Saviors Discussion

[keen pewter]

they haven’t promoted it at all

[eager swan]

Yeah a little weird they released LMNB just a week later after they released TADIKM..
Fk yeah this makes me think there are more amazing songs on the album

[last glen]

sold out

[obsidian harbor]

Goddamn my brain not let me do a simple task

I wish I got it

But ordering something is a demanding task

[last glen]

I got the galaxy one 😎

[obsidian harbor]

Hype

[last glen]

i ordered it the second i saw it too, didnt know it was limited to 2000 at the time

just looked the coolest

[worn gull]

my balls itch

[brisk pumice]

All they want is swedish songwriters and features smh

[jolly zealot]

Yo Nightlife is fire tbfh

[celest hawk]

Same, my eyes immediately were drawn to it 😵‍💫

[plush warren]

Fr

[jolly zealot]

Legit

[plush warren]

Yeah

I like that song

[eager swan]

What do you guys think will be the next single?
I choose "Father to a son"

I am guessing they might put it out by first week of December

[plush warren]

I feel like 1981 is still gonna be the next single

[eager swan]

When did he say what?

[obsidian harbor]

Yep

[brisk pumice]

God, I hope so

Need a mastered audio to listen to

[brisk pumice]

I doubt that, they never played it live and they did 1981

That song is just building mad hype for the album, I don’t think we’ll get any leaks of it

[celest hawk]

Not to mention the 1981 reference within TADIKM music video.

[ornate zenith]

Isn’t that a band

[brisk pumice]

No it’s not?

Ohhhs deathwish kids among the livingggg

Interesting it never occurred to me it was a phrase until now for some reason

[eager swan]

Rusty James was so terrible i didn't even bother to look at the lyrics

[ornate zenith]

The songs title and lyrics are all a direct reference to the book Rumble Fish I dunno what’s the terrible about it

Read a book smh

I’ve always that it was one of the stronger songs lyrically from the trilogy lol

[obsidian harbor]

The chorus sounds a bit too close to I Was There to me

[ornate zenith]

Rusty James | Basket Case | The American Dream is Killing Me
🤝 🤝 🤝
Canon in D chord progression

[worn gull]

the fact this hasnt hit a million views yet hurts TvT
https://youtu.be/jH3wmjaoADY?si=KI6YTf8TTg4keJZp

indie rock band ass numbers

[knotty crow]

there wasn’t much promotion i don’t think

and green day just isn’t as popular as they once were

to the general public

[ornate zenith]

I think it's mostly due to tadikm getting all the promo. That one took off

Look ma no brains isn't even charting or anything while american dream is at #2 on rock airplay

[fierce trout]

It’s joever for Green Day ☹️

[ornate zenith]

I think it's on pace to overtake one more time by blink

Equally promoting two single releases that are a week apart doesn't really make sense marketing-wise I think

It's not gonna get substantial airplay and views without promotion. That's why all the trilogy stuff tanked after iheartradio despite oh love being a hot 100 single, they basically stopped promoting it

Even with a huge following

[worn gull]

Pachelbel is rock n rolling in his grave lol

[knotty crow]

i forgot green day was doing the grey cup

[hallow creek]

I like how they added mountains to the background considering neither team playing has mountains in or near their city and Hamilton also does not have mountains

[knotty crow]

lmao yeah

[ornate zenith]

Nothing says “hockey” like mountains

Wait fuck

It’s not even hockey

[knotty crow]

nothing says "football with three downs instead of four" like mountains

[keen pewter]

it’s not fucking hockey!?

why did I think it was hockey this whole@time

I even knew it was football and still assumed it was hockey

[ornate zenith]

Canada

[bold relic]

unless they promote it as something like a double a-side singles which they dont

[obsidian harbor]

Would’ve done a whole lot better if they released both at once

[ornate zenith]

TADIKM probably wouldn't be doing nearly as well if they'd just dropped both at the same time with equal promo

[rancid arch]

I think Strange Days are Here to Stay will be the third single.

[pine jasper]

It'd be cool if it was a callback to Dirty Rotten Bastards and the lyrics were something like:

Calling all saviors
I need a favor
Strange days are here again
Truth is getting clearer
And it's getting weirder
On whom could we all depend

[obsidian harbor]

Not even a song, also likely it will be 1981 from the fact they’ve been playing it

[eager swan]

It's a really cool song title

[rancid arch]

Lyrics seem dope.

||“Ever since Bowie died / It hasn’t been the same / All the madmen going mental / Grandma’s on the fentanyl now / Strange days are here to stay”||

[azure helm]

save it for january man

[ornate zenith]

Spoiler tag unreleased lyrics pls

[lofty yacht]

SPOILER THATTTT

[quiet berry]

because thats what happens when you eat taco bell

[lofty yacht]

https://www.ispot.tv/ad/5z3H/taco-bell-5-cravings-box-house-party-song-by-green-day?msg=song

[obsidian harbor]

No shot

[obsidian harbor]

Doesn’t say anything about specific songs

[fierce trout]

Click the video

[obsidian harbor]

Oh sorry didn’t know that the video was playable thought it was just a thumbnail

[pine jasper]

Look Ma, I ain't got no bowels
I ate a taco and now the bathroom smells

[slow crest]

Should’ve used the “sick boy and I shit the bed” line

[slow crest]

Damn lol

[eager swan]

THaNks FOr sPOiLing. NoW I cAn't eNjOy tHe SoNg aNymORe

[obsidian harbor]

It is kind of a dumb take ngl

I still think posting lyrics is kinda ehhh but it’s definitely nothing to get worked up about it

[fierce trout]

What are you even talking about

[rancid arch]

Ok, I’m fairly convinced that OEB was reworked now given that the first ever 2021 teaser for LMNB had the same exact synths as the leaked demo.

[eager swan]

?

[jolly zealot]

?

[plush warren]

?

[lofty yacht]

?

[brisk pumice]

Those are lyrics

[brisk pumice]

Lmao I’m so surprised this ad got signed off and the client didn’t say “oh it puts Taco Bell in a negative light because it’s saying our customers are brainless”

I’m all for using their music in ads but this one doesnt fit at all😂 it feels so out of place

[knotty crow]

the pizza question 💀

of course tre is an anchovy guy

i wouldn't expect anything else

wow this is hard to watch though honestly, pretty awkward interview

[brisk pumice]

I thought I was the only one thinking this lmao

[fierce trout]

???

Why do you say the strangest things

I didn’t think the interview was awkward at all

Yeah I was just responding to other people saying it was awkward after I watched it in full

[jolly zealot]

you are racist

[indigo spruce]

Dude what they need is someone who actually knows a bit of their work, and that's the only qualifying factor. It's not a race thing

[wispy flicker]

alienvisitor. has been warned. || racist comment about interviewers

[worn gull]

You could have just not said this

[brisk pumice]

Look ma, no brains!

[keen pewter]

what a strange thing to say

[obsidian harbor]

Crazy that you typed this out, thought “this is gonna be funny” and then sent it

[knotty crow]

bro who the fuck says this 😭

[subtle ravine]

Where did you find this?

[rancid arch]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-big-chin-gif-25301755

[subtle ravine]

It looks cool

[last glen]

https://twitter.com/GreenDay/status/1726317927841083866

there

[subtle ravine]

Also that interview was so awkward LMAO

I couldn't watch it in full lol

[subtle ravine]

Thx

[indigo spruce]

"Can I copy your homework?" "Sure, but don't make it look too obvious..."

