Installing Gentoo for the first time | Gentoo Linux Community | Page 1

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 4:36 PM

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i'm trying to install Gentoo and dual boot it with CachyOS. Any advices? What is the best way to install it?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:16 PM

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is there anything you're trying to do like a shared home partition?

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:20 PM

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i was trying to do inside my actual cachyos install

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but it turns out i can't actually use most of the commands

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so i think it's not the right way to do it?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:21 PM

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dull pendant i was trying to do inside my actual cachyos install

you can

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 PM

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well i couldn't pass this: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 PM

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which step specifically?

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 PM

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"emerge" or "eselect" i can't use those

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:22 PM

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you'll need to chroot into the install

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:23 PM

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oh

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:23 PM

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i think arch has arch-chroot or smth

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idk if its installed by default though

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:23 PM

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chroot /mnt/gentoo?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:23 PM

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yea

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and then source the profile file

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under /etc/profile

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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chroot: failed to run command ‘/usr/bin/bash’: Exec format error

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atomscry

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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https://github.com/oddlama/gentoo-install

GitHub

GitHub - oddlama/gentoo-install: A gentoo installer with a TUI inte...

A gentoo installer with a TUI interface that supports systemd and OpenRC, EFI and BIOS, as well as variable disk layouts using ext4, zfs, btrfs, luks and mdraid. - oddlama/gentoo-install

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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did you get an arm64 base 😭

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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random meteor https://github.com/oddlama/gentoo-install

Have you tried this?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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random meteor https://github.com/oddlama/gentoo-install

please dont

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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chilly comet please dont

Why?

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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chilly comet did you get an arm64 base 😭

i don't think so?

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lemme check

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:24 PM

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random meteor Why?

its better to just do the install at least once to get used to the tools

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imo

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:25 PM

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i get an arm64 base

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oof

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:25 PM

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simd

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:25 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/violet-wtf-spit-take-spit-water-gagged-gif-5590139569255826240

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:25 PM

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no embed 💔 🥀

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https://tenor.com/view/violet-wtf-spit-take-spit-water-gagged-gif-5590139569255826240

Tenor

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:26 PM

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can i just override the arm64 tarball then?

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:26 PM

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chilly comet its better to just do the install at least once to get used to the tools

It's subjective
The link I sent takes much less time. I already skipped steps before I knew this existed with arch-chroot. A lot pre install isn't used post

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:26 PM

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random meteor It's subjective The link I sent takes much less time. I already skipped steps b...

well you know how to do basic linux installation

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:26 PM

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dull pendant can i just override the arm64 tarball then?

not really

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just umount the gentoo directory and delete it

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or delete everything inside of it

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:27 PM

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random meteor https://github.com/oddlama/gentoo-install

If you want to do the hard way, don't use this as you won't be able to brag on "I use Gentoo btw" as a meme

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:28 PM

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random meteor If you want to do the hard way, don't use this as you won't be able to brag on "...

LMAO

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i actually want to do it manually one time at least

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as i did with arch

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:29 PM

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Arch install script sucks

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:29 PM

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fr

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no they got the wrong tarball

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:32 PM

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i'm going to wipe the partition and start again

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i can't do much now

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udo umount /dev/sda4 umount: /mnt/gentoo: target is busy.

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i will have to wipe the drive and install gento in it, probably

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I hear other people install gentoo from inside another OS

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:37 PM

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yes i'm trying it

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but

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it's

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so

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difficult

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:37 PM

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I did the live GUI

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:37 PM

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i will probably do this one

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lemme just burn the image

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3GB why?

