terraria-pc

[scenic cliff]

Or guarenteed drop from dungeon slimes

[solemn onyx]

Oh if you mean the golden chests yeah

[lofty quartz]

that is heart breaking

[solemn onyx]

Random drop from enemies and pots, guaranteed from dungeon slimes

[lofty quartz]

i haven’t seen any slimes

[solemn onyx]

Also guaranteed in wooden chests in the dungeon

Just kill enemies, you’ll get the golden keys to drop. It’s not 1/2500 for golden keys

There are special chests in there that require very rare keys but can only be opened later

Just a background object

Doesn’t do anything

[warm spindle]

i broke it

Yo umm

wait can i find titanium in the jungle

[merry belfry]

anybody need any items or help?

[solemn onyx]

yes, you can

[sturdy viper]

zenith xd

[merry belfry]

ok

whats your steam

[merry belfry]

??

[balmy pewter]

I do -_- im kinda new

[merry belfry]

what do u need

[balmy pewter]

Mostly anything my best thing is a gold pick

[merry belfry]

ok whats your steam

[merry yoke]

Pickaxe axe fr

[balmy pewter]

Mythic

[sturdy viper]

otakuqliao777

[merry belfry]

sorry but im helping mcgato since he sent his full steam

[balmy pewter]

that is my full steam ok -_-

[merry belfry]

so many people have the name so ill help u once im done with him

[balmy pewter]

ok

[lavish creek]

Guys anyone wanna play?

Im about to create a server :)

[merry yoke]

should i play bedwars on minecraft or try kill sketetron prime

[warm spindle]

could someone give me a brick layer and a measuring tool?

[merry yoke]

Tf is a brick layer

[wicked dock]

U already have the ruler function

[woven crow]

hai, is there a way to make custom sprites for furniture for the game?

[warm spindle]

what

how

[warm spindle]

blocks place faster

[stone mist]

i was trying to open a chest but a cat was in front of it

so i tried going away so it would move

and then it slept in front of the chest

[merry yoke]

oh

i dont have one anyways

[warm spindle]

all g

im makin a house

and its slow

[merry yoke]

ohh alr

show me when ur done yeah

[warm spindle]

it has a big ass pool

its funny asf

[merry yoke]

idk how people build nice houses in 2d

[warm spindle]

im not very good at it

i just started playing pc terraria

its way better than console

[faint zinc]

to think that itens like the cellphone and terraspark boots are pre-hardmode yet a lot of people only get it late hardmode

[grim saffron]

algm br?

[faint zinc]

vai pro server br

[grim saffron]

tem?

[faint zinc]

ss

[warm spindle]

the cellphone is pre?

[faint zinc]

yes

[grim saffron]

agr q eu achei

[faint zinc]

im almost making it pre hardmode

[rustic totem]

is it better if i wear full turtle and chlor helm or just full turtle for golem

[faint zinc]

turtle it think

[paper tangle]

full turtle, its golem you dont even need armor

[rustic totem]

ok

can someone tell me if my setup is good for golem

So i have fire gauntlet + the lightning boots + avenger emblem + full turtle + terra blade

[faint zinc]

yes

its good

god im angry

[rustic totem]

Why

[faint zinc]

i need the obsidian rose to make the terra spark boots

its a 2% drop from fire imps

i got a item that is 0.4% drop from fire imps

but no rose

[rustic totem]

i think i have it

the rose

[faint zinc]

i mean you kinda advanced

im pre hardmode

[rustic totem]

no i aint

[faint zinc]

you said golem

[rustic totem]

i been in game for 3 days

yeah

[faint zinc]

its pretty advanced

[rustic totem]

i played for 3 days

you need help killing wall of flesh or what?

[faint zinc]

nope

just too scared of pre hardmode

[rustic totem]

u mean hardmode

[faint zinc]

yes

[rustic totem]

so

u said my setup is good

can i just rush it with the gear i have

[faint zinc]

yes

probably

[paper tangle]

terraspark boots 🤮

[rustic totem]

or will i get shattered

[faint zinc]

also

i forgot what i was gonna say

[faint zinc]

did i write it wrong?

[rustic totem]

xeno

u agree that i can just rush golem?

[faint zinc]

i think you can

[paper tangle]

you wrote it correct, they're just kind of pointless

[paper tangle]

what you got rn

[faint zinc]

i dont think

[rustic totem]

..

[paper tangle]

sounds good enough

terrablade is better when you spam

isntead of holding

so do that and good luck

[faint zinc]

i mean 7 second lava immunity a lot of speed extra flight(can help you a lot before empress of light) you move easier on ice and can walk on water and lava

doenst seem pointless to me

[paper tangle]

walking on liquids is useless and speed and jump speed are unchanged from frostspark

(just get amphibian boots the spectre boots upgrade line sucks)

[rustic totem]

ty bro

[paper tangle]

with good rng you can get them in <1hour

[faint zinc]

you have your opinion i have mine so bye

[wicked dock]

Amp boots aren't hard to get

[faint zinc]

i didnt say that they are

[warm spindle]

bro what the fuck is that pfp

[paper tangle]

im aware just had bad rng getting them

[paper tangle]

good question

[rustic totem]

just spawned solar exlipse and test out terra blade

so op

[civic swift]

when the quality of life is useless (fighting bosses is the only thing that matters)

[paper tangle]

oh yeah making frostspark is kind of a waste too

[warm spindle]

bro

[solemn onyx]

even when fighting bosses, lavawalking has utility in arena building

stopping enemy spawns

[paper tangle]

good luck getting terraspark pre hm

[paper tangle]

what

[civic swift]

I mean I do it every time, lol

[wicked dock]

