Did I do dis right 🤔

[gentle tapir]

can i just close the lod

[fervent geyser]

alr

[gentle tapir]

lid

[fervent geyser]

i don't know, but i'd say no

[gentle tapir]

oh fuck

[fervent geyser]

?

[gentle tapir]

well i prob have to close the lid wait

@fervent geyser

[fervent geyser]

?

[gentle tapir]

i did this\

when i close the lit

lid

do nothing

[fervent geyser]

alright then

it should be fine i suppose

[gentle tapir]

when will u be on

next day

[fervent geyser]

GMT+03 is my timezone

its currently 23:37 for me

[gentle tapir]

ah alright

well ill ping you here probably okay?

[fervent geyser]

sure

[gentle tapir]

alright thanks

gn

bye

[fervent geyser]

bye

[echo totem]

@gentle tapir you finished installing at the end?

[gentle tapir]

nah

i had to go

[fervent geyser]

you didn't have to send me a friend request tbf

[gentle tapir]

Sorry sorry

@fervent geyser are you going to be on today?

[fervent geyser]

yeah i am here

we were at the configuring the system part i believe

[gentle tapir]

Ye but wait

[fervent geyser]

hows your laptop right now?

[gentle tapir]

I'll be on

[fervent geyser]

?

[gentle tapir]

Like

2 hours

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

I mean

[fervent geyser]

im still available by then

[gentle tapir]

I'll be on after 2 hours

Or idk how to say it sorry

[fervent geyser]

its fine

i understand

[gentle tapir]

Alright

[gentle tapir]

Good

Nothing happened

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

Do you play roblox

[fervent geyser]

i do, in fact my username right now is my roblox username

[gentle tapir]

Ah lol

Bro they ruined the classic faces

[fervent geyser]

indeed

i look soulless

[gentle tapir]

Such a bad update

Look at mine man

[fervent geyser]

damn

[gentle tapir]

And it doesn't even show the value of the face

Oh wow you joined roblox in 2016

[fervent geyser]

mhm

though i did play the game much earlier

but as a guest

like in early 2010s

[gentle tapir]

Damn wow

My account is made in 2014

It was my brother's account

But it was empty

So i bought some stuff

[fervent geyser]

i see

[gentle tapir]

Alright well I'll ping you when I'll be on

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

@fervent geyser hey are you on

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

im back on the laptop

where were we at

[fervent geyser]

configuring the system iirc

[gentle tapir]

ye here

sysklogd

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

wat now

[fervent geyser]

oh nvm the chapter is installing system tools

anyway

[gentle tapir]

oh ye

[fervent geyser]

rc-update add sysklogd default

did yo udo that?

[gentle tapir]

ze here

[fervent geyser]

alr

optional, but handbook says its wise to do so:

cron daemon

for example, sys-process/cronie

[gentle tapir]

emerge --ask sys-process/cronie

this?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

okay

[fervent geyser]

then rc-update add cronie default

[gentle tapir]

doing it

done

did rc-update add cronie default aswell

[fervent geyser]

okay

this might be recommended too if you use bash:

app-shells/bash-completion

this is just a package

so not a service

[gentle tapir]

i cant find it

emerge --ask app-shells/bash-completion

this?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

emerging

[fervent geyser]

aftyer that is done

this one is also recommended

time synchronization

which is net-misc/chrony

[gentle tapir]

chrony?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

emerge --ask net-misc/chrony

alright

[fervent geyser]

and rc-update

[gentle tapir]

okay

[fervent geyser]

for rc-update, its chronyd

[gentle tapir]

rc-update add chronyd default

[fervent geyser]

yes

after that

[gentle tapir]

done

[fervent geyser]

i think this one is already done but to check still

emerge -s sys-fs/e2fsprogs

this might be needed for your filesystem

but i think you might already have it

if it shows not installed

[gentle tapir]

emerge --ask sys-block/io-scheduler-udev-rules

[fervent geyser]

also emerge that

[gentle tapir]

this one?

