#Final Fantasy

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fleet thistle
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For talking about the whole series.

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I feel this one needs no description. X3

spice granite
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I mean... it kinda does; what are you actually saying? XD What is this topic meant for. All of FF, or a specific game? (The fact I need to ask, implies more description is needed :P)

fleet thistle
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The series in whole of course. :3p

rose pond
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fleet thistle
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If money was infinite, and if I had faith in my computer running it well, I would be playing XIV. Would definitely go through it as a Blue Mage.

rose pond
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no restriction on playtime

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hybrid pewter
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Joking aside, FFXIV is indeed, fortunately or not, a subscription-based MMO. So if your wallet cannot support it, then don't feel pressured.
That being said, the free trial is essentially endless, though limiting. It does contain the base game and I think 2 of the DLCs, which is well over 100 hours of story alone, let alone side content. So if anyone is looking for an MMO to play, it's not a bad option.

full crown
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Hundreds of hours of story content, and access to all classes in a realm reborn and the first two expansions

fleet thistle
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It's a shame that XVI is only on the PS5, I would've gotten it in a heartbeat had it also been on the PS4.

vital ingot
daring hull
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I think the PS4 would curl up in the corner and cry if you tried to run FFXVI on it. It's an amazing game, but really gives the PS5 a workout.

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There have been times when I was so overwhelmed by the action on screen that I had to remind myself that breathing is a good idea.

rugged pawn
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Blu mage best mage dprTROLL
Also, in case somebody hasn't said it yet, we play on the Light (Lich) datacenter ๐Ÿ˜„

vital ingot
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(Phylactery not included)

terse abyss
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But if I play 6, and then 10, does that count as 16? xD

fleet thistle
terse abyss
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So I can't just play 8 twice xD

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Also does The Last Remnant belong here?

fleet thistle
fleet thistle
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It's still hard to believe that next year will be the 30th anniversary for FF VI.

terse abyss
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I feel every year is a anniversary by now xD
We got 25 years of VII this year too

fleet thistle
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And some people still think it was 15 or so years ago. Which used to be correct.

terse abyss
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You mean it isn't 2010, and there isn't a new Alan Wake game out?

fleet thistle
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I wouldn't mind a side FF game where a party was all Moogles. I'd put a couple hundred hours into that. :3

terse abyss
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Question, if a non-magical creature casts a non-magical elemental attack, that still counts as 'physical' right?

rugged pawn
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Is there such a thing in ff? rooThink1

terse abyss
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say like a mech had a flamethrower, or a golem has a lava attack

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its elemental, but not magically created as such

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unless it is that all elemental is magical

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just trying to understand how FF games split magical and physical attacks

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they don't have a distinction between ranged and contact attacks, do they?

rugged pawn
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rooShrug1 What ff game?

terse abyss
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just the sorta general rules

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in like the mainline games

rugged pawn
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No clue xD

terse abyss
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I have this mech thing attacking me in Ever Crisis and its a spin around with flamethrowers deal
Not sure if I should go for physical or magical defence

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so if it changes anything then FF7

rugged pawn
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I'd guess physical defense would be for the mech hitting you with, idk, a giant flail, and magical for flamethrower ๐Ÿ™‚

terse abyss
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but its not magic per se

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what I need apparently is Shield materia

fleet thistle
rugged pawn
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That's... surprsing to me ๐Ÿ˜…

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I clearly don't have a knack for this, sorry

fleet thistle
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No worries.

terse abyss
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both Flare and Megaflare are non-elemental, right?
and ignores stuff like reflect as I found out in FF9

fleet thistle
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I.....think Flare also is. I can't quite remember.

terse abyss
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I remember the bad guy in 9 resorted to spamming Flare when I had reflect on all my party

fleet thistle
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Duly noted for whenever I do play IX again.

terse abyss
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its smart enough to know that using magic vs reflect would just damage itself

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I however am not smart enough to know it reflects healing magic too >.<

fleet thistle
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I think the only time I ever really used reflect was when fighting against Bahamut in IV.

terse abyss
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one of the extra skills you could learn ( I forget what they're called) but it let you have auto-reflect, and I thought that free magical immunity was a super cool idea clearly

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until the boss was like huh you're magic immune? let me just spam Flare then

fleet thistle
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Heh.....Much to my chagrin, I just remembered that I've never beaten Ozma in IX..

