terraria-pc

[sly vault]

cause its normally 400 i think

[viral escarp]

true

[copper coral]

if your computer is good enough

[hollow zinc]

also they nerfed conference call after i spent 40 minutes of agony against astrum deus

[hollow zinc]

I think so

[viral escarp]

ok but like,

[last gull]

lmao, nono. Projectile cap is 1000

[viral escarp]

new terra blade

amiright?

[copper coral]

ahh yeah calamity MP is very much laggy

[hollow zinc]

Oh hey stardust

[copper coral]

broken

it's so good and so pretty

[last gull]

Yea hi.

[viral escarp]

cant argue

u
h

[hollow zinc]

did they hire calamity devs or somethn

[last gull]

I'd believe it.

[copper coral]

hire the meac dev relogic please

[viral escarp]

they just put the sword qol mod out of the water

like fr

[copper coral]

make moon lord look like meac final EoL

[last gull]

meac?

[warm spindle]

I have one accessory slot left, should I use worm scarf or ankh shield?

[hollow zinc]

i had an idea for a terraria mod once called hardermode

[copper coral]

but do NOT make it play lindsey stirling please

[hollow zinc]

ankh shield

[last gull]

Depends on what other accessories are.

[copper coral]

a mod that adds probably the coolest bossfight i've seen

lemme find a video

[hollow zinc]

basically it was just the epitome of 12 year old me

[copper coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFlNOgmQCtw

[hollow zinc]

after golem (1.2 at the time) you’d fight the wall of steel and then basically repeat the game

[last gull]

Oh boy prim and shader hell

[copper coral]

oh yeah

[hollow zinc]

Wow that looks like an easy way to fry my pc

[last gull]

^

[copper coral]

this is like the most extreme the mod gets

[warm spindle]

berserker glove, fire gauntlet, mechanical glove, jetpack, shield of cthulhu, ambhibian boots, [worm scarf or ankh shield]

[copper coral]

but they made a ton of small weapon reworkds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcTvu_ibf2o

these are cool

[steady sierra]

Cake should give a perma until death buff like the others do now, IMO

[copper coral]

and some of them are more realistic for terraia

[hollow zinc]

ankh

[copper coral]

truee

[hollow zinc]

immunities are way better than the 17% damage reduction from worm scarf imo

[brittle drift]

Yo I just killed primatron

[steady sierra]

Does the grinding wheel do a permanent one either?

[copper coral]

worm scarf for most bosses

[hollow zinc]

(i dont remember if it’s 17%)

[brittle drift]

that's all three mecha-bosses

[copper coral]

ankh for non-bosses

17% DR is insane for bossfights but like

outside of them meh

[hollow zinc]

just dodge

[last gull]

ig that's neat.

[steady sierra]

Cuz if the sharpening wheel doesn't do a perma buff too it should as well

[copper coral]

it does now i think

[steady sierra]

Then cake really should

Also ideally multiple cake slices somehow. I want more cake

Lemme buy extra after the first time she gives it or something

[copper coral]

i didn't realize how much i appreciate games having "video game" music till i saw meac EoL

[warm spindle]

you can get one every party i believe

[copper coral]

cool fight

[last gull]

Kinda feel like permabuffs are cheating. Extend them from 10 min to 20 or something, ok, but until death seems like a long time.

[copper coral]

but the music is immersion breaking despite being a music synced boss

[steady sierra]

I believe its only the first one. And not really? There's no reason for them to be timed

[copper coral]

i mean... just place it and click again

[last gull]

Exactly.

[copper coral]

it's not hard to refresh even in a boss fight

so why bother making them refresh

[steady sierra]

^

[brittle drift]

yo this goofy goober red replaced the mechanical minecraft with the minecart upgrade kit so the fart kart could be used as normal 💀

[last gull]

Oh boy, first I've heard of this, time to go to wiki

[brittle drift]

it turns out you get the kart after using the item anyways

[last gull]

I feel like at that point, just add vanity minecart, instead.

[steady sierra]

Ooh that'd be nice

[ripe finch]

I mean isn’t that basically what he did?

[copper coral]

yeah

[sly vault]

can you plant hallow seeds over corrupt grass

[copper coral]

i think how it works is fine considering no minecart besides mech and molecart had any stat differences iirc

maybe one that can go in lava?

idr

[sly vault]

cause for some reason the grass didnt get converted so i have to wait for the hallow to spread over the corruption

[ripe finch]

You can enable and disable the extra effect through the equipment screen by clicking the little probe icon

[sly vault]

setting it invisible?

[copper coral]

hallow doesn't spread over corruption

and you can't replace without mining the blocks

[sly vault]

rip

[copper coral]

use holy water or purification powder

[sly vault]

does corruption spread over hallow

[copper coral]

no

[warm spindle]

I found a cute little bug, where can I send it?

[copper coral]

they just sit there

[sly vault]

the biome is hallow

but i want it more hallow cause it might stop npcs from moving in

[steady sierra]

Honestly I'd like a "summon" slot, to just auto summon the maximum you can on respawn/loading in/getting a buff or armor that let you summon more

[ripe finch]

Hallow biome can host NPC’s

[sly vault]

ik

im afraid the corruption spots might prevent npcs from moving in

[brittle drift]

uncrafting is such a great concept how did we live without this

[sly vault]

sgamod

[last gull]

1.3 had a deconstructor mod.
It, however, was actually balanced, because you didn't get 100% return on materials

[austere charm]

Brain of cthlulu stun locking me makes me violently angry.

I’m about to farm hoplite armor Just to resist knockback

[split vortex]

I finally got the night's edge

[sly vault]

sgamods thing also has that

[split vortex]

it's so cool

[austere charm]

Flark it, I’m gonna farm gladiator armor next time I play

[sly vault]

how do i fix this

without the clentaminator

[viscid sand]

You don't

[last gull]

Fix what?

[sly vault]

do i just have to dig in there and use holy water

[split vortex]

alright boys where would you guess that the aether biome is?

[sly vault]

the patches of ebonstone

(im a victim of bad hallow generation)

[last gull]

Demolition.

[viscid sand]

Lots of explosives and a lot of work remaking the terrain

[warm spindle]

how do i fix friend keep disconnecting from my terraria host

[sly vault]

now i have a use for my 295 bomb fish

[crimson light]

so like

how am i supposed to fight skeletron

when the old man is underground

with dungeon bricks behind him

[sly vault]

bring skeletron to the surface

[crimson light]

[split vortex]

alright where is the aether biome?