[fervent geyser]

?

no

oh wait

well idk about that but it seems to be recommended for nvme devices

since i only have SATA

[gentle tapir]

i got nvme

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

which one do i do

emerge -s sys-fs/e2fsprogs

or the other one

or both

[fervent geyser]

the emerge -s one does not really do anything since it just searches for a package

[gentle tapir]

oh

[fervent geyser]

its to make sure you have that installed

for your filesystem

[gentle tapir]

ill do it

[fervent geyser]

if it mentions not installed, emerge it

[gentle tapir]

app found 2

[fervent geyser]

show a picture

[fervent geyser]

oh okay you have it installed

now emerge that io one

[gentle tapir]

emerge --ask sys-block/io-scheduler-udev-rules

okay

donee

[fervent geyser]

now its almost over

configuring the bootloader

[gentle tapir]

wow

[fervent geyser]

you proably have grub installed already so

[gentle tapir]

idk if i do

[fervent geyser]

check with emerge -s

[gentle tapir]

whats the package

[fervent geyser]

sys-boot/grub, but you can just type in grub

as its a search thingy

[fervent geyser]

yeah grub is there

its installed

now

put in GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-64" to /etc/portage/make.conf

[fervent geyser]

mhm

now

to install grub to your system

which should be this:

grub-install --efi-directory=/efi

[gentle tapir]

grub-install --efi-directory=/efi

alright

[fervent geyser]

no errors reported?

[fervent geyser]

if so, good

okay

[gentle tapir]

ill brb a min

gotta help my dad

[fervent geyser]

alr

just in case
when you come back, do grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to configure grub so you can easily boot into your system via the grub bootloader menu

[gentle tapir]

back

@fervent geyser

sorry if i took too long

[fervent geyser]

its fine

[gentle tapir]

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

i run this?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[fervent geyser]

alright

a few more last commands

but also a question

do you want to create an user later?

or right now?

[gentle tapir]

ye why not

[fervent geyser]

firstly

you still remember your sudo password right?

[gentle tapir]

um

im pretty sure

[fervent geyser]

okay

in that case

[gentle tapir]

ye

i do

[fervent geyser]

now emerge the package app-admin/sudo or app-admin/doas

[gentle tapir]

which one

do i choose

[fervent geyser]

depends on your usecase

doas is easier to configure but

not very much supported in online scripts

sudo on the other hand

[gentle tapir]

ill stick with sudo

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

emerge --ask app-admin/sudo

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

emerging

done

[fervent geyser]

okay

also remove that stage3 tar.xz file you wget'ed way back

since its no longer needed

[gentle tapir]

how

[fervent geyser]

its in the root of the filesystem

rm /stage3-*

[gentle tapir]

rm /stage3-*

okay

done

[fervent geyser]

ls / to make sure its gone

[fervent geyser]

yup, that's good

[gentle tapir]

okay

[gentle tapir]

what now

[fervent geyser]

oh ffs my cursor blocks a flag in that command

that is -s by the way

[gentle tapir]

useradd -m -G users,wheel,audio -s /bin/bash john

[fervent geyser]

yeah should be it

you can optionally add video to the -G too

[gentle tapir]

done

[fervent geyser]

okay

now passwd john

[gentle tapir]

i didnt add that

[fervent geyser]

its fine

you can add it later

[gentle tapir]

i did that aswell

[fervent geyser]

okay

now do EDITOR=nano visudo

to make it so you can run sudo when you are in the wheel group

the change is nearly at the bottom of the file

[gentle tapir]

wait what where

[fervent geyser]

it should be at the bottom

show a picture

[gentle tapir]

of my terminal?

[fervent geyser]

well the sudoers file

[gentle tapir]

brb eating

[fervent geyser]

which you are editing right now

[gentle tapir]

im not in that sudoers file

[fervent geyser]

well no problem

you just need to uncomment a line

[gentle tapir]

back

[fervent geyser]

okay let me show the line to uncomment rq

[gentle tapir]

@fervent geyser whats the file to go in

cuz this is where im at

[fervent geyser]

type in EDITOR=nano visudo

to edit the sudoers file

[gentle tapir]

oh

LMAO

ye im in

[fervent geyser]

always use visudo to edit it by the way, as other editors can cause problems

now go t othe bottom

[gentle tapir]

im therre

[fervent geyser]

## Uncomment to allow members of group wheel to execute any command
# %wheel ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL```

remove the # on that %wheel part

[gentle tapir]

there

[fervent geyser]

alright

[gentle tapir]

done

[fervent geyser]

i believe this may be all, so now the last steps are

make sure to do these commands IN ORDER

top to bottom

this will exit the chroot, unmount those stuff and reboot the system

[gentle tapir]

wat is tis

@fervent geyser

[fervent geyser]

okay if that doesn't work in my case doing just umount -a will work

don't need to do umount -R /mnt/gentoo if you do umount -a

after umount -a you can reboot

[gentle tapir]

nono

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader

oops

umount -l /mnt/gentoo/dev{/shm,/pts,}

this didnt work

[fervent geyser]

yeah i saw

if that doesn't work, instead do umount -a

that works in my case

[gentle tapir]

umount -a /mnt/gentoo/dev{/shm,/pts,}

this?

