terraria-help

[tawdry grove]

i have all 4 weapons for nights edge and im at an altar and its not letting me craft it?

[fresh crescent]

these days it's all about gnomes

[fresh crescent]

modded?

[tawdry grove]

yea im on calamity and few others

[frigid crescent]

gnomes is really better?

i remember the ocean method giving me tons of platinum back in the day

[fresh crescent]

yeah, that's what i thought... it's a different recipie there, you need something more

[tawdry grove]

ugh for what

thats annoying thanks tho

gotta kill a whole ass god to craft it great

[fresh crescent]

apparently so

[sonic pier]

Ah the Jungle ocean aprimaha (or whatever they are called) I used the crystal shard dupe method

[cyan rampart]

what are the requirements for the truffle NPC

[fresh crescent]

have a house in a surface mushroom biome

[sonic pier]

House in a glowing mushroom biome on the surface

[fresh crescent]

or is space, space mushrooms are good too 🙂

[sonic pier]

Surface is better imo

Cause free pylon

[left rock]

mushrooms 😋

[fresh crescent]

i like to have my mushroom pylon at the dungeon entrance

[cyan rampart]

oooh

i have never used pylon

[sonic pier]

I replace blocks with mud and plant glowing mushroom seeds near the dungeon usually

And I place the guide and truffle there

Guide is chill with anywhere and truffle is good with the guide so pylon

[fresh crescent]

same, plus bunny and clothier

[sonic pier]

You should

[cyan rampart]

why

[sonic pier]

I place clothier underground

[sonic pier]

Fast travel

Plus relativity easy to set up

[cyan rampart]

i want to place all my NPCs in 1 place

[lusty bane]

not even too expensive once you get a bit thru the game

[fresh crescent]

instant travel to all the important spots in the world is really nice to have, especially in hardmode when travelling long stretches across biomes gets really annoying

[sonic pier]

Things will become much more expensive

[lusty bane]

that drives thier prices up + pylons make it still easy to reach them

[cyan rampart]

why

[lusty bane]

npc happiness

they dont like crowded areas (with the exception of the princess)

[cyan rampart]

oooh

so they are all introvert

[sharp stratus]

npc's happiness decreases the more npc's are around

[lusty bane]

no they like being with 2-3 people they are friendly with

[keen flax]

3 is a bit much

[lusty bane]

and certain npcs have certain biomes they like, arms dealer likes the nurse and the desert and that brings him to max happiness

[lusty bane]

no it doesnt decrease their happiness with 3

[keen flax]

*loves

[lusty bane]

yeah

[hardy carbon]

Y does the charizard look like that

[sonic pier]

And goblin tinkerer and mechanic like each other and both love the tundra

[keen flax]

No it's inspired by a modded terraria boss

[cyan rampart]

ooooh mechanic?

[hardy carbon]

R u sure?

[keen flax]

tinky doesn't
he frefers cavern

[sharp stratus]

only the mechanic likes the snow

[cyan rampart]

i thought she is useless so shes gone

same to tarvernkeep

now i regret

[keen flax]

Yeah
it's a Dence of Yharon, resplendent phoenix
in short, Resplendence

[sonic pier]

Oh, I usually put them there (and the cyborg)

[hardy carbon]

What if it was secretly a charizard wearing a costume

[lusty bane]

dialga

[keen flax]

mechanic, tinky and angler are 3 best npcs
tavernkeep very close

[hardy carbon]

No im palkia

[cyan rampart]

why?

i dont have 3 of them

[keen flax]

wearing a cosume?

[cyan rampart]

they are killed when i fighted the destroyer

[keen flax]

because of their sheer usefulness

[lusty bane]

they will come back if you have enought houses

[keen flax]

dw they will respawn

[sonic pier]

All npcs die when fighting the destroyer

[hardy carbon]

Yes indeed

[left rock]

now he is become destroyer
killer of npcs

[cyan rampart]

lol

[sonic pier]

Always has been

[hardy carbon]

T.darkgaming isnt working😔

[sonic pier]

What

[hardy carbon]

I thonk thats the name

[left rock]

dark day indeed

[hardy carbon]

Think

[cyan rampart]

and i have to find tavernkeep again😭

still could not find him

[keen flax]

nukes huh
ooa stack instakill

[hardy carbon]

Terraria pvp

[sharp stratus]

you don't if you've already woke him up

[sonic pier]

Tavernkeep spawns after the world evil boss has been defeated

[cyan rampart]

really?

[sonic pier]

Yup

[cyan rampart]

so he can just come back

[hardy carbon]

T-the world?

[sharp stratus]

all npc's respawn during the day if they've died

[cyan rampart]

i thought i have to find him again

[keen flax]

t.dark-gaming.com:7777

[hardy carbon]

Oh

[cyan rampart]

because it has been long time that my NPCs dont despawn

i only see new NPCs come

[hardy carbon]

Is the only way to get axe of regrowth jungle chest

[sonic pier]

Build more houses

[sharp stratus]

make more houses

[sonic pier]

No, you can’t get it in jungle chests

You craft it

[sharp stratus]

specifically the staff of regrowth

[keen flax]

no, there's also jungle/bramble crate
for staff of regrowth so you can craft the axe

[left rock]

no no if you find him once you then have to make home
lmao i didnt know you alr found him once

[sharp stratus]

the axe of regrowth is crafted with the staff of regrowth, along some other things

[twin gull]

my friends cant play together it says joining session and never works

[sonic pier]

Are you both on the same device?

[twin gull]

yeah both mobile

[cyan rampart]

ooooh ok

[keen flax]

I think we need some special early hm pick that uses maybe t3 hm ore and the copper pickaxe
only starting tool not to have an uprgade

[sonic pier]

Make sure both are on the latest available version and try again

[keen flax]

joining via ip or how?

[twin gull]

doesnt work

[twin gull]

ip doesnt work

[keen flax]

are you on same network or different?

[hardy carbon]

Oh alright

[twin gull]

different

[sharp stratus]

[rigid spruce]

can someone explain what the hell happened here

game said i died

but im still alive

???

like i got hit by crimsom mimic and at the same time teleported back with recall potion

[sharp stratus]

it doesn't really feel like the zenith or the axe of regrowth are ''upgrades'' to the copper shortsword and copper axe

[rigid spruce]

i also still have my buffs

[keen flax]

and you're using the right ip? that doesn't start with 10.135 or 192.168?

[sharp stratus]

but rather just happened to be part of their crafting tree

[twin gull]

tried using 192.168

doesnt work

[lusty bane]

they are upgrades

i dont disagree but they are objectively better

[twin gull]

i searched up whats my ip and and tried still doesnt work

[keen flax]

then idk
but at least you used the right address

[twin gull]

yeah i tried everything

and it says loading session and its taking forever

waiter for like 20 mins

[keen flax]

make sure there's no firewall bs in the way

[twin gull]

umm sorry whats that

[keen flax]

like some firewall settings could prevent you joining
on either side really
not sure how does this stuff work on mobile

[safe geode]

I’m doing my first master mode play through as a summoner and I can’t kill dreadnautilus to get the sanguine staff I need tips pls

[coarse wyvern]

I remember seeing it happen once before. If you recall at the same frame you die in you don't die and the death message pops up

[rigid spruce]

wow sick

[keen flax]

Kill QS first cus she easier
and make sure there are no extra spawns on Dreadnautilus fight
potentially block the blood squid spawns by putting 1 block every 4 tiles in a lattice

[safe geode]

I killed QS and got the blade staff

And wym 1 block every 4 tiles in a lattice

[coarse wyvern]

Can you beat queen slime for the blade staff? It's still great for the mechs aslong as your whip has high summon tag damage

[keen flax]

like divide the space into 4x4 squares
and in a upper right corner of each square place a block
can be platform I think

[safe geode]

I have the ice whip

[coarse wyvern]

And blade staff with the coolwhip is by far the best summoner combo for destroyer

[safe geode]

Alr thanks

[rigid spruce]

mana cloak is better than magnet flower for boss fights right?