[last gull]

Look at wiki page

[viscid sand]

Some people bring him to the surface, I choose to dig out a large underground room

[last gull]

Has a very nice graphic for it

[wintry bolt]

terraria. opinions, anyone?

[sly vault]

bruh youve barely searched

[split vortex]

I know

[crimson light]

oh the problem isnt the arena

[sly vault]

a lot of people have it near the ocean

[crimson light]

i can make an underground arena

[sly vault]

near the top of the caverns layer

[crimson light]

the problem is the uh

[sly vault]

i have it that too

[crimson light]

dungeon bricks

behind the old man

i dont want to get sniped by a DG lmao

[last gull]

terraria. opinions, anyone?
eh, it's okay. (6.1k hours logged)

[split vortex]

this lady is being annoying, she will not move to where I want her to

[viscid sand]

I just dig out a large room, it's safe in there, just don't go lower

[last gull]

Needs to be nighttime or raining, and neither the NPC nor the new house can be onscreen

[fickle scarab]

Anyone have any seed recommendations?

[viscid sand]

"getfixedboi"

[last gull]

See "secret world seeds" section of wiki.

Pick anything that doesn't have effects from "the constant"

[crimson light]

hm

alright then

[sly vault]

k now im performing height lengthening surgery on my corruption to make it a better hallow

[crimson light]

for the worthy uhh remix seed?

[sly vault]

luckily dirt bombs exist so thatll make it easier

[golden bobcat]

getfixedboi

Very hard

[sly vault]

do the architect pack and chisel stack with the hand of creation

[feral orbit]

that I am curious about too

[last gull]

(Tried to post link, it got removed) Aw alright.

Try it and see.

[feral orbit]

has anyone else found their meteorite in the getfixedboi/zenith seed seemingly crashed underneath a floating island? Like, it seems like it game from the ground instead of the sky since there isn't a hole on it on the top

[civic swift]

nope, sadly

[opal shuttle]

it probably spawned inside the island, ive seen the same thing happen to living wood trees in normal seed small worlds

[feral orbit]

huh, guess that makes sense lmao

never seen that before

[split vortex]

who is this silly little guy?

[civic swift]

old shaking chest

[feral orbit]

open it

[last gull]

slime town npc

[split vortex]

I didn't have a key :(

[feral orbit]

it'll respawn, so don't have to worry about it too much

shows up on the lifeform analyzer

[split vortex]

he did, in fact, return

also found the shimmer biome!

[sly vault]

royal gel ftw!!!

[ashen schooner]

i nee a friend to jone me in my master mode ftw

[opal shuttle]

jone

[sly vault]

good thing 1.4 made dot debuffs not suck

[ashen schooner]

i nee a friend to jone me in my master mode ftw dm if posabla

[last gull]

#archive-ltp

[viscid sand]

Even though normal is easy and relaxing I feels so bad to go back to cause of only having 5 accessories and lacking all the fun accessories and mounts

[random valve]

fr

but hey thats why we have journey mode

[carmine slate]

What's the best reforge for bows

[viscid sand]

Unreal

[carmine slate]

Allright thx man

[viscid sand]

Sniper rifle with full crit accessories feels soo good to use

Like 94% crit chance

[ashen schooner]

i nee a friend to jone me in my master mode ftw dm if posabla

[carmine slate]

Omg

[sly vault]

sniper rifle pvp

[viscid sand]

Sniper rifle pvp is now obscenely broken with rod of harmony

[ocean anchor]

wow ok

[viscid sand]

Just full stealth and TP after every shot

First time I took out duke fishron was with a sniper rifle, it was satisfying

[split vortex]

is it possible to craft an angel statue?

[brittle drift]

does anyone know how to find life fruit well

[viscid sand]

I just run around the jungle with a spelunker potion

[drowsy thunder]

i cant see my friend in multiplayer mode, both on the map and on screen. his death messages dont appear as well. any known fixes?

[brittle drift]

can you see them with it

[viscid sand]

Yes

[ripe finch]

metal detector also finds them and theyre the highest valued item in the jungle

so basically that plus spelunker plus mining potion

[viscid sand]

Digging a lot of horizontal tunnels increases spawning space for them

[drifting hinge]

can you give me a world seed for 1.4.4.5 that has the water walking boots pls

[crimson light]

Sniper rifle pvp is now obscenely broken with rod of harmony*

[ripe finch]

all of them do if you fish up enough ocean crates

[drifting hinge]

yea i know

but

i need a fast solution

[split vortex]

aojfiqopfiuwhdfwqehfuiwqe

I JUST ACCIDENTALLY THREW AWAY LIKE 120 FALLEN STARS

[ripe finch]

just make new small worlds and magic conch to the ocean?

check both sides, if theyre not there, make a new world

[potent hatch]

Is there a standard way to find out what the latest Terraria server version is on Steam? I want to setup auto-update for my Linux server. We all play on PC. If there is a better channel for this question, let me know.

[molten grove]

how do i join the vc's?

[viscid sand]

If you are that impatient download an item world from the workshop

[potent hatch]

Did you use QuickTrash? They added option to disable that but unless they fixed it, it also disables QuickSell.

[brittle drift]

How do I check my seed

[molten grove]

someone wanna play on a fresh world?

[royal nexus]

how do i know if a part of my below surface layer has hallow/corruption? i alreaddy built a 4 wide trench but somehow i found hallowed grass

[viscid sand]

You don't, he's just wanting someone to do the work of searching for him

[drifting hinge]

first try btw

ty

[ripe finch]

😎

[brittle drift]

Getting lucky on your world is not a lot of work

[viscid sand]

Or you could just play the game on go get the items yourself cause it's not that hard to find them, it's widely know where to easily get them

[drifting hinge]

in a world whit 8 friends its to hard to find the items man

[viscid sand]

Then go fishing

Fishing is the best way to get extras and get more stuff

[drifting hinge]

vietnam remembers

in the past world i do this

[brittle drift]

You will get them in about 5 worlds if you search the 2 chests randomly

[molten grove]

anyone wanna go vc?

[fresh vale]

ill prob

if ya wnat

[molten grove]

bet

[alpine wedge]

Hi guys need help, I formatted my pc but my world and my character were saved on the computer, is there a way to recover them?

[molten grove]

what vc?

