terraria-pc

[bronze crest]

Will you be awake/online in approximately 2 1/2 hours?

[shrewd glade]

Idk

Why

[bronze crest]

If you are, I'll buy you Terraria. If you're not, it'll have to wait.

[shrewd glade]

Ok I will

[bronze crest]

I'll tag you here when I'm online. Estimated 2 1/2hr from now

[shrewd glade]

Ok

I want you to know I was going to sleep ok ant thank you

[bronze crest]

No worries.

[warm spindle]

Thanks

SOMEONE how do i find adamite

[warm spindle]

you gotta:
be in hardmode
smash a few altars
grab yourself a metal detector and a few spelunker pots
search cavern layer

[bronze crest]

My vest method is to go to hell and then dig up

[zealous geyser]

any1 know if its possible to share the world file in tmod loader essentially making someone else able to host a world

[sage yarrow]

Yeah, just find your tmod world folder and send the world you want over to them

[shrewd glade]

Good

[bronze crest]

@shrewd glade Still awake?

[rigid helm]

oop

[shrewd glade]

Yea

[shrewd glade]

Pls answer me

[shrewd glade]

Hellooo

[bronze crest]

I got you, one sec.

[shrewd glade]

Thx god ok

[bronze crest]

You are now the proud owner of Terraria. Enjoy!

[shrewd glade]

Thx you sooooo much

[shrewd glade]

I will never forget it

[bronze crest]

No problem, have fun

[torn panther]

does anyone else think skeletron is scary?

I cried and i couldn't get past

[blissful marten]

💀

[bronze crest]

Nnnnnno, no, can't say I've had that experience if I'm honest 🤔

[odd saffron]

I can see why you would be afraid of skeletons, a few people are. If you're on steam you can use a texture pack to make it less scary

[rapid ether]

hi

[bronze crest]

Howdy!

[opal venture]

why just why

[smoky ore]

Skeletron is funny floating skeleton

Dungeon guardian on the otherhand is a full blown jumpscare

[odd saffron]

Why do people salute themselves with joy ?

[tacit rain]

because when joy sprouts you want to salute it with joy

[warm spindle]

@bronze crest didnt expect you here

[bronze crest]

Same to you, friend!
I joined not too long ago and figured I'd stay to help people kill bosses and such. Pretty much just here between Forum visits lol

[warm spindle]

same, but mostly just snooping around for build inspirations (and finding the elusive terraria wiring discord server)

[warm spindle]

just noticed red's message count doesnt update even tho he has new replies on his profile

[bronze crest]

Oh that's interesting. Maybe it's a bug, or perhaps profile posts don't count? I have no clue. And hey when you find that wiring server you should add me, I could start to learn a thing or two lol.

As far as the inspiration goes, is this for your in-game builds or are you talking about your art?

[warm spindle]

for builds generally, im gonna continue the challenge next week too but like limit the time i spend on a piece, thanks to my meds ive been in a good headspace these past few weeks, theres still moments tho xD.

what other terraria servers are you into?

i left a message on the dude who says hes in the wiring discord but so far no response... accidentally joined another server i thought was the wiring server turns out its just a random one and the dude just did wiring tutorials

i just wanna learn how to make a randomizer output, sorta like how shulker box randomizer works in minecraft, and hoping its modular too so i can extend it or add more outputs

[bronze crest]

Oh of course, we all have those moments, some more than others though. I'm so glad to hear you're in a better place now though. I want you to know, if you ever need someone to talk to I'm here. Whether it's serious or about how you stubbed your toe, I'm only a dm away, I mean it.

As for the inspiration, how about a yin-yang style building that half Terra Blade themed and half nights edge themed? I feel like that may be neat, but do with it what you will.

[bronze crest]

Sounds like that's way above my pay grade 😅 lol but I'm not in any other Terraria Servers, pretty much just my server (which isn't specifically Terraria). I'm not opposed to joining more, just haven't looked for any honestly.

[jovial plank]

How would I go about finding the seed of a corrupted world file

I’m gonna use the seed to remake the world the best I can

[zenith stratus]

use logic gates

[zenith stratus]

use tedit

[jovial plank]

I am

But I need to find the seed

[hexed zenith]

How do I stop steam from opening every time I start terraria?

[jovial plank]

You don’t

[hexed zenith]

Ok

[jovial plank]

Terraria is run through steam

[odd saffron]

Steam does not do DRM Free games

Unlike GoG

[hexed zenith]

It just lags my 10 year old pc

[odd saffron]

That was a legitimate question tbh

[zenith stratus]

should find it in world properties then

[midnight socket]

lmk if u need help on anything

[humble lion]

#terraria-help

[slate flame]

You can't

[echo furnace]

Question: I am a new streamer and I wanna know if there is a specific place I can post in? I dont know anything with terraria, I just started playing and I dont wanna post and get in trouble, I prefer asking first

[odd saffron]

I know. It's just that it's weird, think about it : you bought a game and you can't launch it without another program

[slate flame]

But you brought it via steam

I'f you buy it standalone then you'll have a standalone launcher

[broken frigate]

do people actually play classic mode?

[odd saffron]

You mean the character's mod where you just drop money on death ? yeah most people play it

[broken frigate]

nah i mean like worlds

[humble lion]

most people do, especially when playing for the first time

[odd saffron]

[broken frigate]

see me and my friend always master and we have beaten calamity revengence mode

[humble lion]

and

[odd saffron]

Ok

[broken frigate]

so i was wondering cause im finna start on infernum and i wanted to see if someone would give me tips

[odd saffron]

Imagine being me who started palying terraria before Expert existed

[broken frigate]

ive never played infurnem

[humble lion]

don't die and figure stuff out for yourself

[broken frigate]

lol

[odd saffron]

Ok and what's the link with #terraria-pc message ?

[humble lion]

yeah ask in the calamity discord or in #terraria-modded

[broken frigate]

oh

ok thanks

[odd saffron]

No I meant what's the link with what you asked about Classic mode lol

[broken frigate]

i was asking the same thing

was tryna get an answer

[odd saffron]

I don't follow ...

[broken frigate]

just forget it lol

thanks tho

[odd saffron]

I think you don't really know what you want to ask

Because you don't need tips to play classic world mode

That reminds me of some people asking if Master mode was hard when the update was introduced. Bruh, MASTER mode.

[humble lion]

he's sayin why ask how many people play classic, because it has nothing to do with the second question you asked, when you implied they are both connected somehow

[odd saffron]

Or am I the one who does not understand anything ? I'm scared

[weak sigil]

I advise new players to play directly in expert mode, I find it much more complete as a mode, just look at the eye of cthulhu

[vernal lily]

bro WTF WTH I failed at the twins twice already

full adamantite

stormbow and minishark with ichor bullets

[ornate iron]

minishark??

you mean megashark?

[vernal lily]

Yes gun bought from gun dealer after hm

I dont have that

yet

[ornate iron]

i mean

[vernal lily]

you need minishark for megashark

[ornate iron]

megashark is good for twins

[vernal lily]

So I should start by killing destroyer first?

cuz I need souls of might for megashark

[ornate iron]

yeah because its a worm boss

[vernal lily]

Is it easier than twins?

[ornate iron]

should be easier

[vernal lily]

Hm

[worn radish]

daedalus stormbow go bru

[vernal lily]

yeah I got lucky with a mimic

I also got the lifesteal staff

It steals life and heals you

its name is in yellow so I figured its rare

[ornate iron]

i think its dropped by dungeon skeletons

right?

[vernal lily]

I got it from a mimic

[ornate iron]

oh

[vernal lily]

hallowed mimic dropped both deadalus stormbow and lifesteal staff

[ornate iron]

i thought dungeon skeletons because the skull is on top of staff

[vernal lily]

Yeah same lol

Is it good tho should I use it

[ornate iron]

i havent used it

i dont know if its a good or a decent

[vernal lily]

Hm

[shrewd glade]

Howdy

Hello my Terraria friends

[odd saffron]

[shrewd glade]

Uhhh what is this

Mr taco pig

[shrewd glade]

.

