chatroom

[dusk imp]

Is there no 100iv mudkip channel?

[wide solar]

It will be available

As soon as CD starts

[dusk imp]

Ok cool

[mossy edge]

So happy we don’t need two forms of this.

[long silo]

Thank u @wide solar

[wide solar]

You do it??

[rotund gust]

two forms like sandshrew?

[long silo]

Not yet @wide solar

[wide solar]

If you have problem tell me by dm and i'll send you an example

[balmy marlin]

at what time does com day start in Australia?

[mossy edge]

Yea

[wide solar]

Sidney in 6h

[rotund gust]

nice indeed

[balmy marlin]

alright, thx

[mossy edge]

There much better ^.^

[wide solar]

NZ good choice too

[vocal acorn]

Only catch attempts & spinning stops causes cooldownsright?

[wide solar]

You can see it in pinned messages #tips_and_tricks

[long silo]

I like doing kiritimati for first hour or so since cooldowns are quick, then transferring to NZ or Sydney

[hardy sand]

When CD will start?

[wide solar]

In 1h43min

[long silo]

In 1 hour 43 min at Kiritimati

[lavish pebble]

So I got my 30 day ban, 31 days ago, and I log back in today and it says it’s still banned and for another 30 days, what? Please @ me if you know any way around it

[cloud jay]

has anyone got shiny shadow cubone?

[vocal acorn]

Took awhile but thanks!! lol

[brazen haven]

will the #event_news tab update for the best place to go for comm day?

[cunning pasture]

@lavish pebble

How did you get banned

[weary jetty]

i got a purified hundo sudowoodo

not really worth much but meh

[balmy marlin]

Hello everyone, I'm sorry to disturb the conversation I don't understand when I fly on the map and I come across a shiny it runs away every time you know why?

[weary jetty]

ur on cooldown

@balmy marlin pleaser refer to #tips_and_tricks for cooldown information and how to avoid this issue

[balmy marlin]

I have to wait for time before capturing it? Thanks you so much 🙂

[weary jetty]

ofcourse, what are u on? ios or android?

[balmy marlin]

Ios

With ipogo

[mossy edge]

Should have a cool down timer no?

[weary jetty]

yeah thats what i was gunna mention

go to ur settings menu for ipogo and turn on in game cooldown timer at the bottom

itll show u how long between catches when u teleport you have to wait

[molten pagoda]

What’s a lucky purified Pokémon look like and what’s it called?

[balmy marlin]

great thank you😅 I just activated it and what should I do now?

[weary jetty]

when u teleport now, it shud display a timer at the top of the screen of your cooldown time

[mossy edge]

It’s a little black and white clock and it will display a countdown time before you can spin or catch again

[outer halo]

Mudkip 100 chat?

[weary jetty]

well considering event hasnt started yet thats a mute chat

[balmy marlin]

oh yes I just saw he puts 108 so I have to wait 108 before I can catch up, is that it? 😉 but if the shiny leaves?

[weary jetty]

you can "hold" the shiny

[mossy edge]

It won’t leave unless you click on it and leave it on the catch screen

[weary jetty]

if you click on it and dont do anything for the time, you can catch it when the timer goes to 0

but you have to keep it on the screen for the entire time

[mossy edge]

If you drop a ball by “accident” the clock resets

I usually leave mine in camera mode

[vast chasm]

Oh thats a good idea

[whole tide]

Hey guys anyone know the cost of 100 pokecoins in brazil?

[versed elm]

Would you catch a shiny throh after 2 hrs from now and then wait 2 hr again for comm day or skip it?

[balmy marlin]

shundo throh?

[versed elm]

Not shundo. Only shiny

[tawny imp]

catch it its regional

[mossy edge]

I’d skip it

And wait for shundo

[balmy marlin]

meh, I would run personally. But up to you

oh yes I'm not very good I thought they could leave, thank you very much for your advice !!!

😇😁

[versed elm]

How much remaining for com day?

[weary jetty]

hr 3mins

[balmy marlin]

Kinda all depends on what time it is locally for you. If you catch it in 2 hours, then wait 2 more hours, you're still in time for Sydney

[versed elm]

Kiribati is first iirc

[tawny imp]

no ?

[balmy marlin]

1 hour and 3 mins is correct

hr 3 mins

[weary jetty]

dont u no me

[tawny imp]

NO

[mossy edge]

Yes

I hope I get a shundo early.. I don’t wanna stay up too late like sandshrew

[weary jetty]

u level 40 already?

[mossy edge]

Who?

[weary jetty]

u

[mossy edge]

I’m 50

[weary jetty]

ahh aight haha was gunna mention xp but doesnt matter to ya

[mossy edge]

I was 50 since last July

[elder viper]

I feel tonight's gonna be boring trying to get the specific shinies, hoping tomorrow at least can be better

[mossy edge]

I could use my lucky eggs and try and use them up

[vast chasm]

Think it's possible to get 10m xp in the next 24 hours for level 40 lol

[elder viper]

yes

[mossy edge]

Anything is possible

[elder viper]

Does whatever method of spoofing you have include an "Always Excellent" feature or no

[weary jetty]

i feel like ud deff get flagged for that lol

[vast chasm]

Yeah

[elder viper]

On Spheal day I got 42 million XP

so lol

Does it have auto AR+ too

[balmy marlin]

You won't get flagged for that

[elder viper]

That's 1,133 catches with a lucky egg on

Very easy to do

[weary jetty]

interesting, just figured a huge xp gain would be a sure sign

[balmy marlin]

Niantic doesn't track in game activity

There's legits all the time who grind out adventure week for fun, and hit 40 in a weekend. Niantic can't determine what's legit or not

[vast chasm]

Oh thanks, wanna get that XL candy

[sinful tusk]

how long till comday?

[atomic ruin]

How long until CD starts in first zone?

[mossy edge]

55 min

[elder viper]

55 minutes

[balmy marlin]

#event_news

[elder viper]

It's about 3 hours until New Zealand though

So I actually might play in Kiribati for once

[sly estuary]

Catch it, you wouldn't be playing at kiritimati anyways

[elder viper]

Yeah if you're not gonna play there then no reason not to

Well where is the Thro

[balmy marlin]

Same here dud, thinking of playing kiribati before i sleep

[elder viper]

I'm gonna just cuz I feel if I can get a shundo, shiny GL, or shiny UL early, then it's worth it

Cuz I want to play Tokyo later

[sly estuary]

I will play at Taiwan they get everything

Tainan or Taichung whichever rains shundos

[round nimbus]

Where the hundo channel for kip?

