Why kits should not be limited at the beginning of seasons.

[paper bone]

We earned kits and or bought them and it is super annoying when we cant claim them at the beginning of seasons, it almost completely removes the point of even having kits. (It does not have to be fair in the beginning for all new players, there should be a benefit at the beginning for people who earned/bought kits).

[dawn rose]

I AGREE

+1

[frank stirrup]

agree

+1

rose but for real do this

like we not gonna play for the first week if u dont

[rich plover]

I love my kits. But I don't personally agree. I think there should be a small window for players to try to catch up before returning players come in and just have so much stuff

Maybe some kits unlocked, like looter, but not kits?

[dawn rose]

bro for pvp it makes no sense

[frank stirrup]

stfu

[rich plover]

Ikits*

[dawn rose]

everyone is just running around in iron

for a week

its not playable

[paper bone]

i agree with looter not being unlocked but everything else?

[frank stirrup]

nobody cares we want our kits

[dawn rose]

we payed for them

[frank stirrup]

the new players gonna quit with in a week anyways

[dawn rose]

i spent $2000 on p2w

[frank stirrup]

we are here we payiede

[frank stirrup]

i spent 2000 u idiot u diondt spend shit eesasa u just scamemde me

[dawn rose]

lolol

[paper bone]

they can catch up during the season and then get that advantage next season

[rich plover]

Not everyone can afford to p2w. If new players join the server and everyone has p2w gear they won't want to stay

[paper bone]

i personally earned all my kits

didnt play

pay

you dont need to pay to get kits lol

[rich plover]

Yes, and new players can earn them as well. But day one not being able to go into wz because everyone has ikits?

[frank stirrup]

we dont care abute the new players

[paper bone]

thats kinda the point?

you have to earn it

[rich plover]

It gives everyone even standing in the beginning

[dawn rose]

we are talking about pvpers not new players

[rich plover]

You may not care about new players, but the server should

[frank stirrup]

dude

[rose forum]

To make it more fair for everyone, kits should not be open for the first week in my opinion, and it will kill the server quick lol

[rich plover]

I agree

[paper bone]

im not saying i dont, but there almost isnt a point of having kits being paid for if you dont get to use them in the beginning

[frank stirrup]

the server ben goign down so much its only us old players left that hope they will lissing to us and add season 3/4/5 back

why is all the pves talking

[rich plover]

I have a lot of kits myself and I want them ASAP but it's still not fair for new players

[rose forum]

Weirdo lmao

[dawn rose]

true but i mean we are talking about pvpers

[rich plover]

Warzone is not only pvp

[frank stirrup]

yes it is are u dumb?

[rose forum]

But you cant just do something for pvpers and not for the rest lol

[paper bone]

why do u think that dumb kit pacifist was made lol

[dawn rose]

no but unlocking the pvp kits are only really effecting pvp players

[rich plover]

Warzone has other aspects to it besides fighting. I wouldn't care if it was a battle arena, but the warzone is the only place you can get certain things

[frank stirrup]

jear u can get items

from killing players

its calelde a fucking wz for a reseon

warzone

WAR

u know what war means?

[rose forum]

I know what you mean, but it will still make it so you have a huge advantage over others that also just want to go to warzone to get stuff

[rich plover]

New plays go into warzone and get wrecked by people with all these kits d1 because they haven't played on the server or don't p2w..

[dawn rose]

holy cringe

[frank stirrup]

war is whe nu fighting

[frank stirrup]

ok but we wanan kill the players

[paper bone]

THE POINT OF KITS IS TO HAVE AN ADVANTAGE ON ANY SERVER

[rose forum]

Niclas be quiet you aint good for the conversation lmao

[dawn rose]

true andrew

[frank stirrup]

why are u talking tho?

[rich plover]

Isn't this a discussion board?

[rose forum]

Not in the start though lmao, everyone should have a chance in the start

[rich plover]

So everyone can give their opinions

[paper bone]

they do

its just going to be slower

[rose forum]

And unfair

[dawn rose]

how is it unfair

[rich plover]

You really can't wait 1 week for new players to get the hang of things?

