#Saviors Discussion

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bold relic
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I think Sweet dreams sounds better but what we got is fine

barren plinth
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it wasn't that popular outside of existing circles

subtle ravine
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I did LMAO

barren plinth
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wild

bold relic
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fair

barren plinth
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honestly when it came out i was just like "oh they still make music. interesting." and went back to listening to whatever electronic bullshit i was into at the time

azure helm
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in this episode the green day server disowns the revrad fans calls them not a fan

bold relic
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i start from 39/smooth then just random the order

azure helm
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more at 11

barren plinth
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i like revrad!! i'm not saying that at all!

plush warren
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Ok I listened to the riff again and it does sound like the OEB riff but I think they’re using it for a different song bc the tempo and style in how it’s played are way different

azure helm
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dude be quiet majority says oeb is irrelevant

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we hate oeb here

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fuck oeb!!!!!!!!

ornate zenith
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Be cool

bold relic
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wake up in the morning in the sand in the sun

plush warren
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It is really good

subtle ravine
ornate zenith
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There isn’t any consensus opinion on any song

azure helm
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i done got caught its so over for me

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3 weeks until billie personally drops something

barren plinth
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they picked it for Me

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yes

plush warren
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Cool

bold relic
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a week before halloween

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trick or treat for a single (real)

azure helm
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i hope they at least have tre sing one song

subtle ravine
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I like it, it sounds like a slower song like Somewhere Now but much grander

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The intro to somewhere now I mean

ornate zenith
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Sounds kinda celtic

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Tre is a one hit wonder no thanks

subtle ravine
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This might be the big slow song that Billie or Tre (I don't remember which) mentions in one of the teasers

ornate zenith
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Sounds like the lead in to an upbeat song

bold relic
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and mike too

indigo spruce
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I really hope this is another multi part song like Forever Now or Dirty Rotten Bastards

subtle ravine
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Dirty Rotten Bastards is so underrated dude

ornate zenith
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Would be wild for them to tease a long multi part song as the first one lol

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Yeah just based on how music promo usually goes I would advise against getting your hopes on the teaser being a long multi part song

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They’re not Pink Floyd

subtle ravine
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Either way I like how it's sounding, having Rob and CLA back is doing wonders for their sound

bold relic
azure helm
plush warren
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This is random but I hope they do a Zane Lowe interview for this album, I’d really love to hear the whole process on how this album was made

ornate zenith
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Makes enough sense, a Sunday is a terrible day for a press release

plush warren
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I feel like there’s a lot of lore to tell

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Probably sometime this week

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Hopefully ^^

ornate zenith
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Would be nice but at the very least I expect something between now and the 24th or between now and when we were young, I don’t know anything though that’s just hope

jolly zealot
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same

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Green day is different they arent fall out boy or Panic at the disco

barren plinth
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i was thinking of older bands. that are more the same age as green day or older

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i don’t listen to newer things like that

rancid arch
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Weezer’s best music was in the past 10 years.

barren plinth
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never really listened to them sorry

ornate zenith
turbid oriole
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Hes kind of right

ornate zenith
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That one was obviously for you

turbid oriole
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Arguments can be made that green days recent material can make them seem washed up

obsidian harbor
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New album sounds like a good comeback tho

eager swan
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All these modern electronics gadgets and Green day still used an analog alarm clock

barren plinth
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because electronics suuuck

jolly zealot
ornate zenith
last glen
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Really hope the actual title is Sweet (American) Dreams, that's actually kinda sick

jolly zealot
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yooooo

last glen
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Sweet (American) Dreams kinda reminds me of what FOB did earlier this year with So Much (For) Stardust

jolly zealot
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I hope thats not the name of the album

brisk pumice
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it might be a pun and have the album title simply be "American Dreams"

obsidian harbor
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Could be

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Or maybe it’s just the name of the single

jolly zealot
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thas sick

obsidian harbor
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Would be a good cover for the single

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Idk about the whole album

brisk pumice
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That’s me

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🤣

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I’m making another one :3

jolly zealot
brisk pumice
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haha aww it's an old pic of them though:

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wonder what era this is from, I stumbled over it by accident

worn gull
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what 1972 ends up being the album title

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like yes i know billie said its dead but what if hes doin reverse psychology on us

reef oasis
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So whats this about

ornate zenith
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Something will happen on October 24th

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No one knows the rest

reef oasis
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Imagine if its the album release

fair vigil
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We'll get a new single played at WWWY and we'll probably get both that and 1981 released on the 24th

last glen
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I can see it

fair vigil
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I can too

ornate zenith
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I can see one song that day and maybe another in a few weeks or something

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Not two in a few days nah

lethal harbor
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two in one day i hiiighly doubt

ornate zenith
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Yeah I don’t think they’ve ever done that

last glen
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Even if not, I'm sure a second single wouldn't be far behind in November

ornate zenith
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Yeah that’s what I’m saying, the last couple albums they released at least three songs before the album

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I can imagine another song or two before the year is done

brisk pumice
ornate zenith
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Probably just a mailing list

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News

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Emails

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Official promo and press releases and all that probably

brisk pumice
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I could kill to run Green Day’s ECRM😭

indigo spruce
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Green Day horror film finally confirmed

plush warren
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Following after foo fighters

desert crow
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I'm sure that's all coming with the single on the 24th, along with the new tour, and tickets going on sale

plush warren
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I feel like they’re gonna keep hinting at stuff though before the 24th so maybe we’ll figure out a name before then

obsidian harbor
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Considering the ways modern streaming services do singles it’s likely gonna come at the same time as the single

plush warren
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Yeah fs

reef oasis
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I wonder when album

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when he said 1972 is dead, he meant the name right?

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since their birthday had passed?

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or did they restart the album

lethal harbor
# reef oasis or did they restart the album

we don't know for sure, but considering it's been two years since original teasers i think it's safe to assume what we're getting isn't what they were originally planning

jolly zealot
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Noice

lethal harbor
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I still think that's just billie noodling beatles chords but who knows

eager swan
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I think that's their original

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Guys I think we're in for another Rock opera and I can't fking wait

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100% sure "American Dream" is the lead single , just like American Idiot.