[fresh vale]

i guess

[viscid sand]

No, you would have had to have them as cloud saves

Formatting means all your local files are gone

[brittle drift]

If I see another pink circle after playing the no traps seed I'm gonna go insane

[winged hill]

anyone got spare hallow bars? I just barley dont have enough for hollow greaves and I dont got mech boss summons

[golden bobcat]

Try going into the files and see if your characters are still there, that’s what I did anyway

[brittle drift]

The double eye of cthulhu one is pretty cheap

[spark tendon]

Make more

[golden bobcat]

When I accidentally deleted my charecters

[brittle drift]

It's only 6 lead, 3 lenses, and 6 souls of light

[alpine wedge]

really? but there is no other way to recover?

[viscid sand]

Formatting means all files on the main drive are gone.

[winged hill]

I dont have the souls of light and I dont wanna grind-

[golden bobcat]

Ah

[alpine wedge]

but they were saved on the pc

[golden bobcat]

Hmmm

[viscid sand]

Nope. This is why unless your computer has a virus it's generally not recommended to ever format if you want to keep your files

[spark tendon]

You always have to grind

[sly vault]

i finished the biome change

[molten grove]

How do i get access to voice chats?

[sly vault]

need terrarian role

[sly vault]

i just gotta remove all the walls

[molten grove]

how do i get it?

[sly vault]

thats gonna take a while

[sly vault]

speaking

[knotty sorrel]

does anyone know how to get fish finder

[winged hill]

bro can you just help me out and give me like 16 bars

[golden bobcat]

Of what

[spark tendon]

Just go grind

[viscid sand]

Then you are playing the wrong game at the moment.

[alpine wedge]

hm ok, formatted because my windows was corrupted

tks

[spark tendon]

You need souls of light for a lot of stuff

[viscid sand]

That could have been fixed with an OS repair.

[sly vault]

should i use bombs/dynamite to remove the walls

[tall cliff]

does grappling still count as moving so chaos elementals can spawn?

[winged hill]

ok is everyone in this chat just a holes who wont give somebody 16 hollow bars

and just tell me to grind

like bruh

[spark tendon]

Yes

[spark tendon]

If you don't want to grind what are you doing playing terraria?

[fringe cave]

Is there a video for everything new in Terraria 1.4.4? Chippy doesn't seem to cover everything

[surreal tulip]

does anyone know how where you can get the ice golem to spawn in the remix/zenith seed

[winged hill]

trying to have fun

[sly vault]

bruh terraria is a super grindy game

[viscid sand]

Cause item begging is frowned upon. Like if you really don't want to work for it then download an item world

[sly vault]

especially for all the good shit

[alpine wedge]

yes sir, I tried different ways but I couldn't get it back.

[sly vault]

also its 16 hallowed bars

just kill a mech boss again

[spark tendon]

And having fun in terraria has grinding as a precondition

[sly vault]

you dont even have to grind that hard for 16 hallowed bars just kill a mech boss

[winged hill]

BRUH ITS LITERALLY 16 HOLLOW BARS and also I do wanna play legit so no

[spark tendon]

Just getting a few souls of light is incredibly easy

[sly vault]

just kill a mech boss

[winged hill]

I dont have summons thats why I would need to grind

[steady sierra]

Can you turn souls of light to souls of night/vice versa via Shimmer?

[sly vault]

bruh its a few souls of night and light

shouldnt take that long unless rng hates you

[trim ginkgo]

If you want to play legit why are you asking for someone else to give you items?

[spark tendon]

And there's no difference in getting stuff from someone else and cheating them in

[winged hill]

it does my grand total of souls is 8 with both mixed and I have grinded them before

[viscid sand]

You make an windows installation USB for the same version you have then instead of installing you use the repair option, if that doesn't work then the drive itself is most likely failing. Just for future reference.

[sly vault]

also pro tip: if youre building something in the hallow, equip royal gel

[steady sierra]

I have a BILLION souls of night farming for vitamins , so if I could turn some into light via shimmer it'd be...quite nice

[spark tendon]

Skill issue

[winged hill]

no rng issue

[random valve]

elaborate

[sly vault]

gastropods are slimes
royal gel makes slimes passive
gastropods wont annoy you

[random valve]

🤝

[spark tendon]

No, it's simply a difference in skill, just get spawn buffs and go grind

[tawdry plank]

What should I do early expert(Pre EoC)

[viscid sand]

Imagine spending all this time complaining no one will give you hallowed bars when you could have killed destroyer 10 times or more by now.

[winged hill]

T H A T S W H A T I D I D

[viscid sand]

[trim ginkgo]

I’d recommend farming in the underworld underneath the stripe of the biome you want souls from

[random valve]

on god bro

[spark tendon]

Did you stay down there for like 2 minutes?

You'd get way more

[winged hill]

I afk for about 5 min

come back

8 souls of light

[trim ginkgo]

To be fair sometimes souls are a pain to get a lot of

[spark tendon]

Maybe try to actively kill things around you?

[static marlin]

can someone help with moonlord

[random valve]

@winged hill You wont get anything from us nor will you even gain anything from arguing with us, so best to not waste ur time here and grind legitly if thats what you prefer or just download a damn item world

[viscid sand]

It takes a lot of work to make an efficient AFK farm, lots of digging and filling in

[winged hill]

-_-

[spark tendon]

You don’t need to fill anything if you dig enough

[winged hill]

fine

[random valve]

Khaois RoD farm be like

[tawdry plank]

What should I do early expert(Pre EoC)

[random valve]

Explore ur world n get surface accesories

[spark tendon]

Explore. Get stuff.

[random valve]

Also u should build a house at ur spawn area so u wont get spawnkilled at night

[tawdry plank]

That's what I'm trying to do but I'm surrounded by Corruption

[viscid sand]

Set up starter bases in every biom for getting pylons, make it to the ocean to get the angler and start fishing quests, set up fishing spots everywhere for fishing quests, gather all the herb seeds an start a farm for potions

Lots of early activities to do

[spark tendon]

Go caving

[hybrid spruce]

what did they fuck up with summoner this update?

[tawdry plank]

Yeah but I literally just made this world like 30ish minutes ago

So I get one shot by everything

[spark tendon]

What's going on?