[balmy marlin]

CDay hasn't started yet

[mossy edge]

43 min

[round nimbus]

Thank you

@balmy marlin

@mossy edge

[balmy marlin]

Do I need to keep shiny pokémons?

[versed elm]

Well shit. I also got shadow shiny exeggcute now

[versed elm]

I skipped it

[hybrid zodiac]

How many hours till c day in Taiwan

[weary jetty]

3

oh u edited lmao

[versed elm]

What should I do now. Catch or skip😓

[weary jetty]

its in 39 mins @hybrid zodiac

[balmy marlin]

Taiwan is not in 39 mins

they are 12 hours ahead from est

[weary jetty]

smh i didnt read it correctly sorry

[balmy marlin]

currently 7:21am in Taiwan, so 4.5ish hours

[versed elm]

Well then goodbye. shiny shadow exeggcute

[hybrid zodiac]

Catch it

Wth

You got 2 days for mudkip

[mossy edge]

Yah catch it!

[sly estuary]

U don't need cooldown for shadow shiny .. keep it on catch screen.. teleport where u triggered cooldown (caught throh) and catch instantly

[versed elm]

Okay. I saved the coords. Arlo will be there till 2.5hours more.

My cooldown resets in 1hr

I'll hunt shundo mudkip and if i get none till cooldown reset, I'll just get the exeggcute

[pulsar aurora]

Ready to hunt these mudkip a

[sudden sparrow]

Cords please

[balmy marlin]

#event_news will have coords as each wave goes live

[weary jetty]

o.o

i just got shadow shiny cubone

welp rip this event in 23 mins lol

[jade copper]

How much time more left for the cday

[weary jetty]

maybe not, hmm where is first spot?

[jade copper]

kiramati

Ig

[versed elm]

#event_news

[mossy edge]

Can’t wait till rocket leaders have shadow gible

[wispy juniper]

Should I stay all 3 hours at kirtimati?

[jade copper]

No thers time

26min ishh

Is left

[weary jetty]

is it just the little island in the pacific or is there another option?

[jade copper]

Nup that's it

Wait like an hour or two to get another

[weary jetty]

thought another region opened up like every hr lol

but aight, was just curious considering im on cooldown from this shadow now

[rotund gust]

you can pretend youre on a boat in the ocean if you want an event starting every hour

[weary jetty]

lol its all good, ill take a shiny shadow cubone over the event starting lol

12 more 12km eggs in the chamber ready to start

[vagrant perch]

why do my notifications for discord come and go

[weary jetty]

which ones u referring to

[vagrant perch]

for example, I just got notified for the hundo bagon, and I scrolled up a bit and saw a hundo jangmoo that I never got notified for but got the @

just find it odd

[weary jetty]

ahh that is interesting

[sly estuary]

@vagrant perch discord notification sucks on mass tagging

That's the problem. But u can always switch to more reliable dm notification with the donor perks ( #donation_info )

[dusk chasm]

@vagrant perch if you have discord on two devices it can skip notifications on one of them

[vagrant perch]

alright thanks

[vagrant perch]

could possibly be because of my pc then

[weary jetty]

here goes the evevnt gents

[ember shuttle]

Let's go

[vagrant perch]

what event?

[ember shuttle]

Community Day Mudkip

[vagrant perch]

oh I didn't realise that was today

[weary jetty]

oh what?

they raised the event to 5hrs??

thought they said 3hrs lol

[night verge]

where is it?

[elder viper]

First check shundo!!!!!!!

Let's go!

[weary jetty]

check #event_news for loaction

[ember shuttle]

Check #event_news For current event location

[weary jetty]

very nice lone lol

sadly im just here and cant catch any

guess ill look for a shundo to hold

[mossy edge]

I’m too busy ordering pizza lol

[night verge]

sucks 4 u

or for me

[mossy edge]

If there is a delivery charge, do you tip?

[night verge]

shinyyy

[wispy juniper]

First 100 inv check and it's a shundo

[night verge]

damnn okayy

[storm oak]

I have a question so mudkip community day is coming tomorrow from 2pm to 5pm. So that's depend on what country i am spoofing at right?

Not my actual location right

[sly estuary]

2-5pm is the local time of that place you're spoofing to

The time where u live doesn't matter

[storm oak]

Thank you i was wondering

[night verge]

I think its world wide

like global

[storm oak]

Oh by the way there is 100 iv mudkip go catch it

[weary jetty]

theres been acouple lol

[ripe ibex]

I lost my Facebook

Therfore I've lost my pogo account

Sadly

[sly estuary]

Zuckerberg banned you?

[ripe ibex]

It's boring to start all over again

[weary jetty]

howd u lose ur fb?

[sly estuary]

You can mail niantic.. if you know your account details they will help u out

They ask you to make a new fb or Gmail and they link your old account to that

[cunning pasture]

How do you get sideloadly to give you a notification when a shiny spawns

[sly estuary]

@cunning pasture #ipogo support can tell you

[ripe ibex]

Hhhh, they asked me for Identity Card to see whether it's my account, but the problem is I created that facebook with with false personal infos, even if I send them a pic of my identity card I cannot get it back

[dusk chasm]

When does the next good spot start the event? Australia in like two hours isn’t it?

[night verge]

I thought australia was yesterday

[dusk chasm]

Australia is tomorrow already 😁

[sly estuary]

It's 10:20 at Sydney.. event starts at 2

[night verge]

ah

[sly estuary]

U thought Austria?

[versed elm]

Catch shundo in kirtimati or skip?

[sly estuary]

Catch

[dusk chasm]

Dang alright

Yeah catch

[versed elm]

Thanks

[balmy marlin]

Hi, good evening!

[dusk chasm]

Might as well, no other good spots for four hours

[sly estuary]

Evening

[north prairie]

Where is the hundo at kiribati

[sly estuary]

#100_tokyo

[balmy marlin]

Just a quick question if I may: pvpoke says pvpiv for GL swampert is 0/14/14 however #com_4 shows 0/14/15...

[sly estuary]

0/14/15 it says for marshtomp

It also says 0/14/14

For swampert

Bot filters them both options

[mossy edge]

GL- 0/14/14
UL- 0/14/13

[tidal acorn]

Better to switch shiny scanner off for dhundo hunting?