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I think they kind of doing some sort of Deja Vu with this album

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Album 7 American Idiot
Album 14 American dream

obsidian harbor
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Also because 1972 would’ve been a bad name

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Also given how long it takes to mix, master, and get all the promotional material and album art made means they probably finished the album maybe super early this year

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And I’m not sure how much of the album changed since the first teases considering just how much they probably have in their backlog

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Since they kinda only did the short songs on FOAM they likely have a lot of longer songs in the backlog considering it’s been 8 years since their last traditional “Green Day” sounding album

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And this album does seem to be a return to that

desert crow
obsidian harbor
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Yeah I think a lot of people would agree that foam was just an album they did not really care about

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When considering it’s 1 minute over the minimum time for an album to be and given how many songs they cut from it, we can kinda assume they knew it wasn’t gonna be good and maybe they wanted to save some of the better songs for later

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Still just speculation

desert crow
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Some of the extra songs were put on Money Money 2020 Part 2 instead, such as Art of the Deal with the Devil, and I think Here Comes the Shock was a FOAM leftover as well

obsidian harbor
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Yeah

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But I think this album is gonna be a big one just because of how much time there has been for them to make the songs

desert crow
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Definitely!!! I looked up FOAM on Wikipedia and it says the sessions went from June to September 2019, And the 1972 sessions I think started in October 2021. Plus Billie had plenty of time during the Covid lockdown in 2020 to write everything for this upcoming album!!!

obsidian harbor
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Yeah either a big album, or a really high quality album

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Either way it seems like a return to form which I love

desert crow
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Or given how much time it's been since speculation began, what about a double album? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

obsidian harbor
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Would be nice but last time they released multiple albums it did not go well

desert crow
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I kinda think the Trilogy era would've been bigger if Billie hadn't gone into rehab after the iHeart Radio incident. Oh Love was all over the radio that summer, And check out the mosh pit getting up on stage at the VMAs for Let Yourself Go https://youtu.be/zJiT1AGTGrA?si=JOBcJcd_Vw4FUveS

Green Day play Let Yourself Go in MTV Video Music Awards 2012
Billie Joe singing in BIOHAZARD state

#GreenDay #VMA2012

▶ Play video
lethal harbor
obsidian harbor
obsidian harbor
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Largest gap we’ve had for a Green Day album right?

desert crow
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Did anyone see their Instagram story? 👀

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Other people on GDC are thinking maybe it's a music video shoot since there's a sign up sheet, So casting?

brisk pumice
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Who’s going to the secret show

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I signed up

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(I wont be in LA I just wanna know)

brisk pumice
obsidian harbor
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I’m gonna be in la next week damnit

plush warren
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The fact that you need a photo of yourself probably means it’s for a music vid

brisk pumice
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Nah let it cook, it may get banger lyrics

desert crow
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Sounds like it's going to be a ballad

obsidian harbor
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Then it better have a nice piano like last night on earth

eager swan
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Guys I m sleeping

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I'll wake up on 24th

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Going into hibernation mode

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Ohh wait I have exam on 24th

plush warren
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I have an essay due on the 24th for my seminar class

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How dare my professor make it due on a national holiday

eager swan
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My least fav is that song where he plays to his dog.

obsidian harbor
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Hopefully I don’t have anything on the 24th

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Oh shit I got an English paper due then

desert crow
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I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! PRINT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

plush warren
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I don’t think it sounds foam-esque at all

plush warren
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That would be great

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Ska beat

jolly zealot
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Music video shoot tmr?

desert crow
lament matrix
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Anyone got an update on what’s going on?

eager swan
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I have a feeling the new music video will suck this time too

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Cus they don't make music videos like they used to.

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I enjoyed videos of FOAM, strangely

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REVrad was meh, still breathing was good

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Bang bangs video was so terrible that it made me wana stop watching their videos

plush warren
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What’s wrong with the bang bang video lmao

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It’s a good mv

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There aren’t many music videos I dislike though

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Even the father of all vid is good imo even though it’s so random

eager swan
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My fav video is Hitchin a ride.
It's so weird I love it

eager swan
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Meet me on the roof video was fun actually, atleast better than bang bang and oh love

ornate zenith
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Walking contradiction video 15/10

lethal harbor
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back in the usa might be my favourite

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video

ornate zenith
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Oh yeah that was an instant classic, shows they can still do it, hope we get something good

jolly zealot
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dangg

bold relic
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the only not great green day mvs i can think right now is welcome to paradise

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they said its live but use dookie ver for sound like what

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also x kid should have got a better video than just some tapes playing

plush warren
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^^^

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They probably can’t say what it was even if they did go

ornate zenith
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Could be an NDA situation yeah

last glen
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Probably a music video. I'm wondering though, is it for the new single? Or the single that comes after? You would think they already would've had the first single video done by now, being this close and all

keen pewter
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yeah they 100% would have signed an NDA

plush warren
jolly zealot
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co

elfin cobalt
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X2. I love the Walking Contradiction, Still Breathing, Holiday, BOBD, and Hitchin a Ride Videos, but I despise the Oh Love one. And I hate the fact they have that video since that song made me obsessed with GD lol.

worn gull
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that's not even an album anymore, that's an EP

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This actually sounds like a really good concept for an album, it makes sense for Billie to do something like that looking back on his entire life now that he's an old man

bold relic
worn gull
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Oh yeah true

obsidian harbor
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Yeah albums are defined by length

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Those 5 songs would need to be 5 minutes each just to reach the minimum amount of an album

plush warren
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Greendaybrazil on instagram posted this

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Apparently someone who went to the secret event said this

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This is good news

eager swan
eager swan
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Just reading his comment makes me feel that way

indigo spruce
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I think it's also not bad to keep your expectations low to not get disappointed

eager swan
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Yeah, last time I set my expectations high , you know what happened

worn gull
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I woke up to a message of love...

ornate zenith
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Setting your expectations high is almost always gonna leave you disappointed

ornate zenith
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But that comment definitely has pretty much zero negative sentiment I dunno how you’re seeing that, I think you’re projecting your own expectations

plush warren
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Yeah I don’t think it’s negative at all lmao

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They also probably can’t say too much legally speaking

rancid arch
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Anyone know the right place to discuss leaks?

eager swan
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There's already a leak?

eager swan
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I don't wana hear the leak.
But if you guys heard, pls describe what it sounds like

ornate zenith
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Doctober Jpenis D

obsidian harbor
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The descriptions labeled it as such and it sonically sounds like foam

azure helm
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chosen one sounds like if they went with 21cb instead of ai for the album cover and said “yes this will be 21st century breakdown part 2”

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its a song is all i will say

eager swan
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Chosen one ??

plush warren
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I heard it too and yeah it’s def fake

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Billie’s voice simply can’t be ai generated and be believable at the same time

plush warren
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Yeah

lethal harbor
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it's a song by viva death

