gentoo installation ugrd

[queen bolt]

do i run this command too?

[quasi pollen]

you edit that file

or any file in /etc/portage/package.use

basically you set installkernel to have the ugrd use flag

in whatever manner you prefer

[queen bolt]

i’m not sure how to do that

i ran the emerge command for ugrd but idk how to do what it’s asking now

[quasi pollen]

echo "sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd" > /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd

[queen bolt]

will that add it for me?

[quasi pollen]

if you add that flag to installkernel it'll pull ugrd

[cobalt verge]

Or euse -E ugrd -p sys-kernel/installkernel

Enables ugrd flag for that package

[queen bolt]

so this one adds it and enables it for me

[quasi pollen]

yeah but the point i want to make is that you can set use flags in a variety of ways

do it however makes sense to you

and try to understand what it means to do that

[cobalt verge]

It adds it to that config file for you yeah

[queen bolt]

i’ve only used nano so far and usually the wiki was clear when i was meant to

[cobalt verge]

This file

[quasi pollen]

yeah so you can "echo" contents into a file, using > or >> with your shell, or just edit the file

ye that part is the path to the file

but use flags can be set by any file in that dir

[cobalt verge]

That line below has to be in it

[queen bolt]

so is the command you told me

will it put the ugrd use file into that directory?

[cobalt verge]

Basically:

Any text file in /etc/portage/package.use/ will be read by emerge command, and whatever is in them will be applied

[queen bolt]

or do i have to do cd

[quasi pollen]

^

so the file name is barely relevant, it's mostly there to let you know what the contents may be, and ordering, but odering shouldn't matter much

[cobalt verge]

And you want to apply

sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd

Have this line in a text file in /etc/portage/package.use/

[quasi pollen]

yeah that adds the ugrd flag to sys-kernel/installkernel

[cobalt verge]

pwd says what folder you're in if you don't know

[queen bolt]

so i do nano /etc/portage/package.use/?

[quasi pollen]

you can nano some file in that dir

filename is up to you

[cobalt verge]

package.use is a folder

[quasi pollen]

^

[cobalt verge]

Make any file in there

[quasi pollen]

well it can be a file

[cobalt verge]

And then you can nano it

[quasi pollen]

it's easiest to organize it as a dir tho, one file gets messy fast

[queen bolt]

no i’m js confused how it’ll add the ugrd use file if im not inside of directory

[queen bolt]

so cd /etc/portage/package.use/

[cobalt verge]

You don't have to be in a directory to edit a file in directory if you give nano an entire path to a file

[queen bolt]

mkdir USE files

[cobalt verge]

Yeah you can do that

[quasi pollen]

you can specify the full path like sudo nano /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd

[cobalt verge]

No

[queen bolt]

then i use the command you told me?

[queen bolt]

oh

[quasi pollen]

or just nano if you're root

[queen bolt]

i am root

[cobalt verge]

package.use is a folder

in that folder you put text files that tell portage what USE flags to apply for packages

[queen bolt]

so it already has the ugrd use file and i js have to enable it?

[cobalt verge]

No

[quasi pollen]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.use maybe take a minute and skim this

[cobalt verge]

You make a file, name it whatever you want

And put info in it

If you create a file, and inside that file you put
sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd

That enables ugrd USE flag for installkernel

[queen bolt]

oh

so i make a file inside of package.use

[quasi pollen]

ye

[cobalt verge]

Yep exactly

[quasi pollen]

you can technically name it just about anything, im not sure if some pattern makes it ignored, potentially prefixed with a .

