How do I make engines faster? (Marin’s help center 😭)

[patent bronze]

I build big ships and I always place lots and lots of engines and build my ships with aluminum but they’re still painfully slow, how do I fix this?

[dull granite]

there is no way

try using a different addon for ship control

if you’re making a water ship, I would recommend VS Sails and some thruster mod (there are many)

if you’re making an air ship, tournament balloons are currently the only non-Eureka way. They pair well with the helm from VS Sails for a somewhat Eureka-like experience. Propulsion will have much better balloons somewhat soon tho.

For space ships, try either Starlance, Space War, or Zero Point Labs (or some combination)

when using tournament balloons tho, you need to add drag to keep the ship from going crazy. To do that, place either Clockwork flaps or Propulsion wings in all orientations

[patent bronze]

I’m building water ships

[patent bronze]

Ah I see

[dull granite]

not relevant for water ships tho

Sails and some thruster mod would do fine

[patent bronze]

Which thrusters?

[dull granite]

take your pick. There aren’t a lot of great options yet, but Propulsion and VStuff are currently working on proper water propellers. The current options are:

Propulsion: hydrogen rocket engine looking thing

Clockwork: propeller bearings, but they are weak under water

Tournament: firework thruster (easy to hide)

Zero Point Labs: ion engine

Starlance: scifi version of propulsion thruster

Warium: WW2-style aircraft propellers & jet engines

Sails adds sails ofc, but I assume you’re making a modern engine-driven ship

[patent bronze]

We’re talking this bit

Big

I’ll try tournament

[dull granite]

tournament thrusters are probably the best

very non intrusive

without Eureka tho, you’ll have to either balance your ship manually with ballast, or add some Magic Ballast

the Sails equivalent of Eureka floaters is Buoy Blocks

[patent bronze]

I see

[dull granite]

I would recommend balancing your ship manually because it is more fun and leads to more natural behavior from your ship

but ofc Magic Ballast is always an option

there’s a tutorial for ship balancing on the vs sails wiki page: https://wiki.valkyrienskies.org/wiki/Valkyrien_Sails

[patent bronze]

Thank you very much :))

[dull granite]

you’re welcome!

[patent bronze]

Also

[long pendant]

vs sails mentioned

[patent bronze]

I’ll need lots of thrusters cuz I placed 3 fully upgraded ones and it increased 0.1 knots in speed

Pardon M/s

[dull granite]

dang

that’s a yikes

yeah, someone really needs to make propellers that work underwater badly 😬

[patent bronze]

It should be light tho

Yeah

I built a big ship not long ago but I never got back to it

Titanic size

Eureka does wonders

[dull granite]

yeah

[patent bronze]

Survival peak with this one

[dull granite]

it does a great job making sure any ship you build will behave exactly the same lol

[patent bronze]

I just need pressurized ships and my life is complete

[dull granite]

the nice thing about using a non-eureka addon tho is that your ship can be moving without you at the helm

[dull granite]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/beyond-oxygen

it won’t get rid of the visual of the water’s surface, but it will do everything else

[patent bronze]

I need that very badly

Thank you so much

[dull granite]

you can change the config to not use liquid oxygen too if you don’t want to add a mod that adds oxygen fluid

change it to like water or something lol

It’s a little confusing to get working right, so lmk if you need help

[patent bronze]

Ok, thank you very much

😭

[dull granite]

the dev is also currently working on making it get rid of the water surface visual

[patent bronze]

Thank GOD

[dull granite]

so the next update might have that feature

[patent bronze]

How will that work tho

🙏🙏🙏

Subs will finally be possible

[low spire]

I think it already gets rid of surface water

it just gets rid of it outside the submarine too, if you are inside the submarine

[naive bobcat]

tournament thrusters dont work underwater 😭

[patent bronze]

What if you place them over water

[naive bobcat]

ye that works

[patent bronze]

Could place a few in the funnel

[patent bronze]