[plush warren]

Lmao yeah it reminded me of OMT too

Thankfully it’s just the back

But it’s funny that both bands have a pink and black and white theme with their new albums

[last glen]

Coincidence?

Either way it's hilarious

[brisk pumice]

Oml just noticed

[rancid arch]

What did they do to you Billie!?

[brisk pumice]

Made him hot

[simple oxide]

curious, why does it still say reprise records at the bottom? didn't they end their deal with them?

[barren plinth]

they signed a new contract

[obsidian harbor]

Reprise is on for distribution

[worn gull]

This back cover goes hard

Im crying it looks like an indie post punk album cover a la Interpol

This is what their last album's back cover looked like for comparison

[last glen]

i actually really like foam's back cover ngl

[brisk pumice]

It matches the minimalism of the front same way the FOAM covers were more eclectic and maximalist

[pine jasper]

That's what I was thinking. Looks like some record you'd find that no one has heard of that will either be complete shit or a hidden masterpiece

[subtle ravine]

And they keep doing it

[worn gull]

I prefer him with blonde hair

[subtle ravine]

Fr blonde Billie fucks

I'm glad he has kept it blonde for most of the year

By now he would've dyed it black

[brisk pumice]

I miss black hair floof though

[forest crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzE8kwgtgKQ&ab_channel=FantômaswParyżu

damm this live recording sounds soooo epic

[obsidian harbor]

The crowd is the best part

[indigo spruce]

His manic laugh at the end

Gosh I wish I could've been there in the crowd

[thorny harbor]

Someone know about the song called "One Eyed Bastard"

?

[lofty yacht]

the song called "One Eyed Bastard" LOL

[thorny harbor]

It was supposed to be a song for father of all

[lofty yacht]

No

That is wrong

It was recoded after that

[ornate zenith]

It is supposed to be a song for Saviors

[eager swan]

That's cool.. but doesn't it look like they copied from blink??

Of course it's a matter of question who finished the album first

[obsidian harbor]

Sees a photo in black and white
“They copied blink”

[forest crag]

i think its obvious that its not cause its black and white lmao, its clear that they have similarities but i doubt its an actual copy

[abstract grove]

any word on when the next single will hit?

[forest crag]

i mean, knowing that in 2 months the album drops im guessing that we are getting a new single next month

maybe within 3 weeks

[obsidian harbor]

Likely early December

Mid December may be too close to Christmas

And Christmas Day would be overshadowed

[forest crag]

knowing that its a 15 track album im sure we are getting more singles before the album drops

and with so little time maybe we are going to get something similar to the first singles

maybe they will release 4 singles or 5????? i hopee

kinda like blink did

[ornate zenith]

Probably like

3

[plush warren]

I’m thinking 3 too

[obsidian harbor]

I was thinking probably 4

Maybe we’ll get one a week or so before release

Probably early December then a few days after new years

[ornate zenith]

Max of 4 but maybe only 3 is my prediction

One next month and then another like a week before release wouldn’t surprise me

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah I think that would be nice

But I also wouldn’t be surprised if we got a single one in mid December

[hallow creek]

The concept of a single is confusing now in the streaming age but I’d predict one more traditional single - like TADIKM (promoted to radio) - and one or two more promo singles like Look Ma

[ornate zenith]

I miss the old way

Lead single, album drops, few more singles over the next year or whatever

[hallow creek]

They only get “album sales” now from streaming so it makes more sense to continue to drop promo singles. I also miss the old way, now once the album is out singles just stop basically

[ornate zenith]

Also no single art

TADIKM just having the saviors cover

Sad

[obsidian harbor]

The biggest loss ngl

[worn gull]

I actually don't understand that, like why buy a single when you already have the album with that same song already on it?

[ornate zenith]

Well the single isn't really meant for people to go out and buy it individually in that case, it's for promo

Only reason to buy a single would be if it had a B-side that wasn't on the album

Besides collecting

[brisk pumice]

It's unlikely that they copied, these things get made well in advance – it's just a coincidence

I mean technically you got single art from their secret show in vegas, with those zombie posters, no?

i get what you mean though

[ornate zenith]

I mean like this

[brisk pumice]

yeah, gotcha

[brisk pumice]

Woh TADIKM sounded rough at the halftime show

[rancid arch]

It sounded better on personal recordings.

[obsidian harbor]

American Idiot Part 2 was FOAM as we all know

[ornate zenith]

I hope they didn’t try to make AI part 2 because then it probably sucks

[azure helm]

how would they make an american idiot 2 is all im asking

[fierce trout]

21st century breakdown

[knotty crow]

well they would make an album and call it american idiot 2

[azure helm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

i dont believe it one bit

[azure helm]

shout out to this guy

bro was lost and confused

[fierce trout]

💀

[plush warren]

Should’ve been the official cover 😢😢😢

[obsidian harbor]

I would have died 💔

[worn gull]

Not sure how they would, but I have two concepts in my head for American Idiot 2:

1. Whatsername: more like American Idiot 1.5 since it's just the story of American Idiot from Whatsername's perspective

2. The Christian Reich/Suburbia of Jesus: (two different titles because I can't decide) a continuation of American Idiot's story where St Jimmy grows up and becomes a conservative preacher, but the lyrics (despite being from his POV) clearly paint his new conservative values as evil. This album can also serve as a segue between and by having St Jimmy become part of the oppressive establishment that gets overthrown in 21CB

I also have a concept for 21st Century Breakdown 2:
Daughter of the Revolution: after overthrowing the government, Christian and Gloria settle down and have a daughter. Their daughter is a lesbian. Also, Christian and Gloria are T4T because why not

[worn gull]

You've spent too much time on ChatGPT

[knotty crow]

yeah i was gonna say it reads exactly like something chatgpt would spit out

[celest hawk]

Or they could just not do that 🙂

[worn gull]

Not kidding here, but I've barely ever even touched ChatGPT

[worn gull]

I get that a lot, I had to do some essays for college last semester and all three got rejected by three separate plagiarism checkers each for being "written with AI". According to my lecturer, it was because I write "without soul". Well, if someone can teach me with how to write "with soul", that'd be awfully nice.

[worn gull]

It's an undercooked concept, but that's what I've thought of
Just treat it as a brain fart then

[ornate zenith]

Whatsername perspective of AI, like Midnight Sun but Green Day

[obsidian harbor]

Lion king 1 1/2

[worn gull]

What's Midnight Sun

[ornate zenith]

Twilight written from Edward’s perspective

[worn gull]

Ok but what's Twilight? Cuz I'm pretty sure you're not talking about a purple pony princess

[ornate zenith]

A very famous and popular book (and series) from the 2000s that got adapted into a very famous and popular film series

[azure helm]

yeah

sure

[worn gull]

Oh ok

[azure helm]

crazy how christian hated gloria by murder city (and probably lost her by restless heart)mbut i guess they fucked after see the light or something according to 21cb 2

and that daughter was is the girl from youngblood

(was is how did i fuck that up badly)

[worn gull]

Well, that's one way to interpret it I guess

I'm getting my information on the story from some website I saw earlier this year

It basically said that "See the Light" was Christian and Gloria's happy ending after all the war, all the drugs, and all the heartbreak

That's why they're happily married with a daughter (the titular Daughter of the Revolution, with the Revolution being Christian and Gloria) in my 21CB 2 concept

[worn gull]