[queen bolt]

okay so as a whole what’s the order of commands i should run to do that? or was this command enough

[quasi pollen]

if you want one file for anything kernel related you could just call it kernel

[cobalt verge]

That command basically automatically makes a file for you and puts the use flag in it, but it's good if you do it at least once on your own to know how it works

I can tell you, one sec

[quasi pollen]

yeah you should be able to search your package.use and get an idea of what is going on

in case there are ever duplicate configs or conflicts

[queen bolt]

how do i make a file inside of the package.use then (most likely a dumb question but i’ve slept like 5hrs nd can’t remember anything)

[quasi pollen]

nano it

if there is a dir there it'll make a new file under that dir

[cobalt verge]

If you do nano filename that will create file once you save

So you don't need a separate command

[quasi pollen]

when you save it, it creates it

[cobalt verge]

You can run nano on a file that doesn't exist and then when u save that makes this file

[queen bolt]

so nano /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd

[cobalt verge]

Yeah, that should work

I'm not 100% sure if package.use folder is created by default so if this gives you an error just make that folder I guess

[queen bolt]

then if possible tell me like in steps what to do as if you were doing it yourself

[quasi pollen]

mkdir -pv /etc/portage/package.use

then that nano command

but maybe try a bit, it's not too complicated

[queen bolt]

okay wait let me check if the file exists already or not

okay so ugrd doesn’t have anything inside of it let me check package.use

[cobalt verge]

Explanation:
-p will create all folders in case they don't exist, not just try to make the last one and error if the location doesn't exist
-v makes the command give more output

[queen bolt]

it says it’s a directory and then nothing shows up

[cobalt verge]

What command?

[queen bolt]

nano /etc/portage/package.use

[cobalt verge]

You're trying to edit a folder using text editor right now

[queen bolt]

oh

[cobalt verge]

nano /etc/portage/package.use/someFileNameWhateverYouWant

We suggested to call the file ugrd so that you know it's a file where you change USE flags to make ugrd work

[queen bolt]

okay so i should do nano /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd and then add sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd

[cobalt verge]

Yea put that text in that file

[queen bolt]

do i do the

UGRD =“sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd”

?

the sys-kernel part

[cobalt verge]

No, just the text in the quotes only

[queen bolt]

alright

[cobalt verge]

Basically the line starts with full package name and then you write what USE flags you want enabled for it

Or disabled

If you put - in front of flag name

[queen bolt]

i think i did it

how do i check if it works or not

[queen bolt]

btw doing this command says euse doesn’t exist

[cobalt verge]

If you do emerge -a installkernel then before pressing yes, you should see it says next to the package that it enables that USE flag

[cobalt verge]

Ah you might have to install gentoolkit for it. Well, just another reason why doing it with text files can be worth it

No extra programs

[queen bolt]

-a means it won’t actually install the kernel yet it’ll js read right

[cobalt verge]

-a means --ask

So it'll ask you yes/no

If something is wrong with what it says it'll do then just cancel

[queen bolt]

ugrd is there

thanks a lot

[cobalt verge]

No problem

[queen bolt]

@cobalt verge when i’m trying to set up the timezone, it says invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd: “sys-kernel/installkernel

[cobalt verge]

Check if you've made a typo

[queen bolt]

i wrote

“sys-kernel/installkernel ugrd”

what’s wrong w that

[cobalt verge]

See if every letter is 100% correct in the file

Because sys-kernel/installkernel is a package, so that should work

Also not sure why it says it's not working now

[queen bolt]

i copy and pasted it now so no way i did it wrong

[cobalt verge]

Hm

[cobalt verge]

Can you give me that full error?

[queen bolt]

same error appeared

gimme a sec

command used = emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data
error recieved = ---invalid atom in /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd: "sys-kernel/installkernel

and then

configuring pkg

assuming your /etc/localtime symlink is what you want; skipping update

[cobalt verge]

Hm

If you run
emerge --info sys-kernel/installkernel

Is there a - next to ugrd near the bottom or not?

In the USE="

[queen bolt]

it showed the same invalid atom then printed a large group of text

[cobalt verge]

Yeah what's near the bottom

Should be something like this

[queen bolt]

it’s a bunch of random stuff

X a52 aac acc acpi

im trying to find ugrd

[cobalt verge]

Hm

Maybe it really isn't finding installkernel

Wait no

Then it'd be a short message with "there are no ebuilds to satisfy"

[queen bolt]

wait gimme a sec i’ll use the command nd then use find function

ugrd isn’t even mentioned

at all

it’s only mentioned in the error

[cobalt verge]

Hm

You ran the full command right?