[keen flax]

this is because a bloody squid summon requires a 4x4 empty space, so this way you leave none

[safe geode]

Oh never knew that I just saw that the sanguine staff can be used up until like golem or plantera so I’ve been trying to get it

[keen flax]

pretty much yes

[keen flax]

it's still best twins weapon most likely

and destro you likely want to handle with optic/mix

[rigid spruce]

alr just making sure

[safe geode]

Wym

[keen flax]

that despite blade being better at destro than sanguine, I'd still do twins first of the mechs and fight destroyer with a mix that uses the optic staff

[coarse wyvern]

For plantera you'd switch your pre-mech summons for optic staff and spiders (3 spider and rest slots optic)

And golem you'd use the deadly sphere

[keen flax]

pri terr tempe desert tiger

[safe geode]

I haven’t played terraria for like 5 years and first play through I do is master it’s killing me inside slowly 😭😭

[main epoch]

golem you use whatever tf you want tbh

golem is made of stone

[dapper siren]

[midnight needle]

Golem never beating the "easy boss" allegations

[keen flax]

it's not killing you inside
it's destroying what lingers in your mind and is bad for you
it eradicates weakness. unwillingness to grind. skill issue. lack of determination.

[keen flax]

golem being laughed at as an easy boss
meanwhile cultist:

[main epoch]

mmhc is one of the most mentally taxing things I've ever attempted

still haven't beaten it

I was thinking of getting back to work when I get my computer

[keen flax]

lgfbhc

[main epoch]

everything mandatory postmech is so easy until ml

so much so post plant and post golem have been homogenized in my mind

[keen flax]

it's funny to me that it's Golem who's been chosen as an "easy boss" and not plant or cultist

[rigid spruce]

unholy trident is best weapon for skeletron prime right? mage ofc

[keen flax]

erm tome of infinite wisdom and rainbow rod are staring at you angrily

[rigid spruce]

hmmmm let me see

[halcyon drum]

@dapper siren

[cerulean plover]

I mean, the golem slander started way back when you could deflect the fists

[keen flax]

generally, use rainbow rod until you kill the worst hand
then switch to trident when his head is obstructed, and tome when it's not

[cerulean plover]

Any damage simply sent them back

[rigid spruce]

oh alr

[keen flax]

creeper ahh behaviour

[main epoch]

cultist is often memed as an easy boss
plant isn't because they're only easy if you actually make a big enough arena

[sharp stratus]

atleast cultist is a fun boss

[main epoch]

is it?

[keen flax]

true, but it doesn't change the difficulty

[coarse wyvern]

Cultist difficulty is based on how many times you hit the fake one

[cerulean plover]

Yeah neither cultist is that hard, it may become a problem with the summons but even then...

[sharp stratus]

either way it makes sense for cultist being easy, considering you might need to fight them more than once

[halcyon drum]

@dapper siren pfp?

[main epoch]

no it doesn't?

[halcyon drum]

Normal mode exists

[keen flax]

I may or may not be screwed
as my challenge ruleset bans hallowed armor
and I have to go in spider up to post 3 mechs
unless some ooa is allowed

[main epoch]

I mean why can't cultist be an actual boss, I don't know what you're trying to say with this

[halcyon drum]

You get like 20 fragment in normal mode

[main epoch]

like why can't cultist be a real boss
you often have to kill qb multiple times and that boss is still actually difficult

[sharp stratus]

it would be pretty annoying needing to redo a boss that's on the same difficulty level as duke or empress, on top of redoing the pillars as well

[main epoch]

pillars would make you meaningfully strong enough for that to not be a problem

[halcyon drum]

Qb isnt required for prog

[main epoch]

duke/empress are easy with a pillar weapon

[halcyon drum]

Not with duke

[coarse wyvern]

An increase in difficulty and an item bag with special items for cultist would be nice

[halcyon drum]

True tho

[cerulean plover]

I mean, what would cultist even drop

Any weapon will get replaced instantly

[main epoch]

armor

?

accessory

[coarse wyvern]

An accessorie maybe since weapons are useless

[halcyon drum]

No

[main epoch]

why not

[cerulean plover]

Maybe accessories yeah, armor is already pretty powerful

[halcyon drum]

Just no. Theres 4 class

[halcyon drum]

4 different armor

[coarse wyvern]

Cultist dropping a material for armor as a last upgrade for each class could be cool

[main epoch]

classless

maybe

[main epoch]

or this

could be like a reforge!

[halcyon drum]

Then why?

[halcyon drum]

Trueeeee

[keen flax]

Terraria is hard
I have to use spider set up until plantera unless I manage to pull insane value of sentries

[lusty bane]

no you dont

[coarse wyvern]

Or maybe celestial accessories that give special effects for each class even

[cerulean plover]

I prefer keeping the blade staff until post Plant

[halcyon drum]

Why optic stuff

[keen flax]

my ruleset states: I must always choose armor and reforges to maximize my dps and mobility
the only exception is 1 acc I choose freely

[halcyon drum]

Why

[lusty bane]

chlorophyte armor would have more damage wouldnt it? because of the set bonus

[coarse wyvern]

Post mechs and they're pre-mechs

[keen flax]

chloro set has 7% less dmg boosts for the crystal
pretty sure that's not better

[lusty bane]

i took until plantera to mean until post plantera

[lusty bane]

the set bonus tho

[keen flax]

post plant I get tiki and spooky

[keen flax]

like spider has +28%, chloro has +21% and the crystal
same minion count

[lusty bane]

the crystal does summoner damage

[keen flax]

but is it enough to make up for 7% on like 7 other minions and 3 other sentries?

[lusty bane]

i can test it in journey mode if you want

tell me ur reforges and build

[keen flax]

as of now full spider set
focused blade staff and legendary cool whip
damage-affecting accs are just pygmy, squire shield, summoner emblem
every damage-affecting potion is present for bosses, medium food and ichor flask
all 7 accs menacing

[lusty bane]

2 whips?

[cerulean plover]

I like it more

[lusty bane]

nvm im dumb

[left rock]

lol

[coarse wyvern]

Isn't the crystal just a flat 100 dps increase?

[keen flax]

but I will surely use like optic or very maybe tempest at the point I have to consider chloro
and a different whip too

[rigid spruce]

you cant stack mana flower mana reduction effect withs its upgrades right?

[lusty bane]

durendal right

[keen flax]

pretty sure it benefits from summoner bonuses

[keen flax]

that or eel
for ease assume it's durendal, and the standard 3 spider rest optic mix

[rigid spruce]

like i cant have 16% mana reduction with both mana cloak and magnet flower.

?

[halcyon drum]

Crystal what

[coarse wyvern]

Iirc mana reduction is stackable yes

[lusty bane]

which sentries will you use?

[rigid spruce]

alright thanks

[coarse wyvern]

Leaf crystal from chloro set

[keen flax]

not yet sure which is best on plant, but it's like 95% sure some ooa thing

[lusty bane]

ill use ballista

[coarse wyvern]

Ballista or spider queen are the best 2 iirc

[keen flax]

Jason says queen spider or t2 ballista
I deem it unlikely that a sentry build will be better dps than a minion one, and therefore ooa armors are unviable

[coarse wyvern]

Maybe spider queens a bit better if you keep her close to the ground or in the same spot since the little spiders will have an easier time applying the venkm debuff aswell

[keen flax]

oh wait I will likely have avenger emblem on, if this changes anything

[rigid spruce]

if i get the message ''the air is getting colder around you'' can i make skeletron prime appear faster by sleeping?

