Saviors Discussion

[fleet meteor]

it'd have to be crazy good

which... i mean i like the new single but i dunno if it has comeback power

guess we'll see how the album fares when its actually out lol

[obsidian harbor]

For this album to pop off, it would have to be immaculate on top of hitting this 2000’s resurgence at just the right time

[fleet meteor]

lol we aren't anywhere near peak 2000s resurgence imo

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah exactly

And it’s not gonna hit it in January

It’s still kinda warming up

[fleet meteor]

i'd say we're in that 90s wave still

i mean it's called the thirty year rule for a reason

[obsidian harbor]

Well fashion wise there has been a prominent rise in 2000s

[fleet meteor]

yeah, scene revival is starting to pick up a bit

[obsidian harbor]

Idk about music though

There has been an uptick in pop punk but I doubt it’ll stick around

[fleet meteor]

i feel like we're not really going to see much musical revival beyond the 80s tbh

like, we'll see some but with music becoming so splintered with the internet i dunno if we're gonna see that kinda magic again

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah I doubt it

[fleet meteor]

but i'm perfectly happy to get my little green day albums every few years and enjoy them (or not) with smaller communities

[obsidian harbor]

I still think this album will do better than previous ones

[fleet meteor]

probably yeah

hard to judge

if it's good i think it will

[obsidian harbor]

It’ll probably do better than RevRad imo

[bold relic]

in my opinion no for now

its not bad but the song overall didnt even reach revrad level

[fleet meteor]

the song grew on me but

the fact that it needed to grow on me i think kinda says it all in terms of larger impact

idk, a lot of people seem to like it which is good but the people i'm seeing like it are all green day fans already

[bold relic]

i dont see people hype for it outside this server

[fleet meteor]

yeah, i've gone looking for reactions and they're all from green day fans

[ornate zenith]

Gonna have to see if it’s on the billboard rock charts this week

[fleet meteor]

i mean, i imagine it would be somewhere on that list

can't be that much competition

[bold relic]

i predict top 10

[fleet meteor]

there's the new blink album which seems like it's got more buzz?

did that drop outright? idk lol

[bold relic]

blink is more popular at least in here

[ornate zenith]

Blink is more popular in the green day server?

[worn gull]

[lofty yacht]

What do you meannn

[bold relic]

I mean my place

yeah my bad on context

[keen pewter]

I mean the marketing for this single is good but it’s just not reaching a huge audience

[eager swan]

And I don't think the 2nd single will fare too well either.
Mainly because I think that only old school fans will like that song

[quiet berry]

don't really care about the success too much just glad that it's good music

[obsidian harbor]

Why did I get this last night

So late to get it damn

If I saw earlier I probably would’ve bought it

[eager swan]

I don't care about chart performance, although part of me want the songs to perform well.
As long as the music is good for me.. Tbh I don't really like American dream that much, apart from the lyrics.
Fortunately No brains seems like a banger

[eager swan]

Imagine if each and everyone of us that signed up got something.
They aren't recovering financially

[pulsar egret]

To taunt you

Cause you’re late

[deft violet]

I'm an old school guy and Look Ma No Brains sounds way too simplistic to be a single to me. I prefer their more "arena rock" songs

[ornate zenith]

Look ma no brains probably won't get the same promo as the TADIKM since they're releasing it the very next week after the lead single

[deft violet]

I like short and fast punk bops ala Ramones but I think Green Day really shines with the more pretentious opera rock stuff

[obsidian harbor]

What’s the new photo of?

[knotty cloud]

i think look ma no brains will be just a promo single

like fire ready aim

revolution radio was relesead before the album and got a video just in 2017

these days you have to just put one song after another to get people interested

i am so ready to listen to the official version

[ornate zenith]

Looby mooby nooby booby

[obsidian harbor]

I think it might be another rock opera

[eager swan]

Saviors might probably be the rock arena type we're looking for.
The other song are just classic green day titles.. probably 1-2 mint mark

[knotty cloud]

I miss the articles describing songs and Interviewing the band

[wraith pine]

Does anyone know the reason why they chose the name saviors

[worn gull]

"pretentious opera rock stuff"
lol

[deft violet]

I don't mean it as an insult. I like it.

[worn gull]

yeah I know what you meant

the words you chose are just funny

idk how but they just are

[deft violet]

What is you guys opinion on '1981' and 'One Eyed Bastard' ? I like 1981, it seems repetitive but the instrumentals could be amazing in the studio version. As for OEB, it sounds very much like a Father of All song, I imagine the final result will be very different from the 2020 leak we have. I just hope they reworked the chorus lol

[eager swan]

I have a feeling that this album will be just average at best.. atleast better than FOAMF but not better than the others

[obsidian harbor]

I think it’ll probably be better than RevRad

[ornate zenith]

Looks like TADIKM has debuted at #5 on mainstream rock airplay

[obsidian harbor]

Baller

[worn gull]

What were #1 to 4?

[eager swan]

Let's see how LMNB will do

Btw I find it strange that they haven't done any album interviews yet.. i wonder what's up with that

The album is out in two months and it looks like they haven't done anything apart from playing shows

[obsidian harbor]

Probably waiting til mid November to start

But definitely odd

They better have a great third single

[ornate zenith]

Is that mfer lifting

[obsidian harbor]

Gotta be on the grind

[obsidian harbor]

https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/meet-belfast-man-featuring-green-27997743

[fierce trout]

He hates it 😭

[plush warren]

Bruh ofc he wasn’t gonna like it

Like i get that the lyric is weird but it’s ONE line in the song

Also I’m still not sure what it means 💀

[celest hawk]

It’s not even weird… he’s using it to express how sick and grotesque the chase is for the American dream, when it doesn’t exist.

[plush warren]

Yeah like I didn’t interpret it in a weird way either

It makes sense for Billie to write that

[jolly zealot]

ive seen too many bad reviews for perfectly good things

he only likes rap

lol

[celest hawk]

Yea, he has his own weird tastes… which he is most certainly entitled to.

He is really good explaining why he does or doesn’t like an album, and that pisses people off haha

[lofty yacht]

WOAH TOO MUCH

Yeah but still feels like its crossing a line there

[ornate zenith]

Yeah we don’t do that

@jolly zealot no no on the fantano self death bit

Please thanks

[jolly zealot]

Sorry man, I may have went a Lil too far

[worn gull]

What's the fantano self death bit

[ornate zenith]

No need to repeat it

[worn gull]

DM it to me then, I'm curious

[ornate zenith]

Move on

[worn gull]

What's fantano tho

[forest crag]

HOHOLERO

[worn gull]

what

[forest crag]

🫵 🤓

[eager swan]

Tf u guys talking about? What is a fantano?

[knotty cloud]

not gonna watch fantano reviews

[jolly zealot]

hes always wrong

[eager swan]

Is the new song out yet?

[lofty yacht]

Nope

[obsidian harbor]

Presuming it’s a midnight release it’s not for 12 more hours

And it could be considering this one has less buildup around it

[worn gull]

The song's dropping the same time TADIKM dropped last week faik

[obsidian harbor]

Ah oh well I guess I’ll have to wake up and get the song

[fleet meteor]

LMAO HE'S BRUTAL

[lofty yacht]

This is the worst comment section i have ever seen

NOBODY GETS IT

[keen pewter]

yeah as much as I love fantano's vids he just doesn't understand pop punk

I don't think I've ever heard him say a positive thing about it

[lofty yacht]

YES

Yeah he must be playing dumb

he can't not get it

...right?

[ornate zenith]

He was lifting weights on stream, I think it's reasonable to assume he leapt on the chance to meme a little on that line

[worn gull]

The last thing we need is Green Day getting Michael Jackson'd

[ornate zenith]

That had nothing to do with lyrics, that was because Michael Jackson "befriedned" a kid and then the kid told police he had molested him

[ornate zenith]

It was the last song they recorded wasn't it?

The only song we've heard that they've been working on for 3-4 years is one eyed bastard and we don't know what that sounds like now either

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah

I think the album will be pretty good

At the very least it will be a good album critically

Idk about commercially

[ornate zenith]

From the one song I have heard to base my opinion on, I also think it will be good

[keen pewter]

nobody legitimately thinks Green Day are pdfs

hey I got the nuclear family role

[worn gull]

You never know with all the crazy shit going on in America these days

[obsidian harbor]

?