[fervent geyser]

no

umount -a

just this

[gentle tapir]

ok

[fervent geyser]

alright

those being busy does not matter

after all that now all one thing to do

reboot

[gentle tapir]

did it umount em tho

[fervent geyser]

it likely did

[gentle tapir]

umount -R /mnt/gentoo

and dont i have to do dis

[fervent geyser]

skip that

[gentle tapir]

I'm on phone now lemme reboot

And pray

[fervent geyser]

because in my experience of installing gentoo

i just did umount -a then reboot

and it worked

[gentle tapir]

Alright

[fervent geyser]

so hows it?

did it work?

[gentle tapir]

Ye just gotta log in

[fervent geyser]

good job

you now installed gentoo

and since you want kde plasma too

you should probably do a few more tweaks

[gentle tapir]

I logged on yay

In

Not in KDE tho

That's normal right?

[fervent geyser]

yeah its just a TTY atm

did you also install plasma-meta

check via emerge -s

[gentle tapir]

I don't have wifi

[fervent geyser]

oh yeah

nmtui then i guess

[gentle tapir]

Um

[fervent geyser]

oh yeah yeah

sudo rc-update add iwd default

and sudo rc-service iwd start

you have iwd installed via networkmanager so start that

iwd is a supplicant so maybe that's why the error happened

[gentle tapir]

Wait no I typed my pw wrong

[fervent geyser]

oh

[gentle tapir]

Got wifi yay

I forgot that my keyboard layout is Hungarian now

[fervent geyser]

yeah

now check with emerge -s plasma-meta

plasma-meta is recommended to properly install and setup kde plasma

[fervent geyser]

okay you should emerge it

[gentle tapir]

emerge - - ask plasma-meta

[fervent geyser]

emerge -a kde-plasma/plasma-meta OR emerge -ag kde-plasma/plasma-meta

[gentle tapir]

Oops

Ah

Which one

[fervent geyser]

g means binary

meta packages may have many dependencies

so

[gentle tapir]

Emerging

[fervent geyser]

okay

[gentle tapir]

290 holy shit

[fervent geyser]

damn

[gentle tapir]

This will take a while

[fervent geyser]

yeah its the rest of plasma

[gentle tapir]

Well ye

6

😭

What after this?

[fervent geyser]

after that

you should set your default display manager to sddm

im gonna try to find how first since i forgot that

[gentle tapir]

Alright

[gentle tapir]

122 out of 290

[fervent geyser]

did you do without -g?

[gentle tapir]

Ye

[fervent geyser]

oh well then it may take a while

[gentle tapir]

😭

Well it's okay I can wait

[gentle tapir]

201 out of 290

[gentle tapir]

It's still doing its thing

230

[gentle tapir]

@fervent geyser it finished

What now

@fervent geyser

Oh your offline

Well lmk when your on

[gentle tapir]

I'll go we can continue next day @fervent geyser

[gentle tapir]

@fervent geyser yoo

[fervent geyser]

hey

sorry i was a it busy

bit*

[gentle tapir]

What's up

Na it's okay lol

R u free rn?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

Wanna continue?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

Alright lemme boot up

[fervent geyser]

so you were at kde-plasma/plasma-meta i believe?

[gentle tapir]

Ye it installed

[fervent geyser]

alright, you can look into this now

change your display manager to sddm so yeah

[gentle tapir]

Let me get wifi ready

[fervent geyser]

and then enable its service

does it not auto connect?

[gentle tapir]

Why is it even live cd rn

It was tux yesterday

[fervent geyser]

hold on

i've had a similar issue but that was in a virtual machine when installing gentoo there

the hostname literally didn't change from livecd

but technically it was an installation

[gentle tapir]

I mean i don't mind it

[fervent geyser]

that's weird

[gentle tapir]

Cuz everything's done right?