[viscid sand]

Yeah so you carefully go caving

[hybrid spruce]

I'm just asking what got nerfed hard this update

[tawdry plank]

Golem got a buff

[viscid sand]

Obsidian armor got nerfed massively

[spark tendon]

Obsidian armor, blade staff, sanguine staff

[hybrid spruce]

no changes to whips or anything?

[spark tendon]

And all the speed whips

[brittle drift]

Do life fruits grow back if you mine them

[spark tendon]

But a lot of things got buffed too

[tawdry plank]

Terra Blade got buffed

[spark tendon]

I mean summoner stuff

[viscid sand]

More like it got reworked

[hybrid spruce]

well I'm wondering if I should go melee or summoner for a playthrough lmao

[spark tendon]

I'd say melee first

[tawdry plank]

It's projectiles are larger, that's what I meant

[spark tendon]

The melee changes are pretty big

[viscid sand]

Melee got the same treatment summoner got in early 1.4

[tawdry plank]

Instead of the little swords its big slashes now

[viscid sand]

Almost a complete rework

[spark tendon]

TNE got kinda nerfed though

[viscid sand]

Lmao what? It's way better now

[spark tendon]

Better at crowd control

On single target it isn't as good anymore

[sly vault]

k i have hallowed the corruption (dont mind the bottom left im gonna target that later)

[native current]

bros what's the new version that just got out?

[sly vault]

also this is without a clentaminator

[tawdry plank]

Nights Edge? I haven't played since about a month after 1.4 came out

[spark tendon]

True Night's Edge

[tawdry plank]

Oh ok

[viscid sand]

Then you should play summoner or melee, both got a massive rework

[tawdry plank]

It goes both ways

[viscid sand]

[tawdry plank]

Yeah I'm going Melee this playthrough

Now I must wait for Mage to get reworked

[viscid sand]

Good luck with caving carfully

[tawdry plank]

yes

[sly vault]

also im pretty sure the hallow does spread over corruption

cause it shows its spreading over the corruption walls

also i saw it convert some grass

[viscid sand]

Mage doesn't really need a rework, it already had the craziest and widest variety

[sly vault]

isnt mage the highest dps class

[viscid sand]

No

[sly vault]

why would you need a rework

[tawdry plank]

yeah but some stuff could get buffed and nerfed

[teal shoal]

anyone wanna get me terraria its fine if not

[viscid sand]

I mean mage is hives DPS in very specific conditions

[sly vault]

hives dps?

[viscid sand]

But generally Melee is highest DPS thanks to zenith

[sly vault]

im not counting zenith

im counting in general

[tawdry plank]

Based on the entire class?

[viscid sand]

In general that may be ranged

🤔

[elder ore]

clamity is soo fun

i love calamity

calamity goes so hard

i could say calamity all day

[tawdry plank]

depends if your good at it

I'm not

[sly vault]

🤨

what the fab doin

[royal nexus]

any tips for queen slime?

[elder ore]

anyone gonna get him it!?

[viscid sand]

Melee finally had the variety the other classes had and it feels much more satisfying to play.

[elder ore]

ANYONE!?

lol

[teal shoal]

its fine

lol

[tawdry plank]

can't sorry I'm broke

[sly vault]

is it that hard to spend $10

[teal shoal]

im also broke

[elder ore]

he could live in poverty

[teal shoal]

lol

[elder ore]

for all you know

he could live in africa

[viscid sand]

Item begging is bad enough, begging for a 10-spot is kinda cringe

[teal shoal]

not begging just asking

some ppl wanna spend there money

[ripe finch]

so, outside of "skill issue" reasons, why do i feel like its hard to just consistently kill the moon lord

[viscid sand]

Asking for someone to give you something is the definition of begging

[sly vault]

my strategy

very long skybridge

[ripe finch]

does his fight just suck that much

[elder ore]

because

he is annoying

[sly vault]

avoid the eyes

[elder ore]

and its

SKILL ISSUE

TEEHEEE

nah jp

[teal shoal]

i didnt ask a specific person silly

[sly vault]

the worst attacks for me for moon lord are the spheres and the bolts

[weak haven]

if you need the money because your parents won't let you use their credit card, the solution is to buy a steam card from 7-eleven or safeway or someplace like that

[sly vault]

cause i think the bolts predictive target you

[elder ore]

asking and begging are two diffrent things

begingis

[sly vault]

and the spheres just deal a shit ton of damage

[elder ore]

PSL PLS PLS PSL

asking is

[teal shoal]

fr

[elder ore]

yo can i have that chocolate bar bro

no

ok

[teal shoal]

korbev goat

[weak haven]

worst is the true EoC deathray

[teal shoal]

fax

[sly vault]

not really for me

for my strat with the skybridge

if youre running constantly you can just avoid the mini deathray

[ripe finch]

should i swap out my worm scarf for a star veil?

[sly vault]

it almost grazes you

[weak haven]

star veil is good for facetanking only

which is a viable strat to be fair

[ripe finch]

well consider my face tanking

[sly vault]

guys canb somegn bgaiureghbnalki4wrghnaehklibuaghnalehtae

[weak haven]

go for it only if you are all-warding

[elder ore]

what the

[ripe finch]

i am all menacing at the moment

[sly vault]

another tf2 update?

holy shit

[weak haven]

then star veil won't help very much

[warm spindle]

I hate queen bee in the upside-down seed

[sly vault]

the 1 dev is actually makign heav yhgbnvuyijgfbaegiuyakjhgbnraikw,gh

[tawdry plank]

Well I'm gonna get back to playing so goodbye

thanks for the help

[viscid sand]

Asking for others to give you something is begging. Demeaning graveling and annoyance is not required. It's just what the actual act of begging is. There is a reason people who ask for a bit of coin are called beggars.

[sly vault]

anyway what should i make my hallow houses out of

[elder ore]

nah because they ask about 10000 times

[sly vault]

should i use grey brick painted white for pearlstone

[elder ore]

thus begging

[sly vault]

and like a crystal block roof

[viscid sand]

That's not a requirement of begging. Seriously go read the definition.

[elder ore]

🤓

[sly vault]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/begging

[weak haven]

by your definition, actual people who beg on the streets are not beggars

[sly vault]

bruh

[hybrid spruce]

dawg

[viscid sand]

Not my fault you are ignorant

[royal nexus]

why do my spider summons stay in the ground instead of the platform i built when fighting queen slime?

