#Saviors Discussion

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tight pewter
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the latest teaser really reminds me of the 21st century breakdown b-side tracks

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the 21st cb b sides are really good imo and have an old green day vibe mixed with newer green day

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i hope for 1972 its similar to that with some new sounds

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the drums sound like how they did on dookie and kerplunk imo

meager finch
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You must keep in mind that those tapes haven't been mastered yet. That's why they sound so raw

teal pollen
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Just had a thought, it'd be hilarious if 1972 turned out to be a compilation like International Superhits

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With a new song like JAR on the former (well, "New" in that case)

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Almost entirely not the case

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Actually, even with this almost definitely being a new studio album, I wouldn't mind another best of with stuff from after IntSup

sleek fern
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đŸ€”

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Yeah!

pallid gulch
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Could this be a hint they may debut a song live?

plush warren
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Probably not but who knows lol

cinder mantle
teal pollen
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O hecc I forgot about God's Favourite Band!!

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Back In The USA slaps

warped sluice
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I'd rather have a 2nd B side album

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With
The Saints Are Coming
Working Class Hero
The Simpsons theme
Xmas Time of the Year

And all the other 2021 singles

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Maybe even rarites

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Who knows since this 1972 thing is a celebration of green day

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Shenanagain!

teal pollen
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heheheheh love the name

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Would love more b-sides in a collection so it's easier to find on streaming services

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also so we can get the simpsons theme over here

sleek fern
worn gull
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Ffs when’s 1972 dropping?

plush warren
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People are saying that Billie said next year

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But that makes no sense bc why is it called 1972

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They’re all 50 this year

meager finch
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December 6th release date

quiet berry
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Maybe when they’re all 50 it comes out

pallid gulch
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This is one giant hour long song.

sleek fern
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*JOS Part 2

pallid gulch
meager finch
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Hm

pallid gulch
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Looks like 10 tracks

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Going for all killer, no filler perhaps

pallid gulch
meager finch
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The video you sent lol

pallid gulch
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Thought so lol, I just couldn't see it

meager finch
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They're probably not tracks tho

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Lyrics?

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Idk

pallid gulch
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Hm, maybe, that would make sense too, I just thought tracklist cause the text looks so thick

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Looking closer, there looks to be words scribbled out

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I can't really but there's ten rows it appears

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It's probably not a tracklist though

candid compass
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will they be releasing a single or two?

pallid gulch
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Probably a few

candid compass
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kewl

pallid gulch
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New video

worn gull
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I ran a couple of teasers through genius last night but still nothing 😔

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I'm getting rly impatient for this album icl

pallid gulch
pallid gulch
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So far, sounds good. They just gotta stick the landing and deliver something bold

worn gull
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I want the reflective side we saw with Rev Rad but I hope that wasn't a one off

pallid gulch
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In terms of the lyrical content, Billie once said they were going to be writing some satirical songs

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And with them doing the "big slow song" and the acoustic one, I think those will have some reflective and/or resonant lyrical themes

plush warren
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Yeah this album’s gonna bang basically

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I’m really excited

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The lengthy recording gives me a lot of hope

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I feel like they quickly recorded the last album and threw it at us

pallid gulch
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I wholeheartedly believe that GD's intent with Father Of All was to divert our expectations

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After Revolution Radio, they could have done the exact same thing again and people would've been happy. Instead they made something completely unorthodox for them

plush warren
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Yeah I respect that so much but I think it’s pretty obvious that they didn’t put as much effort as usual into that album

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Not saying it’s bad at all bc I like the album but I feel like they definitely didn’t try their hardest

warped sluice
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Hoping the critics eat their words when this album comes out

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Sorta like when AI dropped after Warning

pallid gulch
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I really hope, Green Day hasn't released an all time classic in ages now

plush warren
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they’re too old now to release an album that would blow up again like AI and Dookie, thats unfortunately just how it works

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But I have a good feeling that it will be a huge album for the rock community and fans too

plush warren
pallid gulch
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The critics can think whatever they want as long as the band and fans get something out of it.

plush warren
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I mean the songs sound incredible so far

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I assume the writing will be good too

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Sounds like they’re going all out on this

pallid gulch
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It's all four numbers in Spanish

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Oh wow, thank you lol

devout meteor
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nah it gotta be Âż and ?

reef oasis
plush warren
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LETS GOOOOOOO

pallid gulch
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YESSSSS

quiet berry
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Source: trust me bro

blazing vessel
# quiet berry Source: trust me bro

Well, the picture is real. CLA is a mixing engineer, so they’re probably done recording and are just mixing it at this point. That could take a long time though, and the album has to be mastered. Plus all of the album art has to be made as well. Considering the fact that we don’t have a single from the album yet tells me that we’re still not getting it anytime soon.

plush warren
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Yeah the picture was on cla’s insta

plush warren
meager finch
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Album's not coming out this year, that's for sure

quiet berry
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Billie said 2023

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Ik I was joking

pallid gulch
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First single should be out relatively soon

meager finch
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I hope so

ionic gulch
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I see literally no evidence that the album will even be called 1972

pallid gulch
pallid gulch
ionic gulch
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My point isn’t that it’s gonna be something else it’s that it’s not necessarily gonna be that

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It’s the year they were born in, it’s also not something they’ve historically done to hashtag or even reveal the title that early

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FOA teasers weren’t tagged with #fatherofallmotherfuckers or #foam

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Everyone thought it would be called songs for assholes

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So no, we don’t have a clue what the title will actually be and using it in hashtags doesn’t mean shit

pallid gulch
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I didn't say we did, we just don't have a solid answer for right now

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It's the best we can do

blazing vessel
pallid gulch
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Off the topic of the title, I think they're making a documentary

meager finch
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Why's that

pallid gulch
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Is that clip from anything? I don't watch many music docs, so it might be

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I'm thinking because of how extensively they've been filming their creative process on the album and that clip on TikTok