[odd saffron]

It is a hug

It's the nurse hugging a rabbit

[shrewd glade]

K

Pigs are haram

[odd saffron]

Ok ?

[shrewd glade]

Jk

[odd saffron]

[shrewd glade]

Just saying pigs are haram

Hmmmm Google

I have got the game today

[prime canopy]

i prefer hearing the opinion of people instead of google

[humble lion]

Life drain drips from the crimson mimic, not hallowed

[raw island]

tf is a lifesteal staff?

never heard of that

[prime canopy]

whats a good summoner loadout for empress of light day time (Pre golem)

[raw island]

endgame gear :D

jk

idk rlly

i havent played summoner

[sand merlin]

The UFO staff

Tiki armour

Wait

Is UFO pre golem?

Idk

Raven staff can do

[eager helm]

Mashallah brother

[opal venture]

not pre golem

after u deal with him

[prime canopy]

so just switch raven with ufo staff after golem?

also wouldnt hollowed armor be better cuz of the free hit u get?

[last gull]

If you want survivability, play something other than summoner I think.

[opal venture]

i soppose

suppose*

[sand merlin]

Post

[last gull]

But yes, Xenostaff is very good. Spooky armour better than Tiki also

[opal venture]

play mage pretty op

isnt tiki better

[sand merlin]

Recently they changed it so that hallowed armour and the master ninja gear dodge effect can't block certain one shots I believe

[last gull]

It gives a slight whip range bonus, but that's it. Lower damage, less minions, and I think less defence

[sand merlin]

Did they buff spooky armour?

[opal venture]

ye thats good combo

[last gull]

It's been that way since beginning of 1.4 iirc

[opal venture]

i dont think so

[sand merlin]

Ok

[last gull]

Recently they changed it so that hallowed armour and the master ninja gear dodge effect can't block certain one shots I believe
Yeah, and it's stupid because it doesn't say that's how it works

[opal venture]

ye

[sand merlin]

Yea

Idk if it works with dungeon guardian/daytime skeletron

[opal venture]

not really

[last gull]

Not with DG, dunno about Skeletron during daytime, probably not

[opal venture]

arent they like same

[last gull]

Nope

[opal venture]

i mean when its day time

[last gull]

And wiki doesn't say either 👍

Yeah, they're still not the same

[opal venture]

i know but

they both one shot u

[sand merlin]

From my one experience in 1.2 it's basically a dungeon guardian with arms

[opal venture]

ye

[sand merlin]

And different health

It has the defense I believ

Dunno tho

[opal venture]

thats what i am talking about

[last gull]

Damage dealt, defence, and skull movement pattern are the same, but max health is different, killing skele at daytime will reward you with killing skele whereas DG does not, also different debuff immunities

[opal venture]

still

[last gull]

Also of course different drops and they spawn from different things

[sand merlin]

Wasn't dguardian immune to everything except frostfire

[last gull]

DG is immune to all debuffs

[opal venture]

idk that

ye

[last gull]

At least, that's what wiki says

Change made in 1.4.1

[opal venture]

thats what i also thought

[sand merlin]

I remember it wasn't immune to frostfire at one point

[last gull]

Desktop 1.4.1: Now immune to all debuffs. Previously had the same immunities as Skeletron.

[sand merlin]

Ah

[opal venture]

ye hes a god

mostly

[raw island]

wuts going on

[opal venture]

he cheesejam

ure prof pic is desturbing

like really

[last gull]

But yeah, oneshot mechanics going through dodge effects is super lame, and is imho not an acceptable solution to "we made dodge chance too strong of a stat"

[terse plaza]

I have a question fargo souls mod
why Eridanus disappears

[last gull]

Try asking in relevant mod server, or #terraria-modded maybe

[toxic basin]

just got on to play with my friend, and when he tried to join me his character is gone, and he has restarted his game.

[opal venture]

new

[last gull]

Probably disable cloud saving.

[opal venture]

i play with my mobile friend

and he gets tp to the tutorial world and loose shit

when we play

nothing to say about it?

stardust

[last gull]

What?

[opal venture]

what u mean what

[last gull]

What are you asking me?

[opal venture]

bruh

i play with my mobile friend

and he gets tp to the tutorial world and loose shit

and can i also know i more thing

what does tshock do on a server what happens if its disabled

[last gull]

I don't know what to suggest for your friend there, report bug for mobile I guess. I'm a PC and Console (1.2.4) player, no clue how mobile stuff works.

[opal venture]

what about tshock

[last gull]

As for tShock, it's just a server-sided plugin -- operates sort of like mods, but instead it's used for commands and sometimes some changes to mechanics, and vanilla clients can connect to it.

[opal venture]

what u mean like changes mechanic

eg?

[last gull]

tShock plugins can change certain interactions in the game. I think the simplest example I can provide of/for that is something like changing effective boss health relative to how many players have attacked it (rather than using the same scaling that expert does, which is just how many players are in the world).
Also think of things like sItem, allowing you to change certain fields on the item (what it shoots, what velocity it shoots at, its damage, prefixes, etc)

You can go more in-depth with it, those are just some surface-level examples.
tShock also comes with a "region" command built-in, which allows the server owner (and any allowed groups/roles) to define rectangular regions that other users cannot modify -- no placing or breaking tiles

[vernal lily]

mb

[opal venture]

so if its disabled it ok right?

thanks man

its just 2 of us playing a normal world

so

[last gull]

Don't need tshock for that, no.

[opal venture]

thanks

[raw island]

i really want to do a mage playthrough

but its so hard

like the starting part

i cant do anything

[toxic basin]

how do i do this?

[last gull]

Pick up some copper and amethyst ig. Magic and summoning damage types just sort of not immediately available upon entering a world.

how do i do this?
Is a setting in Steam -- think you right click on Terraria, go to properties, and there should be (might be?) something that mentions Steam Cloud or cloud saving or some such

[raw island]

i understand that but its hard af

[last gull]

Ay, I hear ya. Long-time player, I've done that process several dozen times at this point.

[toxic basin]

still hasnt worked

[last gull]

I guess you can check local files? Might be in Recycling bin (though beware that it might just be a corrupted file)? Otherwise it's likely that character is just gone.
If cloud saving was on initially, I firmly believe that is what caused the issue, and I don't think there's really any good way to recover the file -- Terraria and cloud saving have frankly never worked. If cloud saving wasn't the issue, I guess just report the issue? Stuff happens, it's tough, but what can you do?
If you need to replace the character you can consider pulling items from an "all-items world" (the most popular now being "transmutation workshop"), a free items server, or by spawning them in through the use of tEdit, tShock, or an inventory editor like Terrasavr

[zenith stratus]

if cloudsave was on then the file was likely moved to the steam data folder

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\userdata\STEAM ACCOUNT NUMBER\105600\remote (the steam account number is going to be a collection of random numbers and it will be different for each person. Most likely you will only see one folder so click whichever one shows up.)

[opal venture]

i always play as a mage

skip the that part just get the jungle armor

az

ez*

even in master

[toxic basin]

my friend is on remote, what does he do now?

[zenith stratus]

any files in there?

[toxic basin]

achivement.steam.dat and favourites.json

[zenith stratus]

hm so no character files, I'd check their OneDrive folder.

[toxic basin]

Nothing about character files

[zenith stratus]

and it's not in the local files either?

[toxic basin]

i dont think so

he said he viewed integrity of it

and searched a little

[zenith stratus]

Documents\My Games\Terraria

check there

[toxic basin]

he has no games folder and when he types in 'terraria' nothing comes up??

[zenith stratus]

has he searched for their character's name?

[toxic basin]

in file explorer?

[zenith stratus]

yup

[toxic basin]

nothing

he said he may aswell go all items server

[zenith stratus]

right, I'd say make a new character and see where that goes

[toxic basin]

how do i find itwem id?