[keen pewter]

?

I mean yeah maybe idiots will think they’re pdfs but any sensible person knows it’s just another poopy Green Day lyric

[eager swan]

Is it out

[ornate zenith]

No it's not out, it's not even the 2nd

[worn gull]

He doesnt even think the song is that bad i just think its funny he treated some of the lyrics on that song like Eminem wrote them or sumth

Fantano: "wow this new green day song is actually pretty good i sure hope there wont be a lyric that will completely ruin my enjoyment of this song"

The "we're pedophiles" line:

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-smiling-smile-classy-analyst-gif-25458542

[barren plinth]

the line does completely ruin the song for me

[worn gull]

yeah what does it mean anyway? my best assumption is that its supposed to call out all the celebrities who've sexually groomed children over the years and are already getting called out for it

[barren plinth]

it's supposed to be like... wanting something that's wrong... like the implication is the 'american dream' is actually this whole perverted thing

but comparing anythign like that to pedophilia is.... really missing the mark

as a victim of it, i reallllly don't like hearing it in a song

[worn gull]

THEY LITERALLY COULDVE JUST SAID "WE'RE VERY HORNY FOR"

[barren plinth]

idk it's just a weird line at all

[worn gull]

VE/RY/HOR/NY

ITS THE SAME SYLLABLE COUNT AS PEDOPHILES

[barren plinth]

like if you're trying to make the act of chasing the american dream sound like a dirty / very badthing, there's other ways to do it

[worn gull]

im guessing its supposed to be a jab at cancel culture but idk man

Eminem ass lyric

MGK ass lyric

NO FUCK THAT

THIS IS A DRAKE ASS LYRIC

HE WOULD LITERALLY WRITE A BAR LIKE THIS

[barren plinth]

it's.. really bad. this song is like if FOAM Era Billie tried to write like RevRad era Billie.

It's almost good! but God he had to make it weird.

[worn gull]

Yeah true

[barren plinth]

yeah, it has a bit to do with why i stopped listening originally around that time

it just feels sometimes like he's trying a little too hard

like he thinks it's provocative and punk and it's just... idk man you're someone's dad now grow up

there is a lot of good, but you have to work harder to find it now

it puts it in this weird uncanny valley area

where it just comes off as cringe now

[worn gull]

OMG

ITS OUT

THE SONG IS OUT

https://open.spotify.com/track/4hZNePZMmC4PUz3fnimJhb?si=f-A9mW_8RRanIJ0HUGGK_w

It sounds nothing like what we heard in the leaks. also damn Green Day changed their sound fast

[thick locust]

my head is breaking over the ridiculous reception to the PDF file lyric....first off not even the first time he has dropped it in a song....he has also used the N word in a song.... like for fuck sake...its green day... its just a lyric (a relatively clever lyric to tbh) albeit seemingly silly to think this current gen wouldnt go stupid over it...if this song came out 10 years ago not one of yall would have even mentioned it. The song fucking rips, its an absolute bast, look mah no brains sounds even better.. can we all just enjoy a new album drop without all the unnecassary bs?

[ornate zenith]

People got opinions it's fine

[thick locust]

i 100% agree, it just seems no matter what these guys do everyone finds a way to turn it negative, they litereally try make this music for us...the LEAST we could do is be a little more optimistic about it

[ornate zenith]

I assure you plenty of people are positive about the song and the band lately, just some folks sharing their thoughts

People in here aren't really being excessive or hating or anything

[barren plinth]

idk man i remember distinctly negative opinions like my own here when he said the n word

i don't think this is a new thing at all

[ornate zenith]

That’s what I’m saying, it’s just people discussing the song and sharing their thoughts, not a bunch of haters or something so we don’t need to chastise people about not being positive enough

[keen pewter]

I really don’t think the line is even that bad

I feel like there are people that’re overreacting and acting like it’s the worst thing in the world.

[eager swan]

So

Is it out yet?

[knotty crow]

not for me it isn't

[eager swan]

Copy that

[knotty crow]

prob will be out at like 9-10 am

[eager swan]

I'll come back in an hour and ask the same

[ornate zenith]

It’s not gonna be out at 1 am

If it’s not out at midnight it’ll be in like 9 hours

[eager swan]

Still makes me wonder how he got away saying the N word..
Maybe the song wasn't popular enough?

[worn gull]

Yeah that's basically what I mean

[worn gull]

Just 4 years apart, and yet...

[worn gull]

oof

[knotty crow]

technically billie has been a dad since when? insomniac era?

ik it's nitpicky but still

[fierce trout]

i don’t think the line is that big of a deal. sure it’s weird to read it at first but it makes sense when u understand what he’s saying

[keen pewter]

yeah lol Joey was born in 95, so basically 85% of their catalog is from when he was a father

[brisk pumice]

It’s saying the american dream is childish/naïve, you can connect the dots

[brisk pumice]

WHY IS THE SONG NOT OUT

[heady escarp]

EXACTLY

AND THE TOUR DATES

[eager swan]

So

Is it out yet?

[heady escarp]

No

[eager swan]

Copy that

I'll come back in an hour and ask the same

[heady escarp]

Don't

[indigo spruce]

But

Is it out yet tho?

[worn gull]

Look Ma, No Brains

more like

Look Ma, No Song!

Get it cuz the song isnt fucking out yet

[eager swan]

So

Is

It

Out

Yet

?

[lofty yacht]

ITS NOT OUT

[worn gull]

WAIT ANOTHER HOUR GODDAMMIT

besides its literally just a 2 minute song chill

[ornate zenith]

Look ma no brains refers to the people asking if the song is out yet

[barren plinth]

i get it. i don’t need anyone explaining it. but i still don’t like it.

[worn gull]

Couldn't you just check for yourself? Lol

It takes just as much effort to go on Spotify or whatever you listen to music on

[brisk pumice]

I have the song, I just want tickets

[eager swan]

So

[ornate zenith]

If you ask again I'm gonna beat the shit out of you

[knotty crow]

i was just gonna say

are they getting some kind of sadistic enjoyment out of asking

because it takes all of two seconds to look on streaming and see that it’s not there

[ornate zenith]

AlienVisitor is upset it wasn't called October Penis and is taking it out on us

@eager swan it's out

https://open.spotify.com/track/0Xs1aDAUmp3W6If2y5JQMK?si=aca0c6a86d5d432a

There you go

See that was easy

First impression is that this song fucks

[fierce trout]

why cant you guys just look it up instead of asking a million times 🤦‍♂️

[ornate zenith]

To be annoying

[brisk pumice]

Manchester😍😍😍

Bit sad I’ll miss the interruptors but I’m not risking seeing them in London after the shit organization of the hella mega tour

[eager swan]

This is the shit

Man so good

[brisk pumice]

Wtf aint no way hotels are already booked out

[indigo spruce]

Yeah but the point is

[keen pewter]

you're right, there is no way

[indigo spruce]

Is it out yet?

[brisk pumice]

There is

Somehow

[keen pewter]

bc they probably aren't allowing reservations yet

[brisk pumice]

They are

Hilton is booked out for that weekend

Specifically

[keen pewter]

must be a busy weekend

[brisk pumice]

You can find rooms on sunday and thursday

[fleet meteor]

hooooo boy new single

[brisk pumice]

Maybe bc it’s closest to the stadium ig

[fleet meteor]

i think i might like this even better than american dream

[worn gull]

This song is awesome

I love how this is the closest GD has been to emulating their 90s stuff in like

an eternity

[fleet meteor]

I like that the drums are going CRAZY like they haven't in so long

[worn gull]

It sounds like sumth that couldve been on Insomniac or Nimrod

[knotty crow]

i feel like this is exactly what green day fans have been asking for for years now basically

[worn gull]

like honest to god this is the most bite GD's had in a single since Bang Bang

[knotty crow]

an updated version of their 90s sound but actually good

[worn gull]

They cooked

[fleet meteor]

it's got a bit of a different sound compared to the 90s stuff but it's still good

[worn gull]

Yeah its very Uno-esque

[lofty yacht]

FRRRR

[fleet meteor]

after tadikm i was cautiously optimistic but now i'm just straight up interested in this album