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Teaser 10, with the vocals and Rob at the board looks like it could fit a documentary

meager finch
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That's true

pallid gulch
meager finch
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I don't think those hashtags mean anything. Their profile manager is basically just spamming random shit

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#bts lol

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But a new documentary would be cool 👍

warped sluice
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Wouldn't mind a CD/DVD thing

plush warren
ionic gulch
plush warren
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That doesn’t really matter

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Also in one tik tok you can hear tre say “this new album’s gonna be so good. 1972 y’all”

pallid gulch
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Why does it matter what we call it when we don't know the title?

sleek fern
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So theres potential that there might be a 1972 documentary?

meager finch
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Yes

pallid gulch
ionic gulch
plush warren
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But it’s like a 90% probability lmao

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At least 90

meager finch
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Yeah lol

pallid gulch
ionic gulch
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It’s not anything, it can be at least an abbreviation of the title but it’s not the confirmed title

pallid gulch
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But nobody said it was confirmed

ionic gulch
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Nothing about it is even confirmed except it existing

pallid gulch
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We are just calling it that for now

ionic gulch
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Then why are you arguing with me?

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I said it’s not a confirmed name and I have people arguing with me over that

pallid gulch
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Because you're making an issue out of it

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It doesn't matter

reef oasis
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when are we getting 72 anyways

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also I hope it's not like the trilogy or rev rad or 21stcb

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where some lyrics are (wtf is this)

pallid gulch
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Wishing for a single in the coming months

fast junco
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we gotta wait for the universe to reset and then wait for it to be the year 1972 and then it will come out

reef oasis
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Ye I just hope the lyrics are on point this time around

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Trilogy was a shitshow

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Then suddenly Stray Heart

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Like look at Stray Heart and idk Carpe Diem it’s super inconsistent

pallid gulch
plush warren
pallid gulch
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The satirical bit came from an interview

plush warren
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Oh was that from that clip with cavallo in it?

plush warren
pallid gulch
reef oasis
plush warren
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Oh ok lol

worn gull
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green day 1972 is gonna be a good album hopefully

pallid gulch
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I just hope there's an actual real effort put into this, Rob Cavallo always brought out the best in this group and on their big "we promise we don't suck now guys, the last one was a fluke" back to roots apology album, they can't afford to miss and make something as mediocre as they have for over a decade now.

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Everything here sounds like Green Day going to their roots and writing something they may have written for something such as 39 Smooth with the creative lense they have now.

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That's not to say it will be anything like Smooth, it's only to say this is most likely the band going back to square one in a way that feels true to their sound now.

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If they were who they are now, back then, what would they write together?

plush warren
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This album kinda seems like a classic rock x punk album with modern quality so far

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It’s pretty different for them which is so exciting

plush warren
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It’s one of my favorites from them

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The songs are quality I’ve never understood why so many fans don’t like it

pallid gulch
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A lot of the songs (not counting Revolution Radio because that's them doing what they're best at) have been really meh and felt half assed. That feels kind of rude to say about a band as productive as Green Day but yeah, a lot of it feels somewhat uninspired.

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I think they're at an interesting point in their career because they're on a brand new chapter as free agents of their music. As a band who came from a Punk ethos, I'm sure having this sort of freedom is rejuvenating to them and they'll wanna do something big for this next venture.

plush warren
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Yeah it seems like that’s what they’re doing

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They’re going all out

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For this album

sleek fern
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So is Nuclear Family

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Ik my favorite album may be the trilogy but c'mon

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There are some mid tracks

pallid gulch
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Most of the good songs on the trilogy sound exactly the same

worn gull
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Like?

pallid gulch
# worn gull Like?

Well, I shouldn't say most, but for example Ashley, SD&V and Nuclear Family. It's all very thin sounding and the production leaves a lot to be desired.

meager finch
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I'd love to hear another experimental album

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And not another Rev Rad

pallid gulch
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That's not to say they don't have any artistic integrity or that they don't ever experiment, they're just confined by audience expectations, after all, it's a job, you're making a product to sell to an audience, sometimes you have to sacrifice certain aspects of that.

reef oasis
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not the best not the worse

reef oasis
sleek fern
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Alr fair enough

reef oasis
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Let Yourself Go is alright if you're angry

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Stray Heart though

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great song

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GD seriously if you're doing love more like this

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why does Billie sound so much more nasal in earlier albums though

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also the music video is perfect

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it looks like a fucking fever dream but it also suits the entire album so well

void crater
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First one is that they're a socal punk band, and socal punk has a specific sound at the time

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Also, since I'm assuming he wasn't a very advanced singer, he couldn't change his voice all that well

meager finch
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its a technique for preserving singing voice

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i mean the voice he is using right now

pallid gulch
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Theory:

Green Day is making an album, documentary and soundtrack

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Dreaming, I Get Around, Rock N Roll All Night will be on the soundtrack, the IGA clip, the studio clips and the new interviews with no source are from this upcoming movie

meager finch
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"new" interviews are unused clips from Turn it Around documentary

pallid gulch
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Oh, rip there goes my theory then

plush warren
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I feel like they could make a documentary though along with this album

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A lot of footage of them making the album seems like it could be from a documentary

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So maybe it’ll be the album and then a documentary of them making the album too

pallid gulch
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And a soundtrack EP to go with that, probably songs that meant something to them in their youth. The songs that changed their lives

plush warren
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Yeah maybe

autumn pond
slow crest
# pallid gulch I just hope there's an actual real effort put into this, Rob Cavallo always brou...

I honestly think this is gonna be the one that saves the band. Since stuff like the trilogy and father of all everyone keeps saying the band fell off and they’re “boomers” now.

But this one really gives me hope. The teasers they’ve shown, and the fact that they’re working with people like Rob Cavallo and Chris Lord Alge again really gets me excited. It feels like they’re taking all the sounds they’ve experimented with over the last 25 years and really going all out with them.

It seems like they’re really proud of themselves with this, and they’re gonna make a great album. This shits gonna be amazing, I’m excited

pallid gulch
slow crest
pallid gulch
tall bear
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Imma listen to the new single the second it releases

plush warren
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I have been preparing myself to scream in school if I need to when they announce it

pallid gulch
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At the show yesterday, it was stated by security that they were testing new material.