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because of the KDE environment?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:38 PM

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random meteor I hear other people install gentoo from inside another OS

i mean thats what you are doing with a live media install

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:39 PM

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chilly comet i mean thats what you are doing with a live media install

Well it installs from a USB drive instead of the device you are installing to which makes managing partitions easier

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:40 PM

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i wish i was more intelligent

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:41 PM

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jay eazy

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:41 PM

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atomscry

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:41 PM

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dull pendant i wish i was more intelligent

You shouldn't judge your smarts with a Gentoo install, Gentoo is not called beginer friendly for a reason

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Linux from scratch would be the more difficult install though

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:42 PM

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perchance

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:42 PM

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is gentoo more difficult than nix?

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:43 PM

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dull pendant is gentoo more difficult than nix?

Gentoo isn't difficult outside the install which is why I linked the script

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:43 PM

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nix systemtap

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:43 PM

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so it should be okay when installed?

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i will use it more cutting-edge tho

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hope it don't breaks

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:44 PM

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i mean you'll have to learn how to use USE flags and keywording and stuff

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but its not too difficult after you get used to it

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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dull pendant so it should be okay when installed?

Gentoo by default uses stable packages that might be older than Debian, so you have to put ~amd64 per package you want to use testing on
Also you can limit the package version, or toggle what is installed with each package

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Portage is easy to learn

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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random meteor Gentoo by default uses stable packages that might be older than Debian, so you h...

or set it globally hexlocation

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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your friend is bach-completion

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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chilly comet or set it globally <:hexlocation:1325133591549710497>

No

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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~amd64 should make it more like arch?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:45 PM

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no

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its not the equivalent of the arch experience

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 PM

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never set ~amd64 global as it will enable testing packages on everything

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testing packages can break

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 PM

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stable is usually recent enough

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 PM

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two global flags I would put in a make.conf are pulseaudio and pipewire

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 PM

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chilly comet its not the equivalent of the arch experience

so i can't use the most recent packages?

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:46 PM

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dull pendant so i can't use the most recent packages?

i mean you can

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just use the 9999 keyword

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trolley

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:47 PM

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atomscry

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:47 PM

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chilly comet just use the 9999 keyword

that is for getting directly from the latest commit made which is even more risky than testing

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:47 PM

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yes

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:47 PM

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i mean

chilly comet Mar 27, 2025, 6:48 PM

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i was joking when they said latest package

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:48 PM

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i'm not saying the most unstable ones

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just the newer stable ones

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at least

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like the kernel 6.14

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Gentoo and Arch are on similar kernel versions on ~amd64
I am on 6.14

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:48 PM

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oh

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neat

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:49 PM

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Did I misunderstand?

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I thought green was stable

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:50 PM

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there it says 6.13.8 tho

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the lastest one

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:50 PM

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That is for the dist kernel

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:50 PM

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oh

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:51 PM

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gentoo-sources allows you to build your own kernel, but I recomend using the dist kernel, or better, debian as a base config

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 6:51 PM

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i will probably just install the cachyos one

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or the one from mainline

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 6:59 PM

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Just remember to use make oldconfig and then tweak further in make menuconfig while reading the gentoo wiki for your hardware

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 7:01 PM

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Here it says "swapon failed: operation not permitted"

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Why?

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Oh i was not in root

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Silly me

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Openrc or systemd?

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I kinda prefer systemd the bootloader idk

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I was always using it

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But i think systemd fixed a memory clock bug i had

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So i kinda prefer systemd boot now

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What -march=native actually does?

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There is this rustflags as well that might be worth

wraith jewel Mar 27, 2025, 7:20 PM

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dull pendant What -march=native actually does?

optimize building for your specific cpu

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 7:21 PM

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What about RUSTFLAGS=

wraith jewel Mar 27, 2025, 7:21 PM

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dull pendant What about RUSTFLAGS=

it's flags for rust compilation

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 7:21 PM

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It seems to optimize to level 3 on all releases builds?

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Is it fine to set?

wraith jewel Mar 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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yeah??

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check the handbook if you need more info too

dull pendant Mar 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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I'm sorry. It's just i never had to configure something like this before

steel reef Mar 27, 2025, 9:29 PM

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@dull pendant any progress?