*shundo

[sly estuary]

Yea

[tidal acorn]

Thot so. Cool 👍

[weary jetty]

why lol

whats it matter

[balmy marlin]

@sly estuary thanks.... I didn't read it properly

[tidal acorn]

It's checks everything so anything can be shiny then

[weary jetty]

it tells u if its a shundo

doesnt really need to be turned off since it notifies you already

[sly estuary]

Coz everytime the one next to hundo will shine you feel boiling

[tidal acorn]

True. But why waste a check on non hundos.

[weary jetty]

wdym waste a check?

u dont have to check it at all

it states "a shundo "" has appeared"

[neat plaza]

Please could you help me ? Swampert Is better for GL or UL ?

[weary jetty]

and "a hundo "" has appeared"

[tidal acorn]

I know buddy. Read what left said.

[mossy edge]

I see them more in UL

[weary jetty]

whatever floats your boat, doesnt make a diff lol on or off

[lucid kiln]

Dry mudkip

[sly estuary]

Get one of both

[neat plaza]

Thank you very much !

[sly estuary]

It's good for both options..

[neat plaza]

Ok ok I try !

[tidal acorn]

Doesn't for shinies. Does for shundos.

[rotund gust]

it works by encountering all pokemon around you

[balmy marlin]

It counts scans as "seen" for your stats

[mossy edge]

Pfft stats

[neat plaza]

Too bad weather not boosted

[mossy edge]

You don’t want boosted if your looking for PvP IVs

[weary jetty]

so what ur saying is the more scans the less likely hood your specific hundo can be a shundo?

so technically then you want it off so no scans only hundo u click

interesting

[balmy marlin]

No, you'll just end up with a ridiculously high number of seen to low caught in pokedex, not that it matters much

[weary jetty]

so it doesnt matter then

only stats lol

[rotund gust]

hanke is sitting at niantic HQ rolling a dice for you every time you tap on any pokemon. you want him to only roll that dice on good IV pokemon so you dont land on the jackpot on a lame monster of the pocket sized variety.

[neat plaza]

Oh ya I need to check what level to catch ! Thanks for tip

[tidal acorn]

It will scan all spawns around u in random order. So instead of a shundo u cud get a bad ✨ reducing shundo chance in totality

[weary jetty]

hmm well alright then

[tidal acorn]

Same principle for PvP IV ✨ hunting

Although ppl do that less frequently

Lol

[thin idol]

Whats the next country will having a community day? After kirimati?

[tidal acorn]

NZ i think

[thin idol]

So few hours from now. I guess im going kirimati for now

[strange grove]

iw as walking norrmally and got him

[weary jetty]

kinda lame it wont tell u if a 100 iv spawns then

[rotund gust]

Kiri, then New Zealand then Australia then question mark

[long silo]

Any reason to get a mega GL rank 1 Swampert?

[balmy marlin]

just caught shiny 96iv mudkip

[balmy marlin]

Probs not lol can't use them in gbl currently. Who's to say if Niantic ever allows that either. You can use them in battles against your friends and shit though

[balmy marlin]

Doesn't work that way

[tidal acorn]

Then how?

[balmy marlin]

It's random

The first half of your statement is correct. The second half I would argue with

[tidal acorn]

That's what I said right?

[sly estuary]

When u tp to a place.. the spawns and shiny randomness is all pre decided..

Irrespective of the shiny scanner or not.. what's gonna happen gonna happen

[weary jetty]

so having shiny scanner always on doesnt change anything lol

[rotund gust]

but what about quantum pokemon?

[balmy marlin]

No, you said by getting undesirable iv shiny you lower odds on desired ones, it's random everytime

[rotund gust]

Schroeder's mudkip

[sly estuary]

Yea it doesn't.. only reason to turn it off.. because u don't want to mind the random iv shinies around you..

[tidal acorn]

I just mean whenever I tp to a hundo there are 5 spawns which it scans immediately. Changing my shundo probability from 1/25 to 1/125

[balmy marlin]

It can make the hunt a bit cringy...

[sly estuary]

Lol

[weary jetty]

ahh i like seeing them all

doesnt bother me at all

[small root]

CD started??

[hollow bear]

Who is schroeder?

[sly estuary]

Erwin Schrödinger

[rotund gust]

i dunno i typed shroe and accepted blindly the suggestion

[sly estuary]

And his cat

Couldn't give any less credit

@tidal acorn if u want to report the incident.. that'd be better coz #friends_trading_party is for trade messages

We handle the trolleys

[tidal acorn]

I hv. He hasn't been banned but my report got revoked that's all

[sly estuary]

Okay

[hollow bear]

If I am a bronze user, can I unlock the donor coords?

[tidal acorn]

I think he got banned from ipogo actually

[sly estuary]

@hollow bear yes

But no 90% discount on it

[night verge]

what does the donor coords even change?

[sly estuary]

You get a LOT of coords

[balmy marlin]

Some events have coords that are only for donors

[sly estuary]

And a bunch of new channels . See #donation_info

[night verge]

oh

[tame raptor]

do you use vip pogo?

[sly estuary]

Careful

U use something we don't allow

[tame raptor]

just a yes or no lol

[balmy marlin]

Got em

[tame raptor]

i didnt think of that

[sly estuary]

So better not to repeat that

Some methods are highly unsafe and causes bans.. best to be on a rooted android with gps joystick .. #pokemod for more

That's the secret sauce

[balmy marlin]

smh

[sly estuary]

I'm a ghost NVM

[tame raptor]

i was going to say if your spoofing service uses feeds then paying for premium in this discord is not worth it

[hot coyote]

Guys why is catching pokemon on ios slower than android?

[vagrant perch]

cause you have an iphone

[hot coyote]

No other way?

[tame raptor]

what iphone are you using? what ios?

probably outdated device tbh

[hot coyote]

Iphone 12 ios 15.3.1

[sly estuary]

#ipogo can guide better on why it's slow.. it's definitely not an old device issue coz that's new

[tame raptor]

yeah i don’t know. my ipad pro that came out in 2017 runs faster than my iphone 12 pro that came out last year

same ios versions

[lucid kiln]

Thats impossible

A14 bionic is wayyy better than the processor of ipad pro 2017

[tame raptor]

i have held the devices right next to each other and seen it with my own eyes

trades have gone through on my ipads screen before they went to my iphone

[balmy marlin]

There r 0 pokestops in kiritimati?