[paper bone]

why does everything need to be fair with you people

life isnt fair

skybounds kits are not fair

[rose forum]

Because to get more people it has to be more fair lmao

[rich plover]

Because if they scare away all the new players the server will die

[paper bone]

i mean kits have been being locked for the past couple seasons and i dont seem to remember a giant new influx of player

s

[warm pumice]

If yall dont behave in here we'll make it longer

[paper bone]

were talking bro

like

[dawn rose]

we are having a discussion

[paper bone]

this is why no one likes you

[dawn rose]

is that not allowed

[frank stirrup]

like andrew said

[rich plover]

Pretty aggressive tbh lol

[rose forum]

We are having a good convo, its just niclas that cant behave lmao

[paper bone]

.

[dawn rose]

he cant type either

[frank stirrup]

are u dumb?

[rose forum]

Like i said

[paper bone]

if anything it seems to make many old og players quit

[frank stirrup]

u do know we all in the same call but not u right why tf u talking?

[rich plover]

I'm OG and I think kits should be locked

[rose forum]

Its just because you all want an huge advantage over people though

[frank stirrup]

dude never seening u befor

[rose forum]

Did i ask?

[rich plover]

Other people have so

[paper bone]

no its not its because i want what i earned lol

[frank stirrup]

dude 0 likes u just thinking u some kind of the main dude

[paper bone]

i dont think it should be locked for the first week

[ripe needle]

maybe thru global challenges like that one season

[rich plover]

And you will get that advantage if youre patient

[paper bone]

i

dont

want

to

[rose forum]

And you will get it after 1 week lmao

[paper bone]

be

patient

i earned the kits i want them when the server opens

[ripe needle]

makes yall work for it, and still get what u want

[rich plover]

I agree Kayla

[paper bone]

notice how big servers dont do this

[frank stirrup]

so tell me dude

[paper bone]

minecadia for example

gets over a 1000 players every map

[ripe needle]

well this aint minecadia sir

[paper bone]

and dont lock kits

[rose forum]

Its grinding not get everything handed lmao

[rich plover]

I personally don't play on other servers because a lot of them are so p2w that it isn't fun

[dawn rose]

bro we are not grinders

we are pvpers

[frank stirrup]

all stfu and lissing if they dont do so u can cliam kits for the first 7 days server become 100000x more p2w if palyers buy shards and open them they get the kits all outers dont hthe p2w dudes gonna own the server like

[dawn rose]

who want

kit pvp

[frank stirrup]

dude u tryna make this server p2w

[rose forum]

Pvp and grinding should go together lmao

[rich plover]

Lmfao how

[dawn rose]

it makes no sense to delay the pvp gameplay and not let pvp players actually have decent fights

[frank stirrup]

dude i legit just said

[rose forum]

How??? Do you understand what is being said in this convo lmao

[ripe needle]

skybounds is mainly a grinding server anyways, i think its fair to make it a challenge at the very least

[dawn rose]

like i get not letting people use looter

[frank stirrup]

...

[rose forum]

It have always been 1 week cooldown

[dawn rose]

but not pvp kits so we dont have spells or ikit sets to fight with

[paper bone]

it wasnt until s5

??

[rose forum]

It was though

[frank stirrup]

nope they first adede that in season like 8

[rich plover]

Exactly

Yeah

[rose forum]

Season 8???

[frank stirrup]

u startede like 2 season ago dude u dont know any of the outer season

[rose forum]

I am more OG than you but sure

[rich plover]

I don't see an issue making people wait for it/do challenges for it

[paper bone]

thats ur opinion i guess

[ripe needle]

then maybe do some pvp challenges to unlock them. WZ kills/ mob kills/ etc to unlock yalls kits

[paper bone]

we can just let people vote just wanted to share

[ripe needle]

quests idk

[frank stirrup]

this server gonna be so ass if they keep lissing to the new players insted of the ogs

[rich plover]

And I'm stating it in the discussion board yea

[paper bone]

shuty p

[rich plover]

I'm literally OG lmao

So is combo

[rose forum]

You less OG than most people that you call new players lmao

[rich plover]

We just aren't pvpers

[frank stirrup]

u guys have never ben pvpers

[frank stirrup]

dude ben here sines season 2

[rose forum]

Skybounds is a skyblock lmaooo

[paper bone]

no its really not

it kind of is

[rich plover]

SKYbounds

[paper bone]

but not really

[frank stirrup]

ok if u dont pvp why tf u then tryna chance somethink 99p of players find funny

skybounds is only alife cuz of the pvpers

[paper bone]

just because you say its in the name doesnt mean its true!