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dont forget cpu2idflags

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or whatever its called

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if you follow the handbook itll give you a command to copy

violet wing Mar 27, 2025, 9:38 PM

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random meteor If you want to do the hard way, don't use this as you won't be able to brag on "...

youre the first person to ever say that btw

random meteor Mar 27, 2025, 11:16 PM

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violet wing youre the first person to ever say that btw

I use gentoo btw

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oh and debian trixie

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 5:46 AM

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did this work?:p

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 6:49 AM

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I was sleeping LMAO

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But so far it's fine

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 6:51 AM

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dull pendant I was sleeping LMAO

Because it was taking too long to update something

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 7:00 AM

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oh okay :D

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yeah it can take awhile to compile

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i usually install with binary packages only to make the installation go fast hehe

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 7:40 AM

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Even the binary packages is not so fast

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god_why

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I set it to use all my resources

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Gentoo is calling my pc weak

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 7:56 AM

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I got this error installing the kernel

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I'm so close

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And still something goes wrong

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 9:58 AM

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oh

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hmm

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with the bin package must be rare with errors

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and yeah its not super fast even with binary but i can do install in around 1-2 hours

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if you can look at the compile and see where it got the error it sometimes is something obivous

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:02 AM

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lucid yacht if you can look at the compile and see where it got the error it sometimes is so...

https://paste.gentoo.zip/zi3pq7Se

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god_why

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:03 AM

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oh

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[0;38;5;245mAbout to execute /usr/lib/kernel/install.d/95-efistub-kernel-bootcfg.install add 6.13.8-gentoo-dist /efi/gentoo/6.13.8-gentoo-dist /usr/src/linux-6.13.8-gentoo-dist/arch/x86/boot/bzImage[0m
[0;38;5;245mSuccessfully forked off '(exec-inner)' as PID 27322.[0m
ERROR: kernel-bootcfg-boot-successful service not enabled
[0;38;5;245m/usr/lib/kernel/install.d/95-efistub-kernel-bootcfg.install failed with exit status 1.[0m
[0;1;31m/usr/lib/kernel/install.d/95-efistub-kernel-bootcfg.install failed with exit status 1.[0m
[0;38;5;245m(sd-exec-strv) failed with exit status 1.[0m

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i guess there is the problem

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i dont run systemd so i have actually no clue about those stuff

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but i dont think its a huge problem

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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This is so difficult

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Should i use openrc then?

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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well you just havent done a step

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im guessing

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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What step?

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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not sure i dont run systemd :D

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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Lmao

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:04 AM

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but it cleary something about that

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i think atleast someone can correct me

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cause it says service not enable

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then it all fails

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so probably you just need to enable something

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@dull pendant dont worry my first install like 10 years ago took like 3 days

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god_why cause i had the shittiest laptop

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:14 AM

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In my case it's because i'm dumb atomscry

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:14 AM

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trolley

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:15 AM

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I think i will not be able to install this

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:15 AM

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i must say sometimes the handbook is abit confusing

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let me read the handbook about systemd

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it shouldnt really be hard to install just maybe take longer time

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:16 AM

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Why openrc tho?

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:16 AM

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i have very rarely have any install problems

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:16 AM

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Is it better than systemd?

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:16 AM

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cause im old

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xD

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i like simple stuff

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:17 AM

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I want to install in systemd just because it's more familiar to me

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But i'm starting to regret

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god_why

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:17 AM

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i think you only missed one little thing

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cause like it says service not enbled then fails ... idk feels very related

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:D

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:18 AM

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I really can't find it if i missed something

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:19 AM

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im not sure if its related to systemdboot or dracut

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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Maybe i set dracut wrong

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Idk

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Some things are a bit confusing

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:20 AM

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efistub-kernel-bootcfg imm read that part

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oh okay

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have you done this systemctl --enable --now kernel-bootcfg-boot-successful.service?