I mean
That's when most get it

[faint zinc]

the angler better give me the sextant otherwise he will leave by lava

[wicked dock]

I don't specifically grind for terraspark
If I get a Lava charm then I do but otherwise I go for frostspark

[paper tangle]

by the time you get terraspark pre hm you will be like post plantera

[civic swift]

of course

[faint zinc]

good rng bro

[civic swift]

After spending 100 hours in pre hardmode I was post moon lord

[faint zinc]

its not that hard

just have good rng

i mean i like fishing so

i got lava charm by fishing at hell

got actually most terraspark itens that you can get fishing by fishing

[wicked dock]

I only fished alot in my first world
Haven't done so in my other playthroughs tho

[paper tangle]

and you can get 1 fishing drop which is frog leg and make boots that are 50 times better

[faint zinc]

what

[warm spindle]

anyone want to join me in a world and help me. i am about to kill plant thing. if u want dm me

[paper tangle]

no effort required

[civic swift]

*for bossfights

[faint zinc]

exactly

[paper tangle]

nothing else matters

[faint zinc]

what?

[wicked dock]

Amphibian boots are great
Thing is in certain boss fights and in overall exploration terraspark >>>

[paper tangle]

its not like youre paralyzed when you were any other boots

lmfao

[faint zinc]

im not saying that

[civic swift]

Exactly, thats what I've always said, nothing else to do in terraria but fight bosses

[faint zinc]

i just said that i prefer terraspark

[wicked dock]

[faint zinc]

just gonna stop talking to him

so

[civic swift]

👍

[faint zinc]

i just need sextant for cellphone

but the child refuses to give me it

[civic swift]

Man.

[faint zinc]

i got golden net

[wicked dock]

I prefer lightning boots+ over Amp tbh
I hardly need the extra jump mobility and I think the extra flight is better in most cases
Dk what else to say

[faint zinc]

golden fishing rod

[faint zinc]

true

why jump when you can fly

[paper tangle]

the jump speed buff gives you more flighttime

you ascend like x2 faster

with wings

[faint zinc]

why dont use both bro

[wicked dock]

That's stupid

[paper tangle]

it doesnt matter even if your wings are shit

you just shoot into the moon instantly

[wicked dock]

Okay

[paper tangle]

kind of a waste of an accessory slot

[warm spindle]

bro

[paper tangle]

you can just spam shit for dps and youre golden

[faint zinc]

so

im scared to go in hardmode and have corruption and hallow take my world

dunno why

[main wave]

just waiting for these pumpkins to grow so i can make a medalion

[faint zinc]

im scared anyway

[main wave]

and get one of the swords for zenith

its the last one i need

[faint zinc]

NICE

[wicked dock]

It's not too big of a deal
It does suck mainly since it cuts through your world and is impossible to contain completely

[faint zinc]

like i've made a small world just to fish there to gather hardmode ores

im gonna kill wof whit full titanium

[wicked dock]

...

[hidden depot]

anyone knows how to make grey bricks?

[wicked dock]

Which mode are you playing?

[wicked dock]

2 stone in a furnace

[faint zinc]

i play expert

but this other world is classic

[paper tangle]

wtf is the point

might as well cheat zenith in

[faint zinc]

??

what

thats totally different

[wicked dock]

I mean
Ur worried about the hardmode biomes
Not the wof fight right

[faint zinc]

yep

[paper tangle]

both weapons are out of your progress stage

no difference

[faint zinc]

i said the kill wof in titatium as a joke

[wicked dock]

If u fight wof with titanium gear, won't stop the hardmode spread

[paper tangle]

cant let the game become too difficult in expert 🥶

[faint zinc]

i think im gonna block him

[wheat jay]

what is the best class in the game

[faint zinc]

melee cause zenith

but if you wanna go other things you can go

zenith is endgame so

[paper tangle]

pls tell me youre joking

[faint zinc]

i mean i guess its melee cause of zenith

[paper tangle]

you literally get it after the games over 😭

[faint zinc]

that what i said

if we talk endgame its zenith

[paper tangle]

then how does that make it the best

[faint zinc]

cause at endgame its the best

thats what i said

[paper tangle]

summoner is the best to answer the dude's question

[faint zinc]

i guess so

havent played summoner

so cant say anything

[wicked dock]

Subjective

But it's mainly ranged
It's good all throughout the game

[wheat jay]

i don't think melee is good compared to other classes
like all the weapons are boring
And the zenith makes it more boring cuz it's too op and it's obtainable post moonlord

in a phase of the game that u don't play that much cuz u finished tha game

sry for my bad grammer

[wicked dock]

And nobody can deny that

[faint zinc]

oh in that meaning i dont know

[paper tangle]

ranged is a good no. 1 competitor

[faint zinc]

in strength its melee if you consider endgame

but as pryoxidic said its subjective

[wheat jay]

when u guys say ranger do you mean bows or gunns or both ?

[faint zinc]

yes

ranged as a full

as a whole

[paper tangle]

ranged as "ranged damage"

[tepid ether]

ranged my opinion

[lean plank]

Got finished off by a hellbat while trying to defeat wall of flesh

:/

[weary aurora]

oof

hmmm deadly sphere staff? or tempest staff as a 'supplementary' summon for a ranger?

[vale nacelle]

I think tempest better

[paper tangle]

both are shit

[weary aurora]

ic ic

[spark tendon]

All the classes are good

[weary aurora]

oh? then what would you use pre-golem???

[spark tendon]

They are fit for different playstyles

[paper tangle]

sanguine

[weary aurora]

except melee, melee sucks 😛

[paper tangle]

at least it hits enemies

and sphere staff will only lower your dps

[weary aurora]

the game refuses to let me kill a nautilus

[spark tendon]

Raven

[civic swift]

hurb

[paper tangle]

because it pierces and gives the enemy more i-frames

[rustic totem]

whats the next step after the martian event?