terse abyss
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I tried, but it has weird attack timings - like it will go whenever you make a move

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or well, just before your attack

fleet thistle
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I need to learn the right set-up in order to absorb some of those attacks.

terse abyss
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I had the setup cus I was following a guide, but couldn't get the excution right, for a boss that was pratically cheating xD

fleet thistle
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And if Ozma wasn't bad enough. Zodiark in XII infuriated me one day. I had him down to just a sliver of health, I could've farted on him to end it. But he decides to go NOPE, by pulling bullshit immunity frames, and casts a Darkja that knocks out the remainder of my party. I have not touched that game since that, and that was over a decade ago.

terse abyss
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Ever Crisis has more than a few enemies that are like 'you die now'
and I can't say its a case of F2P game, cus you don't lose stamina if you party wipe (but there is no revive materia, yet)

terse abyss
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So I was just looking at the weapons of Ever Crisis, and they all seem to have the FF7R style materia slots (but you can't actually slot materia into them), so I do wonder if any of them are going to appear in Rebirth in the same remade style they are in EC
Also Red XIII's weapons are collars rather than like combs and hairpins

fleet thistle
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Cassini marked out when she found out that Matt Mercer is going to voice Vincent.

terse abyss
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But isn't he in everything, like Steve Blum xD

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Still waiting for that Cid reveal (though that might not be till launch now)

fleet thistle
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Damn near. He's certainly making his rounds.

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Reprising Chrom in Fire Emblem Engage, Ganondorf in Tears of the Kingdom, Minsc in Baldur's Gate III, and now Vincent in Final Fantasy VII Rebirth

terse abyss
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those 445 acting credits though, only half as many as Steve though

fleet thistle
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Still quite the tenure under his belt.

terse abyss
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so funny story (maybe) they did a FFVII/FFIX crossover for Ever Crisis
and predictably Young Sepiroth gets Kuja's outfit and sword, which gives him the non-elemental flare style attack that Kuja gets in FFIX - the one I mentioned here recently

fleet thistle
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Nice.

terse abyss
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and you also get Cloud as Zidane, Aerith as Garnet, Tifa as Amarant, and one of the new stars, Lucia, as Vivi
tbh I'm not sure who would have Zack, Barret (maybe Steiner? Quina?) and Red XIII play as, though Cid would naturally take Freya's place

fleet thistle
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Yeah, Cid would definitely have Freya since they're both Dragoons.

terse abyss
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Wait a minute, in FF7R, what is Palmer doing in Wallmarket O.o

daring hull
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You don't want to know...

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I still have PTSD from looking through that keyhole.

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That, and Don Corneo's belly jiggle physics

terse abyss
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jiggle jiggle

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Palmer is outside trying to reschedule a meeting once you got dressed up, I got a screenie, but I'm my phone atm

daring hull
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Yeah, before you get dressed up, if you look in one of the side rooms through the keyhole, you see ||Palmer chasing one of the bee girls around with a net.||

terse abyss
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Ohhh yeah, I guess it slipped my mind as at that point you don't know who it is

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Either way, seems I got some new interactions this time round
(Andrea if you go back in, and Mirebelle if you did her quest)

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Though I may need to stop before I go all the way to Shinra Tower xD

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Right here

terse abyss
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I forget, what stat typically effects how much health a character will heal with curative spells?

rugged pawn
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Piety

terse abyss
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Is that a typical stat?
Cus I didn't see it in 7 or 9 ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

rugged pawn
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FFXIV sorry

terse abyss
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But I guess is that like spirit then?

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Or is it yet another stat

rugged pawn
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ

terse abyss
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Sorry, I maybe meant to ask if spirit was a stat in 14

rugged pawn
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No

terse abyss
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Ah, the FF games are oh so similar, yet completely different

terse abyss
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Oh I had a tooltip in 7R
Turns out spirit is a lesser stat for Magic Def, so I guess healing is based on Mag Att - I'll have to check when I finish playing

terse abyss
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seems the Attack part is the misnomer

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but now comes the question of whether to use Cloud with his higher Magic stat, or Tifa with her higher speed stat?
Heal for more, or heal more often

daring hull
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I'd say use Cloud, since you may need Tifa's speed for attacking.

