still two
#chat
frail spade
snipe EM
river jay
they exist
ashen hull
sorry to bothr during ur valorant game sobs
cloud sage
So glad I disabled getting dms from here
river jay
privacy settings
river jay
or mobile click the name and disable dms
ashen hull
xddd
dapper stream
HAHHA
ashen hull
Ur doin good pro mcdeli
river jay
i disabled mine again after the last raid
north wing
trying to hit diamon
cloud sage
Oof
dense gyro
Hello in the meantime I will entertain u all
cloud sage
Oh hi Liam
dapper stream
hi
ashen hull
with what
frail spade
oh hi liam
river jay
liam is enteratning
ashen hull
Wow im so entertained rn omg
river jay
go liamxo
dense gyro
Omg
ashen hull
where intertainment
ashen hull
why
dapper stream
why
cloud sage
Why
dense gyro
Because they live in schools!!!!
north wing
ok
dapper stream
LOL
north wing
i just bannedthem
river jay
tyty deli
dapper stream
yay
frail spade
i think there's two more-
river jay
nice one liam
ashen hull
Ban lim while ur at it for bad jokes
frail spade
are they all gonee?? ;w;
river jay
im stealing it
ashen hull
Liom
regal spoke
yeet
ashen hull
Leeom
dapper stream
Ban lim while ur at it for bad jokes
it was funeee
north wing
ty whoever helped
ashen hull
Leigh ohm
cloud sage
Corb, are you good??
dapper stream
Moderation Academy#8255
ashen hull
Im never giod
frail spade
corb demands violence.
dapper stream
thats the last o me
cloud sage
Oh ok
dapper stream
one*
ashen hull
Leeeeum
dense gyro
Ok ok
north wing
YO
dense gyro
Ready for this one
ashen hull
Leehee om
The michael jackson version
dapper stream
i’m ready
river jay
more jokes liam?
dense gyro
How do astronomers organize a party?
cloud sage
Corb pls LOL
regal spoke
WORDLE TIME
dapper stream
How?
ashen hull
Wheezes
regal spoke
OH BABY IT WORDLE TIME
dense gyro
They planet!!!!!!!
ashen hull
ignore,
river jay
KARASU TIME
ashen hull
ok im leaving ig bye
dapper stream
😈
ashen hull
k
frail spade
is it safe to turn dms back on?? ;;
cloud sage
Anyway, after that raid, how is everyone tonight
ashen hull
tired
cloud sage
That's a mood
vestal flint
Heh
river jay
is it safe to turn dms back on?? ;;
probably
cloud sage
Aw I'm sorry Corb :c
ashen hull
im abt to like just mute everything and stop talking in general lol
cloud sage
;;
vapid canyon
^
hoary wing
frail spade
;; ur amazing corb
merry ivy
I got wrong the math things and the map fell I feel so badddd 
merry ivy
What? I thought if one got it wrong everything would fall
merry ivy
qwq
Question, do the items for sale disappear after the sale?
Like, from the store_
?*
river jay
no
just from the sale
meaning if you buy it stays
but if its collector it isnt for sale anymore
merry ivy
Wait
I mean like if after the sale you can buy it in the store normally?
Even the not-fur items?
river jay
not rn
as its all collector items
you would need to wait for it to come back on sales
river jay
i own them
river jay
:)
haughty skiff
poor gang
merry ivy
OOO CUTE
merry ivy
OOO can I seeeeeee
river jay
:) some still needs customs tho
merry ivy
Awww it looks great so far
desert vine
is that youtube module still around
not even an hour of having this account and i already screwed up the password 💀
im a genius
merry ivy
Are you srs
desert vine
yes
desert vine
my pings like 20000000 at this point
dusty sapphire
Есть кто русский?)
scenic ingot
Есть кто русский?)
Я
plain nexus
😧
fervent latch
,verify ru
iron flameBOT
fervent latch
Через #rules-and-roles можно открыть русский чат #ru
thin mountain
,verify ro
iron flameBOT
golden gazelle
,verify pl
keen obsidian
Wait the new revamped TFM discord looks nice tbh
and we are implementing TFM wiki
Kind of cute
dense axle
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
shell void
is there a mobile version?
keen obsidian
Is this a... Bugembo?
CHEEEZYYY
keen obsidian
is there a mobile version?
Nope
iron flameBOT
sage hill
Как получить дополнительные права?
напиши ,verify
shell void
how do u have thatt??
last sedge
west galleon
CHEEEZYYY
Long time no seeeee... whatcha up to?
Connect in-game or on the forums.. you can check your tag by either login by e-mail or use the sewrch function to search your username and try every tag
iron flameBOT
last sedge
spambots never DM me from this server for some reason 
keen obsidian
Long time no seeeee... whatcha up to?
work.
I am so tired
Today is my off day but I have some unfinished business
😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
west galleon
work.
I am so tired
Today is my off day but I have some unfinished business
Finish it to become finished business?
sage hill
don’t need to create spam
keen obsidian
Finish it to become finished business?