Wait so i can actually have lower decks on my ship now

[dull granite]

not yet, but whenever Sierra figures it all out

the feature is still not stable

[naive bobcat]

hopefully propulsion copper props are decent. With Clockwork, u can pump 4k SU into a 5 block long boat and still go slower than a vanilla rowboat

[dull granite]

tbh I have half a mind to just make “VS Steamship Utilities” or something

[patent bronze]

That would be a great idea if possible

Also in the future if it’s somehow fixable for the rain not to penetrate entities

Sometimes they do currently tho

For me

Wait I encountered a problem

When I control the helm I lose all the speed in the thrusters

[dull granite]

what helm

[patent bronze]

Ship helm

[dull granite]

Eureka overrides all physics to make it move

that’s why I suggested using the helm from VS Sails instead

[patent bronze]

Ohhhhh

I wasn’t paying attention pardon me

I’ll try that

Is it any different from the normal helm?

[dull granite]

you will need to remove the ship helm entirely for the speed to go higher than Eureka’s max speed

[dull granite]

it is completely different. All it does is add an invisible rudder behind your ship and turns the rudder as you turn the wheel

[patent bronze]

Ooh boy

[dull granite]

what

[patent bronze]

Gonna have to rebalance my ship

If it affects the buoyancy

[dull granite]

it will

Eureka floaters will not work once you remove the Eureka helm, so you will have to use Buoys from Sails instead

you will probably need fewer of them tho since Buoys are a bit more powerful than Floaters

[patent bronze]

Yeahhhhhq

[dark scroll]

there's been almost 100 replies to the post in less than an hour

what is going on in here 🤣

[patent bronze]

Ship needs to go faster

[dull granite]

remember the tutorial on the sails wiki page

or just use magic ballast if you’re lame

[patent bronze]

I wanna be lame

[dull granite]

it’s not that hard 😭

[patent bronze]

I’ll check that out right now

[dark scroll]

you were using eureka?

[dull granite]

just place heavy blocks low down in your ship and add buoys to offset the extra weight

[dark scroll]

and want eureka engines faster?

or nah?

[dull granite]

most of the slowdowns in water come from water drag, not ship weight

[patent bronze]

Ran aground

[patent bronze]

Sure

I’d like to know that variant as well

All variants are welcome

[patent bronze]

Time for netherite blocks

[dark scroll]

is that what the post was originally for?

[patent bronze]

Yessir

[dull granite]

you can just use ballast blocks from VS Sails. They are survival friendly

[patent bronze]

How hard is aluminum to craft?

[dull granite]

idk

what mod

[dark scroll]

@dull granite

what are ya doin

whyd you tell em you cant do that right as the first thing in the post?

[dark scroll]

there is a config to increase the speed the eureka engines boost your ship by

[dull granite]

oh rly? lol

my b

[dark scroll]

it's called "engine boost"

in eureka server configs

[patent bronze]

In settings?

Ima check that out rq

[dark scroll]

eureka server configs

you can also change up how the engine work in all kinds of other ways too

and tons of other stuff with eureka

it's highly configurable

[patent bronze]

Do I have to go to the folder to do so(

?

[dark scroll]

the button that says "mods" in game or the main menu

search eureka in there and go to it's configs

then go over to "server"

[patent bronze]

Ooooh ok ok

[dark scroll]

they even have descriptions

of what the config does

[patent bronze]

Can I also set the speed of ship with no engines

[patent bronze]

I needed this thank you so much

Almost everyone came to my help today 😭

Thank you everyone

I was genuinely losing my mind but now I have my sanity back

[dull granite]

glad you got what you were looking for

[dark scroll]

yup that would be "maxCasualSpeed"

(or "basespeed" i forget exactly)

pretty sure it's the frist one

thinking harder about it now

[dull granite]

I will say tho, if you use Sails x Tournament, you can leave the helm angled so your ship turns without you actually needing to be on the helm

and you don't need to deal with cruise control or anything because the throttle is separate from the steering

[patent bronze]

Splendid!