terse abyss
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Ah but Tifa charges up that double ATB bar you need for Prayer
Plus imo she only really shines when take control and can do special move into Overpower (and naturally make more use of Unbridled Strength)

terse abyss
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You know something, even without both Magic up materia and Leather Gloves, Tifa has the highest magic attack (5 points more than cloud atm)

terse abyss
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Now on a related note, do I bother with HP absorption with parry, or just get an ATB charge and use chakra

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As fun as it is to parry the Huntsman to death, it does take a while

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At least in Intergrade you can trigger parry without being attacked first

terse abyss
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Its all about beating Hellhouse on hard with a clutch Megaflare from Bahamut

terse abyss
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Sooo, is it too soon for the 7th Shipping Wars?
Are you team Tifa or Team Aerith, or maybe team Barret?
or are you going to sack off the guys and go for Aerith x Tifa

daring hull
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Can I be Team Sephiroth? He does seem to be Cloud's permanent +1 to everything.๐Ÿ˜ˆ

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(On a more serious note, I will pretty much ship Cloud with everyone, as long as the situation is convincing enough. Except for Cloud/Hojo. There is not enough bleach and mind-altering drugs for me to accept Hojo in any sort of relationship.)

terse abyss
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I'm waiting for you Cloud

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though seems that picking either Tifa or Aerith will start a war
I think we universally get the ship that Cloud and any of the guys - though Vincent and Cid have their own ladies

terse abyss
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Its just amusing that someone might declare war on you, just because you're Team Aerith xD

full crown
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Cloud x Barrett, Marlene needs good mother figure

terse abyss
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sall about the Cloudette

daring hull
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Oh dear. That moment when you realise you can actually edit the colours of some ||chocobo armour|| in Rebirth.

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Well, I'm going to be here a while.

terse abyss
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Gotta match it to the plumage

daring hull
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If Aavak ever streams it, you just know there's going to be at least an hour of Chocobo Customisation.

terse abyss
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in every region

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Honestly I kept mine au natural

daring hull
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Okay, proof that they were on drugs while creating Rebirth - the fact that there actually is a ||mushroom picking|| minigame.

terse abyss
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Oh, you're in the area with the..... ||chickens||

daring hull
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I'm already trying to block that sidequest out of my mind.

terse abyss
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game over music starts playing

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You'll never see that kinda quest the same way again

terse abyss
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so a question, what does a 'red' mage entail?
I get that White mage is healer/support
while Black mage is just straight damage
(and is there any other types)

full crown
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Oh yeah there's more than just White Black and Red, there's also Green and Blue - the latter beingmore support and beast spell focused. Red mages are a combination of White and Black but a master of neither.

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There's also Time Mage, which is probably obvious lol

terse abyss
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does Time work differently than just slow/stop/haste in other games?

full crown
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Nope, they just take those spells from White/Black if they appear in the same apparently

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I had to double check myself on Green, so I pulled it up, and thus I share with thee

terse abyss
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ah Time and Space

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I guess that does make Aerith a Red mage, since 7 doesn't have any magic speciality

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(kinda why I got confused as MAtt affects the damage dealt with offensive spells and the damage healed with curative spells)

full crown
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Since there are no special jobs in 7, and magic isn't specialized, can't really say yay or nay on Red Mage

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Magic not being specialized in that magic is from the materia not innate.

terse abyss
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she can heal just as well as she can hurt

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her attacks are magic based iirc, soul drain, ray of judgement etc (in Remake at least, OG7 has the basic attack)

full crown
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But there are no jobs in 7/7R, she can still go be a staff mage. That's the important part of it, Tifa isn't a monk/Pugi, and Cid isn't a Dragoon despite the similarities

terse abyss
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and jobs are different from classes I take it?

full crown
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They do and I don't think all games have classes either

terse abyss
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ah cus for me a class would be their attacks style and any specialisms (like a berserker would have some form heal on kill for example)

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though I may be running Cloud as a 'Red Mage' currently, cus he has so much more Matt than the other two

terse abyss
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So uhhh, has anyone else completed Rebirth yet?

fleet thistle
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I'm yay close to becoming a Summoner in XIV!

rugged pawn
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Woo! Hope you continue to enjoy, they were my main class for quite some time ๐Ÿ˜„

fleet thistle
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The other fighting classes I'm waiting to do until another time if I can help it.

fleet thistle
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And become a Summoner I have. Next priority will be obtaining a mount.

fleet thistle
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I got my Chocobo, his name is Tinfoil. :3p