A genius in the making DAMN
ALSO
XTINA IS COMING TO EXPO
serene rune
you folks were right indeed this lua event is #$%@#^
sage hill
классный ивент так то
sage mauve
Solve math problems!!
viral rune
@golden gazelle ...hello
viral rune
im always nice wym! c:
golden gazelle
1 sec I'll ss
viral rune
no
golden gazelle
(:
viral rune
:(
deft pivot
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
deft pivot
,help
iron flameBOT
west galleon
<@164416116683309056> what is it ? <:tfm_sad:283593716365787136>
Public required commands are available for all channels, such as team and shop. Player data is more for fun and thus only available in #bot
ancient whale
Ok thanks
noble fractal
@west galleon I am still waiting for your answer :(
hoary swallow
Бисмашоктобис
gleaming gyro
ancient whale
With Puffin
desert vine
is it tonga time?
gleaming gyro
https://tenor.com/view/hamster-meme-staring-hd-watching-gif-23055924
very handsome
desert vine
hamser
noble fractal
Ok it's this shit normal? 2 times the event map, got all right and didn't get one single egg..just got two eggs 2 days ago..
desert vine
need me the damn squirtle glasses but have no the money
noble fractal
is this a bug or I'm just so fucking unlucky?
twilit burrow
fortoresse is dead
copper juniper
anyone selling snoowballs?
golden gazelle
@fast scaffold Acepta mi solicitud, quiero hablarte sobre algo.
rain current
last sedge
anyone selling snoowballs?
I can sell 2cc each
copper juniper
rain current
ancient whale
anyone selling snoowballs?
10 froms l'unité si tu veux 
ashen hull
gm friens
ancient whale
Hi Corb !! 
ashen hull
hi<3
royal grove
Hello
serene rune
are country flags never going to be brought back?
ashen hull
¯_(ツ)_/¯
noble fractal
probably when the war ends
jagged rover
Conflict
keen obsidian
@west galleon are u still mod or you sbeaked into the module team HMMM??
wary bone
noble fractal
Jesus Christ...
ashen hull
o m g i see me
merry ivy
My PC would die if i was in a room with 73 other people wth
The other day I had like 10000 ping I have no idea how I was still connected 😭 lolol
merry ivy
My laptop can actually handle a lot of things, it's just my internet tbh 😔
golden gazelle
True
For me its viceversa lmao
My pc cant handle many things but my internet is good
merry ivy
Like, I can play genshin no problem and still have my browser open listening to music
golden gazelle
Talking about my pc i dont think i'll be able to use it anymore
merry ivy
oof, why?
golden gazelle
So
Windows puts that annoying
" windows 10 service expired blah blah blah restart "
Notification
And
I accidentally clicked restart now
My pc cant handle another thing 🥰
who poland?
noble fractal
My PC would die if i was in a room with 73 other people wth
luckly my pc can handle it
haughty skiff
helloo
golden gazelle
Hihi
ashen hull
hi <3
golden gazelle
hi corn :00
ashen hull
:)!
haughty skiff
how's it going :o
ashen hull
its goin good<3
hv to go to work soon tho
fathom wharf
Any moderators available to help me please?
golden gazelle
Any moderators available to help me please?
im not a moderator, but with what?
sinful arch
finally i finished this event
its so hard even with the event chat
well not hard but frustrating
golden gazelle
lol
fathom wharf
im not a moderator, but with what?
I had an old account in which I forgot the password and I filled out the form on the forum for support to recover the password. Meanwhile I created another account with the same nick and when I searched the forum for my old account it did not appear, it just showed the one I created recently
golden gazelle
@hollow halo tu peux accepter ma demande j'ai besoin de te parler
aucun modo francais repond srx
hollow halo
pas besoin de me demander en ami pour me parler normalement
golden gazelle
si
@hollow halo si
bah au pire je te le dit ici mon compte et ban je sais pas pourquoi sa me parle d'un autre compte que je connais meme pas
donc j'ai vraiment besoin d'aide
Bonsoir
comment on ft pour etre dans un salon tfm fr?
comment ?
je ne sais pas il ya pas un salon tfm que fr ?
la je suis a linternational
bah si
hoary swallow
Бисмашоктабис
cobalt goblet
Hii
golden gazelle
@blazing totem j'ai besoin d'un modo la c possible ?
cobalt goblet
Salut ✨
iron flameBOT
ancient whale
Tu te vérify et après tu vas dans #rules-and-roles sélectionner le drapeau
ancient whale
Tu vas dessus et tu marques ton pseudo et je sais pas quoi
Après dans #rules-and-roles tu sélectionnes le drapeau fr 🇫🇷
golden gazelle
Mp Riolue, tu l'as déjà en amis <:t_sus:945594100420317184>
il me rep pas
justement
il fait expres
@proud barn
golden gazelle
nn
golden gazelle
je suis pas dans le serveur fr
golden gazelle
je sais pas cmt onft
dense axle
,verify
iron flameBOT
shell void
luckyyyyyyyYYYYYYYYYYY
golden gazelle
no no lucky
there's a guy who's been missing 1 egg for 4 days
and me since yesterday at dawn lol I think I can still today (or not)
golden gazelle
i love my life
Good thing my luck is just missing, one to get at least in the second nest
distant forge
People ask do they believe in santa, but has santa ever believed in them?