[sharp stratus]

I think so

[keen flax]

probably best is de facto 1 qs 2 ballista

[lusty bane]

heres the weapons im going with, remind me the reforges

[rigid spruce]

alright

[coarse wyvern]

He'll appear at 8:50 no matter what iirc

So yes sleeping makes it faster

[keen flax]

(best reforges)
legendary durendal, rest fabled

[sharp stratus]

specifically 8:51 I think

[rigid spruce]

alright thanks once more

[coarse wyvern]

One minute off damn

[vast owl]

is it possible to use shimmer pylon in skyblock or no?

[keen flax]

yes, but not pre ml

[coarse wyvern]

Doesn't work I think

[vast owl]

oh...

[lusty bane]

this all look good? all menacing/best reforge

[coarse wyvern]

You could change the biome around your shimmer (jungle tundra or anything else) and setup a pylon there

[vast owl]

maybe, but im planning on using the other ones for other reasons

[keen flax]

yes
1 qs is likely marginally better, but that's skippable
does your arena have bg walls?

[vast owl]

away from my shimmer

[lusty bane]

its going to

[halcyon drum]

Oh

[coarse wyvern]

Could drain it down to the cavern layer. Just make sure there's a place for it to land in and not spill

[vast owl]

k

[gentle wave]

@cobalt moat lmao, u got ppl copying u now

[cobalt moat]

Yes

I'm the goat

[lusty bane]

setup should be ready i find a bulb rq

[cobalt moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[vast owl]

wait what helmet is the right one for summoner pre plantera

[keen flax]

and are you going to drink potions? Like the technical maximum is greater luck (won't have, along with other luck boosts), inferno, summoning, wrath, thorns, flask, food, tipsy

[lusty bane]

yeah

[cobalt moat]

Visor

[vast owl]

is it the hallowed hood?

[cobalt moat]

For chlorophyte

[lusty bane]

you said medium?

[keen flax]

summoner as of 1.4.5 has their own variant of the chlorophyte helmet

[vast owl]

oh ok

[keen flax]

I use medium food
the difference in dmg is only on whip speed iirc

[lusty bane]

can i test on fish? easier summoning

ill place walls

also expert or master

[keen flax]

as you please
really, it's my duty to test it all, you're doing a favor

[vast owl]

wait how am i supposed to get chlorophyte if i cant mine for it at all

[keen flax]

legendary
duke has somewhat more defense (but under ichor it shouldn't matter much, hit rate is pretty much same for both armors)

[vast owl]

do i just not get it?

[cobalt moat]

How cant u mine for it

Skyblock?

[vast owl]

skyblock

[keen flax]

have a bunch of mud and jungle grass
it spawns by itself over time pretty sure

[coarse wyvern]

It'll spawn somewhere in your underground jungle I think. Just mine it and make a chlorophyte farm with it

[vast owl]

it does?????

i have a life fruit farm, and i havent seen a single one yet

[keen flax]

...yes
that's primarily where it comes from

[cerulean plover]

Yeah, it can spawn on its own

[keen flax]

life fruit farms are in very little part composed of mud

[coarse wyvern]

Sleep for a while then check all your mud

[fresh crescent]

just make the life fruit garden a lot bigger

[vast owl]

i meant i havent seen a single chlorophyte yet, mb

[pallid arch]

any tips for lunatic cultist master mode?

[coarse wyvern]

Dodge and don't hit the fake clones

[pallid arch]

understandable

[coarse wyvern]

Thats kinda the whole fight lol

[iron heron]

Is crossplay available between consoles and Pc?

[fresh crescent]

not yet, but they're working on it

[rigid spruce]

legendary ftw skeletron prime is silly

rip my arena 💔

[frozen frost]

Any suggestions on quarantine methods pre-hardmode on hardcore master mode?

[iron heron]

Oh nice, u know if we can play together with mods? Or just vanilla?

[vast owl]

so how long would it take for chlorophyte to spawn then?

[fresh crescent]

vanilla

[keen flax]

pretty sure some stuff he cant break
otherwise just tedit celebmk10 for the fight

[coarse wyvern]

Placing dressers or chests stops platforms from being blown by bombs

Dressers if you wanna save on iron, chests if you don't wanna drop down more than once

[dapper siren]

hmmm?
Oh it is just the wires cat meme picture

[vast owl]

which mounts make me smaller? i forgot

[rigid spruce]

yeah i placed hardmode ores in the bottom floor

[coarse wyvern]

Rat, fairy and bat ones iirc

[pallid arch]

what wings are better, empress or fishron?

[coarse wyvern]

Fishron

[keen flax]

like transformation mounts? like mouse or bat or stuff?

[cinder jewel]

come on girlie

[keen flax]

depends if you have insignia on

[keen flax]

the stylist grinderr

[cerulean plover]

No scissors for you

[pallid arch]

i have insignia

[keen flax]

then empress or betsy

[vast owl]

which one is easiest to get preplantera?

[coarse wyvern]

How many kills is that for the scissors lol

[lusty bane]

i tested against twins cause its super easy to summon (only counting dps on spaz) and ur right spider does better dps

[pallid arch]

okay

[lusty bane]

they both max out at around 1900

[coarse wyvern]

Fairy one drops from pixies and bat one drops from vampires

Rat needed living mahogany chests iirc

[cinder jewel]

one more apparantly

[cinder jewel]

its a torch and 12 sand

[keen flax]

Oh many thanks
actually weird since twins are more agile than plant
and agility favors chloro

[vast owl]

fairy it is then

[cerulean plover]

99% of grinders stop before they get the drop

[lusty bane]

chlorophtye has better defense obvs but by ur rules spider is better

[vast owl]

how long will it take for chlorophyte to spawn?

[keen flax]

this is so over
next armor I get to wear for combat is tiki...

[cinder jewel]

very very long

just have a lot of it

[keen flax]

just make some decent fake ahh jungle in the cavern with a ton of mud and jungle grass
would be faster if you've prepped it before wof
and then sleep

[coarse wyvern]

Just have big chunks of mud and wait until it grows

[quartz coral]

where is it best to fish for crystal serpent?

[lusty bane]

its gonna be a long fight

youre gonna want a lot of potions

[coarse wyvern]

You can fish it in any layer even surface just make your fishing spot is 30x30 (or atleast big enough) for max fishing power

[cinder jewel]

surface hallow

underground hollow has more stuff thats cringe

[quartz coral]

is this good?

[lusty bane]

it prob wont take more than 1 buff up per attempt though

[coarse wyvern]

Yes

Should work fine

[lusty bane]

for surface hallow fishing? yeah

what bait are you using

[keen flax]

I don't see why exactly
would she be longer than a normal plantera
especially with dmgmaxxing build

[lusty bane]

its hard to see with ur settings lol

[lusty bane]

not especially long but longer than a fight that i normally do

cause i dont play master lol im bad

ignore that comment

[coarse wyvern]

I found out I can get prismite in surface when I was trying to get the crystal serpent for a mage run and was dissapointed for all the time I wasted getting princes fish

[vast owl]

does it just spawn in mud, or does it have to be jungle grass

[cinder jewel]

:ppp

[coarse wyvern]

Mud

[lusty bane]

mud in jungle biome

[vast owl]

and do i have to space the mud out, or is a huge cube okay

[cinder jewel]

mud near grass

[keen flax]

jungle grass seems to be required
no chloro in mushrooms

[lusty bane]

make sure its underground

[cinder jewel]

yah

cube

[vast owl]

CUBE

HEHEHHEHEHE

[coarse wyvern]

5x5 square with a 4 tile gap between each one iirc

[vast owl]

omg, i just got the pixie drop

i love this game

that was INSANELY quick

[lusty bane]

do you want any help testing ur post plant options while i still got these menancing accessories or are you good?