@azure helm I found it, turns out it was on GreenDay.fm

https://greenday.fm/band/archive/the-story-of-21st-century-breakdown

There's one for American Idiot too if you're interested

https://greenday.fm/band/archive/the-story-of-american-idiot/

My understanding of both albums' stories is based off of GreenDay.fm, so do with that information what you will

[rancid arch]

I interpreted See the Light to be about them both dying lol

[obsidian harbor]

https://youtu.be/Etup44mqGeI?si=iNqrqbzAeXQl8jcB

[forest crag]

anyone interested in listening my mix or new version of the 1981 cover that jonathan legaspi uploaded on yt??

he sent me the stems and i started playing around

can i upload the file here? or is it best through dms?

its up

[plush warren]

Just heard it, sounds great

[eager swan]

No but you can dm me the full saviors album

[obsidian harbor]

If only it leaked 💔

[knotty crow]

what was the earliest leak of a green day album

typically if an album leaks it's like a week or two before right

yeah i thought the same, didn't warning leak like a month before the album was released or something

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah it was a month

If it leaks within a few weeks I could survive

But if it was something like warning I might die of anticipation before I listened to it

Or cave in

[eager swan]

But the internet was'nt fully utilised back then, so I think it didn't matter if warning leaked early as only a handful of people could have got it

[knotty crow]

definitely not true

[ornate zenith]

It’s not like it was 1992

Internet access was pretty widespread in 2000

I think revrad leaked like a day or two before that’s probably all that’ll happen at worst

Same with foam I think?

[knotty crow]

yeah i listened to the foam leak

was two or three days before release pretty sure

i actually don't know how it gets leaked

i just remember someone sending it to me

so i listened to it

[eager swan]

I actually listened to foam a week before the release.. but the quality was crap since someone recorded it on a phone

[forest crag]

i listened to revrad like a week or more before release

[forest crag]

it was all mono in my case

[eager swan]

Didn't blink put out a bunch of songs before they released the album??
I think Green day will follow the same route

[forest crag]

yeah

maybe less

[eager swan]

I am dying for a new song

[forest crag]

but from the tracklist

i guess they will release more singles

[worn gull]

What do yall think the next single might be

There'll def be one next month. What song will it be tho

My bets are on Father to a Son

[brisk pumice]

1981 100%

[worn gull]

There's no way 1981 isn't gonna be a single, all the other songs with pre-release live debuts so far have already been released as singles

[obsidian harbor]

It would be kinda dumb if it wasn’t 198

[lofty yacht]

1981

There is no way it would not be 1981

[rancid arch]

1981 or Strange Days are Here to Stay.

[obsidian harbor]

1981 early December
Another single super early January

That’s my estimate

It would be cool if we got title track right before the album came out but Probabky not extremely likely

[subtle ravine]

I'll be happy with three singles

[pulsar egret]

dont know if anyone has posted this yet

https://youtu.be/hsW2q5hBRx8?si=ISHPdLfT24xY5QVr

share it with your friends

[knotty crow]

i still don’t get the song choice

taco bell out here saying their customers are brainless

[rancid arch]

“Sick boy and I ____ the bed.

[pulsar egret]

“Sick boy and I hump the bed”

[plush warren]

I JUST SAW IT ON TV LMAO

[obsidian harbor]

My dad texted me when he saw it

[jolly zealot]

W dad

[eager swan]

What's your guys fav song from Saviors that you've never heard?

[lofty yacht]

1981

[obsidian harbor]

Dilemma

[fierce trout]

Fancy sauce is the correct answer

[obsidian harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/die-just-die-gif-23172530

[subtle ravine]

man I already really like One Eyed Bastard but I cannot wait to hear it with Rob's production, it's gonna be so much better

[eager swan]

OEB could be robs production I think.
I mean the current one doesn't feel like a Butch walkers production

[jolly zealot]

itll prolly be a lil different

[ornate zenith]

99% sure that the leaked OEB is not produced by cavallo

Pretty sure it was recorded before they started working with him again

[rancid arch]

It has the same synths as the pre-Cavallo version of LMNB (teaser 1).

[rancid arch]

I think Holy Toledo! had them as well.

[ornate zenith]

It may not be butch walker, but it’s definitely not rob cavallo

[subtle ravine]

it was most likely self produced then, like with Revrad as a whole

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah I thought it was just self produced

[ornate zenith]

Mixed by Chris Dugan I think but self produced otherwise makes sense

[obsidian harbor]

I’ve done it.

Still revising some of the lyrics making sure they sound and flow well but the idea is there

[plush warren]

Lmao that’s great

[obsidian harbor]

I had to listen to all the duck songs to get inspiration

[worn gull]

Please post it here when you're done lol

[obsidian harbor]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PPALenWxR2xEFpXTfpsnyrPdqjuR8MERqxS01j3A9Y/edit

Still working on it a bit but it’s funny

[knotty crow]

incredible

[plush warren]

LMAO

[last glen]

That is ART, Bravo!

[obsidian harbor]

In honor of the new duck song being released

[knotty crow]

yeah it's a christmas song

it's actually quite funny

[obsidian harbor]

I didn’t know the duck was chill with Santa

[eager swan]

Bada bing bada bing bong

[worn gull]

GENIUS

[keen pewter]

hot take saviors is an underrated album

[knotty crow]

i think it's just the tiniest bit overrated

if fancy sauce wasn't overplayed to death i think i would like that song more especially

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah title track would’ve been better without the insane promotion it had

1981 overrated though

[eager swan]

Father to a son is overrated..
Fancy sauce and Bobby sox the best song on the album. Hands down

[indigo spruce]

I liked the hidden track the most

[brisk pumice]

I LOVE THIS

[worn gull]

you're talking like it's already been released

[worn gull]

it hasn't even been released

[worn gull]

it hasn't even been released yet

[worn gull]

wym it hasn't even been released

[worn gull]

That's the joke

[eager swan]

Oh yeah it's pretty much released. Its released in jan 19

[brisk pumice]

Woosh

[worn gull]

Which is still over a month from now

Calm down

[ornate zenith]

Woooosh af

[indigo spruce]

Woooooooooooooooosh

[keen pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-missed-over-your-head-gif-8604199

[worn gull]

Ok come on now, I'm way uglier than that

[brisk pumice]

This has been the most aggressive woosh I’ve ever seen

[azure helm]

bro hates fun

bro is a grinch

"there will be no jolly this coming december" said discord user its not over before itstoolate

[obsidian harbor]

That would be cool

I still think 1981 makes too much sense given the promotion but maybe

[keen pewter]

I honestly think 1981 would suck as a single

[obsidian harbor]

It would I agree but feels like that’s what it’s revving up for

[subtle ravine]

I think it's super catchy personally and as such I feel like it works perfectly as a single

[eager swan]

They have more Success with Ballads.
Few examples being BOBD, WMUWSE, 21Guns. These are super popular in my country and Oh love too, although it's not a ballad.
I think they have more popularity with slower tempo songs

And I don't know if you guys have seen the latest interview, where they mentioned Father to son is a song that was slowly evolved to a bigger song. So yeah I'm looking forward to this particular song

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah maybe they’ll do father to a son as a third single and then do 1981 as a fourth single a week or so before release

[eager swan]

I believe they'll release 1981 a week before they drop the album just to keep the hype going

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah that’s what I’m leaning towards

I hope we get father to a son in December

[eager swan]

Pretty sure we will.
It's about to be a month since we got LMNB

[deft violet]

Any day now tbh

I expect an announcement this week and new single next week

When's their next show btw

[eager swan]

If they're gona release a new single then it got to be on the 1st-2nd week of December, cus it'll be weird to release a single around Christmas.