golden gazelle
:00
sage mauve
Cheese and bacon egge
golden gazelle
the only one im missing D:
cursive seal
sage mauve
hello chizzz
gleaming gyro
ive spent 2 days trying to get this one 
ashen hull
Hi friens
jagged rover
This event sounds like a pain to complete
sage mauve
math
ashen hull
yes not fun
jagged rover
Ive already completed enough math in my life
ashen hull
yes not fun
math things i mean
jagged rover
Dont want to have maths on games i play cuz thats just making me use thigs i learnt on school
ashen hull
im too nb i just use a calculator
sage mauve
same here
jagged rover
Hi nubs
ashen hull
Sobs
sage mauve
cri
jagged rover
Too bad am grounded til i finish this year so no gamez for me
ashen hull
;(
sage mauve
Oh noes;;
jagged rover
Cuz im too cool
fossil pier
Wtf
fossil pier
Mfjdkd
jagged rover
Rip phone
ashen hull
Sobs
sage mauve
Dropped my phone
oh boi
ashen hull
i wana draw but i also need to work on hw h
sage mauve
Hw is a priority!!
ashen hull
Oo
ashen hull
Hw is a priority!!
Ik :<
jagged rover
Me
sage mauve
I cant even do hw cuz its all on pc
T-T
ashen hull
Nothing is due immediately tho aa
jagged rover
Corb art lovly
ashen hull
No ur lovely
quasi cobalt
I'm 18 and can't do -12 - -4 
ashen hull
I need to fix the doodl i did, the head is too big an its bothering me
jagged rover
Thats -8
ashen hull
Just -12+4
quasi cobalt
Just -12+4
My brain can't comprehend
ashen hull
ping ,
ashen hull
No need for pings im right here </3
quasi cobalt
a
jagged rover
(-1) - (-1) is 1 - 1 so it's 0
ashen hull
were is smert
jagged rover
Pretty much atleast
quasi cobalt
so smert
jagged rover
Pls im just not old like u guys
jagged rover
No
ashen hull
yus
jagged rover
Biggest lie ive ever seen
ashen hull
;(
jagged rover
All i do is play games and watch random videos on the internet
ashen hull
wott
jagged rover
Yes
ashen hull
Im just ready to be out of school either way dhdjdndh
jagged rover
college here is free too so thats fun
latent oak
Heyy rats!
ashen hull
hi,
acoustic harbor
that bio
ashen hull
= D
rain current
acoustic harbor
i wouldnt talk to that dude, hes suuper suspicious
noble fractal
i wouldnt talk to that dude, hes suuper suspicious
oh true didn't see it
jagged rover
Gee
noble fractal
probably a troll account xd
latent oak
Its my real account
Just for fun
Google sugar daddies
And u gonna find me baes
rain current
golden gazelle
No me siento bien Sr. Stark
haughty skiff
polar edge
hello guys, can anyone help me? I have a problem... when someone whispers to me it appears ''Player disconnected''
gleaming gyro
this whole time i didnt know u can click on names whaaaaaaaat
noble fractal
there was a announcement about it
cursive seal
yeah i noticed that too recently i think its new
cursive seal
i need to remake that sticker sometime
gleaming gyro
do a full version
gleaming gyro
rip
last sedge
hello guys, can anyone help me? I have a problem... when someone whispers to me ...
It's a bug after recent update
warm anchor
Hola
golden gazelle
i suck at fullbodies
do it T posing
simple blade
golden gazelle
why is the event map still broken
polar edge
It's a bug after recent update
is there any way i can solve it?
still epoch
Vaporeon fur when
kitsune...
noble fractal
kitsune...
vaporeon
golden gazelle
look how cool my stats are!! so even
steep gust
odd roost
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
odd roost
cant we see the time?
anyone help, i have all of the.items i cant see
odd roost
💕 
odd roost
btw if you click gift you can see the time
oh but anyway im away from my computer
small siren
ah i see mb
odd roost
ta de boa:]
vagrant knot
sage hill
iron flameBOT
golden gazelle
AAAAAAA rip my nitro profiles 😭
ancient whale
outer jetty
This is pain <:tfm_sad:283593716365787136>
I'm so sad
wise depot
oof a mutiny
outer jetty
wise depot
Casual reminder for everyone to type /atelier801 for cake hat
outer jetty
Anyone who wanna help me invite all of my members back? 😦
wise depot
1st you can try to check if they're in the discord shrug
outer jetty
What's discord shrug?
wise depot
@random hearth ingame
dont ever fall for typing /cafe
it spawns a bunch of the cafe logo all over your screen
merry ivy
But whyyy
random hearth
Anyone who wanna help me invite all of my members back? 😦
i'll help 
outer jetty
What's your username then tag?
random hearth
Nagami#1449
wise depot
oh hell cool
for the easter event
"Answers ± 1 of the correct answer are treated as correct."
so if the answer's like 1.2342837 because division
you can do 1 or 2
steep gust
This is pain <:tfm_sad:283593716365787136>
that's foul and mean
hope you get them back tho
outer jetty
Most of my members are offline so I don't know if I can invite them back
steep gust
well at least u have their name and tag, if you add as friend you can see when they're online to explain what happened and invite them back
hazy totem
wheat rock
No idea
outer jetty
outer jetty
This is pain <:tfm_sad:283593716365787136>
I'm so sad
Half of my members are always offline
steep gust
but how did it happen
outer jetty
What do I do now?
