celadon crypt feedback

[wheat birch]

its really good, no denying that.

i will say though that if the clear stays the same length i wont be running it. it's (imo obviously) extremely long, tedious, and boring, and it takes a lot away from what's a really good fight. some fixes could include lessening how many of those "respawn beacons" there are, as in the beacons that spawn mobs. as well as that, maybe reduce the mob amount slightly. i really like the pacing of rampant's clear, so maybe take some inspiration from that.

also the minions spawning in the boss are the only thing i dont like about the boss, i personally think it adds an element of rng in some phases where you're already microing small ballista shots in an already small area (big ballista shots), warden shots, and then the minions just make it a little annoying. i have this same gripe for prison and rampant.

damage is perfect, all of the patterns are perfect, ballista shots are really fun to dodge, and it has really good intensity to it. 👍

overall really good stuff, and im excited to see this quality in other dungeons coming forward (and the ones we have already).

[timber ridge]

clear length 💤 e

[wheat birch]

true 💯

[stuck ingot]

100%

[wheat birch]

the clear length is better now, but it's still not where i'd like to see it. the length is fine, but the clear is still tedious like i mentioned. the same issues still apply, like the respawn beacons and the high mob amount, but it's way more runnable now.

i hope the 4 rooms to 3 serves as a temporary bandaid fix rather than what the clear stays like, as it's still really boring to go through because of the insane density of the mobs, and the long range arrows making it very hard to get close to actually damage the mobs. the little shortcuts in the wall that crack open are pretty cool, though.

[quick tartan]

truth be told, i'd agree with this. i would prefer if the clear actually 2 rooms instead of 3. the first room being current clear difficulty, the second room being harder (lava on ground, slightly faster projectiles from enemies, booby traps, etc).

makes the clear less monotonous / more engaging (buildup to hard boss).

hp potion drop rates could be increased slightly to compensate increased difficulty / shorter clear

again, love the boss fight, but the clear feels monotonous (not necessarily boring or lackluster). probably difficult issue to solve when designing a dungeon clear, but i digress

[quick tartan]

now that i think about it, rotmg actually does exactly this with the o3 clear to mini boss.

[wheat birch]

you literally just explained o3 clear

[quick tartan]

yeah haha

[wheat birch]

o3 clear is like how a clear should be though so tbh take notes

[quick tartan]

hard agree. very engaging

[wheat birch]

its like the same f eeling when you get really bad ramp rooms too, it's just like monotonous like you described. i literally dont run rampants anymore because of how much of a snoozefest the clear is

[quick tartan]

yep. it's why ruins is my current favorite dungeon. all action. new dungeon could be better if the clear were refined a bit

[wheat birch]

agreed, ruins is my favorite. darza has a bit of lollygagging with 1st hands phase and hand rng if the group is a bunch of leechers but it's 2nd place. aside from dom's sometimes unfair last phase, ruins is p much perfect

i will say tho crypt is easily third the boss is THE BEST in the game, but the clear ruins a lot of it for me