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Whether or not this means album material is yet to be seen, they did play Disappearing Boy yesterday, so I'm imagining they're slowly gonna start changing the setlist for the rollout.

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The change in backdrop yesterday, the 1972 vest, the introduction of other songs (inc Whatsername and Paper Lanterns, yet to be played) in the setlist means they probably are hyping us up for an October drop.

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Calling October 17th, their first show as Sweet Children at Rod's.

plush warren
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Especially with how long theyve been teasing this for

meager finch
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i think we are not getting anything until 2023

pseudo copper
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Would be kinda unfitting to have it come out at 51
Then again the new Revolver edition rom the Beatles is due 6 years

pallid gulch
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A single sounds ripe for the picking and being out by October 17th gives them time to still debut it live for one show.

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Not to mention that October 17th is a Monday and Green Day has a history of releasing first singles typically on Mondays

These include Geek Stink Breath, American Idiot and Oh, Love

autumn pond
autumn pond
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they have been working on this album since last year so it may be released this year on tres bday

plush warren
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Yeah I’m thinking a December release or at the very least, an official announcement in December

chilly stratus
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most likely won't happen but imagine if they record or re-record studio versions of when you're near, stay, jennifer, you can't fool me and forever someday for 1972

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i really love this idea, what do u think?

meager finch
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I like the idea

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But the chances of that happening are equal to zero

chilly stratus
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yeah

slow crest
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Uh
the album cover was leaked

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Yikes

pallid gulch
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That would kinda be hilarious if they doubled down on the crappy album art and repeated themselves.

pallid gulch
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Something like this

plush warren
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Nah I hope they don’t do that lmao

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Even though they don’t matter to the quality of the album, a good cover is still nice to have

pallid gulch
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I don't either, it'd be funny

reef oasis
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Tbh literally just the number 1972 would do it

pallid gulch
plush warren
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I’m like pretty sure it’ll be called 1972

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Maybe it’ll be some other title but it’s definitely relating to 1972 some how

candid imp
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I created the cover

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Yeah I know that this is not the Usual Green Day style

worn gull
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any updates :/

meager finch
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Nothing until 2023

plush warren
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I hope they at least announce it this year

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It’s been like 10 months since the first teaser

pallid gulch
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October 17th single gang, where are you at?

plush warren
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I really hope lmao

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That would be amazing

slow crest
plush warren
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They pinned one of their early teasers to their tik tok

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Maybe that’s the song they’re releasing?

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It wasn’t pinned until now

pallid gulch
plush warren
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Let’s hope đŸ„ł

worn gull
plush warren
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No it’s the one where Mike is singing the guitar part of the song and then Billie’s like: “yeah Green Day”

candid imp
pallid gulch
candid imp
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Unfortunate that I was not born on the 17th

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pallid gulch
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Oh wow, I didn't know the Chili Peppers were dropping. That's more of a reason to believe

plush warren
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I thought RHCP were dropping tomorrow

subtle ravine
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Do you guys think that with the Nimrod anniversary stuff rolling out, we won't be seeing 1972 stuff for a couple of months?

candid imp
slow crest
plush warren
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Yeah i at least hope a single is released from the album

pallid gulch
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Nimrod being my favorite album of theirs makes the wait for #1972 more tolerable. Gonna throw a few predictions out the window for it and see how many stick.

warped sluice
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It's not gonna come out this year at this point

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They made Nimrod 25 for the appitiser

pallid gulch
plush warren
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I really hope but I don’t know why they would other than that 1st show thing

pallid gulch
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I'm not saying it's concrete, these are all anecdotal until proven otherwise.

plush warren
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That’s some good evidence though

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Hopefully it’s true

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Im so excited I literally cannot wait anymore lmao

slow crest
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Well today is the day

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Let’s see if there’s a new song or not

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Maybe not

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But there’s a possibility there will be

dire basin
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Not until 2023 sorry

slow crest
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Damn

warped sluice
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We got You Irratate Me instead

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Better

plush warren
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Yeah I doubt anything’s coming today lol

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Dammit

pallid gulch
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Figured something wasn't coming, it was the only date that made sense.

slow crest
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Ok yea we’re not getting a new song today lol

pallid gulch
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Definitely not, oh well lol

plush warren
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They’re really testing us 😭

quiet berry
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I'd rather wait and it be good than not wait and it be shit

slow crest
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Lady cobra has been confirmed to be writing and rapping for new music for 1972

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Two new songs

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PLUS the hand claps will be on those two songs 👏👏👏

plush warren
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That’s sick let’s go

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Did she make a post

pallid gulch
dire basin
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Fuck These People will be in 1972

plush warren
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What’s beer goggles

pallid gulch
plucky pumice
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i think the album is coming when tre is 50 so everyone is 50

plush warren
plush warren
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Omg that makes sense 💀

pallid gulch
plush warren
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Uh idk lmao

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Possibly who knows

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Maybe it’s a combination of different things

pallid gulch
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Because I was thinking this album could be a callback to Proto Punk

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Billie Joe's costume is a perfect amalgamation of this, being a cross between a tight leather wearing, Elvis haired Rock Star and a dirty, dark, spike wristband wearing Punker lol

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This means they'd borrow largely from groups like The New York Dolls, Alice Cooper, MC5, The Who and T. Rex

slow crest
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It’s a joke lol

devout meteor
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i figured but

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yoy never know

plush warren
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I didn’t figure 😭

plush warren
pseudo copper
pallid gulch
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This band needed a kick in the ass to be the absolute unit that they were before and Father Of All should be the shadow that looms upon them, the entire time they record this. That 20 minute nothing is what they shouldn't be.

plush warren
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Yeah whatever genre it is it sounds incredible

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All of the teasers have sounded so good