outer jetty
but how did it happen
He was bored
steep gust
i hate people that do that
wheat rock
Invite active people
outer jetty
also He was laughing after that..
wheat rock
And don't give powers to people you don't trust
steep gust
^
outer jetty
My tribe go through many heavy situations
wheat rock
Having a tribe is not easy
outer jetty
When Milk Gang has 55 Members, I dissolved it In Feb 10 then remade it in March 5 because of drama in the tribe chat
outer jetty
Having a tribe is not easy
I know right
The golden age of Milk gang is between November -> End of January 2022
golden gazelle
tulip eagle
When Milk Gang has 55 Members, I dissolved it In Feb 10 then remade it in March ...
Hey that kiel
outer jetty
Do you know him..?
outer jetty
Oh
tulip eagle
What can i help with u
outer jetty
My tribe go through many heavy situations like drama
outer jetty
Kiel is from philippines
Yes
tulip eagle
And I am too
outer jetty
My tribe go through many heavy situations like drama
and now he kicked most of my members.
outer jetty
And I am too
Wait what
tulip eagle
Yeah i am from philippines
tulip eagle
and now he kicked most of my members.
Yeah i've seen it in chat ph
For some reason I'd like to punch that man
outer jetty
For some reason I'd like to punch that man
Me too
tulip eagle
How come he able to kick ur members
outer jetty
He was always online so I ranked him up... ._.,
iron flameBOT
delicate basalt
Hi everyone :>
vernal anchor
Hello :>
ashen hull
hi
ancient whale
Hii
shell void
Hewo
obsidian tusk
helloo
river jay
@ashen hull remember we love you
outer jetty
Never inv that man again gamer
ok
elfin muskBOT
:warning: The server will restart in 2 minutes.
odd hornet
My anxiety peeking up about tomorrow be like:
for context, ima be with my bf for 2 days starting tomorrow
golden gazelle
rancid crow
odd hornet
marble trellis
fiery bison
marble trellis
royal grove
Anyone in game can tell me when sales end?
mystic glacier
furries be like
dense axle
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
dense axle
Anyone in game can tell me when sales end?
in a few hours probably
royal grove
Hmm, thank you
marble trellis
ratt pett
golden gazelle
Hi
delicate basalt
Anyone in game can tell me when sales end?
Here u go :)
golden gazelle
Yes
royal grove
Thank youu
delicate basalt
Thank youu
Np!
last sedge
is there any way i can solve it?
No i don't think so. Several people are experiencing this problem and i don't know how to fix it.
You and your friends can try manually start dialog with /c nickname#tag or /c nickname#tag* , but i doubt that will help. Especially if someone with the same nickname is online
Tho you can verify yourself in this server and report the bug here #bugs-and-errors-old
copper juniper
Did they exclude snowballs from items sold at the village? I legit haven't seen any in months, and I go check often
When is the last time you saw snowballs at the village ?
noble fractal
Did they exclude snowballs from items sold at the village? I legit haven't seen ...
a few weeks ago
copper juniper
a few weeks ago
ok, it's just my bad luck then
thanks
i'm getting paranoid since the tombstone crackdown
noble fractal
I think the rips are not a big deal
copper juniper
yeah but i was scared they would ban all troll items eventually
last sedge
Sell snowballs 2cc each 
tulip eagle
Anyone can i join a tribe?
dense axle
someone has set a rotation 8, so it's not a bug
royal grove
What's "map rotation"?
royal grove
Hmm
last sedge
What's "map rotation"?
I see this question for the 3rd time in the last 24h
royal grove
bright stone
🇹 🇫 🇲 🇦 🇼 🇭 🇪 🇳
ancient whale
steep gust
ancient whale
lunar roost
noble fractal
golden gazelle
what is that? bug or new module?
Modules can't run automatically in rooms without #
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
golden gazelle
how much time left?
stiff osprey
yeah
golden gazelle
oh yikes
golden gazelle
no butterfly fur then
i hope the next sales are smth not on my wishlist so i can have a break ><
livid mica
golden gazelle
most of the furs on my wishlist (not that many) are spring themed
ever since the Moobloom fur it's only furs from my wishlist that go on sale 😂
Unfortunately I'm gonna miss the night butterfly one tho
simple blade
last sedge
Melon_battery is up to smth 👀
simple blade
I'll give you a hint for the next sales.... There's a.... particular day coming up... 👀
last sedge
🤡
golden gazelle
unless the MLG glasses go on sale (perfect occasion tbh) I think I'm good on meme stuff 
golden gazelle
Here comes maid fur
Maidformice
odd hornet
I'll give you a hint for the next sales.... There's a.... particular day coming ...
Lemme guess, TFM bday or April Fools?