[last gull]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Item_IDs

[warm spindle]

hi guys

[vocal edge]

Guys what do you think if we get command blocks in Terraria?

[sand merlin]

👋

[last gull]

I don't forsee Relogic adding a scripting interface for that, and how would you balance it anyway? Available post-ML in journey worlds? Terraria doesn't exactly have a full-fledged creative mode

[sand merlin]

[vocal edge]

it will be mostly block based like scratch

as for the addition it can be just a secret seed

[zenith stratus]

well they are no longer going to be secret

[last gull]

Right, scripting interface. Still needs a full set of instructions, UI needs to be implemented for drag-and-drop, loops and conditionals would be.. something to try to implement

Also yeah, they are no longer secret (as they should not have been in the first place), nor are they seeds (again, as they should not have been in the first place)

[vocal edge]

What do we call em then?

funky seeds

[last gull]

I've found the term "World Effect" keeps the same general idea while also being applicable to both

[vocal edge]

Anyways command blocks shouldn't be impossible to add as there already exists plugins which do a whole lot more

[last gull]

I'm not saying they're impossible, just that Relogic doesn't seem keen on adding more UI or potentially complex interactions like that. Not to mention multiplayer sync would be hell

[vocal edge]

what if custom code is provided do you think they would consider it?

which tries to adhere to the vanilla styled coding and mostly implement vanilla esque UI's

[last gull]

I'm not saying they're impossible, just that Relogic doesn't seem keen on adding more UI or potentially complex interactions like that. Not to mention multiplayer sync would be hell
Would need to sync the instructions somehow, probably have to be strings because player can change different parts about it, then that needs to be sent to all connected clients, and if/when it's run you'd have a hell of a time making sure it's synced correctly, and even then players could just entirely modify clients to not send that data (or heck, data could just be dropped in transit), and voila you've got people cheating with them. And what does the interface even look like, how is it controlled or run, can the player make inf loops and crash games with it, etc.
Like, the idea is fine, but it's very much something that fits better in tML as a sort of debug or mapmaker tool, rather than something that is implemented in vanilla. Open-ended scripting stuff like that is super prone to players abusing it.

[toxic basin]

is there a way to to locate an item id without having to look through 5455 different ids?

[last gull]

ctrl-f

[toxic basin]

oh yeah

im stupid

haha thanks

[last gull]

Happens.

[vocal edge]

Modern day plugins allow for full on prevention of players placing, using, or even holding specific blocks. So if anyone want's to cheat that can be easily handled.

[last gull]

If you're involving plugins.. just.. do the interactions with a plugin instead?

[vocal edge]

The reason for adding it is for singleplayer maps.

for vanilla

yes these stuff can be done in tmod but adding it as a way for vanilla players to manipulate the game through some sort of mechanisms is much more useful to the creative players

[sand merlin]

Plugins would normally be 3rd party and unlike Minecraft, terraria doesn't have commands usable via a chat (to my knowledge) and simply implementing a block that outputs commands would not just require the block itself to be programmed but also to have commands added to the game, and another thing, how many people would really use it?

[last gull]

Right, so back to message here:
<#terraria-pc message>
How do you balance that for players? Disable achievements in certain worlds, have very niche/specific unlock conditions, like, what here?
And again, Relogic very likely does not want to handle creating that. Also keep in mind that they would be the ones getting flak if the system is exploited -- a lot of players aren't.. always the brightest.

[vocal edge]

The addition of commands inside a block shouldn't be hard as what things will be using will be stuff which already exist as functions in the code itself and just need to be copied and made into interactable scripting elements which can be chained one after another. As for how many people will be using it, I do believe it will garner quite the popularity compared to stuff like complex wiring or pixel boxes.

[vocal edge]

There isn't a need for balancing as the block itself will be hidden in one of those "Secret" seed combos and it will be locked behind end game content + there shouldn't be really anything much inside the command block itself which should garner balancing

Journey mode already exists

it is just implementing it and some additions but in a block form accessible by wiring

[last gull]

Right, so what are you envisioning that this would do? Because command blocks in the way that I know or would think of them operate not dissimilarly from server plugins or mods -- control over blocks in the world, ability to spawn items and NPCs, ability to inflict effects on different entities, creating some drawn effects for players, creating different interactions from some items, teleporting entities, etc.

[vocal edge]

You said yourself roughly what it will contain

a lot of these things are just copying functions and rewriting them with input values

[last gull]

Right, so to make sure I'm understanding what you're saying; it doesn't need balancing because it's endgame and can only be placed or used in specific worlds, but then it also gives the player full omnipotence over that world. Does that sound right?

[vocal edge]

I think limiting it to a specific world will not be a feature as it will make it a bit useless. Also it is just an extened journey mode with more functions in a block form. But yeah omnipotence.

There is another block idea for dealing with build manipulation but that one has a separate issue which is storing builds as schematics in the file system.

[sour pumice]

guys

i need help

my fri cant launch terraria

[last gull]

Prolly restart Steam, or restart the device

[sour pumice]

it said stop but then the game wont start

alry done that but wont fix

[vocal edge]

go to #terraria-help and ask where to find the crash logs if device restart doesn't work

[sand merlin]

go to steam and verify the integrity of the files

[sour pumice]

done wont fix

[sand merlin]

run with administrator (and put admin password in)

[zenith stratus]

go to your task manager and close steam then retry Terraria

[vocal edge]

restarting the pc should've fixed that

[midnight flax]

hey i haven't played terraria much recently but i used to play it a lot. does it matter if i dont have max npc happiness?

[zenith stratus]

increased prices, but that's about it

[midnight flax]

oh ok

it just because it seems a bit of a faf if i have to have them all spread apart

im used to having them all in one place

[zenith stratus]

when they're happy they sell pylons which are pretty much free teleporters

[vocal edge]

which don't require wiring

tho you can have 1 per biome pylon

[midnight flax]

oh

ok thanks guys

[last gull]

I think limiting it to a specific world will not be a feature as it will make it a bit useless. Also it is just an extened journey mode with more functions in a block form. But yeah omnipotence.
I'm going to assert that I highly disagree with the idea that once the player has "finished" the game (really any game) that balance should be (or even can be) thrown out the window. I think players would lose a sense of purpose at that point; you've done everything, you can just do whatever now, and because you can do anything, you have no reason to do anything, you get me?
I don't dislike the creative potential with it, but Terraria doesn't really have like, a proper "creative" mode. I might suggest that it's opened after 100% completion of journey research menu? That way you basically guarantee that the user intends to either build/create, or that they've gone and unlocked everything free through item world or server or some such, and either way you're not so much introducing the issue to all runs.

[vocal edge]

The 100% achievement idea proposition is wonderful

you can just make it like the zoologist where it can be unlocked for the mechanic

or unlocked through multiplayer or terrasavr (if players are lazy as a 2nd option)

[last gull]

Even still, you'd really need to talk up the idea to Relogic -- I know I've mentioned it several times, but Terraria's UI is proper hell to work with (rather ironically, since it's actually the best form of OOP that the game itself has), and netsync would be so not fun to write.

[vocal edge]

I haven't said much but the idea has been in my head for months with proper way connection to the wiring system but the problem is rn that I lack the coding experience to actually make my own example code and also that the devs themselves are very hard to reach

It took several wire engineers. Proposed code changes, and Leinfors himself to properly implement infinite pixel box display mechanics and add them to the game from an unimplimented item.

[last gull]

Make a post on their suggestion forums I guess. I've been active there lately, most 'cuz I don't feel like writing a few features up myself. Xd

[vocal edge]

I will be

but

once I have it as a fully fleshed out idea

with proper video explaining every mechanic

[last gull]

Ay, fair.

[vocal edge]

and the other proposed creative blocks

[unreal matrix]

why my keyboard dont working in terraria i got this bug for 2 times i fixed it and got it again in 3 mins

[vocal edge]

the other thing which I'd like your opinion on is the structure block idea

It's essentially a way of using WEdit in some capacity as a block.