[sly vault]

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/beg#English this one

[weak haven]

anyways, whatever, go get a steam card

[elder ore]

[sly vault]

@elder ore

[weak haven]

what's your problem

[elder ore]

you guys are being total nerd

[pallid kayak]

anyone got any tips for purifying my entire world? i managed to do all of the hallow but my crimson is stuck at 1%. i tried using TerraMap but nothing is coming up

[elder ore]

nerds*

[ripe finch]

alright im gonna swpa out my warriors emblem with a star veil and try again

[weak haven]

i find that many fights that are difficult with all menacing become easy when using all warding

when you die, take the total boss health and divide it by the amount of damage you actually dealt. that is how much you would have to improve your damage by to win next time

[sly vault]

imagine stone bombs

[viscid sand]

I use all menacing cause I prefer to learn the patterns to perfection, like fighting EoL on a broom

[weak haven]

it is much easier to halve the damage taken than to double the damage dealt

[viscid sand]

There is just something satisfying about becoming a god of the dodge

[simple cipher]

is format C good?

[sly vault]

why does helium moss brick look so light when covered with illuminant coating

[weak haven]

it's better than no yoyo at all

[simple cipher]

is it worth getting tho early hard mode?

is it any good against the mechs?

[weak haven]

uh, probably not

[viscid sand]

Are you doing yoyos only or general melee?

[simple cipher]

general melee

I am currently using nights edge

was thinking of trying like ice sickle

or frost brand

[viscid sand]

Then go for chain guillotine, flying knife, shadowflame knife, or obsidian swordfish

[weak haven]

honestly, night's edge is kinda slapping destroyer around

[viscid sand]

Obsidian swordfish is the best option as it will kill the clumped up destroyer in like 2 second

[ripe finch]

okay lol star veil worked

FACETANK MELEE LETS GOOOOOO

AND the trasure bag dropped the last two zenith blades for me

amen

[viscid sand]

Grats

Obsidian swordfish is the least likely melee most people will go for since it needs lava fishing and most people never touch that part of the game

[ripe finch]

its also post-hardmode right?

[viscid sand]

Well he's going for melee options for mech bosses

[weak haven]

yeah, but you are standing right next to lava pools the moment hardmode activates

[royal nexus]

is there a way to make berserker gloves in corruption?

[static marlin]

can someone help me with classic moon lord

[weak haven]

artificial crimson biome, hope for natural crimson mimics to spawn

[royal nexus]

oof

[viscid sand]

Buy crimson seeds from dryad in graveyard

Make a farm box underground, preferably out of marble or granite so you can clearly see the bounds of the box and don't break it

[royal nexus]

farm box? like the thing you showed me ysterday?

[viscid sand]

Yeah but like larger and completely encased in 3-4 block thick walls of blocks that can't be turned evil

So it's contained to just that box

[royal nexus]

i c

[weak haven]

if you get as much defense as possible he literally can't hurt you

[royal nexus]

wdym 3-4 block thick walls?

[weak haven]

i have 122 defense, testing in classic with this loadout

he can't damage me

[royal nexus]

like just literally 4 block walls?

[viscid sand]

Get some granite or marble and make a giant box 3-4 blocks thick

[royal nexus]

ahhh

[viscid sand]

Then fill the inside with stone, dirt, grass, and an artificial lake

Cause fishing is important

[weak haven]

i am literally trying to run into his lasers as much as possible and it is impossible to die

[royal nexus]

about how big of a box?

just big in general?

[viscid sand]

At least 10-20 blocks larger than the edge of your screen on all sides

That's a good size

Good thing explosives exist for the digging

[royal nexus]

cavern or underground?

or doesnt matter

[viscid sand]

Cavern

Cause you want mimics

[warm spindle]

ive never seen this thing in my whole life

[royal nexus]

the dryad will only sell the seeds in bloodmoon?

[viscid sand]

No

For the opposite evil of your world you need a graveyard biome

[royal nexus]

weird

[viscid sand]

Make a house surrounded by tombstones

[royal nexus]

i just place a shitton of tombstones right?

and it gets dreary

[viscid sand]

Yep

[royal nexus]

shes not selling em

[viscid sand]

Various NPCs will sell different things

[royal nexus]

nvm just took a bit to update

[viscid sand]

It's best to make a dedicated graveyard house for slotting in the various NPCs that have special stuff to sell

[royal nexus]

i c

[dreamy thistle]

Why cant i join pedguins server i went to multiplayer and pedguingames.fun and it did nothing
anyone know why?

[royal nexus]

where do i get marble

[viscid sand]

Marble biome

[dreamy thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-troll-face-depressed-trollface-gif-25126675

[dreamy thistle]

cavern they spawn as mini bioms in the caverns

[royal nexus]

a h

can i just use stone as walls?

[dreamy thistle]

for what?

[royal nexus]

crimson farm

[dreamy thistle]

no

[viscid sand]

No, it needs to be something that can't be corrupted if you want to keep it contained

[royal nexus]

i c

[viscid sand]

And it's best to use a wall you can easily see

[royal nexus]

time to go marble hunting

[dreamy thistle]

but you can if you use vicious powder on it after you place it

hey Ryoku

do you know why i cant join pedguins server?

did it get taken down or something?

i did all the steps but nothing happend

[viscid sand]

You can use wood, snow, bungeon bricks, anything that can't be corrupted or crimsoned @royal nexus

[royal nexus]

wood cant be corrupted?

pog

i can just make a new world and steal from that

[viscid sand]

REPLANT YOUR TREES

[dreamy thistle]

bruh is it against the rules to talk about it? ;(

[viscid sand]

Is pedguin still a thing?

