#Saviors Discussion
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it wasn't that popular outside of existing circles
I did LMAO
wild
fair
honestly when it came out i was just like "oh they still make music. interesting." and went back to listening to whatever electronic bullshit i was into at the time
in this episode the green day server disowns the revrad fans calls them not a fan
i start from 39/smooth then just random the order
more at 11
i like revrad!! i'm not saying that at all!
Ok I listened to the riff again and it does sound like the OEB riff but I think they’re using it for a different song bc the tempo and style in how it’s played are way different
Be cool
wake up in the morning in the sand in the sun
It is really good
OEB is fun tho
There isn’t any consensus opinion on any song
Cool
i hope they at least have tre sing one song
I like it, it sounds like a slower song like Somewhere Now but much grander
The intro to somewhere now I mean
This might be the big slow song that Billie or Tre (I don't remember which) mentions in one of the teasers
Sounds like the lead in to an upbeat song
I really hope this is another multi part song like Forever Now or Dirty Rotten Bastards
Dirty Rotten Bastards is so underrated dude
Would be wild for them to tease a long multi part song as the first one lol
Yeah just based on how music promo usually goes I would advise against getting your hopes on the teaser being a long multi part song
They’re not Pink Floyd
Either way I like how it's sounding, having Rob and CLA back is doing wonders for their sound
Green Floyd
roger joe armstrong
This is random but I hope they do a Zane Lowe interview for this album, I’d really love to hear the whole process on how this album was made
Makes enough sense, a Sunday is a terrible day for a press release
I feel like there’s a lot of lore to tell
Probably sometime this week
Hopefully ^^
Would be nice but at the very least I expect something between now and the 24th or between now and when we were young, I don’t know anything though that’s just hope
i was thinking of older bands. that are more the same age as green day or older
i don’t listen to newer things like that
otay
Weezer’s best music was in the past 10 years.
never really listened to them sorry
@turbid oriole
Hes kind of right
That one was obviously for you
Arguments can be made that green days recent material can make them seem washed up
New album sounds like a good comeback tho
All these modern electronics gadgets and Green day still used an analog alarm clock
because electronics suuuck
agreed
arguments
Ever since warning
Many people are saying
Really hope the actual title is Sweet (American) Dreams, that's actually kinda sick
yooooo
Same
Sweet (American) Dreams kinda reminds me of what FOB did earlier this year with So Much (For) Stardust
I hope thats not the name of the album
it might be a pun and have the album title simply be "American Dreams"
thas sick
Nice Job
haha aww it's an old pic of them though:
wonder what era this is from, I stumbled over it by accident
what 1972 ends up being the album title
like yes i know billie said its dead but what if hes doin reverse psychology on us
So whats this about
Imagine if its the album release
Its not
We'll get a new single played at WWWY and we'll probably get both that and 1981 released on the 24th
I can see it
I can too
I can see one song that day and maybe another in a few weeks or something
Not two in a few days nah
two in one day i hiiighly doubt
Yeah I don’t think they’ve ever done that
Even if not, I'm sure a second single wouldn't be far behind in November
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, the last couple albums they released at least three songs before the album
I can imagine another song or two before the year is done
yup, me too– think the release is gonna be really similar to rev rad
Probably just a mailing list
News
Emails
Official promo and press releases and all that probably
I could kill to run Green Day’s ECRM😭
Green Day horror film finally confirmed
Following after foo fighters
I'm sure that's all coming with the single on the 24th, along with the new tour, and tickets going on sale
I feel like they’re gonna keep hinting at stuff though before the 24th so maybe we’ll figure out a name before then
Considering the ways modern streaming services do singles it’s likely gonna come at the same time as the single
Yeah fs
Yeah def
damn
I wonder when album
when he said 1972 is dead, he meant the name right?
since their birthday had passed?
or did they restart the album
we don't know for sure, but considering it's been two years since original teasers i think it's safe to assume what we're getting isn't what they were originally planning
Noice
I hope we're still getting this song https://youtube.com/shorts/d7jlF3Hze8g?si=uLJpC7qptqcsHzm6
Green Day post their second tease for their upcoming new album or EP called 1972.
View all 1972 teasers: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzvxrsgLxmayzW7rNjayxygkE40c6uYGH
More details: https://greenday.fm/music/studio-releases/album-14/
I still think that's just billie noodling beatles chords but who knows
I think that's their original
Guys I think we're in for another Rock opera and I can't fking wait
100% sure "American Dream" is the lead single , just like American Idiot.
I think they kind of doing some sort of Deja Vu with this album
Album 7 American Idiot
Album 14 American dream
Likely just the name considering Billie said “1972 is dead” in July of this year, too late to reasonably be a restart to an album considering we’re getting something this month
Also because 1972 would’ve been a bad name
Also given how long it takes to mix, master, and get all the promotional material and album art made means they probably finished the album maybe super early this year
And I’m not sure how much of the album changed since the first teases considering just how much they probably have in their backlog
Since they kinda only did the short songs on FOAM they likely have a lot of longer songs in the backlog considering it’s been 8 years since their last traditional “Green Day” sounding album
And this album does seem to be a return to that
I had a theory about FOAM that maybe, given the fact that they cared more about Hella Mega than FOAM, maybe they were given a tight deadline to get the album out in time for the tour, and to have the single out by September 2019 to tie in with the announcement.