Thank you from the bottom of my heart guys

[dark scroll]

uhmmm actually it might be one of these "linearBaseMass" "linearMaxSpeed"

[patent bronze]

Oh okay okay

[dark scroll]

you can lower this "stabilizationTorqueConstant" to 0 to remove the helms stabilization btw

[patent bronze]

If I remove it fully will the ship rotate without me doing anything?

[dark scroll]

and i think if you set this "linearStabilizeMaxAntiVelocity" to 0

i belioeve the shgip will be able to be effectivly thrusted forward by other source of propulsion

when the helm is on it and you arent driving

but

then would mean the ship could also drift around

[dark scroll]

yes it should just behave like a normal physics object i believe

that

or

[patent bronze]

Like in reality but this time fiction is better than reality

[dark scroll]

it's just for it's turning stabilization

but it makes me think it's for all of it

[patent bronze]

I changed the engine boost but uh

This happens

I didn’t set it high tho

When I’m at the helm its max 4-5 m/s

But it glitches in between 4 and 5

[patent bronze]

I see

[dark scroll]

what happens

oh

[patent bronze]

The ship starts bolting towards at unnatural speeds

[dark scroll]

but it's not that fast when piloting it?

[patent bronze]

Nope

[dark scroll]

only on cruise control?

[patent bronze]

When it’s on cruise and I’m in the ship it’s fine

But when I get far the ship skedadles away

[dark scroll]

what did you set things to

[patent bronze]

0.8 for engine boost

And base speed 10.10

10.0*

Found a fix

[dark scroll]

oh yeah?

[patent bronze]

It’s base speed

You need to set that

Not the others

Leave the others alone and it’s good

[dark scroll]

oh word

yeah i remebr the configs acting weird

not exactly what you exxpect

even with the explanations/descriptions

[patent bronze]

It’s all good now, my ship is sailing like a champ

[clear rampart]

This is here since 20 minutes

And it has 207 messages

[patent bronze]

New problem

[clear rampart]

What

[patent bronze]

The ship likes to take it to the right

[clear rampart]

You have sails right

So

[patent bronze]

It all started from how to change the engine speed

[clear rampart]

Okay

[patent bronze]

I don’t

[clear rampart]

But you have vs sails

[patent bronze]

Yessir

Wait

It has winds that push your ship??

[clear rampart]

It could be that the wind pushes without sails but i never tested that

[clear rampart]

That’s how sails work yes

[patent bronze]

No way that’s so cool

[clear rampart]

Ye

[patent bronze]

Problem turned into feature

[clear rampart]

Q really did a good job

[patent bronze]

I agree

He’s also really good at helping

Along with everyone else here

imahotdog and Q saved my life

[clear rampart]

Id help more often too but I kinda have a life and i feel like @dark scroll just camps at support and does a page refresh every five seconds

[patent bronze]

Don’t worry :))

[clear rampart]

Well

Your ship is turning right

[patent bronze]

Yesyes

[dark scroll]

you dont need to refresh the page

i dont think at least

i dont know from expereince

just assuming cause that makes sense to be

but idk

[patent bronze]

Time to test speed record from spawn to my current base

[clear rampart]

Try a eureka ship helm. Maybe it suppresses the rotation

[patent bronze]

Last time it took an hour of sailing

[dark scroll]

im just always checking the discord

but this was here for a while before i got to it

[clear rampart]

Are you on vacation or smt

Or are you sick

[patent bronze]

imahotdog told me I can change the rotation in settings so its gud

[dark scroll]

do i have to be?

[clear rampart]

I don’t really think a person with a job or school is online like all day

[clear rampart]

K

[dark scroll]

im NEET

on government disability

[clear rampart]

Neat by vaziki

[dark scroll]

wut?