[mossy edge]

I think the mudkip hundo channel is frozen lol

[balmy marlin]

There's tons of pokestops at the coords in #event_news , given the size of the island lol

[weary jetty]

nah theres literally 0 hundos spawning

[vagrant perch]

there are? there are loads in fact and closely packed too

[balmy marlin]

He means because no posts in 20+ mins

it's a small wave

[whole tide]

Anyone got a good hpx route for Greece? Best for stocking items?

[mossy edge]

Yah last one I checked was 8:34pm

[sly estuary]

#tips_and_tricks might have one.. check their pinned messages

[balmy marlin]

#tips_and_tricks does. It has Thessa

no idea how to spell the rest

[whole tide]

Cool thanks

[sly estuary]

Thessaloniki

[balmy marlin]

Yeah that place

[sly estuary]

Autofill ❤️

[fringe dew]

yo

when does quests reset?

at 00:00?

[vast chasm]

also at community day

[naive halo]

Yes@fringe dew

[sly estuary]

Yea end of day or due to event

[fringe dew]

ny quests posts say they reset in 4 hours and they were posted like 9am

[rotund gust]

i liked that community day box what had storage in it

they should do that again

[balmy marlin]

is it currently 8pm for you

[fringe dew]

yea

21:00

[balmy marlin]

check now, does it say 3 hours

[fringe dew]

yes

thanks very much

[balmy marlin]

The posts are formatted to be converted to local time. So you don't have to try and convert your current time, to whatever cities local time

[sly estuary]

Time was on your side

[mossy edge]

30 min and no hundo… ooof

[balmy marlin]

This is normal lol

surprised we had so many in Kiritimati tbh

[mossy edge]

Not normal for me itching

[balmy marlin]

Things will be pretty slow until NZ and Australia go live

[mossy edge]

So another hr?

[civic gull]

What do you think will be in raids after landorus

[mossy edge]

I hope Latios and Latias

[civic gull]

I think groudon

[balmy marlin]

Yeah for Welly NZ

[civic gull]

Because its summer

[balmy marlin]

Sydney is only 11:05am

[mossy edge]

Ahh well can’t wait for it to pick up.. this is like watching paint dry

[balmy marlin]

meh lol I have laundry I'm doing at the same time

[civic gull]

Any one punch man fans here?

[versed elm]

When are y'all going to farm candies? Hawaii?

[mossy river]

Most likely Tapu Fini

Then after that no idea lol

[charred vector]

@lethal holly #pvp_community

[lunar spindle]

Anyone give me melmetal i will give Sylveon ok ?

[mossy edge]

I’m watching nascar, they started late

[lethal holly]

#pvp_community

[mossy river]

Why Melmetal when you can get it by yourself?

[balmy marlin]

Yeah Fini makes sense. We've been flip flopping between the genie trio and the alola four

[mossy river]

@charred vector @lethal holly english only

[lunar spindle]

I like melmetal can you trade

[charred vector]

Okey dude

[balmy marlin]

and you say this is boring? ha

[charred vector]

#español @lethal holly

[mossy river]

Just get it youself evolving Meltan

[late sapphire]

what time does Taiwan start?

[lunar spindle]

For evolving meltan 400 candy

[balmy marlin]

like, 5 more hours

[mossy edge]

Haha hey now, nascar is full of excitement

[mossy river]

So? Just open the mystery box and farm meltans

[balmy marlin]

To each their own haha racing just isn't for me

[strange grove]

dirty bird

i want to ask

im level 20 but if i do a raid well i get good cp pokemon cuz im not lvl 30 yet

[mossy river]

Yes

[honest stone]

Click for Donor coord
I didn't get cords

[mossy river]

The lvl 30 rule only applies on wild mons

[mossy river]

Because those are exclusively for donors

[balmy marlin]

Well you aren't a donor so

[versed elm]

Did you donate tho?

[rotund gust]

under level 30 the stats are randomised

[strange grove]

oh k thx then ill find carry

[mossy edge]

Yah raid mons have a specific range of CPs

[mossy river]

Yeah but only for wild mons

[honest stone]

No I didn't donate

[rotund gust]

all raid stats are randomised, but they usually start at +10 right?

[mossy river]

Then you won't see those coords

[strange grove]

when is mudkip cd starting in the hot places zaragoza pier 39.

[mossy river]

Yeah, but we mean that even under lvl 30 you can get hundos from field quests and raids

[honest stone]

I want mudkip Rank 1

[mossy edge]

Next week they are doing a dirt track. Their second time doing it and it’s pretty cool

[rotund gust]

10 hours i think for zara

[mossy river]

Wait for one to appear on #pvp_community

[strange grove]

pier39in usa.

?

i really want shiny swampert

[balmy marlin]

Easter weekend next weekend. I won't be watching lol I'll be cooking

[strange grove]

i got shiny Aerodactyl too just 10 mins ago by walking randomly

[mossy river]

That will be tomorrow

[strange grove]

then zara and pier starts tomorrow

[mossy river]

Yes.... I think xD

Just check those places local time with google

[balmy marlin]

3:15am in Zara right now

[rotund gust]

pier39 will be like 18 hours ish

[strange grove]

yes

event starts at 2pm to 5pm in zara right?

[balmy marlin]

Correct

[strange grove]

ill put a clock on it

just to not forget

and 3x exp too it will be so good

[versed elm]

You realize your tomorrow can be other's today right😂

[carmine stump]

Is there a list of gpx routes anywhere on this server ?? I can’t find anything other than the nest ones lmao

[strange grove]

yes confusing but i meant in uae

[balmy marlin]

#tips_and_tricks @carmine stump

check the pins

[strange grove]

its 5am here

[vocal acorn]

So WHERES everyone at during CD??? lol

[carmine stump]

Ty ❤️

[balmy marlin]

11

[strange grove]

im in zara irl uae.

[granite halo]

Yo quick question ipogo android and IOS both don't have cooldown timer right? And I don't know how to use the charts to see how long I have to wait can someone explain that to me?