Yeah I think a lot of people would agree that foam was just an album they did not really care about
When considering it’s 1 minute over the minimum time for an album to be and given how many songs they cut from it, we can kinda assume they knew it wasn’t gonna be good and maybe they wanted to save some of the better songs for later
Still just speculation
Some of the extra songs were put on Money Money 2020 Part 2 instead, such as Art of the Deal with the Devil, and I think Here Comes the Shock was a FOAM leftover as well
Yeah
But I think this album is gonna be a big one just because of how much time there has been for them to make the songs
Definitely!!! I looked up FOAM on Wikipedia and it says the sessions went from June to September 2019, And the 1972 sessions I think started in October 2021. Plus Billie had plenty of time during the Covid lockdown in 2020 to write everything for this upcoming album!!!
Yeah either a big album, or a really high quality album
Either way it seems like a return to form which I love
Or given how much time it's been since speculation began, what about a double album? OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Would be nice but last time they released multiple albums it did not go well
I kinda think the Trilogy era would've been bigger if Billie hadn't gone into rehab after the iHeart Radio incident. Oh Love was all over the radio that summer, And check out the mosh pit getting up on stage at the VMAs for Let Yourself Go https://youtu.be/zJiT1AGTGrA?si=JOBcJcd_Vw4FUveS
Green Day play Let Yourself Go in MTV Video Music Awards 2012
Billie Joe singing in BIOHAZARD state
#GreenDay #VMA2012
I said that because it's literally a beatles song just with some tiny differences
I mean more critically, the albums would’ve done way better commercially but critically they still fell short because of how bloated they were
Largest gap we’ve had for a Green Day album right?
Did anyone see their Instagram story? 👀
Other people on GDC are thinking maybe it's a music video shoot since there's a sign up sheet, So casting?
I think the photo could be done as anti bot measures since its a form
I’m gonna be in la next week damnit
That’s what I thought too
The fact that you need a photo of yourself probably means it’s for a music vid
same
Nah let it cook, it may get banger lyrics
Sounds like it's going to be a ballad
Then it better have a nice piano like last night on earth
Guys I m sleeping
I'll wake up on 24th
Going into hibernation mode
Ohh wait I have exam on 24th
I have an essay due on the 24th for my seminar class
How dare my professor make it due on a national holiday
My least fav is that song where he plays to his dog.
Hopefully I don’t have anything on the 24th
Oh shit I got an English paper due then
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! PRINT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What that’s my fav
I don’t think it sounds foam-esque at all
Music video shoot tmr?
I think that's the secret event that's actually going on right now as we speak
Anyone got an update on what’s going on?
I have a feeling the new music video will suck this time too
Cus they don't make music videos like they used to.
I enjoyed videos of FOAM, strangely
REVrad was meh, still breathing was good
Bang bangs video was so terrible that it made me wana stop watching their videos
What’s wrong with the bang bang video lmao
It’s a good mv
There aren’t many music videos I dislike though
Even the father of all vid is good imo even though it’s so random
My fav video is Hitchin a ride.
It's so weird I love it
Meet me on the roof video was fun actually, atleast better than bang bang and oh love
Walking contradiction video 15/10
Oh yeah that was an instant classic, shows they can still do it, hope we get something good
dangg
the only not great green day mvs i can think right now is welcome to paradise
they said its live but use dookie ver for sound like what
also x kid should have got a better video than just some tapes playing
Could be an NDA situation yeah
Probably a music video. I'm wondering though, is it for the new single? Or the single that comes after? You would think they already would've had the first single video done by now, being this close and all
yeah they 100% would have signed an NDA
Yeah you might be right that it’s for the next single after the one on the 24th
co
X2. I love the Walking Contradiction, Still Breathing, Holiday, BOBD, and Hitchin a Ride Videos, but I despise the Oh Love one. And I hate the fact they have that video since that song made me obsessed with GD lol.
that's not even an album anymore, that's an EP
This actually sounds like a really good concept for an album, it makes sense for Billie to do something like that looking back on his entire life now that he's an old man
if the song is pink floyd long then its defenitely an album
Oh yeah true
Shortest Pink Floyd song be like: 17 minutes long, 8 separate guitar solos, underrated as fuck
Meanwhile, actual shortest Pink Floyd song: https://youtu.be/Pils34Td_wE?si=JCflikwfP8ZaGeyB
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The Wall
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Yeah albums are defined by length
Those 5 songs would need to be 5 minutes each just to reach the minimum amount of an album
Greendaybrazil on instagram posted this
Apparently someone who went to the secret event said this
This is good news
That guy doesn't seem too excited with the single.
Just reading his comment makes me feel that way
I think it's also not bad to keep your expectations low to not get disappointed
Yeah, last time I set my expectations high , you know what happened
I woke up to a message of love...
Setting your expectations high is almost always gonna leave you disappointed
But that comment definitely has pretty much zero negative sentiment I dunno how you’re seeing that, I think you’re projecting your own expectations
Yeah I don’t think it’s negative at all lmao
They also probably can’t say too much legally speaking
https://youtube.com/shorts/uk9MfHW8oQY?si=ceK5TQ7Ff1rDY1Ff I mean the man said it himself
Anyone know the right place to discuss leaks?
There's already a leak?
I don't wana hear the leak.
But if you guys heard, pls describe what it sounds like
Doctober Jpenis D
The two songs leaked on YouTube and they’re outtakes from foam
The descriptions labeled it as such and it sonically sounds like foam

chosen one sounds like if they went with 21cb instead of ai for the album cover and said “yes this will be 21st century breakdown part 2”
its a song is all i will say
Chosen one ??
