at managing it

[last glen]

Not too surprising, as we're only a month out now. And by then, it'll just be a couple weeks

[knotty crow]

i would imagine they're all saviors songs

i doubt they're pulling out rarities for new years rockin eve

[indigo spruce]

Any bets? I'm calling 1981 and Father to a son

[deft violet]

I wonder if the album will have leaked by then

Would be disappointing if we heard half of it before it's out

I prefer to just have everything leaked

[ornate zenith]

Westbound sign obviously

[worn gull]

Imagine if they play something like Junkies on a High or Like a Rat does Cheese🤣🤣

I know, I was just kidding

[obsidian harbor]

Their wording doesn’t specify songs they’ve never played live

Just songs they’ve never played

[worn gull]

What about 'You Irritate Me'

[obsidian harbor]

Which maybe means they’re all from the new album

Because songs they’ve never played is implies that it means no songs from previous albums since those hav been played

That’s what I’m saying in response to the people who were saying songs from other albums

[worn gull]

For example: Outlaws or HaHa Your Dead (Idak with that one lol)

I would LOVE to hear deep duts from Warning played live!

[worn gull]

I feel like we're getting our hopes up with the deep cuts

[ornate zenith]

Nah man we’re totally getting the live debut of Jinx on New Year’s Rockin Eve /s

If they’re not doing a bunch of new Saviors songs I will be incredibly surprised

And I hope that’s what they’re doing

[knotty crow]

i'm just spitballing but i feel like it might be dilemma, coma city, goodnight adeline, father to a son and title track or something along those lines

[hallow creek]

According to an article I read they are playing Dilemma, Holiday, Welcome To Paradise and Basket Case. And by playing I mean they likely already recorded it at some soundstage in Hollywood with a bunch of people in the crowd pretending it’s New Year’s when it’s actually 3pm in mid November.

[ornate zenith]

First time ever must mean the first time they’re playing new years rockin eve then

[hallow creek]

No they played it a couple years ago, I think the 5 songs is the first time a band has done that maybe? The article only mentioned four songs though. It’s also first time ever playing Dilemma live so it could just be poorly worded

[obsidian harbor]

Seems like a lot of conflicting information

I could buy a poorly worded article if it wasn’t for the “not one, not two, but five” bit

Since that really doubles down on the idea that it’s new stuff

Guess there’s only one way to find out

[knotty crow]

yeah i was totally thinking they would be playing stuff from saviors

and it would make sense

[obsidian harbor]

We just gotta wait

[knotty crow]

right

that's some odd info though all the same

oh well

[hallow creek]

Sounds to me like just Dilemma and a couple songs from Dookie and a couple from AI spread over 3 sets that will be aired at different points in the broadcast

[obsidian harbor]

Oh that’s weird that it was initially phrased that way

Weird that they woudl do a few songs from dookie and American idiot but then just a single from their upcoming album

Like kinda weird that one of the three performances is a single song

Maybe they’ll surprise us with more but my expectations are way lower now

[hallow creek]

Not really that weird, they aren’t being booked for things like this to play songs the audience won’t know or care about.

[ornate zenith]

It's exactly what I would've expected if the wording on the announcement wasn't confusing as hell

[eager swan]

This is very subjective. They could mean they're playing Dilemma live for the first time or Playing older songs live for the first time.

[ornate zenith]

You could say it's open to interpretation but actually it's just shitty wording and confusing

[worn gull]

They learnt from iHeartRadio in 2012

[subtle ravine]

One of them better be No One Knows

[indigo spruce]

I think that will happen when hell freezes over

[deft violet]

Maybe they'll get Lady Cobra as a guest and play Nightlife

Who knows maybe they'll debut Coma City ft. Lady Cobra

[jolly zealot]

honestly id be all for it

[quiet berry]

lol no way they do that

[worn gull]

Imagine if they decide to just play all of Kerplunk at some point in the tour

[ornate zenith]

Imagine if they decide to just play all of Dos at some point in the tour

[keen pewter]

imagine they just decide to play Westbound Sign at some point during the tour!

[eager swan]

imagine they just decide to play All by myself at some point during the tour!

[last glen]

My Saviors shirt came in!!

[knotty crow]

can't wait for them to finish the tour with uno, dos, tre in one set

and all of saviors as the encore

[obsidian harbor]

That would be sick

Given how much they seem to have recorded their time in the studio we might get something like it

[tired shale]

After 21CBD, Green Day has gotten into this cycle

Going back and forth from a really good Pop Punk album to a strange experiment

I wonder what album 15 will turn out to be /j

[worn gull]

Just got back from 2028, album 15 turns out to be some weird psychedelic shit similar to Rest (track 9 on )

Somehow it's actually quite good

[tired shale]

That actually doesn't sound bad

[tired shale]

Green Day Drill album

[ornate zenith]

Basket Case (track 7 on dookie)

[worn gull]

Uptight (track 9 on nimrod.)