[queen bolt]

wdym

the info? yeah

[cobalt verge]

emerge --info sys-kernel/installkernel

Yea

[queen bolt]

yes

[cobalt verge]

Hm

It should either give you this

Or if there is a typo or package doesn't exist, should be this

[queen bolt]

js tell me how to install the euse so i can make it do it for me

[cobalt verge]

emerge gentoolkit

Oh wait also

Do:

[queen bolt]

bro the error appears in everything now

every command i do

the invalid atom one

[cobalt verge]

Yeah invalid atom means the package name is unknown in that ugrd file

[queen bolt]

okay so now i do the euse thing right

[cobalt verge]

Wait

For now

emerge wgetpaste

[queen bolt]

done

[cobalt verge]

Then

wgetpaste -c 'ls /etc/portage/package.use; cat /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd'

And send the link that it outputs here

[queen bolt]

it’s taking time to output anything

apparently nothing was received it said

it says to enable verbose or debug

[cobalt verge]

Huhhhh

You have internet

right

[queen bolt]

yeah

[cobalt verge]

Otherwise you couldn't install stuff

[queen bolt]

i’m using firefox in the background rn

[cobalt verge]

Alright you know what

For now do rm /etc/portage/package.use/ugrd

[queen bolt]

done

[cobalt verge]

Then do euse -E ugrd -p sys-kernel/installkernel

[queen bolt]

okay done

when i do info it still doesn’t appear

is that normal

[cobalt verge]

Now do ls /etc/portage/package.use

[cobalt verge]

I don't think it is, tho I'm not fully sure

[queen bolt]

installkernel (new file made) and liverpool

bro

libsepol

not liverpool

[cobalt verge]

Hm

What happens if you do emerge --search installkernel

I get this right now

[queen bolt]

[ Results for search key : installkernel ]
Searching...

• dev-python/installer
  Latest version available: 0.7.0
  Latest version installed: 0.7.0
  Size of files: 907 KiB
  Homepage: https://pypi.org/project/installer/ https://github.com/pypa/installer/ https://installer.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
  Description: A library for installing Python wheels
  License: MIT

• sys-kernel/installkernel
  Latest version available: 48-r1
  Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
  Size of files: 25 KiB
  Homepage: https://github.com/projg2/installkernel-gentoo https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Installkernel
  Description: Gentoo fork of installkernel script from debianutils
  License: GPL-2+

[ Applications found : 2 ]

[cobalt verge]

Well

emerge installkernel

Or

with -a

Tbh

We want to make sure it has that USE flag now

[queen bolt]

• IMPORTANT: 20 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
• Use eselect news read to view new items.

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
Dependency resolution took 1.17 s (backtrack: 0/20).

[ebuild N ] sys-kernel/installkernel-48-r1 USE="ugrd -dracut (-efistub) -grub -refind -systemd -systemd-boot -uki -ukify"

[cobalt verge]

Alright yea looks fine

[queen bolt]

ugrd is at the top with no -

[cobalt verge]

Yep

So it is enabled

[queen bolt]

so why is it not letting me use diff commands

[cobalt verge]

What commands?

[queen bolt]

i’m tryna set my timezone nd it won’t work for some reason

[cobalt verge]

I guess try again

Should work now

If you're talking about invalid atom thingie

[queen bolt]

i did but it’s showing the lower half now

` emerge --config sys-libs/timezone-data

Configuring pkg...

• Assuming your /etc/localtime symlink is what you want; skipping update.`

[cobalt verge]

I guess redo that section in the handbook, or maybe this works as intended

[queen bolt]

why is the timezone full days off from when it is today

it’s saying my country is mar 13

2024

[cobalt verge]

I guess you either did something wrong during that section or missed some command you were supposed to run

Lemme open the handbook one sec

[queen bolt]

gentoo has been hell to install

people lied to me when saying it’s easier than arch

ykw i’m leaving it as it is and when i get a gui im editing it

[cobalt verge]

It isn't easier than arch, but it is comparable, unless you run arch install script that automates a lot of stuff

[queen bolt]

arch was much much easier

it was my first distro and installing was so so easy

[cobalt verge]