[weary aurora]

moonlord?

[rustic totem]

fr?

with what weapon?

[weary aurora]

martian event is like one of the last events iirc

[rustic totem]

oh

whats iirc

[spark tendon]

But melee has so much drip that it allows you to tank things

[weary aurora]

"if I remember correctly"

[weary aurora]

I'm a dodge tank

hallow armor + BoC + MNG

[spark tendon]

If you get enough defense you can actually tank bosses in mm

Without relying so much on RNG

[weary aurora]

gl gettin that much defense

fishron does like 270 dmg in a single hit

[spark tendon]

Most weapons you get until pre-mech are sucky though

[weary aurora]

for melee? yeah

[rustic totem]

how the hell will i kill moon lord

[weary aurora]

same goes for summoner, too, imo

[weary aurora]

infinite race track + unicorn mount + nurse

[solemn onyx]

defense tanking in absurdly effective in classic and expert and reasonably effective in master, although you need to navigate it with some skill

[rustic totem]

why unicorn mount

[weary aurora]

it's base speed out runs moonlord

[solemn onyx]

in master I mean. Classic and expert you just sit there and don't die

obviously not for literally every boss and enemy, but a lot of them

[weary aurora]

speaking of standing still and tanking everything

I remember the 1.2 golden days of just face tanking everything with spectre armor and my array of spells

[rustic totem]

do i need an infinite track if im on classic

[weary aurora]

yes

[rustic totem]

do i 100% need nurse

cus idk how to get her up there

[weary aurora]

nurse is more of a contingency plan

[rustic totem]

im use melee class

beetle armour

[weary aurora]

just make a "house" with one of your teleporters in it

[rustic totem]

terra blade

and teleport her?

[weary aurora]

no

teleport yerself, silly

[rustic totem]

ohhh

yh

lol

[weary aurora]

so, how this works is

you have a 1k-2k long race track

with a teleporter on either end

make a house with the nurse at one end

and you run away from the nurse

when you make it to the other end of the track, you activate the teleporter by stepping on a pressure plate

which warps you to the start of your track, next to the nurse

you now have like a few seconds to heal up before the moonlord teleports to you

then you rinse and repeat till ded

(at least, that's how I beat moonlord back in 1.3)

[paper tangle]

the lower the difficulty the worse defense is

[solemn onyx]

the additional damage on higher difficulties offsets that

to make it less effective to facetank on master

[paper tangle]

1 defense is -0.5 damage on classic but 1 defense is -1 damage on master

lower difficulty it works worse

[solemn onyx]

yeah but master enemies deal 3x damage

defense being twice as effective doesn't make it better when you're getting hit 3 times as hard

[paper tangle]

balanced difficulty

[paper tangle]

because master design is shit

[solemn onyx]

I don't really get what your point is

[wary jacinth]

bagulho é droga man

[paper tangle]

a whole new mode where you literally only increase hp and damage is cancer and bad design

[solemn onyx]

ok

I was just talking about how tanking isn't as braindead in master

[paper tangle]

good

relying on high defense is a pussy tactic

[civic swift]

it was not meant to be as fleshed out as expert

[civic swift]

lol

[paper tangle]

exactly

it was destined to be a pile of shit

[civic swift]

what do you rely on then?

[paper tangle]

on not being shit at the game

and dodging

[weary aurora]

eff

you can't put stacks of items into item frames

[civic swift]

yeah, that would be interesting

[paper tangle]

when everything hits you for <40 theres is 0 fun and skill in the game

[civic swift]

lol

[solemn onyx]

then you should love master mode, no?

[civic swift]

just dont get hit and master mode isnt any different than expert smh

[paper tangle]

no, because i said already master mode is shit design

theres no new AI or mechanics

so no i dont love master mode

[solemn onyx]

it's just expert mode but you can't facetank

[round epoch]

it's just expert but boosted stats

[civic swift]

still gonna disagree with that, the devs knew what they wanted to make, they made it very clear what they were going to make ahead of time, and people still trash it

[solemn onyx]

if you like expert but don't like that you can facetank

then master seems perfect

[paper tangle]

except mobs in expert already do enough damage

there is no need for early game hornets to deal 100

[solemn onyx]

exactly 1 need, yeah

[civic swift]

lol

[paper tangle]

you know exactly what i mean

its shit design and you can go argue with the wall

[civic swift]

they can still do 100 even on expert

[paper tangle]

so why add master

holy fuck

[round epoch]

master is unnecessary, a rework could make it way better

[civic swift]

master is just a less forgiving expert, literally all it was ever intended to be

[paper tangle]

luckily and hopefully mods will change that

a mod that makes master playable and worth it

heard some shit about something like that existing or being worked on

[civic swift]

there are plenty of mods that add new difficulties if thats all youre after

[rustic totem]

can u do martian event more than once

[civic swift]

yeah

[paper tangle]

i know and at least they're actually good

some only crank up stats too so thats shit but at least you get extra drops

master mode you literally only earn more money from bosses

cuz you sell the shitty useless relics and pets

[round epoch]

really the only big benefit for master is the extra accessory

[paper tangle]

hell yeah

you can fit the stepping stool in

[round epoch]

amen

[paper tangle]

immaculate W

[civic swift]

yeah, the extra accessory is really nice

the mounts and pets are worth it too

[round epoch]

but that does help a lot bc even with expert accessory slot it's hell trying to manage them

[civic swift]

Man, you really love terraria dont you

[paper tangle]

how is that any relevant to what we're talking about

[civic swift]

just an observation

[stable delta]

does the cavern with green glowing moss have a purpose or no

[round epoch]

but the rest of master mode is just.meh

[paper tangle]

looks funky

thats the purpose

[round epoch]

just aesthetics

[civic swift]

just decoration

[round epoch]

also i can't do master mode 👽

so i have a grudge a little

[civic swift]

Man.

its really not that much harder than expert, the main thing is its just less forgiving, get comfortable with expert and master wont be too bad

[round epoch]

terraria is a very good game with some painful design choices (rod of discord)

[paper tangle]

lmao yup

[civic swift]

Honestly rod is great where its at

[round epoch]

but farming for it.

for hours

[civic swift]

why are you farming for it?