Anyway we also made a quick stop in 2032 to refuel the TARDIS, and turns out album 16 is gonna make Green Day the biggest band in the world for a third time

unfortunately, because Billie's already 60 years old by then it's another 6 years after that before album 17 comes out, but the band keeps busy with touring and festivals during that time

it's really worth it though, album 18 is even better than album 17

||of course I'm making all this shit up, but it's a really nice scenario to imagine||

[deft violet]

Thanks for the precision lmfao

[pulsar egret]

HES 60?!

[worn gull]

He's turning 52 in 2024, he'll be 60 in 2032

[tiny plover]

52 sounds older than it is

It's not really old

It's a weird number

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah it’s pretty close to middle age

[brisk pumice]

1. Tadikm
2. Lmnb
3. Oeb
4. 1981
5. Dilemma

Not that new

[hearty solar]

One Eyed Bastard would be really awesome live

[last glen]

One month!

[indigo spruce]

Holy toledo

How has this happened so fast

We've been waiting for what feels like half a decade an now in 31 days it's here

[plush warren]

^^^

[deft violet]

It's nice that they announced the album less than 3 month from release. With 3 singles in between, it goes by quite fast and builds up hype. (Looking at you Sum 41)

[quiet berry]

I'm so excited for it, I don't think I've ever been this hyped about a new album before

[worn gull]

GUYS I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING

LISTEN TO THE RIFF IN MARIA
https://youtu.be/w9e8V-UDDvA

IT SOUNDS JUST LIKE LOOK MA

[obsidian harbor]

I guess

It’s just going from the 4 to the 1

Which they do a decent amount

It’s exactly what they do on TADIKM

[worn gull]

No I mean the riff

It's basically the same

[fierce trout]

Maria is better

[sacred bone]

https://twitter.com/RockinEve/status/1732782014074605660 How are they doing all 5 as never played songs and anniversary stuff?

For AI they could do C and V but they have played all of dookie

[keen pewter]

this fanbase gives me migraines daily

[sacred bone]

np

[fierce trout]

💀

[keen pewter]

I would bet my entire life savings that it’s literally just

Dilemma
Holiday
Boulevard
When I Come Around
Basket Case

and the whole “first time ever” bullshit is just the first time a band has played this many songs on Rockin Eve

[fierce trout]

that’s exactly what I thought when i read it

it’s not that complicated

Also

why would they play random b sides from American idiot that they’ve never played before for a NYE audience

[sacred bone]

bc having hope is important

and i thought this through after midnight

[keen pewter]

same energy as “I hope they play westbound sign on tour!”

[worn gull]

If I were them I'd just completely eliminate the big hits from the setlist for this tour and bring out all the new songs and deep cuts.

Basket Case? We got Castaway.
When I Come Around? We got At the Library.
Holiday? We got Deadbeat Holiday.
Boulevard of Broken Dreams? We got Who Wrote Holden Caulfield.
Longview? We got Dilemma.
Wake Me Up When September Ends? We got the Grouch.
Welcome to Paradise? We got Look Ma No Brains.
Jesus of Suburbia? We got Disappearing Boy.
Know Your Enemy? We got Emenius Sleepus.
21 Guns? We got Private Ale.
King for a Day? We got Fancy Sauce.
Nice Guys Finish Last? We got Goodnight Adeline.
American Idiot? Fuck that, we got Whatsername!

I'd still keep Good Riddance as the last song of course, but everything else would be deep cuts from the 90s or new songs from Saviors.

[ornate zenith]

Deep cut-only setlist for a stadium tour

[deft violet]

How many days before release did Green Day last few albums leaked ?

I wonder if we can expect something before new year

[worn gull]

Very punk

[ornate zenith]

Revrad was like a week before or something, but just FYI we don’t post leaks, ask for leaks or offer to share leaks here

[deft violet]

Sure, juste discussing 👍

[worn gull]

The Ultimate Green Day Deepcut Setlist:

1. 8th Avenue Serenade
2. 16
3. Sweet 16
4. 80
5. 86
6. 99 Revolutions
7. 409 in Your Coffeemaker
8. 1000 Hours
9. 1981
10. 2000 Light Years Away
11. Sassafras Roots
12. Whatsername
13. East Jesus Nowhere
14. Carpe Diem
15. Bab's Uvula Who?
16. Who Wrote Holden Caulfield?
17. Why Do You Want Him?
18. Look Ma, No Brains!
19. Cigarettes & Valentines
20. Private Ale
21. Scattered
22. Deadbeat Holiday
23. The American Dream is Killing Me
24. No Pride
25. Emenius Sleepus
26. Homecoming
27. Castaway
28. Dilemma
29. Uptight
30. Outlaws
31. Church on Sunday
32. Fancy Sauce
33. Lazy Bones
34. Wild One
35. Too Dumb to Die
36. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

[worn gull]

Looks like C&V tracklist

[indigo spruce]

The ultimate deep cut list

[jolly zealot]

you give me migraines so stop it with the skull

[jolly zealot]

Are all of those confirmed titles of songs

[indigo spruce]

Yes, I collected those over the last year. They range from unused titles to never released songs

[ornate zenith]

Yeah the fantasy setlist stuff is better suited for #greenday-chat than here

[brisk pumice]

I realized that after I wrote it hmmm

[indigo spruce]

Sorry, I'll keep that in mind

[worn gull]

Alright gonna transfer them over then

[tiny plover]

With both FOAM and MM2020 pt 2 I think a week before or little less before

[deft violet]

Thanks man

I can't wait

[last glen]

I probably would, but only because I wanna know what songs I would immediately add to my playlist lol

If it were poorly recorded definitely not though

[tired shale]

I hope this album is actually a success

Father Of All nosedived these guys, straight into the ground and had only further cemented them in the public eye as a burnout band. Hopefully Saviors does justice for them and they actually get some recognition for it

[last glen]

I feel like it will at the very least give people hope again. Whether its financially successful or not, I'm sure it will be received significantly better than FOA

[sacred bone]

Ill probably listen to oeb because im curious if the riff was changed and leave the rest for release day.

[subtle ravine]

Idk why ppl insist on them changing the riff lol

I really doubt they'll do that just cuz it kinda sounds like another song lol

[last glen]

I'm expecting the production to be much improved at the very least

[fierce trout]

They changed Hold On though

[subtle ravine]

Exactly lol

[abstract grove]

My deep cut list I would die to see live

1. Do da da
2. Misery
3. Lazy bones
4. Desensitized
5. I was there
6. Jackass
7. One of my lies
8. Westbound sign
9. Haushinka
10. X-Kid
11. Blood sex and booze
12. Uptight
13. Working class hero
14. Suffocate
15. Rotting
16. 86
17. Paper lanterns
18. Chump
19. Dilemma
20. Give me novacaine
21. Maria
22. Deadbeat Holiday
23. Prosthetic head
24. You lied
25. Worry rock
26. Somewhere now
27. Rusty James

Encore
28. See the light
29. Macys day parade

[sacred bone]

if it was done around foamf butch walker may have worked on it. He appears in the music video for so what and has written for pink in the past.

i feel like saviors discussion became saviors and saviors tour discusion at some point

macys day parade doesnt seem likely as a closer on the dookie and american idiot stadium tour? I dont mind actual setlist predictions tbf but these are just lists of deepcuts. Actual predictions could lead to interesting discusions

[fierce trout]

i would love if they closed with whatsername

[sacred bone]

As far as shallow cuts (not quite a deep one) i hope she makes the setlist.

[obsidian harbor]

I been saying this

I can hold off a week if there’s a leak but if it leaks on Christmas or something idk if I can do that

[fierce trout]

imagine if this was the setlist:
American Idiot
Holiday
Know Your Enemy
Boulevard of Broken Dreams
Longview
Welcome to Paradise
Hitchin' a Ride
Rock and Roll All Nite (KISS cover)
Brain Stew
St. Jimmy
When I Come Around
21 Guns
Minority
Knowledge (Operation Ivy cover)
Basket Case
King for a Day / Shout
Wake Me Up When September Ends
Jesus of Suburbia
Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

that would be a shocker wouldnt it

[obsidian harbor]

Stop sending your setlists

[fierce trout]

this was clearly a joke

[keen pewter]

I understand legitimate setlist predictions for the Saviors Tour but yall mfs just sending the most outrageous shit

[deft violet]

Do you guys think we'll get a new single the first week of january or when the album releases ?

[eager swan]

What does this have to do with saviors discussion?? There's another channel for that

[eager swan]

Yes we will. Infact the whole album will be leaked

[ornate zenith]

You will be leaked

[obsidian harbor]

I think maybe 1981 just because we’ve already heard it many times live

[keen pewter]

Do you promise

[ornate zenith]

I prommy

[hearty solar]

or replace when I come around with american idiot lol

[hearty solar]

I know someone's Dookie vinyls got delivered a few days early from the release

so hopefully I get my saviors vinyl early

[hearty solar]

wheres Still Breathing and Pollyana lol

then it'd be literally just the Hella Mega Tour setlist

My prediction is that they'll play the entirety of Father of All!!!