[balmy marlin]

Why wait for Zara? You can hunt/grind many time zones before that

[strange grove]

eh idk where

so just wait

[balmy marlin]

NZ, Sydney, Tokyo, Taiwan, take your pick

It just started in nz, so either wellington or Auckland

Welly hasn't started

[strange grove]

guys

[balmy marlin]

But I'd shundo hunt, then grind

[strange grove]

i want my timer correct so its 3am in zara

for it to be2pm 11 hours right

in uae its 5am

[balmy marlin]

It's not in daylight saving time then... Ups

[sly estuary]

@strange grove yes u have to wait 11 hours.. so better not wait that much

[strange grove]

so minus 2 hours right

[sly estuary]

Play at Sydney or NZ

When it starts

[strange grove]

in map just type sydeny or what

[rotund gust]

11 hours you could either sleep or do one time zone them sleep or multiple timezones and then sleep or not sleep at all

[honest stone]

Event is started?

[sly estuary]

What is sleep?

@honest stone #100_tokyo yes

[mossy edge]

Sleeping is for the weak

[civic current]

Where are the hundo kips at 🤣🤣

[strange grove]

do i type sydney

and just taht

[balmy marlin]

I have 2 kids 🤷 no clue

[sly estuary]

@strange grove #tips_and_tricks pinned messages has coords

[naive halo]

It's a normal type Pokemon @sly estuary

[balmy marlin]

trying

[civic current]

Can't really play on my timezone, so I'll be grinding on other place

[balmy marlin]

Good farming coords for NZ? New to this

[sly estuary]

Pinned in #tips_and_tricks

[civic current]

I did evolve a lucky hundo and a rank 2 kip for ultra

[strange grove]

but i have to wait cooldown

so just wait in zara and tahts it

*thats

[naive halo]

Smh

[sly estuary]

2 hours is the max cd

You want to wait 11 hours.. sure

[strange grove]

its 5am so i will be sleeping soon

so ye 11 hours it is

[wicked trench]

Zara is ages away. Just wait for Taiwan and then do Zara

[sly estuary]

Ohh . That's sleep

[strange grove]

gtg to sllep bye.

[balmy marlin]

You should be waking up soon 👀

[rotund gust]

set your alarm a bit early so youre ready

[naive halo]

Nocturnal

[sly estuary]

I'd say he prefers night mode

Don't we all

[versed elm]

How many shundos are you aiming for

[naive halo]

Well nothing to do today might as well binge something on Netflix 👋

[tropic kraken]

Does anybody know why they bot is sendibg me no messages?

[low bay]

Send then friend request

[sly estuary]

@low bay #friends_trading_party

[mossy edge]

Wait, we can win donor tiers?

[limpid coral]

Yes... If your lucky i guess

[vestal bough]

rarely, yeah.

last giveaway had 720 participants. that's a 0.13% chance.

[mossy edge]

Nice, didn’t know 😄

[balmy marlin]

Where i can find giovanni now?

Singapore and Sydney for sure

[fossil marsh]

Syndeypore

Or singaney

[glossy heron]

Boost for mudkip in nz anywhere?

[strange grove]

sneaking my phone rn.

[cunning vale]

plz help me

[strange grove]

singapore has started

[strange grove]

?

[balmy marlin]

What? lol they asked about Giovanni. Yes, Giovanni is spawning in Singapore rn

[strange grove]

ohh ok sprry

*sorry

[fluid forum]

4 mins left for cd to start at NZ

[glossy heron]

Middle of the night for me, waiting for mudkip cd then straight going watch F1 in Australia, gonna be tired AF after

[strange grove]

newzland?

[fluid forum]

Yes

[balmy marlin]

hmm

[fluid forum]

@glossy heron Remove that emoji

[cunning vale]

I clicked Click for Donor coord

[strange grove]

can u give me coords in dm pls

[balmy marlin]

Well you aren't a donor, so donor coords won't work

[fluid forum]

@strange grove no asking for coords if you need hundos then keep an eye on #100_tokyo

Or #pvp_community for R1

[strange grove]

oh ok

[balmy marlin]

how long till com day starts in sydney?

2 hours

[pastel wyvern]

HI! How me I validate my bonzor signature? Pls

[cunning vale]

what is it

[balmy marlin]

dm @faint orbit

[cunning vale]

help me

[balmy marlin]

click the tag, the instructions are in it's status

[fluid forum]

With ?

[brave goblet]

where is better in new zealand?

wellington?

or auckland

[glossy heron]

Wellington Sunny atm

[brave goblet]

boosted for mudkip is rainy

[fluid forum]

@rich kiln if that was a trainer code then post it in #friends_trading_party

[brave goblet]

wonder whats the weather in auckland and australia

[naive halo]

@pastel wyvern dm @faint orbit ?verify your email

[pastel wyvern]

O did the signature as brozor. But I don't know How to efetetivete. Helô!

[glossy heron]

Yup, rain not seen in any part of nz atm @brave goblet

[fluid marten]

Anywhere rainy today?

[glossy heron]

Europe thats for sure

[mossy edge]

I got a shundo! Sooo happy 😊

[rotund gust]

is mudkip and its evolutions good in all leagues or just okay in some?

[brave goblet]

Guess we are going to ukraine for rainy weather today

[fluid marten]

Swampert is goat in all leagues

Better get them all

[brave goblet]

Let me try for some shundo

[fluid marten]

My fav mud boi

[rotund gust]

have a LL in kiri

[balmy marlin]

You have to verify with RoleBot, if you donated through Patreon

[fluid marten]

Only weak to grass lol

[balmy marlin]

@faint orbit click this and follow the command in its status

[fluid marten]

Think can skip little cup lol

[balmy marlin]

I was checking LC Swamperts for the hell of it lol

[fluid marten]

Can it even qualify? Haha

Cp500 limit

[balmy marlin]

why wouldn't it? Low enough level, it'll stay under 500

[fluid marten]

Yeah should be pretty low and few coords

Forget it hahaha

[rotund gust]

its only mudkip not swampert this one

[balmy marlin]

Oh hm, wait, isn't LC only non evolved pokemon?

[hollow bear]

Best pvp stat for swampert in great league and ultra league?

[mossy edge]

I had a rank 2 for LC vena

[balmy marlin]

#event_news says in the infographic

[naive halo]

Would Love to see more swamperts in great league makes my job easier

[mossy edge]

Yah maybe I could bring my machamp to beat them

[rotund gust]

community days are nice you never feel bad leaving a shiny

[mossy edge]

Anyone use pokeballs to catch shundos or is it just me?

Good! Lol 😂

[fossil marsh]

I catch them with pokeballs then transfer them

👈👈😎

[balmy marlin]

Gotta L50 them first

[slim basin]

guys

how to find rhyhorn?

its so hard to find it

[pastel wyvern]

I did the bronzor plan. But I chhecked the mail but is still didn't work.

