#V Rising 1.0 server

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grizzled panther
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i donated some reinforced bone equipment for any brand new players

still hollow
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Gonna have a chest meant for others to be able to take whatever if they visit my castles, like this:

wooden chasm
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What's the timetable, specific hours, for PvP during the weekends?

novel jungle
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"Free Stuff Here" (don't mind the traps)

violet lynx
wooden chasm
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Thanks for the info.

novel jungle
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yep, it's set to 3pm to 3am local server time, which is UTC+2

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aka CEST

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Central European Summer Time

desert maple
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If it's helpful, I plugged it in here to check the times for the first PVP day!
Start Time: <t:1715432400:t>
End Time: <t:1715475600:t>
Should be in local time for anyone looking at it!

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(Leafein and Zangiry, if the time stamps are at all wrong, please let me know! I can edit them.)

novel jungle
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they show right for me

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which means they will be correct for everyone else as well

violet lynx
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hammertime works fine ^^

novel jungle
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yup, as long as you put in the correct time from the start πŸ™‚

novel jungle
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if it works correctly on the server, it should be
3 pm saturday to 3am sunday (server time)
3 pm sunday to 3am monday (server time)

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as i assume it won't count friday as weekend

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gives Mai cookies

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πŸͺ πŸͺ πŸͺ πŸͺ πŸͺ πŸͺ

still hollow
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Gotta mention for @novel jungle that there seems to be some lagging on the server. Don't know if it's just temporary, but many people seem to have gotten it

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Also not meant to be "hurry up and do something", it's not extremely bad, just worthy of information

novel jungle
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most likely whenever steam "auto updates" games

still hollow
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As in, it's happening on your end because of extra network traffic?

novel jungle
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or it may be the people upstairs downloading something xD

ivory halo
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Honestly seems to have fixed itself for me

still hollow
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Would make sense that it was something like that

novel jungle
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not my internet essentially, even though i do pay for half of it.

still hollow
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Not that those of us playing on the server should complain too much XD

novel jungle
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they had 45/45 when i moved in, i pay for the upgrade to 100/100, which later were upgraded to 150/150 by the ISP

snow knot
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Is there a list with the server rules?

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mostly so i can send it to my friend with who im going to be playing with

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dont want to unknowingly break the rules

still hollow
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I don't think there's any explicit server rules (beyond the ruleset the game runs under). But I guess "Be dapper to each other" could suffice?

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If it's important to get an answer soon-ish I think you could pink/ask Leafein

novel jungle
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Leaf or Mai

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they are essentially the server managers

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i just host it

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but when no rules has been defined, the usual Dapperlings rule is "Don't be a dick"

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essentially "Be Dapper"

hot rune
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Rule 1: If you kill someone, give them a grace period afterwards. If you see them again shortly, let them be. Unless of course they are out for revenge. Then all's fair play.
Rule 2: Alongside the first rule, unless there are certain reasonable conditions, don't just go out of your way to hunt someone specifically over and over again. 
Rule 3: If there is a community event going on, unless otherwise specified, don't kill others for the time being. It's not fun for anyone to miss out on a community event like that. 
Rule 4: Just don't be a dick.
novel jungle
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as you can see, most of those rules really only applies during active PVP at weekends

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@snow knot

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Mai's message should answer your question πŸ™‚

hot rune
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Rule 0: Just be dapper dprDERP dprHEART

novel jungle
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Be a Dapperling, DESTROY THE TREES!

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😝

violet lynx
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Don't be a dick is a good catch-em-all rule.

wooden chasm
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So, how many on the server are interested in PvP? I think I'm just going to use that time to decorate my castle πŸ˜„ Do people have any plans for duels? Perhaps in the arena/colosseum?

violet lynx
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I will absolutely be up for duels

novel jungle
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πŸͺ•

wooden chasm
violet lynx
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Very high, but it's based on gear, so I can always make lower level gear to match ^^

novel jungle
violet lynx
wooden chasm
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My gear is total level 61.

desert maple
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Very high gear already? 🀯 Wow! I'm a professional faffer, takes me weeks to progress very high.

violet lynx
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I mean we did unlock dark silver last night πŸ˜…

novel jungle
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Leafeins mouse go brrrrrrr

steel obsidian
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Arena sounds like a good time

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People who are good can show of their skills and people who suck (me) can watch xD

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What im trying to say is I want you all to fight for my amusement

violet lynx
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See, I will be dragging you into the arena

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I will whisper promises in your ear

desert maple
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Hmm...I was about to say "Ooh, I'll come spectate," but now it sounds a liiiittle too dangerous. XD

still hollow
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Danger is not my middle name XD

novel jungle
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Leafein will whisper sweet nothings into your ear, and then stab you from behind

coral wadi
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any tips for a new player just joining the server now?

violet lynx
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new in the game in general?

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For new players my main suggestion is to not feel forced into a specific playstyle. The game has many weapons and abilities. A lot of enemies have different resistances, abilities and moves. Be willing to try out different kits to tackle what's ahead of you.

ivory halo
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Also dont' be afraid to ask for help

coral wadi
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fair thank you

still hollow
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The most fun can be had when people come together to do stuff. Mostly because it becomes a bit more chaos

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That was not meant to imply that you can't have the most fun alone

sullen crane
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i'm hoping we do some arena

still hollow
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I wonder if setting the HeightLimit on the castles up a bit (personally I think 6 would be fine, it's not like you get more tiles to use with that) would be possible. As I said before the server started I think it would make some more interesting castle designs possible.

sinful cove
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what, still not high enough?

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if so, take some trippy mushrooms instead πŸ˜›

still hollow
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Those 4 stories is a bit of a "hack" as well, as the game stops you from building higher than setting above the top ground on your plot. So the setting is at 3 now, with the maximum you can change it to in the GUI being 6. (And yes, you can change it to much higher in the config file XD )

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Personally I'm a fan of more height more better, but I can recognize that being somewhat moderate has its uses as well.

hot rune
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PSA: There is a bug with Gorecrusher. No current idea how/why but he just vanished (not invis, but went away) mid-combat.
EDIT: It has to do with his patrol path.

sinful cove
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goreswinger you mean, or is there another that is called gorecrusher?

hot rune
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Gorecrusher the V Blood

sinful cove
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this one?
(if there isn't another, it turns out we both memorised its name wrong)

hot rune
sinful cove
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ah, so there is another one