XD
last sedge
too early for bday ig
wheat rock
tfm bday is May 1st
small siren
Still waiting for troll badge
golden gazelle
Still waiting for troll badge
Buy the maid fur 420 times
small siren
Illegal
jagged rover
MAID FUR
unreal basin
golden gazelle
dead meme
unreal basin
I’m too old to keep up with meme culture
golden gazelle
I'll give you a hint for the next sales.... There's a.... particular day coming ...
day 524 of waiting for mos fur
golden gazelle
I’m too old to keep up with meme culture
same
im not even 20
👁️ 👄 👁️
mos fur?
jagged rover
Reddit is a good place for memes
west galleon
I’m too old to keep up with meme culture
I'm too old to even know there's a meme culture 😭
golden gazelle
hah
last sedge
ancient Santa Maus
silent fox
boo
ashen hull
<@851329172890583060> remember we love you
ly
river jay
Ly too 
quasi cobalt
I'll give you a hint for the next sales.... There's a.... particular day coming ...
Guys don't forget to celebrate kitsune fur day on the 29th of March
dapper mural
friday is april fools
vagrant knot
hi
tulip eagle
Hehh
vagrant knot
how can i confirm my account
tulip eagle
Idk
frozen nova
Guys don't forget to celebrate kitsune fur day on the 29th of March
Hope it comes...
tulip eagle
Tomorrow?
frozen nova
Dont know just wish it did come plus sales are changing tonight...
dusky crypt
torn lance
wait is it actually the day the kitsune fur came out?
steep gust
i don't know if it's only me but i tried to login (through steam) but i keep getting a msg "incorrect version, try to reload the game" idk what it is, tried to reload and even reinstall it but nothing worked 
vestal flint
Try logging on Electron version
vestal flint
Sad
steep gust
tfm really don't want me to play today
golden gazelle
can someone gift me the blush please ty
steep gust
now im kinda sad bc i had been grinding since release the sale and it ends today right?
river jay
NODDERS
steep gust
idk if it fixes i hope it does
abstract nimbus
can someone gift me the blush please ty
this?
abstract nimbus
sure
golden gazelle
thank you!
abstract nimbus
golden gazelle
❤️
abstract nimbus
river jay
Just fair warning
It's in two different catagories
:)
It's a surprise which you get
golden gazelle
what is?
golden gazelle
really???
golden gazelle
I thought it's only in the eye category
river jay
Also the pirate band thing
This is eye and head iirc
It's two different
Cause some ig wanted an eye it or contact with it
The pirate band was cause creator and staff thought two different catagories
golden gazelle
oh wow
that's good to know
a good amount of time ago, wasn't there a trading and gifting channel here? or am I misremembering things?
eager kiln
should i buy 10 dollar nitro for a month
serene rune
should i buy 10 dollar nitro for a month
no
buy it from servers that sell it for lower price wtf
jagged rover
Isnt that against discord tos
Also there's a 5 dollar option if you dont want to boost servers
serene rune
Isnt that against discord tos
it technically is but they usually do not find out abt these
🤷
last sedge
Isnt that against discord tos
who cares
dense axle
now everyone will beg 😐
queen basin
kk
what is "celeste" in the name of this rune?
royal grove
Probably
noble fractal
yes
last sedge
It's a 'clear blue sky' color according to google
from Spanish/Italian
So many names of colors damn
I can't remember them in my native language! How am I suppose to learn them in english :c
odd hornet
,shop sale
iron flameBOT
odd hornet
a
silent fox
oo
last sedge
I like how easily I can find native speakers of many languages here and ask whenever and whatever I want
golden gazelle
BLUE SKY***
sky blue
last sedge
skue bly
odd hornet
slue bky
golden gazelle
every time someone uses those lame reddit slangs it reminds me of danila getting insulted with them
but dnl didn't understand a thing LOL
merry ivy
Reddit slang?
odd hornet
bky slue
odd hornet
the j-
merry ivy
Those are just tone indicators...?
odd hornet
/j = Joking
golden gazelle
dumb asf
merry ivy
They actually are helpful
golden gazelle
Anyway
last sedge
every time someone uses those lame reddit slangs it reminds me of danila getting...
i'm getting insulted with them? :0
pale holly
/not mad!!
last sedge
oof thats hard to guess
merry ivy
Sorry
grizzled heath
merry ivy
What is padder?
celest vapor
padders are very talented transformice players that we all respect
merry ivy
Ohh
noble fractal
LMFAO
soft snow
They actually are helpful
No one asked but I personally think that they kinda limit us and our ability to use a language instead, ability to adjust words to make a specific tone so they can be interpreted in a specific way. After all this is how the art of language works, you tell emotions through them without using non-verbal communication, that's why different language forms exist too. This kind of thing may be better for communication in colloquial speech and reduce misunderstandings, but I still think that after all the ability to use language is way more precious and we can appreciate it more, it's also the basics of literature, poetry, speeches, shit that humanity always adored. I mean, this is to keep a certain standard. That may be why it's confusing to a lot of people too, I guess
noble fractal
copy paste
merry ivy
it's literally the oposite
OH
golden gazelle
No one asked but I personally think that they kinda limit us and our ability to ...
it's just stupid lol
merry ivy
I like it ok? It helps me understand things:(
golden gazelle
padders are very talented transformice players that we all respect
only half of the sentence is true
soft snow
I've always had similar feelings but never had the chance to actually talk about it
merry ivy
and they only care for status (in this case, firsts)
Oh that's dumb
soft snow
I like it ok? It helps me understand things:(
Yes, ok. I'm not saying you can't use it, or it's bad to use it. I wanted to maybe start a discussion or something
golden gazelle
i 100% agree
merry ivy
Yes, ok. I'm not saying you can't use it, or it's bad to use it. I wanted to may...