Alright

I just checked

There are high chances you ran
ln -sf ../usr/share/zoneinfo/[...] /etc/localtime
command when in the wrong folder

[queen bolt]

im not in any folder

this is all on the root

cheoor

[cobalt verge]

Run pwd

That's the folder your terminal is in

[queen bolt]

chroot

[cobalt verge]

cd is what changes what folder you're in

[queen bolt]

i think i got it working already

[cobalt verge]

That section of the Gentoo handbook about timezones assumes you're in /etc folder

[queen bolt]

i typed this in with my region and no error displayed after

so i think its fine

[cobalt verge]

What does ls -l /etc/localtime say

[queen bolt]

gimme a sec im managing kernel now

[cobalt verge]

Ok

[cobalt verge]

Nvm it possibly doesn't but still worth checking if that part works right

[queen bolt]

my internet is horrific bro

[queen bolt]

matches the date and time

how do i know which kernel version i ahve

[cobalt verge]

If it was working correctly, it should say
/etc/localtime -> ../usr/share/zoneinfo/Continent/City

[queen bolt]

yeah basically that

[cobalt verge]

U got the arrow and it gives u correct names of files?

[queen bolt]

yup

[queen bolt]

?

[cobalt verge]

What kernel are you using?

[queen bolt]

i dont know

[cobalt verge]

gentoo-kernel or gentoo-kernel-bin or gentoo-sources

Or something else

[queen bolt]

oh

gentoo sources

[quasi pollen]

that is hard mode

[queen bolt]

should i js do a binary kernel install?

[quasi pollen]

you almost certainly want gentoo-kernel-bin to start

[queen bolt]

i kinda alr installed it

so like

[quasi pollen]

do you have a bootloader installed and configured?

[queen bolt]

i am not sure

i was js told to do the ugrd part first then the rest

[cobalt verge]

If you went thru with kernel installation with gentoo-sources already then it should be fine hopefully

If u want to check version

emerge --info gentoo-sources

[quasi pollen]

if ugrd can successfully run, that likely means your system is in a state which is nearly ready to boot

but it still depends on bootloader config

[queen bolt]

Linux-6.8.0 is my version i think

[quasi pollen]

either you need to manually do that with efibootmgr (kinda tricky), use something like uefi-mkconfig, or use a bootloader like systemd-boot or grub

[queen bolt]

im js gonna do a binary kernel instead this is hurting my brain

[quasi pollen]

bootloader config can be set at a USE flag on installkernel, more or less, but that won't actually install it for you

[cobalt verge]

That won't change anything if you already did the kernel installation

[queen bolt]

i dont think i did

i avoided anything rlated to installing kernel other than gentoo sources

[cobalt verge]

I'm using ugrd with rootfs encryption and I have zero idea what any of that means, unless this is talking about ugrd + gentoo-sources

[cobalt verge]

Did you do the mkconfig stuff?

[quasi pollen]

you can configure installkernel to run grub-mkconfig for you

with the grub use flag

that's what i mean

but that will also pull grub, so you can install it after you make the config if you want

[queen bolt]

no

emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "sys-kernel/installkernel-gentoo".

i got this while trying to run

[quasi pollen]

you don't have to install installkernel manually if you use dist-kernel

it depends on it

so you can just emerge gentoo-kernel-bin

[queen bolt]

so doing this doesnt help

emerge sys-kernel/installkernel-gentoo

[cobalt verge]

I said gentoo-sources not installkernel-gentoo

installkernel-gentoo doesn't exist, there is just installkernel

[queen bolt]

oh

[quasi pollen]

you just need to do this

but it pulls sys-kernel/installkernel

you don't have to

it already depends onit

[queen bolt]

!!! 'gentoo-kernel-bin~' is not a valid package atom. !!! Please check ebuild(5) for full details.

[cobalt verge]

You added a ~ by accident somehow I think?

[queen bolt]

you are right

no clue how that happened

[quasi pollen]

do you know what bootloader you want to use?

[queen bolt]

i have no clue im js doing what smn told me to do

im doing smt related to fstab or smt

bro

i lagged so badly

[quasi pollen]

are you following some guide or just doing it step by step as someone tells you to?