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dang you up to level 83 already

novel jungle
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Fear the Mai, as she has powers and prowess

sinful cove
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yeah, evidently

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much 'fraid

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also, lentril, i've managed to visit your base, looking good that bridge

ivory halo
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I'm slightly sad I can't hop on for a few days

still hollow
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Trying to keep two bases is a lot of work. But I ended up figuring that it was a bit useful to have a FOB that was more than just a place to stash stuff until I could move them in larger quantities, so I do have a base in Dunley that's more developed than the Silverlight Hills one (even though I'm planning on making the Silverlight castle just the prettiest castle. But that requires some options that get unlocked with involuntary blood donations

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The Dunley base has a chest with some T1 books that are free to grab, in a chest called something like "free stuff"

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I still want taller castles, Zangiry ;P

novel jungle
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"Free Stuff Here, now get your shit and get out"

still hollow
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I figured the books are kinda more useful being given out to people that need them than fed to The Devourer

novel jungle
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i'm just hosting it, the server essentially belongs to Leafein and Mai

still hollow
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BTW, how should one properly thank you for hosting it?

novel jungle
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it doesn't cost me anything to do so, other than electricity, which would be used anyways xD

still hollow
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In keeping with the theme of the game; donating blood?

novel jungle
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"Pay it Forward" πŸ˜„

still hollow
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BTW, seems like the Haunted Nights Castle Pack is available for free for everyone to add to their game if you want some "halloween themed" castle stuff. Get yours while supplies last ;P

abstract bramble
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I should bring a bunch of the tier 2 gems to the station...

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our jewel box is constantly full πŸ˜…

hexed ether
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fun discovery tonight - apparently pvp is profanity!

flat charm
flat charm
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cool

granite oxide
# hot rune ||Defeat Dracula||

Poor ||Dracula|| :( You get a tiny bit genocidal because your wife gets burned alive/tricked into unaliving herself, and the world never lets you hear the end of it T_T

novel jungle
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be at least we have ||Count Aavacula|| to take his place

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😁

abstract bramble
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Until we all wait for the weekend and hide in the castle in disguises to take over >:]

still hollow
flat charm
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How do I get grass tiles, or grow tiles. Won't let me place in unowned land, and the foundation ruins the grass

still hollow
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Grass tiles are given by Polora, IIRC

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Don't remember if you can use the "no tile" tile on the ground

flat charm
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I've been avoiding her. her owls are annoying

still hollow
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I thought she summoned butterflies

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But yeah, I found her annoying to fight in EA. Didn't find her as annoying to fight when I did it on this server.

timber scarab
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You can always send out at call in game to see if others are willing to help

hot rune
still hollow
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I think you're missing the point. The point is the verticality

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We already have the same limit of amount of tiles we can use

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Nobody would really get more space by allowing more levels, because that's restricted by the tiles limits.

hot rune
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My vote is no, but I'm willing to be swayed. Shall we vote?

still hollow
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I just really can't see any compelling reason not to allow more creative freedom with it. If you have any reasons why you don't think people should be able to build up to 6 stories tall I'm all for hearing them.

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And the reasons I used the number 6 is because that's what is the limit in the GUI from what I remember

hot rune
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My current googling leads me to believe it will corrupt the save completely.

still hollow
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Really? Why would the developers allow people to select 6 levels in the GUI if it would corrupt the save?
I also had a private server where I had 10 levels possible on my castles before and that didn't corrupt (although absence of evidence is not evidence of absence)

hot rune
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It is quite possible they fixed the issue since it looks like it was 8 to 9 months ago for the issues I see being posted πŸ™‚

still hollow
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If it's like one of those Steam topics I'm looking at I assume it was because they made an error when editing the JSON (if you miss a comma the save will be "corrupted", but by fixing the JSON it works again).
But it is an important thing to avoid corrupting the multiplayer server, of course.

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Thank you for at least looking at it.

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It's not something that should be rushed in any case, although I personally would very much love it if we were able to build a bit taller for some towers and such. I've got plans that should work with "just" 3 height levels, but I could do some more interesting designs with slightly more verticality. While I would hope for the possibility of going up to 6 levels I would be happy with just a level or two more as well. I haven't gotten the impression that many others feel strongly about it either way, although I hope they could find some more fun designs with it as well.

hot rune
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Yeah, I can see some creative ways to use extra height don't get me wrong, I just want to make sure we don't cause issues πŸ˜„

still hollow
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Oh, absolutely. Server stability is paramount

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Sorry if I'm making a bit more work for you and Leafein

hot rune
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It's not a lot of work to change from what I can see at least πŸ˜„

still hollow
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As always, though I do assume you and Leafein know this, make a backup before doing anything risky XD

hot rune
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That part afaik would be Zang's duty ^^

still hollow
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Yup. And if it ends up not being worth trying because of something then that is what it is. But I couldn't get more height if I didn't at least ask, right?

hot rune
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Makes sense to me

violet lynx
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Sorry, been busy ^^ as Mai said, I did also research a bit on that. I have found 3 posts of people having issues in the past on servers where they changed castle height, but they were all close to when they introduced the extra floors, so not really reliable. With that in mind, with an expansion as big as a 1.0 release, old bugs tend to resurface. I am not the biggest fan of changing such settings post-world creation to avoid issues. I have burned myself multiple times in the past by doing so, thus I am reluctant. I might talk to Zan to test at some point, though our free time doesn't align very much πŸ˜…

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Also, height is up to 4 by default. It becomes 3 because you are building on an elavated platform πŸ™‚

violet lynx
visual totem
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I would love to not have several days rollback if it is avoidable.

novel jungle
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@violet lynxi am free for the most part always, except when i sleep xD

still hollow
# violet lynx Also, height is up to 4 by default. It becomes 3 because you are building on an ...

Nope, height of 3 is default. You get 4 because of the elevated platform. See https://blog.stunlock.com/update-1-secrets-of-gloomrot-patch-notes/ as well as the config file (and GUI):

     "Level1": {
       "FloorLimit": 50,
       "ServantLimit": 4,
       "BuildLimits": 2,
       "HeightLimit": 3
     },```

Now, if you could be so kind as to send me those posts which had those problems (because I think it was just that they messed up changing the JSON) I would greatly appreciate it. Though I suspect you, like I probably would, have closed them. The reason I want to see where you found someone having problems with it is because I couldn't really find much to corroborate changing the HeightLimit being the cause of corrupted saves. More like user error with JSON. See <https://steamcommunity.com/app/1604030/discussions/0/3832045251550592858/> for an example where Previl said it corrupted, but it worked perfectly for Lanwis. Which probably is JSON formatting error.

I'd also like to point out that I asked to get the height limits increased well before the server started up #1229277589500330116 message
I have also run a personal server with the height limit set to 8 that had no problems after time at all (which is 2 more than what is max in the GUI) with me building a lot of castles everywhere. Though as I said in #1229277589500330116 message absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. But I can't actually find anything that says changing the HeightLimit (to what's in the range available through the GUI from the developers) itself has corrupted a server.