[clear rampart]

You wouldn’t understand

Little one

[dark scroll]

im literally older than you

i think at least

[clear rampart]

Neet means that you go from bed to pc and back again

Right

[dark scroll]

accurate to my days yes

but it's specifically just means "not in education, employment or training"

[clear rampart]

I was here like back in 2021 but I didn’t have a discord account back then so I was with non confirmed email

[clear rampart]

Just say jobless vro

[dark scroll]

that doesnt dexcribe it

you can be jobless

but be in school

[clear rampart]

What else are you then

[dark scroll]

or training

opr both

or any combo

nothing

im none of all 3

[clear rampart]

If you have no job you are jobless

[dark scroll]

yeah

[clear rampart]

Job

Less

[dark scroll]

but im not just that

[clear rampart]

Missing a job

[dark scroll]

im also not in school

or in any training

[patent bronze]

Yeah I just summoned everyone

[dark scroll]

that's important to discern

[dull granite]

wind does nothing to ships unless there are sails @clear rampart

[dark scroll]

oh, word

[clear rampart]

Are you trying to get into a Shut in otaku isekai ?

[patent bronze]

Hm, then what may be turning my ship slightly?

[dark scroll]

it's complicated

[clear rampart]

Force

[clear rampart]

I have time. It’s only 0:26

Also my throat is dry asf since the air was so dry

[patent bronze]

Ah

Get well soon

[clear rampart]

I just need some water

If I would get out of bed

But it’s night so I don’t really want to

[patent bronze]

Still dry throat sucks arse

[dull granite]

there is a bug with water drag in vs

it causes ships to want to turn away from the direction they were assembled in

[patent bronze]

Go to sleep go to sleep

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-e-cheese-roblox-run-stan-ateez-mouse-run-gif-2919113001222212923

[dull granite]

it makes me very upset :(

[clear rampart]

Alright mom

[dull granite]

I’m hoping it will be fixed in the next major vs version

[patent bronze]

Hm I see

[patent bronze]

Noo don’t worry man it’s alright the fact that you guys accomplished what we have now so far is beyond my comprehension

[patent bronze]

Good good

[dark scroll]

that's wild

[hollow valve]

flap bearings and physic bearing combo. trust.

might need energy transmition to power bearings (or CC: tweaked)

[patent bronze]

Knew I’d have to add stabilizing fonts to my ship

Eventually

[dark scroll]

darkviperAU is ranting on his stream

🤣

[patent bronze]

I wish I knew who he was

I live under a rock

10 fold

[dark scroll]

a GTA streamer

[patent bronze]

Haven’t played GTA in a Good while

I miss Pavel

Finally, peace and quiet

Thank you everyone who helped me I’m finally (almost) complete

[patent bronze]

One question, how can I stop my planes from freezing mid air from chunks

[low spire]

fly slower?

larger render distance?

chunk loading performance mods?

basically just, don't hit unloaded chunks

[patent bronze]

Should i set chunks to 500

[patent bronze]

One question

How do you use vs tournament rope

[long pendant]

ive heard that they tent to crash a lot

[patent bronze]

Oh

[patent bronze]

Any idea why this doesn’t work

I followed a tutorial but it’s 4 years old and the sequenced gearshift doesn’t have a setting included in the video

Is it outdated

https://youtu.be/YPFy-OCe020?si=UhCNFndnb_F7yutk

At the drawbridge part

[dark scroll]

it doesn't have a functioning power source

[patent bronze]

The video said if I put a magma block and a fan it should work?

[dark scroll]

it's clearly not rotating

💁‍♂️

[patent bronze]

How could I fix it?

[low spire]

use a waterwheel

instead of a magma fan

[patent bronze]

Is there any other method without using water?

[low spire]

lava water wheel

[patent bronze]

I need it in this space

[dark scroll]

this method was removed in 0.5

[dark scroll]

I'm guessing you're making it survival friendly?

[patent bronze]

Not necessarily

But sure

[dark scroll]

...

then just use a creative motor?

💁‍♂️

🤷‍♂️

[patent bronze]

I tried but the bridge keeps coming back up

[dark scroll]

wdym?

[patent bronze]

Wait

[dark scroll]

you must just need help with your sequenced gearshift settings

also you'll want the bearing to be set to "place only when near initial angle"

[clear rampart]

This feature was removed years ago

Prob in 0.4

[patent bronze]

Oh

Wait ima try now

Do I gotta change something here?