I heard it too and yeah it’s def fake
Billie’s voice simply can’t be ai generated and be believable at the same time
Yeah
it's a song by viva death
same thing happened before the network album, somebody took one of their songs and pitched it up claiming it was new network
sounded more believable last time
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yeah it's this
very complex detective work
i googled the lyrics
last time this happened nobody thought to do that for like over a week and there was all this hype and discussion over it
so i was like ok let's just squash this one immediately learn from history and all that
Exactly which is why we’re patient
Also bc we’ve been talking about this album for like well over a year
I was coming to point this out too
I hope it’s not the album cover though
Hope it’s just used as a way to tell us they’re playing the new single there
Also it does look to be the same font as the bold letters
Yeah you’re right about the font I think
Still would be better than the father of all cover
Hope it’s at least in color
Yeah for sure
it is really uninspired... but .. i can still somehow see it happening.
but they wouldn't just drop an album cover on a live show poster like this
Maybe the zombie is a character in the music video, idk
It is October after all, maybe a Halloween video for the single. I'd love that.
Hoping it's not the cover though
Meet Me on the Roof is actually my favorite song on FOAM
We actually need more Halloween songs fr. I can only think of a few classics that come to mind, and that Muse song last year which was actually a banger
Or it's possible it could be the cover art for the single itself
They just have to put at least some effort Intro the cover this time.
It's not a bad album cover tbh, but a bit too much for a band like Green Day.
Unless they're making an album about zombie apocalypse or a very dark album
I just think it’s boring so I hope it’s not the album cover
I kind of like it because the last one was ass on top of ass and this seems more punk for some reason
I would like it in color
I can't believe we waited for this so long and in two weeks it's finally here
Ik it feels unreal
Stay safe guys, we must not die until we hear the song.
LMFAO, what?
Ok sir
Those damn liberals canceled the whole Green Day album 🤬🤬🤬
Green Day
Billie hoe, Mike dork and Tre shit
Beautiful 😭😭
i don't think it's green day
What would you say if the cover looked something like this?
Edit: Fanart
If you post fan art please state in the message that it’s fan art so that people don’t think it’s real
Yeah I can’t tell
Ooooh
Personally I’m not too fond of the zombie ngl, i know it’s a halloween thing but I’d rather not have it on the main cover and merch 😅 I like the overall layout of it though, it’s a good font pairing
yuhhhhhzeee
Oof looks like Zombie is here to stay😂
Check out the website again they posted another snippet but same audio
Is that gonna be the album name cuz that’s kinda long, I preferred Sweet American Dreams😡
that just what i was gonna say
It’s just a weird album name
Yeah I guess it might be a concept album about the apocalypse but that is very unlikly
*likely
yuh
its gettin me excited tho
lol the guitar gives me Irish vibes
Conspiracy theory: The album is going to be the sequel to the story from the "Back in the USA" video
BRUH THIS IS SO EXCITINGGGGG
Song sounds really good so far
And also yeah ig the MV is zombie themed
May have to do with the secret event
I totally see this
Wasn’t there zombie Trump in the MV?
How do we know this?
HOLY SHIT IT SOUNDS AMAZING
iT’s OnE eYeD bAsTaRd
Anyways whoever said they were manifesting 21CB sound, you’re a witch/wizard
;)
If you turn your volume really up you can hear something fading in at the end
i knew we'd get 21CB sonics from the engineer and mixer but the riff being so 21cb?? i'm just actually jesus
Kinda sounds like some strings under some eq
Or maybe just a random pad synth
yeah i wonder if it transitions to another song or something
the fade out sounded like it was just for this at first but yeah the strings under the reverb tail are interesting
Of suburbia 😏
Yeah I can’t tell if it’s the opening riff or the end of the song
Could be a scenario where it’s both and they just repeat the riff
But it sounds very much more like a hard intro
If we’re going off the 21cb theme they reuse riffs throughout the album anyways
True
Song of the century, american eulogy, see the light, and breakdown
I reckon itll be the same kinda thing
People speculated yeah
we don't know for sure
revrad had 21st century moments with just general the who influence at times
but wasn't really the same scope
At the very least this sounds like 21CB and Billie previously joked that he might have to make another rock opera if the world kept being really fucked up
It was like 21CB had a baby with the trilogy
TRUEEE omg I’d kill for another rock operaaa
I fucking love the riff man
I believe he did joke about that which is either just a joke or a nod to them making another one (I think it’s likely just a joke)
It’s fucking amazing
i'm curious as to how the vocals will sound because one of my favourite things about 21cb is some of those clean af vocals like gloria, last night on earth etc
I’m not religious but I’m praying so hard that it’s gonna be another rock opera
Whatever it is, fuck, it’s straight off 21cb and I’m hyped
but that was like his singing peak so i can't see it being as good as that at this point
How do they make such American sounding riffs? Like you hear that riff (and the 21cb one), no context, and you’re like “oh yeah that’s America right there”
i'm not necessarily hoping for a rock opera cause they've kinda been there and done that, but the thing having a concept would be sick
i wouldn't say it sounds american at all
more like irish
I guess I can hear the Irish, but the America really comes through for me
I mean the Irish were the first people the US kinda abused
But yeah they do sound weirdly “American”
Unsure of how
Ngl now with all that zombie imagery I see the album cover being another hand moment like AI but it’s like, coming out of the ground holding a burning flag or summin
Whats it gonna be called
I feel like “the American dream is killing me” would be a good name
But it’s a bit long
I’m just happy it’s not called 1972
It’d be funny if it’s called 1988
Cause that’s when they put out their first EP
My bad meant 1990
Id sob
Have we gotten any snippets of like what the opening track sounds like?