[fierce trout]

i wont even get my saviors vinyl for like half a year because its shipping to my parents house and im gonna be at college

[hearty solar]

Hella Paviors Mega Tour Setlist:
0. Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)

1. Father of All...
2. Father of All...
3. Father of All... (Extra Long Version)
4. Junkies on a High
5. Stab You in the Heart
6. Nightlife (Extra Long Version)
7. Meet Me on the Roof
8. American Idiot (Extra Short Version)
9. Boulevard of Broken Dreams (Tease/only the start of it)
10. Misery
11. Fuck Time
12. Fuck Time
13. Are We the Waiting
14. Know Your Enemy
15. Rotting

Encore:
17. Outsiders (Ramones Cover)
18. Blitzkrieg Bop (Ramones Cover)
19. Governator
20. Fuck Time

Super Duper Secret Backstage Acoustic Concert (you have to run into backstage to hear it):

1. Fuck Time
2. American Idiot
3. Father of All...
4. The American Dream is Killing Me
5. Warning

[indigo spruce]

I made a prediction a year ago about what I thought the 1972 tracklist would look like, and had two songs in there which actually came true more or less, "Drunken-loaded" (Dilemma) and "Barbwire Dreams" (Tadikm)

[eager swan]

What?

[indigo spruce]

I wrote a fictitious tracklist for the new album and more or less predicted two songs, I thought that was quite funny

[slow crest]

I think it’s lame that they’re faking it instead of actually performing live on new years but like if it gets people talking about GD that’s all I care about

Oh I misread it it’s just Jason’s guess

[hallow creek]

My guess was that it has already been filmed, but I don't have to guess if they are performing live - they aren't. There's a Coverups show on NYE

[obsidian harbor]

Honestly not surprised, easier and cheaper to record beforehand than stream it live

[slow crest]

Ahh damn

[ornate zenith]

Doesn't matter much to me if they pre-record for something like a NYE special, it's a live performance regardless

[last glen]

I just think it's cool that green day is even there ngl

Could've chosen plenty of others, but chose Green Day

[worn gull]

Seen Gray Daviors

[eager swan]

Saviors will be the worst album next to FOAM

[worn gull]

Bold words for someone with a Saviors song title as their name

[jolly zealot]

It'll be one of the best

[worn gull]

@jolly zealot is correct

It's gonna be the best album since and

It's gonna be the best non-concept Green Day album

Either that or it turns out only the singles are good and the rest is shit

But I trust Green Day, they turned out a 12-album streak of perfect albums from in 1990 to in 2016, only briefly interrupted by a couple of songs on but otherwise every-song-a-banger
Even was good, it just wasn't as good as all the others
With a track record like this, I have full faith that will be just as good as or even better than every other Green Day album

[obsidian harbor]

I ain’t even gonna read that

[worn gull]

It would be really funny if it sucked

Oh you've never seen so many bad takes? List all of them.

Yours

[eager swan]

I admit LMNB is one of the best singles since bang bang and it's one of the few songs on repeat for me .
I love LMNB, period. Of course TADIKM and dilemma are fine too.. all three songs are classic green day. But I have a bad feeling about how the album will turn out.

In the latest Amazon music interview, Billie did say it's one of the best album they've ever made. That's pretty bold him to say that considering he said that multiple times in the past

[ornate zenith]

Usually their singles are like one song that’s one of the best off the album and then the others are kinda middle of the road

So I find it the opposite of worrying that all three singles have been awesome

[eager swan]

In the past , they don't pick the singles.. it's the record labels.
But now they do

Yeah, but i meant in the past

The guys finally have music they own.

[ornate zenith]

If they can release three songs before everything else and those are all satisfying I think it’s signaling that the overall album is high quality. Plus even if those three are the best songs off the album that’s a pretty high bar anyway

A bunch of other songs that are as good or maybe not as good is probably still a good as fuck album

Revrad had three songs released before the full album and those were all pretty good, then the full album comes out and it has stuff like Forever Now on it

[eager swan]

I think the quality of the album will be on par with Revrad, atleast that's what I think.
3-4 songs were Good and rest were pretty average

[ornate zenith]

Suffice to say it’s not really pointing any direction in particular, but we have a sample size of 3 right now and they’re all good so that extrapolates to a bombass album

[worn gull]

I wonder if Dillema is the last single or if we're getting one more before the album drops

[eager swan]

Pretty sure we're getting one before the album is out

Most of the fans including myself though we were getting father to a son but we got dilemma

[ornate zenith]

Sixteen more singles before the album is out

[eager swan]

I am just curious about father to a son.. is it included in the teasers they've shared in the past ?? Or are we getting something new

Remember the teaser where Billie is playing an acoustic and the video playing backwards?