That said, I can understand the unwillingness to change the setting because of putting server stability first.
hot rune
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We can do a poll πŸ™‚

hot rune
still hollow
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I still say that I haven't seen any evidence for changing the setting causing any instability or corrupting saves (only user error in changing JSON), and allowing more levels does not mean people have to use those levels. So allowing more levels seem to only allow more options for design, not gameplay balance. Basically no downsides and the upside of more creative freedom. Especially since there's no raid or whatever it's called on the dapperling server.

The height limit can be changed through the GUI as far as I know, which means there shouldn't be any user error with the JSON leading to "corrupted" save.

EDIT: If anyone actually have any arguments against allowing more floors I think they should be given so I and others can get more understanding for why people don't want to allow people more options.

EDIT2: Now that I've gotten time to think about the poll options it's also not clear how many don't have strong feelings one way or another, how many are just anxious about potential "corruption" (which I've seen no evidence for being anything but user error in editing JSON files), and how many just think that nobody should be able to build taller than 3 levels from the upper plateau of the castle plots.

The server has already had parts of it edited, and we've seen no evidence of that having affected the stability (the change was from always PvP to the time based rules). If changing 1 thing between the options the developers make available (through the GUI, to be clear) didn't do damage I can see no reason why changing something else to one of the options the developers make available would do so.

still hollow
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I've got a service announcement. Apparently container names don't show up for other players (clan members probably do see them, though), so we can't use that to help indicate to other people if some container has free stuff (other than the community chest project by Demi (and apparently my thinking that it would be possible to make it a bit more easily searchable by naming the chests there doesn't work...))

EDIT: the fact that they don't show up for other vampires is probably for some PvP balance with raiding or such. If you could read what other people called their containers you could more easily get just the "good stuff" without taking the time to look through each container.

hexed ether
# hot rune

[shruggy emote in place of No Strong Feelings]

novel jungle
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i will not be available tomorrow, on thursday and on friday.

sinful cove
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someone is present, and on a hunt...

hot rune
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@novel jungle can we get a server restart sometime please? πŸ™‚

novel jungle
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Done

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now i'm going back to sleep.

violet lynx
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I would like to let you all know, that I am now the apex vampire.

still hollow
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Conga-tulations

abstract bramble
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nice

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we still have Adam to fight before the big vamp xD

flat charm
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I see a patch for V rising, is it safe to download?

novel jungle
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if it isn't i'll just shutdown the server, update and restart it πŸ™‚

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but so far the patches has been client side only

abstract bramble
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yea, we got a hotfix for potential server crash, going off the patchlog

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as well as a number of really nice qol changes

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such as seeing which books you already have in the merchant, and the ability to trade prisoners :D

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guessing that fix at least will need a server update

novel jungle
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i'll just do a quck restart/update of server then now, before i have to leave.

abstract bramble
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droid thanks

still hollow
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Thank you so much for dealing with the server stuff

novel jungle
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it is downloading an update

still hollow
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"this will brick the server" ;P

novel jungle
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and done

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server back up

abstract bramble
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Shouldn't. The game has been notoriously unstable about changing settings after the fact, but good about updates πŸ˜„

desert maple
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Zangiry is our MVT dprTEA dprHEART Thank you!

ivory halo
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I have access to my computer again, so now to hope my Castle isn't too badly off

ivory halo
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I'm honeslty surprised my horse was still alive

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everything else was fine

sinful cove
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server appears to be having som issues

visual totem
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Yeah, it's very yeet happy

wooden chasm
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Too bad Zangiry is not available, I assume.

sinful cove
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i even got killed due to the issues

wooden chasm
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And I can't get back in πŸ˜„

sinful cove
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well, that is a load of mutant grease lost...

visual totem
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Yeah, I've been kicked off three times in a row now

still hollow
sinful cove
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would leafein be able to do something about it?

visual totem
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I'm not sure. I suspect not, but it can't hurt asking

violet lynx
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Nope

sinful cove
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worth an ask

visual totem
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We summoned him!

violet lynx
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Fiarly certain there's no admin command that interacts with the server ^^

sinful cove
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so i can get in, but not do anything

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I'm getting the press x to respawn each time though so i guess i am not going to lose anything

wooden chasm
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Weeell, I guess this means a break from V Rising then.

visual totem
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Looks like it fixed itself?

wooden chasm
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I got in, but got disconnected immediately again.

novel jungle
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i know why, weirdly enough this computer is fine

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apparently my server connected itself to my phone as a "tether" even though it's wired

visual totem
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lol

wooden chasm
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It's alive!

visual totem
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Well, that explains things

still hollow
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Zangiry being summoned by the anguished screams of dapperlings

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I'm hitting connection problems now, anyone else having that?

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"Error: connection timed out"

rapid mantle
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That's definitely a strange way for it to glitch!

steel obsidian
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Is the server still down?

visual totem
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Seems like it

novel jungle
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i shut it down until i could fix the internet issue

steel obsidian
visual totem
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Ah, fair

novel jungle
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i will literally have to reboot the main server

steel obsidian
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Wow i didn't think it would be that big of a deal

novel jungle
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somehow the network went into a feedback loop

steel obsidian
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Did you divide by 0 again?

novel jungle
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and apparently my phone were the cause

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server needed a restart anyways due to windows update, so i guess it's okay? xD

still hollow
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I hope I won't lose my death loot...

sinful cove
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same, but i am still in my "revive me" moment

steel obsidian
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Doesn't the server pause if its down?

novel jungle
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if you did, leaf or mai can fix that,
and the moment people mentioned here that server got weird i shut it down

still hollow
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I got so far as to actually respawn, got my loot from the frog boss, then died on my way back to safety

visual totem
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Thanks for looking out for us, Zang!

steel obsidian
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Zang the legend

wooden chasm
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Zang does some fast support!

steel obsidian
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Khay what is your vampire named`?

still hollow
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Just for information request, is it like 10 minutes until server is up, 1 hour, 10 hours, 24 hours or such?

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"Llentril"

steel obsidian
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2 years

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minimum

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Ah then we've talked a bit in game without me knowing it

still hollow
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I hadn't gotten the memo that most people just were going to use their Discord username, not go for some "vampire-ish" names

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Well, who have I been talking to?!?!?! XD

steel obsidian
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Yeah I felt mine wouldn't really work

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Celeste

sinful cove
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im jelmergu everywhere

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"branding"

steel obsidian
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lol

still hollow
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Oh, I thought you were Chiz

wooden chasm
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Everywhere all at once

still hollow
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;P

steel obsidian
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Chiz?