[worn gull]

like this song sounds like it wouldve been on Uno if it came out in the 90s

[fleet meteor]

they might have something good on their hands here

[worn gull]

fucking banger

[lofty yacht]

New song

Reminds me a bit of ha ha your dead

[fleet meteor]

i've really missed the sheer SPEED of tracks like this

takes me back

just fuckin RIPS

[worn gull]

The music video is so good too. It legit feels like sumth straight outta Insomniac

[fleet meteor]

YEAH

it reminded me of basket case

[worn gull]

feeling Geek Stink Breath vibes

We are so fucking back

[fleet meteor]

i've been loving these music videos honestly

[brisk pumice]

Booked my hotel 😈

[fleet meteor]

the songs are good but the music videos are fucking standout

[worn gull]

TADIKM's music video would fit pretty well on RevRad i'd say

[fleet meteor]

i like the black and white film vibe they're going for so far

[worn gull]

like considering how Saviors is supposed to "celebrate 30 years of Green Day" im gonna assume this album is gonna be a hybrid/culmination of all the sounds from the band's past works

TADIKM is very AI/21CB

[fleet meteor]

yeah

[worn gull]

LMNB is very 90s

and rumors say OEB is FOAMF-ish

and im gonna assume Father to a Son is a ballad a la September or 21 Guns

1981 probably from sumth like Kerplunk

[indigo spruce]

I honestly don't see it, it reminded me of East Jesus Knowhere

[worn gull]

wasnt OEB a FOAMF outtake tho

[indigo spruce]

I think I heard something recently that it was recorded after the foamf sessions

Not sure tho

[ornate zenith]

It was

Recorded after

[knotty crow]

was recorded with butch walker though right?

i would be very surprised if it wasn't

judging by how it sounds

[worn gull]

bro

mike going "OHHHH" in LMNB

[ornate zenith]

Yes

Wouldn't surprise me if the saviors version is totally rerecorded

[knotty crow]

yeah i would imagine so

and hope so

lol

[fleet meteor]

same, that's my hope

[late hull]

Right so Florida got properly fucked over, so much for seeing them on tour

[ornate zenith]

Stadium tour, hopefully they announce another leg

Usually they announce other legs of the tour later

[fierce trout]

im on the east coast while theyre in the west coast. and im on the west coast while theyre on the east coast
i hate college

[late hull]

Fingers crossed. It's funny because I can't remember the last time Rancid was in Florida ngl

[plush warren]

NEW SONG IS AMAZING

THE BRIDGE ABSOLUTELY FUCKED ME UP

THE LEAD GUITAR???

[knotty crow]

my dog watching me air drum to look ma no brains like "tf is wrong with you"

[fleet meteor]

your dog is just jealous

[indigo spruce]

Btw how cool is it that green day share a release date with the beatles' last song

[obsidian harbor]

The EU leg of the tour has the hives

Damn if only we got them for the US

[knotty crow]

that's what i'm saying

[obsidian harbor]

The hives are amazing it sucks

[abstract grove]

Am I the only one on here that is kind of just neutral on Look Ma? It's fine. I just feel like it's something Billie could have written in 20 minutes.

[obsidian harbor]

I think you are the only one

[abstract grove]

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-so-gif-25731523

[knotty crow]

i was alone

i was all by myself

[abstract grove]

for me, it's:
TADIKM > OEB > Look Ma > 1981

[brisk pumice]

Is OEB even conf for Saviors

[knotty crow]

yes

[lofty yacht]

Yup

[abstract grove]

I'm also confused by some of the comments on OEB. Like that it sounds like FOAMF. To me, the production sounded wayyy better than FOAMF. Even if it was just a demo. So much that I thought I had heard a different version than others.

[eager swan]

LMNB is so good.. like I'm so happy about it
However it might just be me.. but I think the mixing is terrible in the song

[plush warren]

Nah the mixing isn’t terrible at all

Sounds great to me

[plush warren]

Yeah I agree

I’m excited for the official version but I hope they change it at least a little

[worn gull]

Reminds me of Under You by Foo Fighters

love the throwback sound but GAHHH the mixing

What is it with new rock albums and their shit mixing? First Foo Fighters then blink and now these guys

[knotty crow]

tbh i sort of thought the same

[obsidian harbor]

I think LMNB is the best song in years

[last glen]

Was not expecting a music video for no brains, but hey, that's cool!

[knotty crow]

i thought the same thing

very reminiscent of insomniac era music videos

[obsidian harbor]

Yea

Since presale doesn’t go on for a few days are the tickets for sale online fake?

[keen pewter]

yes

[obsidian harbor]

I figured after viewing them

They just looked very sketch

[swift flare]

Idk Bang Bang is still a banger

[knotty crow]

yeah i think bang bang is the best post-21cb song

that or forever now

[obsidian harbor]

Nah RevRad title track was better

[swift flare]

Rev Rad is mid

[knotty crow]

it's alright

[obsidian harbor]

Damn

[swift flare]

Its fine

[obsidian harbor]

It’s a banger

[swift flare]

Not spectaculsr

[knotty crow]

somewhere now is good

[obsidian harbor]

Reminds me of basket case and geek stink breath

Anyone think we’ll get a live album fro this tour?

[plush warren]

Maybe bc it says celebrating 30 years of dookie and 20 of AI

[obsidian harbor]

Maybe

[eager swan]

Man LMNB is so good I kept it on repeat and went to sleep.
TADIKM is a fine song but this one takes the cake

[obsidian harbor]

I would love to have been there

[worn gull]

holy fuck

the mixing on LMNB

THE MIXING

its just

😙👌

mwahhhh

i was wondering on first listen why it sounded so rough

and then after like a million listens i grew to love the mixing even more, it sounds so much rougher compared to the new blink182 and foo fighters

ok yknow what

I think this might be one of the best singles of the year. Hands down

Green Day did it. Those sons of bitches did it

Between this, Under You and Dance With Me i'd say it feels good to hear my fav bands make bangers again

[worn gull]

no one was looking, I was thinking of you

[quiet berry]

agreed, this single is awesome

it's a modern maria

and a great return to form

[eager swan]

Yeah

It's so good

That i already lost NNN

I nutted 100 times listening to the song

[brisk pumice]

Kerrang Radio won’t stop talking about the Saviors tour but they only played Know Your Enemy, like cmon just play LMNB dont be a pussy

[obsidian harbor]

They’re scared

[lofty yacht]

WHATTT

There all like the same length

The fuck

[fierce trout]

it’s joever

[abstract grove]

No 9 minute rock opera 😦

[quiet berry]

billie said in an article recently he doesnt like writing long songs anymore or something

on the bright side though it's longer than FOAM

[deft violet]

Pls change the badabing badabing badaboum chorus

[last glen]

What did yall expect? 15 tracks fitting on a single vinyl record had to be filled with short songs

[knotty crow]

i'm scared LOL

[worn gull]

Maybe in 25 years from now, we'll get a deluxe edition with fancy sauce packets

[knotty crow]

i'm wondering the same thing, like it's such an odd title for the longest song on the album

i was totally expecting it to be a joke song by tre or something and it would have been like 1:30

[muted oracle]

Is there going to be a green day meet and greet?

[jolly zealot]

Is this the confirmed song lengths?

[azure helm]

billie needs to go back on his long song statement

brother there has been shit happening for the 3 years between this and foam

[plush warren]

Honestly the song lengths aren’t that short

Got a few in the late 3 mins

And fancy sauce is over 4

But like anything 2:30 and above is really not bad

Literally insomniac has like all 2-3 min songs and that album is amazing so I’m not concerned with that

[forest crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh8KuqjYVns&ab_channel=St.Jimmy'sStuff

[fierce trout]

Alright this makes me like the song more lol

[forest crag]

if billie maintained his voice from the 90s the post AI songs and albums would have been soo different

maybe the trilogy would have been way better

in american idiot his voice some of the 90s vibe and way of singing

but with 21stcb his voice changed a bit and sounds abit higher

[obsidian harbor]

Well I mean if you presume a zombie theme then Fancy Sauce could be another term for blood

[knotty crow]

i guess? but it's still an odd term for blood too

[obsidian harbor]

True

But I think with song titles like Dilemma, Coma City, and Strange Days Are Here to Stay, it could all be taken from a zombie angle

But coudl be no zombie theme too

[eager swan]

I really fascinated by Fancy Sauce at the beginning and after they revealed the timer, I think it's gonna be my fav now

[brisk pumice]

OKAY i posted m LMNB thingie to insta because I saw Billie reposting art

So I was like he’ll finally notice me maybe

He didn’t BUT FUCKING MIKE DIRNT?!! LIKED IT!!!! LIKE WHAT THATS CRAZY

[deft violet]

The One Eyed Bastard leak sounds so much like a Father of All song. I hope that Rob Cavallo and Chris Lord-Alge tweaked the production to make it more agressive and punk-ier.