🤔

[ripe finch]

axe of regrowth 😎

[dreamy thistle]

i see videos of people joining his server in 1.4

[royal nexus]

i do

i still keep running out

[viscid sand]

1.4 or 1.4.4? Huge difference

[dreamy thistle]

yes

even in 1.4 i couldnt

[sly vault]

no

he hasnt made a video about terraria in 2 years

[viscid sand]

That's what I thought

[sly vault]

also he fell off

[viscid sand]

So this guy is just confused

[sly vault]

almost 400k subs and around 10-30k views per video now

[viscid sand]

[sly vault]

he does still make videos though

[viscid sand]

I personally don't get the appeal of large public servers, you are basically limited to only fishing for everything if it's a normal game or stupid nonsense is always going on if it's not a normal server

It's just not my cup of tea

[sly vault]

pvp servers

or just anarchy

[weak haven]

master mode was the worst thing introduced for the public server scene

because the server owners just assume everyone wants to play on master mode

[viscid sand]

PvP is cancer in terraria

[weak haven]

possibly FTW as well

[sly vault]

me when i go stealth mode and massacre the server with the sniper rifle

[weak haven]

there isn't a single good public server with a vanilla like experience right now

[brittle drift]

it's only playable if players have very early game weapons that aren't bs like bows and swords

[viscid sand]

I don't even like playing with others in small groups or duo cause my faith in people won't progress without you, cheat, or only want to rush the game is basically crushed I to the ground

[brittle drift]

I think it would've been better if items were world specific

[royal nexus]

i may have been killed by my own dynamite

[brittle drift]

it feels like an old remanent of terraria being a game about using one character per person

[viscid sand]

The slow methodical playstyle doesn't mesh well with most people who are looking to play with others

[royal nexus]

@viscid sand any biome works fine right cuz i didnt realize i was building it in a desert caverns

[edgy kite]

Has anyone ever done a full playthrough on the not the bees seed? lol

[brittle drift]

is the jungle on zenith seed bees

[viscid sand]

Not the bees is all over zenith seed

[edgy kite]

Yeah but I'm not talking about zenith though

[viscid sand]

Lots of random queen bee spanwers, lots of random hives and crispy honey

[edgy kite]

Not the bees on it's own seems fun

[viscid sand]

He was asking

[brittle drift]

not the bees seems more annoying but at least it’s special

unlike the no traps seed

(why did I start a playthrough on this seed)

it’s so boring without the fear of traps

[low olive]

hi

[potent hatch]

Anyone know how to get the latest available Terraria version via a Steam API or such?

[low olive]

it should just automatically update

[edgy kite]

But it adds more traps though lol

[low olive]

idk whats wrong

[potent hatch]

It's for my Linux server so I can know when there is an update so I can implement an auto-update.

[sly vault]

finally i have a space to build my hallow houses

[royal nexus]

do i need to blow out the walls as well?

[sly vault]

for what

[brittle drift]

No it doesn't... I'm pre plantera and I haven't seen one

[royal nexus]

ugh

ryukos farm

crimson farm rather

[viscid sand]

You just need space to build an artificial evil in a box

Background walls don't matter

[civic swift]

perfect place for a water chest

[brittle drift]

when do you guys stop using cthulhu's shield

[civic swift]

post plantera

[last gull]

Depends

If I have equipment for MNG, then yeah, post-plant.
Shield dash is very good though

[viscid sand]

When hard mode starts and I start switching to using mounts for all my movement

[sly vault]

what if there used to be water there

[brittle drift]

that's pretty pro

[civic swift]

before what?

[sly vault]

the great

[brittle drift]

I only use mounts for worm bosses and getting around the world sometimes but I probably should use them more

[sly vault]

lake unexisting

there used to be a small lake there and it evaporated

[vast cargo]

queen slime mount is a verified boss destroyer

try it

[royal nexus]

can i send you screenshots if my box is big enough?

[last gull]

QS mount is fine. Not something to write home about imo

[vast cargo]

it's a great mount for when you can get it

removes the need for wings until you get a good pair

[split vortex]

can you get water walking boots via fishing?

[last gull]

Arguably, so is the Shrimpy Truffle

Also yes

Ocean crates have a small chance to drop Water Walking Boots

[vast cargo]

i have gone queen slime, get the mount, straight into fishron and the mount carries me through the fight

unbelievable usability for a mount available at the start of hardmode

[edgy kite]

I think I'm only really interested in the constant seed, or the remix seed, the others don't seem that great to me

[vast cargo]

maybe shrimpy truffle is better later but jesus queen slime mount makes life so much easier

[last gull]

Constant seed is some ass, I actively recommend against it.

[vast cargo]

^

[sly vault]

bruh i tried taking a hyper large image with camera mode to see what would happen then i realized it just divides it into parts

[viscid sand]

It does take some practice but not having to use 3 or more accessories dedicated to movement and freeing up a lot more for defense or offense is really nice

[vast cargo]

no traps is hilarious

[brittle drift]

wouldn

t it be cool if you could cycle through items vertically

[frail crane]

Anyone looking for a builder?

[brittle drift]

maybe shift + a number

[last gull]

No please don't give them that idea, they'll actually implement it and then you'll never be able to scroll through your inventory normally again

[fiery heart]

so apperentally, the remix seed is able to effect blocks outside of the map when hallowing them, so far out the terraformer cant reliably hit them

[brittle drift]

how do you scroll through it normally

[zinc egret]

honestly, i generally dont go for the shrimpy truffle but rather the witches broom mount instead

[last gull]

*hotbar, I meant hotbar

[sly vault]

hotbar or mouse

[frail crane]

Anyone want a builder?

[sly vault]

no

[fair reef]

can you get abigails flower in the underground forest in the getfixedboi seed?

[last gull]

Truffle is available immediately in HM, broomstick is a fine mount though

[brittle drift]

no but that gives me a different control idea

[zinc egret]

i mean its much more consistent and i dont have to rely on rng of killing fishron for the weapon i desire

[brittle drift]

you'd hold shift and scroll through your items vertically

[viscid sand]

You can get it anywhere there is a kind of grass and a tombstone

[last gull]

Truffle is guaranteed drop??

[viscid sand]

So yes

[split vortex]

thanks, btw what's the best pre hm fishing rode

[brittle drift]

or control

[fair reef]

wiki says only surface and space

[split vortex]

the boots are the last part for terraspark boots pre hm and I want to get it

[fair reef]

but the surface is technically underground kinda

[zinc egret]

yea, but i am not fond of having to flood my world with water to for optimal usage of a mount

[copper coral]

it works on ash grass too as of last patch on pc

[brittle drift]

mechanic rod

[copper coral]

So it def works on remix in underworld I think

[last gull]

I mean, infinite flight though

[split vortex]

thanks a lot

[copper coral]

assuming you're one 1.4.4.5

[viscid sand]

Ignore the wiki, i have like 20 Abigail's flowers on the Zenith seed

I die a lot

lol

[last gull]

Sell them?

[split vortex]

new night's edge is so cool

[royal nexus]

i might have made too big of a hole

dynamite is so fun

[zinc egret]

i know but it sounds kinda slow

[split vortex]

what condition does it have to be for her to sell the rod?