[vast owl]

ok ty

[keen flax]

I don't yet know when I will fight duke
and post plant is a decent bit away

[lusty bane]

eel shouldnt affect my results too much

and tempest will only be better for spider

[cerulean plover]

Once you get a couple of clorophite you could turn them into bricks (they spread it) but don't count towards the limit

[vast owl]

how many life fruits for full health?

[lusty bane]

20

21

shimmer one

[cerulean plover]

And more if you want health potions

[keen flax]

not sure if there's as much ambiguity post plant
unless regarding specific boss order, but that's not something my ruleset specifies
you mostly go for tiki, grab deadly sphere, grab raven (I think), spooky, terraprisma, and onto golem

[vast owl]

k ty everyone for helping

[ember pagoda]

im too lazy to build an arena for old one's army, is it ok if i skip it? im playing melee and im finishing my last checklists into hardmode

[lusty bane]

yeah its fine

most people dont do it

[cerulean plover]

It's completely optional to do

[ember pagoda]

ok tysm

[lusty bane]

it has good endgame loot but thats about it

for melee

[cerulean plover]

Only if you want some armour and sentries

[ember pagoda]

okay, thanks yall

[lusty bane]

betsy has great drops but not essential

[coarse wyvern]

I farmed betsy like 20 times for besties wrath on my mage run

[cerulean plover]

True, the Betsy wrath is quite useful

[coarse wyvern]

It was suffering

[lusty bane]

her drops are great for every class

because summoner doesnt exist

[coarse wyvern]

Betsy summon/whip when

[lusty bane]

betsy's tail

though a dragon summon would be so cool

stardust dragon is a worm btqw

[cerulean plover]

Every summoner player in existence disappearing rn

Maybe a mini betsy summon could be one of those that stack slots on a single one

Eg the desert tiger

[unkempt dome]

I would love a summon type where you summon multiple (maybe 2 or 3) per summon slot and they're like low damage but you can have a lot of them

[cerulean plover]

The swarm (kinda like the optic staff spawning two minions)

[frozen frost]

What do people consider the bests pre-hardmode health potion?

[quartz coral]

bro almost more crit chance than the damage itself

not even 2 minutes into fishing

[cerulean plover]

The 100 hp ones I'd say, the strange brew is unpredictable

[frozen frost]

Not restoration ones or the honey fish?

[cerulean plover]

Both are better, tho restoration requires pink gel, the honeyfin is better, just requires patience to fish a good amount

[coarse wyvern]

Multiple besty summons would be crazy kekw

[frozen frost]

I fished up nearly 200 crates on my last stream, I can fish in honey a bit

[nocturne linden]

i think the 90 hp is better

its just 10 less hp than the 100

but your cd gets reduced in 15

[frozen frost]

I have well over 100 of those as well. I'm playing Hardcore Master Mode, so I'm doing a lot of extra farming and collection

[cerulean plover]

Yeah, but pink gel isn't the most consistent to come by (but you get 25-50 potions from one pinky)

[nocturne linden]

you craft restoration?

[pliant heron]

u can get restoration pots from shadow chests

[nocturne linden]

just loot heel

hell

[frozen frost]

I don't like to mess around in hell a lot on Hardcore Master Mode

[nocturne linden]

i mean

just put that one potion that tps you back to your base in your hotbar

if u stay at half hp, tp back

[frozen frost]

Why?.... If the wall of flesh spawns that will kill me.

[nocturne linden]

and why are u talking about wall of flesh

[cerulean plover]

Fear of accidentally spawning it I'd guess

[nocturne linden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/239127539191119872/1148746404441890846/E59321BC-A727-4EC4-9204-4DD36F4ABEEF_1.gif

[frozen frost]

Because that's a danger with farming in hell

[nocturne linden]

save and exit if that were to happen

its cheating? sure but you didn't want to fight him

[frozen frost]

... That's not realistic, no

[cerulean plover]

Also true

[nocturne linden]

you would die anyways

if he spawned without you being prepared

[unkempt dome]

I usually use honeyfin for the WoF fight

[frozen frost]

I'm not going to exploit to avoid dying

[nocturne linden]

eh unless you are using summons no

[frozen frost]

I'm streaming the whole run live anyways

[nocturne linden]

you wouldn't randomly kill a voodoo demon

[frozen frost]

it i s

lol you say that

I've literally watch a dozenpeople accidentally spawn the wall

saying "but but it's so easy not to do" is easy to SAY

[nocturne linden]

clearly not suitable for hardcore

considering vodoo demon will only take damage if you do something

if one spawns in the way you're going then just trap him or tp back to your base

[coarse wyvern]

Average summoner player watching their flinx be their cause of death

[frozen frost]

Again, I've watched people with 10000 hours in the game spawn it by accident. You're just not being realistic about the danger

[nocturne linden]

lol

[nocturne linden]

ok whatever

you're like

being overly cautious for no reason

[frozen frost]

Arrogance is how people end their runs

[nocturne linden]

i know its hardcore

[cerulean plover]

It was a personal matter for that flinx

[nocturne linden]

but you wouldn't spawn wof randomly if you didn't use summons or if you paid attention to the voodoo demons

[coarse wyvern]

Come on I only made it kill like 3 of it's own kind one time

[frozen frost]

Lmao you literally throw in If after If. I would love to watch you farm hell for potions, ones you can craft hilariously easily, for no reason and just spawn wall and end your run for some potions.

I can craft a stack of 200 of them trivially, why would I risk Any chance of losing my run to farm them?

[coarse wyvern]

Farm potions? Yall are talking about restore pots?

[nocturne linden]

i mean

i did a hardcore one time

i didn't spawn WOF randomly

instead i died to an enemy who went through walls in hardmode

[frozen frost]

Hardcore Master Mode? Really? You have the VODS like I do?

[nocturne linden]

if you don't believe me then whatever

[coarse wyvern]

If you're avoiding killing vodoo demons (literally just block them off and run) then there's no problem lmao

[nocturne linden]

why would i stream it on a phone

it would lag me

[nocturne linden]

yeah

he doesn't understand it

[nocturne linden]

ye

[frozen frost]

Why would I risk that on hardcore master mode when I can craft a stack of 200 with materials I already have. Why even go there?

[coarse wyvern]

You don't have to kill everything and you can just take off your summons while exploring

[nocturne linden]

now you're making me want to try hardcore again

[frozen frost]

These are things people say who die in their runs from comical things.

[coarse wyvern]

Idk you want the loot? Why'd you go there if you don't want loot

[nocturne linden]

maybe i will try hardcore expert as summoner

[frozen frost]

I beat Hardcore classic on my literal first attempt. I may beat hardcore master mode on my third attempt here right now.

[nocturne linden]

its classic

[frozen frost]

I didn't suggest going there

[halcyon drum]

Aka 1 hit simulator

[nocturne linden]

everything is a breeze in classic as long you're not new to the game

[nocturne linden]

that would be legendary

expert is 3 hits

[frozen frost]

So I'm sure you've beaten it on classic hardcore in one attempt too then.

[coarse wyvern]

Anyways I'd rather not get caught in this byeee

[nocturne linden]

no

why would i play classic

there's no fun in it if you've played expert+

[frozen frost]

to beat the game on a hardcore character.