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So I’m really not worried

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They definitely still got it lmao

slow crest
slow crest
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Wait daylight savings time ends November 6th this isn’t a 1972 thing

plush warren
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🗿

worn gull
pallid gulch
plush warren
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I hope we get the album relatively soon or at least an announcement but I’d rather it be good and wait then be ok and come sooner

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But they are really testing us 😭

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It’s been like 11 months almost

slow crest
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Hopefully we get something around the time Tre’s birthday rolls around

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Im happy with the stuff they’re doing for Nimrod’s anniversary. You Irritate Me was an awesome song
But like we’ve been teased with a new album and all these videos on tiktok promoting it. But so far, no official announcement, no new songs, barely anything

plush warren
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Yeah I’m really hoping for something around tre’s birthday too

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I feel like the album is done too bc there were rumors that it was being mastered months ago

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They’re probably waiting for a good time to drop something

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They’ve also been more quiet for a couple weeks maybe they’re preparing for it?

stark fiber
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Is there a confirmed date for the album to release?

devout meteor
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Nope

plush warren
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I’m hoping for early 2023

pallid gulch
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Tre's birthday is the next date I'm eyeing or right after Nimrod25.

hallow creek
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They’ve already said it will be 2023 so it won’t be Tre’s birthday and there will likely be 2-3 singles released prior to the album so it won’t be anytime before the spring in all likelihood

pallid gulch
plush warren
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And maybe a single if they please

pallid gulch
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Yeah, we know we won't hear the complete album until 2023 but an announcement of some kind would be appreciated

hallow creek
# plush warren And maybe a single if they please

I just don’t see it happening then, it’s probably the worst time of year to drop a new single. If they were given a good slot on a New Years Eve show I could see them performing it live and releasing after but that’s probably not gonna happen.

slow crest
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The 👏 hype 👏 is 👏 real 👏

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Idk maybe they’ll put out a single sometime in December lol

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That’s what I’m hoping, like right around the time Tre turns 50

plush warren
reef oasis
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bruh

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why rapping

reef oasis
# slow crest Lady cobra has been confirmed to be writing and rapping for new music for 1972

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Guitar: Billie Joe Armstrong
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Lead Vocals: Billie Joe Armstrong
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seriously though is there actually rapping

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what the fuck is this

rancid arch
reef oasis
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oh

dire basin
slow crest
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Yea I guess you’re right

plush warren
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I’m just hoping for an announcement

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Like a release date and stuff

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Maybe a track list if they’re feeling nice

worn gull
pallid gulch
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Another teaser would suffice

rancid nimbus
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a full song?

slow crest
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Not sure if anyone’s brought this up yet https://www.instagram.com/p/ClAiWK8r5IU/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

What an awesome Tuesday. This acting thing is pretty damn cool sometimes. super excited to have been in this room and to be able to work with all these amazing people, and to work with such an amazing band!
huge thanks to Lee Kirk for including me in this!

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I think they’re doing a music video

pallid gulch
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Music video time!
Music video time!

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Acting? Does that mean we could get a story here like in JOS or WMUWSE?

slow crest
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Maybe! That’d be pretty cool lol

pallid gulch
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It looks like they're playing younger versions of the members

plush warren
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THATS SO EXCITING

simple oxide
pallid gulch
pallid gulch
devout meteor
plush warren
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That’s amazing

pallid gulch
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Thank you guys

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One last thing

plush warren
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I’m excited for an actual new album cover unlike foamf 😭

pallid gulch
plush warren
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Anything is probably okay as long as they don’t rip off another one of their album covers lmao

worn gull
pallid gulch
worn gull
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No the 1972 words

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The numbers

pallid gulch
worn gull
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Damnit

pallid gulch
plush warren
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They really enjoy teasing us lmaoo 😭

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I swear they’re gonna do smth for tre’s birthday

pallid gulch
plush warren
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I wasn’t sure if they were referring to the album or Oakland coffee lmao

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But I’m really hoping they mean the album đŸ„ČđŸ„Č

hallow creek
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It’s clearly for the coffee club since the entire message is about the coffee club and is addressed to the Oakland Coffee Club and the message is from Oakland Coffee

plush warren
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Yeah that’s what I thought lol

devout meteor
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Most likely

pseudo copper
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huh

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i stand corrected

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think i got that mixed up with ||John Lennon's assassination||

slow crest
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Is there any more news on this?

plush warren
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Not anything new

indigo spruce
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Today marks one year of Green Day teasing the 1972 project

plush warren
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I thought they might tease something else today but idk

slow crest
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It’s been one whole year

slow crest
plush warren
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Damn

slow crest
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Made a bingo thing for when the album comes out

pallid gulch
plush warren
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These are my predictions

pallid gulch
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What if this seriously did become their best album?

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No way in hell at this point

slow crest
plush warren
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I definitely think it’ll be very good, maybe not best, but very good at least

arctic solar
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If it becomes the best album imma need a reality check

quiet berry
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this has the potential to be amazing but i doubt it'll be THAT good idk

pallid gulch
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That's at least what it seems to be

quiet berry
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i hope it's like their 90s stuff but like more matured

pallid gulch
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The fill at the beginning with those guitars flaring up sound unreal

plush warren
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They all sound really good

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I’m really excited

worn gull
pallid gulch
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Is Lady Cobra back?

worn gull
pallid gulch
worn gull
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Ok

reef oasis
worn gull
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Bruh

plush warren
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They own the company 💀

pallid gulch
reef oasis
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oh

prime hill
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I hope the next single/album goes back to the style of their older sound of music like kerplunk dookie and insomniac

prime hill
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I’d want that

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Actually?

worn gull
#
  • american idiot
prime hill
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That would be awesome

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I just don’t want something that’s once again like father of all

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They need to go back to their original sound

worn gull
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As Tre cool says This record gonna be sweet

prime hill
worn gull
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Father of All reminds me of kiss

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Distortion guitars and falsetto throughout the whole song yeah