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same thing happened before the network album, somebody took one of their songs and pitched it up claiming it was new network

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sounded more believable last time

lethal harbor
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yeah it's this

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very complex detective work

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i googled the lyrics

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last time this happened nobody thought to do that for like over a week and there was all this hype and discussion over it

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so i was like ok let's just squash this one immediately learn from history and all that

plush warren
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Ikr

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We over here in the album 14 discussion are clearly very patient

plush warren
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Exactly which is why we’re patient

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Also bc we’ve been talking about this album for like well over a year

obsidian harbor
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I was coming to point this out too

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I hope it’s not the album cover though

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Hope it’s just used as a way to tell us they’re playing the new single there

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Also it does look to be the same font as the bold letters

plush warren
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Yeah you’re right about the font I think

plush warren
obsidian harbor
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Hope it’s at least in color

plush warren
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I could picture it but in color

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Green Day is def gonna be pink I’m pretty sure

plush warren
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Yeah for sure

obsidian harbor
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I personally would hate it as an album cover

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I think it just looks boring

barren plinth
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it is really uninspired... but .. i can still somehow see it happening.

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but they wouldn't just drop an album cover on a live show poster like this

last glen
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Maybe the zombie is a character in the music video, idk

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It is October after all, maybe a Halloween video for the single. I'd love that.

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Hoping it's not the cover though

desert crow
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Meet Me on the Roof is actually my favorite song on FOAM

last glen
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We actually need more Halloween songs fr. I can only think of a few classics that come to mind, and that Muse song last year which was actually a banger

desert crow
lament matrix
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They just have to put at least some effort Intro the cover this time.

eager swan
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It's not a bad album cover tbh, but a bit too much for a band like Green Day.
Unless they're making an album about zombie apocalypse or a very dark album

obsidian harbor
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I just think it’s boring so I hope it’s not the album cover

quiet berry
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I kind of like it because the last one was ass on top of ass and this seems more punk for some reason

plush warren
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I would like it in color

indigo spruce
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I can't believe we waited for this so long and in two weeks it's finally here

plush warren
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Ik it feels unreal

eager swan
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Stay safe guys, we must not die until we hear the song.

turbid oriole
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Just got word

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The albums been cancelled

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Sorry

desert crow
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LMFAO, what?

ornate zenith
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You heard the man

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Album cancelled

keen pewter
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y'all don't trust dylan perkins?

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who do you think stole C&V?

eager swan
obsidian harbor
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Those damn liberals canceled the whole Green Day album 🤬🤬🤬

obsidian harbor
eager swan
plush warren
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Beautiful 😭😭

lethal harbor
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i don't think it's green day

indigo spruce
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What would you say if the cover looked something like this?
Edit: Fanart

ornate zenith
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If you post fan art please state in the message that it’s fan art so that people don’t think it’s real

plush warren
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Yeah I can’t tell

jaunty halo
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i agree

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it has no audio 4 me

brisk pumice
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Ooooh

brisk pumice
jolly zealot
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yuhhhhhzeee

brisk pumice
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Oof looks like Zombie is here to stay😂

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Check out the website again they posted another snippet but same audio

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Is that gonna be the album name cuz that’s kinda long, I preferred Sweet American Dreams😡

jolly zealot
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that just what i was gonna say

brisk pumice
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It’s just a weird album name

jolly zealot
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Yeah I guess it might be a concept album about the apocalypse but that is very unlikly

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*likely

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yuh

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its gettin me excited tho

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lol the guitar gives me Irish vibes

worn gull
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holy shit

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green day in their thriller era?!??!?!

indigo spruce
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Conspiracy theory: The album is going to be the sequel to the story from the "Back in the USA" video

plush warren
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BRUH THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGGG

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Song sounds really good so far

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And also yeah ig the MV is zombie themed

brisk pumice
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May have to do with the secret event

rancid arch
jolly zealot
obsidian harbor
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HOLY SHIT IT SOUNDS AMAZING

brisk pumice
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iT’s OnE eYeD bAsTaRd

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Anyways whoever said they were manifesting 21CB sound, you’re a witch/wizard

lethal harbor
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;)

obsidian harbor
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If you turn your volume really up you can hear something fading in at the end

brisk pumice
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HOW THE F—

lethal harbor
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i knew we'd get 21CB sonics from the engineer and mixer but the riff being so 21cb?? i'm just actually jesus

obsidian harbor
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Or maybe just a random pad synth

lethal harbor
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yeah i wonder if it transitions to another song or something

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the fade out sounded like it was just for this at first but yeah the strings under the reverb tail are interesting

obsidian harbor
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Yeah I can’t tell if it’s the opening riff or the end of the song

obsidian harbor
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But it sounds very much more like a hard intro

brisk pumice
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If we’re going off the 21cb theme they reuse riffs throughout the album anyways

obsidian harbor
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True

brisk pumice
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Song of the century, american eulogy, see the light, and breakdown

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I reckon itll be the same kinda thing

obsidian harbor
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Which I’m her for

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I love 21CB

brisk pumice
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Then again didnt people say RevRad was gonna be like 21CB

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And it wasn’t really

obsidian harbor
lethal harbor
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we don't know for sure

brisk pumice
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Maybe this is the RevRad we were supposed to get

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👀

lethal harbor
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revrad had 21st century moments with just general the who influence at times

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but wasn't really the same scope

obsidian harbor
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At the very least this sounds like 21CB and Billie previously joked that he might have to make another rock opera if the world kept being really fucked up

brisk pumice
brisk pumice
sly ruin
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I fucking love the riff man

obsidian harbor
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I believe he did joke about that which is either just a joke or a nod to them making another one (I think it’s likely just a joke)

obsidian harbor
lethal harbor
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i'm curious as to how the vocals will sound because one of my favourite things about 21cb is some of those clean af vocals like gloria, last night on earth etc

sly ruin
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I’m not religious but I’m praying so hard that it’s gonna be another rock opera

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Whatever it is, fuck, it’s straight off 21cb and I’m hyped

lethal harbor
sly ruin
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How do they make such American sounding riffs? Like you hear that riff (and the 21cb one), no context, and you’re like “oh yeah that’s America right there”

lethal harbor
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i'm not necessarily hoping for a rock opera cause they've kinda been there and done that, but the thing having a concept would be sick

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i wouldn't say it sounds american at all

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more like irish

sly ruin
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I guess I can hear the Irish, but the America really comes through for me

obsidian harbor
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I mean the Irish were the first people the US kinda abused