That's either Father to a son or Suzie chapstick

[ornate zenith]

One eyed bastard acoustic version

[eager swan]

Considering these two songs have aco arrangements

[eager swan]

No shit,

[worn gull]

I'll have to call Green Day and ask them

[eager swan]

Someone pls tag Billy Joel armstronk in this channel

I need Billie to perform JOS live acoustic.
Solo

But i doubt he could do that since he'll be running around the stage shouting "hey ohhh" and "raise your hands up in the air"

[sacred bone]

Are you saying saviors will be better than dookie?

[ornate zenith]

Fuck it

Why not

[obsidian harbor]

I think they have the capacity to make a better album than dookie but I don’t think it would happen anytime soon

[worn gull]

It could be

[vapid fern]

So far it’s definitely not one of my favourites

I like the riffs but I don’t really like the lyrics too much tbh

Just seem too like, they are meant to be taken at face value which isn’t really usually green day in their older albums

[ornate zenith]

Tis a different era of the band

[eager swan]

Look ma, no Christmas tree

Btw it's Christmas over here.
Merry Christmas fellas 🎄🎄

[rancid arch]

It's crazy how TADIKM could have been on FOAMF.

Wonder what it would've sounded like with the production.

[worn gull]

That's what St. Jimmy's Stuff is for.

[static flint]

ima be real

probably graffitia

[eager swan]

I have a theory that Fancy sauce is a Christmas Song

[indigo spruce]

They made Christmas covers?

[static flint]

and X-mas time of the year

but that’s not a cover

[indigo spruce]

I looked em up and I gotta admit I totally forgot about these potatoe-quality covers

[hearty solar]

he takes too long

[obsidian harbor]

I would explode

[obsidian harbor]

Probably

I wonder what two idiot songs they’ll do

[indigo spruce]

My money is on AI and Bobd

[fierce trout]

AI and Holiday

Probably

[deft violet]

I'm more excited about the Coverups show tbh

[rancid arch]

Irving!

18-01-24

[fierce trout]

anyone know when tickets come out for this?

[last glen]

That just makes sense yeah

[knotty crow]

that would be awesome

and 21cb was the last time they did that if i'm not mistaken

[fierce trout]

damn this is the day i fly back to New York for college

hopefully i can get tickets

[fierce trout]

i wish they still had the idiot club

that’s how i got tickets for a 1500 person show in 2013

[pulsar egret]

I think Dilemma is an overrated song

I just dont see why people like it

[fierce trout]

It’s the best single from saviors

So far

[pulsar egret]

It is?

It just feels so flat and boring if you ask me

If it were really a good song, I’d have remembered the song for weeks

[tired shale]

Look Ma, No Brains supremacy!

[knotty crow]

everyone's different i guess

but i love dilemma

it pops into my head constantly

and a green day song in drop d is awesome

[plush warren]

Every single so far has been incredible

[rancid arch]

The one thing that I need from this album is replayability.

[eager swan]

Mostly because what the song is about and the lyrics.
Sure it does have a nice guitar riff but I don't feel it either.

[eager swan]

I second this.

[pulsar egret]

EXACTLY

[eager swan]

Half of the plays on Spotify for Look ma is possibly from me.

[worn gull]

the uno dos tre trilogy is far from perfect 😭

OH BABY BABY ITS FUCK TIMEEEEE

[worn gull]

That's a great song what're you talking about

[deft violet]

https://youtu.be/rns_LvXnfwI?si=V2KICmQydfI11zGL

The trilogy really shines live

https://youtu.be/K_00YoAToHc?si=zLzusceQGZ0s8L-4

[worn gull]

The trilogy is very very underrated, almost every song on those three albums is very replayable

Especially the songs on

[obsidian harbor]

Someone better get some good recordings of these

[azure helm]

if i hear suzie chapstick im gonna fucking explode

[subtle ravine]

BM-excellent tits

I feel like I'm the only one that doesn't love Look Ma lol

Like, I think it's a pretty good song

But I'm not in love with it

[obsidian harbor]

I will if I hear Coma City

[deft violet]

I will if I hear Bobby Sox

[abstract grove]

I just started listening to the Sirius station. anybody been listening since the beginning? any new songs yet?

that seems deceitful. lol

[rancid arch]

Not really.

"New songs" definitely implies singles that have already been released.

Now, if they said "brand new", then that would be raw, unbridled bamboozlery.