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Basically kiss

prime hill
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Yeah but

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Kiss is good

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They do it correct

worn gull
#

Well yeah they have compelling lyrics and a cool backstory

prime hill
#

Ye

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Kiss is awesome

worn gull
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They have a planet named kissteria like wow

prime hill
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Lol ye

plush warren
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I feel like 1972 is a combination of all of their past records in a way

worn gull
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Even foam

plush warren
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I mean maybe who knows

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But I feel like that’s what it seems to be sounding like so far

worn gull
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I highly doubt foam

plush warren
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The main albums the clips remind me of are AI, 21CB, and Nimrod

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And then new elements added and stuff

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It’s sounds pretty refreshing and like they’re trying new things which is great

worn gull
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This my 1972 fan cover art

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I made two actually

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This the other one

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Which one is better?

plush warren
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The second one imo but the first ones funny lol

worn gull
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I tried to capture the nimrod type style with a bit of insomniac in there

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For the first one

prime hill
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What

slow crest
#

So apparently 1972 is not gonna be called 1972

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Also, Rob Cavallo deserves so much more credit, he’s an absolute legend.

plush warren
#

I mean that would make sense considering it’s coming in 2023 now so the year wouldn’t make as much sense

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But in their one clip on tik tok TrĂ© says “this album’s gonna be so good, 1972 y’all”

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So I have no idea if they’re calling it that or smth else based on that statement

pallid gulch
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1972's a decent codename, I'm glad they're dropping it for the title proper. Normally I wouldn't want a band to hold their own failures over their head, for this, I'll make an exception because no band like Green Day should be making work as identity deficient and sterile as FOAMF

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They need that weight on their back to keep their guard up, so they don't wind up making Ford commercial music. If this is the same quality of work with a more "Punk" coat of paint then they've completely lost the plot.

plush warren
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Nah 1972 is gonna be way better just based on the teasers alone

slow crest
#

I think it’s important to mention is this
In mid 2020, Billie Joe and Butch Walker (father of all producer) were talking about making a new Green Day album, which we never heard about again. So unless those songs end up on 1972 (which I doubt cause it’s been like 3 years and now they’re working with Rob Cavallo again), we got another lost Green Day album lol

pallid gulch
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Initially they were working with Butch Walker again, for whatever fucked up reason

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This leads me to believe that the hockey commercial incarnation of Green Day was sticking around until they realized it was a shit idea and this change in sound sucked

plush warren
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I think butch walker is a good producer but I didn’t like how he produced FOAMF

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Rob cavallo is making the new album sound incredible so far

pallid gulch
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Rob better not commit the same sins he did on the trilogy, that was so flat sounding

devout meteor
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each album has it's themes and they all have some solid songs

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in fact all of uno is really solid

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dos has its super highs and super lows, but its overall decent

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Tre is just a rollercoaster of emotions and whatever and its quite nice

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you have a wrong opinion for calling the trilogy flat, respectfully

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now if you called Dookie flat, I'd understand

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(that is a joke)

plush warren
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I do like the trilogy but the mixing is so weird

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And it sounds quieter than their other records

worn gull
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But pollyanna is actually good though...

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It felt different from father of all

plush warren
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Yeah but HCTS sucks lmao

worn gull
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I like the logo.

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Here comes the shock is only bad because someone asked for it idk

pallid gulch
#

Shock is super lame, Pollyanna's fine, cute song

worn gull
#

Shock is just green day tryna to bring back the old rebel style but failed.. they should talk about their hates from the past to capture the feel of what made them good.. but they're getting older so talking positively is good for them so Pollyanna's a bop, it's just not how they used to write songs thougj

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Chorus
Verse
Pre-Chorus
Chorus
Verse
Pre-Chorus
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus
Chorus

worn gull
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Green day is not repetitive like that usually

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It's mostly

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Verse
Chorus
Verse
Chorus
[Breakdown]
[Solo]
Chorus
Verse
Chorus (extended end)
End

plush warren
#

Yeah same

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Holy Toledo blows those two out of the water

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It’s their best song since RevRad

icy tree
#

omg what if Holy Toledo, Pollyanna, and Here Comes The Shock end up on 1972

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also, i'd love it if they do just
Verse
Chorus
Verse
Chorus
Solo
Chorus

like they did on 1039SOSH

icy tree
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But they're really good, especially Pollyanna

hallow creek
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To each their own but HCTS is terrible and the other two are just ok. Either way, there’s no reason to put them on the new album since they’ve all been released already for a long time so there’d be no point in doing so

icy tree
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I have a feeling it'll be released around my birthday since it's only 3 days after Billie's

devout meteor
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i think it'll be released when they say

plush warren
#

Idc when it’s released as long as it’s this year lol

worn gull
#

Holy toledo is not my favorite out of those songs, no.. Shock is really repetitive but it isn't the worst Green Day song in my opinion, Pollyanna is really good, it's my favorite out of those

hallow creek
#

Album 14 Discussion

slow crest
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No more 1972 😔

worn gull
#

vine boom sound effect

slow crest
hallow creek
# slow crest No more 1972 😔

After the fan posted about meeting Cavallo and posting the #not1972 hashtag I reached out to a close band source to see if 1972 was intended to be the title and was told they have no title for the record yet and are still in the middle of working on it.

So I guess the 1972 thing was just them celebrating turning 50 which doesn’t make much sense in terms of the teasers but đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž

slow crest
# hallow creek After the fan posted about meeting Cavallo and posting the #not1972 hashtag I re...