Since it's from 2020, it would be strange that it remained unchanged for 3 years.

[deft violet]

As for 1981 it's growing on me a lot. It's kinda repetitive but it's nice riff and short format makes up for it. I think the studio version will kick ass.

[pseudo copper]

I have high hopes for Saviours (yes i spelled it with a U because Canada), musically and lyrically
I don't like those weird nonsensical war-related lyrics the boys put in since i'd say , prolly earlier down the line but that's where Green Day started going downhill for me

[plush warren]

OMG WOW

[indigo spruce]

Is it just me or does the guy in the lmnb music video resemble young billie a bit?

[bold relic]

i see rowan atkinson

[brisk pumice]

I see Billie

[celest hawk]

That's awesome! Mike fucking Dirnt has seen your artwork

[brisk pumice]

I’m still not over this

[celest hawk]

haha, enjoy it

[worn gull]

RIP Jesus of Suburbia

[worn gull]

RIP Homecoming

RIP Dirty Rotten Bastards

[worn gull]

That's a lot of nutting for 2 minutes

[knotty crow]

watched a recording of it, sounds pretty good

and if there’s a third single it’s 100% going to be 1981

not gonna say anything else on OEB because i don’t know if it’ll sound different on the album

but now that i’ve heard 3 songs i can say i’m excited for this album for sure if the rest of it sounds similar

[plush warren]

Where’d you see it? I can’t find it

[keen pewter]

I’m still not huge on this song

although it sounds better than last time

[rancid arch]

Tré is killing it!

[plush warren]

Yeah the added background vocals make it sound not so repetitive

Sounds great

[indigo spruce]

I still find it very frustration that half of the new green day songs have these repetitive choruses

Almost like billie is too lazy to write something better

[brisk pumice]

Whenever there’s a “she” mentioned in a GD song I always secretly try to become that “she”😂

[celest hawk]

I’m actually fighting to listen to this… don’t want to spoil all the songs before the album releases

[fierce trout]

Yay he doesn’t have dementia!

[brisk pumice]

Only when it comes to Longview😂

Speaking of 1981, anyone has any guesses why she’s banging her head like it’s 1981?

What is it referencing, why that year

[indigo spruce]

The year of the first space shuttle start

Definitely

[brisk pumice]

UGH IM SO PISSED IM NOT HERE FOR THE LONDON CLUB SHOW FUCK

Bxsmsnfnans

I dont even know where they’ll tour next but I wished they’d do one show a week

Never gonna forgive myself for missing this opportunity 🥲

[bold relic]

1981 looks promising

not top tier but its not sound like a song that try to regain fans trust like the first two singles

[brisk pumice]

Okay. Setlist talk. If you could control Green Day’s setlist for the tour, what’s going on yours? And in what order

[indigo spruce]

I think this fits more in the general green day discussion channel, but here you go:

Say Goodbye
Bang Bang
East Jesus Nowhere
Look ma, no brains
Roshambo
Peacemaker
Having a blast
Cigarettes and Valentines
Kill the dj
Holy Toledo!
Desensitized
St Jimmy
Are we the waiting
Letterbomb
Outlaws
Still breathing
Going to Pasalacqua

Encore: All by myself
Dominated Love Slave

[brisk pumice]

Well it’s for Saviors lmao

So it’s be AI/Dookie/Saviors mostly

Anyway here’s mine in this exact order

[indigo spruce]

Whoops I didn't read that "for the tour"

[brisk pumice]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Mrja7c3NnElJHc9Im5A7q?si=xmTRUPOhRb6MQPQJtnrQLQ

[indigo spruce]

Not bad but I'd love for them to play more deep cuts live

[brisk pumice]

Do we even have deep cuts from AI/Dookie

[celest hawk]

For AI…maybe ‘Give Me Novacaine’? You could argue there isn’t a deep cut though

I just hope they play a large amount of new material on the tour…

I listened to Mike’s interview that got posted here… anyone else pretty stoked after listening to him talk about the album? He seemed very very excited for it

[brisk pumice]

I think the trend’s lately that bands will play a range of older songs and their newest material, so that’s a good bet

[celest hawk]

Thinks back to FOAM era 😂😂

[plush warren]

Can you post a link here?

I wanna watch it lol

[keen pewter]

that’s interesting because he still uses a paper setlist too

[bold relic]

a dookie/AI heavy setlist will be like this

american idiot
holiday
bang bang
the american dream is killing me
castaway
burnout
2000 light years away
longview
welcome to paradise
the judges daughter
no pride
1981
letterbomb
give me novacaine
look ma no brains
boulevard of broken dreams
jesus of suburbia
basket case
she
coming clean
f.o.d

Encore
the grouch
stop when the red lights flash
take the money and crawl
american eulogy

with at least a song from every other album

in case of trilogy i pick just 1 though because its already a long list

[ornate zenith]

Green Day playing stop when the red lights flash for an encore

[bold relic]

the alternatives for trilogy are either nuclear family or wow thats loud

and also 99 revolutions i completely forgot this song when im making this list

oh x kid

dirty rotten bastards is 50/50 for me

[celest hawk]

absolutely, I listened to it on spotify... https://open.spotify.com/episode/23SHzcz68BsoCwGrpnm7df?si=ff9a377fe73f49e5

[bold relic]

Amy works as either encore opener or closer

[ornate zenith]

Since these are obviously fantasy setlists and not actual hopes for the saviors tour I think this discussion belongs in #greenday-chat

The setlist thing not the mike interview thing

[eager swan]

I think my neighbour complained on me today as I was playing LMNB too loud.. couldn't hear what they said so i just kept playing

[ornate zenith]

Look ma, no October penis!

[celest hawk]

Yea they're talking to him the entire time

Was really interesting actually

making a smoothie?

[plush warren]

Thanks!

[celest hawk]

No problem!

[obsidian harbor]

We’re people gonna be mad if it was for lyrics?

[ornate zenith]

Shit if I were him I’d put lyrics on a teleprompter even if I didn’t think I needed it. Just in case

That’s so many songs to remember the words for

With all the moving around he does he’s obviously not just reading off a script anyway

[obsidian harbor]

Literally

They do so many songs they should have one just in case

[brisk pumice]

Yeah I think it’ll be 99 Revs or Oh Love realistically

[ornate zenith]

This is only the third time they’ve played it since 2013

And it was their most recent single to be in the billboard hot 100

So I can understand why they’d be playing it again

[keen pewter]

I think it’s cool that they kept the two fan requests that they fucked up at the Metro show for the current run of club shows; Warning and Oh Love

[indigo spruce]

does anyone know what three teasers were from lmnb? I know just that the fourth one is in there

because i heard someone say that there are three teasers related to lmnb

[knotty cloud]

here are the teasers

https://www.tiktok.com/@greenday/video/7102209081313643818

https://www.tiktok.com/@greenday/video/7067571379654184238

https://www.tiktok.com/@greenday/video/7043282051637759238

[bold relic]

there is people who going "huhhh u cant even remember your own songs u sucks"

they assumed reading lyrics while playing music live is like just singing at karaoke

[indigo spruce]

Thank you 🙏

[indigo spruce]

These vocals aren't included in the final song though right? A bit sad, because i was really looking forward to hearing this

[obsidian harbor]

I liked the more surf vibes that the first teaser had

Interesting that you can hear the echo of “suicide” on that one (or I guess it could be any word where the last syllable ends in “cide”

[worn gull]

1972 is gonna be lit

I mean Saviors

[obsidian harbor]

Odd they’ve made two references to suicide and two references to slamdance

[ornate zenith]

Must be a slamdance themed album

Zombie slamdance maybe

[obsidian harbor]