[devout nymph]

honestly I wish they would scrap this album for FOAM pt. II

[deft violet]

You mean American Idiot pt. III

FOAM is my most listened to album btw

[worn gull]

What website is that from

[deft violet]

last.fm

[ornate zenith]

It's charting higher on some of the rock and alternative airplay charts than Bang Bang peaked at

Bang Bang nearly made the hot 100 though so I'm not sure if it counts as doing better overall

Will probably need the year-end charts to judge that

Correction I'm kinda wrong on the bang bang chart positions

TADIKM and Bang Bang both hit #1 on the rock and alternative airplay charts but I think so far TADIKM hasn't caught up on the rock and alternative songs chart so maybe it will

If I paid billboard money to see the current chart positions I could tell you, going off of week old data

Kinda hard to track down the premium ones

[pine jasper]

He's just a Grinch sitting on the bench. He hates Christmas, so fuck Whos.

[ornate zenith]

I listened to a bunch of those last night including that one

Some are not so great

That one rules

Basically any of the Insomniac and AI mixes rule

[eager swan]

Not bad

Did LMNB enter the charts? I was hoping it would

[fierce trout]

Look ma no charts sadge

[obsidian harbor]

I said look ma, I ain’t on no charts

[eager swan]

I'm a banger, but I don't feel no charts

[brisk pumice]

I think i listen to LMNB more than I do to TADIKM

[plush warren]

I sound good, but im underrated

[deft violet]

The 'Cigarettes and Valentines' American Idiot Mix is awesome

[eager swan]

Good news ,
Apparently the feelas are shooting a new music video

[slow crest]

Our boys are back

[brisk pumice]

OOH ITS OUT ITS OUT

I CANT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON THIS OMFG

Almost didnt see the kerrang there

[indigo spruce]

Mike always has such concerned looking eyebrows

[fierce trout]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C0RqdfONAwJ/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

greendayinc

Amazing interview about Saviors #greenday
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Scans by @greendayinc

Instagram

[brisk pumice]

I think so, there usually is

I dont get people who say they had plastic surgery

@worn gull

Saw this on insta

[indigo spruce]

Lol I did not expect finding out how tre cool got the nipple tassels in the first 1972 teaser

[knotty crow]

that was a great read

i’m really looking forward to saviors

the band seem super pumped about it, way more so than father of all

[static flint]

actually tbf it does sound like a demo for graffiti’s

[indigo spruce]

OMG that fanzine has to see the light of day, it sounds so cool!

[static flint]

it’s already been posted here?

that’s what people said about OEB🤷‍♀️

also we definitely do

#greenday-chat message

it’s been mentioned many times lmao

[keen pewter]

yeah postings leaks is a big nono

great way to get the server taken down

[ornate zenith]

It's definitely against the rules

Missed that one, we try to watch out for it, need people to report it in case we don't catch it

But that one from GD chat is gone now too

[obsidian harbor]

Also we know OEB was recorded after FOAM came out

I like what they mentioned about coma city in the article

Sounds like it’s gonna be good

[plush warren]

I’m so excited for this album

[obsidian harbor]

The Green Day leak account said father to a son is coming

[last glen]

That's one of the ones I'm most excited for so that's awesome to hear if it's true

[knotty crow]

also lines up with the rumblings that they filmed a music video recently

so that must be what it's for

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah I think early December is probably when

[knotty crow]

probably next week

[plush warren]

I’d be careful believing that account, the only thing they knew before everyone else was the album title

Everything else they’ve said either hasn’t been accurate or has already been known

Like they said it was coming January 12th and that wasn’t right

[knotty crow]

they probably changed the release date for some inexplicable reason

it happens

i think that info was reported by more than just the one account

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah that info was

Iirc the specific account I’m talking about also predicted 3 singles this year and one next year which seems to be the direction it’s heading. Also knew that promotion of the album would start after September. They have been wrong about a lot so I’m not taking any of this info with a lot of weight

[knotty crow]

yeah that's pretty common

they did that with revrad, title track was released as a single about 6-7 months after the album dropped

yeah this album has had some great promo

i do hope it finds a wider audience than what happened with foam

right

the "what would tarantino do" shit is cringe

but other than that it's been good so far

[eager swan]

Coma city and Goodnight Adeline

[subtle ravine]

What did they say?

[obsidian harbor]

Described as there being a free form “controlled chaos” on the drums at the end of coma city

As shown in the messages above, Tre was praised for his drumming on coma city, Mike was praised for his bass on goodnight Adeline, and Billie was praised for his lyricism on dilemma

[indigo spruce]

I'm a bit afraid of the doo-wop sound, we had to much of that on foanf already in my opinion

[deft violet]

I just discovered the Damn Juvenile Delinquents snippet and it sounds really fun. I already love FOAM but if it had those scrapped songs in it would have been a favorite of mine.

Maybe they haven't been used in MM2020partII because they want to reuse it for this album

[indigo spruce]

They both lack the energy I need from green day, there more like chill beats to vibe and drink booze to than songs for rebels who wanna burn down cities

[eager swan]

M glad they ditched those two songs

[brisk pumice]

I feel so happy for them ☺️ there’s a huge difference in their tone of voice from their last interview with Kerrang for the Hella Mega Tour; it was like… erratic almost, forcing you to be like “I guess I’ll trust this”… idk how to better express it, they just seem more radiantly confident

[obsidian harbor]

The sound was not the bad part about foam, it was the production that made foam bad

[ornate zenith]

How are you distinguishing between "sound" and "production"

[indigo spruce]

I need less 50s music and more punk rock from green day

[obsidian harbor]

Sorry I meant the style rather than the sound

[indigo spruce]

That's what the hottubs are for

[subtle ravine]

I'm with you on this one fr

[subtle ravine]

I completely get where ur coming from, but I think the sound goes well with Billie's voice and the kinda vocal stuff he's been trying to do as of late. Having said that, I wouldn't like if the whole album was like that, one or even two songs would be enough

[lost crag]

I finally read it

Really liked the article

[eager swan]

I really am itching

For a damn single

Btw happy 1 month anniversary to Look ma no brains!!

[plush warren]

Bruh it’s only been a month lol

But yeah I’m super hyped for the next one

[ornate zenith]

Happy one week anniversary to the three week anniverary of Look Ma, No Brains

[jolly zealot]

lol

[pine jasper]

Happy one week anniversary to the one week anniversary to the one week anniversary to the one week anniversary of Look Ma, No Brains

[rancid arch]

Looks like Dilemma might be the next single.