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But yeah they do sound weirdly “American”

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Unsure of how

brisk pumice
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Ngl now with all that zombie imagery I see the album cover being another hand moment like AI but it’s like, coming out of the ground holding a burning flag or summin

sly ruin
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Ooh I love that

pulsar egret
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Whats it gonna be called

brisk pumice
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I knew I saw it somewhere

sly ruin
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But it’s a bit long

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I’m just happy it’s not called 1972

pulsar egret
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It’d be funny if it’s called 1988

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Cause that’s when they put out their first EP

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My bad meant 1990

sly ruin
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Id sob

pulsar egret
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Have we gotten any snippets of like what the opening track sounds like?

pulsar egret
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Or email

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Whatever

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The only thing I’m hoping for, is that this album won’t be like their current albums

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Cause like I love 21st century breakdown, and revolution radio, but I just wanna see them go back to their roots

sly ruin
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Like it’s not even similar to the national anthem right?

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For some reason I’m blanking on what it sounds like

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I’m so American as you can see

pulsar egret
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Probably just cause like Billie Joe Armstrong is a REALLY American sounding name

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No but it adds somehow

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And the fact that some of their newer stuff kinda feels more politically driven in a way?

azure helm
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i think there should be a song that everyone hates and so does the band that they never play it live

sly ruin
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Well just listened to the national anthem

azure helm
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another politically driven album

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in this american political era

sly ruin
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Is it in the same key?

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Maybe?

azure helm
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this album gonna be wild

sly ruin
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I’m so excited

azure helm
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last time on political green day: trump bad..... treuncool treuncool

next time on political green day: literally everything in america has fucking fallen apart holy shit shock shock shock shock

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wait did they change the form

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great googly moogly i'm one of the special ones

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i hope billie gives me an expired bag of oakland coffee

sly ruin
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I hope we get a miniature horny figurine

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That got crushed in the mail

azure helm
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imagine if they did just give us scratched up foam cds

brisk pumice
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Fermented coffee

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I wonder if they’ll ship to the UK

azure helm
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st jimmy comes back

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as a zombie!!!!!

bold relic
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with this american dream thing i think its gonna be connected in some way to AI

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just directly or not

obsidian harbor
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If it connects to their past albums I think it’ll be kinda dumb

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They’ve joked that they were gonan name foam American idiot part 2

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Which I think was more about the album quality but I think it would be dumb to have any follow up to old albums

plush warren
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I don’t think it’s gonna connect to any past albums

obsidian harbor
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Me neither

simple oxide
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one think I am praying to god that Green Day does not do is fall into the trap of over produced drums

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so many pop punk bands nowadays release albums with insanely loud and almost fake sounding drums and it kinda pisses me off

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new blink album is a huge culprit

lethal harbor
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won't happen

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it'll sound like ai/21cb in terms of drum sound

simple oxide
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sweet

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the little snippets theyve given us and the teaser videos all sound really good, and i have genuinely high hopes for this album

last glen
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Is it just me or is anybody else getting major 21CB vibes

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Hell there's even a burning car

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OK yeah reading up and a lotta people see it

last glen
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I could see them being like "20 years later and somehow things are even worse"

plush warren
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Idk as long as the songs are good then that’s all that matters lol

turbid oriole
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I like the zombie

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I wouldnt mind if its prominent on the cover or merch

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Wouldnt mind if it wasnt either

plush warren
#

Omg yeah you’re right that’s way too blurry

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How dare they do that to us 😔

obsidian harbor
#

I don’t know why it would be in there though

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At least not a track list in relation to the album

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Considering they’re practicing and there’s a list of songs it’s probably the set list for WWWY

desert crow
eager swan
#

They should change the set list.
Really getting tired of it

brisk pumice
#

My boyfriend asked “is that Blink” and I nearly broke up with him

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Apparently Tre looks like Tom DeLonge

indigo spruce
#

Mike definitely got that blink drip with the backwards cap

keen pewter
#

there’s two different setlists here

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the one in the left is simply the Dookie tracklist

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the one on the right looks like an official setlist… I’m able to make out:

IDIOT
HOLIDAY
?????
BOULEVARD(?)
BURNOUT

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so maybe the WWWY setlist?

brisk pumice
#

I’m curious how they plan on “upping the ante”

hallow creek
brisk pumice
#

Like, I think there’s a secret show like they usually do for album releases but it’s different to WWWY

jolly zealot
#

if you enter in new green day album cover in the bing ai image generator there has been multiple times it has been zombie themed

ornate zenith
#

Probably because those image generators are trained on already existing images

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And the latest green day released art stuff has been zombie related

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Probably would've been dice or bed related if you did it a month ago

jolly zealot
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oK THAT MAKES SENSE

indigo spruce
#

My man looks so evil here

ornate zenith
#

Someone look at that with 3D glasses

hallow creek
quiet berry
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they might do what judas priest did and announce the album's release date but the single comes out on the 24th idk

obsidian harbor
#

I presume when the single drops it’ll be in the ways streaming services do it now, which would give us album name and art, track listing, and release date

desert crow
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Although some singles have their own art

plush warren
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MV looks really cool so far

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But the song sounds Irish so I wonder how that is gonna sound in the video 💀

obsidian harbor
#

I mean I think I think your over exaggerating a bit

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I just hope the whole album doesn’t go for this zombie aesthetic although it seems more than likely that it will

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Hope it’s just used as an allegory in this one music video

keen pewter
#

I don’t see how they could possibly make an entire album about zombies

ornate zenith
#

I would 100% put it past them to make an album about zombies

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Criticize it all you want but it wasn’t anywhere near the same idea as a themed album all about zombies

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As far as I know the “dumb idea” there was put several mediocre to okay songs in an album together

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Zombie album is probably a dumber idea

keen pewter
#

I’d bet money that it’s going to be a commentary on the modern American society, probably comparing it to a dystopian/apocolyptic world

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that feels brutally obvious to me

worn gull
rancid arch
worn gull
obsidian harbor
worn gull
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Cool

turbid oriole
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The new Green Day album will promote Maoist thought

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It will uphold zedong thought

obsidian harbor
#

What the fuck are you talking saying man

indigo spruce
turbid oriole
azure helm
#

green day:

we're communist now

eager swan
#

I'm gona jerk off to album 14's art cover

elfin cobalt
rancid arch
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Yeah, the riff from the teaser is the exact same as the one on OEB.

ornate zenith
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They’re in different keys