I’d say given some of the aesthetic theming, the fact “1981” is in the back of TADIKM music video, lyrical repetitions, and the musical similarity between the outro of 1981 and the bridge of LMNB, there’s definitely a chance this could be a rock opera

[ornate zenith]

Doesn't necessarily mean a rock opera, could be shared themes between the songs but that would arguably just be a concept album, rock operas have a story

[obsidian harbor]

Oh yeah true

But it’s not likely to be like RevRad

[ornate zenith]

I wouldn't call revrad a concept album anyway, a couple songs have similar lyrical themes but just as many if not more veer off into something else and the only shared musical themes really are somewhere now/forever now

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah that’s why I said it’s not gonna be like RevRad, since that was just a normal album

[ornate zenith]

Not getting my hopes up but I'd love something with more cohesion, closest thing really to that we've gotten since 21CB is trilogy songs mentioning red lights flashing and somewhere now/forever now on revrad

Then again that's pretty much as far as american idiot went too

[knotty cloud]

yeas, and i really want to see the making off of this record, cause i'm a nerd to these little things lol maybe this vocals were just a placeholder.

something interesting too is that the song in 2021 were more similar to the trilogy sound than this version released

i just recorded a cover of look ma no brains
https://youtu.be/K9EMbchyQq8

cause i loved this one so hard

this. the album version is gonna be a solid rack at least

[plush warren]

Sounds great!

Guitar is on point

[obsidian harbor]

Do the background lyrics in 1981 say “so long, farewell?”

[subtle ravine]

Fr it sounds so much better

I watched a video of the debut performance and I do believe he couldn't hear himself, he seemed annoyed at one point and he stopped singing for a bit to adjust something in his ear

[worn gull]

What's the joke here?

[knotty crow]

billie seems to forget the lyrics to longview quite a bit

idk if that's recency bias talking but i've def seen it a couple times

[worn gull]

Interesting
I did see that one video where he called a fan up to finish the song, then the fan decided to play JAR (which he killed it on), but I didn't know it was a recurring thing

[knotty crow]

maybe it did only happen the one time

idk

but i swear it's happened more than once

[worn gull]

hmm

[knotty crow]

then again my memory is not to be trusted on anything really

so take that with a grain of salt

[worn gull]

oh ok

[eager swan]

So far we know and heard 4 songs from Saviors.
LMNB is by far my fav and the best thing they've done since revrad

[brisk pumice]

Not really a joke, he’s just been stumbling through Longview a lot lately. It could be a gimmick though

[worn gull]

TADIKM, LMNB, 1981... what's the 4th one?

[indigo spruce]

One eyed bastard

[worn gull]

I'd say it's more likely to be a gimmick. He's been singing it for literal decades, why would he suddenly start forgetting it? Especially on a semi-regular basis

[worn gull]

I thought that was an outtake from

[knotty crow]

it's on the tracklist for saviors

and the leaked demo was recorded post-foam i think

[worn gull]

Interesting

[eager swan]

I think it's not a demo but the mastered version..
So it's quite possible we're gona get the same version

Unless they decided to make some tweaks here and there

[indigo spruce]

Well they have to use another riff, because that one is almost the same as the one from tadikm

[eager swan]

Dafaq?? Lmao no it's not

[indigo spruce]

Yes it is, they're both basically the "So what" riff by P!nk with a few changed notes

The guitar sounds are pretty different though

[subtle ravine]

I just heard both and you could make the argument that they are similar but come on they're not

[fierce trout]

oh they are VERY similar lmao

[eager swan]

Similar but not identical.
And so we got a new song..

[ornate zenith]

One eye bastard is basically the so what line but TADIKM’s riff is the chorus melody with a slightly different rhythm, it would be a reach to say that’s ripped off from p!nk

Take the TADIKM chorus melody and give it some dropkick murphys flair

[indigo spruce]

But they have exactly the same rhythm

[obsidian harbor]

They actually don’t

Like they objectively do not have the same rhythm

[indigo spruce]

Ok maybe that was a hyperbole, but all I'm saying is that I think their similarity is so big that it's highly unlikely the won’t have changed the oeb riff for the album version

[keen pewter]

I do agree that the riffs are a bit too similar to have on the same album

but this is also Green Day we're talking about

and also, maybe the riffs being similar is apart of the album being more cohesive or something? like in the same way 21CB and See The Light have the same opening?

[obsidian harbor]

The riff really just aren’t that similar

The one similarity is that there is a whole step hammer-on

[obsidian harbor]

It was recorded sometime in 2020 after foam, whereas saviors was recorded from 2021 to 2023 so there’s almost no chance the 2020 recording would be on the album unchanged

It’s likely a new recording of it

[keen pewter]

melodically they're pretty damn similar

[ornate zenith]

Most of the similarity is rhythmically I’d say

[bold relic]

an use of a riff as some motif will be interesting

i still want the oeb intro to change though

[eager swan]

I highly doubt they'll change it though

[ornate zenith]

Honestly I think they will, that OEB demo is from when they were still working with butch walker

I bet it'll be pretty different

At least in some noticeable way

[fierce trout]

I thought the track length is the same though

Idk I haven’t been paying attention

[obsidian harbor]

could still have a possibility of being different but I think at most itll have different lyrics

its not gonna be really new though

[deft violet]

Honestly all the song needs is some lyrics changes, especially the chorus, and better mixing similar to LMNB. I'm sure it'll be a banger.

[ornate zenith]

Still a banger even if they keep the riff and just credit p!nk tbh that riff goes hard

[obsidian harbor]

That’ll probably be the case since it would be a bit hard to change the riff completely but keep everything else intact

The mixing will be much better and if the lyrics change I think the song will be way better

[swift flare]

what the fuck

[fierce trout]

do VIP tickets give you pit access

im assuming they do but im scared like what if they just put me in a VIP box or something”vip seating” lol

[ornate zenith]

Helicopter fly-by, no seat

[keen pewter]

depends on the ticket

you’ll know when you buy it, but it’s either a premium floor seat or pit ticket

although I don’t think the VIP packages give you early entry

[fierce trout]

i assume they have both available right

like u either select vip seat or vip pit

because the package just says “premium ticket” whatever that means

and im just getting it to be in a shorter line

and I don’t think the cheapest vip is that much more expensive than a regular pit ticket

[keen pewter]

so for pit, you’ll select the pit section and it’ll show standard admission or the different vip package

and for the seats, they’ll have select seats specifically reserved for the VIP Packages, usually the first few rows

[fierce trout]

oh I see ok

[keen pewter]

personally I don’t think I’m gonna spend the money on VIP and just go with pit

especially since they’re at stadiums, the barricade is HUGE and fits a lot of people

for reference, I showed up during The Interrupters set and ended up 2nd row by the time Green Day came on stage

[brisk pumice]

VIP gets their own merch booth though🥺

[keen pewter]

if you really need to spend $500 just for your own merch booth then be my guest 🤣

[brisk pumice]

Not if there’s an option to preorder merch and pick it up at the venue like FOB did, that was cool

[keen pewter]

when I saw 5SOS there was an option to order merch on the Live Nation app and pick it up at the booth without waiting in line

it had less options than the actual merch booth but still great

[muted oracle]

How early before doors open should you show up in line to get front row chance?

[worn gull]

Hey guys, I just remembered something: Billie only saves the most controversial words like (gay slur) and (black slur) for concept albums like and , so maybe "pdf files" being on TADIKM means will be a concept album

[brisk pumice]

That’s my fear

[keen pewter]

my friend showed up for Hella Mega day of at noon and was the first one in line I think

[brisk pumice]

That’s a wild theory😂 the n slur was used in a mocking quote (not to justify it, it’s wrong either way)

[keen pewter]

Green Day isn’t really a band people camp for so you don’t have to wait super long

[keen pewter]

also my previous message on my wait time

[fierce trout]

SHOULD I REFRESH? its 10am and my screen didnt do anything

oh nvm

312 people ahead of me

[muted oracle]

awesome 🙂 yeah I went to a twenty one pilots concert and people were camping there, but I haven't seen that with the smaller bands I've seen

[muted oracle]

awesome! 🙂

[rancid arch]

Huh, what?

Is it already up?