[paper tangle]

luckily its not that mandatory

[round epoch]

yea

[civic swift]

indeed

its there if you really want it and want to put the effort in, otherwise youre just fine without it

[round epoch]

but it's very helpful for bossing and just general life quality

id imagine it being amazing on day EoL

(also master mode adds literally nothing to that boss to my knowledge)

[solemn onyx]

hp

[fringe bramble]

What happens if u break every black in ur worlds

[round epoch]

yea but that's not super terrible, if you know the patterns and have enough DMG you'll be fine

[round epoch]

Every what

??

[fringe bramble]

Block

[civic swift]

your world doesnt have any blocks in it anymore

[fringe bramble]

😳

[round epoch]

there's no world left

??

[fringe bramble]

So is game over?

[civic swift]

no?

[round epoch]

I guess

[fringe bramble]

Dam

[round epoch]

well you'll have enough materials to do anything

so not really

you'd just need to remake it partially

[fringe bramble]

Can u build on the bottom of the world

[round epoch]

for bossing

yea

[fringe bramble]

O

Didnt know that

[civic swift]

I dont think so

[round epoch]

you can I'm pretty sure

[civic swift]

you can use ice rod though, bring it from another world if you dont already have it

[round epoch]

yea

so if u have that you can remake it

[spark tendon]

But why would you want to remove the entire world?

[round epoch]

idk if oceans can be remade tho

[civic swift]

why would you want to do anything?

[spark tendon]

They can with sand iirc

[round epoch]

Just at the edges of the world?

Neat

[civic swift]

yeah, all oceans are is the 300 or so blocks next to the world border

[fringe bramble]

Wait so

You can make

A biome?

Like you can break all the blocks in one biome and replac eit with blocks from another biome and its that biome now?

[wicked dock]

Depends on the biome
It could be a sub biome

[round epoch]

You can remake any biome yes

[fringe bramble]

Will it count as adifferent biome for like a quest or fishing or something

[round epoch]

Basically you can just place a certain amount of blocks from that biome and make it

[round epoch]

Nope

[fringe bramble]

Dam

[round epoch]

That's actually a strategy for fishing quests

[fringe bramble]

What?

I meant a diffrent biome than what it originally was

[round epoch]

no

It stays completely the same

[fringe bramble]

So how do u makeits a strat for fishing quests

[round epoch]

well whatever biome you remake turns the fish available onto that biome

[spark tendon]

You just make fishing ponds near you base and place blocks of the according biome around it

[fringe bramble]

This gam weird

[spark tendon]

So you can avoid having to go to that biome yourself

[fringe bramble]

Is sunfury good for wall

[wicked dock]

It's okay

But usually getting up close to wof

[spark tendon]

Sunfury works

[fringe bramble]

Csn death sickle be used for end game stuff

I like scytges but it only does like 50 damage

[round epoch]

Meh? I guess

[fringe bramble]

Scythes

[round epoch]

It'll struggle but it does do DoT

[wicked dock]

There isn't much endgame that the death sickle will be good for

[fringe bramble]

):

[spark tendon]

I'm pretty sure no

[wicked dock]

It's good for plantera
Even golem

[fringe bramble]

Why make a cool hard mode weapon if its worse tham pre hardmide wepon

[spark tendon]

You should be able to beat the game with it but it would be extremely difficult

[spark tendon]

It's not worse

[solemn onyx]

wouldn't be awful for pillars

[fringe bramble]

It do less damage

[solemn onyx]

although betters options exist

it's got pierce, goes through blocks

[keen wyvern]

less damage doesn't mean worse

[wicked dock]

I mean
Solar eruption

[fringe bramble]

Swords pierce and go through blocks

But only if the enemy can go throigh blocks

[wicked dock]

And flairon would be nice for taking our the pillae

[fringe bramble]

:/

[solemn onyx]

hence why I said better options exist

[fringe bramble]

Does the projectile scale of melee damage

[spark tendon]

Weapons that hit quicker with less damage would be better than weapons that hit much slower with more damage

[civic swift]

yeah

[fringe bramble]

Ok

[civic swift]

better for what? just in general?

[spark tendon]

A good example would be chain gun and sniper rifle

[lofty quartz]

is there gear i should go for after getting crimson (pre hard mode still)

[fringe bramble]

Molten

Amrour

[civic swift]

the dps comparison between them isnt even close though

[spark tendon]

In terms of dps

[fringe bramble]

Go to hell

[wicked dock]

Wow

[civic swift]

what?

[lofty quartz]

💔

[spark tendon]

That's my point

[civic swift]

the base dps is just their base stats

you can give the sniper rifle a base damage of 2000 and now its way better than chain gun

[fringe bramble]

Shoots once every 10 seconds

[warm spindle]

anyone know anyway to get some good spells, just beat wof master mode but had to use minishark cause golden shower was too weak lol

[civic swift]

you cant just generalize and say slow weapons have less dps

[visual acorn]

suspicious

[wicked dock]

???