[frank stirrup]

the pvpers buy the gkits

[rose forum]

It is though andrew

[rich plover]

Because we can only get certain things at the warzone but can't get them because kits are unlocked immediately

[fading shard]

eesaa's alt????

[paper bone]

notice how 80 percent of kits are based off pvp !!!

[rose forum]

Idek

[dawn rose]

its not my alt wtf

[paper bone]

how the economy is based off pvp items !!!

[dawn rose]

why would i have an alt ?? im not banned

[rose forum]

Notice how you dont notice how much grinding stuff there is compared to pvp

[paper bone]

okay?

[frank stirrup]

dude

combo i hope u can see waht u saying

[rich plover]

Grinding is a pain in the ass when we can't get certain things in wz because pvpers wreck us immediately with their kits

[frank stirrup]

dude

[rose forum]

I do lmao

[frank stirrup]

the pvpers the reseon the server is here

skybounds run of the pvp

[rich plover]

Just do duels or something lol

[rose forum]

No the p2w people is the reason

[frank stirrup]

without hte pvp 0 would play skybounds

[paper bone]

idk how ur gonna be in this convo and then say that

lol

duels are dogshit and dont work

[frank stirrup]

wich is the pvpers 🙂

[rose forum]

Not really lmao

[rich plover]

Then suggest they make duels better

[frank stirrup]

no

[paper bone]

we dont want them to be

[rich plover]

If all you want to do is fight, then make duels better

[frank stirrup]

we dont give a fuck abute duels

[honest badge]

duels pvp is not warzone pvp

[frank stirrup]

^^^^

[honest badge]

its different

[rich plover]

We want to progress in the server. We want to earn things. Not get wrecked immediately because old players have pvp kits day one

[frank stirrup]

dude

my brain

[rose forum]

Come up with alternatives instead of just being so agressive lmao

[rich plover]

Why not suggest like.. battle arenas or something

[frank stirrup]

wz is the wz

dude

wz never ben a grinding place

[rose forum]

Wait is it really?

[frank stirrup]

u calling u self og

[rose forum]

It have been though lmao

[rich plover]

If I never had to go into the warzone to progress, I wouldn't care. But every season I need to.

[frank stirrup]

they addede so u can farm in the wz like for rela farming in like season 7

combo no it have not

[rose forum]

Warzone chests??

[frank stirrup]

jear what u get in them cheats combo

u get loot

[rose forum]

There have been ores since og

[frank stirrup]

like i na normal wz

[jagged nest]

hopefully they make immunity orbs less rare so pve can go wz too early days

[frank stirrup]

my brian cant handle u not gonna waist more time hejre

[jagged nest]

maybe add orbs with kits

[rich plover]

If I could open chests with immunity orbs, I would be glad

[rose forum]

Niclas ores been in warzone since og tf

[rich plover]

Otherwise they're the same as paci set

[dawn rose]

what is your opinion on kits not being added first week

it kinda ruins pvp

[frank stirrup]

^^^^

[rich plover]

Immunity orbs are meant for PVE players

[frank stirrup]

no

[rose forum]

It just makes it less fun for people that havent had the chance to get kits

[frank stirrup]

so cuz new players start

the 1s that playiede so long to get theres

[jagged nest]

i mean id say release it first day but make it so that pve can go wz too without the fear of dying instantly to players with better set/skill

[frank stirrup]

have to get punineds is what u saying

[rich plover]

But how could they do that Jack

[frank stirrup]

thats why drifter is here

for them pveers

[rich plover]

Like they would have pvp kits immediately

[rose forum]

Servers are based on players niclas lmao idk if you know how a server works

[frank stirrup]

u all crying abute the unfair shit u got made a set for u guys so u can go wz with out loseing u shit and grind