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Cit?

sinful cove
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plot twist, I am actually carnivale

wooden chasm
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Damn!

steel obsidian
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And im aavak

still hollow
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Both Cit and Chiz were on the server

sinful cove
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(just to clarify, I'm not carnivale obviously, I'm not that good :P)

wooden chasm
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This is my second time playing V Rising πŸ˜›

steel obsidian
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Jelmer you're level 60 ish right?

still hollow
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Wasn't it something like Zangiry supposedly being unavailable today? And yet he goes above and beyond

steel obsidian
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Nothing new tbh

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Zang is pog incarnate

sinful cove
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was looking at the eco thread

steel obsidian
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For your level? KEKW

sinful cove
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yeah, the amount of good eco restaurant names * 35 is my level, just had to check that

still hollow
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I think I've gotten to somewhere around 67 GS

still hollow
steel obsidian
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I got to 81 cause the game hates me

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The addiction strikes hard and fast doesn't it

still hollow
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Is it really addiction if it doesn't?

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Hmmm, I wonder if the servant timers will run while a dedicated server is offline now as well. They made it so they used the system clock for "personal" games, and that might also affect dedicated servers...

novel jungle
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Whooops, adhd, got distracted, I'm now at the store buying cat food xD

still hollow
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No worries, was just wondering about if I should plan to do other things or if the server would be up again soon-ish

novel jungle
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I'll be home in about 10-15 min, and that's if i walk slow xD

sinful cove
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don't go running off your legs

still hollow
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And you're assuming you'll start the server about then, I take it XD

rapid mantle
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Right after 3 more distractions.

still hollow
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"Oh, a squirrel"

sinful cove
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"did i leave the water running"

still hollow
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"Did I feed the plants and water the dog?"

sinful cove
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"where did i even leave the dog?"

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"as for that matter, did i even have a dog"

still hollow
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More game related; I'm pretty happy with how I've managed to set up my Dunley castle for now. A two story throne room with a large outside area in some shade that will get some prettyfication "soon" beyond the "free stuff" courtyard I've already made.

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And most of it visitor accessible

novel jungle
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server back up

sinful cove
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zangiry appearently didn't encounter a squirrel

novel jungle
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i encountered two cats though

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so i refilled their food and booted the server xD

still hollow
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Cats more importanter

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Thank you so much, Zangiry

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Hmmm, I seem to have problems connecting to the server. Is it still connected through your phone? XD

sinful cove
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same here

wooden chasm
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I can't connect

rapid mantle
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Probably still booting and setting.

novel jungle
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OH, it were never my phone....

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Pi-Hole crashed

wooden chasm
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πŸ˜›

still hollow
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And I seem to be in. Zangiry MVV (Most Valuable Vampire)

novel jungle
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NOW, it should work xD

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pi hole crashed -> DNS route blocked -> internet go poof

wooden chasm
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Working, got in!

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Thanks, Zang!

still hollow
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Indeed it does.

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And I got my stuff back! :D

novel jungle
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body just outside home?

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iirc someone said something about that a while back.

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tomorrow i'll have 3 pi's

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Pi Zero W
Pi 4B 4 GB
and lastly a Pi 5B 8 GB

visual totem
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Nice

novel jungle
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Current default time zone: 'Europe/Oslo'
Local time is now: Wed May 15 21:42:41 CEST 2024.
Universal Time is now: Wed May 15 19:42:41 UTC 2024.

still hollow
novel jungle
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now that's just wrong, that poor pupper will forever suffer with my name xD

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ehm, horse xD

still hollow
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"This is not the greatest horse in the world, this is just a tribute"

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^ was a bit too long to name it

novel jungle
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Quote: Jack Black

still hollow
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Exactly

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But I can change the name later. Maybe name it "Mai did it" or something like that

hot rune
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D;

novel jungle
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i'm still convinced his parents were gamblers

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Jack Black -> Black Jack -> Blackjack

still hollow
novel jungle
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"Just do it!" -> "Mai just did!"

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oh and btw, when i got home from the store, the sun were still up....

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so sun still up at 9:20 pm

still hollow
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Would've been worse if I called the horse just "Zangiry"

novel jungle
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eh, i've been a Rat twice in Thea/Thea 2

still hollow
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I mostly meant the following:

desert maple
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I...uh...I don't know if mounting Zang's glory is much less risquΓ©.

novel jungle
still hollow
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Uh... no comment

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Got a better picture, IMO:

sullen crane
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Emperor Glitterhoof returns, i guess

desert maple
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Sooo...I overextended myself with my gaming commitments (Shocker!), so I think I need to drop this one.
I've dismantled pretty much everything and shoved it and my gear (for anyone who's still in the lower levels) into six (or seven?) boxes by my castle heart. I assume anyone can open them, so I figured I'd let folks know here so anyone can grab what they want, and then I'll take the leftovers to the community grab boxes near the entrance.
My place is just east of the Bandit Copper Mine in Farbane. I'll remove the heart in a few hours (edit: Tomorrow actually - forgot before I kicked my computer off and headed to bed!) so the plot is freed up.
Have so much fun with the rest of the server!

novel jungle
wooden chasm
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The server seems to be down again, can't connect.

sinful cove
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@novel jungle pinging you to tell you that the server is down, hoping I am not waking you up from slumber. If so, go back to sleep for a bit

wooden chasm
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I think Zangiry should let his pets maintain the server when he's sleeping.

sinful cove
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maybe he does, which is why it went wrong

novel jungle
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server shows as running on my end, and my internet is working

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also, i don't have pets.
they belong to my brother/landlord xD

silver crypt
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i was on it earlier when others couldn't connect but i was the only one online, after i left i couldn't get back on

novel jungle
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okay, i'll try and restart it

flat charm
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lol Log in to the server is shutting down

novel jungle
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it is back up now xD

flat charm
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thank you

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connecting (2/5)

novel jungle
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weird

flat charm
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failed

novel jungle
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my internet is working fine both ways

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so then i have no idea

flat charm
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I re-entered IP and it connected

novel jungle
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dns caching issue maybe?
or a hickup between Norway and Europe/US?

silver crypt
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yeah, re-entering IP worked here too

flat charm
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i think more likely the game confused itself

still hollow
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I got the same problem and same solution. Probably something to do with their hotfix #3

flat charm
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is anything recovered from salvaging spell gems?

still hollow
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I think you get gems of the corresponding tier

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You get something at least

abstract bramble
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yea, gem dust and a gem of the tier