[indigo spruce]

Didn't see that one coming

[obsidian harbor]

It’s cool that we have so much conflicting information on the next single

I’ve been intrigued with the title dilemma and so that’s been one of my more anticipated tracks

Would be cool to see

[knotty crow]

yeah i was wondering if it was gonna be father to a son or 1981

dilemma is totally unexpected

i’m surprised it wasn’t father to a son because they singled out that song along with tadikm and look ma no brains in the album description

[ornate zenith]

I heard girth matters more than length

[hearty solar]

👍

[last glen]

Didn't think it would be dilemma lol but hey that's a nice surprise! I'm actually glad it's not 1981 because we've heard that before

[obsidian harbor]

No shot

But I mean they’ve done it before

Last time they did it because they had their beat saber pack I believe

[eager swan]

I am actually quite surprised by this, I was pretty sure Father to son was the next single

[knotty crow]

me too

i thought the same thing

[eager swan]

First two singles have the word "suicide".
I wouldn't be surprised if dilemma have it too

[plush warren]

Omg yeah that would be really cool if it is dilemma

[worn gull]

Every song on the album should have the word "suicide" for good measure

Maybe they can even namedrop the Suicide Squad while theyre at it

[bold relic]

might just call the album "suicide" now

[pine jasper]

I'm actually a bit disappointed with the limited selection of songs on their Beat Saber pack. Only a few songs from American Idiot, Father Of All, and one song from Warning. Linkin Park had a nice big selection from many of their albums. Wtf Beat Saber?

[deft violet]

You guys think Dilemma is a ballad ?

[subtle ravine]

Not at all

Based on how the track has been described it doesn't seem like it is

[eager swan]

Rumours has it that the song will be used for a game trailer, but i call it bullshit. Why would they use a song about alcohol and drug addiction for a game trailer anyway

[worn gull]

Where did you hear this rumor?

[indigo spruce]

...have you seen in which ad they used lmnb as a soundtrack?

[lofty yacht]

3 words Taco Bell Add

[deft violet]

We only got a description of the lyrics not the sound.

[desert crow]

It ended up being a Radiohead song

[last glen]

Still, I can't imagine we're far off from the 3rd single.

[deft violet]

I'd see one week at most

[last glen]

Could be any day now really, especially if it's showing up on streaming services grayed out

[last glen]

Yeah a week or two makes sense

And then I can totally see them releasing a 4th single (Almost certainly 1981) a week or so before the album comes out next month as a promotional single, similar to Look Ma

[obsidian harbor]

I think they’ll probably build up hype anytime this week and release it sometime next week

[pulsar egret]

All of them

[plush warren]

^^

[obsidian harbor]

I was about to ask too

[worn gull]

https://fxtwitter.com/GreenDay/status/1731824796411838639?t=KZCj1hbsb9p5kWfCadeZCg&s=19

Dilemma is the next single

[obsidian harbor]

YOOOOOO

[knotty crow]

huge

[last glen]

WAIT WHAT

That's so soon!

[knotty crow]

not a long wait at all

i'm hyped

[plush warren]

LETS GOOOO

[brisk pumice]

SCREAMINGGGF

[rancid arch]

So it looks like the “Strange days are here again and it’s getting weirder” IS a lyric in the third single, just not for the song I was expecting lol.

[brisk pumice]

My fave highlight is “welcome to my problems, this is not an invitation”

Idk I find that so funny and sad and relatable at the same time

[ornate zenith]

Where does it say that

I don’t see

[knotty crow]

that was one of the lyric snippets from that now-deleted article

[brisk pumice]

I read that in the Kerrang interview

[brisk pumice]

But it was there too

[subtle ravine]

YO WTF THIS SOON?

I WAS EXPECTING IT LIKE A WEEK FROM NOW

[deft violet]

Sounds like a party song ! I was expected some power ballad but I doubt it reading the text.

[eager swan]

Why are they making it seem like it's a Christmas song?
And again this is very surprising considering the hype around Father to a son

[azure helm]

dilemma is going to be a song about questioning whether to be naughty or nice for this jolly season

(source: uhhhh tre)

[eager swan]

I can confirm, dilemma is a Christmas song 🎄🎁

[obsidian harbor]

The dilemma they run into is that they got coal in their stocking

[eager swan]

And no candies from Santa

[brisk pumice]

I reckon it’ll be like the 1975 song It’s Not Living (If It’s Not With You) where it’s a seemingly happy song but has a dark double meaning about addiction

Either way it’s apparently one of Billie’s favorite songs on the record according to the Kerrang inrerview

[eager swan]

I hope he mentions Santa in the song, where he gets drunk and falls down the chimney

[brisk pumice]

Looking for a cause, when all I got was Santa Clause

[knotty cloud]

this is gonna be special

i feel it

:p

but this is gonne be a still breathing kind of song maybe, with more really personal stuff to people relate

[eager swan]

I think it's a song about overcoming your inner demons and laying destruction upon human kind. Fk yeah, this songs gonna be awesome

[rancid nimbus]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT85Av3A7/ i think this is gonna be dilemma

[plush warren]

BRUH YES

Why do you think that though

[worn gull]

I'm hanging on a dream that's too dumb to die

[eager swan]

I think that's livin in the 20's.. and it sounds more like a garage song.
And not exactly my cup of tea

[obsidian harbor]

God I hope so, doubt it is but that sounds sick

[brisk pumice]

y'all already know I'm making artwork for Dilemma

stg if Billie still doesn't notice me

[eager swan]

Just spam it on his IG's dm

[brisk pumice]

I'm tagging him eight times for good measure

[brisk pumice]

nah I already spam his DMs too much

i dont want him to block me

[eager swan]

He might do it though

But it's a risk

If he likes it

[brisk pumice]

true

[subtle ravine]

Glad to know I'm not the only one desperate for his attention LMAO

[subtle ravine]

This is my least favorite of all the teasers so I'm personally hoping it's not this one lol

[brisk pumice]

I even call him sometimes just in case

[subtle ravine]

LMAOOOO ok I haven't gotten there yet lol

[brisk pumice]

I think he blocked me

What is this bullshit

Billie

Come on guy

I wasnt that spammy I was only kidding

Really? Because I cant message him anymore 🫠

Oh God that was in 2019

Oh weird Billie turned his comments off

That’s probably why

[brisk pumice]

I think its from that age comment

[eager swan]

Still 17 hours for me

[ornate zenith]

I think it's gonna be out at the same time around the world

[indigo spruce]

Oh now this is great news

I think as a bonus song it's very acceptable

(Why is the japanese word for fever so long though?)

[keen pewter]

NEW DILEMMA SNIPPET!

https://x.com/greenday/status/1732476617597882508?s=46&t=GyeobIlJXPzPx5b5SnTnhQ

"I WAS SOBER NOW I'M DRUNK AGAIN"

[knotty crow]

sounds pretty promising

[worn gull]

Billie sounds great in that snippet omg

Definitely looking forward to hearing the full song

[last glen]

Just by the snippet alone I think this song will blow American Dream and Look Ma out of the water

And I love both of those singles

[plush warren]

DILEMMA????

IT SOUNDS INCREDIBLE

GODDAMN

[last glen]

I respect that you're waiting, I could not hold myself back lmao

[obsidian harbor]

Sounds super good

I would’ve maybe held off but it was the first thing on my Instagram feed

[brisk pumice]

I LOVE THIS SO MUCH

Sounds like the 1972 snippet

[pulsar egret]

Man I was drunk, then I became sober

[rancid arch]

It says Fever * Bonus Track

[subtle ravine]

Dude Billie's vocals in this album so far keep surprising me

He's singing better than he ever has

Also the guitar reminds me of one of the teaser but I can't place which it is

But it sounds too familiar

[rancid arch]

It’s the drop D solo teaser.

[subtle ravine]

REALLY?

[rancid arch]

https://youtube.com/shorts/IRBC1Ro21HU?si=-tJPX-f3jhqrK4_9

No way it isn’t this one.