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:22 AM

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Noo

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god_why

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:22 AM

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idk if its the problem but it says not enable for you

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and then fails

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so... maybe

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thats one of the first section in the kernel page

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for efi stub

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oh no nevermind im on a specific efi stub page

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maybe the install guide is worse

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:23 AM

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"unrecognized option '--enable'"

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:24 AM

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🤔

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maybe you spelled wrong no clue that command should work

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well im not a big help cause i have never used systemd really

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so never read all the other steps

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:28 AM

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Idk what to do

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I think i will try openrc then

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:28 AM

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you could just wait and ask someone that have used systemd xd

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i mean it shouldnt be hard i guess

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did you install with the systemd stage?

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https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel but i guess your problem is somewhere on this page

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:32 AM

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Yes

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I will try some steps again then

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Oh

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:35 AM

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👀

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:35 AM

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I know my problem

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:35 AM

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you see :D

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usually rereading the handbook 100000000x times solves the problem

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xD

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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I did the step to efistub

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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that makes sense

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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But i'm using systemd bootloader

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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ah

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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Idk if it's the problem

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But lemme check

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:36 AM

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oh

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like

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yeah there are 3 sections there

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one should use one maybe you did like two

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:39 AM

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Yes i had did a step to efistub

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But i had installed systemd bootloader

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:39 AM

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i see i see

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hopefully it works now

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:40 AM

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I did this

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Yep

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The kernel is installed

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Dance

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After deleting that argument from the installkernel section

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:44 AM

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happy dance

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you see usually when something fails its something one did wrong and its just reread alot

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now i feel proud that i kinda figured it out also

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xD

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feeling smart

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 10:55 AM

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LMAO

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Absolutely

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 10:56 AM

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i have failed to install arch but not gentoo

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im not sure how i succeed in that

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xD

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:11 AM

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No way you could do gentoo and not arch lmao

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I'm suffering so much with gentoo

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And arch was breeze

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god_why

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Should i ignore this?

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I'm installing systemd bootloader now

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They say that is the worst arch

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I never used myself

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I don't use secureboot

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So idk

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But i think so

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:17 AM

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hm

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looks alarming but idk

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haha

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it dont looks like errors atleast

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:18 AM

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dull pendant And arch was breeze

well i also barely tried

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it just didnt boot and and went back to gentoo

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xD

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so hows AUR

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never used that

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the only distro i have used execpt gentoo last 10 years is void

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actually kinda liked void

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:21 AM

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What is happening

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god_why

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:22 AM

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you probably forgot to mount all the things in the handbook?

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maybe

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O_O

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oh

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:22 AM

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chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

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Yes

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

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wait running in chroot

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so yeah you should exit first

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

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Yes

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

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then umount

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

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It doesn't umount

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:23 AM

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i have never seen that error

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xd

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@dull pendant have you exited from chroot?

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:24 AM

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Ues

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Yes

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And it keep telling me it

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:24 AM

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spam exit

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idk xD

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:25 AM

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lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:25 AM

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well you shouldnt be in one anymore

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yeah

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:26 AM

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Now i'm in /mnt/gentoo

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:26 AM

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yeah you probably unmounted while in chroot

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and stuff worked half

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:26 AM

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Must be superuser to reboot lmao

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god_why

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What is happening

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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trolley what are you doing

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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They said to click CTRL+D

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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oh yea you just arent root

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sudo su

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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Now i'm here

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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or whatever

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:27 AM

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Well

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Done

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Let's see if it's installed correctly

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god_why WHY IS TAKING SO LONG

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Okay the installation failed

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I think so

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Yep

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Fail

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:30 AM

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sadhamster

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well atleast now the next time you try it will go pretty fast

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cause now you know what failed

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:30 AM

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lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:30 AM

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i have no clue what that is tbh

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xD

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yeah

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:31 AM

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Yes

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:31 AM

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maybe its something related to that first kernel fail

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that did something that was never fixed

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i have no clue

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:32 AM

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Aaaaaa

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:32 AM

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okay nevermind then :D

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i was thinking cause it runs dracut

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or whatever

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:32 AM

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Can i use script? ink_troll

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:33 AM

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grub works pretty fine for me

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xd

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:33 AM

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But i can use systemd bootloader on openrc

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I think

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But why openrc?