I do hope they randomly play 1-2 brand new songs though.

[rancid arch]

Bobby Sox is apparently comparable to 2000 Light Years in terms of subject matter.

[deft violet]

Anyone think this has been repurposed into a Saviors song ?

[plush warren]

It’s about zombie romance right?

[subtle ravine]

I hope so, I think it has potential to be a good song

Plus, Fever, which was a song that was also on that leak, is a bonus track so

DJD could've been reworked into a different song or retitled

I remember that Oh Yeah was originally called Bulletproof Backpack

[deft violet]

Yeah, I don't even know where the title comes from since the lyrics are inaudible

[tiny plover]

We will hear DJD in 2054

Hopefully it will hit hard

Or we hear it in 2024

[ornate zenith]

@deft violet can’t shared leaked songs here (or ask for leaks)

[deft violet]

My bad man, since youtube allows it I didn't think much of it

[ornate zenith]

Yeah some leaks have managed to evade getting taken down from YouTube I guess

[subtle ravine]

Oh, I didn't think much of it bc it's only an 8 second snippet of a song we don't even know its on the album lol

[deft violet]

Fever sounds boring though, I hope that it has some suprise

[ornate zenith]

Yeah we just wanna avoid trouble with copyright and stuff since they were leaked that’s all

[subtle ravine]

I feel the same about it lol

DJD sounds way more interesting in those 8 seconds lol

[keen pewter]

Fever being a bonus track is fine with me bc that snippet is so meh

[fierce trout]

what are the chances of winning tickets to the Irving plaza show

low right

[worn gull]

DJD?

[rancid arch]

Damn Juvenile Delinquents.

[hearty solar]

Fever and DJD sound really good

[eager swan]

I think they're talking about one of the 3 singles from Saviors

[eager swan]

Nah

[subtle ravine]

So true

[deft violet]

Slow chat... Is it the calm before the storm ?

[deft violet]

Ok buddy

[deft violet]

Just got back from 2 weeks in the future. Here is my Saviors ranking.

1. Bobby Sox
2. Coma City
3. Look Ma, No Brains !
4. Fancy Sauce
5. Corvette Summer
6. Dilemma
7. Living In the 20s
8. Saviors
9. One Eyed Bastard
10. Father to a Son
11. Suzie Chapstick
12. The American Dream is Killing Me
13. 1981
14. Strange Days are Here to Stay
15. Goodnight Adeline

[deft violet]

True

I'm so desesperate

I just want new Green Day songs

[bronze swan]

Green dya server is getting toxic in wait of the new album

Turning us all to savages

[lofty yacht]

Nah were not there yet

Key word

YET

[obsidian harbor]

If Look Ma was number 3 on the album I would actually be concerned

[bronze swan]

Look Ma is mid

Also if Look Ma is higher than Dilemma then I’m concerned for the album

[ornate zenith]

Yeah Billie Joe called me and said they got the release date wrong on the ads and it’s actually coming out January 19th 2025

Sorry guys

[knotty crow]

can't wait for saviors, release date january 19th 2026

we're all gonna be anticipating the day the album comes out, january 19th 2027

january 19th 2028 can't come fast enough

[bronze swan]

No dilemma rules

Look Ma is forgettable

Only cool part is Taco Bell

TADIKM also is id argue

Dilemmas the only one that gets stuck in my head and I don’t get annoyed

I was sober now I’m drunk againnnnnnn I love it

And 1981.

I hate 1981.

My ranking for the four we’ve heard

Dilemma
Look Ma
TADIKM

1981

1981 just gets on my nerves

[keen pewter]

this is the way

[ornate zenith]

Gonna bang your mom like 1981

[pulsar egret]

I already banged ur mum in 1987

[eager swan]

Look ma, no penis

The American dream is making me cum

[bronze swan]

Dicklemma

[eager swan]

Thanks, I couldn't think of a word for dillema

[worn gull]

Dildo

[jolly zealot]

stfu

[worn gull]

She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981

She is a lesbian and she
Is in love with your mother
And she'll never make love to a man
She is a motherfucker and
Your mom has left your dad
For her true love and she won't look back

They're going to be married when September ends
Your daddy left and now your mommy's got a girlfriend

She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981

Your mommy is in love
Loving another girl
And she is so happy
Your daddy is gone now
And he's wondering how
She fell in love, with a lovely girl like that

She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981
She's gonna bang your mom like 1981

(Yes, I wrote it myself)

[deft violet]

What's your opinion on One Eyed Bastard ?