[fierce trout]

citi presale

[muted oracle]

I got pit tickets for $229 each plus fees in charlotte, is that a good price?

I am broke now

[fierce trout]

uh my VIP ticket doesnt say anything about VIP on it

is this normal

[brisk pumice]

How are y’all able to buy already 💀

[muted oracle]

Citi card presale

[fierce trout]

do they check ID at the door for VIP?

saw some stuff saying that if you got VIP from a ticket transfer it wont work because they check id

(my mom bought the ticket)

[brisk pumice]

Is that only for US

[muted oracle]

It might be. if it doesn't give you the option on yours then you may not have it

[fierce trout]

do they give you VIP merch there or do they ship it to you if anyone knows

i dont want to carry it during the concert

[worn gull]

Well yeah but it's very controversial

[forest crag]

nahh

looks like smth out of deviantart

[indigo spruce]

70 fucking Euros

[keen pewter]

$70 is decent for a concert hoodie

I just paid $85 for one

[indigo spruce]

Ok maybe I'm just used to buying merch from smaller bands

[celest hawk]

I really dig that, I’d prefer this as the album cover honestly

[north temple]

I just bought tix to see them for the first time, and I'm psyched while also shocked that 2 tix in just in front of a general admission lawn were $285 total. My 90s brain is 🤯🤯🤯

[celest hawk]

Look Ma No Brain!

[obsidian harbor]

Looks way worse imo

[knotty crow]

the album cover has grown on me now

i think it’s pretty cool

[obsidian harbor]

It’s better than my initial reaction but I still don’t like it

[eager swan]

LOOK, MA NO HANDS!!
My motto for NNN

[keen pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-4445288

[fierce trout]

Billy Joe

[knotty crow]

apparently the title track is “unremarkable”

interesting

[keen pewter]

ironic snippet of lyrics here

[last glen]

Everything seems like this is going to be an incredibly solid album

[knotty crow]

i guess the title track really sucks if they couldn't even find one nice thing to say about it

[deft violet]

Sounds like Revolution Radio 2.0, which is all I want tbh

[obsidian harbor]

They took it down, I wish someone had archived the site

[knotty crow]

i archived all of the translations for the song descriptions at least

if someone wants me to post them here i can

The American Dream is Killing Me
We already know this song. In fact, the song was released at the end of October as the album's lead single, and is also the opening track. It's the typical Green Day-esque triplet (see Longview or Minority, for example), complete with a short, melodic guitar solo.

Look Ma, No Brains!
Also in order, the second single released is also the second song on the tracklist. It's a much more adrenaline-pumping song than the previous one, in which the great influence that a group like the Ramones has always exerted on Green Day emerges. Short, and lightning-fast.

||Bobby Sox||
||The song starts with slow and somewhat "sloppy" vocals and guitar chords. After a couple of laps, the whole band attacks with a very aggressive sound. Billie Joe gives an almost metal vocal performance in the chorus, very scratchy, à la Chester Bennington (RIP), something rarely heard before by him in the past. The song itself is fun and catchy; there's even something reminiscent of Weezer in the poise and arrangement.||

One Eyed Bastard
Again the triplet rhythm makes an appearance, here more aggressive and "heavy", with a real riff that sounds almost like the Deep Purple of Black Night.

||Dilemma||
||We all know about Billie Joe's problems with alcohol and substance abuse. A little less obvious that he decides to get naked and talk about it in a frank and direct way in a song with an unequivocal meaning. Chapeau.||

1981
Again the influence of the Ramones is very evident, for another direct and energetic song, perfect for live performances.

||Goodnight Adeline||
||Here's the good old I-V-VI-V harmonic turn on the chorus (the one of U2's With or Without You, to be specific - a true passe-partout of pop and rock songwriting). It's the typical Green Day song with slow power chord accompaniment in eighths, very melodic and also passionate, since it also deals with the theme of addictions.||

||Coma City||
||The song tells the dystopian vision of a lawless city in chaos and disarray. It starts with an epic intro with guitar ostinato and drum and bass cuts. It closes with a very intense coda, with a nice drum performance by Tré Cool.||

||Corvette Summer||
||A beautiful declaration of love for rock music in its essence. The song itself is quite simple, almost garage rock, as befits a song with this intent.||

||Suzie Chapstick||
||It would seem to be another song dedicated to the theme of addiction, and probably to a person who is no longer with us. The very melodic guitar chords (complete with acoustic guitar, which peeps out for the first time on the record) have something vaguely Springsteen-esque about them. Of note: the song closes with a major seventh chord, a truly unexpected harmonic finesse for a band that bases almost everything on power chords.||

||Strange Days Are Here to Stay||
||It's the demented-apocalyptic piece that again draws from the spirit of American Idiot. The intro has something reminiscent of Billy Bragg's style: just vocals and power chord in slightly distorted guitar downstrokes.||

||Living in the '20s||
||A song that basically continues in the thematic wake of the previous one. The style is akin to the alternative rock of The Hives and here there is a first, real guitar solo (all on a pentatonic scale).||

||Father to a Son||
||The most moving track on the record. It is based on a very acoustic accompaniment (acoustic guitar, piano, strings) and non-trivial harmonic turns. The almost Beatles-esque string section repeats a beautiful ostinato.||

||Saviors||
||Bizarrely, there is nothing particular to say about the title track. An unremarkable piece.||

||Fancy Sauce||
||The last song on 'Saviors' opens with an arpeggiated vocal and guitar intro that sounds almost like a lullaby. Again we hear the unmistakable I-V-VI-V ride. It closes with a rather long instrumental coda, excellent to hear live.||

[subtle ravine]

This seems really interesting

Based on these descriptions I'm really interested in hearing Bobby Sox, Coma City, Corvette Summer, Living in the 20s, Father To a Son and Fancy Sauce

[fierce trout]

“Bizarrely, there is nothing particular to say about the title track. An unremarkable piece.” 😭😭

[last glen]

That's kinda funny actually. Naming an album after (supposedly) one of the most boring songs on the album

It could also just be this reviewers opinion though too, it could be absolutely amazing and this person just didn't think much of it

[last glen]

Rolling stone one is still up

https://www.rollingstone.it/musica/storie-musica/i-nuovi-green-day-sono-lincrocio-perfetto-tra-quelli-di-dookie-e-quelli-di-american-idiot/809356/

Oh wait, they edited it, it didn't look that way earlier 💀

At least this one wasn't deleted like the other

[ornate zenith]

Can you guys put this stuff in spoiler tags or something please

Basically dropping album spoilers in here

Nothing wrong with talking about it but wholeass descriptions of all the songs on the unreleased album feel like they should at least be spoiler tagged

@knotty crow

Many thanks

[knotty crow]

yeah i'll do the same with mine, sorry i figured because the link was posted earlier people would have seen it already

give me a sec to spoiler the messages

[ornate zenith]

Yeah if people wanted to see it they could have clicked the link but if they didn’t wanna see it and didn’t click it, well then it’s just here in chat hard to avoid

Thank you

And I’m not saying you gotta spoiler all discussion of unreleased songs this just seems to be a bit of a special case since it’s literally a bigass list saying what each song sounds like and what some of the lyrics are. So I guess for now just keep discussion about what’s in that article spoilered

Seems to have been published early or something

[obsidian harbor]

From the way it’s worded I really think there’s something odd about this one

[knotty crow]

i'm really curious to listen to the title track

like even with the other descriptions that are pretty short we at least get some idea of what the songs sound like

yeah it seems like most of the album has a similar energy to look ma no brains

which i'm excited for

[jolly zealot]

says who

[obsidian harbor]

Catch up on the conversation

[knotty cloud]

this could be our insomniac 2.0 with nimrod 2.0 and

just green day fast paced with some diverse in it

[obsidian harbor]

I doubt title track will actually be that boring like it’s being made out to be, especially with how in depth they went into every other song

Like I doubt it’s that much different and bad that it’s the only song that is not noteworthy

[knotty crow]

which if true is kinda disappointing because i always look forward to title tracks the most from albums

that's what i thought

but idk

[obsidian harbor]

Probably the 4th

[knotty crow]

i feel like if there's a third single it'll be 1981 because they've already played it live a couple times

but for post-album singles then yeah

[knotty cloud]

yeah even one eyed bastard is 'remarkable' to the reviewer

[obsidian harbor]