Still in the middle of working on the album? Well they seem to be taking a long time to work on it,
I’m happy they’re not rushing themselves. That’s one of my issues with Father of All, it felt kinda rushed and slapped together. Judging by the teasers, and the fact that Rob’s helping them with it, it sounds like this will be a really big album, like American Idiot or something like that. I’m excited

quiet berry
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potentially could be their best work in awhile

plush warren
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I thought a source said they finished recording it

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But it doesn’t even matter when it comes as long as it’s good

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Which I think it should be

slow crest
#

Judging by how the teasers sound, and how long they’re taking to make this, I’m guessing it’s gonna be another rock opera, which has me excited

pallid gulch
#

Another Rock opera album by this point would feel a little redundant if they're retreading American Idiot

worn gull
#

Yeah

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But as long as it sounds good I'm all there for it

pallid gulch
#

Absolutely

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I was kind of hoping for a return to roots 39 Smooth type album

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Only with the experience and growth the band has shown thus far

worn gull
#

That would be nice but

worn gull
pallid gulch
#

Very true, it's clearly not who they are anymore creatively and you can't force that upon them. There's gonna always be some semblance of it

worn gull
#

They were experimenting with foam but this new album sound a lot back to their revrad roots

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Skpe says it might be an opera truly based on the sound like AI and 21cb but revrad sounds like them both and isn't an opera album so maybe thats the kinda deal like revrad

worn gull
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Me too

devout meteor
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Revrad 2 would be amazing

worn gull
#

Revrad trilogy?

pallid gulch
worn gull
#

Yea

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Ik

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And same producer

pallid gulch
#

Rob is gonna make this album so crisp

worn gull
#

Definitely

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Chris and butch are not all that

#

They should stick to their music making

#

Dang :(

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The trilogy is underrated

pallid gulch
#

It's got some really good songs on it

#

It was too much at once, props to them for pushing themselves

worn gull
#

How does filler have to do with anything in music?

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I mean

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Filler in tv is episodes that don't contribute to the story so

pallid gulch
#

It's just a generic word people throw around to mean underdeveloped or lazily hacked together

worn gull
#

No

pallid gulch
#

In musical terms

worn gull
#

Well

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I see

pallid gulch
#

I don't think Green Day were lazy on the trilogy, you can't be lazy and make three albums worth of material

worn gull
#

Exactly

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But here comes the shock was definitely rushed

#

I feel like it was a forced song

pallid gulch
#

Too NHL

worn gull
pallid gulch
#

Feels like it belongs over a hockey commercial lol

worn gull
#

Ohhh

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I thought you were saying me too ngl...

worn gull
#

Oh

pallid gulch
#

Pollyanna and Holy Toledo are alright, catchy cute little pieces

worn gull
#

Yea

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I just realized

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Pollyanna is an anti-suicide message

pallid gulch
#

Now that you mention it, yeah

worn gull
#

Yea

worn gull
#

They have 72 posts

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I'm so curious

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Maybe its a private account where they post they're songs to exclusive paid people

pallid gulch
#

I thought all that was a ruse for Panicland

worn gull
#

No, can't be

indigo spruce
#

Their description is "If you're knocking, you don't belong here". I'd definitely subscribe to it being a secretive club or something similar.

worn gull
#

Is the album in those 1972 birthday teasers cancelled?

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We haven't heard much of it since then

pallid gulch
#

They used the same tag

worn gull
#

Okay then

#

Maybe it is them

slow crest
#

No songs for assholes is not a Panicland thing

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Mike and Tre follow it

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Plus when Billie was on instagram he used to follow it

#

This accounts been around since 2019 I believe

worn gull
#

Wow

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Yea

pallid gulch
worn gull
#

It's for Billie's nipples

#

I should've known

indigo spruce
#

Then we have to get into this account at all costs

pallid gulch
#

Instagram's security isn't something you can just circumvent

worn gull
#

Its rare but yk

pallid gulch
worn gull
#

Ok

worn gull
#

Hello

#

I think album 14 is gonna be a good album

#

Wish there was a name drop already

slow crest
#

I wish we at least got a single

worn gull
#

I don't think we'll get a single till it's close to finished

pallid gulch
#

Theory: the original title was 1972 and they changed it after Metallica revealed their new album 72 Seasons

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( joking btw)

worn gull
#

Oh

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But maybe

#

It's so stupid could be real

pallid gulch
#

It could be, they've been working on this album this long and still don't have a title? Smells fishy

worn gull
#

Exactly

#

What if the new album is called songs for assholes though

#

Like 72 posts on that account

#

1972

#

Weird

pallid gulch
#

14 followers, 14th album

worn gull
#

Exactly

#

If it weren't about the 14th album

#

Then they would have 5 followers

#

Billie, Mike, Tre, Jason, and Adrienne

pallid gulch
#

Exactly, plus whatever producer they may be working with

worn gull
#

Rob Cavallo

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He doesn't have an insta

#

I don't think

pallid gulch
#

Yeah, no he doesn't

#

I don't really think SFA is for 1972 specifically, it seems like a personal blog to log their recording progress for their friends/family

#

SFA would be a great title though

worn gull
#

Maybe

worn gull
#

If the title turns out to be SFA

#

Then I'll be shocked

pallid gulch
#

Same here, wanting them to release a single sometime soon, it's been long enough.

worn gull
#

Yeah

pallid gulch
#

Oh well, more time to work on it, the better the music

worn gull
#

Yea

#

The biggest mysteries of green day of all time are C&V and SFA

#

Pretty sure there's more

pallid gulch
#

C&V is a big one, they're gonna reveal SFA is them in like 15 years lol

#

Maybe they'll do like with The Network

worn gull
#

They did a shitty job at hiding it then

pallid gulch
#

Crazy how people find this kind of stuff

worn gull
#

Yea

#

Weird

slow crest
#

The guy who produced father of all

worn gull
#

If that was the case than Richie would be following them

slow crest
slow crest
worn gull
slow crest
#

Oh yea Richie bucher

sly ruin
#

Gettin antsy

hallow creek
warped sluice
#

Plot twist: turns out to be a 3rd rock opera and the b sides are from the scrapped 1972 sessions

sly ruin
#

I’d be so happy

#

My theorist brain would be going crazy

pallid gulch
#

Album 14 will be a Rock opera centering around the life and legacy of the band, the music video that they filmed will contribute to this concept and be the first thing they release for it

plush warren
#

That would be pretty cool

#

The MV def has their younger selves in it bc of that pic with the kid actors

worn gull
#

Yeah

reef oasis
#

Any green day song tops those three imo

#

Pollyanna is terrible, in light of still breathing

#

Holy toledo is just shit

#

And hcts

worn gull
#

Are you trying to cause drama

reef oasis
#

No

#

Ht and hcts are just bad

#

Still breathing > Pollyana

worn gull
#

Well

#

Pollyanna is still good

reef oasis
#

Yes

worn gull
#

It's got a nice anti-suicide message too

reef oasis
#

I meant ht and hcts crap

worn gull
#

True

reef oasis
#

Holy Toledo sounds like a low budget 2022 teenage high school drama

worn gull
#

Fits in with father of all's story

#

Teenage high school movie drama deal

reef oasis
#

You see the problem is it fits in with Father of all

#

Shit album

#

Like the instrumentals are catchy but goddamn did they fail spectacularly in the lyrics department

