do it 
#Bring back 2.4.1 copycat weights
limpid vale
stoic dagger
frail hornet
do it <:3drevenge:1036394537989451897>
theye still 100kg?
limpid vale
theye still 100kg?
500
stoic dagger
thats our main issue 😭
frail hornet
wuh
stoic dagger
we want them to be 100
frail hornet
wtf
stoic dagger
yeah 😭
frail hornet
@unborn karma why are copycats changing by size
can we just set them to default modded weight
100kg
frail hornet
no the default is like 500
no it isnt
unborn karma
Idk man I’m not even sure if the dynamic (block size based) weight PR was merged or not
frail hornet
idk almost all copycats are 500kg 
stoic dagger
no every copycat
frail hornet
nope
stoic dagger
block is
frail hornet
some are 100
stoic dagger
frail hornet
i know.
limpid vale
frail hornet
if you really want it changed change it yourself.
though im fairly sure its gonna get changed either way
limpid vale
100 would at least make them actually usable again
tough zealot
@unborn karma may i inquire about the history of the weight and mass changes and their objective pros and cons along with the thrust of certain methods along that timeline
frail hornet
most servers (like the clockwork one) isnt chaning it
no
like i mean PR it into VS
this honestly could just be fixed with removing the file that changes them to 500kg 😭
limpid vale
tbh i still feel like just making a poll would be the better solution
let the people decide
limpid vale
frail hornet
theyre right yknow
limpid vale
no ofc i wouldn't say that the people using the mod are the ones knowing what's good and will make using the mod better
lmao
unborn karma
You realise that us devs
Balance our forces
Around the weights
You users think the weights are what matter, but actually it’s what us devs balance our forces as that matters
And higher weights = harder for ships to randomly yeet
Also it makes more sense for calculations since water is 1000kg
Instead of a random ass 100kg
limpid vale
And higher weights = harder for ships to randomly yeet
why would they yeat randomly?
frail hornet
vs moment
limpid vale
?
stoic dagger
Also it makes more sense for calculations since water is 1000kg
no offense jst work on the mod instead of making weights bad?
im not a coder so idk how hard it is
but like
it worked fine most of the time for me
no yeeting
only when clockwork came out i found random yeet bugs
wind eagle
To be honest, I've had of thrust related issues since suddenly increasing the weight again, but wouldn't it be better to roll back once and fix the problems that arise there rather than fixing both the weight and thrust?
unborn karma
To be honest, I've had of thrust related issues since suddenly increasing the we...
no
because
most addons never adjusted to the weight reduction in beta.11
limpid vale
most addons never adjusted to the weight reduction in beta.11
well propulsion did
but didn't get back
unborn karma
propulsion has already changed to the new (old) heavier weights
limpid vale
propulsion has already changed to the new (old) heavier weights
uhm
frail hornet
they mean the thrust amount
unborn karma
unborn karma
and have you done /vs remass @v[]
limpid vale
the world was created with that version
unborn karma
🤷idk what to say
maybe ask delta to buff thrusters
the weights are not going to be reduced again, aside from specific blocks (like copycats)
limpid vale
it is bc copycat blocks weigh half a ton lol
unborn karma
it is bc copycat blocks weigh half a ton lol
oh wait
I have a theory
leave the game
and nuke any VS config file you can find
unborn karma
the default weight and stuff is now config-able, but if we change the config default people with existing configs don't get updated
frail hornet
it is
wind eagle
The thrust of the propulsion thruster has returned to 1.0, but since it doesn't fly, I think that's the most likely cause.
wind eagle
Try turning on the thruster
undone maple
no offense jst work on the mod instead of making weights bad?
i will lower copycat weights eventually here, be patient
undone maple
let the people decide
did i mention the people are stupid
look, when i have time, i'm gonna relegate q and fix as much stuff as possible with weights and thrusts
howevr
its going to affect planes, blimps, and boats differently
and one of you mfs is always gonna be complaining
still flare
idk almost all copycats are 500kg <:coppercrying:1057783733689794684>
USE A DATAPACK🙏 😭
Learn java or use the Website zomato made
frail hornet
USE A DATAPACK🙏 😭
that's what i told them to do
frail hornet
Learn java or use the Website zomato made
wasnt the website made by bricky boy
still flare
wasnt the website made by bricky boy
Idk who it is now but it exists
frail hornet
yeah
im not gonna use a datapack since my planes fly nicely idk how these peoples don't
bitter hemlock
look, when i have time, i'm gonna relegate q and fix as much stuff as possible w...
enjoy taking on the insane backlash yourself then
The copycats have always been half the weight of water
they used to be 50kg before the restoration to 10x weights
so they’re the same weight compared to everything else as they used to be
I considered reducing their mass based on their size, but I was worried someone would get mad at me for messing with the existing weights
I suggest we leave things as they are and wait for the collision box based mass reduction to be reimplemented
that will fix all of the problems
undone maple
I suggest we leave things as they are and wait for the collision box based mass ...
hopefully lol