[rich plover]

You can't open chests with paci

[jagged nest]

like i said releasing kits early is just my opinion but i dont think its fair for the majority

pvpers are the minority

i cant say much

[dawn rose]

in warzone ?

thats made for pvpers really

[frank stirrup]

combo iam giveing up on u not gonna look in here u brian have not workede siens season like 3

[jagged nest]

wz is rly important early season tho

[rose forum]

True

[paper bone]

the way servers work is you start at the bottom and work your way up, it was fun when i had nothing but i got there eventually

[dawn rose]

^

[rich plover]

Warzone is super important for pve too

[rose forum]

Bro your brain doesnt work with that english

[rose forum]

Its important for pve and pvp though

[dawn rose]

there are no servers like skyblock and factions type gamemodes where you log on and have the same shit as everyone else, people have ranks kits and other perks that they have gained over playtime thats the whole point

[paper bone]

thats discriminatory

no need to call that out

[rose forum]

He trying to for me lmao

[dawn rose]

okay thats a bit too far

[rose forum]

Yeah i know that, but its also just rough for people to start and just get killed and cant do nothing

[dawn rose]

they can do something, play and get the same stuff

its how everyone started

[rose forum]

Really? lmao okay sure lol

[dawn rose]

i had nothing 2 seasons ago and that season got 2 looters from playing

its not that hard

[rich plover]

They can't in wz when they have no way to get pvp gear quickly therefore can't do shit in wz early game

[rose forum]

They get instant killed in warzone. And they want to go there to get good stuff. They can be naked and instant killed by a stacked dude lol

[dawn rose]

join a pvp team?

[rich plover]

I don't pvp lol

I'm TERRIBLE

[dawn rose]

no but in this scenario

if someone had nothing

but were good at pvp

[rose forum]

Randoms joining a pvp team? Most teams only recruit decent good people

[rich plover]

Why would someone accept me on their team if I'm bad at pvp?

[dawn rose]

no but if u are good at pvp

[rich plover]

I'm notoriously bad at pvp. I could have dia and die to naked with only fists

[frank stirrup]

eessa who is this guy

[dawn rose]

i mean thats what i did

[dawn rose]

why are you asking me like id know

[rose forum]

I mean true, but if you arent lmao

[dawn rose]

if u arent then even if u do have kits then u will get no where

what is your point

[eager star]

bc they will think they are to over powered and will hate it

[frank stirrup]

dude skyobunds not abute being good in pvp iam not good in pvp skyboudns abute haveing a brian and knowing when to rage and lep and use u spells

skybounds have such a litte in pvp

u can ask anyboy

i lose to all in hits

but still win the fight

[rich plover]

Aka being good at pvp

[frank stirrup]

it got nothink to do with pvp its all abute haveing a brain

[frank stirrup]

no

iam not good in pvp

but i still own the wz

[rose forum]

My point is in warzone there are teams of 10 chaising all the time lol

[rich plover]

Yes. I don't study what all pvp things do because I do not fight.

That's also true combo

[frank stirrup]

no

[dawn rose]

thats what duelist set is for

[rich plover]

The only time I survive in warzone is if pvpers have mercy and know I can't fight and aren't worth it

[frank stirrup]

we have 5 diff pvp teams

so we do team fights

[dawn rose]

oh wait kits arent released

[rose forum]

Giant teams just thirsting in warzone

[frank stirrup]

there is not giant teams

[rich plover]

There are

[dawn rose]

no

there arent

[eager star]

yes there are

[dawn rose]

not for next season

[rich plover]

Yes lol

[rose forum]

Lets say its a new player, then they dont have duelist

[dawn rose]

@eager star I AM TELLING YOU THERE ARE NOT

THERE ARE NOT

[frank stirrup]

can u tell me what the duelist set do again 🙂

[dawn rose]

why are you contradicting me

[rich plover]

There are and have always been large teams.