#

If you want FoA’s type of rock you listen to Muse

worn gull
#

Eh

reef oasis
#

Holy Toledo also sounds like the bad parts of the Trilogy condensed

#

Lyrically

worn gull
#

I like father of all

worn gull
reef oasis
#

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Loss of Control · Green Day

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℗ 2012 Reprise Records

Assistant Mixing Engineer: Andrew Schubert
Guitar, Producer: Billie Joe Armstrong
Lead Vocals: Billie Joe Armstrong
Background Vocals: Billie Joe Armstrong
Second Engineer: Brad Kobylczak
Assistant Mixing Engineer: Brad Townsend
Engineer: Chris Dug...

▶ Play video
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Sound familiar?

worn gull
#

No

#

Because I never listened to either

reef oasis
#

Now throw in Dos’ lyrics

reef oasis
worn gull
reef oasis
#

Of vocals

worn gull
#

Ok

reef oasis
#

No movie songs are ever good

#

Excuse The Forgotten

worn gull
worn gull
reef oasis
#

Also the fuck is this

#

It sounds like 1039 where they can’t decide what the fuck they’re trying to play

worn gull
worn gull
reef oasis
#

The only thing good off of 1039 was disappearing boy

worn gull
#

Don't leave me is good

reef oasis
#

Meh

#

Better than at the library

worn gull
#

I mean I can see why you hate it

#

It was their first album not everything is going to be worked out and planned

reef oasis
#

Oh rhat one

#

Dont leave me is good ye

#

I was thinking of the heavier one

#

Cant remember it

worn gull
#

No

reef oasis
#

Its that its just

#

Kinda crap

worn gull
#

That's what I mean

#

They didn't know how to write good songs

#

But Billie had some experience

reef oasis
#

I was there is good too

worn gull
#

Yea

#

I wish Billie would renew look for love, his first song ever and add it to the new album

reef oasis
#

I feel like HCTS was almost a demo version of 99 Revolutions with a touch of Know your Enemy

worn gull
#

Yea

worn gull
#

Oh god damnit I got distracted

#

Sorry let me fix that

#

There

reef oasis
#

What I wish they would do is release remastered singles every once in a while

worn gull
#

Yea

#

Same

reef oasis
#

As in they play it again but better

#

One for the razorbacks remastered

worn gull
#

That's what I mean by Renew

reef oasis
#

2,000 lightyears away

#

Ye

#

Honestly though

#

I wanna see them cover Muse’s heavier songs

worn gull
reef oasis
#

They probably will never do a cover

#

But imagine

worn gull
reef oasis
#

Well

#

More complicated* songs

#

Thats what I meant

worn gull
#

Yea

reef oasis
#

I dont mean simplicity is bad but if they could add some kickass riffs

worn gull
#

Yea

reef oasis
#

Ignore lyrics

#

I cant find the audio version

worn gull
#

Right

reef oasis
#

Anyways like

worn gull
#

I'm not a fan of muse myself but it's alright

reef oasis
#

What I hope for 1972 to be like is

#

Hmm

#

21st cb + AI + Uno

#

Throw in a bit of rev rad

worn gull
#

Yea

#

Sounds like that from the teasers

reef oasis
#

But not overly clean like uno I hope

#

Well like the entire trilogy

#

They practically removed almost everythibg

#

Baby eyes bass intro

#

99 rev higher bridge

#

Screaming

worn gull
#

I think Billie's scream vocals are fading

#

Like in youngblood

reef oasis
#

Well if he does it too much he risks losing his voice

#

Look at Bon Jovi

worn gull
#

Yea

#

Definitely

reef oasis
#

Also age ig

worn gull
#

Yea that's a factor

reef oasis
#

I’m only 16 but I guess time does weird things to your voice

worn gull
#

Yea

#

I'm 16 too

worn gull
#

Maybe

#

Just maybe

#

It's a rerecording of outlaws

reef oasis
#

Hmm

#

I mean its kinda like the outlaws solo but they added stuff

worn gull
#

Maybe a remaster

reef oasis
#

Did we get a release date yet

worn gull
#

No

reef oasis
#

Aw

worn gull
#

Yea

reef oasis
#

Any new teasers ive only found stuff from 5months ago

worn gull
#

Nope

#

Sorry

reef oasis
#

Hopefully that means its coming soon

worn gull
#

Hopefully

#

They've been working on it for a while

#

Bound to release any day now

sly ruin
sly ruin
#

Holy Toledo is amazing

warped sluice
#

What is going on
FOB
MCR
Blink 182
Paramore
have released singles over the months

Green Day better be dropping something big. Probably as an apology to FOA lol

worn gull
#

Green day just released a dingle

#

Alison

#

May be a demo

#

But I feel like things are great to come with nimrod 25

pallid gulch
#

It's not really what I'd call a proper single since yeah, it's a cover and demo

#

How do you think the Harley Davidson show is looking for potential fresh material?

slow crest
#

Well Alison and You Irritate Me were recorded during the Nimrod sessions. They’re great, but they don’t really count as new songs

reef oasis
#

Its amazingly bad

pallid gulch
#

It's the same as anything during the Father Of All era

#

A faceless blob of washed up nothing

#

Lame and generic in the most identity deficient way

sly ruin
#

Highly disagree

#

I think father of all has a lot of personality

plush warren
#

Nah holy Toledo is their best song since Back in the USA

#

It’s different

#

It sounds very theatrical

sly ruin
#

Yea, though I do love sugar youth and graffitia

pallid gulch
#

I don't understand how this car commercial music has any personality, it's cellphone commercial jingles. Sorry, I wish I could like it

worn gull
indigo spruce
#

The bridge of holy toledo is awesome, it even reminds me a bit of 21st cb with how it slows down and sounds big

sly ruin
#

You’re wrong

sly ruin
#

..