[subtle ravine]

OH MAN THAT WAS MY FAVORITE ONE

Oh I'm really excited now

[knotty cloud]

it is this one, same chords, drop D

its gonna be awesome

[obsidian harbor]

It sounds similar, likely the snippet we got is intro and verse and then the teaser sounds end of chorus into bridge

[obsidian harbor]

Or from the way that the saviors songs have gone, it’s likely the snippet could be intro into beginning of chorus

Since it seems a lot of the new songs start with the chorus

[subtle ravine]

The beginning sounds more like the intro to me

[obsidian harbor]

That’s what I said 💀

[subtle ravine]

Oh LMAO I didn't read all of it

My bad LOL

[obsidian harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

It sounds very similarly mixed, but hard to say since the teaser seems to be recorded by the phone and not a rip

[subtle ravine]

I'm still so curious as to how OEB will sound on the album

[obsidian harbor]

It definitely sounds like the same song

[subtle ravine]

I was thinking this too

I'm pretty sure it is recorded through a phone

[obsidian harbor]

That’s what it sounds like

Yeah

It doesn’t sound that hollow in the snippet

Also is it just me or is the production on his vocals a bit off?

[subtle ravine]

Do they?

[obsidian harbor]

Maybe it’s just because his voice is so present in the beginning but it kinda sounds off a bit to me

[subtle ravine]

They sound the same as in TADIKM and LMNB to me

[obsidian harbor]

Then maybe it’s just because of the barren start

[subtle ravine]

Yeah

I think Billie's voice sounds great

[obsidian harbor]

It does

It just didn’t sound like the other tracks to me

Which is maybe also because he’s singing softer than the other songs in the intro of dilemma

[subtle ravine]

Yeah

Gotta be honest when I first heard OEB I wasn't even sure if it was Billie cuz he has changed his singing a lot for this album

He goes higher a lot of the time, like in the dilemma snippet and TADIKM

Yeah same

To me it sounds like a continuation of the kinda singing he was doing in Father Of All

But y'know

Now we can actually hear him

And not like a million vocal effects

[subtle ravine]

Actually I would say he kinda started changing up his singing in The Longshot

[knotty crow]

i think part of it is to make it easier on his voice

at least that’s what i would suspect

trying to save his vocals since he’s in his 50s now

[subtle ravine]

Yeah that makes sense too

[plush warren]

I mean maybe but didn’t that one article say Bobby Sox has like almost metal vocals

[subtle ravine]

Like, by 21st Century Breakdown he had stopped doing his slightly deeper voice in favor of something that sounded closer to his natural voice

[knotty crow]

i guess we’ll have to see how the whole album sounds

that was just my surface level theory

[subtle ravine]

And now he's trying a new approach to his voice which is cool

[obsidian harbor]

I hope it’s like take back

[subtle ravine]

It would be really cool if it was

I think Billie still has it in him to do that

Man I'm so excited for this album

[obsidian harbor]

Fr

They’re hyping it up a ton

And with rob cavallo back on I think it’ll be better than RevRad

[subtle ravine]

When Father of All was coming out I was really excited bc it was my first Green Day album rollout but it was a mess

Like I was excited but cautiously y'know

But not this time lol

[azure helm]

so what era would dilemma fit in with

if it wasn't a saviors song

i'm just thinking saviors is 21cb part 2 so thats what of thought of the teaser

[subtle ravine]

21st Century Breakdown maybe?

That's what I thought

I feel like Rob Cavallo really wanted Green Day to do something like 21stCB again bc he didn't produce that one LMAO

[forest crag]

deff is this one

[azure helm]

last single it would seem

we've got a month until whether we get good shit or best shit

still waiting to see if oeb is the same or they made it better

place your bets then

what track is it gonna be

[knotty crow]

previously i would have thought 1981 or father to a son

but i don’t even know anymore

dilemma just came out of left field, i don’t think anyone was expecting that to be a single

i will be VERY surprised if saviors isn’t released as a single at some point

not having the title track as a single is just odd to me

i think 1981, father to a son and saviors are the most likely single candidates

probably two of the three get released with one being before the album and one being after

i only include father to a son because the one leak account said it and i think usually that source is pretty reliable

but i don’t remember off the top of my head

1981 because it’s been played live and saviors because it’s the title track

are the two most likely

knowing green day they probably just say fuck it and drop fancy sauce as the next single

who even knows lol

maybe this is a little far fetched but i feel like this might be an album where they try to “market” every song

like i have the sense they might release a lyric video or visualizer for every song on saviors

it makes sense in my head because obviously they’re trying to push this as a big album in a big year for the band (dookie 30, AI 20) and there are so many songs that are single candidates

that maybe they’ll try for some extra exposure for every individual song

it certainly feels like they could pull it off

[quiet berry]

they should, their lyric videos are really well done

[worn gull]

Why are Japanese editions of albums always the ones that get bonus tracks? For once it'd be cool to hear of bonus tracks on like Turkish editions or Indian editions, just for some variety

[worn gull]

that'd be hilarious tho ngl

[subtle ravine]

It's because albums there are a lot more expensive so they add an extra song or two so that it justifies the higher price

[worn gull]

Oh, that's interesting
Why are albums more expensive in Japan though

[subtle ravine]

Father Of All had a Bang Bang live version as a bonus track and I thought that was lame lol

[subtle ravine]

Idk

[knotty crow]

i've always heard domestic albums in japan have better sound quality or something

but that sounds like an urban legend more than anything

either way though i think it's more a thing of imported CDs being cheaper and not necessarily japanese CDs being super expensive

could be both though

[eager swan]

Yep they might , considering this is the first album they have copyrights to. So it's their choice now and not the labels

Well seems like Dilemma is a power ballad. So far I love it

[hallow creek]

It annoys me to no end that this account that just takes rumours and presents them as “leaks” from an “insider” has people actually believing they know anything

[knotty crow]

oh i didn't know it was that unreliable

i thought there was one account that usually got stuff right

[eager swan]

One dude (who apparently heard the whole album) said Dilemma,Father to a son, coma city and fancy sauce were the highlights of the album.
He also said along with the first two singles 6-7 songs were really good and the rest are "okish"

[rancid arch]

So mostly killer, some filler?

[last glen]

Funny how those are all the ones I'm looking forward to the most lol

We eating good this era already

[ornate zenith]

I need omeone else to give me my opinions

Before I've heard it

[rancid arch]

I WAS SOBER NOW I'M DRUNK AGAIN

[lost crag]

cant believe i was right tho

first one eyed bastard now fever

[deft violet]

Pls tell us what happened with Damn Juvenile Delinquents

[deft violet]

There's also Bobby Sox whose description sounds fantastic

[worn gull]

I completely forgot today was already December 7

I'm listening to right now but after this I'm gonna go listen to Dilemma

[fierce trout]

It’s not out yet

It won’t be out until 9am EST

[lost crag]

for that song it is a little bit harder to assume

since fever was the only one shown for that tracklist

it did leak out tho

and 2/3 of the leaks are actually getting released

so maybe DJD will be used for something later on

maybe under a side project

[brisk pumice]

Dilemma is Still Breathing’s frustrated older brother

[worn gull]

oh

[worn gull]

ok

[worn gull]

@fierce trout what's this then

[deft violet]

It's from the snippet released yesterday

[worn gull]

Well I went and listened to the snippet again on Youtube, but I didn't hear that lyric in there

Sorry if I sound like I'm calling you guys liars, I just wanna hear that snippet too

Still, I guess I could just wait 3⅓ more hours for the full song to be released

[last glen]

It's literally the ending of the snippet

[knotty crow]