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:33 AM

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cause old

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:34 AM

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thonk

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:34 AM

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and was gentoo default

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:p

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:34 AM

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Here we go again

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:35 AM

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systemd octopuss

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touches everything :D

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:35 AM

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How much for the swap partition?

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I only use 4

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:36 AM

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i only use 2gb but it depends

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it need to be bigger if one use sleep and such right? i dont really use that

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or am i wrong

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i have never used that either lol

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:45 AM

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Installing openrc tarball now

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:45 AM

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xd

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poor ellie no systemd

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:46 AM

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atomscry

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:46 AM

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i mean you could just redo systemd one i think it would go smoother this time

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you probably just did like one thing wrong or forgot or whatever that made it all strange

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:48 AM

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I already installed the tarball

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Don't give me ideas

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god_why

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I will have to delete it otherwise

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Lmao

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And i'm so lazy rn

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I just want to rush it

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 11:50 AM

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trolley

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 11:53 AM

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I think my internet is really bad recently

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And this is affecting my downloads here

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Not so bad

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But not the ideal either

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What is the no-multilib profiles?

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Oooh

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Here i can add binary repositories

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Kinda like arch?

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What the-

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No-multilib

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I want

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Oooh

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It's the same repo as arch?

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simd

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Oh

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Sorry

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I'm dumb

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But it has kinda the same packages?

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I mean

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Steam

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Systemd for systemd boot loader?

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Or i don't need?

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Oh

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I'm going with the default one

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Stable

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Systemd fixed an old bug for me

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It seems

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Because i only used grub before

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But i had a memory clock bug

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Where it stayed at the lowest frequency

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And i couldn't play anymore

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So i had to choose another refresh-rate

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 12:16 PM

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that sounds like an extreme bug for a bootloader

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lol

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@dull pendant also no gentoo arent arch but you can do so it downloads precompiled packages instead of always compile it

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not every package exist tho but then it just compile it as usually

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 12:17 PM

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I added the arch binary packages there they showed in the handbook

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But i don't know if it worked

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Anyway it's installing the profile now

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 12:18 PM

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oh im stupid i thought we were talking about the distro arch

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XD i was like what

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 12:18 PM

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I was lmao

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 12:18 PM

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oh

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xD

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im so confused atm

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 12:18 PM

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I thought no-multilib

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Was something like the multilib repos on arch

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 12:19 PM

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no multilib = pure 64 bit OS

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makes some stuff harder to install

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depending on stuff

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trolley

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i saw that

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 12:28 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/linux-gentoo-computer-destroy-robot-gif-26277729

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 1:28 PM

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@dull pendant how its going xd

dull pendant Mar 28, 2025, 1:38 PM

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god_why

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I'm watching cartoon while doing it

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Otherwise i would be crazy already

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The binary packages i added it's not working

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What is wrong in it?

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rn_image_picker_lib_temp_806fcf53-eb08-44ea-9523-2917c544d4d9.jpg

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Oh

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This is not a valid one

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I think

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 4:52 PM

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im abit late but

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@dull pendant you dont really need to touch that

lucid yacht Mar 28, 2025, 6:28 PM

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@dull pendant you can check your DMs

faint bear Mar 29, 2025, 1:11 AM

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They can if they want -v3

brittle dune Mar 30, 2025, 6:41 AM

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But let's not recommend testing to people struggling with the install process 🙂

dull pendant Mar 30, 2025, 12:08 PM

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brittle dune But let's not recommend testing to people struggling with the install process 🙂

do you think it was that my mistake?

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using the testing argument already on the installation?

