Dell Precision M6800 - Quadro K3100M x HD4600

[mossy plinth]

you're probably going through a lot of effort then when just this one would work

[nova herald]

i mean 470 did work on openbox and did run minecraft

but with unimpressive fps compared to windows

[mossy plinth]

but rn you're dealing with some mismatches

[nova herald]

and kde was ofc borked

yeah

righty

uhh

i'm now back to the stuck black screen

no tty or anything

[mossy plinth]

did you try to launch an X session again

[nova herald]

no it launched straight into it

[mossy plinth]

from reboot? or what

[nova herald]

reboot

sddm being goofy

[mossy plinth]

ah.

you were chrooted from an iso and modprobed the driver into the kernel from the iso earlier

[nova herald]

was i?

[mossy plinth]

I think you should just temporarily disable your display manager

[mossy plinth]

yes the kernel doesn't change when you chroot

at least I assume you were chrooted if booting into the regular machine gives you a black screen

[nova herald]

back when i changed over the xorg config all i did is boot into an xubuntu livecd and move over my backup of the file back to main

right i booted an older kernel as to not get the display manager to start

what do i do to remove the display manager from starting again

rc-update remove display-manager?

[mossy plinth]

chroot in and remove it from your default runlevel

yes

[nova herald]

is it --remove

oh its del

lel

there we go

lemme reboot back to normal kernel

right what do you propose i do now

[nova herald]

@mossy plinth do you think i might be better off just reinstalling or?

[mossy plinth]

reinstalling does technically teach less but it‘s up to you rly this has obviously taken a while

[nova herald]

well what is there to troubleshoot still

idk what to do next tbh

i dont particularly want to reinstall

[nova herald]

new questions

is it possible to set up my own local binhost on my server where it just compiles and keeps up to date every gentoo package, compiled for native

just thinking of how to save time on a possible full reinstall

@paper field

or if anyone has any other ideas on troubleshooting this...

[paper field]

Quickpkg <@&1101551477635428453>

[steady flower]

REAL

[nova herald]

does that create all of the packages

[paper field]

That will make a binary of everything on the system

[nova herald]

i was thinking more from an ubuntu server machine

aka my server

pulling and compiling every package to use as a local binhost

[paper field]

Oh chroot on the ubuntu system would be how I did it

[nova herald]

ah right okay

i have no clue what else to try do as troubleshooting here

[zealous basin]

<@&1101551477635428453>

[drowsy ridge]

<@&1101551477635428453>

<@&1101555344624324671>

[nova herald]

whats the worst that could happen if i were to accidentally clone a gentoo drive compiled for skylake to run on haswell

[zealous basin]

uhh

not much

just re-emerge everything

with updated -march if you specified skylake

[nova herald]

welp i guess ill have to reinstall

might go for gnome this time, as envycontrol which seems promising here would appear to have a gnome app to readily switch between integrated, hybrid and dedicated

[steady flower]

from the <@&1101555344624324671> people here, only one there may take the powers to emerge the <@&1101551477635428453> using -flto -funroll-loops -Ofast -mcpu=7450 -mabi=alvitec -maltivec -pipe

[nova herald]

[steady flower]

the deception

[graceful sun]

not <@&1101555429177299014> should emerge with -flto optimizations

[steady flower]

as I said, only one

[graceful sun]

at least from the <@&1101555344624324671> people <@&1101555511566028861>

[nova herald]

totally not trying to diagnose issues here or anything

[steady flower]

my bad sorry :(

[rugged halo]

that one must be me!

[nova herald]

beautiful

you done any more stuff on that powerbook recently @rugged halo ?

[rugged halo]

I have not

it is sehr broken

I'm afraid to breathe on it

[steady flower]

holy

[rugged halo]

bonus ram usage flex picture

[nova herald]

Oh dear

Also, what the hell

• hopefully Gentoo reinstall done @mossy plinth @paper field gonna try envycontrol and see what happens

oh come on I forgot to install sudo

[rugged halo]

I am envious of that bootloader splash

[nova herald]

:headslam:

[rugged halo]

angry systemd-boot noises

[nova herald]

lel

It's just grub with le theme

ffs I think I might actually have to chroot back into the iso

aghh

[rugged halo]

this entire thread is well and truly an nvidia moment

[nova herald]

yup you bet it

• Laptop hybrid moment

do I have to do all of the mounting of sys and proc etc every time just to emerge sudo

and edit the sudoers file

[rugged halo]

I'm pretty sure Portage requires those to be mounted to work correctly

well, most things do

[nova herald]

Yeah think so

Sorted now

Now back to Nvidia skill issuing

[steady flower]

14mb wtf

you don't use this system often tho, because 14mb of ram means ALOT of base stuff removed

[rugged halo]

This is a normal PowerPC stage3. I took that screenshot on the first successful boot