[sand merlin]

try disconnecting controller if possible

[vocal edge]

or adding a 3rd Axis to the world in a way

[unreal matrix]

im in mac book

[sand merlin]

oh ok

[last gull]

tbh I'd just point to StructureHelper mod. If you're doing command block type things anyway, presumably could copy structure format with that

[vocal edge]

the problem is the file storing

lemme quickly summarise the idea

The Structure Block:
It focuses on allowing you to select a region and save that region as a "schematic" under a "blueprint" group which contains "schematics". Using wiring you can cycle through these schematics and place them allowing you to edit a specific region of the world in a near instance using already pre built structures.

This essentially allows you to animate buildings

as mentioned earlier my biggest concern is HOW will each schematic be stored

[last gull]

Yeah, again I think I'd just do this through your command tiles. Something like...

SetBlock ~-1 ~ @Stone
SetBlock ~-1 ~-1 @Wood
//Etc```And you can copy/paste that same script into other tiles, with modifications elsewhere to create the same effect

[vocal edge]

for example 10 schematics of a 100x100 build will be in fact 0.8 MB (worst case scenario with a war table tile) in size (this can actually be compressed a LOT as GB worth of wld file data can be compressed using a zip down to MBs)

[vocal edge]

the reason why the copy pasting of structures ins't through a command block

is due to how it will be implemented with wiring

[native charm]

teleportation dance

welcome pc chat

[last gull]

I mean, would a separate structure tile be any different though?

[vocal edge]

no no I mean

the structure block idea feature will simply be all contained only to the structure block

and you won't be using a command block for it

due to how the wiring will work

since I have a 2nd version to be implemented which I just slapped the word "Advanced" on them.

[last gull]

Right, and I'm trying to figure out what exactly you're saying here that would make my proposal mutually exclusive

[vocal edge]

ok lemme try to explain it a bit more

Command Block:
You can do stuff like journey mod, mob spawning, teleportation, etc.
Structure Block:
You will save a selected region in your file system. Each region can be copy pasted onto your ingame world and cycled.

Then comes the wiring integration

which has 2 stages a Simple and Advanced

• Simple
  Command Block: 1 wire can be used to start or stop a command block.
  Structure Block: 2 wires will be used to cycle left or right through builds.
• Advanced
  Command Block:
  The 2x2 block will use logic gate components to integrate much more fine control
  Structure Block:
  Same applies

For the advanced system

essentially the plan was to have a logic gate lamp

and a faulty logic gate

the lamp will function as the 1 or 0

and the gate will function as a switch

that way you can access ANY command inside those 2 respective blocks

[odd saffron]

What in Moon Lord's name is the topic of that

[last gull]

That's so painfully more complicated than I would have envisioned.

[odd saffron]

So ... What when where

[last gull]

<#terraria-pc message>
Start of conversation

[vocal edge]

An example for a command block function would be:
Giving buff to a player ->

Switch (What function you will be using)
10 (2) -> Function Buff
Switch (What the value of the function is)
1001 (9) -> Input value 9 or the 9th Buff ID
Switch (Confirm function and value)

[zenith stratus]

hard to say if context will help understand

[vocal edge]

Implementing minecraft command blocks in terraria

[odd saffron]

That sounds unreasonably complicated but I could see why you want that

[last gull]

I'mma dip for a bit, will try to catch up on return.

[vocal edge]

As much as I hate adding the advanced version

and not only the simple ones

it is a the ONLY way to integrate it with current wiring systems

[odd saffron]

Wait you're making a mod ?

[vocal edge]

no no

a concept

I am gunning to suggest this to vanilla

[odd saffron]

Ok

I would be more interested in a new furniture set ngl, but I'm not much into redstone that's why

[vocal edge]

you gonna get it anyways

aetherium

what I am aiming for is implementing 2-3 blocks which will essentially change the building scene entirely

[odd saffron]

Yes I mean, new furniture sets as in "others than those whoa re going to egt added in the next updates"

[vocal edge]

a good enough builder would know that we already have enough

[odd saffron]

We never really have enough decorations

[vocal edge]

we do

[odd saffron]

Nope

[vocal edge]

a lot actually

it's about how you utilise them

[odd saffron]

For me, a single candle is everything

Yeah we have a lot, not enough lol

[vocal edge]

I am never against more furniture

but they won't change anything

[odd saffron]

I know

[vocal edge]

tools like the rubblemaker are what we need

and lets not talk about the number of TEdit builders

I could count them on my 1 hand

[odd saffron]

They won't change anything ?

[vocal edge]

what?

[odd saffron]

It's really no use to discuss about more furniture with me, I'll never have enough

[vocal edge]

More furniture is cool

always like it

but they really don't give us builders much

[odd saffron]

I know

[vocal edge]

anything substantial

[odd saffron]

Told ya, for me a candle is everything

https://terraria.wiki.gg/images/0/0a/Living_Wood_Candle.png this, I love

[vocal edge]

living wood candle my beloved

[odd saffron]

(I'm happy the bot did not snipe me this time)

Wait lemme try something

Nope, still angry at the letter n

[vocal edge]

Btw @last gull you know any place or person where I can find people willing to make some dummy code for the Command and Structure Blocks?

[shrewd glade]

Howdy

[odd saffron]

[last gull]

@vocal edge
Might be able to find some folks in tModLoader server, though.. Let it be known they'll give you more hassle than I did.
Your best bet for that, is probably commissions or something, otherwise you're praying that someone responds to a random request (which doesn't happen often).
It might also help to have a good visual of what you might expect.

[vocal edge]

Thanks for the tip. Also really 👀 they will be that much against it?

[last gull]

Lot of experienced modders that could implement such things are also rather particular about the design of things, I assure you it's less in opposition to ideas, and more about trying to follow ideal design principles, without creating extra work.

[prime canopy]

spooky armor or tiki armor for empress of light fight (day)

[zenith stratus]

tiki

[last gull]

Either I guess. I'd go with spooky, more damage

[zenith stratus]

Tiki just enables more range so you can attack more often

[last gull]

It gives whip range, you don't want to be in whip distance

[zenith stratus]

and with daytime empress you're going to want to keep your distance, especially during the sun dance

[last gull]

Could also use sentry armours Xd

[zenith stratus]

unless you plan on fully not using whips then you can just use spooky then hold a melee weapon for extra armor piercing with sharpening station

sentry armor while they do give better boosts, no minion slots

[last gull]

I mean, even with bonus whip range, I don't think any of the same-stage whips have enough range to hit through sun dance and stuff

[zenith stratus]

morning star

kaleidoscope

[last gull]

Did they get range buff in 1.4.4?

[zenith stratus]

tiki got a range buff in 1.4.4, making it so those whips have great additional range

[last gull]

Right, that wasn't what I asked

[zenith stratus]

the whips themselves didn't get a range buff no

[last gull]

Right, so, I don't think, that even with the bonus whip range, any of the whips outrange sun dance and other such attacks.

[elder path]

you can just stop whipping in sun dance phase

let your minion do work

[last gull]

Right, exactly

[vocal edge]

I was recommened to post the suggestion in the Request channel for tmod

[rapid lion]

Hello!

[vocal edge]

do you think it would be a good idea to post the idea there once I have it more refined

[rapid lion]

Anyone know is using whips without summons a good idea?

I've seen YouTubers like Necr0 do it, but I dunno.

[zenith stratus]

for some sorta challenge run?

[rapid lion]

Yep.

[zenith stratus]

I mean, it's doable

[last gull]

do you think it would be a good idea to post the idea there once I have it more refined
Probably fine, they get worse ideas regularly anyway. Best to have a good format, I recommend looking for messages from Aeterna, nicknamed "AE" in tML server -- he has some good samples of how much effort should be going into those ideas/posts

Anyone know is using whips without summons a good idea?
Absolutely doable. Done a run or two like that, it's.. slow going, but it's doable.