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no stygian shards, unfortunately, for the high tiers

still hollow
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I found two suggestions on the suggestions site that I agree with and think should have more support. If you agree with them too I think it would be great if you clicked the button to make number go up:
https://feedback.playvrising.com/suggestions/553489/use-any-symbols-and-letters-in-any-languages
https://feedback.playvrising.com/suggestions/552963/allow-all-characters-in-chest-names

There's also a suggestion for those already known technology books to show us that when we have them in our inventory/find them in chests: https://feedback.playvrising.com/suggestions/553453/already-unlocked-tag-for-unlocked-recipes

desert maple
still hollow
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I may have planted a few Blood Rose

sinful cove
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what do you need that many pollen for?

still hollow
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But yeah, it's giving me more than I need, so people are free to come have a spin

violet lynx
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Once you start making shadow weave, you will be happy to have all that pollen XD

still hollow
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That's good to know. I'm making a massive garden, really. Eventually

flat charm
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I may come by for more tomorrow. I need thread. I have enough blood rose for potions.

abstract bramble
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Yea, we really need to remodel our garden as well, soon

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right now, we have sort of an indoor thing going on, and it's not really ideal, for the growing space

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A shame you get the shade-casting gazebo thingies so late

still hollow
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You know you can build sort of a "roof" over it, right?

abstract bramble
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yes, but the whole point is that that doesn't look right :D

still hollow
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A roof at the third level? I'm just spitballing

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If you want to see how it could look you can take a look at my Dunley castle

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Though that has it only on the second level up for the area further in from the free stuff courtyard

flat charm
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You can use a mist machine too, only turn it on when needed

abstract bramble
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eh, I refuse to use mist braziers leaCheese

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Giant waste of bones

flat charm
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They use very few if you only turn them on when working.

still hollow
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I've got a mist brassiere ||Yes, it intentional|| in my free stuff courtyard because I seem to have more than enough bones.

sullen crane
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this is citatus refusing to acknowledge that bones are not a limited rescource. If i hadn't converted mine into scourge stones i'd be buried in them

still hollow
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Bones are renewable resources XD

granite oxide
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Indeed. Just capture a vampire in a gibbet, make sure they can't move around too much but with their limbs hanging free and fit them with a face mask with a funnel. Healthy humans can donate a litre of blood every so often, not much of a loss to a single human, but with their numbers advantage it would be like water torture to the vampire, forced to guzzle it down, fueling their inhuman regeneration as the humans saw off limbs to harvest an unending supply of bones.

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Should probably get some tinkers in on this, they might be able to figure out a way to generate electricity from the metabolic process going on in the vampire. With enough research could probably power a city from one as long as you keep drowning it in blood.

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Wouldn't be the first apex predator humanity turned into a resource; probably won't be the last, either, once those crafty humans conquer new worlds using Vampire-reactor powered space ships.

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I can foresee nothing going wrong with this plan. dprCULT

abstract bramble
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ah, yes, the vampire-powered piston engine

still hollow
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That got a bit more gruesome than I was anticipating...

still hollow
novel jungle
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who let Dark Aavak out of his cage?

still hollow
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It's important to give your pets exercise ;P

flat charm
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Just some research, Nuns keep their cross hat and brown robes when made servants

abstract bramble
#

yea, every unit keeps their outfits, they just get a different hair and skin colour ^_^

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Except for Draculin units, they all just stay identical to before

gritty gorge
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Gondor calls for aid! Anyone want to help us with dracula? We are struggling a lot. dprHEART

rapid mantle
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Wish I could. but I'm still at the start of act 3.

crude wasp
#

Ah, act 3. Domina is... a character πŸ˜‚

still hollow
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NSFW fight, really

crude wasp
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I love it though

sullen crane
#

drac is certainly hard

steel obsidian
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Has anyone?

sullen crane
#

yea- i think leafy, the rest of our clan,... and possibly a few others i couldn't be sure

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he's HECKING hard

violet lynx
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He is on a league of his own.

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Fighting him solo though is the best option in my opinion. When you are alone, his attacks do not apply blood curse.

gritty gorge
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I feel like quitting because of him. πŸ™ƒ

still hollow
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Have you tried "gitting gud"? ;P

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Though I guess the point of the last boss would be to be quite hard

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CohhCarnage said that failing to beat a boss is just dopamine stockpiling (or something like that) so when you finally beat it you get that big hit. I think he said it better than I describe it here.

rapid mantle
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I need to remember to join with a team at somepoint.

abstract bramble
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just getting the legendaries so that when my entire team isn't so busy anymore, we can wipe up adam and then do the big man himself

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once we're done, we may be able to help. Though that will be a while, probably

still hollow
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Run 10-vampire battle against Dracula

flat charm
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I wondered how the scaling works, would 9 be 3x harder than 3?

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but at some point, you just wouldn't be able to target the mob except with AEs. many ranged attacks would be blocked.

crude wasp
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From what I've seen setting up my own brutal server:

  • Adding a second person to a boss fight doubles the bosses stats.
  • Adding a third person adds an extra 50% to their stats.
  • Adding a fourth person and any additional person after that adds an extra 25%.
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So beyond 2 people, a boss fight should get easier and easier, especially once you're at 4+ people.

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Note that that's the default scaling regardless of relaxed, normal or brutal difficulty btw

violet lynx
#

I mean, sure, easier by statistics, but does that matter when a single swing of his sword will be sending you to the ER? XD

crude wasp
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I dunno, but that's not what I'm answering, I was just addressing Silvermink's question about scaling :p

violet lynx
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I know ^^

crude wasp
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Also uh, idk if the scaling affects their damage

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It definitely affects health

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But the server settings are a bit ambiguous as to whether or not it scales their other stats

violet lynx
#

I do wonder if spawns work the same exact way. The more people present, the more spawns the bosses have. Wonder if the scaling is the same, and if it has a cap rooThink

crude wasp
#

That's a good question

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I remember when solo fighting that one boss in Act 2 who unlocks the study, I kicked her ass my first try, even on brutal.