[fervent geyser]

yeah

[gentle tapir]

Alr

[fervent geyser]

so anyways

[gentle tapir]

I have wifi now

Nice

[fervent geyser]

you can now emerge display-manager-init

[gentle tapir]

Didn't even have to connect

[fervent geyser]

oh

alr

[gentle tapir]

I didn't have yesterday remember

I had to connect

[fervent geyser]

also protip, you don't have to type out the full atom of the package to emerge

you can just type the package name itself without the category

but sometimes it is necessary to include the category

[gentle tapir]

This right?

This lifecd is weird tho yesterday it was tux

[fervent geyser]

wait hold on

[gentle tapir]

Live*

[fervent geyser]

did you type in list instead of init?

at the end of the package name

[gentle tapir]

Ye accident

I just

[fervent geyser]

yeah you can now emerge it

[gentle tapir]

Realized aswell

Just woke up

Emerged

[fervent geyser]

i'll repost the image rq so you don't have to scroll up

[gentle tapir]

Ah Oka

[fervent geyser]

now edit the file there

/etc/conf.d/display-manager

and add those contents it shows there

if its already there, just change whatever it is to sddm

oh also one last thing before you boot up kde plasma

you should also emerge the nvidia-drivers

[gentle tapir]

Alright

Do i finish the

[fervent geyser]

though it will require a reboot after that

[gentle tapir]

Sddm tho

[fervent geyser]

yeah sure

after that

[gentle tapir]

Or the drivers first

[fervent geyser]

emerge drivers then

also remember the dist-kernel use flag we did back then?

[gentle tapir]

Ye

[fervent geyser]

yeah its needed for dist kernels like gentoo-kernel-bin for nvidia-drivers

[gentle tapir]

Ah

Do i start sddm

[fervent geyser]

not yet

[gentle tapir]

Alright

[fervent geyser]

i think you should first install the drivers so it also uses your GPU

then reboot

[gentle tapir]

I'm done with rc update

[gentle tapir]

Okay

[fervent geyser]

okay

x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers should be it

[gentle tapir]

Doing it

1 package only

[fervent geyser]

okay

after it is done emerging, reboot to make sure the kernel finds and uses your GPU

[gentle tapir]

Okay

Done

Let me reboot

[fervent geyser]

alright

you can also type in nvidia-smi to make sure it works after logging in

or well

you already enabled the sddm thing so

it should already do the job now

[gentle tapir]

Yay we have sddm

[fervent geyser]

nice

[gentle tapir]

Wow working

[fervent geyser]

you'll probably want to install some apps too though

such as a terminal emulator

[gentle tapir]

Ye

And folders

Cuz there's nothing

[fervent geyser]

dolphin should be good for kde

and konsole is kde's native terminal emulator

[gentle tapir]

But let me get librewolf first so I don't have to use my phone

[fervent geyser]

wait

librewolf can take long to compile

so you should FIRST use the -bin one

or well, you can just use the -bin one all the time lol

[gentle tapir]

Ah okay

Wait

How do i get anything lmao I don't even have a terminal

[fervent geyser]

you should go back to a TTY via CTRL+ALT+F2 to F7 to switch to a TTY

[gentle tapir]

I prob also need a power-profiles-daemon

Cuz of my laptop

[fervent geyser]

you can emerge it directly anyway so yeah no problem

then rc-update it

[gentle tapir]

Alright wait

So what do I do first

[fervent geyser]

i guess you should go to a TTY via ctrl+alt+f2

it can range from f2 to f7

[gentle tapir]

Ye i am there

[fervent geyser]

okay you can now emerge anything you need

such as konsole

[gentle tapir]

What's the package

[fervent geyser]

kde-apps/konsole iirc

its kde's native terminal

[gentle tapir]

Emerge - - ask kde-apps/konsole

[fervent geyser]

you also have packages.gentoo.org to look up packages

[gentle tapir]

Okay

[fervent geyser]

and yes

[fervent geyser]

or yet again, with emerge --search (-s) or --searchdesc (-S)

[gentle tapir]

Okay

Done

What else do u recommend

[fervent geyser]

i guess you can go back to the kde environment now

via ctrl+alt+f1

and then open up konsole and continue on from there

also about that

you can emerge kde-apps/dolphin too

for the file manager

[gentle tapir]

I. Can't go back to plasma

[fervent geyser]

you should reboot then i guess

[gentle tapir]

Okay

Okay yay

It works

Doing dolphin aswell

Done dolphin

@fervent geyser what else should I get for my laptop

[fervent geyser]

i guess a web browser?