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And one is major and the other minor

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Kinda similar but also pretty different. It would be a major rework if they’re the same song

plush warren
#

No chance they’re the same song

ornate zenith
#

Seems pretty unlikely they're the same song yeah, we know they've repurposed melodies and lines from older scrapped stuff before though. but also pretty different in that sense

obsidian harbor
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They’re very different

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Also I don’t think OEB is really the type of song that would warrant the type of buildup we hear

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Buildup is similar to 21CB and See The Light

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And given the fade off into a pad at the end it’s likely the end of the opening song

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I severely doubt it’s OEB thoigh

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Also imo the teaser has way too much bass

brisk pumice
#

Bruh not the OEB debate again

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OEB was also just a leak, who’s to say they didn’t scrap that version and rewrite it in a different key and call it something else like two eyes love child

jolly zealot
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yo

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what is this

brisk pumice
#

Looks like Billie’s halloween fit from a few years ago

jolly zealot
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okay

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i was wondering

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it was on reddit i thought it might be new

plush warren
obsidian harbor
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It’s far louder than their other albums and I guess it just depends on whether the guitar is quiet or if the bass is loud

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I hope it’s just the guitar being quiet for the riff

plush warren
#

Yeah I like loud bass idm

desert crow
#

One week from Tuesday guys!!! The new era is finally upon us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

eager swan
#

I hope I'll be still alive then.
Imma stay inside my room playing games , you never know what'll happen 😭

worn gull
#

The website just updated

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green day in their thriller arc rn

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I dont think the world is ready to see zombie billie

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new logo too

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WAYYY better than the FOAMF era logo too. i smell a redemption arc incoming

worn gull
indigo spruce
#

I desperately need dark and gritty green day music in my life

last glen
#

New logo kinda reminds me of a mix between the Nimrod and 21CB logos

eager swan
#

I dig that font

pulsar egret
#

Nothing else

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The bass was Audible since 1990 up until 97

subtle ravine
#

I would say until 2000s, it was still really prominent on Warning

pulsar egret
#

Yeah but then it started to get quiet after American idiot

subtle ravine
#

Yeah American Idiot was the last time you could really hear it

pulsar egret
#

If you wanna hear the bass fully, 39/smooth, kerplunk, dookie, and insomniac almost always have the bass. That also includes the sweet children EP

plush warren
jolly zealot
#

i love all 3 of those songs

obsidian harbor
#

Hm

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Idk how I feel about this new tease

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The first teaser sounded phenomenal but this one

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Not sure

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But then again it just sounds like the second half of the chorus

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Or maybe just the outro

brisk pumice
#

It’s so Tre x 21CB

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Like Static Age mixed with 99 Revolutions

obsidian harbor
#

Kind of

plush warren
#

BRUH I LOVE IT

obsidian harbor
#

I’m not sure I like the sound personally

brisk pumice
#

I’m getting a bit of RevRad

plush warren
#

Billie sounds amazing

obsidian harbor
brisk pumice
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yeah idk something about the key its in is throwing me off, I do like the vocals more

#

no more falsetto🥹

obsidian harbor
#

It just still sounds kinda toned down

subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
#

His falsettos are pretty good but they were badly used in foam

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Sprinkling them in is nice

subtle ravine
#

Yup

obsidian harbor
#

Oh love has that amazing falsetto moment which just sounds beautiful

brisk pumice
#

That’s what i meant

#

Like FOAM was a bit of a jump scare

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Ngl

slow crest
#

I love it I love it I love it

#

I’m hyped lmao

obsidian harbor
#

Something just sounds weird to me

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Maybe it is that Tre kinda sound

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But I’m not sure

brisk pumice
#

I think we have to hear the whole song

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah this is definitely the outro so it’s gonna sound a bit weak

brisk pumice
#

I’m certain the snippets dont do it justice

obsidian harbor
#

I think it’s the presence of the guitar that sounds off

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The guitar is a bit buried

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Which may just be to show that this is a more bass driven song

brisk pumice
#

Eh yknow what no, it’s pretty sick

brisk pumice
subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
subtle ravine
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True

brisk pumice
#

Because I thought the one where Billie was waking up in bed sounded a bit different even though they were the same riffs

obsidian harbor
#

That’s likely the intro

brisk pumice
#

Like the second time they released the intro it sounded better?

obsidian harbor
#

I don’t see how the two teasers are the same song though

subtle ravine
#

Me neither

brisk pumice
#

Oh, they’re definitely the same song

obsidian harbor
#

Well yeah they definitely are

subtle ravine
#

I'm trying to connect them in my head but idk lol

obsidian harbor
#

But I just don’t see it

subtle ravine
slow crest
#

What happened

obsidian harbor
slow crest
#

Idk if it’s just my wifi

brisk pumice
slow crest
#

Lmao

brisk pumice
#

It’s Monday, it should’ve been released tomorrow surley

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For a week left lol

slow crest
#

Billie’s vocals sound incredible

brisk pumice
#

I’m predicting some “woah’s”

#

To the riffs

subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
#

I heard the intro vs this teaser and they’re definitely the same song

#

The buildup has the same exact sound that main guitar was just very confusing

#

Because of how different of a tone it has

slow crest
#

Sounds like classic Green Day to me lol

#

Very American idiot/21CB influenced

subtle ravine
#

Reminds me of RevRad which is a good thing

slow crest
#

We getting peak

brisk pumice
#

You know it’ll be good when you think you’ve heard the song before on one of their past albums but you actually havent at all

obsidian harbor
#

True

#

I just hope the guitar isn’t as buried in the entire album as it is in this teaser

#

I hope it’s just a bass centered song (or chorus at the very least)

subtle ravine
#

I liked how the guitar was mixed in RevRad and I hope they go for something like that

slow crest
obsidian harbor
#

Yeah It just sounded a bit off

#

I said it before the teaser when I said it sounded like more bass than their normal sound

