misty fox
Video cards: Intel Arc Graphics + Nvidia 4070 Mobile (Proprietary drivers)
At first plasmashell would log that Qt could not load qpa platform but then I set it to wayland and it says dbus is not activated. I actually activated it on default mode in openrc.
I just want to open it in wayland mode even if I have to use only arc graphics
It runs fine on xorg
Just black screen with cursor, I removed the variable
Just alt f2? Nothing happens
Do you want me to open tty?
Yes
Oh
I could move it to the top
It shown me this
Sorry for the bad quality btw
Ph
Oh
It worked
One minute
Let me just install a decent browser
But my profile is 0.23 stable destkop plasma openrc
Dont worry
I have qtwebengine compiled
Actually
Its strange because its the last version from this profile
The nvidia drivers also
Yes
Let me see
I just installed it today
One moment
misty fox
https://paste.gentoo.zip/cKA57Z3f @west bay
Falkon segfaults on startup
Wtf is happening to my system
But nevermind
I just dont want to use the trick
misty fox
The thing is that it appears that kwin itself is launching in xwayland mode
So things like vscode do not work even with special flags
I am updating to the last testing version
Just finished manually unmasking all this qt crap
You are such a fuckin wizard man
I will try it and tell you
Thank you anyways
Second time
I just switched from gnome because the wayland option disappeared after i recompiled the @world
My screen is qhd so I cant use it without the fractional scaling wayland provides
And the security
misty fox
Yes
I used those
Very strange
I ended up swithing to suse
Installed this
For a while
Its kwin, probably
My drivers are fine
Portage somehow fogot my locale too
Warnings everywhere
Will stay on suse until next driver update, but I really wanted these otimizations I researched for days
But unfortunately i need wayland for work
Yeah
I tried hyprland
I embarassed myself by using it on a presentation
The video didnt scale well
And I had to hack the configs in the front of my entire classroom
Will try it later
Marking this as solved for now
Thank you anyways
Fish?
If it didnt come with the profile, I probably dont
Hmmm
Do I really need to set bash on a fresh install?
Is the default sh or something
Fuck
I remeber
My gnome also had wayland stopping working whem I switched my default bash to zsh
I am a newbie
I will do the following (when I have time):
Yes
Same thing as me
Fuck
Maybe send me you useflags for windowing (Not from the plasma profile. The global useflags, and those in packages related to windowing)
Thats how I wanted it to be
If possible, your global use flags related to plasma and graphics too
And your modprobe
Will make a install with those
modprobe.d/nvidia.conf
Yeah
Oh I see
What about your env?
Yeah
I will check out
For sure
It was supposed to work out of the box
But I will try
Basically you offloaded your entire system
But still got something on iGPU
Interesting
This is basically what optimus does
Probably passing the iGPU rendered framebuffer through your dGPU
We have such similar hardware
Will try again and make another thread if the problem persist
I really want to use gentoo because of lto and graphite
Cs2 would run with 20-40+ fps than windows
Probably because the rest of the system is not using too much cycles
Niice setup
Lot of monitors, you should be very productive
I only have one hdmi but have two usb c with one thunderbolt
I will buy one for coding and gaming
Same price in Brazil, maybe a little cheaper
I just need one monitor right now, so I will stick to the monitor usbc cables
But I didnt even know people used ethernet like this
Thank you so much, Gentoo wizard
I wish I become like you
misty fox
The TRICK is official now hehe
Actually I tried to install Gentoo again today
No success on gnome
The logs said shell was missing some systemd stuff
At least from my understanding
Im on openrc
But
I think the root of this problem is something related to my iGpu
Because if the problem was the dgpu
You could not run wayland when you update
Because you also have 4070 Mobile
I was not the only one with this problem
I found 1 person with the exact same problem as me in a similar moment in time (where I updated or messed something up some days ago)
Gonna wait some time until new versions of the compositors, shells and drivers stabilizes
Because on suse its fine afaik
misty fox
Yes
Everything was on default
(The placeholder)
Oh
I fogot to mention
I did not installed the nvidia drivers nor selected nvidia on video_cards in this installation
Because if nvidia was the problem, without the driver, I could run Wayland with minor tweaks in gdm config
So its like 75% chance that the problem is related with my iGPU
I did not try with kde again because most of the project is c++ which takes much longer to compile even with all my cores
But it is the same pattern (quite)
misty fox
@west bay gnome on suse use wayland by default
It does not even show xorg option
On hybrid graphics
Guess I will have to wait until gentoo ships official gnome 48
I could create my own ebuilds but it would take much more time because I have to update the 200 minor packages too
misty fox
@west bay Sorry, me again. I am thinking if doing a fresh install with systemd and debugging the issue better with journalctl is a good idea? Because listen, every major desktop environment expects some of the features of systemd, which have been ported for OpenRC over time like elogind. My gnome session also said in those logs that expected some systemd feature. So, do you think it is worth the try? I think a systemd installation would not affect the performance of my system because most of its functionality have been “pollyfiled” into openrc anyway, and I can avoid to get a separate cron daemon by using systemd timers.