[spark tendon]

I didn't generalize

[wicked dock]

Golden shower in prehardmode

[fringe bramble]

You did

[spark tendon]

Actually nvm I worded that wrong

[fringe bramble]

^

[civic swift]

you said the dps on fast firing weapons is better than slow firing weapons

[spark tendon]

I didn't mean to generalize

[warm spindle]

yeah was first spell i got but ive never done a spell class before so idk how to get any others

[spark tendon]

Me english bad

[visual acorn]

golden shower is post WoF though

[fringe bramble]

:000

Cheater!

[warm spindle]

yeah i just read it

nvm then ignore me

[keen wyvern]

say, how many spook moons would it take, on average, to get the horseman's blade?

[visual acorn]

depends how lucky you are

[keen wyvern]

on average

[visual acorn]

I'd say one and a half

assuming you can reach wave 15

[keen wyvern]

~ wave 12-13?

[civic swift]

1 if youre reaching wave 15

[warm spindle]

just been using golden shower since the start dont remember using cheat sheet to get it tho

[fringe bramble]

14% chabce

[spark tendon]

What I wanted to say is a weapon that hits slowly would be worse than a weapon with a little less damage that hits more than twice as quickly

[keen wyvern]

like the sniper rifle

[fringe bramble]

What if a weapon does 3 damage

And has 1 hit per second

[spark tendon]

Which is the case with the sunfury and death sickle

[spark tendon]

Then that weapon sucks

[fringe bramble]

And another weapon thats 1 damage

And 2 hits oer second

The higher damage one is better

But its only a 2 damage difference

🤨🤨

[keen wyvern]

that's because you rigged the example

[wicked dock]

Lmao

[fringe bramble]

Nah

[spark tendon]

2 damage difference here is 2/3, which is pretty significant

[fringe bramble]

Ok ok

[spark tendon]

People didn't learn math smh

[fringe bramble]

5 damage and hits once a second

2 damage and hits twice a second

[warm spindle]

where can i get mana flower from?

im sure it was dungeon drop

[spark tendon]

3 damage difference is 3/5, still over 50%

[fringe bramble]

Nah

Im still right

[spark tendon]

Craft it with nature's gift and mana potion

[warm spindle]

ight ty

[spark tendon]

I should add the clarification that the damage difference is less than 50%

[fringe bramble]

Ok

Ok ik

Ok

Bet

I can make that work

Listen guys

A weapon that does 25 damage on average

[spark tendon]

These are all very specific examples

[keen wyvern]

say there's a weapon, as an example, the Terrormarflpaoasdfwbhroviaubofv, does 400 damage, but has a one second cooldown, and another weapon, the Polarisoijnvoiserunvjsdfnbiuxdhyfuys, does 157 damage, but hits 30 times per second, and has a continuous effect. the Polarisoijnvoiserunvjsdfnbiuxdhyfuys is very obviously better.

[fringe bramble]

And 1 hit per second

[wicked dock]

Yeah
Then it's better

[fringe bramble]

Or a weapon that does 15 damage and 2 hits per second

[keen wyvern]

i can rig examples too

[fringe bramble]

However

[wicked dock]

This is stupid

[solemn onyx]

well no, because if you're facing an enemy with 350 defense, then the Polarisoijnvoiserunvjsdfnbiuxdhyfuys is only gonna be doing 30 damage per second, while the Terrormarflpaoasdfwbhroviaubofv is still hitting for 50 smh

[spark tendon]

But if you look at most weapons of the same class at the same tier, the weapons that hit faster is generally better with some exceptions

[fringe bramble]

The slower weapon has 50% crut chance and the faster weapon has 10% crit rate

[wicked dock]

Fr
Minishark > sniper rifle

[fringe bramble]

Minishark is mid

[keen wyvern]

that's only with no accessories

[fringe bramble]

Midshark

[keen wyvern]

slander

[spark tendon]

That's adding extra conditions

[fringe bramble]

Ok fine

[solemn onyx]

midishark was right there

[spark tendon]

Basically adding damage to the higher damage weapon

[solemn onyx]

but you went for mid shark

[fringe bramble]

Whats a midi?

[wicked dock]

Bruh

Momento

[keen wyvern]

but midi is a music... thing

[fringe bramble]

Ok fine

So

25 damage 1 hps vs

15 damage 2 hps

but the enemy is immune to the 2 hps weapon

🤨

[keen wyvern]

wow

i hadnt thought of that

[spark tendon]

Big brain, but

[spark tendon]

Anyway I must go now

My people need me

[fringe bramble]

I need you

[keen wyvern]

who are your people

[wicked dock]

Here's a proper example
25 damage per second and 37% crit chance with a 20% damage drop-off per hit when it pierces or 80 damage per hit without any crit chance and 20% damage and critical chance and knockoff when enemy and shoot but 25% critical chance and pierce?

[keen wyvern]

what

[fringe bramble]

What

[keen wyvern]

i think my example with the Polarisoijnvoiserunvjsdfnbiuxdhyfuys was better

[weary aurora]

I'm sorry, wat?

[keen wyvern]

tf is knockoff

[fringe bramble]

You lost me at 25

[wicked dock]

Lmao

[fringe bramble]

But yeah what is knockoff

[weary aurora]

no clue

[wicked dock]

To hell if I know

[keen wyvern]

knockoff when enemy and shoot

[fringe bramble]

You're removing their held item?

[weary aurora]

grammar hard

[fringe bramble]

Are u fighting a pokemon?

[keen wyvern]

yes, what game are you playing?

[wicked dock]

My English is too advanced

[keen wyvern]

i see

[civic swift]

so if it has better (times fired per second multiplied by damage) it has better dps?