[nocturne linden]

ok

[nocturne linden]

too late

come back

[cerulean plover]

Terraria but everything is daytime EoL

[nocturne linden]

fr

[coarse wyvern]

I could see that as a youtube challenge lmao

[frozen frost]

I love when people trash what other people have accomplished in the game. "What? Classic? Of course I haven't accomplished that, I'm too good for that"

[nocturne linden]

"What? You don't want to play classic because you don't have fun playing it? Eww you're so boring bro stop hating on classic"

[coarse wyvern]

Just play journey and you have all the modes whenever you want kekw

[nocturne linden]

when is a mod going to smite us down for this discussion in #terraria-help

[nocturne linden]

true

[frozen frost]

Nah that's not how you talked about it, you're talking about it like beating it on hardcore is easy. Then... do it?

[nocturne linden]

yes

indeed

classic is easy

that's why i don't have fun in it

[ember pagoda]

context above

turns out i can use the arena ive built for bosses to start the old ones army. ive done it (pre hardmode) and its super easy. i plan to abuse it like 9 times to get tier two tavernkeep armor. orrr maybe more to buy the t2 sentry

question:
how long can i keep the armor for before i need to change it? can i take it to plantera? golem?

[frozen frost]

I literally beat the game on my first hardcore attempt at classic, I'm not saying it's exceptionally hard, but I'm also about to be in hardmode with every pre-hardmode boss beaten in Hardcore Master mode on my 3rd attempt ever playing master mode period, much less Hardcore. I have fun playing the game on all modes though, because I'm not arrogant.

[nocturne linden]

i mean an arena for ooa its just a platform above the floor

[nocturne linden]

keep it until after plantera ig

[ember pagoda]

yeah i just found out that the distance between the ground and the first platform is enough

[coarse wyvern]

It's okay if you skip it. But for warrior I think you can keep the armor up until pre-plantera with balista armor for high def

[nocturne linden]

aren't you being arrogant or maybe that's not the word to describe it. I don't like classic, i don't have fun in it, its how i am, you on the other hand have fun playing it so whatever

maybe in a way you're arrogant or prideful whatever because you think beating classic on hardcore is a great achievement when it's not really if you ask mostly people in the community

[coarse wyvern]

Gets easily replaced with turtle armor pre-plant

[nocturne linden]

farm 150 medals

get valhalla armor

[frozen frost]

It doesn't have to be a great achievement, it's something you haven't done, so you shouldn't act like you're above it until you've done it. If you've enver beaten the game on hardcore why talk about someone else doing so like you have the clout to speak on it?

[ember pagoda]

ahh i see thats sad

[ember pagoda]

i dont think i want to do that LOL

[nocturne linden]

you're failing to understand the point

[nocturne linden]

you also can just farm for 50 medals

for the chestplate

which increases regen

[ember pagoda]

okay tysm i will do that

[distant peak]

Does anyone know if i can throw nights edge sword in shimmer, and if i can what would i get back?

[nocturne linden]

you would get the materials for it

[frozen frost]

all components, but you can't reforge it thre you need a demon altar of course

[distant peak]

so i would get back all swords i used to craft it

[coarse wyvern]

You can grind medals right now for higher tier ooa then beat betsy for wings/flying dragon. It's a good weapon (though it's kinda outclassed by tblade)

[frozen frost]

Yeah but that's really not worth unless you have a pylon network to a mushroom cave with a demonn altar... like I do (-=

[coarse wyvern]

If you throw it in the shimmer you'll get the swords used to make it

[ember pagoda]

i see i see

[nocturne linden]

@distant peak mostly everything you craft will be decrafted if u throw in the shimmer

and some materials like ores or some blocks will downgrade

[distant peak]

ok thank you for helping

[quartz coral]

WHY ARE THEY SO EXPENSIVE

[frozen frost]

that's because it's 9 i think right, but yeah they are pricey. They don't seem That rare.

[nocturne linden]

i think the base price is like

10 gold

[frozen frost]

0% chance I fight Fishron in my master mode hardcore run

[quartz coral]

took me like 5 mins to catch 9

[coarse wyvern]

The higher the rarity (color of name) the higher something sells for usually

[quartz coral]

gold farm meta?

[nocturne linden]

no

afk farm is meta

[coarse wyvern]

I got like 60 in an hour lmao

[quartz coral]

gotta try duke pre-boss in hm

[lost echo]

how do i reel up the fish?

[nocturne linden]

its funny how you worded that

[quartz coral]

surely it won't be that bad :)

[nocturne linden]

wait for the fishing rod to start moving then you pull it back

[coarse wyvern]

I could do duke post-mech so pre-mech is alsp possible

[nocturne linden]

or i mean

there are fishes appearing now in 1.4.5 right

[frozen frost]

When I hit hardmode it will be time to fish like crazy. I have 105 Master Bait waiting

[nocturne linden]

so its easier as visual indicator to see

[quartz coral]

well, pre-mech can mean i already beat queen slime

[coarse wyvern]

What class are you fishy. I can suggest equipment

[nocturne linden]

not that queen slime really gives any useful item for duke

[quartz coral]

i already settled on equipment

[nocturne linden]

except the mount

[coarse wyvern]

She is meant to be pre-mech for summoners doe

[quartz coral]

mount?

[nocturne linden]

yes

except it

[pliant heron]

thriller night

[coarse wyvern]

What is the equipment

[quartz coral]

ik, i'm a summoner main

[nocturne linden]

i think sanguine bat is better though for duke

[quartz coral]

didn't get the wings yet

[coarse wyvern]

Mage hrmm

[sand beacon]

If you allow recalling in boss fights it's not too risky

[coarse wyvern]

Get wings yes

[coarse wyvern]

Also a mana flower is great for mage

[quartz coral]

no

it's not that hard to click 3 times

[frozen frost]

I'm down to seashell, demon conch, or recall, but not log off. The first 3 are legit options my character would have in a fight

[quartz coral]

just waste of accs slot

[coarse wyvern]

Yes but you lose dps

[sand beacon]

Yeah I play by those rules too

[nocturne linden]

mana cloak slander

[pliant heron]

get either roller skates or the dragon mount so u can replace a mobility accessory with something more useful

[quartz coral]

duke doesn't have time limit

[nocturne linden]

i hope you can't kill duke

[sand beacon]

I'm a bit soft and I allow nurse too

[pliant heron]

Nice

[sand beacon]

But yeah it means you can try fishron and always recall if low

[coarse wyvern]

The time limit is the damage he does

[sand beacon]

As long as you make sure to spawn the tornadoes on either side of the arena the fight isn't too bad

[quartz coral]

his patterns are not that hard, and not that he overwhelms with spawning other enemies

[frozen frost]

The nurse is also a regular game mechanic so I do use her in Master mode. I didn't in classic hardcore, but master mode hardcore I'm going a little more extreme. I'm going to do dynamite quarantine lines across my entire large map

[quartz coral]

so there's no real time limit before the fight is impossible

[sand beacon]

Haha that sounds extreme

[coarse wyvern]

Alright accessories are fine then just wings are missing and you're alright

Weapons are serpent and golden shower I assume?

[frozen frost]

You should see my map. I already have massive quarantines of the jungle, my base, and a few other places, and tunnels across the majority of the map. ... As well as sky highways going over the TOp of all the corruption biomes, and heart lantern stations everywhere on the map, and campfires.

Also series of banners set up in arenas in different areas of the map... it goes on a bit

[coarse wyvern]

Yes okay just saw the image

[sand beacon]

Lol that's quite the grind

[frozen frost]

I just fished nearly 200 crates, hehe I'm down for the grind.