[cobalt verge]

You shouldn't ever do something that you don't understand if you're on Gentoo tbh

[queen bolt]

looking at handbook while watching a video he made of how he made his setup

[quasi pollen]

fstab is pretty powerful

[queen bolt]

hes using a github link to make it easier

[cobalt verge]

For fstab?

[queen bolt]

yeah

[cobalt verge]

What does the link do?

[queen bolt]

is this part important

[queen bolt]

idk but its glacion/genfstab

[quasi pollen]

do you have extra partitions?

[queen bolt]

i have 3 partitions

sda3

sda2

and sda1

[quasi pollen]

for what

[queen bolt]

sda1 for 100m

sda2 for 4gb of swap

sda3 as main part

[quasi pollen]

is sda1 your efi?

you may want a swap entry in the fstab

you don't technically need one for the root unless you want different mount options

openrc at least will automatically mount it rw

[cobalt verge]

I'd just edit fstab, it's good to know how to use it

[queen bolt]

how do i screenshot on linux mint

sda1 = /boot/efi

sda 2 = swap

[quasi pollen]

fstab syntax is real similar to just running the mount command

and the fstab has examples for swap

[queen bolt]

idk what fstab is im js doing it cus my friend ended up having a good gentoo system while doing this setup he js told me to get ugrd by myself

[cobalt verge]

The other day I found out one game I played lagged a lot because btrfs (filesystem I use) didn't have some feature called case folding so the game having all assets as tiny files caused huge lags

I made a 100GB empty file and used fstab to mount it as an ext4 partition and installed the game there

[cobalt verge]

fstab is a text file that tells system where to mount the partitions and how

Mine looks like this right now

It's not super complicated in the end

[queen bolt]

im almost finished anyway its fine

im downloading grub and efibootmgr

next time i download this im having another lifeform next to me to explain this process so i dont feel like i've messed up my full system

[queen bolt]

the download didnt work omds man

[cobalt verge]

Do you mean the emerge command?

[queen bolt]

no i mean like when i tried booting after rebooting

it didn’t work

is there a diff between using —getbinpkg in the world set command or no

[queen bolt]

@cobalt verge i’m at the kernels part again but this time ill do it properly

i haven’t done anything yet i js added the firmware and sof

what do i do now?

do i use grub, efi stub or what

[cobalt verge]

I personally use GRUB and most people do

[queen bolt]

alright how do i set it up?

[cobalt verge]

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Bootloader

[queen bolt]

i’m on that part

i don’t understand

so i do nano etc portage package and add it there basically?

like how we did before?

or use that command

[cobalt verge]

What part are you talking about

[queen bolt]

grub

right under boatloads

bootloader

[cobalt verge]

Did you emerge it?

[queen bolt]

i haven’t emerged anything other than gentoolkit

[cobalt verge]

Not even gentoo-kernel-bin?

[queen bolt]

nope

i’m tryna be safe now

[cobalt verge]

Huh alright

[queen bolt]

i haven’t done ugrd, dracut or anything yet

i’m asking you so ik what to do first

i js finished the linux firmware and sof part

[cobalt verge]

Then

Wait are you on the part I linked or on

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Kernel#sys-kernel.2Finstallkernel

[queen bolt]

sys-kernel/installkernel

that part

[cobalt verge]

Alright

[queen bolt]

what should i do first

cus i’m gonna eventually put gentoo on my main device

[cobalt verge]

So basically add a grub USE flag to installkernel same like you did with ugrd

Then skip systemd-boot

[queen bolt]

using the command you gave?

just replace ugrd with “grub”

?

[cobalt verge]

Try editing the text file this command made last time

[queen bolt]

so nano and then add grub

[cobalt verge]

cd /etc/portage/package.use

Yea

ls to see what files are in it

It's probably called installkernel

Then just write grub next to ugrd

[queen bolt]

00cpu-flags and libesepol

[queen bolt]

it’ll add both of them if i do?