[fluid forum]

Have you dmed @faint orbit ?

[balmy marlin]

nope, i tried twice lol your turn

[fluid forum]

Not spawning rn

[pastel wyvern]

How me I did the @rolebot?

[slim basin]

why

[wicked trench]

seasonal changes means some pokemon are out of rotation for 3 months.

[slim basin]

is rhyhorn just spawnfor event?

[wicked trench]

it's season of alolan now.

[slim basin]

ooh

how to get mythical?

[pastel wyvern]

@faint orbit

[cunning vale]

i find rank1 mudkip.
should I buy bronze rank?

[fluid forum]

First tap on @faint orbit then click on message and type - ?verify <your patreon email>

[wicked trench]

Meltan? See #tips_and_tricks on how to get a box

[slim basin]

is it Mythical?

[pastel wyvern]

What message I ve send to the @roleBot?

[young elm]

#com_1 what’s kariyushi?

[naive halo]

Okinawa pika

[fluid forum]

?verify <your patreon email>

Mention your own email there ^

[wicked trench]

yes, meltan is mythical

[young elm]

All I got was hundo pikachu

[slim basin]

ooh

[wicked trench]

others are obtained from quests if you have them

[young elm]

What’s that

[naive halo]

[young elm]

I got normal pika

[wicked trench]

not every pikachu there wears a shirt.

[naive halo]

Yeah both exist in that place keep checking

[cunning vale]

help me please

[wicked trench]

you can still get Rank 1 mudkip from #pvp_community without a donor role

[fluid forum]

Use #friends_trading_party for trade @lunar spindle

@cunning vale if you get bronze you will also get additional channels , check #donation_info for more details

[lunar spindle]

@fluid forum there are no members

[cunning vale]

ty

[pastel wyvern]

I sent my my to @roleBot but It still didn't work

[fluid forum]

Just post that on #friends_trading_party and if somebody wants to trade with you then you will get a dm

[naive halo]

Oh it did work tho

[fluid forum]

Now you have the role

[wicked trench]

you have the role now as we can see from the colour

[pastel hearth]

Bronzed

[lunar spindle]

#friends_trading_Sylveon

[naive halo]

Lol

[fluid forum]

Tap on #friends_trading_party then on that channel write whatever you want to trade @lunar spindle

[lunar spindle]

Ok

[fluid forum]

Make sure to check the channel description before posting there

[pastel hearth]

R u Guys ready for pokeflex mudkip spam?

[cunning vale]

tysm

[balmy marlin]

can’t get mudkip shundo 😡

[rotund gust]

:(

[mossy edge]

Neither can my friend

[balmy marlin]

closest i got is 96

[lavish plume]

Every time I try to catch ditto it flee 😞

[pastel hearth]

U sure u not on cooldown?

[lavish plume]

Wha?

[balmy marlin]

Is mudkip even that good?

[rotund gust]

you cant catch a pokemon in Paris then immediately in New York

[lavish plume]

Oh

[lavish plume]

How long do you have to wait

[naive halo]

@lavish plume just close your game for 2hrs then go to #ditto and catch the latest one

[lavish plume]

Ah ok

Well nap time then

[rotund gust]

two hours is the maximum, but its distance dependant

[lavish plume]

So like even even if I wait 2 hours then tp

It will flee

Or

[balmy marlin]

If u think you might be on cooldown still try catching a bad Pokémon u don’t care about and see if it flees

[lavish plume]

Yesh

Yeah

[rotund gust]

like London to Paris can be done in something like an hour and a half or less maybe, but new york to london is 2 hours

[lavish plume]

I tried casting like 15 swaillows

[lavish plume]

Ok so time/distance

I'll just wait till morning

[balmy marlin]

Is mudkip worth the work?

[lavish plume]

Thanks

[vast folio]

Cooldown chart is there in #tips_and_tricks pins and if you got coords of the places/spawns you can use "?dist" in #bot_commands too

[vast folio]

Definitely, useful for GL and UL at least. Plus free shundos are always good

3x catch exp too

[lyric oak]

All hail lord mudkip!!

[balmy marlin]

Well I got a shundo max and a shiny max already after 10mins

Max evolution *

[tawny sail]

I just lost a chance to catch a shundo piplup !

[rotund gust]

not Maximilian Pegasus

[tawny sail]

It got despawned in a sec

😭

[vast folio]

stack up R1s or the exp too if ya want, else it's pretty much done

[balmy marlin]

R1s?

What’s r1s

[vast folio]

rank 1 for the PvP tiers

#pvp_community 🍀

[devout berry]

Caught a shundo in Antartica lol

[rotund gust]

:( that happened me with a pokemon a few weeks ago

[tawny sail]

😭

[balmy marlin]

Oh I’m not big on pvp

[river rock]

Hi guys.. Any place good for stocking up pokeballs??

[rotund gust]

is GL marsh only or can swamp be GL too?

[devout berry]

Swamp can GL too

[grim jasper]

What's the point of leveling up from 41-50 when ur mons can reach 50 anyway when ur 40

[whole bobcat]

To be better lol

[rotund gust]

for something to do?

[balmy marlin]

Anyone got any guesses on when the next Mewtwo event happens

[whole bobcat]

Level 60 will for sure come when level 60 played level does too

[mossy edge]

Level 60 won’t be here for another 3 years

[whole bobcat]

And if you don’t max out your level it shows your a spoofer

[vestal bough]

4.6 mil exp and 482 catches

[whole bobcat]

I saw some level 41 with 100k Pokémon caught and 10k km walked

[vestal bough]

is that remotely decent

[whole bobcat]

Yes

[vestal bough]

great

my necks tired looking down at the screen lmao

[whole bobcat]

500 mudkip and a decent exp lol

[vestal bough]

I had to time out for a bit cuz I ran outta balls

and I didn't wanna spend the ultra ones cuz that's a waste

[whole bobcat]

I had already stacked up on pokeballs

[vestal bough]

I was planning to but there was a surprise event and had to go out

some kind of dinner

didn't really pay attention to that haha

[whole bobcat]

Started at 600 poke balls and ended with 100

[vestal bough]

nice

[balmy marlin]

Anyone got any guesses on when the next Mewtwo event happens

[rotund gust]

i use my hyper balls first usually, just to use them up

[whole bobcat]

Probably sometime this summer

[vestal bough]

i got 614 ultra balls rn apparently

I should get to using them, theyre clogging space

[nimble flame]

When will com day start at Sydney?