[last gull]

It's not slow

[royal nexus]

@viscid sand can i send u a dm for the screenshtos of the hole?

[viscid sand]

Sure

I'll show you one of my old ones when I get home

[split vortex]

is it a blood moon?

[viscid sand]

Though I'm having a problem with my DMs and some of them aren't coming through for like 4 or 5 days

[brittle drift]

there is an angler, and it is one of the moon phases

[royal nexus]

weird

[brittle drift]

just wait until it shows up

there are a few it can be

[split vortex]

ok

thanks

[last gull]

Go for golden fishing rod smh

[split vortex]

I have never legitemately obtained the golden rod

[last gull]

:|

[split vortex]

what? it's hard to get

[last gull]

It's pretty okay

[split vortex]

isn't it 50 angler quests?

[last gull]

30

[split vortex]

not as bad as I thought

still annoying though

[brittle drift]

has anyone else noticed that you cant quick stack to nearby chests fallen stars

I assume it's because of the animation and they can't be out in the day

but it drives me crazy

[civic swift]

works for me just fine

[last gull]

You totally can

[brittle drift]

Maybe my game's bugged

[last gull]

Would love to see animation removed though, so yes, please make that happen more

[copper coral]

they actually can be when in the process of being picked up and whatnot

[civic swift]

and its not actually out, just a visual indicator

[split vortex]

is there an ocean pylon?

[last gull]

Yes

[royal nexus]

conch

[last gull]

That also

[brittle drift]

has anyone had any use out of loadouts?

[ripe finch]

fishing :)

[split vortex]

yes but I find the underground desert annoying so I'd rather ignore it and just use the pylon

[last gull]

Aside from swapping from dps to tank build to cheese bosses you mean?

[brittle drift]

it's a great concept but the lack of sharing accessories with a favourite or something makes it pretty useless imo

they'll probably fix that though

[brittle drift]

yeah probably

[ripe finch]

also damn do i really wanna do the "and good riddance" achievement

[royal nexus]

underground desert post hardmode is so damn annoying

[last gull]

"loadout" swap either needs to be removed, or needs a 20-30 second cooldown to stop people from cheesing.

[civic swift]

why?

[ripe finch]

you can already cheese by manually swapping your items out

[copper mountain]

i feel so good after crafting nights edge

[copper coral]

autopause exists

I don't think loadouts are at all OP

[last gull]

If you're using autopause, sure, but it throws server balance

[copper coral]

they're just nice to have

[brittle drift]

does anyone here prefer autopause

[ripe finch]

autopause is a huge meme

[copper coral]

I use it sometimes if I need to hotswap an accessory

[brittle drift]

I like it when exploring so you don’t have to rush inventory management

[royal nexus]

how annoying is ankh shield to farm for?

[civic swift]

not very

[last gull]

It's not

[brittle drift]

but it’s annoying at home

[royal nexus]

oh

[copper coral]

Especially with shimmer it's not very annoying

[brittle drift]

A little bit if you’re unlucky but shimmer makes it more like a fun scavenger hunt

[last gull]

Oh yeah, liquid. It's easy now

0 problems

[copper coral]

without shimmer the Nazar was so not fun to farm for if you didn't get it before plantera

but now that's not even an issue

[royal nexus]

time to look for shimmer

[brittle drift]

uncrafting is a great mechanic

for when you accidentally do something

downgrading ores is annoying for when you accidentally do it but I could see it being useful sometimes

I’d prefer if it swapped ore to opposite world type so you could do it before the clorophyte thing

[copper coral]

downgrading ores is so useful for making chlorophyte bullets post ml

[last gull]

It's good in concept, poor in execution imo.
I won't say that it should be allowed to be exploited, but the way said exploits were removed are kinda sad, and some things you can't uncraft, because they actually turn into other things, which could have been done at graveyard or smth

[brittle drift]

what types of things can’t you uncrsft

[sly vault]

i managed to lose all of my ~80 crystal shards

[split vortex]

which NPCs should you use for the ocean pylon?

[sly vault]

i pressed quick stack to nearby chests and it got put in a random chest in my chest room

[copper coral]

any of the 242 shimmer recipes or any item blacklisted from uncrafting

[brittle drift]

I just used an all items seed to get my ore back when I didn’t realize what it did and trashed what I got from it (200 stone)

[sly vault]

needle in a haystack

[vagrant tide]

can the truffle move in prehardmode if you have all the requirments

[copper coral]

timers are blacklisted for example

[last gull]

242 items, that's more than I thought it was

[brittle drift]

what’s one that really annoys you

[copper coral]

none

[split vortex]

just earlier I lost 120 fallen stars😭

[brittle drift]

what so fallen stars do

[weak haven]

i can't un-grill a squirrel

[last gull]

Timers and Copper Tools are the most annoying thing imo. Should have just increased shop* price instead of making them unable to be un-crafted

[sly vault]

alright but why copper tools

oh

the merchant

[last gull]

Because you could buy from merchant, decompose into copper bars and wood, and get infinite money

Very

very slowly

[sly vault]

bruh theres another exploit with the merchant

buy torches and anvils

uncraft the anvils

craft glass kilns

and sell those

[brittle drift]

just make a farm for infinite money

[last gull]

torhces turn into other torches

Oh, wait do kilns sell for a lot?

[vagrant tide]

anyone?

[sly vault]

no you dont do anything with the torches

[brittle drift]

I don’t think so

[sly vault]

yeah i guess

[split vortex]

the better exploit used to be the mechanic but now they're both removed so who cares?

[last gull]

I do, actually

Would have been a good way to get building materials in bulk

Without destroying a world for them

Or fishing for 10 hours

[weak haven]

adding copper tools to the list was ugh, just reduce bar sell price

[last gull]

^^^

Literally what I'm saying

[civic swift]

I really hope they keep ale/mugs decraftable

[last gull]

Same

But you KNOW it's getting removed soon enough

[civic swift]

theres no infinite money exploit, but getting mass amounts of glass/sand is so nice

[weak haven]

it's 1 silver for 1 glass

[split vortex]

what npcs should yo use for beach pylon? angler and what else

[weak haven]

terrible deal if you're not swimming in money

[weak haven]

stylist

[split vortex]

when is she unlocked?