I removed nothing

Xorg wasn’t running ofc, just the tty

But yeah, I don’t actually use that thing. I tried to get Minecraft running, but only got very broken software rendering because ATI

[rugged halo]

With Xorg and IceWM running, it’s 35 MiB. Mind you, it’s a very basic desktop without PulseAudio and stuff, so it does have things missing in that regard. But ALSA is enough for a nugget like that

[mossy plinth]

RAM usage isn‘t just software dependent

funnily enough

[rugged halo]

Precisely. It depends on the architecture

[mossy plinth]

yea

[rugged halo]

This is 32-Bit PowerPC

Very simple. Not much hardware to address in that thing either

[mossy plinth]

I might join the powerpc gang soon

I‘m getting an old Power Mac G3

for free

[rugged halo]

Hell yeah

[nova herald]

also, update - new install of Gentoo complete with gnome but still running into issues like before. Right now the Nvidia driver won't even initialise but I give up for tonight

[rugged halo]

A lot less to go wrong with that. This laptop is fucked

[nova herald]

I want to get a PowerBook or something

[nova herald]

The actual laptop itself or just Gentoo?

If the laptop what happened

[rugged halo]

The powerbook. The case is in poor condition and the ram slots are bad, and only work when it’s warm

And the fan bearing makes an ungodly noise

[nova herald]

that sounds a bit like capacitor failure over the 3v or 5v rails

I'd check that with a multimeter

Or 1.1 rails

If it's seen a lot of use that's very plausible and a recap of the voltage rail could fix that

Since capacitors increase in their capacitance when warm especially when worn, however you'd expect to see that cause other issues too

[nova herald]

Just oiling it could help but failing that I'm sure new ones aren't too expensive

[rugged halo]

Implying that I own a multimeter here

[nova herald]

Oh, I thought you wouldve lol

[rugged halo]

I’m afraid to open it, honestly, because of how bad the case is

[rugged halo]

I have a shitty one in Germany

[nova herald]

Is it really that bad? Didn't look it in the pictures I've seen

[rugged halo]

Yeah, it’s like bent up in the bottom left corner

[nova herald]

You know

Taking it apart could be beneficial then

You could get a hammer and some electrical tape and bend it back

[rugged halo]

I might bust it out again some time to have another go with it

[rugged halo]

Oh dear

Might work tho

[nova herald]

And maybe pliers

Yeah

The ball side of a ballpein hammer would be ideal if you have one and if it's on an angle

But yeah, as those are all metal pretty much

[nova herald]

@paper field

Other than that stuff there, I've done nvidia-xconfig and installed envycontrol

And set it for hybrid graphics and stuff on gdm

[rugged halo]

This could be the issue if I’m lucky. However, the BGAs on these ram slots are also known to crack because they are mounted upside-down

[nova herald]

But yeah as of rn the Nvidia driver isn't even initialising

[nova herald]

Ouch... Apple skill issue

[nova herald]

Ver 470 + I give up for tonight

Pretty sure I also installed Nvidia firmware

[steady flower]

skull

[steady flower]

ofc

[nova herald]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-torvalds-linus-nvidia-fuck-you-gif-19475186

this makes me want to slam my head through a wall

[paper field]

only one person would be that silly 😛

I haven't known anyone to use nvidia-xconfig for 17 years....

[nova herald]

2 weeks and a Gentoo reinstall later

[nova herald]

Me

Now time to try envycontrol gnome menu thing for switching modes and also some games/graphical stuff

Good start

Also soz don't have discord installed yet

[nova herald]

or not python is having some massive conflict stroke thing

[nova herald]

just pages of stuff like this

@paper field

hmm fairly unimpressive (like 1/4 of what windows does), but lemme dock the laptop since right now it should be heavily limited

much better just a battery thing

also idk how to make stuff full screen, gnome confuses me

and if you cant tell i dont use it often

[nova herald]

@mossy plinth any ideas on whats causing this issue

[mossy plinth]

python target was upgraded

so you have to recompile a lot of packages

happened weeks ago

[nova herald]

hhhhhhh

what do i need to do

[mossy plinth]

just update

world

[nova herald]

oh ok neat

i'll do that now

but yeah the quadro is now working

i just need to get the envycontrol gnome panel working

also how tf do i make windows fullscreen on gnome theres only an X

(i dont generally use gnome)

yay 260 packages

[steady flower]

i think windows-like control works?

windows key + up to maximize

[nova herald]

oh yeah i see

it does

thanks

[nova herald]

i hate these webkit packages they take forever

and gcc/llvm

[lapis bronze]

hello

[nova herald]

ello bossman

[nova herald]

far too long later

[steady flower]

since when this is a thin

g

[nova herald]

It's the envycontrol GPU add-on for gnome