[vestal bough]

it's already started

nvm

[mossy edge]

I used to run 800 balls for CD, found out it’s not enough

[vestal bough]

1 hour from now

[mossy edge]

Now I run 3400

[nimble flame]

F

I was waiting for Sydney n haven't slept yet 😢

Coz someone said it's from 8.30

[whole bobcat]

There’s no way you use 3400 pokeballs for cd

Maybe when it was 5 hours

3 hours is not even close to being able to

[mossy edge]

I didn’t say I use them all…

Well I have when it was 800

[vestal bough]

3400 as a precaution, probably use half of that?

[whole bobcat]

Yea probably on 5 hour

It’s 3 hours now

You’ll probably only need that 800

[mossy edge]

Well I still have over 2300 in my bag

[whole bobcat]

A quarter were used basically

Just about

A little over

If I had eaten later or earlier I would have caught a little more

[vestal bough]

damn the 2x transfer spotlight hr already passed

I wanna transfer these mudkips on that day

[whole bobcat]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

I just transferred them all

[vestal bough]

kinda tempted to since I don't need that much candy

[whole bobcat]

I got 1 UL and I didn’t get my GL one

And a shundo and hundo

[vestal bough]

but might wait for a guaranteed xl trade event

like December's season did

[whole bobcat]

Next season hopefully

[mossy edge]

You’re gonna wait that long?

[vestal bough]

I'm gonna hunt for shundos tomorrow since it's almost midnight rn

[mossy edge]

Not worth it.

[vestal bough]

yeah, hopefully

[whole bobcat]

Definitely worth it lol

Trade 100 times with a alt account?

[vestal bough]

I have like 1.5k space left. I can wait haha

[whole bobcat]

Def worth it

[mossy edge]

Not worth holding onto all those mudkips for 8 months..

[whole bobcat]

That’s why you have large storage

[vestal bough]

might come up earlier, who knows

plus, that's like 4x the amount of xl I have now

[barren garnet]

Lagiantic is laggy right now 😩

[vestal bough]

all guaranteed, and I'll probably get more.

[mossy edge]

But how much candy do you really need?

[vestal bough]

XL candy? enough to max out some shundos

[mossy edge]

Okay 296 for one

[vestal bough]

not just the one tho

[mossy edge]

How many are you getting?

[vestal bough]

probably 2 or 3 for a team, since that's all I use for maxed lobbies

[mossy edge]

5? 8?

[vestal bough]

hell no

I'd die before I get enough for that

[mossy edge]

I have 5400 candies and 479 XLs..

[vestal bough]

I've caught like 10 mudkip before today, tbf

I stopped playing 2 years ago

[mossy edge]

You need to find a mudkip nest

[vestal bough]

got back into it in October for spooky season

can't be bothered for that

[whole bobcat]

Mudkip nest aren’t even available for a while Lmao

And plus, mega swampert is probably going to be the next mega

I need more xl candies too but I’ll just go to New York for it

Cause I already got a shundo for it so I’ll be set for it

[mossy edge]

I’ll just take my buddies account and trade 100 mudkips for guaranteed XL

[whole bobcat]

True

[sinful tusk]

whats currently the best place to farm candies for mudkip?

[celest zodiac]

What if we cross timezone on communityday?

[vestal bough]

1 female out of 30 shinies damn

[vestal bough]

new zealand, but Sydney, AU in 40 minutes

[celest zodiac]

After that where to spoof?

[proud cypress]

What's the best place to catch mudkipz?

[whole bobcat]

New york

[sinful tusk]

is there a gpx route for it?

[whole bobcat]

New York is really good

[vast folio]

Wellington for now #event_news to get coords @proud cypress

[vestal bough]

tokyo? they start soon too

[vast folio]

Would be in #tips_and_tricks, there's a Gdrive with all GPX

[proud cypress]

My man!

[sinful tusk]

thanks

[vast folio]

though for a cday just a hotspot will do 🍀

[maiden flax]

Go to 2 places or more

[sinful tusk]

i see one what is melb aus

[maiden flax]

#friends_trading_party

[naive halo]

Melbourne

[vast folio]

no worries, just gotta watch your cooldown

[sinful tusk]

i found it

[vestal bough]

either hunt for a hundo or go to #2600cp (or you can trade for it, but that's time consuming)

[maiden flax]

Or #2000cp #2600cp

I found an eevee nest i think

[pastel hearth]

@vast folio 😏

Morning my number

[vast folio]

morning my bother

[balmy marlin]

finally got a shundo mudkip

now to wait for cd

[sinful tusk]

rip the the gpx for sdyen its not in the perfered hotspot area

[grim jasper]

Any pvp champ/lord/gods ..pls clear me this

Is rank 9 swampert better than rank 1 against ul meta?

[vestal bough]

probably not? you can check stats on stadiumgg

[vast folio]

head to botanical garden, when it's active. Should be good enough

[sinful tusk]

wheres that sdny?

[vast folio]

yep

[vestal bough]

you can only claim one community day box right?

[maiden flax]

yes

[sinful tusk]

i need it to auto walk wish it was bulit with jps joystick app

[vast folio]

You can open the app, select routes and make a random one too

[maiden flax]

im sacrificing half my cd for a slaking...

[grim jasper]

Yea rank 1 is better in terms of stats but u see..its not always about stats right? Sometimes practically things are different right

[sinful tusk]

oh i will try it

[grim jasper]

Im not sure myself i just heard..so wanted to confirm

[sinful tusk]

im using the sdy gpx im in taiwan

what game

[balmy marlin]

How do I complete 100 walk per week

[vestal bough]

I wouldn't if I were you. it'll get knocked down eventually, and there's better options like chanseys evolution (can't remember its name) that can actually deal damage with psychic moves

[maiden flax]

but theyre so rare

like i only ever saw one

[rotund gust]

blissy?

[maiden flax]

slaking

[vestal bough]

just evolve one

[vestal bough]

yeah haha

[maiden flax]

i dont have slakoth

[vestal bough]

you can wait, it's not great at all.

[whole bobcat]

Don’t waste your cd for a slaking lol

Slaking is really bad tbh

[maiden flax]

ik that

but i need the regist

[vestal bough]

then wait for fall or something. they were plentiful then.

they'll always come back

[maiden flax]

what happens if you encounter a mon after tp then tp back to where u tpd from

will it break cooldown?