[dawn rose]

im getting triggered fr

[eager star]

you can tell me that but i think its truly bs

[dawn rose]

yes but the germans and us both split

[rich plover]

That doesn't mean there aren't large teams lol

[rose forum]

Niclas i know what duelist does, but if you are a new player they wont have the money or kit

[dawn rose]

then play the game

like whast

[rose forum]

And even with duelist you will still have 5 people chasing you with spells and just waiting lol

[frank stirrup]

idk why the pves are tryna tell the pvpers how wz have ben like pls stfu u guys have never touch wz in u life stop tryna fuck off our fun

[rich plover]

Give new players a chance in wz to get items and then after a week you wreck their asses. Why is one week such a problem?

[dawn rose]

kill one then get out

[dawn rose]

bro even if kits arent released they have no chance

thats why its so stupid

[rich plover]

Yes they do

[rose forum]

I know how to get out lol, but most players wont know

[frank stirrup]

buddy 1 ting that is for sure the sec u and combo touch wz u will get jumpede by 60 players 🙂

[ripe needle]

because skybounds has not been mainly about pvp. the majority of people are grinders lol

[dawn rose]

no lol

[ripe needle]

pvp is fun at times tho

[rich plover]

That's fine, and I've always been jumped in wz

[rapid talon]

i agree w niclas, why tf are all the pve ppl complaining about not being able to pvp ?

[frank stirrup]

kayla can u tell me why 80p of gkits is for pvp and can u tell me why the pve so they can sell it to the pvps

[rapid talon]

you dont want to anyways ?

[dawn rose]

fr

[rose forum]

You really think i care? lmao

[rich plover]

The reason PvE hates it is because we CAN NOT progress without going into warzone

[eager star]

i just think kits shouldnt be in for atleast a week

[rapid talon]

so... ask them to not base progression on PvP instead of yelling at us that kits should be locked ?

[dawn rose]

i mean u have 58 messages in this thread

[rose forum]

Its a server where everyone can say stuff

[rich plover]

It's a discussion board

[dawn rose]

why are pve players discussing pvp kits

[rose forum]

Yes but read what niclas said lmao

[rich plover]

I doubt they will rewrite all the code so we can progress outside of wz

[dawn rose]

oh ok nvm

[eager star]

and for anyone new they have time to learn the sever before kits get relased so they know the basics

[ripe needle]

cause we can?

[rose forum]

This is a server so we all have something to say lol

[dawn rose]

ik but it doesnt affect u as much as us

[rose forum]

Just cause you pvp doesnt give you a right to more stuff than others jeez

[rich plover]

It effects us greatly

[frank stirrup]

kayla u out of teh team

[dawn rose]

its like me saying disable spawners or grinding skill for 1 week

[rich plover]

We can't get trees or ores or such without wz

[eager star]

still effects us

[ripe needle]

never was lol

[rapid talon]

no genuinely, why dont the PvE ppl advocate for progression to not require pvp instead of complaining that they cant do anything in the pvp area ?

[rose forum]

Then do that, you have the right to that

[dawn rose]

well this is going nowhere

[eager star]

well spawners and grinding isnt p2w thats actual grinding you have to work for it

[rich plover]

Because this is a thread about kits and we are giving our opinion on this issue. If someone opens a discussion about progression not needing warzone we could also discuss there

[rose forum]

Pve and pvp is equally important lol

[frank stirrup]

its legit just the players that cant play minecraft as it was cratede to kill outer players that wanan grind and shit that now tryna fuck up or place the wz thnking they can make wz a pve place wz never ben a pve place the day it becoms a pve place is the place the server will close forever

[rose forum]

Tf??? minecraft wasnt created to kill players but sure

[frank stirrup]

dude pvp is fun pve is not fun

[dawn rose]

all im saying is if you take all the people who regularly went warzone and used the kits had a poll to decided this i think they'd agree

[rich plover]

I think pvp is boring af

[frank stirrup]

why can u hit players then?