[bronze swan]

Haven’t heard it

Keep planning on listening

Then just kinda don’t

[fierce trout]

1981 IS GOOD

[subtle ravine]

I am a 1981 defender

The live performance of it in Paris completely sold me on it, I think it sounds great

[ornate zenith]

I haven’t even listened to it I just know that line from @worn gull saying it

[deft violet]

I hope the album leaks next week. I'm going crazy

[subtle ravine]

Next week seems to close for it to leak imo but idk

FOAM leaked like a week before release

[brisk pumice]

What is this🤣

Tbh I’m like this with LMNB because fsr I always think it goes “Ligma, no brains”

[worn gull]

Idk lol, I just saw that line and decided "time to write a parody"

[tiny plover]

In my head the release date is 2 months away still

I don't realize it's so close

[last glen]

3 weeks!!

[obsidian harbor]

It would be hard but I would hold off

[deft violet]

All those articles are the same aren't they

They never ask interesting questions

It's always basic promotion stuff

[worn gull]

That's how you know they aren't fans

[eager swan]

We should be getting another single before the album is out

By that time we could've heard about 1/4th of the album

[subtle ravine]

Same here actually

I feel the same

I'm gonna try to not listen to another single if it isn't OEB or 1981

Bc I wanna be surprised

[worn gull]

Not me, if Green Day releases a new song I'm THERE

potential new sticker/emoji btw

[sacred bone]

The bridge in oeb is so good.

[eager swan]

Yeah it's good and now we're gonna hear Rob Covallo's version. It'll be better

[worn gull]

Just 20 days left, guys!

[fierce trout]

what time are the NYE performances

[keen pewter]

I don’t think we’ll know an exact time until they announce “and Green Day is coming up next!”

[brisk pumice]

Can someone tag me and tell me what songs they played pretty please

[ornate zenith]

You’ll probably be able to find it in the forum thread

[ornate zenith]

#1191023338676568104

[worn gull]

HAPPY SAVIORS MONTH

[oblique sky]

Also trending on Twitter

Helluva start

[sacred bone]

Most is people talking about people realizing its about them. Or i curated my feed well.

[plush warren]

Lmao legends

[last glen]

im surprised theyre surprised

[subtle ravine]

It happens all the damn time it's really funny

[brisk pumice]

So what did they play

No new songs?

Wtf

Was that something different or am I stupid

I thought they’d have a longer set rip

Glad I didnt stay up for that geez

[fierce trout]

They played more songs than everyone else lol

Everyone else just got one song pretty much

[brisk pumice]

Oh okay

[eager swan]

Hahaha new album out in two weeks

[forest crag]

Anyone have clips of dilemma live???

Nvm dilemma was Al done in post

Not really live tbh

[subtle ravine]

Wdym

[forest crag]

Show was prerecorded, done live several times and then mixed using parts of different takes

I guess they didn't want an Amazon live incident were the mix was dogshit

[subtle ravine]

I knew they were gonna pre record it but mixing it that way is lame

[forest crag]

It's all for show

[subtle ravine]

Speaking of

I've noticed that in the most recent live shows Billie has been singing way closer to how he does in studio

[ornate zenith]

May as well do all that stuff in post if you’re already gonna prerecord since it’s not a live broadcast anyway. Bands do stuff like that on live albums too after all so I don’t have a problem with it myself

[worn gull]

If it ain't live they shouldn't call it live

It's just a concert

[indigo spruce]

Is there any evidence for this or is it just an assumption?

[rancid arch]

Billie was performing with the Coverups last night.

[worn gull]

They had disclaimers saying the performances were pre-recorded too

If it wasn't on the small stage in Times Square, then it was recorded ahead of time

[rancid arch]

ONE EYE

ONE EYE

Bada bing moment:

[worn gull]

One Eyed Bastard on Wednesday maybe??

What day did the other singles come out?

[deft violet]

That's basically confirmation

[plush warren]

DUDE LETS GO

IM HYPED FOR THE UPDATED VERSION

[rancid arch]

👁️

Let’s not get too ahead of ourselves, we don’t know for sure that it’s been changed significantly.

[worn gull]

I hope it's the exact same song but with louder hand claps

[subtle ravine]

It's fine by me if it wasn't

I just know that it will sound miles better with Rob's production

[plush warren]

It hasn’t, but I’m excited for the new production

[subtle ravine]

It's wild that after all 1981 wasn't a single

[rancid arch]

Not really.

Horseshoes and Handgrenades and a bunch of trilogy songs weren’t either.

[subtle ravine]

Uno was the only album from the trilogy to get multiple singles, right?

[obsidian harbor]

I think it’ll sound good

[ornate zenith]

Turns out most Green Day songs weren’t singles

[last glen]

i mean even the old version sounded single worthy to me

[sacred bone]

most people probably dont know about the leak. The only version i found of it on yt was a cover.