[zenith stratus]

I was wrong, Kaleidoscope is like a single tile off, during testing it can go about 49 tiles with tiki but just needed that small amount further but either way it's probably too close still for sundance range

[last gull]

Yeh, and much of the rest of the time range isn't that much of a concern, I think the extra +1 minion and however much extra damage from spooky is better for EoL

[zenith stratus]

they have the same amount of minion slots

[last gull]

Spooky got increased, unless they reverted that lol

[zenith stratus]

increased to line up with tiki I believe

[vocal edge]

I like how I've built for so long that I've practically forgotten survival terraria

[last gull]

Shoot, you're right. Damn spooky really used to be that bad, huh? XD

[vocal edge]

Haven't even beaten ML in SL in the past 7k+ hours

[zenith stratus]

yeah but now it has +28% damage over tiki

[vocal edge]

not once

[zenith stratus]

I test vs ML monthly at least lol

lately it's been tank builds

like facetanking in legendary mode

[vocal edge]

I did stumble upon a build once in the past which was a bit of OP

after the addition of another item slot I managed to make it pretty much a SIT and TANK build for endgame

it could pretty much tank any boss simply by sitting

[last gull]

DR tank is a bit strong in higher difficulties, yeh .-.

[zenith stratus]

https://youtu.be/jCLbmuy4cWI?si=xsJDXsFpn0j39a_6

[vocal edge]

yeah it was very similar

ML really isn't that hard unlike no move planty on 50% less hp

that direct dmg really hurts

[wintry hare]

i've done this before
it actually works

you can facetank moonlord even on mmftw

[zenith stratus]

Duke FIshron who was once believed you couldn't facetank I also made a build for, gonna try doing it on legendary

[wintry hare]

I still have a character somewhere called ftw facetanking

the aim of which is to do exactly that

[last gull]

It's honestly gross that you can even do that. Like, yeah, it's a strat, but come on, facetanking, and having non-insignificant damage bonuses is disgusting.
Meanwhile summoners and mages get within 500 tiles of danger and spontaneously explode. :/

[finite quail]

anyone has a spare obsidian rose?

[vocal edge]

I am still very angry only melee got a zenith

and the DPS dealers didn't get an equivalent

[last gull]

Honestly, I think Zenith was a mistake

[zenith stratus]

facetanking isn't limited to any class

any class can tank

[last gull]

Yes, and only melee gets damage bonuses

[vocal edge]

summoner tank

[zenith stratus]

valhalla knight has damage bonuses

[vocal edge]

funny how the tank class is also the highest dps class with the least effort

[last gull]

100%

[zenith stratus]

summoner is probably the best class to tank

[vocal edge]

you are talking bout hybrids tho

[prime canopy]

how do i release a prismatic lacewing

[zenith stratus]

Tanking involves armor mixing no matter the class, I mean yeah there's beetle shell but those bonuses are so minimal it might as well be classless

[vocal edge]

The problem is the pure classes

[zenith stratus]

hold it in your hotbar and click anywhere, wherever you click the lacewing will be released. If it's outside the hallowed then it will disappear quickly

[last gull]

11% melee damage and 5% crit is almost an extra emblem.

[zenith stratus]

You can still tank with a "pure" class, the class imo is only reliant on the weapons not the armor that you choose

[wintry hare]

yeah it's a shame

[vocal edge]

In my eyes a pure class is mostly one which 100% uses a weapon matching their class and a big portion of their tools are geared towards the class

[last gull]

Terraria's classes, granted, are poorly designed, but when one specific class can quite easily have some of the highest damage output, while also having built to facetank rather than deal damage, where there do you start questioning balance?

[vocal edge]

A melee can be a:
Tanker, Melee Speed, Attack Damage

oh and all of them can face tank

a summoner is a piece of paper in the wind

he focuses on those extra minions slot

[zenith stratus]

well melee speed is also benefits summoner quite often to the point where a lot of pure damage summoner builds use Berserker's Glove for the added melee speed for whips

[vocal edge]

a mage focuses only on the dmg or mana

[zenith stratus]

I wouldn't even say they're poorly designed, it just has a really flexible system that allows for so much unique playstyles

[vocal edge]

still that doesn't mean that the pure classes need to be abandoned in the dust by a hybrid melee or for the lols just a tanker only

[zenith stratus]

Like you both think of mage tanking as unheard of but it's such a fun and unique playstyle allowing you to use underestimated weapons like the Bubble Gun

[last gull]

Nono, they're poorly designed. What would you say are the real distinguishing features between them? Mages use mana? So do summoners. Okay so summoners' minions and such last longer.. except mages have clouds and rainbows that last a while. Okok, let's look at melee, maybe it's free to use? Except summoners have whips and rangers have a few misc launchers that don't use ammo. Okay maybe melee doesn't have projectiles? Except melee is mostly projectiles now

[vocal edge]

true melee is funni

[zenith stratus]

true melee is also fun to do while tanking lol

[vocal edge]

ah yes sitting and swining a sword in one place

[last gull]

"true melee" is a fake concept that no one can agree on

[vocal edge]

Very fun ,,,

[last gull]

Facetanking is a strat

[zenith stratus]

true

[zenith stratus]

I mean I enjoy creating builds and testing them, same as you enjoy creating different types of builds

[vocal edge]

I do also enjoy making class builds

Still doesn't make melee any less op or boring

[zenith stratus]

I just minmax the shit outta mine

I really don't think melee is OP and I'm going to ignore zenith since that's just a ridiculous weapon that does too much damage to be considered any class

[last gull]

I mean, it's not, but yea it probably should have been defined as classless/generic-type damage

[vocal edge]

If I remember I didn't focus on making a melee dmg build but I got 20k dps on a standard melee build

which beat my point blank range max ranged dmg celebrator mk 2 build

[zenith stratus]

what were the tests against?

[vocal edge]

Celebrator MK2 vs Zenith

[zenith stratus]

well

[last gull]

Yeah well okay no duh there

[vocal edge]

since you could think of it as the Ranger's Zenith

[zenith stratus]

You can't really label melee as OP if just Zenith is the OP one

[vocal edge]

Even then lets not forget the terrablade

or the flying dragon sword

[zenith stratus]

Flying Dragon and Terra Blade don't compare to post ML weapons

[vocal edge]

course they don't

but for their respective position in the progression

they are quite good

anyways I should prob be building and not talking bout weapons which I haven't touched in a log time

[zenith stratus]

I mean yeah Flying Dragon is the best melee weapon preML

but I mean gets beat by Phantasm with venom arrows

[vocal edge]

wait isn't phantasm ML ?

[last gull]

Vortex frags

[zenith stratus]

it's pillar weapon

[vocal edge]

yes it is

why mention it with the Flying Drag ?

[zenith stratus]

because Flying Dragon beats the melee pillar weapons

so it's the best melee has preML

[vocal edge]

Actually the solar erruption is on par with it

tho it's mostly dependant on the enemy's position

[zenith stratus]

brave sentence

[vocal edge]

did the dps tests

[zenith stratus]

how long ago?

[vocal edge]

months

[sand merlin]

funny people on their way to say copper shortsword is the best

[vocal edge]

F YOU it's lawnmower

[sand merlin]

true...