Oh sorry sorry
soft snow
No need to sorry, everything's fine q-q
merry ivy
Oh okok
last sedge
Yes, ok. I'm not saying you can't use it, or it's bad to use it. I wanted to may...
I'd like to participate in the discussion but i'm not that good at english :c
golden gazelle
neither in Russian
last sedge
nah i'm good at it compare to most of the russians
soft snow
I'd like to participate in the discussion but i'm not that good at english :c
I have to look up words in the dictionary like always and then I think if they have the same meaning in my native language or they are used in completely different situations so I end up typing for 20 minutes and people get afraid ;___;
haughty skiff
I dont think tone indicators really limit the use of the language, at least personally. I myself struggle a lot with determining what tone people are using through text, so often times I may accidentally interpret a joke as being serious or someone being serious as a joke. Tone indicators can help me so that there's no misunderstandings. of course different words have different connotations so you can use different words to indicate a different tone, but not everyone is good with words and the denotations/connotations of such words
last sedge
I have to look up words in the dictionary like always and then I think if they h...
omg same! I can type 4 words for 5 mins Just searching meanings, translations, idioms ect
last sedge
I dont think tone indicators really limit the use of the language, at least pers...
if someone jokes and there is a need to add indicator of the joke then one should learn a little about humor
haughty skiff
Not necessarily. What some people take as a joke, other people may not
Someone could say, "you're gay" and it would be a joke, but other people may think, "how dare you say I'm gay, that's gross"
soft snow
I dont think tone indicators really limit the use of the language, at least pers...
I think stating that the joke is a joke sometimes destroys the whole joke. For me, it's like you don't get the time to laugh. There's always an opportunity to ask if something's serious as well, I think it's a good option, and also one that would open people to each other way more. Tone indicators can indeed be helpful, but are they really needed? And I often think, if they can have a bad effect in conclusion in terms of communicating
soft snow
Someone could say, "you're gay" and it would be a joke, but other people may thi...
Honestly they're really bad people if they treat being gay as an insult
haughty skiff
Yeah but it happens, some people don't think of it as a joke
abstract nimbus
it can be quite hard to tell what the tone of a message is over the internet, those indicators help w that
soft snow
Yeah but it happens, some people don't think of it as a joke
Ye, you'd have to explain to them, or... simply ignore them, if they're not being nice to you because of that
last sedge
I think stating that the joke is a joke sometimes destroys the whole joke. For m...
I think stating that the joke is a joke sometimes destroys the whole joke
y e s
it's like off-screen laughter in sitcoms
soft snow
it can be quite hard to tell what the tone of a message is over the internet, th...
Yes, I am aware, and I also think it's a good point of tone indicators. Still, shouldn't we develop our communicating skills in a 'more productive' way, by manipulating the language better, studying how it works and how we should use it, instead of making it simpler and simpler
haughty skiff
What about people who might not understand English very well? They don't know all the specific nuances of the language so manipulation of the language like that wouldn't quite work
last sedge
Honestly they're really bad people if they treat being gay as an insult
you call like half of the eastern world bad
soft snow
I also think the main point of telling jokes is for people to realise it's a joke and to find them funny
regal spoke
it can be quite hard to tell what the tone of a message is over the internet, th...
cate i lov u /srs
last sedge
I also think the main point of telling jokes is for people to realise it's a jok...
this 100%
haughty skiff
I can still laugh at jokes when people make it clear it's a joke, because if you tell a joke often the inflection and tone of your voice makes it clear that it's a joke, it's like adding /j to your text but you can't change your voice over text
soft snow
What about people who might not understand English very well? They don't know al...
Hmm, that's a problem, indeed. But aren't they minimalising their chance to develop their skills in English then? Instead of searching new words, exploring how they express tone, and stuff, they just rely on a simple indicator. Better for understanding and communciation, as I stated before. But may have worse effects than expected 🤔
abstract nimbus
cate i lov u /srs
i lov u!!!!! /srs
golden gazelle
yo is there any mod there? i just got falsely muted smh??
golden gazelle
Hmm, that's a problem, indeed. But aren't they minimalising their chance to deve...
☝️
haughty skiff
Tone indicators are also important for people who have trouble with understanding, and not just due to language barriers, for example health conditions and such
regal spoke
yo is there any mod there? i just got falsely muted smh??
ya you can DM me
dense axle
nothing
haughty skiff
I hope it doesn't seem like I'm arguing I'm just discussing, I'm not mad or irritated at all
last sedge
I can still laugh at jokes when people make it clear it's a joke, because if you...