[copper coral]

yeah but you don't have to mine sand now so worth

[last gull]

ingame economy is screwed anyway

[weak haven]

any time if you can find her in a spider cave

[shadow token]

Nurse and arms dealer

[split vortex]

ok I know where some of those are so it's time for the waiting game

[civic swift]

1 platinum for a full stack of glass, sounds like a good deal to me

[last gull]

some 13 gold from qb, there's a whole stack and a half of glass for you.

[copper coral]

Honestly true

[split vortex]

that's the desert pylon

[weak haven]

and the copper tools don't stack

[copper coral]

I also don't know how I feel about all torches being aether torches

[last gull]

It makes sense

[shadow token]

They can get any pylon besides snow

[brittle drift]

the guide should be the one selling copper tools

[copper coral]

it does

[civic swift]

would have been a nice way to farm jungle spores

[last gull]

I'm a little disgruntled, but I can't disagree with their course of action there

[copper coral]

but man it was nice being able to get sand from desert torches

yesht

[split vortex]

well that's pretty neat

[tame python]

how do i safely use the denoator

[sly vault]

where tf could have i put my crystal shards

[brittle drift]

use wires

[weak haven]

click it, don't step on it

[sly vault]

i know i didnt trash them

but theyre gone

nowhere

poof

[weak haven]

if you can see where the explosive is, stand opposite to it

[copper coral]

i was also sad hellfire arrows made shimmer arrows but I mean, that's a huge progression break otherwise lol

[last gull]

lol frfr

[sly vault]

wish there was something that would tell you what items were in your chests

[split vortex]

these two idiots decided that rather than moving into their knew homes they would walk into shimmer

[last gull]

Also means there's still no way to get more hellstone

[copper coral]

actually or they could have just made it not give back all the bars

[last gull]

^ lower than 100% returns

[copper coral]

yeah cobalt should have become hellstone imo

[tame python]

umm

why is my worth upside down

[copper coral]

they did lower than 100% returns for potions

bc alchemy table

[tame python]

how do i change it back

[weak haven]

press up

[tame python]

ty

[last gull]

Yeah, but they totally could have done that for more items, instead of semi-arbitrarily blacklisting items

[copper coral]

I also don't like how mana and HP potions are not decraftable

[last gull]

Same

[copper coral]

i get like

lesser HP and mana

[split vortex]

it's because the merchant sells them

[copper coral]

but why the craftable ones that don't get sold

[last gull]

That was my first inclination, for bottles P:

[brittle drift]

mimic progression break

[split vortex]

oh you mean the normal ones?

[sly vault]

oh

my dumbass forgot

[copper coral]

wait how

[sly vault]

i crafted all my crystal shards into bullets

[brittle drift]

get the souls before mechanical bosses

[copper coral]

oh the potions use souls

[last gull]

Greater potions only drop from Biome Mimics in Hardmode though??

[brittle drift]

with greaters from mimics

[copper coral]

tbh just nerf mimic potion drops

[low olive]

anyone wanna play fresh start with me

[shadow token]

#archive-ltp

[tame python]

when i die i only lose money right

[copper coral]

yeah but they can be killed pre mech

[tame python]

becuase i swear i had a magic mirror and now i cant find it

[shadow token]

Depends on what you set your character to

[last gull]

They don't use mech souls

[split vortex]

yes, but you could farm them, decraft the potions, get the drax prior to the intended time and fight the mechs with chlorophyte gear

[tame python]

wdym

[brittle drift]

Time for another fun session in Terrariums

[shadow token]

When you make a character you can select journey, classic, mediumcore or hardcore

[last gull]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Greater_Healing_Potion
none of the healing nor mana potions use mech souls, and you definitely don't get hallowed bars from any of them

Biome Mimics are hardmode anyway, so you only get hardmode materials in hardmode

[brittle drift]

I guess I was smoking 💀💀💀

[tame python]

classic

[last gull]

Y'all are some 35km in the air or smth

[brittle drift]

confused it for the pillar things in super potions

[copper coral]

nice

I didn't think they used souls

but I didn't know for sure

[shadow token]

Then you only drop coins

[last gull]

Super Healing Potions are only crafted, so no way for them to be exploited

[copper coral]

yeah

I'd love being able to get easier pixie dust from farming enemies

[last gull]

And even if they weren't, you can't USE the frags until after cultist

[split vortex]

yeah I forgot that, so then why are they blacklisted then?

[last gull]

Relogic

[copper coral]

bc relogic wanted to

[civic swift]

me when moon lord

[copper coral]

I need to go through and update my shimmer stuff now

it's all from 1.4.4

and so much has changed

[last gull]

Oh wait does moon lord drop super heals now?

[civic swift]

if by now you mean for the last two and a half years

[brittle drift]

It was added in 1.4.0.1

[last gull]

I never get the potions from boss fights I wouldn't know. Everyone else always grabs them XD

[civic swift]

lol

[daring glen]

I play solo so I wouldn’t know the pain

[sly vault]

he also drops coins now

they fixed him not dropping coins in expert

[last gull]

That much I know, bags are some 2 plat or something

[sly vault]

yeah

2.50 plat

[modest canyon]

Worldgen 👍 https://imgur.com/a/9KGp2YL

[last gull]

haha, amazing

[modest canyon]

I guess I'll just remove it using teedit

[last gull]

Was that hole next to the dungeon a shrine hole?

Or one you dug?

[modest canyon]

Hole I dug

[last gull]

Ah

[gleaming ruin]

Did they nerf regeneration? I feel like I just don't regen health much

[velvet vault]

How the heck did the dungeon spawn in Crimson?

[stone sparrow]

whats the best armor i can get before any boss

[last gull]

Valhalla armour regen was nerfed, if you're using that

[gleaming ruin]

I mean base regen

[brittle drift]

You gotta used the ambrosia

[gleaming ruin]

I have no regen boosting stuff

[modest canyon]

I mean it was a small world but I didnt think it would be that small

[brittle drift]

It’s like how you start with -4 defense now so that the life fruit shimmer is useful

(you don’t really and I don’t know if you regen less)

[last gull]

Doesn't look like base regen was changed

[blissful root]

Anyone tryna play

[last gull]

#archive-ltp

whats the best armor i can get before any boss
What class are you planning to play as?

[gleaming ruin]

hm. wierd. I sat there in a chair next to a campfire for at least 5 minutes and my health only got up to 230 hp

[last gull]

Jungle and Ancient Cobalt armour are a decent mage start, Fossil armour for ranged, flinx for summoners, or kinda literally anything for melee.