[zenith stratus]

mine were also months ago too

[vocal edge]

oh yeah that's way too far off

as I said it's very dependant on position

solar er is perfect if the enemies are very close to you

[zenith stratus]

not mine but relevant

[zenith stratus]

flying dragon does better when getting close too

[vocal edge]

solar erruption deals like 1K more dmg point blank range than flying

oops I meant

like 200-300 dps

I was too far

this is odd I am getting 1.7 -1.9k max dps with flying drag at point blank range while with the solar er I am getting 2.3 - 2.7k dps

[zenith stratus]

I have to actually exit starfield to test bc I can't record while it's open

[vocal edge]

wait it was the prefix

[last gull]

What I see of it, is even just non-min/max builds, equipment benefitting melee damage generally gives much more survivability than other classes' equivalents (namely defence and DR), and still gives pretty comparable damage bonuses.
If you're going to add some ways for players to tank, then they should not also be given large damage bonuses. Imagine this in like, a sort of economical way; you have a number of points to spend on different stats, you might pour a bunch into damage output, and ignore your survivability, or maybe you put everything into tanking and don't put much into damage. You shouldn't be able to overdraw your balance and have the same (or even realistically comparable) damage outputs with folks that don't have the same build for defence or whatever.
Now, melee can tank, fine, but it should have a lower DPS output, or if someone will build it to deal damage like other classes, they should sacrifice a comparable amount of survivability for it. Heck, I mean, magic equipment has the second lowest average defencive bonus from any class, and they have a relatively small pool of mana as a resource to be managed, and they get what, maybe slightly better damage numbers? The lack of melee having any realistic flaws that would make it fun to play with, or fit in with other class balance just make it feel like a blah class, and I kind of really hate it

[vocal edge]

yeah 2-2.2k solar erruption
1.6-1.8k flying dragon

I am too tired so I am not gonna read that and gonna go back to building

[zenith stratus]

It would be a lot of work to balance that you get lowered damage output for trying to tank method, since you already get lower DPS than a glass cannon build obviously

[vocal edge]

but ...

that's why it's a glass cannon

it's purpose is to be weak to deal more dmg

[zenith stratus]

exactly

[vocal edge]

if you aren't tank why tf would a tank deal more dps than you

[zenith stratus]

I said it gets lower DPS than a glass cannon build

[vocal edge]

ok I am confused

[zenith stratus]

"Now, melee can tank, fine, but it should have a lower DPS output" I am saying it does have a lower DPS output than glass cannon

[vocal edge]

ah alright

well isn't the problem an overbundance on defense?

that you have TOO much defense

not that you have a lot

[last gull]

Mostly DR now, but melee equipment also generally has higher defence as well

1.4.4 added way too much DR to sets :|

[vocal edge]

I like how I did the tests on top of the UK flag

just realised that

[zenith stratus]

Is that a problem? The max defense in the game is 208 which yes can fancetank a tank a lot of mobs but that isn't achievable realistically the most realistic amount of defense you can fight bosses with is around 160-170 which makes you much more susceptible to bosses and requires a lot of trial and error to get the values right

it took me a lot of attempts to facetank ML

[vocal edge]

it isn't that hard tho

like getting the values

in terms of knowing what to get

[earnest haven]

It’s difficult without a wiki

[vocal edge]

oh also vamp knives make you unkillable but at that point you are overkilling it

[earnest haven]

Love vamp knives

[vocal edge]

journey mode

[last gull]

It’s difficult without a wiki
This game needs a wiki to be playable anyway

[vocal edge]

all you need is to do some reading

[zenith stratus]

I mean yeah you do have the defense formula and it's rather easy to understand but it's not easy still calculating what you can do with that amount of damage taken

[zenith stratus]

vamp knives don't work vs ML

[vocal edge]

they do for planty

and duke

[zenith stratus]

not enough for Duke

it ain't 1.2 vamp knives

[earnest haven]

I mean, they technically do work for duke

[vocal edge]

I haven't tested duke in a very long time

[earnest haven]

Wand of sparking can beat duke i think

[zenith stratus]

they don't work for facetanking duke I should say

[vocal edge]

forgot if I managed to face tank him

[last gull]

Vamp Knives do work for ML, it can be restricted with debuff but that's it

[warm spindle]

Who speak Spanish?

[vocal edge]

Nein

[zenith stratus]

which you are going to be restricted often if facetanking

[last gull]

Ay, but it does work.

[zenith stratus]

very rarely

[vocal edge]

Also all of you pale in comparison to the Wiring Engineers

[zenith stratus]

so not enough

not enough you'd value it over firing

[earnest haven]

I miss vamp knives making you invincible tbh

[vocal edge]

why do all these fancy calculations when you can just wire up heart statues

[earnest haven]

Was fun

[last gull]

Perhaps, but I felt the need to clarify

[zenith stratus]

That's why I am skilled in minmaxing not wiring

[last gull]

Because there are things that the vampire knives don't work on, and ML should not be confused with that set of enemies

[zenith stratus]

It is generally not suggested to use vamp knives/spectre robe for ML due to the health gained just not being worth over the damage you could've gotten in

[vocal edge]

remember every boss can be beaten with wiring

0 armor

[last gull]

True, wiring OP

[zenith stratus]

nerf wiring

[vocal edge]

skill issue

[zenith stratus]

take away the grand design

[last gull]

Idk, I'd say a better starting point is giving teleporters back to steampunker

[vocal edge]

just gimme command blocks 😎

[last gull]

Who tf had the idea of giving them to the mechanic, like, actually

[vocal edge]

you can just transmute em

so wiring for the win again

[zenith stratus]

ouch

[last gull]

Yeh

you can just transmute em
so wiring for the win again
Can just what?

[vocal edge]

that's why I am looking for someone to program it

[vocal edge]

Transmutation

[last gull]

With 1.4.4 liquid?

[vocal edge]

no no

glitch

[last gull]

Oh. Yeah that's not confusing at all

I mean, if you want to allow that sort of thing you could just get a modded client to do that for you ]:|

[vocal edge]

at that point you might as well transmute endgame items tho

[last gull]

Also true

[vocal edge]

nope that's still part of the game

bug or not

it's a feature for me

[last gull]

Right, and so would modifying your client -- literally making it a part of the game

[vocal edge]

not shipped with the base game on a simple install

transmutation can be built in a matter minutes

mostly to acquire the mats

[last gull]

Maybe true, but that doesn't really make it any better now does it

[vocal edge]

well it's the equivalent of cheating using the ingames provided tools so you might as well not count it

I am just waiting for the 1.4.5 update to drop to confirm whether they did a simple surface level fix or an entirely deep fix of the entire transmutation glitch

since I will be needing it for my future maps

[last gull]

It's gonna be surface level, are you kidding?

[vocal edge]

?

[last gull]

Relogic's made a lot of surface-level fixes to these kinds of things lately

[vocal edge]

as I said there's a chance that the surface level affects just enough the glitch where it makes it unusable

we aren't exactly sure whether they trully fixed it or not

until the update drops

[last gull]

For sure, I'm just expecting that it'll adversely affect some other system inexplicably

[zenith stratus]

new transmutation glitch incoming

[tulip summit]

hey

[vocal edge]

I won't say much as you are in the wiring server

but you know if it's just a bast fix

that ain't fixing it

[tulip summit]

Actually I am an Artist and looking for commission to pay my house rent and college fee, so I was wondering if you needed anything done for your PFP, 2D/3D models, Twitch like Emotes, or any other art done for your OC, etc, this commission would really help out!

[vocal edge]

sir this is #terraria-pc

[last gull]

Prolly not the place to post about this.

[vestal sable]

how do i get obsidian flower

[last gull]

Drops from fire imps

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Obsidian_Rose

[sudden wasp]

keybind to lock an inventoryh item

[zenith stratus]

like favorite?

[sudden wasp]

yes

[zenith stratus]

left alt + click on the item

[sudden wasp]

ty

[elder island]

Best looking armour?

[prime canopy]

stardust dragon or terraprisma

[odd saffron]

Depends on your tastes

[supple mauve]

is chester separate from piggy bank/safe/etc or does it share an inventory with any of them?