[gentle tapir]

Oh ye

Lmao

[fervent geyser]

and everything else is i leave up to you

you can take a look at https://packages.gentoo.org for more info

[gentle tapir]

Alright thanks

There's no Librewolf wow

I'll go with Firefox then

[fervent geyser]

you need a separate repository for librewolf

you can enable it via eselect

but you first need the app-eselect/eselect-repository package

[gentle tapir]

Oh

I mean chromium is fine

But

Look

[fervent geyser]

don't even try lol

chromium takes OVER 10 hours

[gentle tapir]

Holy fuck okay then

What's the

Lightest

[fervent geyser]

you should go for the -bin ones

[gentle tapir]

That like doesn't take too much

[fervent geyser]

like firefox-bin

[gentle tapir]

Ah okay

[fervent geyser]

if you later on want the source version, you can then emerge the source version and remove the binary one

[gentle tapir]

Getting Firefox-bin

Yay done

[fervent geyser]

alright

from now on, you can play around with your system

and learn more

since you have managed to install gentoo

[gentle tapir]

How do i get flatpak

Since i need roblox and steam

[fervent geyser]

oh that's easy

just emerge sys-apps/flatpak

[gentle tapir]

And like a text editor

[fervent geyser]

a text editor well

you can emerge kde-apps/kate for kde's text editor

which is pretty good btw

[gentle tapir]

Alright

[fervent geyser]

also about flatpak

you can go ahead and emerge kde-plasma/discover too

for a gui frontend

[gentle tapir]

Okay

[fervent geyser]

oh also there's the flatpak use flag

though im not sure if its already on for you

[gentle tapir]

I'll check, I'm getting kate

Getting /discovrr

Discover

How do i add this to default

[fervent geyser]

?

[gentle tapir]

@fervent geyser

[fervent geyser]

remove the sys-power/

its just power-profiles-daemon

[gentle tapir]

Oh

[fervent geyser]

do not confuse service names with package names

[gentle tapir]

Um

[fervent geyser]

prepend add

rc-update add

[gentle tapir]

Oh

Done

Okay working

Let's get flatpak

This is pretty much all I needed

[fervent geyser]

alright good

[gentle tapir]

on roblox when i do high quality i only get 60 fps

idk why

even when i uncapped the framerate

it might be using the integrated graphics

@fervent geyser

[fervent geyser]

i do not know anything about that honestly

sorry

[gentle tapir]

damn

[fervent geyser]

if yo uaren't sure

check nvidia-smi

[gentle tapir]

it says driver off

dam kde kinda heavy

[gentle tapir]

ye the game is not running on my gpu

idk how to solve this one

[odd hedge]

DONT DO THAT ITS OUTDATED LOL

[echo totem]

I knew it was kind of weird to have 32Gb of Swap but the wiki said that

Why would you even need that much swap

[echo totem]

Wait you said it was outdated? So there was a time where you needed ram x2 of swap?

[echo totem]

you shouldnt need 64Gib of RAM by any means

at that point you are just sacrificing disk space vainly

also having a lot of swap space != to compiling faster

there's a reason we have little RAM and lots of disk space and that it is faster to accesses RAM

using non volatile memory like disk space is hundreds to thousands of times slower than RAM

[gentle tapir]

I gave up anyways it was hard, I'm learning the basics first lol

[echo totem]

You are right

When I said 64Gib of RAM I meant Swap not actual ram

Bit you are right it all depends on the person but there is a point in which more swap != more efficient compilation

[odd hedge]

i use 6gb its the sweet spot for me

[echo totem]

I use 4Gib and I also have 12Gb of RAM. I believe it really depends on how much RAM your system consumes. I barely go over 5Gib of RAM so my swap is never over 1Gib

[gentle tapir]

Hi

@fervent geyser Yo

Today I'll reinstall it

Maybe

[odd hedge]

late response but yeah

i did 6gigs just in case