#Strong forsburn players

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bold wraith
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I’ve decided that ranno is lame in R2 and i will play fors until i find someone funnier, looking for VODs to watch of good forsburns

teal ermine
spark plank
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cakeassualt

teal ermine
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mkleo also has a good fors

bold wraith
spark plank
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they swapped to fors

bold wraith
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smh

warped hemlock
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I'll teach you everything you need to know

bold wraith
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@warped hemlock What kind of gameplan do you have with smoke? In the last ~3 or so hours of learning it feels like super hard to keep it on stage or get in a position where the opponent doesn't just remove it instantly

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In R1 i feel like you could control certain parts of the stage with smoke more consistently and now it feels like I can't get anything from it

warped hemlock
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Smoke maintenance is the exact same in r1 and r2

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You just smoke constantly and if you stop smoke is gone

bold wraith
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oki doki, so when I have smoke what should I be doing?

warped hemlock
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Smoke is great because it allows you to threaten cc and shield at any point and your opponent cannot space it

bold wraith
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I got from Spyker that you can kinda get whiff punishes from it since they have to press buttons to remove it, but how do I go about doing that?

warped hemlock
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Because they can’t see you

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Spyker is still r1 pilled

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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That strategy works but not the best degree

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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And remember that it only reveals you for as long as you commit to the option

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So if I shield in the middle of smoke and then wavedash oos you have no idea if I’m wavedashing left or right

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The second you jump oos you disappear

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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There’s a lot more fundamentally you should be working on

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You can be a masters Forsburn with just combust

bold wraith
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definitely

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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And I think that’ll do you better for a while

bold wraith
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just combust and not playing w/ smoke?

warped hemlock
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Clone is gutted and you have to be God (or me)

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To use it

bold wraith
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That is a thing i was gonnna ask

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it takes really long to come out so idk how to get great use of it

warped hemlock
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And then smoke is a layer of complication you don’t need when Forsburns normals are broken

bold wraith
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also just feels laggier to pop but that might be me

warped hemlock
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They help a lot but I think focusing on getting more consistent with Forsburn neutral without smoke

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Enhances your smoke usage 10 fold

bold wraith
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gotcha

warped hemlock
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So for the purposes of learning, I always recommend don’t go too crazy with smoke

bold wraith
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Should i still try to implement smoke whenever, just not focus on it then?

warped hemlock
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Like don’t play without it but try to yeah

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Exactly that

bold wraith
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ok gotcha

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i think the main thing for smoke i need to learn is recovering then

warped hemlock
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Once you get the hang of fors neutral, everything else flows

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I also recommend grabbing a walk mod button

bold wraith
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im not very consistent with the ledge grabbing mechanics for his teleport

bold wraith
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dunno how good that is tho

warped hemlock
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Yeah you basically wanna tp slightly down but not too down that you lose the ledge grab hitbox

bold wraith
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I kinda want Dpad walk back though

warped hemlock
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Whatever is comfortable for you

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Me too

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But walk mod is like

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Non negotiable for complete control

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Pivot Dtilt is disgusting on fors

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And pivot is 1 frame tech

bold wraith
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Pivot dtilt?

warped hemlock
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But with walk

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You can just

bold wraith
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is that different from just buffering a turnaround?

warped hemlock
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Yeah so you can cancel your dash into a walk in a different direction

bold wraith
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can't you like

warped hemlock
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Which allows you to turn around DTILT in situations you’d otherwise get DA

bold wraith
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cactuar it?

warped hemlock
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Cactuar only happens in the run state

bold wraith
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like hold down and back and tilt stick down

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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You cancel your the first frame of run into crouch

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But I’m saying you can DTILT during dash

bold wraith
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i don't think i can do that with my current walk mod

warped hemlock
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Like during dash

bold wraith
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I see

warped hemlock
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Yeah I use it on my shoulder

bold wraith
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fors initial dash seems p long

warped hemlock
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Yeah it’s horrid

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I hate it

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I hated it since r1

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LOL

bold wraith
warped hemlock
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Why

bold wraith
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i have a back button on my controller, might have to use that

warped hemlock
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I promise you can get rid of one LOL

bold wraith
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Jump and Shield are non-negotiable

warped hemlock
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Man

bold wraith
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Nah

warped hemlock
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LOL

bold wraith
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wavedashing is better when its just pressing both shoulders

warped hemlock
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ITS LITERALLY THE SAME

bold wraith
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nuh uh

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im not gonna spend like

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50+ hours learning how to jump on another button low key

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not feeling like doing that again

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i learned shoulder jump as a way to stop using stick jump like 8 years ago

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Back to forsburn shit though

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What should I immediately start doing?

warped hemlock
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If you’re not maximizing your reward on DI in, you’re gonna have an extremely hard time actually finding consistent success