[keen wyvern]

yep

[warm spindle]

this is literal hell looking for titanium

[civic swift]

that is indeed a true statement

more dps tends to result in more dps

[keen wyvern]

go to hell... wait that sounds rude... go to underworld

[warm spindle]

i did theres nothing there

[keen wyvern]

wierd

[fringe bramble]

Get spelunker potion or sum

[warm spindle]

ik i have a lot

[keen wyvern]

have you destroyed an altar

[fringe bramble]

Strip mine

[lavish creek]

hi guys :)

[fringe bramble]

Hola

[warm spindle]

yes

[keen wyvern]

heyo

[warm spindle]

i already have some

[fringe bramble]

How many

Oh

[warm spindle]

i just need a lot more

[fringe bramble]

How many

Did u break

[warm spindle]

dude

[keen wyvern]

break more

=

[warm spindle]

alright

[keen wyvern]

more titanium

[fringe bramble]

How many altars

Did u destroy

[warm spindle]

like 4 i think

[fringe bramble]

Bro

[wicked dock]

Break 2 more

[keen wyvern]

not enough

[wicked dock]

Atleast

[fringe bramble]

Break 5 more

[keen wyvern]

break 8 more

[wicked dock]

I usually gun for 6 in my playthroughs

[fringe bramble]

Break 11 more

[keen wyvern]

14

[fringe bramble]

17

[lavish creek]

how do i send messages in discord i legit forgor

[keen wyvern]

stop there

[wicked dock]

21 more tbh
More titanium the better

[warm spindle]

alright ill just break as many as i see

[wicked dock]

Wai

[fringe bramble]

Leave one

[wicked dock]

My math go

[keen wyvern]

good idea

[fringe bramble]

Leave one

LEAVE ONE

U needit

[keen wyvern]

but leave one near the surface for crafting

[fringe bramble]

To craff

[lavish creek]

?

[wicked dock]

Break all altars in ur world

[keen wyvern]

dont

[warm spindle]

dude i know

[fringe bramble]

Press person profule picture and press message

[wicked dock]

Wait
No

Leave 1 lmao

[warm spindle]

i used it to create the nights edge

[loud wigeon]

can someone give me zenith

[brazen kiln]

What is the worst class?

[keen wyvern]

no

[fringe bramble]

Download a cheat world

[keen wyvern]

ranger

[wicked dock]

Hey yall some111 give me zenith I need for woll of flesh!!!!:!:!:@:::

[brazen kiln]

Wait even melee is better?

[wicked dock]

I'm sorry?

[keen wyvern]

oh wait we're talking abt terraria

[wicked dock]

No we talking irl

[keen wyvern]

dnd reflexes

[fringe bramble]

Ew

Irl 🤢

[brazen kiln]

Ok then fr what is worst class?

[loud wigeon]

pls me not want virus

[fringe bramble]

From steam

[keen wyvern]

melee best class wdym

[brazen kiln]

I'm being serious

[wicked dock]

Depends on stage of game

[brazen kiln]

Overall

[past blaze]

summoner best

[wicked dock]

I would say summoner tbh

[past blaze]

ngl

[warm spindle]

summoner cringe

[wicked dock]

Summoner my favorite class but it's underwhelming most of de game
Till terraprisma ofc

[warm spindle]

im struggling with spells tbh

[keen wyvern]

summoner is bad specifically for lucantic cultist bc of the duplicates and stuff

[warm spindle]

ok i broke about 3 more

[brazen kiln]

I kinda feel melee is terrible. It has no range and is beaten in dps horribly. Or im just terrible.

[past blaze]

use whips only then

[keen wyvern]

melee has range late-game

[warm spindle]

i used melee and ranged for my first run back on terraria

[wicked dock]

Melee is one of them
However there are some exceptions such as starfury but that's it

[keen wyvern]

whips are for losers

[fringe bramble]

Guys

[past blaze]

of course youd say that

BRB

[brazen kiln]

Damn man. I've always used melee tbh for defence. Guess I'm a low tier user.

[wicked dock]

Melee endgame is good

[keen wyvern]

nah nah nah melee good

[wicked dock]

I mean
Molten armor
It's good foe defense but

[keen wyvern]

zenith, the best weapon in the game is melee

so

i mean

[wicked dock]

Nobody gives a shit ab endgame

Post ml

[fringe bramble]

I sticking with molten armour for WoF cuz defense

[wicked dock]

No real thing to do

[fringe bramble]

):

[keen wyvern]

logically, melee is the best class

[brazen kiln]

I'm at the point where I'm trying to kill old ones army post golem and I'm getting destroyed. I'm playing master with like 6 ppl tho so they have too much hp

[keen wyvern]

same

[wicked dock]

T3 ooa is asscancer

[brazen kiln]

Only post ml

[weary aurora]

what build?

[brazen kiln]

What is T3 ooa?

[brazen kiln]

Melee

[solemn onyx]

tier 3 old one's army

[keen wyvern]

and whos fault is that?

[weary aurora]

oof, rip

[round epoch]

melee has the worst progression before you get like starfury in PHM and like chain guillotines in hm

[brazen kiln]

Yes

[stone mist]

what about right at the start of the game

[wicked dock]

Post golem stage
Where Betsy comes out

[brazen kiln]

Oh

[round epoch]

even after chain guillotines or beam sword it's so terrible

[brazen kiln]

Literally like the terra blade isn't even that good against fast targets

[wicked dock]

Melee does have shit progression

[round epoch]

until like true weapons

[wicked dock]

Nothing to use for mechs

[keen wyvern]

literally who mains dk in terraria

[brazen kiln]

Me

[round epoch]

sure you get amazing weapons late game but late game has amazing weapons for every class

[round epoch]

literally

[keen wyvern]

L

[brazen kiln]

Snowman cannon is op

[brazen kiln]

W

[round epoch]

Pre-Plantera is the only time that there's different progression for different classes

[brazen kiln]

Amarok, ice sickle, chain guillotines

Actually melee is the most balanced and skill based. You get rewarded for skill more than others.