[eager swan]

Where did you see this?

[obsidian harbor]

It is on practically every social media of theirs

[sacred bone]

#band-news

[eager swan]

Ohh

OEB was unexpected

I thought for sure it was gona be Father to a son

[last glen]

To me it makes sense as A, an old version of it was already leaked, and B, more stuff we haven't already heard will be saved for the album drop itself

I was fully expecting the 4th single to either be OEB or 1981

[bronze swan]

I’d prefer 1981 tbh

Just because we heard a more clear version

I think

All the recordings I have heard of OEB are bad

[hearty solar]

I’ve heard the actual recording that isn’t edited with tons of reverb and echo, or do you just mean that you think the song is bad?

[fierce trout]

Ew OEB

[hearty solar]

You’ve got the worst opinions here

[fierce trout]

No that’s @static flint

[hearty solar]

OEB is a great song

[fierce trout]

OEB just sounds like so what by pink

[hearty solar]

Yeah but it’s Green Day and the only thing that sounds like that is the guitar

[fierce trout]

no hate it’s just the truth 😔

[hearty solar]

it’s not like it’s just a cover of like so what

[fierce trout]

It’s too poppy

[hearty solar]

💀

[fierce trout]

I don’t like what i heard of it

I liked all the other singles

[hearty solar]

You’re strange

[fierce trout]

How

I just don’t like what I heard of it

If they change it in a way that i like it then ill change my mind

[bronze swan]

I’ve heard the edits

[bronze swan]

Same band that wrote Nuclear Family

And Kill the DJ

[deft violet]

When do singles usually release ? On Wednesday ?

[hearty solar]

Dilemma released on a Thursday I think

[deft violet]

Oh so it can be any day

[tired shale]

OEB is such a good song!

Glad it's the last single, so excited to hear the final version

[eager swan]

OEB and so what by pink does sound similar but they're not identical.
There's another song by Deep purple which sounds similar too

[deft violet]

OEB is a big meh but some little changes can make it VERY good.
Based on what we heard so far from the album I have faith. It needs harsher guitar, louder drums and angrier vocals.

That's what we got so far from the other singles so I'm sure the final version will be great.

Imagine Dilemma with FOAM production, it would be boring.

[bronze swan]

I agree honestly my biggest complaint with TADIKM and Look Ma is the effect on Bullies Vocals

It sounds like a tin can kind of or too much treble

[brisk pumice]

I feel like OEB is gonna be the one that’ll grow on me over time

I’m probs gonna listen to it loads during softball season as a hype song otherwise idrk

[subtle ravine]

I don't really get this complaint when Warning sounds just like Picture Book by The Kinks and no one says anything about that lol

[worn gull]

Bullie Joe Strongarm

[eager swan]

Boggie woe Dickweak

[worn gull]

green day trending on twitter for calling out the MAGA movement, we are so fucking back

[fierce trout]

The difference is that that song is good and so what is not

Idrc if they got inspiration from something but I just don’t like how it sounds

[abstract grove]

you guys think the pink guitar riff will change for OEB or be basically the exact same thing with better production?

for some reason i think they basically leave it the same.

[deft violet]

No way they change the riff, that's the main shtick of the song

Same song, better production

[plush warren]

I like both songs lol

LMAO

[ornate zenith]

Have you guys even listened to So What because even the riff is a bit different from the So What melody

And that’s the only similarity

[fierce trout]

I just think it doesn’t sound good in general i just don’t like the melody of the song at all

[ornate zenith]

That’s fair but that’s pretty different than the So What comparison “criticism”

Just say you don’t like it instead of reaching

OEB and So What have practically nothing in common and that’s always just felt like people desperate for a “they’re too pop” thing

Warning is closer to Picture Book than One Eyed Bastard is to So What

[fierce trout]

Idk it sounds similar to So What to me

[abstract grove]

I seem to be in the minority (no pun intended). I love OEB. I love the melody. Kind of reminds me of early Offspring

[fierce trout]

I liked all their other singles for this album but OEB is just too poppy for me

But maybe I’ll change my mind once i hear the official released version

[ornate zenith]

OEB has so much of that pounding heavy guitar that I’m a little mystified by the poppy observation. I can never tell what people mean when they call a song poppy anyway though

IMO One Eyed Bastard sounds about as much like, or maybe even less like So What as The American Dream is Killing Me does

Watch it sound way different anyhow, that leak is years old

But that one riff is hardly the defining characteristic of the song

[subtle ravine]

I was just listening to both to compare and while they are kinda similar it's not enough for me to care lol

Plus, the songs are completely different after that so whatever lmao