I registered for this, hope I get some promo material in the mail
Or email
Whatever
The only thing I’m hoping for, is that this album won’t be like their current albums
Cause like I love 21st century breakdown, and revolution radio, but I just wanna see them go back to their roots
Like it’s not even similar to the national anthem right?
For some reason I’m blanking on what it sounds like
I’m so American as you can see
Probably just cause like Billie Joe Armstrong is a REALLY American sounding name
No but it adds somehow
And the fact that some of their newer stuff kinda feels more politically driven in a way?
i think there should be a song that everyone hates and so does the band that they never play it live
Well just listened to the national anthem
this album gonna be wild
I’m so excited
last time on political green day: trump bad.....

next time on political green day: literally everything in america has fucking fallen apart holy shit

wait did they change the form
great googly moogly i'm one of the special ones
i hope billie gives me an expired bag of oakland coffee
imagine if they did just give us scratched up foam cds
with this american dream thing i think its gonna be connected in some way to AI
just directly or not
If it connects to their past albums I think it’ll be kinda dumb
They’ve joked that they were gonan name foam American idiot part 2
Which I think was more about the album quality but I think it would be dumb to have any follow up to old albums
I don’t think it’s gonna connect to any past albums
Me neither
one think I am praying to god that Green Day does not do is fall into the trap of over produced drums
so many pop punk bands nowadays release albums with insanely loud and almost fake sounding drums and it kinda pisses me off
new blink album is a huge culprit
sweet
the little snippets theyve given us and the teaser videos all sound really good, and i have genuinely high hopes for this album
Is it just me or is anybody else getting major 21CB vibes
Hell there's even a burning car
OK yeah reading up and a lotta people see it
I think it won't be a direct sequel to anything, but may be connected I'm some ways to AI and 21CB. Just these teasers alone have an obvious similarity
I could see them being like "20 years later and somehow things are even worse"
Idk as long as the songs are good then that’s all that matters lol
I like the zombie
I wouldnt mind if its prominent on the cover or merch
Wouldnt mind if it wasnt either
I don’t know why it would be in there though
At least not a track list in relation to the album
Considering they’re practicing and there’s a list of songs it’s probably the set list for WWWY
That' what I was thinking!!! I heard a chord change
They should change the set list.
Really getting tired of it
My boyfriend asked “is that Blink” and I nearly broke up with him
Apparently Tre looks like Tom DeLonge
Mike definitely got that blink drip with the backwards cap
there’s two different setlists here
the one in the left is simply the Dookie tracklist
the one on the right looks like an official setlist… I’m able to make out:
IDIOT
HOLIDAY
?????
BOULEVARD(?)
BURNOUT
so maybe the WWWY setlist?
This is probably it
I’m curious how they plan on “upping the ante”
With a secret show before WWWY
I dont think it’s that? I thought it’d be more along the lines of playing a new song or a deep cut
Like, I think there’s a secret show like they usually do for album releases but it’s different to WWWY
if you enter in new green day album cover in the bing ai image generator there has been multiple times it has been zombie themed
Probably because those image generators are trained on already existing images
And the latest green day released art stuff has been zombie related
Probably would've been dice or bed related if you did it a month ago
oK THAT MAKES SENSE
My man looks so evil here
Someone look at that with 3D glasses
It was 100% referring to the secret show, that is not a guess it’s a fact. They might play a new song at WWWY, but I highly doubt they’ll tease it on socials before hand
they might do what judas priest did and announce the album's release date but the single comes out on the 24th idk
I presume when the single drops it’ll be in the ways streaming services do it now, which would give us album name and art, track listing, and release date
Although some singles have their own art
MV looks really cool so far
But the song sounds Irish so I wonder how that is gonna sound in the video 💀
I mean I think I think your over exaggerating a bit
I just hope the whole album doesn’t go for this zombie aesthetic although it seems more than likely that it will
Hope it’s just used as an allegory in this one music video
I don’t see how they could possibly make an entire album about zombies
I would 100% put it past them to make an album about zombies
Criticize it all you want but it wasn’t anywhere near the same idea as a themed album all about zombies
As far as I know the “dumb idea” there was put several mediocre to okay songs in an album together
Zombie album is probably a dumber idea
I’d bet money that it’s going to be a commentary on the modern American society, probably comparing it to a dystopian/apocolyptic world
that feels brutally obvious to me
Well, it's post-
Green Day, so of course there's gonna be political commentary
Yeah, ¡Dos! had some truly thought-provoking statements on the political zeitgeist of American thought

Warning was a pretty overtly political album, after the turn of the century they started being less subtle although the trilogy and foam kinda went back on that
Cool
What the fuck are you talking saying man
The tattoo of a log sniffing glue is a metaphor for capitalism
Sorry i been reading to much Settlers
green day reanimates the corpse of lenin in album 14
green day:
we're communist now
I'm gona jerk off to album 14's art cover
I hope it is the case. Also, I feel it relatable to my country so I'd be glad if the new album has political commentary on it.
Yeah, the riff from the teaser is the exact same as the one on OEB.