I can in my navite lang. If somebody had hear me at least once they can tell through the text what is my voice or tone or whatnot
Idk if english as much emotional as russian but in any way i'm not that experienced in eng so I sound as dry as... well u got the point
regal spoke
tone indicators are also quite helpful for neurodivergent folk who may have a hard time reading the subtle clues of online language, such as folks with ASD
haughty skiff
yeah I couldn't figure out how to word it but I was trying to say that @ karasu thank you
I'm pretty sure they originated to help with neurodivergent folk? But I could be wrong of course I just heard it from somewhere
soft snow
Tone indicators are also important for people who have trouble with understandin...
Indeed, that's a point, and I think the main point why others started to use it. But then comes my huge thought process, is it really good for your health, if when someone won't use a tone indicator, you then won't understand? We can't make it a basic part of language, after all, because an ability to use the language itself is an ability to manipulate the words right. Wouldn't it be actually healthier to teach people more about the beauty of language using, and how different tones are stated by words? This could also allow everyone do develop their skills in understanding literature, poetry and have a chance to enjoy it more
haughty skiff
Some people can't understand, probably have tried and tried very hard but it's not as simple as that for everyone
last sedge
tone indicators are also quite helpful for neurodivergent folk who may have a ha...
yeah yeah and sign language is useful for deaf ppl. But we're talking about normal conversations, not deviant
soft snow
Some people can't understand, probably have tried and tried very hard but it's n...
Yes, that's why they need a solution for that problem. I wonder, if tone indicators really would help them, or just limit it more for them
haughty skiff
Does everyone really need to be super good with the language though?
soft snow
Yes! That would even get people closer to each other
haughty skiff
Some people (like me) avoid confrontation due to a lot of past stuff so if someone makes a joke and I take it as not a joke I would pretend I think of it as a joke but not say anything
Because I dont want to start anything
And sometimes people could be like "you're so stupid obviously it was a joke" which would make me feel worse
golden gazelle
Soy homero, pero, homero shino
soft snow
Does everyone really need to be super good with the language though?
Of course not for practical purposes, this is not needed. But is teaching the society less complicated methods making us grow or fall into that simplicity?
soft snow
And sometimes people could be like "you're so stupid obviously it was a joke" wh...
Then these people really suck. It's a different topic tbh
regal spoke
yeah yeah and sign language is useful for deaf ppl. But we're talking about norm...
you never know whether the person youre speaking with online is neurodivergent or not. or even just someone casually lurking in on the conversation.
please be considerate of others, and maybe refrain from excluding folks by using language such as "normal vs deviant"
haughty skiff
But we aren't falling into simplicity, schools teach all of the complicated stuff, we are teaching alternatives for people who can't or don't understand
soft snow
Eh, I can't really explain it better. I don't think making everything more and more simple for us leads to good things
haughty skiff
It's not like we stopped teaching that stuff just because tone indicators came about
golden gazelle
Schools are crap, they make you to memorize instead of learning
soft snow
It's not like we stopped teaching that stuff just because tone indicators came a...
Ye, I know. But if we teach it and doesn't use it, is there a point of it?
haughty skiff
That's like saying, why make a wheelchair ramp? Some people don't use it
abstract nimbus
it's a matter of making language & conversations more accessible for a greater variety of people, nothing wrong with that
golden gazelle
What are y'all talking about I'm lost
abstract nimbus
hi lost im kt
last sedge
you never know whether the person youre speaking with online is neurodivergent o...
If someone misunderstand me several times - I know that smth wrong.
Doesn't 'divergent folk' means the same as 'normal vs deviant' ?
whats the difference between divergent and deviant?
haughty skiff
That's another issue, you can't just look up dictionary definitions for stuff, they have different connotations even if they have the same denotation
golden gazelle
I feel like language should have some rules because otherwise people will use words and every word will have a different meaning depending on the person, and that's a mess
soft snow
That's like saying, why make a wheelchair ramp? Some people don't use it
I think you don't kinda get my point. I'm not saying it is useless, or anything, and I'm not saying we should stop it because neurodivigent people can of course learn to use the language better and understand the tones bla bla bla >:( Reffering to your example, I'm saying, wouldn't it be better to have a goal of trying to make that person walk again, or make thousands more of wheelchair ramps? Of course, in some cases it's not possible to teach them walking again, but that's again a different topic, and those people should be treaten different
abstract nimbus
it's not the same
last sedge
whats the difference between divergent and deviant?
so?
golden gazelle
Oooh, so tone indicators are what people use on Reddit
jagged rover
Slightly confused but I see some useful stuff to keep in mind in the future
golden gazelle
the /s and /j thingy
abstract nimbus
yeah @ indexinel
jagged rover
Oooh, so tone indicators are what people use on Reddit
Mostly twitter
golden gazelle
I know but that's the only social media I use actively lul
last sedge
Mostly twitter
yeah I thought it was a twitter thing because of symbol limit. Reddit doesn't have it why would they use it
imagine indicate that you're sarcastic
haughty skiff
I do get your point, we should focus on solving the issue rather than making it easier when you have an issue, right?
You said we should teach them walking again rather than make many more wheelchair ramps.