I mean it’s a 15 song album so we could get 4 singles

[knotty crow]

right

[knotty cloud]

ya think?

the deep purple riff seems similiar to OEB demo

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah

Lyrics seem to be the same from the snippet we got

[knotty crow]

i listened to one eyed bastard again earlier and it sounds fine, it just needs a bit of a tuneup

like the piano shouldn't be there, sounds too foam-y for me

yeah

also i hope the chorus is different

because "bada bing bada bing bada boom (x2)" is extremely boring

[obsidian harbor]

I think considering rob cavallo is on this I doubt it’ll be a bland song

[knotty crow]

that's what i'm hoping

the 'roots' of the song are totally fine, it just needed to be tweaked a little bit imo

and with rob at the helm for this album i hope those necessary changes were made

[obsidian harbor]

I still think somethings up with the title track

The way it’s described in contrast to every other song it makes it come off as the song remaining hidden for now

Which would make sense if it’s going to be one of the singles further down the line

[knotty crow]

the short lyric snippet didn't seem too interesting but also it was one line so i can't judge much

but still

that's all we know about the song so what else is there to say lol

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah not much

[knotty crow]

this definitely seems like an album where more of the songs will be played live

i hope it's not another hella mega situation where nothing from father of all was played

[obsidian harbor]

Also I just realized they make note of the singles but only mention TADIKM and LMNB

I feel like just based on that maybe it didn’t release early (or at least not by much)

[last glen]

Can't believe it's only just over 2 months away from now. That time will go by damn fast

[knotty crow]

meanwhile i'm sitting here like "damn 2 months is a long time, i can't wait that long"

[last glen]

Once Christmas/New Years is out of the way, it's basically upon us

[knotty crow]

the album will probably leak at some point

[last glen]

It almost certainly will

[knotty crow]

i remember listening to the father of all leak a little bit before the album came out

[last glen]

It's just a matter of when. Is it a day or two before? Or a week or two? It leaking is an inevitability though unfortunately

[obsidian harbor]

When it leaks I’m gonna have to have a strong will

[knotty crow]

i kinda just wanna listen to it as soon as possible lol

the hard part is gonna be not spoiling it

for other people

[obsidian harbor]

I hope it’s not another warning situation when it comes to leaks

Because that shit leaked SUPER early

[last glen]

For all we know the band might even leak it themselves, look at American Dream and No Brains

[ornate zenith]

I doubt the band is gonna leak their whole album

But when it inevitably does I hope you guys know the drill by now

[celest hawk]

Post it here for everyone to listen?! 😬😬😬

[ornate zenith]

Don’t post any links or file downloads and don’t offer or ask people to send links or file downloads, nor ask or tell people where to find them

[celest hawk]

What’s the fun in that?

😏

[ornate zenith]

Them’s the rules

[rancid arch]

Those lyrics go hard.

Sad that it seems like the leaked OEB version is the final one? Maybe?

[eager swan]

My guts tells me it'll be the same

[ornate zenith]

My gut tells me it won’t since the album and all songs aren’t produced by butch walker

[obsidian harbor]

Yeah it’s almost definitely not the same recording, that was recorded in 2020 at Otis I believe

At the very least we’ll get a higher quality recording with better mixing

And since the album is going for it, it’ll probably be a stripped down version

Yeah probably the same, maybe a few small lyrical changes, maybe slight different musical changes like maybe there are some differences in the bass performance but mostly the same

Because it’s the only thing they can still speculate about I guess

[ornate zenith]

The Saviors version of OEB might be the song I'm most excited to hear at this point honestly

But also I don't know what the others sound like

Yeah

That's beyond wishful thinking

[plush warren]

Yeah I’m waiting

[ornate zenith]

I'm saving myself for god

[knotty crow]

i’m a sinner

if i get my grubby hands on a leak i’m 100% listening to it

i will not spoil the album for anyone else though

[keen pewter]

I listened to both RR and FOA leaks

[knotty crow]

i wasn’t around for revrad’s release but i listened to the father of all leak, i don’t even remember how i found it

[keen pewter]

I remember exactly where I was when I was listening to it

[knotty crow]

“where were you when father of all leaked”

[keen pewter]

in my 6th period class saying “I mean it’s a leak the quality is gonna sound like shit”

nope that’s just the album

[knotty crow]

also 100% not getting leaked here

it’ll be somewhere else

people wouldn’t be talking about the leak in here i don’t think

depends i guess

[ornate zenith]

I listened to Somewhere Now when Revrad leaked then found the willpower to wait

[keen pewter]

I listened to all of it

[ornate zenith]

Zero willpower

[last glen]

Yeah I remember listening to rev rad a couple days before it came out. Blew me away. Love that album

But that was 7 years ago. Maybe I'll have the willpower to wait this time

[ornate zenith]

Fucking shit that was 7 years ago

[knotty crow]

i was 11

good god

[ornate zenith]

babby

👶

[knotty crow]

i still am compared to most others here

[eager swan]

So the next single might be 1981 , given that they have already performed it live 2-3 times.
I was hoping It could be saviors but the billboard review was bad

[obsidian harbor]

I’m still not sure about that

I feel like there’s no way there’s only one song they didn’t find noteworthy

Something feels off about it

[knotty crow]

reviewer probably left the song running while they went to go use the bathroom and then were like "ah shit uhh just say it was mid"

[obsidian harbor]

Could be

[knotty crow]

lmao

[obsidian harbor]

I feel like often Green Day either has an album with no misses or way too many misses

[knotty crow]

at the same time i don't wanna go off of just one review

obv it's all there is rn

but my opinion on this album isn't gonna be decided fully by just one review

[obsidian harbor]

Yea

[worn gull]

So I just checked the tracklist on Wikipedia
Not sure if you guys already saw it or anything, but there's a title track
Of course there is, every Green Day album since has had a title track except for , and

Also, apparently Green Day doesn't own the copyrights to any of their albums aside from and, which is just crazy consider that's 84.6% of their albums, including masterpieces like and
They just don't own the copyrights to any of them, at all

Also the singles are first on the tracklist, wHaT a sUrPRisE

[obsidian harbor]

What the hell are you on about man

[worn gull]

Can't wait for the third single tho, any news on when that's dropping

[knotty crow]

what is bro yapping about

[obsidian harbor]

That’s what I’m sayin

[worn gull]

Yeah, I'd like to know that too

[knotty crow]

no official news, i kind of doubt one is coming though

before the album at least

[worn gull]

but like, there's still over two months before the album drops

they released the first two singles just a little over a week apart

[knotty crow]

maybe like early december if one is coming out

as for what song it is i will be very surprised if it's not 1981

[eager swan]

They own the copyrights to Saviors.. I saw i while i was purchasing a vinyl and a tape

[last glen]

I hope the lyric videos look nice

Wasn't expecting a music video for No Brains so that was a pleasant surprise

[worn gull]

Oh yeah, it's their first album since that they own the copyrights too, yeah

[brisk pumice]

I wanna be on TV want people to love me

I take that back actually

It’s more Records-Weezer

[worn gull]

Or maybe the brief lackluster review was deliberately requested by Green Day so they can surprise everyone with how good the song is. Since people are now expecting it to be unremarkable and have nothing particularly worth mentioning, we'll all be shocked when the song comes out and it's absolutely amazing.

[knotty cloud]

I'm so hyped for this album. Really looking foward to all songs, even that reviewer describing the song 'saviors' as 'unremarkable' made me even more curious about it lol

Really curious about bobby sox and the screaming, coma city and its dystopian vision, dilemma, goodnight adeline, father to a son... some really personal stuff. apparentely billie is not trying to avoid anything here.

Another thing is that second 1972 teaser is probably "suzie chapstick" cause match with the description... the first appearance of an acoustic guitar on the album was reported in the this piece here.

Maybe this album will make some interesting additions in the green day catalog and it will be its own thing.

[fierce trout]

Why didn’t they have the copyrights for most of their albums? Is it because of Reprise?