AHH DILEMMA IS SO GOOD

dilemma > look ma > tadikm

[ornate zenith]

This song FUCKS

I don't wanna be a dead man walking, that sounds fucking good

Is that drop D I hear

[deft violet]

Where video

[worn gull]

this song is giving me an eargasm

if you told me this was a long lost american idiot b-side i would 100% believe you

[knotty crow]

video was supposed to be uploaded at 9 am EST but might be at 10

idk

[worn gull]

the production on this is so raw I LOVE IT

ALL HAIL ROB CAVALLO

also

[knotty crow]

oh video is out

[worn gull]

https://youtu.be/qAmulKjcHoo?si=-uHeDZEa9KrtqGlD

AAAAAAAAA

green day fucking cooked

https://tenor.com/view/los-angeles-lakers-kobe-bryant-kobe-lakers-slam-dunk-gif-18773611

green day dropping new singles from this album like

[jolly zealot]

Green Day to the other bands

https://tenor.com/view/fucking-destroy-them-the-rock-dwayne-johnson-seven-bucks-kill-them-gif-22161722

[worn gull]

i love this song

if anything it's one of billie's most personal songs yet since it directly confronts like his alcoholism (fyi that his iheartradio outburst was during like the peak of that.) iirc as well billie talked about rehab and how much it changed him in his audiobook

so i can see that being a large influence in the lyrics of this song

context aside production makes this feel like sumth straight outta american idiot. i can see this being from the pov of st jimmy lmao

out of all the songs they've dropped post-AI this is the one that sounds the closest to that album lol

finally some good fucking food

[indigo spruce]

it reminds me of forever now with how personal it is

i love it

[devout brook]

Power pop Green Day is back

[subtle ravine]

I cannot get over how good this song is

[indigo spruce]

Am I the only one who's getting christmas vibes during the intro?

[brisk pumice]

IM NEVER LISTENING TO ANY OTHER SONG EVER AGAIN

THIS IS THE ONLY SONG I NEED

Spotify doesn’t loop enough!!!!

[indigo spruce]

honestly I just don´t want it to end

[brisk pumice]

Yes! I got that too!

Makes sense why the released this after LMNB

[ornate zenith]

Wish it had a more rockin solo but otherwise this song is awesome as hell

[subtle ravine]

SAMW HERE

This song is incredible

[subtle ravine]

I've accepted that solos and Green Day don't really go together anymore😔

[ornate zenith]

I don't mean like some shreddy trilogy solo just something more aggressive like the revrad solos

Not much of a criticism though

[quiet berry]

literally do not care about the song I'm just glad it's not like foam anymore

[indigo spruce]

fun fact: playing it at maximum volume makes it even better

[ornate zenith]

Man I love how heavy of a sound they're bringing to this album, I can't wait to hear One Eyed Bastard with this production

[subtle ravine]

SAME

It already sounded good but man

Rob is putting in the work dude fr

It feels good to be a Green Day fan today

[rancid arch]

That’s a banger right there.

[plush warren]

SONG IS KILLER

WE ARE EATING WELL

[worn gull]

i think its safe to say no matter how this album turns out its infinitely better than FOAMF already

[indigo spruce]

without question, it´s definitely not as experimental, but the fact that he made a very intimate song about his addiction problems already shows that this album has way more substance (npi) than foamf

[celest hawk]

I’m at work anticipating listening to Dilemma SO badly right now. The hype and excitement from everyone is through the roof, cannot wait

[rancid arch]

There was a 1972 teaser for the solo, but also for the bridge if I remember correctly.

[brisk pumice]

Lol I had it on a loop blasting on my drive home, sorry not sorry pedestrians

[eager swan]

Bruh, Billie butchered that Christmas tree 😭

[brisk pumice]

I WAS SOBER NOW IM@DRUNK AGAIN🗣️🔥

[eager swan]

Overall not a bad song.. but LMNB so far is my fav

[brisk pumice]

I’m kinda glad Dilemma is so repetitive because I can finally get LMNB out of my head, it’s such an earworm fr

[knotty crow]

i don't think i have any complaints about this one

i honestly wasn't huge on the teaser posted yesterday

but listening to the whole song i've warmed up to it a lot

i was sober now i'm drunk again / i'm in trouble and in love again / i don't wanna be a dead man walking

so good

[ornate zenith]

"I don't wanna be a dead man walking", lyric and melody both, is an instant classic

10/10 chorus

[knotty crow]

now this makes me mad about 1981

because clearly billie still has it in him to write a decent chorus

but it's alright, i still like 1981

[rancid arch]

This song oddly enough gives me Weezer vibes.

[plush warren]

The added “so long, farewell” adlibs in 1981 make it not repetitive for me

[indigo spruce]

The beginning of Dilemma reminds me a bit of Holy Toledo! but honestly I love it because both songs slap

[keen pewter]

I’m not gonna lie y’all

this the best single so far

I haven’t felt this way about a Green Day single since Bang Bang dropped

[ornate zenith]

That about sums it up yeah, shit I haven't felt this way about a Green Day single ever

Not for one that I was there for the release of

[keen pewter]

yeah honestly same

I mean my first album cycle as a fan was RevRad so I don’t have many to go off of

but this song is just… wow

the vulnerability of the lyrics shocked me because I wasn’t expecting this level from Billie in 2023

you’re in for a treat when you listen

[ornate zenith]

Yeah I was absolutely not expecting this kind of song, I was thinking Forever Now and Lazy Bones would be the most vulnerable he'd get

[keen pewter]

I was telling my fiancée that I expected this to be a Lazy Bones-type song from the snippet we heard but I feel like this blows it out of the water

which is crazy bc I love Lazy Bones

[ornate zenith]

Yeah this is beyond Lazy Bones

[pulsar egret]

Everything is being blown out of the water

[keen pewter]

way more vulnerable than Forever Now too

I was listening to the other two singles on repeat because they were catchy and I was excited for good GD music… but I’m listening to Dilemma on repeat right now bc I’m just floored that we have this great of a Green Day song after FOAM

like my expectations were already high for the album but now they’ve skyrocketed. if the rest of the album sucks then it’s over for me

[ornate zenith]

Yeah this is different than the TADIKM hype, I love that song and was listening on repeat because I love it but also because I was hyped as hell

But now I just can't be bothered to listen to anything else because this is already one of my favorite songs period, as of today at least

[eager swan]

Singles so far.

TADIKM - signature green day sound with hints of AI, 21stcbd and UNO

LMNB- classic green day .SPEED

Dilemma - I'd say this one is more on the experimental side. It's Kind of refreshing to hear Billie singing in that vocal range.