[odd saffron]

It's basically a piggy bank

[zenith stratus]

same as a piggy bank

[elder island]

Yeah but I am asking for peoples opinions

[odd saffron]

What you place in chester will be in a piggy bank

[zenith stratus]

dragon is better for bosses, prisma is better for crowds

[supple mauve]

alr thx

[zenith stratus]

I usually mix sets/vanities together but I would choose Spectre as a good full set

[odd saffron]

Oh. Then ... Hallowed armor

The cape is gucci

[elder island]

Hallowed is peak

Can hallowed arm or be used till endgames

[odd saffron]

And as vanity ... Leinfor's set. Rest in peace dear dev, we all miss you

[sand merlin]

imo molten armour + twotone dyes

[vernal lily]

Bro I just got the clentaminator and I just started clentaminatin' all over the place lmaoaoaoao

[bronze crest]

He was a good friend too, may he rest in peace.

[rapid ether]

can sm halp me idk know what to do

[clear matrix]

What do you mean

[rapid ether]

idk how to play

[clear matrix]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Guide:Walkthrough

[jovial plank]

World properties?

[zenith stratus]

when you open tedit, on the right should be a tab section labeled "World Properties"

[jovial plank]

It’s corrupted

[clear matrix]

I would recommend just doing whatever and using the walk-through I linked whenever you get stuck.

[jovial plank]

I can’t open it in things

[zenith stratus]

what does it say when you try to open it?

[rapid ether]

ok i got you

[jovial plank]

Can’t remember exactly but says it can’t load or something

For some reason the name in game for the world is blank goo

Too

And it asks if I want to load the backup and then says it can’t load that

[zenith stratus]

means there is no data on your world then

[jovial plank]

What

Okay my best hope is trying to use the file to find the seed and remaking the important stuff

[zenith stratus]

do you have a .bak file?

[jovial plank]

Yeah I’ve tried recovering via those

[zenith stratus]

and you tried loading those into tedit?

[jovial plank]

I’ll just try find the seed and use tedit to remake the important things and add the bosses and npcs

[jovial plank]

Yep

[torpid vessel]

Anyone wanna play together will I stream?

[zenith stratus]

alright

[civic pollen]

yo I just beat wierd deer thing that spawned in snow

[bronze crest]

Deerclops, yes. Hopefully you got the best item in the game, Lucy.

[civic pollen]

I did

I also got funnie chest pet

[shrewd glade]

Who want to play

[civic pollen]

sure

[shrewd glade]

A new world

[civic pollen]

why not I need more experince anyway

lemmie fight skeltron first

I gotta do that

[shrewd glade]

Can I come

[civic pollen]

sure

[warm spindle]

What's the number one hardest terraria mod there is

I already did a calamity infernum

[bronze crest]

Random Heart Attack Mod

[warm spindle]

Not like a attachment mod I mean like calamity for example

Or fargos souls

[ivory rover]

Me when llife

[arctic cedar]

someone have the star wraith?

[silent bloom]

Im playing thorium and how do i put it in fullscreen

[abstract wing]

You go to settings

I think it's like display or something

Then u change it to full screen

[grim jacinth]

anyone trya hop on my calam serv?

idk nun bout it

[silent bloom]

K thanks

[zenith ibex]

who got free solar armor

[zenith ibex]

If you don’t mind

[rapid temple]

i got free moon lord drops

cuz i farmed him recently

[zenith ibex]

pls give some

how do you join im lowkey new to pc

Add me on steam?

No way this chat is drier than console

[snow storm]

Just get it from a server

[zenith ibex]

what server

[snow storm]

Check YouTube

[snow storm]

Just look up free item server terraria

[zenith ibex]

bet 🙂

[ruby magnet]

hey i clear expert so can u recommend mode?

[ripe hearth]

hello, who have a tiger staff or a desert key? (i can trade for)

[lyric oracle]

blade or sanguine staff in 1.4.4?

or is optic better than both if u can beat twins first

[tame zenith]

How do I make a music pack on iMac

[olive fjord]

would you consider it cheating to teleport yourself instantly anywhere youve been before? i say no because if youve been there before that means you can get there so why waste the time

[bronze crest]

Depends on how it's used honestly. If it's just for travel, I'd agree that it isn't cheating.
If it's to get out of a sticky situation then I would absolutely consider that cheating.

[olive fjord]

magic mirror can get you out of a sticky situation and thats in the actual game

i always keep mine on my hotbar for that kinda thing

[bronze crest]

Yes, and I consider it an unfair escape. Do I still use it? Yes, but that doesn't make it any less a cheap tactic to escape the poor decisions you've made.

[olive fjord]

what if its somthing like a digger spawning in early hardmode you cant really control that

BTW as somone whose beaten expert on every class is there anything i should know for master? trying it for the first time (im a ranger)

[warm spindle]

I would yeah but it's a single player game do what you want lel. There's pylons/teleporters to put in places you want to revisit easily

[warm spindle]

Main thing is just prepare properly. Make good arenas, good potions, good weapon/armor/accessories. If you do that then just dodge better

Pretty much it

[olive fjord]

i manged to get a living wood wand on the first 7 trees i cut

[warm spindle]

When I play expert mode I underprepare a ton compared to master because I don't need to be as prepared

[bronze crest]

You can't control the spawn, no, but you can control the fight. I'd argue most deaths in the game are not necessarily caused by a difficult enemy spawning, more so the player puts themselves in a disadvantaged situation. This causes the player to die despite being able to beat the mob in a prepared fight.

Idk my logic has holes I won't lie, but I'm just answering the question.

@warm spindle is spot on. I'd also recommend prioritizing movement as well, since you're already a glass cannon.

[olive fjord]

fair enough

[warm spindle]

I play almost exclusively hardcore nowadays so I like my recalls/mirrors

[olive fjord]

its why i like ranger it is powerful if you can dodge just i fucking hate having to restock on ammo witch is why i have a mod that makes ammo unlimted once you get 200 of whatever type

[warm spindle]

Melee is the best class for that reason. No hassle in resource management, still ranged af, one of the stronger dps throughout every stage of the game, highest defence... but yeah also it's not TOO hard to get a good stokepile of ammo, especially when you can buy good ammo at most stages of the game

[olive fjord]

melee is overrated imo

i just kinda find it boring

[warm spindle]

It's objectively the strongest class imo. Why you find it boring though?

[coral halo]

probably the only stage where melee kinda struggles compared to other classes is pre-mech, sure the options are fairly strong, but other classes have it slightly better

[olive fjord]

i agree that it's objectivily the strongest but to me the terraria melee weapons feel less unique then the magic summoner and ranged weapons in other games

[warm spindle]

Yeah that'd definitely it's weakest point. But even then, frostbrand, shadowflame knife, drippler crippler get you through the mechs good enough and nights edge is great at keeping stuff off you when caving. Still very nice!

[olive fjord]

name another game that has a series of aqautic animal based machine guns or a staff that summons blood frogs

[warm spindle]

But yeah more longevity in other class weapons you get pre-mech

[olive fjord]

plus the mega shark dominates early to mid hardmode if you get crystal bullets and kill destroyer first

[lethal knot]

yeah fr, idk how he did it

[olive fjord]

?

[warm spindle]

The 1.4.5 sword updates added a lot to the class for me. Definitely feels more unique now but yeah it's all preference. I like mage a lot for variety reasons too

[olive fjord]

my tierlist goes

[warm spindle]

Megashark is good for sure although it is truly one of the most overrated weapons lol

[olive fjord]

1 ranger
2 mage
3 summoner
4 melee

[warm spindle]

it's good tho don't get me wrong

[olive fjord]

it got me through plantera and i think golem (can't remeber did my ranger playthrough several months ago)

[warm spindle]

You get it after 1 mech and people usually use it to golem 100% it's strong and hard to replace if you're using guns

I think chaingun is the next pew pew pew gun that is like the megashark and you can only get that post-plantera and it's annoying to get so makes sense people love megashark

I like bow ranger more than gun ranger so i'll say guns are overrated in general 😉

[olive fjord]

use different ones depending on which stage of the game im at i use ore bows until i get an arms dealer to move in switch to the mini shark, then for the destroyer i use the final hardmode ore repeater, then megashark up until plantera where kill the duke to get a tsunami, then xeno popper until vortext beater

[warm spindle]

Yeah that's good progression!