[rose forum]

That is your opinion

[rich plover]

Different opinions

[rose forum]

To make it fun and different lol

[rapid talon]

no offense to the pve ppl here but yall are literally just entirely missing my point. just overall

[frank stirrup]

u guys are like thos kids that think there are furyis and tryna make it sounds like they right

[rapid talon]

you are literally just ignoring what im saying

[rich plover]

You are completely missing ours as well

[rapid talon]

bc you want to argue

[dawn rose]

@rose forum @rich plover so what is your reason as to why kits should be disabled for 1 week

because it is unfair

[ripe needle]

yall stop arguing on this before it gets closed instead

[rich plover]

New players wouldn't have a chance at wz which is needed for many things especially early game

[dawn rose]

new players dont have a chance anyway lol

[rich plover]

Why?

[dawn rose]

whats the difference

[frank stirrup]

u say u suck in pvp

so u gonna lose anyways

[rich plover]

I do yes, other people may not

[frank stirrup]

like stop comapling

[frank stirrup]

nobody gonna beat us any ways

[rapid talon]

"p2w kits should be locked for a week bc it breaks pvp" so why not let the pvp mains decide they want that, and remove the need for warzone from pve?

[frank stirrup]

we are a discord with 90 players in it

[rose forum]

Its unfair, brings less players in, give an overall bigger advantage and makes it less fun to grind in the start

[frank stirrup]

we just gonna make it even more unfair if u keep talking

[warm pumice]

Now who would do that

[frank stirrup]

we just talking

[ripe needle]

[eager star]

lock warzone for a week

[dawn rose]

ok i stop now :c

[rich plover]

If people had a way to earn shards or other items through PvE, I would absolutely agree

[eager star]

instead of kits

[rapid talon]

its.. a discussion board? why arent we allowed to argue? nobody is throwing slurs or anything we're just arguing

[warm pumice]

Good

[frank stirrup]

ok iam don idc if they add so they first can claim kits for aweek pvpers jut not gonna play for a week that how ez it is

if they want 100+ players day 1 they unluck kits if not they dont

[ripe needle]

key word: disscussion

[rapid talon]

So advocate for that rather than locked kits ? i'll make a suggestion for that rn and we all have a better day

[eager star]

if they want 100+ alts on day one you mean

[frank stirrup]

?

[rose forum]

Disagree, people go for each other for their opinions and that is not a discussion

[rich plover]

Do it and I will respond there

[eager star]

beacuse people will just get the kits on there alts

[frank stirrup]

jear and then log off them again?

u think we staying on the alt

when we claim kits

[rapid talon]

go check my suggestion

[rose forum]

Grinding is legit the point of skyblock servers

[dawn rose]

so grinding for kits is not good but grinding without kits is fine i dont get this sorry

[rose forum]

Yes because grinding up to get better stuff is more fun than having good stuff already

Tools is what i mean

[dawn rose]

having good stuff that we grinded for, you say having good stuff like we got it for free

[rapid talon]

so keep builder locked?

[rose forum]

A lot of people p2w to get that stuff, how is that grinding?

[rose forum]

If pvp kits get locked then yes builder aswell

[dawn rose]

a lot of people p2w to get better stuff how is that grinding?

[rose forum]

Its not grinding

[rapid talon]

ok, so the hours i spent grinding to buy the kits off the auction house/fighting in the warzone to get them isnt grinding?

[rose forum]

That is grinding, but what is the point of just spawn back with that and just playing normal again? and its 1 week we talk about

[rapid talon]

i am completely f2p with void and almost every kit

[rose forum]

I said most people p2w, didnt say everyone

[rapid talon]

i dont get the argument for this bc... we get the same shit after a week anyways?

and some people just open shards and get the kits anyways ?

why does it matter to wait an extra week

its literally just annoying

that "new player" probably wouldnt join in the first week most times anyways

[rose forum]

So people can get a chance to get a bit better and have better stuff before kits comes

[warm pumice]

What if kits were locked behind global challenge like prior seasons?

[rapid talon]

better ig

i just think locking kits is boring and super annoying

[ripe needle]

thats what i said smelli

[rose forum]

I understand, but what about the noobs that want to go to warzone to get stuff, they will just get rekt so quickly

[ripe needle]

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[rapid talon]

like oh yeah i spent a ton of time getting shit for new season, only to not be able to use them for first week of new season

why did i spend the time ?