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i don't know if it can break something

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i could still add it after

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and make an update when gentoo is installed

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idk

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just trying to understand what was going wrong

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that is the only thing i did

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that no one on the videos i saw

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didn't

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i'm back to arch

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atomscry

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well, i'm a bit frustrated

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because i really did install yasterday

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but it didn't work anyway

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when i tried the first boot

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i mean it had only a bit of used storage

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i think it would have more

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because of everything it installed

brittle dune Mar 30, 2025, 8:07 PM

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dull pendant do you think it was that my mistake?

Reading though your comments I dont think you'll enjoy testing and it will give you a negative feeling towards gentoo

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Feel free to ignore me but just go in with your eyes open that any issues you find are your fault and not Gentoo

random meteor Mar 30, 2025, 8:16 PM

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Bluetooth breaks for me in kernel 6.14 unless I disable compression for firmware

lucid yacht Mar 31, 2025, 7:59 AM

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oh i didnt see that people still talked in here

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i tried to give some tips in dms to ellie about the install :D

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i think the handbook can be confusing to new people

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yeah testing is a mix bag i run 3 software testing rest stable

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cause wayland and nvidia development seems to happen abit on the faster side

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atm im testing newest kde and it seems to be "more" stable on wayland then the stable one for me

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the older i get the more stable i want things to be

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 9:24 AM

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lucid yacht i tried to give some tips in dms to ellie about the install :D

Please don't do it in DMs

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This teaches very bad practices which lead to hackers taking over people computers

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Please read the rules moving forward

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 9:31 AM

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lucid yacht i think the handbook can be confusing to new people

Any more details?

dull pendant Mar 31, 2025, 11:16 AM

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brittle dune Any more details?

i really did follow the handbook right

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idk if i mounted wrong or something

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but everything was not there after anymore

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i must have mounted wrong

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i will try on a VM

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 3:19 PM

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Its fine to make mistakes

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But did you skip ahead in excitement or does the handbook need fixing?

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(And please do take that warning about DM support serious)

lucid yacht Mar 31, 2025, 3:54 PM

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brittle dune Please don't do it in DMs

oh i didnt thought about that

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well i just dm cause it felt like the person had given up

lucid yacht Mar 31, 2025, 3:55 PM

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brittle dune Any more details?

well the handbook very information dump like it got good information but sometimes if a person dont know what all the things does it can sometimes be hard to follow

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im thinking like some stuff you dont really need to do and the handbook maybe arent as straight forward explaining that etc

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like when i read other distro handbooks or bsd etc i think they are abit more maybe easy for newcomers

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but thats just my thought after looking at it again after many years

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@brittle dune but no its not broken in anyway i just saw where people could maybe make mistakes easily

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i just checked the rules and yeah no i didnt gave any remote support but i will only use the public channels i just felt sorry for the person trying so many hours

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i should have read the faq tho that was kinda bad of me

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 4:48 PM

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lucid yacht well the handbook very information dump like it got good information but sometim...

Any ideas how we can improve? Most people are asking for more detail to be added so its hard to strike a balance

lucid yacht Mar 31, 2025, 4:49 PM

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oh yeah i bet its hard i think the details is all there but the structure and readability may be more of a problem

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for example when funtoo existed i thought that install guide was a little bit easier written

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 4:57 PM

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We accept submissions if you want to take a stab at it

lucid yacht Mar 31, 2025, 7:20 PM

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hmmm i will think about it im not that great on actually doing stuff i can like visual stuff in my head also im not native english

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but one place for example where ellie made a mistake was the bootloaders where it list several ways but the text is quite compact so ellie did like two of those steps where you should only use one. Like me reading that part i understand but maybe it could be even clearer

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small things like that

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atleast for pretty new users i dont think more advanced linux users have too much trouble reading the handbook

brittle dune Mar 31, 2025, 10:51 PM

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Breaking things down into sections works well for me

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