Then, when another person wanted my help fighting her, we lose two times in a row. I felt like there were more of the little NPCs, or maybe they also inherited the extra health given to her by the player scaling, so they stayed on the field longer and therefore it felt like there were more throughout the fight. I'm not sure.

abstract bramble
#

bosses definitely spawn more ads with mors players, yea

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not sure how the scaling works there, but I've seen them spawn more

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very easy to see with Maia, she spawns one ad per player in the early phases, so far as I can tell

still hollow
#

Now there's ads in my games as well?

flat charm
violet lynx
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Are you sure? I haven't noticed more than 3 health globes. Unless Mai and Cow are that quick at eating them.

sinful cove
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they are that quick at eating them up it seems then, because i've seen 6 when together

hot rune
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Nomnom

crude wasp
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Yes they drop more globes, one of my friends noticed that too

violet lynx
#

Freaking health roombas over there

crude wasp
#

πŸ˜‚

visual totem
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Poor Leafein not getting any delicious blood bobas

abstract bramble
#

I really should just stop looting scrolls... πŸ˜…

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Knowledge storage keeps getting full, and we're done with research

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if anyone needs 3000-odd scrolls, let me know πŸ˜…

sinful cove
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turn them into schematics πŸ˜›

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or are you also done with those?

still hollow
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Yes, they are. XD

abstract bramble
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we are quite done with research, yes xD

grizzled panther
abstract bramble
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They are, ping me again when you are online and I'll hop on πŸ˜„

grizzled panther
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will do thanks!

still hollow
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You know, you could have a "public" area of your castle where you put such things ;P

abstract bramble
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Could, but do not at this time :P

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Still need to revamp the garden

still hollow
#

Was that a pun?

abstract bramble
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no

still hollow
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Well, it was a great pun, even if you didn't intend it

sinful cove
#

that is what should take a vacation

still hollow
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Was fun taking down Styx with that terror re-enacting German planes over London...

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At least now I can look at my castle in full

violet lynx
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Congratulations!

sinful cove
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@wooden chasm did you really have to go this hard on building a pretty castle?

abstract bramble
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Yes. leaCheese

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Don't even need to wait for them to respond, the answer is always yes xD

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That is a really nice castle tho

still hollow
#

Way to flex
And here I thought I hadn't done too badly

wooden chasm
abstract bramble
#

that is a very large plot though, which is probably also a factor πŸ˜…

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some plots barely have space for such impressive castles

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still: good job :O

wooden chasm
# abstract bramble still: good job :O

Thanks. The plot actually has two upper platforms, which give it a slightly more interesting layout. Also, opened most of the doors if anyone wants to take a look inside, not everything is finished though.

flat charm
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Does impressive work in Eco too

sinful cove
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just does impressive work. Period

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have we seen carnivale in minecraft?

granite oxide
#

Feel free to share your castle designs, I'm sure everyone would enjoy looking at them if you have screenshots :)

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I'm always interested in seeing how people use the odd shapes the game gives us sometimes ^^

still hollow
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Yeah, a lot of people not playing on the server might enjoy the castle designs. Once we're "done" designing the castles.

wooden chasm
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Here be Castle. It was really fun building it, love the system. Quite a lot of decorations unfinished, but it's still a nice castle to live in πŸ™‚

visual totem
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Very red inner decor. I like it!

dusk palm
#

it seems the server still has people playing on it maybe ill try it out again i did enjoy playing previously

grizzled panther
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i know me and my friend are we only get a few hours a day to play due to work, doing the lvl 83 bosses and the t2 rifts now

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just got bat form, that is very fun

still hollow
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Bat form is great. I'm hoping to get back on tomorrow and fix up my castles, maybe try to take down Solarus or something

rapid mantle
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I'm close to 70. but kinda had set things aside for life.

grizzled panther
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i do think they need to rweak the perks of some forms, like spider form burrow, make the enemy not know your there is they pass by or you do it out of line of site, make rat actually do something as its kind of pointless from my opinion,

still hollow
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With the spider form burrow the enemies shouldn't know you're there unless you were already in combat when you burrowed as of right now.
Rat actually lets you get into at least one specific form, and it also is used to sneak into enemy castles in PvP servers. Or it could be used for a hide and seek contest on the dapperling server.

sinful cove
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rat form is also used to get through a gap in the silver mines

still hollow
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Apparently I wrote something erroneously, I did indeed mean to write "Rat actually lets you get into at least one specific room" (in the silver mines)

sinful cove
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ah, i thought you were meaning that, since that sentence didn't make much sense as it is

grizzled panther
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i did not know that about the rat

grizzled panther
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is tehre a major sun resistance potion?

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because we have a minor sun resistance flask but no major?

hot rune
grizzled panther
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think its a dev oversight?

hot rune
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I think we'll be getting more bosses for the "missing" potions, if that's what you're asking πŸ™‚

grizzled panther
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well i sent a bug report about it

grizzled panther
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the tech dressing table and folding walls, ... where does one find the folding walls part of the tech, we have unlocked it and cant find what it unlocked

hot rune
#

Decorative? πŸ€”

grizzled panther
#

yea

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just bugging me is all, tried looking through my build menu, cant find anything looking online wiki has nothing on it

abstract bramble
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should be decorative > furniture IIRC

grizzled panther
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TY

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for everyone wondering its a folding screen not a "wall" for getting changed behind

crude wasp
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It would be nice if we eventually got "sidegrades" to the existing cloaks that are more resistant to sun resistance, garlic, etc. at the cost of other resistances, similar to how they added new armor sets in 1.0 which focus on spell power, physical power, movement speed, etc.

sinful cove
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might be that it is to the side, that is where i found some thing after finding out that you could scroll sideways on the build menu

grizzled panther
#

whats the deal with adam?!? everytime i kill him he stands back up and he is very hard to kill

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happened 4 times gets about 40-45 % of his hp back and full room reset with all lightning turrets

abstract bramble
#

Welcome to phase 2

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Where a manageable fight goes into panic mode

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Because he just starts throwing all the bullshit at you

violet lynx
#

I mean, he did say he is only using a fraction of his power

grizzled panther
#

like a lightning vortex that covered 50% of the room?

violet lynx
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He didn't lie

grizzled panther
#

id ask for help but pvp is turned on and i dont know why, i dont wanna pvp i wanna pve

violet lynx
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Just aim better rooC

rapid mantle
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I think it swaps every 12 hours between those modes?

novel jungle
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#1229277589500330116 message

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magic time stamps that show it in your local time

abstract bramble
#

Found a second 100 Rogue I am willing to sell if anyone needs it - though fair warning, I'd like ~1500+ greater abyssal shards or boatloads of mutant grease for it πŸ˜…

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Or an equivalent in lesser shards, but the ratio to upgrade those is 9/1, which is... not great

sinful cove
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wouldn't mind one, got a load of shards and also a boatload of grease

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(at least, i consider it a boatload)

abstract bramble
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I do offer free delivery (because it is the only way to trade prisoners) leaCheese

sinful cove
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or at least i thought i had a boatload of grease

abstract bramble
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All went into pristine leather, I'm guessing? xD

sinful cove
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probably

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seeing that there was 77 pristine leather in my tannery, yes, yes it went there

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still have a bit over 1k of the stuff

abstract bramble
#

alas, 1k will not really get me very far πŸ˜…
But I will definitely trade for abyssal shards. Quantity and quality?