[warm pumice]

interesting 🤔

[rapid talon]

they'd get destroyed anyways by the pvpers in the diamond gear already anyways lol

[dawn rose]

thing is what challenges would work for this

cause like if its pvp relates

related

[rapid talon]

like bro the good pvpers are still going to slaughter the noobs

[dawn rose]

play kills u can just alt and individual player kills u will just have a big team killing eachother

[rose forum]

I know that, but atleast they have a bit of a chance

[ripe needle]

then give ideas on what chs

[rapid talon]

no, they dont ! lol

[ripe needle]

since yall the pvp experts

[dawn rose]

koths will just make the biggest team win then they will just deny everyone else koths

[ripe needle]

[dawn rose]

im trying to think :cccc

[rose forum]

Sometimes they actually do

[dawn rose]

they could just do it on playtime maybe

[warm pumice]

I mean prior season global challenges was like farm wheat and carrots shit like that

[dawn rose]

like time survived in warzone

might work

[rose forum]

What about steps walked in warzone?

[rapid talon]

no, they dont, because you can enchant diamond gear just the same as the kits. it doesnt matter regardless. The better pvpers are going to kill the worse players

[rose forum]

not like a huge amount but just so it shows you spend a lot of time in warzone

[dawn rose]

i think time is a better metric for this

[rose forum]

True that

[dawn rose]

just do time in warzone

[rose forum]

But you can just afk though

[ripe needle]

thats cool tbh

[rose forum]

People will be doing that

[dawn rose]

true but there could be like an afk timer

[ripe needle]

but some of yall will be there for ages xD

oh im late lol

[dawn rose]

they prob have pseudocode or code from that

to do that

[rose forum]

I see what you mean, but yeah idk

[rose forum]

Oh yea isnt there normally an afk timer in warzone if you stand still?

[dawn rose]

dont think so

but for island afking there is

[ripe needle]

no there wasnt

[dawn rose]

they could just remix that code

[rose forum]

Add that then xD

Cause that is a cool idea with timer

[dawn rose]

okay well if hypothetically that were the challenge then we need to decide the magnitude as we are in a civilised discussion

how long in warzone

maybe it could be a group of challenges too

[rose forum]

How long would be too long and too short would you say?

[dawn rose]

playtime in warzone + kills + basic chests opened

well before you were saying you wanted a week without kits

so maybe like 3 hours or something

[rose forum]

Yeah that would be a good idea

[dawn rose]

idk

[rose forum]

So it shows you are dedicated to get it unlocked

[dawn rose]

also i think we could remix it so kits are unlocked on like the 3rd day so its best of both worlds

[rose forum]

Yeah agreed on that

[dawn rose]

so like 1 hour playtime in warzone each day + 5 kills each day + 10 chests looted a

[rose forum]

Yeah that isnt too hard or too easy

[dawn rose]

cause thats the best of both worlds

otherwise we wont reach an agreement

[rose forum]

Exactlyu

[dawn rose]

@rich plover @ripe needle what do you think

[rich plover]

For once, I agree eesaa

[rose forum]

I really like that idea actually

[dawn rose]

🤝 🥱

[rich plover]

@ripe needle mom look we are agreeing on something

[dawn rose]

case closed boys

[rose forum]

Finally an agreement lmao

[dawn rose]

(and girls + whatever else)

[rich plover]

I'll never unlock my pvp kits but idc xD

[rose forum]

I will help dw xD

[rich plover]

I don't even attack naked in wz because the guilt lol

[rose forum]

I sadly do sometimes

[dawn rose]

• looter unlocked after 7 days

[ripe needle]

[paper bone]

i still dont agree

[rose forum]

Its fine we cant all agree with it

Eesaa that came up with it so xD

[ripe needle]

its not like itll be locked forever sheeeesh. cause ngl, that what you sound like rn lol

[torn steppe]

"no point in having kits" just cus you cant use them for 1 week?

[torn steppe]

this wouldnt be fair for players who dont pvp

[paper bone]

why do u think ur all that

like ur just regurgitating what everyone else said

[torn steppe]

because the discussion got moved a different way each time the fact was brought up

[paper bone]

?????????