[olive fjord]

although the martion maddness event fucking sucks

[warm spindle]

Yeah it does it's a chore just to get the drops you want is how I see it

At least it can't happen randomly

Whenever I feel like doing anything i'll get a random event of solar eclipse/pirates to suffer through

i wanna do another terraria game D: but i want a challange cuz i already did infernum

Good thing you can skip them easily now tho heh

[warm spindle]

Nice! I do need to get started on my calamity playthrough hmm hmm

If you ever wanna jam a vanilla legendary diff that's what I usually play

hmmmmmmmmmmm

i more wanna do modded tbh

I used to play a lot of modded that i thought vanilla was boring so I get that. Now Im back to vanilla and dont want to go back to modded yet

[rapid ether]

who can play with me i got no friends

[bronze crest]

If anybody needs any help defeating any (non-modded) boss, feel free to tag me here or shoot me a message. I'll be happy to help!

[olive fjord]

master mode is fun all but 2 of my 6 deaths so far are from darts fed a diet of cocaine and steroids

[warped umbra]

@dim fiber check your dms i sent u a thingy

[iron lark]

Can someone help me

Im stuck

[hard dune]

So u played modded because thought vanilla is boring and now it isnt after playing modded?

[iron lark]

Im doing a expert mode summoner playthrough and I have spider armour, the blade staff and all the usual accessories and i cant beat the mechs

[warm spindle]

Yeah I played only modded for a while now Im back to vanilla

[hard dune]

How is vanilla fun again after playing modded tho?

[warm spindle]

because at the time modded was 1.3.5 and vanilla had new updates. So I liked vanilla again and now I haven't touched the new tmod since

[flint bison]

being properly balanced

[frail mesa]

skill issue at that point

try using the nursr

nurse

[rancid glade]

monkey

[hexed zenith]

Can you open and play terraria without internet?

[rancid stone]

Hi all

[odd saffron]

Yes, steam has an offline option. But you have to connect from time to time iirc

[hybrid lance]

who wants to play terraria

[odd saffron]

#archive-ltp

[hexed zenith]

Ok

I'm just in school and dont know the wifi password

[random mortar]

i need help, i can see my pc cursor over my game cursor

what do i do to fix the pc cursor from showing on my games cursor

[crimson dove]

try out to go full screen

or windowd mode

idk

[random mortar]

its okay thank you
i just had to run the game in admin

[crimson dove]

alright

[rare mist]

just restart game fr

[crimson dove]

(probably just the restart alone fixed it)

[nocturne birch]

is there a trick to get the frog leg faster?

[wicked lark]

No only auto jump

But i not sure have something extra

sorry i misunderstood the question

[wicked lark]

Use fishing potion and build best fishing setup

Also look weather and moon phases

[nocturne birch]

lol i was confused a bit

ok thx

btw is it worth it getting it?

[worn radish]

probably

[nocturne birch]

i have terraspark boots

should i get it?

[dull depot]

Does anyone know a good upgrade to the thunder zapper

[warm spindle]

Boss?

[nocturne birch]

i defeated solar pillar and got 18 solar fragments

which weapon should i craft to fight the other pillars

with the solar fragments

[dull depot]

I'm at pre skeletron

I'm very impressed with the thunder zapper and could def beat skeleton with it, just wondering if there's better

[warm spindle]

Space gun

Or the demon scythe if you can be bothered

[prime canopy]

is it better to fight Moon lord with stardust dragon or terraprisma

[zenith stratus]

stardust

[ocean hornet]

Hey, not really sure where the best place to bring this up is, but i was looking on the list of weapons page on the official Terraria Wiki (wiki.gg) and noticed that Paper Airplanes are effectively listed 3 times. Dunno if this is a potential mistake, but figured i'd bring attention to it regardless

[sharp nexus]

lol what?

[wheat ledge]

functionally the variants do the same thing but they're treated as different items in the code

[high vessel]

How hard is it to get the obsidian swordfish?

[odd saffron]

This question does not make much sense. It's easy to get I guess ?

[last gull]

The fishing calcs are complicated, and as far as I can tell there's not an overarching "chance for catch" listed on the wiki.
For what it's worth, the obsidian swordfish, for all of its stats, isn't all that great of a weapon. It doesn't have a lot of range, and a lot of enemies and bosses tend to stay pretty far from you.

[zenith stratus]

you can calc with this: https://forums.terraria.org/index.php?threads/1-4-4-fishing-calculator.115364/

[harsh trench]

should i use frame skip subtle or frame skip off with a framelimiter?

[prisma pewter]

if it was off
with a good pc it should make everything go fast,with a bad one it should make things slower

if im wrong correct me on that

[harsh trench]

i think that's about right, i just remember having weird sync issues with dedicated servers few years back that made MP not fun because the enemies would warp around when they moved.

and that it had something to do with frame skip i think, but then fixing that brought in input lag i was like "damned if i do, damned if i don't"

also i'm wondering which one will have less input lag

[outer egret]

who here can create a 24/7 terraria modded server?
dm me if so

[nocturne birch]

which one better
nebula arcanum or blaze?

[zenith stratus]

blaze is better for bosses, arcanum is better for events

[harsh trench]

patch notes say frameskip subtle was made for pc/monitor that can do more than 60, but when i set it, i still only get 60?

[harsh trench]

frame skip on maxes cpu1 usage, but brings all other usage to near zero. sublte maxes cpu1 but significantly raises activity on 2-4 other cores, and off brings them all down but makes animations/physics wrong.

still trying to figure out if any of them have input lag

[stuck gull]

Hi

[celest glen]

Hi

[vestal sable]

how do i remove npcs from houses

[real rover]

You can't remove them but you can move them to an empty one

[vestal sable]

ok

[last gull]

You can remove them actually.
Go to the housing menu, select any of the NPCs (or you can also use the housing checker), and then right click on the NPC flag.
Note that the NPC can/will move back in if no other houses are available, but using this you can remove an NPC from the given house.

[gentle sleet]

i was farming medusas naturally without a setup and never got my item but i did get a slime staff

[last gull]

Low % drop rates suck, RNG sucks.

[hybrid crest]

I cant play terraia or tmodloader its saying i have issues with my one drive saying like main engine crash pelase help

[rocky pawn]

restart your computer

[earnest haven]

solves every problem

[strong yarrow]

@low ridge wsg my bro

[low ridge]

why are you like this

[strong yarrow]

amazing?

@low ridge the @somber hull reminds me of you...

cus youre a sub

[orchid venture]

Quincy

[untold thicket]

monke??

[storm geyser]

Hello, I'm looking for a Brazilian person to play terraria with me, I'm from version 1.4.4.9
I'm just looking for someone to play with me

[worldly junco]

so I want to build like a haunted mansion

but idk what I should use for a block pallete

[hallow flame]

I like terraria

[worldly junco]

just looking for a background thing, it doesn't need to be functional

[hallow flame]

yes

[brisk kite]

Anyone know where I can browse modded adventure maps? Or if anyone has recommendations

[open fractal]

anyone wanna play?

[shrewd glade]

Me

[open fractal]

k

im doing vanilla, is that finhe?

fine

[shrewd glade]

Yea

I want vanilla

[open fractal]

k i will send fc

1288428992

[shrewd glade]

One sec

[open fractal]

i would paste

[shrewd glade]

No I am opening steam

[open fractal]

oh ok

[shrewd glade]

I sent it

[open fractal]

k

[shrewd glade]

Skill issues git gud

[open fractal]

yea

lol

[shrewd glade]

Lol

[open fractal]

it was a bet bout somthing

[shrewd glade]

Np

[open fractal]

expert btw

[shrewd glade]

Uhh

[open fractal]

you good with dat?

[shrewd glade]

Yea yea

[open fractal]

it be done in 3 min

or less

just had to do something thats all

no password

[signal palm]

hi guys

[fierce hornet]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-animated-lazy-sleepy-cute-gif-17741860