[keen ether]

How the hell do i easily get dreadnautilus i have lucky clover which improves my luck a bit but ive tried fishing on blood moon twice but never got it im using demonite rod

[sand beacon]

When I did master hardcore I just had my bed next to the nurse

[quartz coral]

for reforges i went full on lucky

[coarse wyvern]

Use sonar potions to see him easier

[frozen frost]

I built the nurse a kind of sky box that i can get in but enemies can't. I may refine it more but I haven't needed it yet.

[coarse wyvern]

Thats alright

[frozen frost]

Only Skeletron hurt me much... I do... have over 50 defense pre hardmode

[sand beacon]

Lol why so cautious?

[quartz coral]

btw what's razorblade typhoon's drop rate?

[frozen frost]

It's Hardcore MasterMode, I don't intend to die.

[coarse wyvern]

Most importantly how's your arena looking @quartz coral

[frozen frost]

I also have a stack of 80 dangersense potions. I have All buffs active anytime I'm below the surface

[quartz coral]

in progress, i'll just do a platform every 20 blocks, 5 layers

[coarse wyvern]

1in6 now (16.67%) after eel has been added to the table

[sand beacon]

I feel like the more time I spend in a world the more I risk dying

My hardcore runs are 10-20 hours usually

[coarse wyvern]

Thats good

[frozen frost]

As an old man who enjoys methodical play it's not a big issue for me. My issue is the game is just simply quite hard on master mode at certain breakpoints

[sand beacon]

(only done 2 in master and 4 in expert before master came out)

Ah yeah if you like the grind fair enough

[quartz coral]

why were you typing so long? holding yourself not to swear at me? :)

[frozen frost]

I stream every night on twitch around 10 PM. I also upload all the VODS to YouTueb all that is on my profile or should be

This run is now well over 30 hours, I try to explain everything I do as I go and why.

[sand beacon]

Haha I see

Different playstyles I guess

[coarse wyvern]

Just thinking about what to say lol

[frozen frost]

That's the great thing about sandbox style games

[sand beacon]

True true

[frozen frost]

Just wait till I mine 2000+ dungeon blocks pre hardmode to build my quarantine walls with. That is where the real streaming entertainment comes in

[quartz coral]

btw, since rollerskates match my building speed, does building potion make the fastest speed even faster?

[inland bison]

hey guys im preparing for hardmode in pre hardmode so i bombed side by side and UNDER the corrupt biome, i was wondering that, in the line of area that i bombed under, do i place rope cuz vines might spawn? or no?

[frozen frost]

I ususally place dungeon blocks, but any kind of block that isn't mud sand or stone will do

[sand beacon]

Might be easier just to line it in non corruptible blocks

[severe inlet]

like this

[inland bison]

like onthe outline?

[severe inlet]

for every part that has corrupt grass

[inland bison]

i meant the under thingy😭

ohh i see what u mean like

[frozen frost]

I literally build a giant wall of dungeon blocks from above the surface to hell

[inland bison]

until the button

[frozen frost]

on a large ma

[inland bison]

i dug under it so i dont have to dig into hell just sideways lol

[cunning scaffold]

stone slab is good for aesthethic and smoothness

[severe inlet]

if there's corrupt grass
either replace the block with something else or put rope covering where vines could grow

[frozen frost]

Yeah but you don't have to "dig", you can just use dynamite

[inland bison]

they dont corrupt stone slabs?

[severe inlet]

wood also works

[frozen frost]

dynamite is where it's at for your quarantine needs

[severe inlet]

bricks of any kind work

[coarse wyvern]

So I assume you have dukes pattern down? If not then
First phase: dashes 5 times before shooting bubbles, get rid of them with golden shower and apply ichor on him, another 5 dashes and he shoots out the sharknados go to the opposite side of where he put them in and avoid getting the nados in the middle and just repeat until 2nd phase

2nd phase
He now does 3 dashes before spinning in a circle and shooting out bubbles then another 3 before the cthulhu nados, try to keep them on the far sides of your arenas and run to the opposite side, make sure to not be touching the ground before they hit or you'll get hit by thr cthulhu nados hitbox

3rd phase spam dash with shield of cthulhu and pray

[cunning scaffold]

nah remember stone SLABS

[inland bison]

dang tysm

wait i thought they corrupted wood

[coarse wyvern]

Yes

[severe inlet]

nah

wood doesn't get corrupted

[cunning scaffold]

nah

[quartz coral]

ik, i'm more than familiar with dashes, life drain for bubbles, cyrcling method

[severe inlet]

it grows depending what block it grows on but doesn't get corrupted

[frozen frost]

Yeah so you can grow blocks for it easily really

[inland bison]

dang thanks guys

[severe inlet]

unless the grass under it gets corrupted while it's still a tree

[sand beacon]

Really? Not just the coasting speed?

[inland bison]

what grows wdym

[coarse wyvern]

Anything that boosts building speed boosts roller skate place speed

[cunning scaffold]

genuinely do i really need to contain the V spread if i try to speedrun mech bosses

[severe inlet]

trees

[frozen frost]

Keep in mind if you have a corruption world the hardmode eater guys spit corruption and if they go "over" your wall they can infect the other side

[sand beacon]

Yeah but weren't they asking about top speed?

[severe inlet]

only for the surface

[coarse wyvern]

Top speed doesn't get increased

[severe inlet]

for underground it's slow enough where you can just forget about it

[sand beacon]

That was their question

[inland bison]

dang that means im building tall walls too

[coarse wyvern]

Okay I gotta relearn how to read mb

[sand beacon]

Haha

[cunning scaffold]

tysm though the real problem is underground

[frozen frost]

I build high enough to go above the biome, it's not that tall actuallly.

[severe inlet]

not really

[inland bison]

thanks dude ur a savior

[severe inlet]

underground spread is 6x slower compared to surface spreading

[brisk bison]

i feel it was just bad wording tbh

[cerulean plover]

That was removed

[brisk bison]

that question wouldnt make sense

[cunning scaffold]

damn aight

[coarse wyvern]

If you dig 3x3 hole all the way to the underworld it won't spread

[frozen frost]

Oh? well that makes it easier

[sand beacon]

Eh it was clear enough to me

[frozen frost]

They don't do it on any difficulty? spread corruption?

[cerulean plover]

Same as the random corrupted block from breaking altars

Thankfully gone

[cunning scaffold]

i would've done that if it isnt a V shaped, my ahh is too lazy to find it with biome potion

[severe inlet]

i would suggest you do those 3x3 holes around the places you want to not get corrupted bc containing hardmode V is kinda hard

it will either just be too big or too much digging

[sand beacon]

laughs in 20 hour worlds
Never had an issue with corruption spread

[frozen frost]

Actually when I did hardcore classic I hadn't played since that was changed. So... I didn't break Any altars EVER, in my entire run, I beat Moon Lord with zero hardmode ores in my world, besides chlorophyte of course. I fished for Palladium armor

[severe inlet]

both are already directly under your base too

[cunning scaffold]

cause you speedrun mech

[severe inlet]

just has to climb up but that would take too long but as i said if you realy want to you could dig around your base and other places you don't want getting corrupted

[coarse wyvern]

Oh Pre-hardmode just wall off your base with non-corruptable blocks

[sand beacon]

Guilty

[brisk bison]

...i think you misunderstood me but whatever

[severe inlet]

kinda small

[quartz coral]

it's alright for me

[sand beacon]

Haha my apologies, guess it doesn't matter

[frozen frost]

I had to fish so many crates to get enough adamantite ore to build the forge.....

[severe inlet]

why for the forge specifically

when you could go mining

[cunning scaffold]

why

[severe inlet]

skyblock?