sinful cove
#

1600

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can do a combination if that aint enough

abstract bramble
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if those are Greater, than that's about what I was looking for ^_^

sinful cove
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1633 to be precise

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and yes greater

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my lessers all go into greater

abstract bramble
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Mine go into trees xD

sinful cove
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trees? as in you don't even pick them up anymore?

abstract bramble
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nono, blood treants

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drop many seeds, of any type

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great use for lesser shards if you want to have a large garden

sinful cove
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@abstract bramble that one, the one I'm pointing at

abstract bramble
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Delivery complete ^_^

sinful cove
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enjoy your payment

abstract bramble
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Will do πŸ˜„

sinful cove
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i am guessing that the payment has been used by now πŸ˜›

abstract bramble
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oh, yea, long since πŸ˜…

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you didn't accidentally kill the guy, did you? πŸ˜…

sinful cove
#

nope

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i mean, it happens to me a lot, but this one was already safely behind bars

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safely for him that is

sinful cove
#

connection issues, on my end or not?

novel jungle
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i think it was my end, as i got disconnected from discord for a moment

sinful cove
#

alright

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ill keep you posted if it continues for a while

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seems stable now

novel jungle
#

most likely my brother restarted the internet box because internet were being slow,
it happens sometimes, and the quick fix is to restart the fiber box.

ivory halo
#

I sadly have to bow out of hte server now, anyones free to grab my stuff tho, dunno if i should kill off my servants tho fo rpeople to be able to grab my stuff

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My base is just to the left of the Dunley farmlands merchants

rapid mantle
#

Anyone still going at it in V?

timber scarab
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playing right now

violet lynx
#

Exams have devoured my time

visual totem
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Devour the exams!

violet lynx
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One more week and then I am free ^^

sinful cove
#

still online occasionally, most often in the evening

visual totem
#

I have Adam and Drac left, but then I have officially beaten the game

sinful cove
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Simon, adam and dracula here

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btw, how did some of you guys get void to spawn three additional smaller voids? some spell jewels i am assuming, even though i've not encountered any that did it

hot rune
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Spell jewels yeah, I think only the highest tier might have it though

sinful cove
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then a lot of you guys got really lucky with t4 jewels early on, since i've seen tripple void when we were fighting polara

visual totem
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Well, there are plenty of jewels in the donation station. I suspect some people might've grabbed some there

abstract bramble
#

The split can be on pretty much any jewel for void

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it's random what you get every time

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I have one for faster cooldown, split, AOE puddle and it sets things with chaos burn on fire to heal me

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very useful

visual totem
#

The heal thing is absolutely a godsend

crude wasp
#

I saw a similar effect on gems for chaos volley, where if you hit an enemy that's ignited it heals you over time. It made chaos volley a staple in my arsenal on Brutal.

visual totem
#

That's exactly the same situation I found myself in

sinful cove
#

well, that is the end of the belmont line again... dang that was a hard fight

abstract bramble
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He scales up to your level, if you are stronger leaCheese

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good job!

sinful cove
abstract bramble
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Not really, no - but if you're over his base level, he will always scale up to yours πŸ˜„

sinful cove
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well, good to know that by spending those 1500 greater shards to get an ancient shard, i made the fight just that bit more dificult...

abstract bramble
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Honestly? Don't think he really gets more difficult... He just also doesn't get easier if you outgear him

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and the bonus stats on the relics do help πŸ˜…

sinful cove
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it wasn't a relic though

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went to the vampire merchant to get some slashers

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yes, i know, that isnt the best place to get good stuff,

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also, I don't know who Saturnranko is in this channel, but I might have accidentally lured Simon into your decaying castle and he may have destroyed some roofs...

abstract bramble
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yea, those are relics

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The shattered relics you restore using an upgraded weapon of that tier? :D

sinful cove
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nah both require the same base sanguine weapons and 4 onyx tears

abstract bramble
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Yea, that is a relic πŸ˜…

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They come in three rarities

sinful cove
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three?

abstract bramble
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the blue ones use merciless iron

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and then purple is the sanguine tier

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and yellow is legendaries, they always have the same stat lines and abilities

sinful cove
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aah, blue, purple and orange

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got all colors in my weapon storage

sinful cove
#

hows the download going Zangiry?

sinful cove
#

are there still people playing? been throwing myself at solarus for an hour about now, would not mind having someone else help

visual totem
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I probably won't have much time to play until the weekend, but I'm down for helping out.

rapid mantle
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Just getting back. Might jump in soon.

silver crypt
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I mostly hop on and do some decorating around my base lately, also changed location to just above Dunley merchants. Got 2 spots near each other so I can have a garden/cemetery in one of them. Sometimes I hit a point in games where I really focus on the base more than the progression.

sinful cove
wooden chasm
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Is there any interest for a new server once Invaders of Oakveil releases 28th of this month?

violet lynx
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Good question. I might be personally

visual totem
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I'm still waiting for that hardcore server

granite oxide
#

Might be something for us to do after we are done with VS?

visual totem
#

A V Rising server that's only up during stream? Could be interesting πŸ€”

abstract bramble
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could be... Though processing/servant mission times would probably have to be adjusted, as those kinda expect you to process while offline

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unless they do count the time when the server is offline?

ivory halo
#

Isn't that how they do it for singleplayer?

visual totem
#

It could be possible to leave the server online and just change the password so nobody can log in

visual totem
hot rune
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Very exciting πŸ˜„

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A new setting is being introduced to V Rising, allowing you to restrict the number of owned castle territories on a per-clan basis instead of a per-vampire basis.
Love it ❀️

novel jungle
#

wasn't that a feature before?

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or were that just an unwritten rule we set for the server?

hot rune
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It wasn't an official feature, no.

novel jungle
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i still have v-rising dedicated installed on my server, and i keep it updated xD

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since last run

novel jungle
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oh and btw @hot rune i actually own V-Rising now. #BlameRhadamant

sinful cove
#

I would be open for another V-Rising run. Maybe hold off on it until a couple of weeks after the VS run ends

wooden chasm
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Yeah, sounds like a good idea to give folks a bit of time to recover from VS before starting their blood sucking career.

novel jungle
#

^

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only times it works with multiple servers is when the games are vastly different,
thus a different playing crowd

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like hosting Minecraft as well as say OpenTTD

hot rune
#

ECO and Minecraft and V Rising servers all at once πŸ˜„

visual totem
#

F

novel jungle
sinful cove
#

that sounds like a recipe for private servers XD

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as in, a server with just one active player

rapid mantle
#

Gonna look forward to when this is in action!

wooden chasm
#

Are people still be interested in a new V Rising server?