#

And clarified maybe the guitar is just quiet

lethal harbor
#

very very similar balance to 21cb

#

from the small clips so far

simple oxide
#

rob cavallo is back so i trust this album should sound a lot better production wise

lethal harbor
#

i wouldn't say the guitars sound buried at all

subtle ravine
#

Man I'm so ready

simple oxide
#

theory used to be that they would release a single before WWWY but thats only in a few days so im not sure

lethal harbor
#

it'll be next tuesday

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they might play something new live at the secret show/wwwy though

subtle ravine
#

Kinda odd that it's on a Tuesday and not the usual Friday

lethal harbor
#

they don't ever release album singles on fridays

subtle ravine
#

Yeah but that's when music is usually released

obsidian harbor
lethal harbor
#

just saying it's not something they've ever done lol so not exactly unexpected

#

for studio albums

#

at least not for years and years

subtle ravine
#

Ohhh yeah that makes sense

lethal harbor
#

usually they debut the lead single on some rando radio station lmao

#

and then streaming gets it pretty much after that

simple oxide
#

interesting

subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
#

They’re doing something that objectively hurts the potential performance for the single

lethal harbor
#

it really doesn't make a huge difference

#

for small artists sure

#

for a huge band like green day the music will speak for itself a couple extra days of chart numbers won't make a diff

obsidian harbor
#

But I mean before streaming albums were commonly released on tuesdays

simple oxide
#

im pretty sure every green day album from dookie to revolution radio topped the bill board chart for at least a week. dont know about father of all

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and i might be making that up but it sounds right

#

what im saying is I think it should do well anyway

lethal harbor
#

yeah they pretty much always jump to #1 for at the very least the release week

#

in the uk at least

#

not sure about billboard

#

album chart that is

#

would be nice to see them on the top singles charts again but i can't see that happening

subtle ravine
simple oxide
#

for the band not the album

subtle ravine
#

Is Father of All still the lowest selling GD album tho?

#

Last year I'm pretty sure it didn't even crack a million

obsidian harbor
#

Idk but tre is also in contention for worst performance

simple oxide
#

it probably doesnt help that streaming is the go to way to listen to music now

subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
#

Tre might be worst

#

39/smooth got rereleases after, foam was questionable but people bought it

#

Tre got low sales because uno and dos both left people dissatisfied

#

And people didn’t wanna buy a third album for more of the same

#

So I think tre has the most arguments for worst performing

subtle ravine
#

Also it didn't get that much promotion from what I understand

#

Dos and Tre got pretty buried bc of all the stuff going on with Billie at the time

#

That's what I've heard at least

obsidian harbor
#

Greendayfm ranks foam as the lowest

subtle ravine
#

Yeah that's unsurprising

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah given they couldn’t tour for promotion and the fact it overall sounded kinda bad

subtle ravine
#

I think that the bad sales is probably another reason the band just ignores FOAM

#

Sucks tho cuz I think Sugar Youth and Graffitia would be awesome live

obsidian harbor
#

Maybe idk I haven’t finished the album

#

But I think title track and fire ready aim would be great live

simple oxide
#

they were alright

#

i dont like that billie decided not to play guitar for them tho

#

he just walks around with a mic

subtle ravine
#

Fire Ready Aim got played live once and it didn't sound super great

obsidian harbor
subtle ravine
#

It sounded like Billie was straining his voice

obsidian harbor
simple oxide
#

yeah

#

for a few concerts back in 2020 his voice sounded pretty shitty

subtle ravine
subtle ravine
#

That one was rough

obsidian harbor
#

He doesn’t normally play st Jimmy either

simple oxide
subtle ravine
#

At least he's got a cool jacket...

simple oxide
#

especially because apparently the people at this performance were promised a concert but they only played one song and then ran inside the stadium

#

pretty sure i heard that somewhere

obsidian harbor
simple oxide
#

they do king for a day all the time

subtle ravine
obsidian harbor
simple oxide
#

somethin like that

simple oxide
obsidian harbor
#

Yeah and I think he stopped playing on jaded after he got off speed

simple oxide
#

I do gotta say tho even with that horrible fire ready aim performance, this 2022 lollapalooza concert was absolutely fuckin awesome https://youtu.be/sO_CM7EVOmE

Green Day - Lollapalooza 2022 - Chicago, USA - July, 31
Setlist:

  1. American Idiot
  2. Holiday
  3. Know Your Enemy
  4. Boulevard of Broken Dreams
  5. Longview
  6. Welcome to Paradise
  7. Hitchin' a Ride
  8. Rock and Roll All Nite (KISS cover)
  9. Brain Stew
  10. St. Jimmy
  11. When I Come Around
  12. Waiting
  13. 21 Guns
  14. Minority
  15. Knowledge ...
▶ Play video
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he nailed it here

subtle ravine
#

For real

#

Life is Beautiful from 2021 was also pretty great

simple oxide
#

yea that was pretty good

#

still dont like how billie is dressed like a GTA character in that one tho

subtle ravine
#

FR LMAO

simple oxide
#

i guess that was their FOAM style tho

#

the rich people look

subtle ravine
#

I remember I was really concerned about Billie's voice when watching the album release party in 2020, but since then he's been sounding pretty good

simple oxide
#

yea

#

i hope hes still off drugs

#

i hate to say this but I hope him being sober wasnt why foam was so bad

#

drugs = good song writing

subtle ravine
#

He did RevRad when he was sober too

#

And that one was good

simple oxide
#

alright sweet

#

revo is my favorite album lol

subtle ravine
#

Same

simple oxide
#

besties

subtle ravine
#

I still don't know how FOAM happened lol

#

I mean it had some okay ideas I guess

#

But the production on that killed it

simple oxide
#

nah idk. if 1990s Billie heard foam and was told he wrote it he'd probably kill himself

subtle ravine
#

I believe that FOAM could've worked as a Foxboro album

#

With different production of course

simple oxide
#

fo sho

subtle ravine
#

Stuff like Meet Me on the Roof reminds me a lot of Mother Mary, for instance

#

Also, I hope they never play Oh Yeah live ever again

#

That song is okay but man live it just sucks

#

Billie sounds so out of it in every performance of it LMAO

simple oxide
#

oh yeah and nightlife are probably the worst green day songs imo

obsidian harbor
#

I’m still apart of the belief that foam was purposefully ass

subtle ravine
#

I wouldn't put it past them lol

simple oxide
#

revolution radio to FOAM was literally the biggest drop of quality ive ever seen in music

#

ridiculous

plush warren
#

I agree lol

subtle ravine
#

Like the difference between RevRad and FOAM is so striking

#

They must've known what they were doing

plush warren
#

I like foam but it obv isn’t their best work and they know that

obsidian harbor
#

Billie said they cut a lot of songs from foam so I wouldn’t be surprised if they saved their better songs from that production

subtle ravine
#

From what I've heard some songs that were left off of FOAM got reworked for Money Money 2020 part 2