[ornate zenith]

TADIKM was definitely the "Hey guys we're still Green Day, we can still do this shit" lead single choice and I respect that

Mission accomplished

But Dilemma is just like, here's something you didn't think we could do

[eager swan]

Man I love the chorus

[keen pewter]

that’s a great way to put it

[eager swan]

Tf

[keen pewter]

i mean even the imagery of the whole music video is crazy. Billie’s been transparent about his struggles with sobriety and addiction before but I don’t think we’ve ever seen it like this before

[lofty yacht]

Yeah this is so unexpected man

[ornate zenith]

Also the way he fucking belts out that chorus, it's so intense

The emotion isn't just in the lyrics

This song is what Still Breathing should've been

[keen pewter]

I was thinking the same thing

no shade to still breathing bc I love that song

but this feels like the perfect follow up to that

[ornate zenith]

Yes

[keen pewter]

it’s definitely more vulnerable lyrically

[ornate zenith]

More personal than a lot of people get when they're just talking about themselves to friends, let alone singing to the world

[keen pewter]

but also Still Breathing is “I’m better now! I was fucked up but I’m still alive” and Dilemma is “nope I’m still fucked up and I have no idea how to fix myself”

[barren plinth]

i think of still breathing more as 'i'm aware i'm fucked up but still alive' and less 'better now'

'shit sucks but i'm still here' vibes

[ornate zenith]

Yeah Still Breathing and Forever Now feel like "I'm working on myself" songs to me

Now we get the "It's not working and I'm scared" song

[keen pewter]

"It's not working and I'm scared" is a poetic way to put it honestly

this song is making me feel some typa way

[obsidian harbor]

Originally listened to dilemma and thought “it’s fine but a bit too repetitive” now that I’m a bit more familiar with it, it’s probably best single

[ornate zenith]

Sometimes it makes sense to be repetitive

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah

This album is gonna be so amazing

[ornate zenith]

This one feels less like repeating and more like hammering you with the emotion

[obsidian harbor]

I’m glad the bridge on this one is similar to the teaser

Since look ma had a very different instrumentation of the bridge from teaser to final product

[ornate zenith]

Yeah

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah

It’s a classic simple Green Day solo

Also still can’t get over drop D

[ornate zenith]

Drop D brings the gut punch

No

Just Whatsername has been drop D

[obsidian harbor]

Not yet

Nah

[obsidian harbor]

I like how some of the smaller movements from whatsername are also here

Probably just Billie when he plays drop D

I love the fret movements where he goes from 5->7->0

[ornate zenith]

That's a good point

[obsidian harbor]

It really feels that way

TADIKM was def 21CB, LMNB sounds like it could be dookie, insomniac, or even nimrod, and Dilemma sounds like AI

[ornate zenith]

Dilemma sounds like an AI/Revrad hybrid

The best aspects of both

[obsidian harbor]

Yep I definitely can hear the revrad now that you said that

[ornate zenith]

Alright listened 40 times today lol god damn

[lofty yacht]

Oh God

[ornate zenith]

I can't listen enough times

[azure helm]

dilemma certainly is a song

it sounds nice but

guys i think he was sober now he's drunk again

i think he doesn't want to be a dead man walking i could be wrong though

[ornate zenith]

Sounds a bit beefier than usual, to me

I personally like it

[azure helm]

just theories idk

[ornate zenith]

More power in his voice

[azure helm]

its the still breathing of this album thats it

[ornate zenith]

Still Breathing but replace the hope with fear

[obsidian harbor]

So I’m not alone

[azure helm]

yeah now i get it

[obsidian harbor]

Good I love still breathing

[ornate zenith]

I notice what you’re talking about with the vocals I just don’t dislike it

[obsidian harbor]

I don’t either but it’s just weird it’s different than the rest of the album

[azure helm]

they're just making a giant mix of every album for saviors

me waiting for the one warning type song

[lofty yacht]

[ornate zenith]

Is it? Sounds like the look ma no brains mix to me

[lofty yacht]

How

[azure helm]

everyone hates poor percy i swear

[lofty yacht]

ITS SO CUTE

[obsidian harbor]

There was that one acoustic teaser right?

[azure helm]

what

i dont know man i haven't listened to the teasers in a long time

[obsidian harbor]

https://youtu.be/d7jlF3Hze8g?si=1Qg9O_zU3FkhFUGp

[lofty yacht]

I really like this

[obsidian harbor]

Sound a bit too barren for me but that’s probably because it’ll just be an acoustic and vocals

Makes sense

[lofty yacht]

Like ordenery world maybe?

[obsidian harbor]

Probabky

Which can be nice

[fierce trout]

I really don’t like still breathing but I love this song Dilemma

[obsidian harbor]

Considering the largest flaw with ordinary world was the fact that it was added last minute and doesn’t fit in, I think a song like ordinary world made for an album would sound good

[ornate zenith]

Also one where he doesn't say the title every other line

[lofty yacht]

Frrrrrr

[ornate zenith]

I haven't listened to any version of the chorus I just read you guys say the one line from it sometimes

[lofty yacht]

Me too

Iv not heard 1981 at all

I hope it does

[azure helm]

oh my god 1981 reminds me of this one tracklist in this channel forum thing

this list was awesome

[keen pewter]

thank god this didn’t happen

[keen pewter]

Don’t give into the propaganda, 1981 is mid

[ornate zenith]

I have no opinion on 1981, for I have not heard it

[keen pewter]

you don’t need to hear it, just take my opinion as fact

[ornate zenith]

Yeah good point, fuck that song

[brisk pumice]

Tbh I get that, but there’s also a frustrated sense of hope coming through

The “I dont want to be a dead man walking” bit

Like, yes I’ve taken one step forwards and five steps back but the only way out is through

[ornate zenith]

Feels like it's not working, but better hope it does, because the alternative is terrifying

[brisk pumice]

There’s still more depth to the way its been mixed to be a bit wavy yknow? Ordinary world was a bit flat

[brisk pumice]

Yeah, a “trust the process, I guess” song

[ornate zenith]

Definitely feels more focused on the "it's not working and I'm scared part" but I agree

[last glen]

I knew it was coming but it still feels weird yeah. It's nice finally getting the finished product though!

[ornate zenith]

Yep

I didn't realize you ahdn't heard the whole thing yet at that point

I think it really really fits the song

Dude put his whole pussy into it

[deft violet]

I can't stop watching the music video. I didn't think it would be possible to be even more hyped for the new album.

2024 is our year my friends

I expect some big American Idiot stuff for the second half of the year

[sacred bone]

Is there any expectations for another single before the album releases?

They posted: "Didn’t think we’d leave ya without a new song before the end of the year, did ya?" That makes me think this is it for the year.

I thought the album was the 9th not 19th. Changes that a bit.

[brisk pumice]

I’ve been listening to Dilemma for hours now help😩

[indigo spruce]

I wish I could, I wanna be careful no to listen it to death

[ornate zenith]

I’m 0% tired of it after a cumulative 3 hours of listens

[knotty crow]

all three singles already feel like classic green day songs

i listen to look ma no brains and i'm like "this hasn't been out for 5 years already?"

[jolly zealot]

it was translucent not its transparent

[keen pewter]

what

[knotty crow]

blud is yapping about something

just reads like a poor attempt at a joke

[jolly zealot]

perfect representation

[jolly zealot]

verse is better than chorus

[ornate zenith]

I was kidding, like I said I don't even know how the song goes at all besides some words

[subtle ravine]

Wait forgot to reply to the message lol

[keen pewter]

i keep saying!! like 90% of the song is just banging her head like 1981

[subtle ravine]

I've read the lyrics by now and yeah it's pretty much that*

There lol

I think 1981 sounds good personally

But yeah the chorus is not the best

[jolly zealot]

*now its transparent

[jolly zealot]

I know i was just stating my thoughts

[subtle ravine]

1981 is the only song I feel kinda meh about

But even then I really like it

[knotty crow]

1981 is solidly in the bottom tier of what we've heard so far from saviors

but it's still an ok song

[brisk pumice]

I prefer 1981 over OEB

[fierce trout]

Me too

[brisk pumice]

OEB is good but it’s got the same energy as Take the Money and Crawl and Here Comes the Shock

Wait