[torn steppe]

there is also 540 messages in this thread

[paper bone]

thats where the opinion lies lmao

does everything need to be fair

that is the ultimate final question

of this thread

[torn steppe]

yes

fairness is needed

[paper bone]

and where the opinion lies

so no one needs ur regurgitated opinion

[torn steppe]

then why open the thread?

[paper bone]

because its been over ?

[dawn rose]

i mean @rich plover @rose forum said it was fine

they dont pvp

[torn steppe]

imo thats not fine lol

[rapid talon]

little sick of getting the same answer to this when literally how is it not fair? The pvp kits are made for the pvpers. why is it so unfair that those same pvpers are able to use it ?

i dont get the mentality at all

[dawn rose]

maybe have alternate quests for pve players to get their kits then i guess

like certain levels in farming woodcutting mining etc

[torn steppe]

we could look at doing that

[dawn rose]

as well as the playtime, although not in warzone, could be overrall

thats the best fix i guess

[torn steppe]

So yall want it to run off playtime?

[dawn rose]

playtime + some challenges

so u have to be active

and actually playing not just afking

[torn steppe]

wouldnt that kinda be the same was it unlocking a week after release?

[torn steppe]

we dont have a way to measure this

[dawn rose]

just stop recording playtime when afk timer hits

[torn steppe]

the only way to measure it would be through ch's etc..

[dawn rose]

there was an island afk timer

so i dont see how you could use the same code

couldnt*

[torn steppe]

but we use playtime for a number of things that doing that would interfear with

[dawn rose]

uh idk how to go about that im not a dev

[torn steppe]

but i like the idea of using ch's for pve and kills / overall wz time for pvp'ers ill add that to the list

however when we did that previously it wasnt well recieved

but ig we can try it again

[dawn rose]

i mean its better than waiting 7 days imo

i think a lot would agree

[rapid talon]

i overall think the idea of needing a lock so that "new players can have a chance" they dont? a week does not give anyone the chance to catch up to ppl with kits.

[dawn rose]

but because of what you said maybe not, could do a poll for it

[warm pumice]

I mean there could be 2 options to unlock kits, 1st option is pvp challenge, 2nd option is pve

[torn steppe]

ye

ill add it to our list

[warm pumice]

Yep ofc

Thank you @dawn rose

[dawn rose]

just trying to help

[torn steppe]

@dawn rose ty for having a decent discussion

[dawn rose]

didnt mean to come off as argumentative before sorry

[warm pumice]

We appreciate it 😉

[dawn rose]

only took 589 messages to come to an agreement, must be a record

[torn steppe]

a public record

[torn steppe]

no hope in us smh

[rich plover]

It's not that I don't have hope in you, I just meant I feel like it would've wasted a lot of time you've already spent on rewriting the server if that wasn't already included

[ripe needle]

if the Chests Opened were a ch, wz would be complete chaos

[dawn rose]

yeah, warzone will be like, well, a warzone

[ripe needle]

exactly

[torn steppe]

[cursive nova]

we already said there will be global challenges to unlock the kits

[cursive nova]

it was

[blazing cairn]

Not a fan of this idea as personally think it should be fair at the start of the season or else new players will quit the early game grind

[low flax]

I Think that some kits should be locked for a week or so. However some kits likle builder and looter stay unlocked.

[inner creek]

Yes all pvp kits should be locked

[eager star]

Looter should be locked

[ripe needle]

Behind a difficult global ch, itll get the community together to work on it since everyone loves it so much

[jagged nest]

imo looter should be fixed to be released after a week

the others can be adjusted

[ripe needle]

Fair enough

I was gonna suggest have the quest take that long to unlock

[jagged nest]

I mean the fact it takes alot of time to unlock looter anyways it's kinda unfair to have to do so much just to use it

[ripe needle]

true

[lost smelt]

the server will die far too quick of you can use them too quick also if you can claim the kits from the begging then then players without any kits will have a big disadvantage

[ripe needle]

agreed vincent, it also allows the newbies and others to learn the server, rather than relying on kits for items

[lost smelt]

would make the warzone a living hell for newbies

[lost smelt]

yo check out my post and help me with it ❤️

a fond would be a great idea

[paper bone]

(notice how there is over double yes'