misty fox
@west bay I discovered the problem, and why you didn’t noticed it on your hardware
It has to do with the flags I used to build my system
When looking at the logs, I noticed the cause of the issue was that Xwayland.so was crashing (segfaulting)
But on your hardware that is very similar to me it doesn’t
And then I remembered
Everything started when I rebuilt @world
I rebuilt world because I would like to apply some new cflags
With one being particularly problematic
fno-semantic-interposition
It can break shared objects at some circumstances
Will reproduce the problem tomorrow with less optimizing flags and report here
If confirmed, I will probably add a note in the Xwayland gentoo wiki about this
Because the Gentoo wiki actually says building with this flag globally is safe
misty fox
Ok
I found a Issue long ago with a person with the same problem as me with kde because of this flag
Exactly this flag
And this thing is segfaulting
Should be because of my aggressive opts
O2
i use GentooLTO optimisations with O2 instead
Its not enabled by default even in O3
Its an old repo that basically autogenerated lto confs system wide for gentoo
It had some extra optimisations enabled
Like graphite
And this one I said
I will find the issue
Actually its other flag I use
But I will disable both
Just want to be like you, boss
Thank you
Wont use it too for now
Its safe then
Do you use lto system wide?
Nicee
So im sure its one of those 3 extra flags from gentoo lto
Will try flag by flag until it breaks (again)
Interesting
But after 5 failed installations
I just want a stable one hehe
Like on the build stage?
Oh ok
Do you disable lto manually for each one?
I think I never had issues with lto outside the packages that didnt even build because of the warning flags
Very strange
I think gcc is kind of bad for lto
I think rust enables by default
The only reason Im not using system clang is because it cant build glibc and it cant build with musl
The gnu project basically locked glibc to gcc
I mean
System wide
May not be a good idea
It will use a lot more of disk space since it statically links to the entire system
And its still in development
System-wide?
You can install a glibc version just for that
They do a tech called chrooting glibc
For programs that depend on it
I think flatpak actually downloads glibc too
Dunno
I dont even like guru, but probably because of other reasons
misty fox
I dont even like guru, but probably because of other reasons
I will often audit packages one by one and put them in a separate overlay
Because of security
Yes
And 2 more
You can look at my initial make.conf
No
In make.conf
Directly
These 3 last flags
They are probably problematic
Xwayland is failing
Probably it has something to do with dynamic linking techniques
Xwayland will automatically start with plasmashell and mutter
And it segfaulted on the logs
Yeah
Its a mandatory dependency
And x11 works well for me
I just need the fractional scaling and the extra security
Will build with safer flags
Look at your pstree
The problem can also be in mutter or plasmshell but its very unlikely
Gonna do this
Because other things can break
And I barely know how to install browser extensions
Cant install gentoo more 5 times if it breaks
But if something happens because of lto will try this
Yeah but I dont use extensions
I just installed bitwarden once
Its open source at least
Is it cli?
Interesting
I need this when working with git
Gonna try
Will just install here and I come back later to tell you what happened