They’re in different keys
And one is major and the other minor
Kinda similar but also pretty different. It would be a major rework if they’re the same song
No chance they’re the same song
Seems pretty unlikely they're the same song yeah, we know they've repurposed melodies and lines from older scrapped stuff before though. but also pretty different in that sense
Not anywhere close to exactly the same, they’re reminiscent of eachother but I wouldn’t go that far, the only similarity is a hammer on two frets above the last note
They’re very different
Also I don’t think OEB is really the type of song that would warrant the type of buildup we hear
Buildup is similar to 21CB and See The Light
And given the fade off into a pad at the end it’s likely the end of the opening song
I severely doubt it’s OEB thoigh
Also imo the teaser has way too much bass
Bruh not the OEB debate again
OEB was also just a leak, who’s to say they didn’t scrap that version and rewrite it in a different key and call it something else like two eyes love child
Looks like Billie’s halloween fit from a few years ago
I love the bass lmao
The bass is nice but I just think it’s a bit too loud is what I mean
It’s far louder than their other albums and I guess it just depends on whether the guitar is quiet or if the bass is loud
I hope it’s just the guitar being quiet for the riff
Yeah I like loud bass idm
^^^
One week from Tuesday guys!!! The new era is finally upon us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope I'll be still alive then.
Imma stay inside my room playing games , you never know what'll happen 😭
The website just updated
green day in their thriller arc rn
I dont think the world is ready to see zombie billie
new logo too
WAYYY better than the FOAMF era logo too. i smell a redemption arc incoming
computer version
I desperately need dark and gritty green day music in my life
New logo kinda reminds me of a mix between the Nimrod and 21CB logos
I dig that font
It’s literally just that
Nothing else
The bass was Audible since 1990 up until 97
I would say until 2000s, it was still really prominent on Warning
Yeah but then it started to get quiet after American idiot
Yeah American Idiot was the last time you could really hear it
If you wanna hear the bass fully, 39/smooth, kerplunk, dookie, and insomniac almost always have the bass. That also includes the sweet children EP
YOOOOO
i love all 3 of those songs
Hm
Idk how I feel about this new tease
The first teaser sounded phenomenal but this one
Not sure
But then again it just sounds like the second half of the chorus
Or maybe just the outro
Kind of
BRUH I LOVE IT
I’m not sure I like the sound personally
I’m getting a bit of RevRad
Billie sounds amazing
I would say this but it doesn’t sound as sonically heavy
yeah idk something about the key its in is throwing me off, I do like the vocals more
no more falsetto🥹
It just still sounds kinda toned down
That kinda sucks tho I love Billie's falsetto
His falsettos are pretty good but they were badly used in foam
Sprinkling them in is nice
Yup
Oh love has that amazing falsetto moment which just sounds beautiful
Something just sounds weird to me
Maybe it is that Tre kinda sound
But I’m not sure
I think we have to hear the whole song
Yeah this is definitely the outro so it’s gonna sound a bit weak
I’m certain the snippets dont do it justice
I think it’s the presence of the guitar that sounds off
The guitar is a bit buried
Which may just be to show that this is a more bass driven song
Eh yknow what no, it’s pretty sick
This may be just for how they’re releasing the snippets
To me it sounds like part of the chorus
Well yeah but often they’ve repeated the chorus as the outro to a song
True
Because I thought the one where Billie was waking up in bed sounded a bit different even though they were the same riffs
It does sound very different
That’s likely the intro
Like the second time they released the intro it sounded better?
I don’t see how the two teasers are the same song though
Me neither
Oh, they’re definitely the same song
Well yeah they definitely are
I'm trying to connect them in my head but idk lol
But I just don’t see it
Yeah
What happened
Try again this happens sometimes
Idk if it’s just my wifi
Someone got fired
Lmao
Billie’s vocals sound incredible
Fr dude he just keeps getting better each album I swear
I heard the intro vs this teaser and they’re definitely the same song
The buildup has the same exact sound that main guitar was just very confusing
Because of how different of a tone it has
Reminds me of RevRad which is a good thing
We getting peak
You know it’ll be good when you think you’ve heard the song before on one of their past albums but you actually havent at all
True
I just hope the guitar isn’t as buried in the entire album as it is in this teaser
I hope it’s just a bass centered song (or chorus at the very least)
I liked how the guitar was mixed in RevRad and I hope they go for something like that
It sounds alr to me, I’m sure we’re gonna get some cool guitar stuff
Yeah It just sounded a bit off
I said it before the teaser when I said it sounded like more bass than their normal sound
And clarified maybe the guitar is just quiet
rob cavallo is back so i trust this album should sound a lot better production wise
i wouldn't say the guitars sound buried at all
Man I'm so ready
theory used to be that they would release a single before WWWY but thats only in a few days so im not sure
it'll be next tuesday
they might play something new live at the secret show/wwwy though
Kinda odd that it's on a Tuesday and not the usual Friday
they don't ever release album singles on fridays
Yeah but that's when music is usually released
It’s already confirmed it’s after
just saying it's not something they've ever done lol so not exactly unexpected
for studio albums
at least not for years and years
Ohhh yeah that makes sense
usually they debut the lead single on some rando radio station lmao
and then streaming gets it pretty much after that
interesting
I remember when this happened with Love Is For Losers lol
Weird they’re doing it because it’s already been proven releasing on a Friday is what leads to better performance
They’re doing something that objectively hurts the potential performance for the single
it really doesn't make a huge difference
for small artists sure
for a huge band like green day the music will speak for itself a couple extra days of chart numbers won't make a diff
But I mean before streaming albums were commonly released on tuesdays
im pretty sure every green day album from dookie to revolution radio topped the bill board chart for at least a week. dont know about father of all
and i might be making that up but it sounds right
what im saying is I think it should do well anyway
yeah they pretty much always jump to #1 for at the very least the release week
in the uk at least
not sure about billboard
album chart that is
would be nice to see them on the top singles charts again but i can't see that happening
Pretty sure Father Of All did chart for like a week
glad to hear
for the band not the album
Is Father of All still the lowest selling GD album tho?