[brisk bison]

hardcore

[cerulean plover]

I usually make them with more space between them, with wings platforms are fairly optional

[coarse wyvern]

Now just place a few buffs (sunflowers, honey, campfire etc) and it'll be a perfect arena

[frozen frost]

It requires 30 ore to make the forge, and I didn't want to break any demon altars... So I fished early hardmoe to paladium armor and the adamantite forge

[sand beacon]

I think romuless fears normal enemies a bit too much

[brisk bison]

it was just classic though why not just mine

oh right

[frozen frost]

I literally finished the entire run with no hardmode ores, no altars smashed

[brisk bison]

altars allow pirate invasion and mechs to spawn naturally

[cunning scaffold]

cant you like use hoiks for invasion

[frozen frost]

yeah the pirates were one reason too but really I didn't know about the block change and I also wanted to fish anyways because it's safer

[brisk bison]

well not for all mobs

[coarse wyvern]

A hoik ain't stopping no bullet going at mach 10

Or a ghost

[cunning scaffold]

true

[frozen frost]

I will be fishing for everything this time too, no altars smashed

[sand beacon]

I'm probably not gonna change rom's mind but for anyone wanting to try hardcore you can also just recall when you're low

And be aware of what can one-shot you

[frozen frost]

I do recall when low, I just wouldn't low out

[sand beacon]

(looking at you Red devils)

[coarse wyvern]

The most dangerous thing in hardcore is the mobs lol

[frozen frost]

I do more than recall, I recall, pylon teleport, demon conch, seashell conch out

whatever is available that isn't logging out or using some kind of glitch

[cunning scaffold]

i dont think tping to the underworld is a safe option

[coarse wyvern]

Not the bosses, just a turtle hurling at you with the might of a spinning skull

[cunning scaffold]

(demon conch)

[cerulean plover]

My first time playing expert and being scared of the skeleton archers

[frozen frost]

sometimes, against bosses that are above ground only it's good

[sand beacon]

I meant recalling when low so you can go mining instead of fishing

[cunning scaffold]

ohh

[coarse wyvern]

Those guys are scary

[woven gust]

chat

expert mode eater of worlds

ranged class

how to beat

[coarse wyvern]

Espcially when you're at the shimmer and can't find out whats shooting at you

[cerulean plover]

Spiky balls?

[quartz coral]

is this even good

[coarse wyvern]

Spiky bolls if you already encountered goblins

If not use jester or unholy arrows

[sand beacon]

It looks cool

[woven gust]

that of all things??

[frozen frost]

But yeah typically I just use the magical conch to the coast. That saved me twice against EOL since I fought her on hardcore without having ever faced her before

[woven gust]

alright if you say so

[cunning scaffold]

try it first

[woven gust]

i'll have to find the tinkerer though

so i dont run out

[cunning scaffold]

just spam a lot of it before spawning the boss

[cerulean plover]

Both shred it, especially if you manage to make it go in a straight line

[coarse wyvern]

Anything that shoots fast enough to hit fishron works

[cunning scaffold]

(it never goes in a straight line when i try it) it just tokyo drift to me

[frozen frost]

Spiky balls and Beenades are both extremely strong overlooked items

[coarse wyvern]

Or just chillet dash it lol

Chillet makes the evil bosses a breeze

[frozen frost]

Chillet is my favorite thing in the game I used it against the moonlord....

[cunning scaffold]

finding it is a hassle without a railway

earlygame

[coarse wyvern]

Just look for it with a spelunking pot at caverns

It's always usually between hell amd caverns

[frozen frost]

I've goten super lucky finding it... Then again I also found The Dirtiest Block on my second stream too... And a magic carpet...

surprising on a large world

If I can get bundle of horeshoe baloons plus Terraspark boots plus flying carpet I feel like I will be nearling max pre-hardmode mobility

I already have basically 2 of those three

Plus chillet

[coarse wyvern]

If you can try and get spirit flame actually

The projectiles home onto enemies so less aiming to worry about against duke

[cerulean plover]

I really like the Flame

tho you have to fight the real hell (underground desert)

[frozen frost]

Yeah I typically find it quite far down right near where lava starts in large worlds

[coarse wyvern]

Underground desert isn't so bad when you're geared for it

Underground jungle is pain

Not even surface jungle is safe lmao

[frozen frost]

I have a massive cavern carved out in the underground desert for fishing and a pylon pre-hardmode right now. I actually haven't had a rough time with the desert in this master mode run somehow. I've been so terrified of sand dropping on my head I think it has kept my extra alert

[cerulean plover]

opposite feeling to me, I prefer the more open space of the jungle rather than the desert little "rooms", maybe I should just start bombing it instead of going around with a pick and making small tunnnels

[frozen frost]

Well I made a tunnel literally 2 blocks above the "surface" across mos of the entire large map witha copper pickaxe

[coarse wyvern]

The open space is great

But the open space is also not great... (yes I'm talking about the turtles)

[frozen frost]

I had to stop at the corruption of course because I didn't have bombs at the time

but I'm going to make a straight mine cart 2 squares above the "surface"... technically underground, across the entire map before hardmode probably

I also think I will quarantine all of my various pylons in about a 100 block square around them

[cerulean plover]

now that's dedication

it must be the hardcore mindset because I could never be bothered

[frozen frost]

You should see how many heart lanterns I have...

I'm always on the hunt for more life crystals, long after 400 hp and a shimmered one

Most places I go on my map you are being affected by a campfire and heart lantern

[gentle wave]

nice

fellow phm enjoyer

[fresh crescent]

if you plan on making a minecart tunnel across the whole map then you really should use the molecart to make it easier

[keen flax]

he ho fishes for heart crystals
will never run out of them

[gentle wave]

u should also make a mob switch to disable mob spawns

[keen flax]

why not garden gnome, star in a bottle, bast statue, sunflower?

[frozen frost]

I may use it, but I'm already about 1/4 of the way with a copper pickaxe. I can uses fish bombs or even just my hellstone pickaxe now

[frozen frost]

I do have one bast statue but out of like 12 oasis crates only one

[surreal jolt]

...

Is that really faster

[normal fiber]

Than just a pickaxe? Yes.

[frozen frost]

It's pretty good I might use it but I might just do it by hand. I prefer it that way

[keen flax]

what about 1200 oasis crates
not enough fishing loot -> more fishing

[frozen frost]

I've also flattened a massive portion of the surface completely

I caught over 200 crates on my last stream... I 'm getting there but it's st ill pre-hardmode

I did also kill all pre-hardmode bosses besides eye which i had already killed... And a ton of other things! Watch the VODS (-=

[frozen frost]

I can only make so much progress per day on master mode hardcore safely. Also... I'm sitll a noob at fishing, and I'm saving all my Master Bait for hardmode

[keen flax]

you are doing angler quests right?

[cerulean plover]

I mean, I wouldn't be too afraid of losing it, better bait consumes less likely and can get you golden crates easier for even more

[frozen frost]

yeah I have full angler armor and hook and guide, maybe a few more quests to golden rod

[coarse wyvern]

Are you sitting in a chair for 5 more fishing power?

[keen flax]

and tipsy?

[frozen frost]

many chairs, many many chairs

[coarse wyvern]

Chairs

[frozen frost]

I also have a massive stack of crate potions, and an unlimited bucket of water

I have fishing set up in All possible biomes except underground tundra for now

pylons to each one. I got so lucky that I build my mushroom cavern base right next to a demon altar as well

[viral hornet]

Anyone able to help me with hardmore plantera? I’m free to play at 1pm

[coarse wyvern]

Make the arena bigger or make an osogof tunnel

The arena size is what makes plantera harder or easier

[modern plume]

do unicorns spawn at the surface hallowed biome or the underground? i cant find any on the surface

[frozen frost]

Is it Classic? Expert? Master? If classic - Campfires - Heart Lanterns - Regen potion - Swiftness potion - Ironskin potion - Endurance potion - Wrath Potion

[coarse wyvern]

Surface just give them a bit of time to spawn

[viral hornet]

Man I don’t wanna do all that stuff I just want other people to play with me

[keen flax]

a timezone would help

[frozen frost]

Al that stuff takes a very short time to be honest

[coarse wyvern]

You could use water candles and battle potions to increase spawn rates

[trim elbow]

They don't spawn underground.