We could set it up a couple of weeks or so after ECO server finishes, perhaps late November or early December?

crude wasp
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I ran a V Rising server on my dedicated server not too long ago. If people wanted one, it would be fairly easy for me to boot one up if nobody else can.

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Me personally though, not much interested in playing.

novel jungle
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i ran the last dapper one (i think), and could as well.

ivory halo
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Id be interested at a later date for another server, Maybe in the new year?

violet lynx
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depends, are we gonna have PvP, or is it going to be an other boss rush?

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because I love V Rising, but I have done the PvE aspect so many times now XD

timber scarab
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I likely won't be join-in on this round but I hope everyone has fun

crude wasp
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That way I can rest easy any time of the week (including my precious weekends) knowing I won't lose my shit overnight to someone from a different timezone, and I can get my fix of combat beyond the PvE (especially if people don't want to play on Brutal, which is what I'm used to now.)

wooden chasm
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If I remember it right last time we had PvP on during specific hours over the weekends.

crude wasp
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I feel like restricting PvP itself to specific hours over specific days (like the weekends, which sometimes people might want to spend doing something IRL) isn't really enough PvP. :p Unless those specific hours are like a 12+ hour period, so that people from any timezone can maybe hop on during PvP hours to enjoy them (without setting aside their whole day.)

rancid pivot
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But, pvp is great in v rising, some minor gripes, but as a battlerite enjoyed, a pvp oriented v rising sounds amazing. Bonus points if its just character pvp and not as much base pvp.

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Though base pvp might just be good too, those just always seemed off and bad for me, think rust.

wooden chasm
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We could have PvP on during the weekends, either on Saturday or Sunday, perhaps even alternating the days. So, 24h at a time.

rancid pivot
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Is that a good idea though, doing it on the weekend only? Its not like V-rising is that long of a game, after the first pvp weekend everyone would have finished the game and probably just not play. Wouldn't pvp every day give a reason to keep coming back to it, not to just fight bosses?

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I think as annoying as it would be to have bosses be a contested resource, I think that also just makes it actually engaging, everyone wants that boss, we have to fight each other over it as much as the boss, otherwise its not even a pvp game. Might as well make it pve only and build arenas for controlled pvp if we're gonna have a very limited pvp time frame. Which, don't get me wrong. I'd be absolutely down for. I'll be porting battlerite maps to v rising castles...
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Making arenas for pvp in that game is fun after all :P

wooden chasm
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On the last server we had very limited pvp times since the vast majority of players didn't want any pvp. Trying to balance the needs of pve and pvp players on the same server is always a bit tricky.

Having dedicated arenas for pvp sounds good to me, but then again I'm not a pvp player.

rancid pivot
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Well, the server should lean heavily one way or the other. Balacing and flip flopping in between is prone to be a letdown for both camps.

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My vote is on pvp first, pve second. And again, none of that raiding base breaking stuff. It is NOT fun to come back after 3 days to your base ruined, because you didn't want to/didn't have time to get on a game.

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I'm for pvp, against griefing other players bases.

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I wonder, is it possible to make the game pve, but every time bloodmoon happens: pvp is on

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So when you're the 'strongest' and best time to go for bosses, you now have to contest other players

wooden chasm
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PvP on during bloodmoons would kinda add an interesting aspect to the game. If you're a pve player you go "Shit shit, gotta get home." and if not... "Where's the prey..."

rancid pivot
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Exactly, its recurring enough where even people who play an hour a day and want pvp will get it.

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But also: its 'rare' enough where if you don't want pvp, just don't go out one day

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Perhaps increase frequency from 1/19 days to 1/7

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And just do 7 days to die, where every 7th day its a rampage outside. But, again, safe in your base. Because its cringe to make it a rust like permanently.

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I'm reinstalling it just to see if there's a setting of "Pvp during blood moon"

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Because if its not, well, that plan goes out the window. xD

wooden chasm
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Yeah, I like that idea. Let's hope it's possible πŸ˜„

rancid pivot
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I mean, the game was developed by the same people who made battlerite, its basically begging to be an arena game.

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So much of your kit is just meant for pvp.

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Doesn't help that some of the weapons are moveset from their arena game battlerite

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and the bosses are inserts of characters from battlerite into v rising

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The amount of micro staggers/interrupts/stuns that bosses are just immune to is high in that game. xD

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No sadly :(

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Only always or time restricted.

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Looking through mods

violet lynx
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Here's the problem from my experience both from playing and organizing. Those who like PvP will want to have the freedom to do so whenever, be it arenas, hunting someone, stalking someone who is killing a boss for your time to strike etc etc. Those who don't like PvP will firstly try to limit it as much as possible, and then not play during the time-frame that PvP is enabled [example: take a small break during blood moon as per your current idea]. Meaning neither side is happy.

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Now if you manage to find a way to please both, I will be very interested in your idea πŸ˜„

rancid pivot
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Very true.

violet lynx
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But unfortunately, personally I am done with the pvE aspect of the game, other than defeating Dracula on Hard difficulty. So just PvE for me wouldn't be interesting.

rancid pivot
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Leaf, bully mai with me. Lets create our fight club

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She doesn't wanna pvp me, she doesn't like when i jump on her with my daggers :(

granite oxide
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Sounds like everyone who wants PvP should make a server just for them and enjoy unlimited PvP!

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How many of you are there? Like, 5 or 6 or so? Should be fun for a bit.

violet lynx
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Yeah, it's the conclusion I came up with last time too XD having the two groups coexist is so much effort and jumping through so many hoops to make it somehow work that it just isn't worth it

novel jungle
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let's just do PvL (Players versus Leafein)

violet lynx
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seems unfair for everyone else tbh

novel jungle
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ikr? xD

ivory halo
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Could do alternating servers? One session is with PVP (Session being however long its active as a server for) then a few months later its without PVP?

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But honestly, id be down to do a PVP Server whenever, so long as we create a couple of basic rules surrounding it

flat charm
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It’s the pvp mmo dev dilemma, cater to pvp and accept your niche standing, cater to bigger pve crowd, or try to squeeze in both and alienate both.

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Pve players don’t want to be lambs, and pvp wolves quickly tire of fighting other wolves. (In MMOs)

visual totem
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I'm in the full PvP or bust camp myself, both because I've done the PvE so many times now and because, in my experience, PvP servers foster better behaviour. Turns out people care much more about being on good terms with their next door neighbour when their next door neighbour can cave their skulls in.

still hollow
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🀨

granite oxide
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Make that 6 or 7, sounding more possible :D

sinful cove
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I am firmly in the no pvp camp, mostly because i am quite skilled at dying already and don't need others to help me in that