Last year I'm pretty sure it didn't even crack a million
Idk but tre is also in contention for worst performance
it probably doesnt help that streaming is the go to way to listen to music now
I'm pretty sure it's between FOAM, Tre, and 39/Smooth
Tre might be worst
39/smooth got rereleases after, foam was questionable but people bought it
Tre got low sales because uno and dos both left people dissatisfied
And people didn’t wanna buy a third album for more of the same
So I think tre has the most arguments for worst performing
Also it didn't get that much promotion from what I understand
Dos and Tre got pretty buried bc of all the stuff going on with Billie at the time
That's what I've heard at least
Greendayfm ranks foam as the lowest
Yeah that's unsurprising
Yeah given they couldn’t tour for promotion and the fact it overall sounded kinda bad
I think that the bad sales is probably another reason the band just ignores FOAM
Sucks tho cuz I think Sugar Youth and Graffitia would be awesome live
Maybe idk I haven’t finished the album
But I think title track and fire ready aim would be great live
theyve played those live a few times after the albums release
they were alright
i dont like that billie decided not to play guitar for them tho
he just walks around with a mic
Fire Ready Aim got played live once and it didn't sound super great
Isn’t it because the vocals are more complex than normal so he struggles to play and sing
It sounded like Billie was straining his voice
He probably was
Live at NHL All-Star Game, Enterprise Center, St. Louis, Missouri, USA - 2020/01/25.
Edited by Chipo.
The album release party especially
That one was rough
He doesn’t normally play st Jimmy either
yeah this one is hard to watch
At least he's got a cool jacket...
especially because apparently the people at this performance were promised a concert but they only played one song and then ran inside the stadium
pretty sure i heard that somewhere
Also I can’t remember if he plays king for a day
they do king for a day all the time
They played Fire Ready Aim twice and Basket Case iirc
No I mean Billie doesn’t play guitar on it
somethin like that
oh yeah thats true
Yeah and I think he stopped playing on jaded after he got off speed
I do gotta say tho even with that horrible fire ready aim performance, this 2022 lollapalooza concert was absolutely fuckin awesome https://youtu.be/sO_CM7EVOmE
Green Day - Lollapalooza 2022 - Chicago, USA - July, 31
Setlist:
- American Idiot
- Holiday
- Know Your Enemy
- Boulevard of Broken Dreams
- Longview
- Welcome to Paradise
- Hitchin' a Ride
- Rock and Roll All Nite (KISS cover)
- Brain Stew
- St. Jimmy
- When I Come Around
- Waiting
- 21 Guns
- Minority
- Knowledge ...
he nailed it here
yea that was pretty good
still dont like how billie is dressed like a GTA character in that one tho
FR LMAO
I remember I was really concerned about Billie's voice when watching the album release party in 2020, but since then he's been sounding pretty good
yea
i hope hes still off drugs
i hate to say this but I hope him being sober wasnt why foam was so bad
drugs = good song writing
I doubt that
He did RevRad when he was sober too
And that one was good
Same
besties
I still don't know how FOAM happened lol
I mean it had some okay ideas I guess
But the production on that killed it
nah idk. if 1990s Billie heard foam and was told he wrote it he'd probably kill himself
I believe that FOAM could've worked as a Foxboro album
With different production of course
fo sho
Stuff like Meet Me on the Roof reminds me a lot of Mother Mary, for instance
Also, I hope they never play Oh Yeah live ever again
That song is okay but man live it just sucks
Billie sounds so out of it in every performance of it LMAO
oh yeah and nightlife are probably the worst green day songs imo
I’m still apart of the belief that foam was purposefully ass
I wouldn't put it past them lol
revolution radio to FOAM was literally the biggest drop of quality ive ever seen in music
ridiculous
I agree lol
Like the difference between RevRad and FOAM is so striking
They must've known what they were doing
I like foam but it obv isn’t their best work and they know that
Billie said they cut a lot of songs from foam so I wouldn’t be surprised if they saved their better songs from that production
From what I've heard some songs that were left off of FOAM got reworked for Money Money 2020 part 2
And that album was awesome
funny thing is that they scrapped cigarettes and valentines because they didnt like it but ended up still releasing FOAM
and you know cigs and vals was probably way better than foam
Prob
Definitely
Yeah that’s also why I believe foam was purposefully bad
I forget the documentary but someone close to them said they loved cigs and vals and didn’t get why it wasn’t released
I feel like for the AI 25th anniversary we’re gonna get the original cigarettes and valentines
I’ve been hoping this
It would
Bc those in a way are kind of AI’s “demos”
Yeah kind of
nobody knows for sure but all evidence suggests that c&v was never actually a complete album
But also the fact they’ve released outtakes from previous albums makes me excited
so idk what they'd release
just any extra songs we haven't heard from those pre AI sessions ig
apparently lots of c&v songs are already released, such as youngblood
youngblood was written during 21cb tour
ah ok
but you're right we've heard quite a few already
Is it true that Too Much Too Soon was from c&v?