#

You’re wrong

worn gull
#

Ruby is wrong

#

I agree with canta

sly ruin
#

Thanks

slow crest
#

I agree with Canta

sly ruin
#

Thank you

#

I have formed an army

slow crest
#

Father of all is not their best album
.at all

But it still has a lot of personality. And I do think the album has a theme, it’s about getting older, and just watching the world around you basically go insane. Except it’s presented in a more poppy and strange style

#

I think it does have a bit of a story to it. Looking at some of the tracks like Meet Me on The Roof, I Was a Teenage Teenager and Stab You in The Heart, I think it’s just about a young adult, falling in love and basically destroying it all with drugs

#

Wait that’s American idiot. Shit.

sly ruin
#

Yes

slow crest
#

Father of All is like if American Idiot was more pop and trippy sounding. And 20 minutes shorter

#

And not as good

#

But still. Father of all is a nice album, I still like it :]

sly ruin
#

Yes đŸ€

plush warren
#

Yeah but the writing sucks on foamf

#

It’s obvious that they didn’t put as much effort into it

#

Most of the songs really don’t have much meaning

#

Most of the songs however do sound good but that’s just the talent of the band

sly ruin
#

Highly disagree

#

The lyrics on foam are incredibly underrated

heady escarp
#

I feel like their music started declining kind of around uno dos tre era

#

Their albums since then have had a few decent songgs

#

But foamf did not

indigo spruce
#

"Are we the last forgotten? Are we the long lost love?" What does that even mean? It's literally just Billie's go to lyrics

#

Next to "bottlerockets", "razor blades", and "lullaby"

sly ruin
#

Look at oh yeah for example of the amazing lyrics

#

Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 amazing lines

“Burning books in a bullet proof backpack”
“Shooting star of a lowered expectation”
“Reach for the sky with your face in the dirt”

#

Sugar youth is similar to peacemaker, it’s got the couplet style writing

#

It’s no masterpiece, but the writing is incredibly underrated, you just gotta look for it

indigo spruce
#

I'm no native speaker, I don't think I get the idea behind that second line. Is there a wordplay or something that I'm missing?

sly ruin
#

Shooting star of a lowered expectation?

#

Really hard to explain.. the best way I can describe it, he’s doing fantastic despite having a low expectation

indigo spruce
#

Ah ok I think I get it now, you meant how he used contrast

sly ruin
#

Yea

#

That line kinda hits me, but in the opposite way

hybrid sphinx
worn gull
#

Yes

hybrid sphinx
#

razor blades are these things, you use them to shave yourself but you can also CUT YORUSELF WQIHTR IT!!°!

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and then idk wtf is a bottle rocket

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i just want the new album to be good

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something memorable

hybrid sphinx
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i just want a good album and thats it

indigo spruce
hybrid sphinx
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idgaf if it is those teasers 1972

hybrid sphinx
worn gull
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Ok

hybrid sphinx
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revolution radio wasnt even that good

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modern gd sucks fr

worn gull
hybrid sphinx
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2012-2022 can go fuck itself

worn gull
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Stop going with the popular opinions on that

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Don't

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Just like them and accept them for who they wanna be

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Let them find their style

hybrid sphinx
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yeah

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rev rad is not even that mid

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probably best modern gd album

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but honestly those 1972 teasers really hypes me up that they found themselves again!!!!

worn gull
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Yea

heady escarp
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I think 21 century breakdown was pretty good

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After that

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Decline

hybrid sphinx
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i think they got that DUDE THAT PRODUCED NIRVANA

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and they were like

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"LOOK WHAT PRODUCER WAE HAVE BITCHES!!!!

heady escarp
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Yeah

heady escarp
hybrid sphinx
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i dont give a shit if you have the worse or best producer

heady escarp
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If 21 century had less guitar tracks, less vocal effects, and less random sound effects it would be incredibly good

hybrid sphinx
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Rob Cavallo made you!!!!!

heady escarp
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Huh

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I know who that is I just am confused

hybrid sphinx
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the dude that produced almost every gd album

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except warning and the first 2

heady escarp
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Yeah ik who he is

worn gull
# heady escarp Decline

I mean they knew what they were doing when they said We are the desperate in the decline
Raised by the bastards of 1969

hybrid sphinx
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that shit had so much effects

heady escarp
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Yeah

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Green day vocal effects suck

hybrid sphinx
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specially in the dream america part

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reverb delay radio effect

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distortion

worn gull
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I like that effect though

hybrid sphinx
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(the demo one)

heady escarp
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21cb - lots of guitar tracks - vocal effects - sound effects added during producing = one of their best albums

worn gull
heady escarp
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I'd love to hear what it would sound like if 21cb were recorded in the style of insomniac or nimrod

hybrid sphinx
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stfu its so different

worn gull
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It's really not..

hybrid sphinx
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GOD DAMMIT

hybrid sphinx
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the original one is way cleaner

heady escarp
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Also nimrod 25 comes out this friday right?

worn gull
hybrid sphinx
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IS IT THIS FRIDAY

heady escarp
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Jan 27

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I think

hybrid sphinx
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vocal distortion

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drums that arent produced at all

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they really went dirty

heady escarp
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Green day needs to make a good album

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I think blink-182 next album is going to be good

worn gull
hybrid sphinx
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im raelly all into it

heady escarp
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Edging is different than their older music but it has the same sound and isn't overproduced and hyperedited

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Edging was good tho

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I think album will be good

hybrid sphinx
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edging was better second listen

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first listen was wtf is this

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second listen was better