#

And that album was awesome

plush warren
#

I knew foam was a fluke as soon as MM2020pt2 came out

#

Like that album is so good

simple oxide
#

funny thing is that they scrapped cigarettes and valentines because they didnt like it but ended up still releasing FOAM

#

and you know cigs and vals was probably way better than foam

plush warren
#

Prob

subtle ravine
#

Definitely

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah that’s also why I believe foam was purposefully bad

plush warren
#

I forget the documentary but someone close to them said they loved cigs and vals and didn’t get why it wasn’t released

#

I feel like for the AI 25th anniversary we’re gonna get the original cigarettes and valentines

subtle ravine
#

I hope so dude

#

That would be such a historic moment

obsidian harbor
#

It would

plush warren
#

Bc those in a way are kind of AI’s “demos”

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah kind of

lethal harbor
#

nobody knows for sure but all evidence suggests that c&v was never actually a complete album

obsidian harbor
#

But also the fact they’ve released outtakes from previous albums makes me excited

lethal harbor
#

so idk what they'd release

#

just any extra songs we haven't heard from those pre AI sessions ig

simple oxide
#

apparently lots of c&v songs are already released, such as youngblood

lethal harbor
#

youngblood was written during 21cb tour

simple oxide
#

ah ok

lethal harbor
#

but you're right we've heard quite a few already

subtle ravine
#

Is it true that Too Much Too Soon was from c&v?

#

I've heard that claim before but idk how true it is

lethal harbor
#

yeah it probably is

obsidian harbor
#

Hearts collide and lights out definitely were

#

Just from the way it sounds

simple oxide
#

lights out is a very good song

subtle ravine
#

Oh yeah I can totally hear it on hearts collide

lethal harbor
#

the thing is that it wasn't really an album as such, they just wrote some songs that they didn't like that much meanwhile they'd done i think one or two AI tracks and realised that was the direction they were gonna go in

#

but yeah those are some of the songs

simple oxide
#

on god

lethal harbor
#

i'm still not convinced the song cigarettes and valentines was even from then

#

the lyrics sound like billie's writing post AI to me

obsidian harbor
#

Wasteaway, sleepyhead, and cluster bomb were all confirmed to be warning outtakes and were mentioned as being on cigarettes and valentines so there’s that

lethal harbor
#

yeah so again it's just like those were the songs they were working on at the time

#

but not really like a fully realised thing

simple oxide
#

was cluster bomb changed to letterbomb or are they two different songs?

lethal harbor
#

letterbomb was probably one of them that made them realise AI was what they should've been doing

#

as far as we know clusterbomb = letterbomb

#

but not sure if there's any solid proof of that

obsidian harbor
simple oxide
#

same

obsidian harbor
#

Just considering how different it sounds from the rest of AI

subtle ravine
#

They really should give us more info about Cigarettes and Valentines at some point bro like we've been speculating for so long

simple oxide
#

the suspense is killing me

#

just like the american dream

lethal harbor
#

there's a lot of info about what was going on at that time with the band, you just gotta look for it

#

anyway let's keep this vaguely on topic

obsidian harbor
#

I mean didn’t they literally say they had the masters of the album?

lethal harbor
#

there were never any masters

obsidian harbor
#

So where is the evidence you keep saying exists?

lethal harbor
#

in that the album never really existed and certainly was never stolen

simple oxide
#

they said tapes were stolen not sure if they were demos or masters

#

ye

lethal harbor
#

the thing about it being stolen was just their excuse as to why the thing they'd been teasing fans about wasn't happening

obsidian harbor
#

Yeah it definitely wasn’t considering the recording studio said so

lethal harbor
#

meanwhile they were jumping into AI

simple oxide
#

alright i knew they made up the stealing of the tapes but I assumed there were still tapes

#

maybe not

obsidian harbor
#

Because that’s a large claim

simple oxide
#

true

lethal harbor
#

read nobody likes you

obsidian harbor
#

I don’t see any connection

lethal harbor
#

because the book literally explains a bunch of stuff that happened during that era pre AI

#

without spelling it out directly it's a lot of context

#

there's also an interview with mike somewhere where he explains it too

#

from some radio thing or something at the time

obsidian harbor
#

I just don’t see any reason why the claim “cigarettes and valentines wasn’t a real album” has credence to it

lethal harbor
subtle ravine
#

That's true, I remember when they mentioned that song when talking about FOAM but it ended up being replaced with Take the Money and Crawl I'm pretty sure

lethal harbor
#

at least that's the way it looks based on all the info we have

#

yeah exactly

#

they were just writing a fuckton of stuff at the time and didn't know where to go with it

quiet berry
#

sounds promising like 21cb mixed with revrad

azure helm
#

the american dream is killing me ‼️‼️‼️‼️

#

single name or album name place your bets

#

me too

#

dog i would actually destroy all of my cds if album 14 is the american dream is killing me

#

sweet (american) dreams is better fight me

abstract grove
#

well we know the lyric in the song is the american dream is killing me, so my bet is on the single being called that. and since they also revealed sweet (american) dreams title on the initial announcement, my bet is on single = the american dream is killing me, album = sweet (american) dreams

obsidian harbor
#

I wish it didn’t have the parentheses

plush warren
#

Honestly I thought the album could be called Wake Up Call

#

Bc of the thing “register for a wake up call”

#

Honestly would make sense as a political title

#

Me too I’m so excited

#

Literally counting down the days until the 24th

abstract grove
#

I also think there is a 1% chance the album will be called "1972 is dead", as Billie would then have made an epic troll on all of us by revealing it months early

plush warren
#

That actually would make me cry 💀💀

rancid arch
#

That song sounds so much like East Jesus Nowhere!

last glen
rancid arch
#

21CB is my favorite album, so that’s wonderful.