[round epoch]

they're all kinda weak
Don't get me wrong they can beat it but alsoo everyone else gets more bang for their buck

[wicked dock]

Tru

[brazen kiln]

Drippler crippler

[round epoch]

Tbh ranger is probably the best progression

[brazen kiln]

Ranged is easiest class

[wicked dock]

Getting the drippler crippler

[round epoch]

I have never used that weapon lmao

[brazen kiln]

It's amazing

Literally op

[round epoch]

What does it do?

[brazen kiln]

It's a mace with a projectile. Like 150 damage

[wicked dock]

Ranger has a balanced progression

[keen wyvern]

everything

[round epoch]

I only started playing again like a week ago so I'm not super familiar with 1.4 weapons

[brazen kiln]

Since its all the same yeah

[brazen kiln]

They're op

[fringe bramble]

Guys

[wicked dock]

Mace
I find them tough to use
Flairon is the only mace im comfortable with

[brazen kiln]

Homing weapons are op but less skill normally

[wicked dock]

Atleast prehardmode maces
Weird mechanics

[round epoch]

Maces do feel clunky

[keen wyvern]

played dao of pow until post mech...

[round epoch]

But I don't use them like at all

[brazen kiln]

Drippler crippler better

[round epoch]

my favorite class to play is ranger or summoners

[keen wyvern]

your fault

[wicked dock]

Same

[round epoch]

but summoner dies so often

[brazen kiln]

Nah you're probably just used to holding down the trigger with ranger or mage

[keen wyvern]

controller player right here

[round epoch]

and summoner's best attribute (whips) are so sad without obi buffs but with that you can't take a hit

[next moat]

My screen is stuck on connecting to IP when I try to join a server. Any help?

[round epoch]

Server might be offline

[brazen kiln]

I'm not🤡🤡🤡

[keen wyvern]

easy solution: play single player

[brazen kiln]

Obi buffs?

[round epoch]

controller is op for ranged
like it's a bit ridiculous

[round epoch]

Obsidian armor

[next moat]

Its my friends server and I am trying to join

[brazen kiln]

How did you get obi as an abbreviation???

[round epoch]

i thought it was the common abbreviation 💀

[brazen kiln]

I might go back to 3Ds terraria tbh

[keen wyvern]

it is

[wicked dock]

Obs
Obi

[keen wyvern]

same thing

[wicked dock]

Ik
Those are common when referring to Obsidian armor

[brazen kiln]

I've never seen obi used

[round epoch]

1.4.4 should give us a hardmode whip set I beg

[keen wyvern]

agreed

[round epoch]

whips feel so sooo horrendous without obs but also that's literally a phm armor set

[brazen kiln]

Nah just use summoner and get good

[weary aurora]

oh neat
they buffed it

[brazen kiln]

Damn

[brazen kiln]

Is that 2 plat you have?

[weary aurora]

2 what?

[brazen kiln]

Plat

Bruh

[weary aurora]

uh... no?

[warm spindle]

man the slime rain music is such a vibe

[keen wyvern]

that says 12 silver

[weary aurora]

I do have like 42 plat in the bank, tho

[brazen kiln]

Chump cash

[weary aurora]

ikr?

[brazen kiln]

I have 103

[weary aurora]

I've not made a money farm

[keen wyvern]

me who spent all the platinum reforging stuff

[round epoch]

i mean they added whips then added 1 armor set to buff them
they basically added a new unoptimized feature that could balance summoner and make it have similar dps to the other classes and decided against making it better to use

[weary aurora]

that's just from random play

(and I've spent a ton on reforges)

[brazen kiln]

Similar!? Summoner is way too good

[weary aurora]

meh

summoner is bad pre-hardmode

[brazen kiln]

So is everything but ranged

[weary aurora]

mage is good

[brazen kiln]

Magic dagger is so useless

[round epoch]

what even is that

mimic drop?

[keen wyvern]

if you're bad at the game

[brazen kiln]

It's been in the game for ages

[round epoch]

yea I was trying to remember it

[weary aurora]

magic dagger is aight

[brazen kiln]

I never see ppl use that terrible weapon. Just go fish up crystal serpent lol

[weary aurora]

tho it's quickly beaten out by other hardmode weapons you get pre-mech

[round epoch]

Sky fracture similar dps and easy to obtain

[keen wyvern]

fishing is cool, but getting specific items is annoying

[brazen kiln]

Yeah but sky fracture isn't as good

[round epoch]

Doesn't take potential hours to fish up

[brazen kiln]

Only if you're bad

[brazen kiln]

Took me 7 tries skill issue

[weary aurora]

I think magic dagger could have some real staying power if they increased the number of hits it got as it pierced

[keen wyvern]

that's your fault

[brazen kiln]

When you are bad?

[keen wyvern]

never

[round epoch]

fishing for weapons is painful

[brazen kiln]

Lies

[keen wyvern]

slander

[brazen kiln]

Skill issue

[brazen kiln]

Lies

[keen wyvern]

attitude issue

[brazen kiln]

Altitude issue

[brazen kiln]

Mindset issue

[keen wyvern]

you're right, in writing it's libel

[brazen kiln]

Libel?

[keen wyvern]

watch spiderman

[brazen kiln]

Oh i remember

And no

No

What are we even arguing over again?