I've heard that claim before but idk how true it is
yeah it probably is
A lot of those b sides probably were
Hearts collide and lights out definitely were
Just from the way it sounds
lights out is a very good song
Oh yeah I can totally hear it on hearts collide
the thing is that it wasn't really an album as such, they just wrote some songs that they didn't like that much meanwhile they'd done i think one or two AI tracks and realised that was the direction they were gonna go in
but yeah those are some of the songs
on god
i'm still not convinced the song cigarettes and valentines was even from then
the lyrics sound like billie's writing post AI to me
Wasteaway, sleepyhead, and cluster bomb were all confirmed to be warning outtakes and were mentioned as being on cigarettes and valentines so there’s that
yeah so again it's just like those were the songs they were working on at the time
but not really like a fully realised thing
was cluster bomb changed to letterbomb or are they two different songs?
letterbomb was probably one of them that made them realise AI was what they should've been doing
as far as we know clusterbomb = letterbomb
but not sure if there's any solid proof of that
Wouldn’t be surprised if Letterbomb was a reworked version of cluster bomb
same
Just considering how different it sounds from the rest of AI
They really should give us more info about Cigarettes and Valentines at some point bro like we've been speculating for so long
there's a lot of info about what was going on at that time with the band, you just gotta look for it
anyway let's keep this vaguely on topic
I mean didn’t they literally say they had the masters of the album?
there were never any masters
So where is the evidence you keep saying exists?
in that the album never really existed and certainly was never stolen
the thing about it being stolen was just their excuse as to why the thing they'd been teasing fans about wasn't happening
Yeah it definitely wasn’t considering the recording studio said so
meanwhile they were jumping into AI
alright i knew they made up the stealing of the tapes but I assumed there were still tapes
maybe not
I’ve seen no evidence that the tapes themselves never existed
Because that’s a large claim
true
read nobody likes you
Literally how does this pertain to the conversation
I don’t see any connection
because the book literally explains a bunch of stuff that happened during that era pre AI
without spelling it out directly it's a lot of context
there's also an interview with mike somewhere where he explains it too
from some radio thing or something at the time
I just don’t see any reason why the claim “cigarettes and valentines wasn’t a real album” has credence to it
as said there's an interview with mike that literally says as much but i heard it years ago so wouldn't know where to find it - yes they recorded songs back then and yes they were saying they were working on something called c&v but they never had a completed full album that they then scrapped
That's true, I remember when they mentioned that song when talking about FOAM but it ended up being replaced with Take the Money and Crawl I'm pretty sure
at least that's the way it looks based on all the info we have
yeah exactly
they were just writing a fuckton of stuff at the time and didn't know where to go with it
sounds promising like 21cb mixed with revrad
the american dream is killing me ‼️‼️‼️‼️
single name or album name place your bets
me too
dog i would actually destroy all of my cds if album 14 is the american dream is killing me
sweet (american) dreams is better fight me
well we know the lyric in the song is the american dream is killing me, so my bet is on the single being called that. and since they also revealed sweet (american) dreams title on the initial announcement, my bet is on single = the american dream is killing me, album = sweet (american) dreams
I wish it didn’t have the parentheses
Honestly I thought the album could be called Wake Up Call
Bc of the thing “register for a wake up call”
Honestly would make sense as a political title
Me too I’m so excited
Literally counting down the days until the 24th
I also think there is a 1% chance the album will be called "1972 is dead", as Billie would then have made an epic troll on all of us by revealing it months early
That actually would make me cry 💀💀
That song sounds so much like East Jesus Nowhere!
was thinking about that the other day actually, would be a pretty good title.
21CB is my favorite album, so that’s wonderful.
“All the dogs who never learnt to read” has a similar melodic pattern.
Banger title, genuinely.
I think that had more to do with the "Wake Me Up When September Ends" joke
I KNOW! It sounds like Broken World from the interrupters (at least that opening riff does) god I finally figured out where it was sounding from
very similar to Sweet (American) Dreams
I don't like how Billie recites the same line twice in the chorus...
But I'll take it, it sounds great.
Oh my god no that’s such a good name
It sounds more like the endings to some of their songs where they end it with a repetition of the chorus a lot
Yeah I think it could make a lot of sense
Maybe
I listened to the live version of 1981 again in the lead up to TADIKM and man it was better than I remember it being lol
That makes so much sense
i think that song will be like know your enemy tbh
the leaks as a whole give off a 21cb vibe
HERE WE GOOOOOO
https://fxtwitter.com/hasitleaked/status/1714232236168425976?t=EzY5JQ3AjKsB0Smyb9TxTA&s=19
WW
W
I hope it doesn’t leak
Haven’t every single one of their recent albums been leaked?
This takes me back to the time where i searched the whole internet For the full Revard album before it was released. I was able to get it at the end of the day.
It was a month before the album was released.
My god i was such a nerd but now I m just a piece of crap
I did that with OEB LMAO
I'm very impatient lol
I did that with FOAM too I think but that wasn't worth it really lol
In fact I think my Google Drive still has the files from the FOAM leaks I found but I'm not sure
I did the same with Foam too but I could only get the bad quality one. Someone recorded it and was uploaded. The whole experience was mehh
Wasn’t warning leaked too?