But for neurodivergrnt people who can't tell tone that can't be cured, or "taught walking again", it's not the same
golden gazelle
I use it because some people don't get the jokes and I'd like to avoid confusion
abstract nimbus
sarcasm doesn't translate well into text sometimes, no harm in clarifying
river jay
^
last sedge
> I think stating that the joke is a joke sometimes destroys the whole joke
y e ...
same with sarcasm
last sedge
I also think the main point of telling jokes is for people to realise it's a jok...
and this
regal spoke
whats the difference between divergent and deviant?
good question!
the term "deviant" when applied to a person or behaviour is often used for people like participate in negative adult activities. such as drug use, excessive alcohol consumption, perverted activities. basically a very negative light to paint someone in.
"divergent" on its own isn't typically applied to people, but when it is, its typically in a more positive light. such as saying "divergent thinker" to mean you're creative
"neurodivergent" is a term used to describe those with a wide range of mental and neurological disorders. an umbrella term for folks all over a spectrum of symptoms
while they may be similar, certain word choices can make the world of a difference
soft snow
I do get your point, we should focus on solving the issue rather than making it ...
Yes, that is it. Oh, then my bad, I'm not very familiar with neurodivergency. Wasn't sure that this can't be cured at all, thought it's a different case completely. But here comes another case: some people without neurodivergency are starting to use that, because it's simpler for them. And eh, this is the group I'm reffering to. The ones, that can use different methods, but choose this one and make it more and more popular this way
last sedge
good question!
the term "deviant" when applied to a person or behaviour is ofte...
oh man... Lemme time to read and translate this
golden gazelle
I thought deviant was something related to art because of DeviantArt
haughty skiff
It's a good thing they make it more popular, because some closed minded people would think they're stupid or weird for using tone indicators, if it becomes common place to use them then they won't be judged for having to use them
soft snow
This discussion is developing so fast I'm struggling with reading all messages
soft snow
It's a good thing they make it more popular, because some closed minded people w...
Eh, I think close minded people would stay close minded, unless their reason for being close minded isn't cured
And I don't think tone indicators are the problem for them and the reason of being close minded
jagged rover
My brain slowly exploding with info overload
sage mauve
👀
soft snow
That's a good trait, I've just stated it in case I won't respond to smth ,,,,,,,,,
golden gazelle
I only know /s and /j, what does /srs mean?
haughty skiff
A close minded person would use a fidget spinner "because it's cool", while a neurodivergent person would use a fidget spinner because it makes them more comfortable, but because fidget spinners became popular (at least until they became "cringe" i guess), then people would say "haha that'd a fidget spinner? fidget toys are so lame, you can't focus you have to use that"
regal spoke
I thought deviant was something related to art because of DeviantArt
mmm at its core it simply means "departing from the norm". it just usually takes in a more negative meaning when applied to people or actions specifically
haughty skiff
/srs is serious
sage hill
hello everyone
last sedge
good question!
the term "deviant" when applied to a person or behaviour is ofte...
Oh I see! Now I know the russian word for what you described as 'deviant'
Yeah I know about neuro-things
jagged rover
Angry birds
haughty skiff
Sorry I'm quite bad at wording, I'm very sleepy
jagged rover
Soup may help?
golden gazelle
My hands are melting
haughty skiff
hold a warm mug of coffee?
golden gazelle
it's so hot outside and there's 0 sun
haughty skiff
or just warm water if you don't want to drink
soft snow
A close minded person would use a fidget spinner "because it's cool", while a ne...
Yes, but those people that are laughing from fidget toys aren't laughing because fidget toys exist. They are laughing because of other reasons, like the urge to be original, different (for example), so things that are a totally different topic and that have to be treated completely differently
sage hill
i love a pumpkin soup
haughty skiff
We've gone onto an entirely different topic 
soft snow
We've gone onto an entirely different topic <:tfm_OMG:283593716382302218>
Yes I got lost, there are so many topics now q___q
haughty skiff
hehehe
I will stand by my thoughts that tone indicators are useful and not detrimental/bad for the language though
soft snow
Ye, completely different one than the question asked before : Do tone indicators help, or can have bad results XD my brain got distracted from all of that O__O
haughty skiff
I also tend to use emojis a lot because it helps my tone seem more kind/playful
jagged rover
I mean they seem harmless so
regal spoke
Oh I see! Now I know the russian word for what you described as 'deviant'
Yeah I...
no worries!
language, especially english, is a very strange thing 
2 words that may be closely related in terms of base definition can end up meaning 2 wildly different things when actually used
and then you get phrases like "hot minute" that could either mean "very recently" or "several months ago" depending on how its used in context. very confusing indeed!
golden gazelle
I hate english because of that
soft snow
I mean they seem harmless so
They seem. It's just I've always wondered, if the effects behind them would in the end make us 'regress'(?) in communication skills and language managing
golden gazelle
but I have to use it every day 😢
last sedge
Anyway when I see tone indicators in messages addressed to me I either think that a person can't express themself proreply or they take me for a stupid
soft snow
Anyway when I see tone indicators in messages addressed to me I either think tha...
Aaaaah, definitely a wrong thinking, but I experience that too
jagged rover
If it helps people understand stuff clearer i dont think it regresses anything
golden gazelle
@steady trail
soft snow
I'm not really sure what words to use to describe how they can make it regress either, my english is too poor
And my brain stops to work lol
haughty skiff
I can definitely see how it could make you think they take you for an idiot