[zenith spruce]

It runs/errors out. That method only works for catching shadows

[maiden flax]

oh

[maiden flax]

i can change timezones

ig...

[whole bobcat]

It doesn’t work like that lol

[maiden flax]

it does

i can just tp to a place where it just started

[whole bobcat]

It doesn’t lol

You mean like com day?

Or what?

[vestal bough]

not unless you wait 2 hours after catching slaking

[maiden flax]

cd

[whole bobcat]

Cool down you have to wait no matter what

It doesn’t matter what you do

[maiden flax]

oh

[whole bobcat]

Some people really think I spoof 🤦‍♀️

I got kicked from a discord server because the think I cheat

[rotund gust]

you dont spoof thats silly

[balmy marlin]

is there any way for non donors to get rank 1 mudkip coords?

[whole bobcat]

Probably

[rotund gust]

#pvp_community when they show up

[balmy marlin]

👌

[grim jasper]

I ran slaking with eq in ml and actually won quite few😂

[whole bobcat]

That’s luck lol

[grim jasper]

Yea

[whole bobcat]

No idea why they don’t know how TIME ZONES work lol

[grim jasper]

One opponent after getting his dialga one shotted by slaking he directly gave up

[whole bobcat]

Lmaooo

[grim jasper]

Didnt even try to fight back

[whole bobcat]

Well im just gonna be bored now lol

[grim jasper]

Same

Camping for that shiny mudkip (rank 1 ul)

23 more mins

[rotund gust]

stop cheating by living in an area of the world where time is happening ahead of their time, or at least give the admin lottery numbers

[maiden flax]

k yea

i dont wanna wait slanking

is it rlly more common in fall?

(slaking)

[rotund gust]

i got a shiny sloth in January

[maiden flax]

nice

but are slaking even common at any point?

like heracross was a few weeks ago?

[rotund gust]

there was a lot in November to February

[maiden flax]

rlly?

[vestal bough]

got the shundo

lv 23

[rotund gust]

maybe more than that, thats when the ones in my baggy are from

all pokemon cycle around, unless youre impatient theyll come back around and be common again

[maiden flax]

oh ok

i joined in march

[whole bobcat]

Nice

[whole bobcat]

I didn’t get mine I’ll get mine later

I just got a regular rank 1 UL

I got a shundo tho

[stone silo]

its mudkip getting his legacy hidrocannom?

[vestal bough]

yes

[rotund gust]

i got my shundo the hard way, weeks after it had a spotlight hour

[maiden flax]

ok im trusting you...

[rotund gust]

🥴

[static hearth]

yo guys

[whole bobcat]

Sup

[bleak quest]

Is there a channel to find friends?

[whole bobcat]

#friends_trading_party

[bleak quest]

Thanks!

[static hearth]

can some of you help me in a quest?

[whole bobcat]

What quest

[rotund gust]

Australia has begun 🥳

[static hearth]

its like send 10 gift to friends

but the friends i had i hv send to all

[wind folio]

Best place in Australia

[fluid forum]

@bleak quest #friends_trading_party channel is for adding friends if you are looking for someone then please don't write in-game names here , to find them change your buddy name as your discord user name or an email id and wait for them to contact you

[vestal bough]

you can find friends in #friends_trading_party

[static hearth]

i hv a time out rip

[fluid forum]

Check #event_news

[whole bobcat]

Lmao

[vestal bough]

look for friend tags by scrolling up

[fluid forum]

Just wait for it or add the trainer code already posted on that channel

[static hearth]

no like its a 6 hrs cooldown

[pine sorrel]

can hydro cannon be learned through tm after the cday period or is it only evolve?

[fluid forum]

Only through evolve

[whole bobcat]

2 hours after cd

Oh myb didn’t read it fully lol

[pine sorrel]

ughhh :(

i have a really good shadow swampert that needs it

oh well

[fluid forum]

And it's only during cd or 2hrs after the cd

[vestal bough]

unless you got elite tm, but you'll have to wait for the next cday for it if you don't got one

850 coins

[stone silo]

i envolve marsh to swampert and i dont get his legacy

[fluid forum]

Where did you evolve it ?

[vestal bough]

won't work if the event hasn't started yet in your area @stone silo

[pine sorrel]

wait if u evolve shadow marshtomp will it give u the cday move still?

[rapid flame]

Too bad mudkip wasn't a rocket reward recently

[stone silo]

bruh

[vestal bough]

you'll know by the hundreds of mudkips spawning around you

[maiden flax]

it was

[fluid forum]

Have you removed frustration ?

[stone silo]

i did a mess

[pine sorrel]

no

[fluid forum]

Then you won't

[stone silo]

i dont remove frustation

[maiden flax]

i got a few but the ivs...

[stone silo]

now i see

[rapid flame]

Like weeks ago, no?

[maiden flax]

yea

[pine sorrel]

even if i get a second move?

[maiden flax]

it still is

[stone silo]

thats why i dont get hidrocannon

[maiden flax]

the these waters are treacherous

[fluid forum]

No , can't get it on second slot

[vestal bough]

yep. you could've removed it a few days ago

[pine sorrel]

i only started playing again for cday :((

[rapid flame]

Would be nice if it was available during the frustration event

[pine sorrel]

ree

[hybrid hull]

Is level 23 IV 88 mudkip playable if I transform into swampert in GL?

[rotund gust]

marsh is a TR reward right now innit?

[fluid forum]

Get a R1 from #pvp_community @hybrid hull

[vestal bough]

depends on attack/defense/hp but yeah. not very good compared to r1, but anything is playable

[rapid flame]

We need some raiinnnn

[stone silo]

if i get a second move in my shadow mudkip it will learn hidrocannon?

[fluid forum]

No

[hybrid hull]

12/13/15

[whole bobcat]

I got like a 80 something percent mudkip so I kept it and got hydrocannon

[fluid forum]

Only if you have removed frustration then you can get hydro cannon

[whole bobcat]

Yeah

[stone silo]

what a mess man

[whole bobcat]

[stone silo]

i thought i remove all my shadow mons

[vestal bough]

decent, could've been 10/15/15 or similar and be better and still be 88iv. you can probably find a better option tho.

[fluid forum]

If you can spoof just get a R1 from #pvp_community

[strange grove]

guys

is there any leg pokemons

other than