[worn gull]

Yeah, probably
After all, when they negotiated the contract they didn't know was gonna blow up like it did, and they didn't know they'd end up doing music for so long
Now that they're an established legacy band with loads of prestige, I suppose they simply negotiated a better contract

[ornate zenith]

I just thought that was a leaked review but seems not maybe? Don’t worry about the spoiler thing

[ornate zenith]

Billy Joe

[plush warren]

I’m so excited

They seem so excited which makes me excited

[celest hawk]

Man that really does get me excited for the rest of these songs!

[eager swan]

They did their best when recording Saviors and the last time did was when they did American Idiot.

Does this mean they didn't give their best when recording 21srcbd, triology, revrad??

[subtle ravine]

That probably was just him saying that to make the album more appealing

[knotty crow]

yeah

[subtle ravine]

In Welcome to My Panic he mentioned that they worked really hard on 21st Century Breakdown and that he thinks it's their most ambitious work so

I think he's just saying that to hype it up bc well, everyone knows AI

[eager swan]

I just realised they say that everytime a new album comes out

[knotty crow]

well generally yes artists tend to say their most recent work is their best

or at the very least that it's super ambitious or grandiose or whatever term best fits the album

even if it's not necessarily true it's typically something that's said

[ornate zenith]

They always say some variation of “it’s some of our best stuff yet”

[worn gull]

Musician try not to call your newest album your best album challenge (impossible)

[subtle ravine]

Even with FOAM they did

[eager swan]

I liked the songs on FOAM . Only problem was the production.
They should have let Butch vig or Rob handle it

[celest hawk]

Yea i’d say he’s saying they had the same type of feeling when working on AI… as opposed to 21st where they were coming off a supermassive album with a lot of expectations and a bar set incredibly high not only for the fans but for themselves.

So really just a different scenario and feeling going into creating AI and Saviors as opposed to 21st.

[worn gull]

Y'know, for once it'd be nice to see a band admitting their new album isn't their best and saying that it's just good.

[subtle ravine]

Why would any artist do that tho lol

"Oh this new thing we have coming out is mid you guys don't even bother"

[ornate zenith]

If they say things like that it's a while after it's released

[obsidian harbor]

“Yo this album sucks ass, please buy it”

Unironically I might wanna buy it more if they said that

[knotty crow]

i mean hey at least they’re honest

[obsidian harbor]

“This shit is terrible, I don’t even know why our label is letting us release this. Please buy it”

Like that makes me hella curious

[celest hawk]

Ironically their last record sort of said all of this without saying it

Haha

[worn gull]

@obsidian harbor you have the right idea

[obsidian harbor]

What

[worn gull]

^

[worn gull]

^

[worn gull]

^

[obsidian harbor]

Yea

[worn gull]

^

[obsidian harbor]

👍

[worn gull]

you got the right idea

[ornate zenith]

^

^

^

[brisk pumice]

^

What, you mean the lack of Swedish songwriters doesn’t make you curious?

[worn gull]

Personally, I'm more interested in the lack of trap beats and features

[eager swan]

Billie " I want to buy a t shirt, please buy our new album, pretty please"

[jolly zealot]

Noice

[lofty yacht]

Hell yeah

[worn gull]

It's a Green Day song, of course it's #1 on the rock chart, the problem is that it's not also #1 on the overall music chart

[fierce trout]

that will never happen in 2023

[ornate zenith]

I would be awestruck if awestruck a Green Day song reaches the billboard hot 100 in 2023

Not saying it’s impossible I’d just be amazed

But if they didn’t have a chart topper with any American idiot singles they won’t now

[brisk pumice]

Was Boulevard not a chart topping single?

The thing is it has to be fairly commercial and as much as you want to call them sell outs or badly produced, they havent really made anything too commercial apart from a few attempts on FOAM

[keen pewter]

it wasn’t the top of the charts but it was close

these are their only Billboard Hot 100 songs

[brisk pumice]

Interesting

[subtle ravine]

I was surprised to learn that they've never topped the charts

[celest hawk]

🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[worn gull]

Back in the 70s, rock was always on the top. Even the pop songs were more rock than anything. Now look how bad society's music taste has gotten...

[ornate zenith]

lewronggeneration

[lofty yacht]

This is cringe

For god sake their is so much good music out their that aint just rock

[keen pewter]

shut up man 😭

there’s so much amazing new music out there

[eager swan]

Wha??? I though LMNB would enter for sure

[eager swan]

They still have "father to a son" and you know how their ballads are super popular

[worn gull]

What, like Justin Bieber? That's shit. Not THE shit, just shit. Not Dookie, just plain old shit.
Justin Bieber was the worst thing to ever happen to pop music, second only to autotune.

[keen pewter]

Justin Bieber hasn’t even dropped an album in 2 years, and he’s not the only pop artist in the world

[eager swan]

I still can't get over the fact that people refer to Imagine Dragons as a rock band lmao

[worn gull]

ABBA and Michael Jackson are the only non-rock artists who can even compare to rock musicians

[ornate zenith]

Are you 12

[lofty yacht]

Your on fucking crack

What are you on about

[keen pewter]

??????

[ornate zenith]

These are some immature ass takes

[keen pewter]

bro listen to some more fucking music

[lofty yacht]

DO YOU WAN'T ME TO GIVE YOU A LIST

[keen pewter]

I’ll give you my ranked list of the 120 albums I’ve listened to from 2023

great stuff there

all genres

[eager swan]

Michael Jackson is rock artist. Fact

[worn gull]

Of course not, but Michael Jackson died in 2009, ABBA broke up in 1982 (before coming back for one last album in 2021) and they were the only good pop artists

[lofty yacht]

No.

[ornate zenith]

👶

[worn gull]

The only rock song Michael Jackson ever did was Beat It, plus he's literally the King of Pop.

[ornate zenith]

Can you drop your cold 8th grade music takes in like #music or something, this is the saviors thread

[keen pewter]

Ariana Grande? MARINA? Chappell Roan? Lil Nas X?

you’ve never listened to any of those pop artists?

[eager swan]

The 80's and 90's was such a good time for music.. pop, rock hip hop whatever genre.. the music was dope

[ornate zenith]

Ariana grande spray paints herself brown

[lofty yacht]

What

The

[keen pewter]

yeah but she makes some bops

[lofty yacht]

fuck

[keen pewter]

sweetener is a great album

[worn gull]

All shit. All rubbish compared to Green Day. I'd rather listen to Nightlife on loop for 1 hour than any of their songs.

[keen pewter]

So you’ve listened to them? Since you’re calling them rubbish I’d assume you’ve heard their projects!

[ornate zenith]

Good for you, please let us know when you’ve listened to more than 5 musical groups

[keen pewter]

Chappell Roan dropped an amazing pop record this year. It’s a shame you’ve heard it and didn’t like it though

[worn gull]

Nope. And I never want to.

[keen pewter]

so then why are you speaking on shit you don’t even know

you fucking boomer

[eager swan]

Never even heard of the artist you've mentioned, we'll except for Ariana grande

[lofty yacht]

Okay i get it with like them somewhat but what about like the new Sampha album Lahai?

[keen pewter]

understandable but they’re all great pop artists.

[keen pewter]

‼️‼️‼️

[lofty yacht]

That is an amazing record

[worn gull]

Never heard of 'em

[ornate zenith]

Move this to #music or #random please

[lofty yacht]

Okay!

[ornate zenith]

Wrong channel for arguing with 7th graders

[keen pewter]

i’ll see y’all in #music

[ornate zenith]

About irrelevant stuff

[fierce trout]

Society…

😔

Sorry I didn’t see the convo was moved

[lofty yacht]

Yeah its still going on lol

LMNB May top the charts or at least i hope it will

[keen pewter]

LMNB ain’t getting on the charts

[worn gull]

If people had good music taste, LMNB would be an instant #1 hit, but they don't

[obsidian harbor]

Ong

[worn gull]

It's still going on in #music

[obsidian harbor]

Ok so don’t bring it here

[lofty yacht]

Yeah get back into #music

[eager swan]

What's make you guys so sure LMNB won't be on the charts?? It's fking amazing , i dig it more than TADIKM

They should drop Father to a son, as per records and rumours that song is a tear jerker , it'll make our brains blow out idk

If they drop a song other than Father to a son, then the rumors are fake

Fking green day

Idk why I am angry today

[ornate zenith]

Way less promo and coming out just a week after the first single

That’s why

[keen pewter]

it’s a great song but the marketing is shit