Advice on installing a light KDE base | Gentoo Linux Community | Page 1

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:09 PM

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I want to install gnome 48, but it is not on overlays or upstream; I noticed this exist after some digging
https://download.gnome.org/sources/gnome-software/48/

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HDR is not avalible on cinnamon yet which is why I want to try the jump, I am not sure how I would uninstall gnome if I do not like it

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I want to ensure that both installation and uninstalling will not be difficult

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Being able to easily update is also a must because debian had a memory leak when I test

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:19 PM

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unkempt cliff I want to ensure that both installation and uninstalling will not be difficult

yk you can just

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install it in a vm

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Also if you want to bother with latest gnome check out the blfs book

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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warped surge Also if you want to bother with latest gnome check out the blfs book

Sounds complicated

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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unkempt cliff Sounds complicated

trust me

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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Blfs is "Beyond Linux From Scratch" right?

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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it is

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:21 PM

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unkempt cliff Blfs is "Beyond Linux From Scratch" right?

yup

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just install it from the gentoo repos

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may not be the latest but it’s good enough

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:22 PM

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warped surge just install it from the gentoo repos

It doesn't include HDR

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HDR is why I wanted to jump, cinnamon hasn't introduced it yet

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:22 PM

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well what does include hdr then

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other than gnome

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:23 PM

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KDE
Cosmic (it's not released)
Hyprland

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:24 PM

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just get plasma then

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You should know how to use it since you used cinnamon

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:24 PM

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I had issues on plasma and it's heavy

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:24 PM

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well then just wait till cinnamon implements it

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why do you need hdr even

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:25 PM

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My monitor is HDR and it looks much nicer when supported

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:25 PM

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unkempt cliff My monitor is HDR and it looks much nicer when supported

well my monitor is hdr and I could care less

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:26 PM

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I have launched a few things from an arch-chroot is it safe to launch gnome from that with gentoo as the host?

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:26 PM

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your only options are to wait for gnome 48 on gentoo or just wait till cinnamon implements it

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:26 PM

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warped surge your only options are to wait for gnome 48 on gentoo or just wait till cinnamon ...

Pretty much so far

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:26 PM

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unkempt cliff I have launched a few things from an arch-chroot is it safe to launch gnome from...

uhhh

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what are you trying to do

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And no it won’t work in chroot

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:27 PM

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Gnome 48 is installed on Debian
I was unsure if I could launch it like I can with prismlauncher

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You know, ima try it

warped surge Mar 27, 2025, 1:28 PM

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just boot into Debian then

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wont work on chroot

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:29 PM

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warped surge wont work on chroot

Yeah it softlocks

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 1:29 PM

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warped surge just boot into Debian then

I was trying to see if gentoo would suffer from the memory leaks like debian

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Gentoo runs better than Debian on cinnamon

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 3:04 PM

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Gnome pulls in more dependencies on Debian due to it being a binary distro, however Gnome by itself should run better than Cinnamon

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it does feel slightly more responsive sometimes too

plain hedge Mar 27, 2025, 4:17 PM

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Advice on installing Gnome 48
switch to arch

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 11:17 PM

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plain hedge >Advice on installing Gnome 48 switch to arch

Pacman sucks
I like portage on Gentoo and apt on Debian

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Hmmm.. I wonder if it is possible to install just kwin and make my own minimal setup with HDR?

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I need to check KDE's version on gentoo

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I do not want the whole KDE desktop as it takes more resources than cinnamon

plain hedge Mar 27, 2025, 11:18 PM

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maybe

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 11:18 PM

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it is not so much the size of the desktop, but rather the amount of resources it uses

plain hedge Mar 27, 2025, 11:19 PM

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unkempt cliff it is not so much the size of the desktop, but rather the amount of resources it...

plasma doesnt use that much resources lol

unkempt cliff Mar 27, 2025, 11:19 PM

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Ok looking this up, KDE has a LOT of use flags
It is heavy on Debian which might not be the same as on Gentoo

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kwallet not being needed is really good

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Ok this is interesting
KDE is ahead on Gentoo

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KDE 5 doesn't exist on Gentoo

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Gentoo and Arch use basically the same version of KDE

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Wayland is what I intend to use

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I have an RX 7800 XT now

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I can't remember how to add the overlay. I am going to set up the eselect profile for KDE and then mess with that

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Advice on installing a light KDE base

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 1:08 AM

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Prerequisites are still updating but I forgot about the split

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Just to reinstate I want to try wayland KDE more than x11

mystic hedge Mar 28, 2025, 2:48 AM

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@vagrant moth Chimera Linux is on Gnome 48 clueless

vagrant moth Mar 28, 2025, 3:15 AM

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lol

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already

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didn't it release a little bit ago?

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like 8 days ago

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crazy

mystic hedge Mar 28, 2025, 3:28 AM

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yeah q66 had it done 2 or 3 days after it was released

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https://pkgs.chimera-linux.org/package/current/main/x86_64/gnome 3-22-2025

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 3:13 PM

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I noticed that when in an arch-chroot, gentoo will stop compiling when debian sleeps

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my pc slept so I am still compiling

mystic hedge Mar 28, 2025, 3:20 PM

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Yeah tend to disable the lid switch if it’s a laptop and disable automatic suspend

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Logind for the lid switch disabling

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Just close the lid and the hardware will shut off the screen

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Laptop in server mode basically

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Gnome settings for the suspend settings

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 4:01 PM

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I have a desktop
It was easy to fix on Debian Gnome

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I doubled the timer from 5 to 10 minutes on screen turn off
15 to 30 for suspend

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 7:42 PM

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KDE seems to use a minimum of 1.56GB
Cinnamon used around 0.79GB

plain hedge Mar 28, 2025, 7:43 PM

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unkempt cliff KDE seems to use a minimum of 1.56GB Cinnamon used around 0.79GB

my sway session uses 312MiB

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thats with swaybar, my status command, foot(the terminal) open

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 10:33 PM

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Oh seems spectacle did not capture the panels

plain hedge Mar 28, 2025, 10:39 PM

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unkempt cliff

what terminal theme is that

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 10:40 PM

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Seems there was a bug, but breeze

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Adwaita is also loaded in for GTK

plain hedge Mar 28, 2025, 10:42 PM

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unkempt cliff Seems there was a bug, but breeze

no, terminal color scheme

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 10:44 PM

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plain hedge no, terminal color scheme

I made it myself

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That's a gnome terminal

plain hedge Mar 28, 2025, 10:45 PM

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ohhhhh

unkempt cliff Mar 28, 2025, 10:49 PM

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unkempt cliff Mar 29, 2025, 12:03 AM

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I didn't know you could just use a github link like that. I could have done this the whole time with gnome huh? Well it's nice to compare two desktops

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