[viral hornet]

Eastern

[keen flax]

Ehh just give utc time
also, #looking-to-play

[quartz coral]

FUH OTHER WEAPONS, JACKPOT

[cerulean plover]

gambling machine

randomly does seven gazillion damage

[modern plume]

unholy arrows or hellfire arrows?

[coarse wyvern]

Imagine just fighting duke and getting lucky with this lol

[coarse wyvern]

What boss

[modern plume]

the mech bosses

[cerulean plover]

neither

cursed/ichor/holy arrows are all better

[quartz coral]

what's the max damage orange zapinator can do?

[coarse wyvern]

Unholy with daedulus for destroyer and ichor/cursed flame for the others

[coarse wyvern]

I've seen someone get lucky with it and instantly kill destroyer as soon as it spawned

[trim elbow]

I think it can basically combo forever.

[harsh finch]

Finally got tera boots need to find my shimmer pool now and hopefully make my caverns pylon by it

[keen flax]

no it has a limit
max damage is if it gets the damage multiplier on every single roll

[trim elbow]

Shimmer Pylon.

[cerulean plover]

unholy? They're pre-hardmode, at that point even jesters are better, no?

[little seal]

what ranged weapon is good for plantera?

[coarse wyvern]

Jesters need too many stars and unholy are easier to make (and most people suggest unholy for whatever reason)

[wooden gyro]

Do i fight destroyer first or twins

[harsh finch]

I didn't know that was a thing ngl guide I was looking at didn't reference it

[trim elbow]

It's from 1.4.5.

[keen flax]

jesters have lower base dmg than unholy, but more pierce

[coarse wyvern]

And unholy arrows have 2 more damage I guess

[harsh finch]

Is there a specific NPC or so I should be putting there when I do find it? I'm still pre hard mode obv and don't pets count towards the total?

[trim elbow]

Probably just people who like the Underground too.

[keen flax]

npc's don't care much about the pylon, and shimmer biome doesn't count for happiness (nor is it required for pylon to work)
put it where shimmer is most convenient to have ig

[coarse wyvern]

Goblin and mechanic

[keen flax]

I strongly recommend putting shimmer with a pylon at a mob farm in post skeletron

[harsh finch]

So it's a good idea to make a mob farm under/above the shimmer? I was gonna make them on the opposite side of my world ngl

[magic ore]

I have alot of golden delight,who wants some

[keen flax]

no make is where you please and pump it over
satisfying and surprisingly fast to do

[wooden gyro]

A spear statue began attacking me but i cant fight back. Where did the spear statue come from?

[keen flax]

spawned
it's a statue enemy (or statue mimic)
pretty sure you should be able to fight back..

[quartz coral]

legit crazy

[coarse wyvern]

Grave yard biome can spawn statue mimics

[modern plume]

how do i stop the corruption form spreading??

[wooden gyro]

Ohh i see, i just wasnt sure about the not being able to fight back part cuz it killed me before i had a chance to retaliate

[coarse wyvern]

Just remove all graves and it will stop spawning

[modern plume]

atp there isnt gonna be a jungle left in my world

[coarse wyvern]

Dig a 3x3 hole and fill it with non-corruptable blocks

[coarse wyvern]

Jungles immune to spread iirc

Chlorophyte fights spread

[wooden gyro]

I actually placed them on purpose cuz i recently found out that ecto mist wasnt a crafting station

[keen flax]

statue mimics are quite powerful
to avoid spawns, make sure there aren't too many gravestones around (a graveyard biome)
otherwise have nonnegative luck to decrease spawnrates
they drop the statue they represent upon death

[wooden gyro]

Thanks for the info

[mint fog]

stalker or molten quiver

[magic ore]

You can attack it
You will hear sound of braking block or something when you hit it

[modern plume]

nuh uh, my jungle pylon with the npcs got corrupted and the npcs went somewhere else

[keen flax]

in single player molten

[keen flax]

that's mostly for hm underground jungle

so the jungle that matters hehe

[coarse wyvern]

Just kill a mech and the steampunker will move and sell you the clentaminator

[magic ore]

No
Mushroom biomes are immune
Jungle is immune to hallow

[mint fog]

why, it just works for wooden arrows

[severe inlet]

doesn't matter

[cunning scaffold]

jungle is immune to conversion if in there's 5 chlorophyte ore nearby and jungle do actively change back dirt to mud counteracting the spread

[severe inlet]

but stalker still technically has an effect in singleplayer

making enemy detecting range less

[coarse wyvern]

20% damage

[keen flax]

in single player stalker = magic quiver

[severe inlet]

all quivers do that

and it's 10%

[mint fog]

oh i thought it just makes you like kinda invisible

[severe inlet]

nope

[mint fog]

or enemies dont notice u or whatever

molten then

[severe inlet]

but it does decerease enemy detection range

[coarse wyvern]

Ik I'm just mentioning why it's also good for non-normal

[severe inlet]

not sure how usefull that is

[severe inlet]

yes but what you said doesn't make sense when the question was molten or stalker quiver which both do that

[coarse wyvern]

I should play ranger again sometime huh

[severe inlet]

you can stack the quivers tho

for the damage (and decereased arrow consumption chance but that doesn't do that much)

wait no i don't think consumption chance stacks at all

[hoary tiger]

Can anyone tell me if the 'Dragon Egg' you get from OOA is a buff?

[severe inlet]

it's a pet

[keen flax]

velocity doesn't as well

[severe inlet]

yeah only damage

[brisk bison]

"The 10% arrow damage boost of the Magic Quiver can stack with the Molten Quiver and the Stalker's Quiver; however, arrow velocity, knockback, and ammo conservation chance do not stack."

[severe inlet]

but that's still alot like 30% damage on bows

[hoary tiger]

then why does my 'quick buff' summon the pet..?

[keen flax]

techincally, as it's a pet and having a pet gives a buff icon

[brisk bison]

so only the dmg

[severe inlet]

bc it's not a buff it's a pet

you need to equip it in the pet slot

[keen flax]

pets are ingame considered buffs, but don't buff your stats or anything

[brisk bison]

i dont think quiver stacking is that useful nowadays anyways

[severe inlet]

and you will have it permanently with you as long as you still have it equipped

[severe inlet]

never did it myself soo

[hoary tiger]

so the best way to dodge 'pet summon buff' is by either equipping a pet or just have no pets..?

[mint fog]

star veil or charm of myths

[languid juniper]

guys demonic starfury or superior amazon w counterweight for exploring?

[mint fog]

ranger

[severe inlet]

star veil

[sinful ocean]

Both

[languid juniper]

tf you mean both

[severe inlet]

i doubt you will need more than 2 healing pots during a boss fight
yet alone need it with in the 45 seconds of using one

[sinful ocean]

Your hotbar isn't confined to one weapon. Use both

[severe inlet]

starfury to discover caves in the underground that are dark
yoyo for attacking as long as yoyo can reach it

so yes

both

[brisk bison]

starfury can be used to hit stuff far away

[languid juniper]

aight what about bosses i got the amazon and a thorn chackram wich is better

[brisk bison]

and inside separate caves

[brisk bison]

chakram

[severe inlet]

chakram