[cobalt verge]

What's inside libesepol

Also

[queen bolt]

what the hell man

[cobalt verge]

Same here lol

Discord is dying

[queen bolt]

it’s annoying me

so do i use the command i showed?

[cobalt verge]

I meant do cat on that file

[queen bolt]

and static libs

[cobalt verge]

Wasn't there a file called installkernel in that folder earlier

[queen bolt]

didn’t get added yet i didn’t use the command

[cobalt verge]

Ah ok

You should be able to just run that command then yeah

With both grub and ugrd USE flags

[queen bolt]

now what

[cobalt verge]

You can verify if it worked by checking those files in package.use

[queen bolt]

IM STUCK

I CANT TYPE

[cobalt verge]

In terminal or Discord?

[cobalt verge]

oof

You can hold message that didn't go thru to retry

[queen bolt]

i did

[cobalt verge]

Did what?

Anyways, skip EFI stub since we'll use grub

[queen bolt]

none of the messages are going through

[cobalt verge]

Make sure u enabled ugrd and grub for installkernel then keep following the wiki using gentoo-kernel-bin

[queen bolt]

ive been retrying so many times

its not working

[queen bolt]

i used the command and now idk what im meant to do

sys-apps/systemd boot # For systemd systems
sys-apps/systemd-utils kernel-install boot # For OpenRC systems
sys-kernel/gentoo-kernel-bin generic-uki
sys-kernel/installkernel -dracut -ukify -ugrd uki

which do i use

[queen bolt]

rub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.

how do i fix this

@cobalt verge

[cobalt verge]

What is the title of this whole section

Read it for me

[queen bolt]

forget ab that part

im way passed it

[cobalt verge]

It was about Universal Kernel Image

[queen bolt]

im at the final part and for some reason grub install refuses to work

[cobalt verge]

Which is something you aren't using

[queen bolt]

yes ik

im passed that

[cobalt verge]

Alright

[queen bolt]

grub-install: error: /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory.

[cobalt verge]

You didn't tell me whether you did it or not

[queen bolt]

how do i fix this

[queen bolt]

did what or not

[cobalt verge]

That section I mentioned earlier

So I didn't know if you messed things up or not

[queen bolt]

no i did this

[cobalt verge]

Alright

[queen bolt]

i installed the one with -bin at the end eachtime

now how do i fix this

[cobalt verge]

Where are you at in the Handbook?

Which section?

[queen bolt]

selecting a bootloader: default grub

[cobalt verge]

This?

[queen bolt]

yes

[cobalt verge]

With this command for legacy/BIOS systems?

[queen bolt]

i dont get wym but i think im a bios system

[cobalt verge]

Like 99% of the computers made in the last decade or two are using UEFI

[queen bolt]

idk then but i gotta make an extra partition to boot

[cobalt verge]

Didn't you do that already

The 400MB one or so

[queen bolt]

no

[cobalt verge]

Whatever the amount was

[queen bolt]

i need 4 partitions and one thats set as bios boot

[cobalt verge]

100Mb

[queen bolt]

which i did already but this isnt the situation this time

[cobalt verge]

No

You don't need a BIOS partition for UEFI

[queen bolt]

my iso isnt uefi

its bios

[cobalt verge]

Shouldn't matter

PCs can run in BIOS mode as an emergency

[queen bolt]

it didnt allow me to boot

unless i made

an extra partion

bro i might js restart and give up

[cobalt verge]

Look up your motherboard model

[queen bolt]

im on a vm

[cobalt verge]

Whether it uses BIOS or UEFI

Ah

Then check VM settings

Idk what VM might have

But yeah

You want to know those things before you start installation

Anyways it's 7:40AM

And I haven't slept tonight

Gn

[queen bolt]

doesnt say but it forces me to make a forth partition

[cobalt verge]

Ask around in support chat

[cobalt verge]

Then maybe it doesn't force you

Are you sure you did everything right

But anyways

Gtg

Ask someone else

Good night

Sorry we haven't figured it out

[queen bolt]

not at all

i js ran every command i saw that i thought would work

[cobalt verge]

You're supposed to understand what you're doing, and if you don't understand then either learn whether you need it or not and the basics of what it does