[keen wyvern]

no idea

[brazen kiln]

Lol

[keen wyvern]

but i win the argument anyway

bye

[brazen kiln]

No

Say something back if you win 🤡🤡🤡

[warm spindle]

yay i got the slimy saddle

[keen wyvern]

[brazen kiln]

:)))

[past blaze]

melee boring smh
all u do is swing sword

[brazen kiln]

All other classes are boring then

[keen wyvern]

all ranger does is shoot gun

[round epoch]

same gameplay as other classes basically

[past blaze]

IM NOT RANGER FAN EITHER

[brazen kiln]

Fr

[past blaze]

caps mybad

all i play is mage or summoner lol

[main wave]

man i swear the butterfly for eol doesnt spawn

[keen wyvern]

all summoner does is stand still and let its pets do all the work

[round epoch]

most classes are just hold down button and aim at enemy

[keen wyvern]

all mage does is shoot magic

[brazen kiln]

Ofc you use summoner. You just run away to win

[round epoch]

then they add a restriction

[past blaze]

thats what makes it fun imo
you can focus more on dodging

[brazen kiln]

Melee is most skillful class

[keen wyvern]

or dodge chance

[brazen kiln]

That's what makes it less skillful*

[round epoch]

until you stop doing true melee lmao

[brazen kiln]

Obvs

[past blaze]

i laughed reading this

[warm spindle]

uh whats the web slinger do

[past blaze]

how is melee a skillful class

[round epoch]

true melee can stop straight into phm and straight into hm

[brazen kiln]

Ikr it's funny seeing truth

[round epoch]

It's a hook I think?

[keen wyvern]

i laughed reading you

comeback

[warm spindle]

oh lemme see

[brazen kiln]

Lol

[warm spindle]

yes it is

[brazen kiln]

He's just angry last prism isn't the best weapon anymore

[past blaze]

you have the most defece, literally everything does 1 damage, and you have the most downright op and powerful weapon

[round epoch]

True melee is really really difficult against most bosses since the game is designed to be ranged

[warm spindle]

it has 8 things i can shoot out actually

[brazen kiln]

True

[past blaze]

how is melee skillful

[brazen kiln]

Nah man it's so skillful

[round epoch]

But otherwise melee is easier

[keen wyvern]

everything does one damage and you have the most op weapon

[brazen kiln]

Let's see you beat master true melee.

[weary aurora]

do we have any weapons that shoot projectiles thru walls?

[keen wyvern]

yes

[past blaze]

lets see you do 1.3 summoner

[weary aurora]

oh?

[brazen kiln]

All do

[keen wyvern]

not going to tell you which ones tho

[round epoch]

Higher def, no ammo or mana restrictions, many weapon options, b dt weapon in the game

[weary aurora]

<_< no

[brazen kiln]

Done that. Too easy. Anyways hurry up. Prove your point.

[brazen kiln]

Yes

[weary aurora]

<_< no

seriously, no

[keen wyvern]

1.3? that's old

old bad

[past blaze]

melee is not skillful, its anything but skill to be the tankiest class in the game

[weary aurora]

the vast majority of weapons do not fire projectiles thru walls

[keen wyvern]

come on, think

[brazen kiln]

"Many weapon options" haha no

[past blaze]

says the man that said melee requires skill

🤡

[brazen kiln]

Yep

[keen wyvern]

says the guy with the slime pfp 🤡

[civic swift]

says the guy playing terraria

[brazen kiln]

At least my class doesn't run away

[keen wyvern]

that's insulting

[weary aurora]

assuming all bullets hit, which gun has higher dps? tac shotty? or mega shark?

[keen wyvern]

how dare

[civic swift]

I'm sorry, I take it back

[brazen kiln]

Shark I think

[past blaze]

better than yours
what even is ur pfp

[keen wyvern]

thank you

[round epoch]

what is a tac shotty

[keen wyvern]

mario

[slender sinew]

chill

[past blaze]

ah yes mario

[brazen kiln]

Tactical shotgun

[round epoch]

oh lmao

[warm spindle]

anyone wanna play?

[past blaze]

atleast my class requires skill

[weary aurora]

it has auto-swing, oddly

[keen wyvern]

dude cant even recognise mario

[past blaze]

you actully have to dodge

[brazen kiln]

🤡🤡🤡 you run away

[weary aurora]

#archive-ltp

[past blaze]

not in all cases you can

[brazen kiln]

Mage and summoner are meant for running

[brazen kiln]

Just accept melee more skilful

[round epoch]

ranger isn't exactly a def powerhouse either lmao

[past blaze]

MELEE IS NOT SKILLFUL

[warm spindle]

i tried doing that but a got warned

[brazen kiln]

It really is

[past blaze]

ill go ask other people

[keen wyvern]

petition to make a new, uncontroversial class for 1.4.4

[round epoch]

true melee is skillful
doing true melee against like EoL would be so bad

[brazen kiln]

Fr

[weary aurora]

doubt

regardless, don't do it here

[brazen kiln]

Unless you have mace

[keen wyvern]

mace too slow for eol

[round epoch]

true melee as in like up close and personal, nothing long ranged at all

[keen wyvern]

gotta go with yoyo

[round epoch]

so keybrand

and the like

[brazen kiln]

Yeah that's like pain and suffering right there

[round epoch]

queen slime and EoL would legit be impossible

[keen wyvern]

maramusa is i believe the longest range nonprojectile sword

[brazen kiln]

Wof💀💀💀

[past blaze]

idk queen slime but eol yes that would be hard

[keen wyvern]

but that does like no damage

[past blaze]

and wof

[brazen kiln]

Breaker blade bigger