Maybe
I wonder why the Green Day logo wouldn’t be the new one
I bet they’re gonna play American dream is killing me and a new single
I remember hearing the entire 21st Century Breakdown album on Rhapsody 1 week before release
Just looks like a generic font from Amazon
I’m gonna try not to
Yeah it does but I thought they would use the logo off the new album
Same lol
Man Billie's been having his hair blonde for almost the whole year
He would've dyed it back to black by now
Not complaining tho I love his blonde hair
I just hope they don't release the single then make us way a year for the album. hopefully just a couple months for the album
The background music.. do you think it's a song from the album?
Sexyyyyy
BILLIE IS SO HOT OMFG
Do y’all know how to watch this outside of Brasil? Is it even possible
They’re looking amazing
YESSSSS
Most likely
I think it sounds cool
I guess technically no since the single wouldn’t be out yet?
Man I missed Green Day album cycles
FOAM's album release cycle was awful but
This feels more legit lol
I still remember the whole "nothing says fuck you like a unicorn"
That was so bad LMAO
I'm assuming that it could've come out around now, but delayed it so they don't release it too close to the new Blink 182 album
January-February album release makes a lot of sense rn
I still think FOAM was a "fuck you" to Warner
Maybe. but kind of silly for them to then re-sign with Warner afterward. lol
I truthfully think Billie just likes to stretch himself creatively and do things that are uncomfortable. If you look back, this has normally worked in his favor. I think he probably knew FOAMF wouldn't be a very popular album but didn't really care because it's what he wanted to do. Now, I kind of suspect he didn't expect it to be THAT disliked and likely this new outing is a purposeful course correction to not alienate all the fans.
And the pandemic made it worse just a month after release!!!
It’s always single in Sept-Oct, release in Feb-March
A delusional part of me is really hoping it’ll come out late November
I can clear those delusions up for you, it will not be out until 2024
Nah real delulu is thinking it drops next Tuesday haha
I don’t think it’s a Brazil exclusive thing
Just the amazon music festival thing
I found a countdown
Ready for one of the biggest rock bands of all time? Green. Day. Is. Here. The GRAMMY-winning trio is up next on the Amazon Music Live stage. Tune in and get excited for hits from their iconic punk-rock-pop masterpieces, Dookie, American Idiot and so much more. Catch it all with host 2 Chainz on Prime Video— when the game ends, live music begins.
If anyone wants it
noice
Dont think i can watch that in germany 🥲
I can bring those delusions back. Billie Joe personally told me the album is coming out in November
so is orange the color of this album
instant reply got dam
i swear mike makes that same face in every photo
he looks like he just got caught eating out of a bag of chips that he didnt buy at a store
Thanks 😭😭
Apparently the whole song is leaked and it's out there somewhere.
Should I use my Nerd power to track it down ?
Reminder that it’s alright to talk about leaked songs here but not to talk about where to find it or to ask people to share it
Thanks
https://youtube.com/shorts/lgcnKvg6oIg?si=8PkFN5o1hnV-i0q1 the advertisement for the new album is so much better than for foamf
It’s zombie themed
Actually the later parts of the thread seem to hint that it may just be a troll
Idk, to me it’s a bit inconsistent
We have the zombies, then the dreams/sleeping, then the gambling/vegas chips, then that
It’s a bit… Scattered 
Maybe it’ll change when they actually release the song but if Green Day wasn’t famous I dont think they would’ve gotten away with it
All we have for certain is the zombies. The poker chips is just a reference to them playing in Vegas and the waking up is just a joke for the announcement.
We have the zombies for the single, at least— we dont know if that’s the theme of the album
Yeah that’s what I meant. The other two most likely related themes for the single/album
The launch should match the tease more though, from a strategic standpoint😅 i don’t mind it but I think it could be better overall
I checked rn and yeah for the looks of it it was most likely a troll
If the album is about St.Jimmy becoming an undead.. I'm all for it..
Or maybe the zombie has nothing to do with the album and it was just used as a reference for the single
It peaked at #1 on the billboard rock albums chart
Idk if anyone wants it, but I tried to combine the two American Dream snippets we have so far lol
AGREED ❤️
Ah okay thanks
THAT SOUNDS GOOD
Sounds like we’re in a nice mix of AI and RevRad with a little hint of 21CB
Nah I don’t think the 90s sound would work now
The bit of the verse we heard sounds kinda like nimrod
At least in the way it has a sluggish pace to the beat
At least that’s what it reminds me of personally
Unsure but all the promotion has been using the 6 words
So I would presume it at least wouldn’t be as consistent if it wasn’t the outright title
But it does sound amazing
Does Billie's voice sound higher pitched to anyone else?
Yeah it definitely does
Even compared to RevRad and 21stCB it sounds slightly higher
I noticed that with OEB too
I wonder if age has anything to do with it
It sounds great don't get me wrong
Maybe
Idk what caused but maybe he’s just inflecting his voice in a slightly different way
I just notice and nerd out over stuff like that LOL
It’s only at the beginning of the line though
So I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s just a little thing in there
That's cool if it is
I just hope the sound mixing is better because previous albums have had a really muddled sound instruments.
It goes to show that Billie is still pushing his vocal abilities which is admirable imo
The teasers sound really well mixed
And I didn’t think RevRad was too muffled
With CLA on it I know it'll be great
Yeah that was the first thing I noticed. I hope the rest of the album sounds that crisp.
Still not a big fan of the zombie theme and hope it’s not an entire album thing
I doubt it would change
Would make zero sense for that to be the case
What if half the album is produced by Butch Walker