#

“All the dogs who never learnt to read” has a similar melodic pattern.

desert crow
brisk pumice
#

I KNOW! It sounds like Broken World from the interrupters (at least that opening riff does) god I finally figured out where it was sounding from

jolly zealot
#

very similar to Sweet (American) Dreams

eager swan
#

I don't like how Billie recites the same line twice in the chorus...
But I'll take it, it sounds great.

obsidian harbor
obsidian harbor
plush warren
plush warren
#

Maybe

subtle ravine
#

I listened to the live version of 1981 again in the lead up to TADIKM and man it was better than I remember it being lol

brisk pumice
#

That makes so much sense

vapid fern
#

the leaks as a whole give off a 21cb vibe

worn gull
vapid fern
#

WW

plush warren
#

W

obsidian harbor
#

I hope it doesn’t leak

subtle ravine
#

Oh same

#

I could see it happening but I really hope that's not the case

obsidian harbor
#

Haven’t every single one of their recent albums been leaked?

subtle ravine
#

Yeah

#

I know Foam was

#

Vinyls got out early for that one I'm pretty sure

eager swan
#

This takes me back to the time where i searched the whole internet For the full Revard album before it was released. I was able to get it at the end of the day.
It was a month before the album was released.
My god i was such a nerd but now I m just a piece of crap

subtle ravine
#

I did that with OEB LMAO

#

I'm very impatient lol

#

I did that with FOAM too I think but that wasn't worth it really lol

#

In fact I think my Google Drive still has the files from the FOAM leaks I found but I'm not sure

eager swan
#

I did the same with Foam too but I could only get the bad quality one. Someone recorded it and was uploaded. The whole experience was mehh

obsidian harbor
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Wasn’t warning leaked too?

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Maybe

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I wonder why the Green Day logo wouldn’t be the new one

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I bet they’re gonna play American dream is killing me and a new single

desert crow
desert crow
obsidian harbor
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I’m gonna try not to

obsidian harbor
subtle ravine
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Man Billie's been having his hair blonde for almost the whole year

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He would've dyed it back to black by now

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Not complaining tho I love his blonde hair

abstract grove
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I just hope they don't release the single then make us way a year for the album. hopefully just a couple months for the album

eager swan
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I prefer black haired Billie.

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Why?? One day You're gona listen to it anyways

eager swan
brisk pumice
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BILLIE IS SO HOT OMFG

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Do y’all know how to watch this outside of Brasil? Is it even possible

slow crest
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They’re looking amazing

subtle ravine
subtle ravine
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I think it sounds cool

keen pewter
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I guess technically no since the single wouldn’t be out yet?

subtle ravine
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Man I missed Green Day album cycles

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FOAM's album release cycle was awful but

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This feels more legit lol

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I still remember the whole "nothing says fuck you like a unicorn"

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That was so bad LMAO

last glen
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I'm assuming that it could've come out around now, but delayed it so they don't release it too close to the new Blink 182 album

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January-February album release makes a lot of sense rn

barren plinth
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there is usually a lot of time in between pressing and release

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sometimes months

desert crow
abstract grove
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Maybe. but kind of silly for them to then re-sign with Warner afterward. lol

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I truthfully think Billie just likes to stretch himself creatively and do things that are uncomfortable. If you look back, this has normally worked in his favor. I think he probably knew FOAMF wouldn't be a very popular album but didn't really care because it's what he wanted to do. Now, I kind of suspect he didn't expect it to be THAT disliked and likely this new outing is a purposeful course correction to not alienate all the fans.

desert crow
brisk pumice
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It’s always single in Sept-Oct, release in Feb-March

plush warren
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A delusional part of me is really hoping it’ll come out late November

hallow creek
brisk pumice
obsidian harbor
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Just the amazon music festival thing

brisk pumice
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I found a countdown

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If anyone wants it

jolly zealot
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noice

dense pumice
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Dont think i can watch that in germany 🥲

keen pewter
azure helm
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so is orange the color of this album

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instant reply got dam

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i swear mike makes that same face in every photo

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he looks like he just got caught eating out of a bag of chips that he didnt buy at a store

eager swan
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Apparently the whole song is leaked and it's out there somewhere.

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Should I use my Nerd power to track it down ?

ornate zenith
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Reminder that it’s alright to talk about leaked songs here but not to talk about where to find it or to ask people to share it

eager swan
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Thanks

indigo spruce
rancid arch
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We are so back.

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3:27 song apparently.

obsidian harbor
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It’s zombie themed

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Actually the later parts of the thread seem to hint that it may just be a troll

brisk pumice
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We have the zombies, then the dreams/sleeping, then the gambling/vegas chips, then that

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It’s a bit… Scattered thumbsup

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Maybe it’ll change when they actually release the song but if Green Day wasn’t famous I dont think they would’ve gotten away with it

keen pewter
brisk pumice
keen pewter
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Yeah that’s what I meant. The other two most likely related themes for the single/album

brisk pumice
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The launch should match the tease more though, from a strategic standpoint😅 i don’t mind it but I think it could be better overall

subtle ravine
eager swan
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If the album is about St.Jimmy becoming an undead.. I'm all for it..

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Or maybe the zombie has nothing to do with the album and it was just used as a reference for the single

eager swan
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Errmm chart topper FOAMF ??????

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Really ?? I never realised that

ornate zenith
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It peaked at #1 on the billboard rock albums chart

subtle ravine
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Yeah

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It didn't stay there for long tho

plush warren
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Dude let’s go January

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All of that is good news

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Where did they post this

acoustic geode
plush warren
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Sounds really cool

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Song is gonna slap

acoustic geode
plush warren
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Ah okay thanks

obsidian harbor
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THAT SOUNDS GOOD

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Sounds like we’re in a nice mix of AI and RevRad with a little hint of 21CB

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Nah I don’t think the 90s sound would work now

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The bit of the verse we heard sounds kinda like nimrod

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At least in the way it has a sluggish pace to the beat

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At least that’s what it reminds me of personally

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Unsure but all the promotion has been using the 6 words

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So I would presume it at least wouldn’t be as consistent if it wasn’t the outright title

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But it does sound amazing

subtle ravine
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Does Billie's voice sound higher pitched to anyone else?

obsidian harbor
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Yeah it definitely does

subtle ravine
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Even compared to RevRad and 21stCB it sounds slightly higher

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I noticed that with OEB too

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I wonder if age has anything to do with it

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It sounds great don't get me wrong

obsidian harbor
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Maybe

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Idk what caused but maybe he’s just inflecting his voice in a slightly different way

subtle ravine
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I just notice and nerd out over stuff like that LOL

obsidian harbor
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It’s only at the beginning of the line though

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So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a little thing in there

subtle ravine
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That's cool if it is

lament matrix
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I just hope the sound mixing is better because previous albums have had a really muddled sound instruments.

subtle ravine
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It goes to show that Billie is still pushing his vocal abilities which is admirable imo

obsidian harbor
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And I didn’t think RevRad was too muffled

subtle ravine
lament matrix
obsidian harbor
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Still not a big fan of the zombie theme and hope it’s not an entire album thing

obsidian harbor
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Would make zero sense for that to be the case

subtle ravine
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What if half the album is produced by Butch Walker

obsidian harbor
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It would be the best damn album

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I would love to hear a butch walker mix of American idiot