[dark scroll]

lol yes

[patent bronze]

I ain’t good at ts

[dark scroll]

cmon i dont wanna tell you

you can figure it out

think

[patent bronze]

Uhh

[dark scroll]

why would it go up after a short "delay" with your currant settings?

[patent bronze]

Cuz I told it to reverse its action after the delay

[dark scroll]

so instead of that delay

what would you set it to instead?

for it to only active after "another pulse"

[patent bronze]

Await new redstone pulse?? 😭

[dark scroll]

there ya go

see not too hard

just takes a slower thought process to figure things out sometimes

[dark scroll]

👍

[patent bronze]

Riight my number one weakness 😅

Wait

One more question

So it lowers and stays there

To make it go back up

Do I need to put the reverse turn?

Wait

I’ll try something

It works

YES

Time to finish this thing once and for all

If the boat is an entity do motors still work on it?

[dark scroll]

ships aren't entities ☝️ 🤓

[low spire]

yes

and its not an entity

[dark scroll]

but yes mostly everything works on ships

[patent bronze]

oh goodie

[patent bronze]

The patience you guys have is baffling me

Kudos to you guys

[dark scroll]

some things have bugs but pretty much only niche small things

some mods

[patent bronze]

Gud gud

[low spire]

people calling them "physics entities" is actually a common misunderstanding

[patent bronze]

Oh?

Explain I need to absorb knowledge

(Please)

[low spire]

ok so basically

[dark scroll]

they are renders of real blocks

it's very cool how it works

[patent bronze]

(Agreed)

[low spire]

when you assemble, your blocks are copied to the "shipyard"
A far away, but still real, location.
Those blocks function as normal, but are sortof "projected" into your camera where the ship "should be" from the physics
Your interaction with those blocks get projected back to the shipyard
And theres no entity involved at any stage

the official name is "ship", which is also a little silly because its left over from when ships could only be boats but 🤷

[patent bronze]

🧐

[low spire]

the other confusing thing is, "physics entities" are a thing in the VS api. They're a way to tie an entity to a ships physics. However, they're only used by 2 addons.
Vmod for its thrusters (I think), and trackwork for its tracks (I think)

[toxic river]

I mean it could be an airship

[low spire]

is a "plane" a "ship"?

[toxic river]

meh

[dark scroll]

how it's "projecting" the blocks is rather neat it takes the entirety of the chunks the the ship occupies in the ship yard and applies "render transforms" upon the entire chunk

[toxic river]

what would you rather call it, a worldshell?

[dark scroll]

from my understanding at least

right?

[low spire]

I don't think it needs changing, its just kinda funny

[low spire]

ew

worldshells are lame, name wise

[patent bronze]

No it’s the dang titanic flying at you at 100 mp/h

[low spire]

how are they a "world", and what is "shell"-like about them

[patent bronze]

Damn that’s complicated but really smart

[dark scroll]

planes go much faster than 100mp/h

🤣

[low spire]

as for how collision with the ship works

like, the player standing on it

[dark scroll]

well

[patent bronze]

About 500-600

[low spire]

I genuinely have no idea

[patent bronze]

Maybe 600-700

[dark scroll]

dpending on the plane i guess

[low spire]

black magic

[toxic river]

It's an SAT collider

With a bunch of Minecraft specific stuff duct taped on

[low spire]

interesting

[dark scroll]

so does krunch handel eveything after the rendering? only stuff like collisons with world and ships?

or is it involved in the rendering too?

[toxic river]

Krunch only handles ship to ship and ship to world collision and constraints

[dark scroll]

ah ok

thats what i though

collisions

and contriants was slipping my mind

[low spire]

I assume player/entity collision is still in core though?

[toxic river]

correct entity collision is written in Kotlin in core and uses completely different algorithm

[dark scroll]

it's wild how many different things are working together for all this

[toxic river]

Krunch uses sdf based collision algorithm whereas entity collision uses SAT

[dark scroll]

huh

[toxic river]

Entity collision is only one way coupling also, entities can't push ships

[dark scroll]

fascinating

[dark scroll]

yeah

very sad

[low spire]

unless you cheat and do force applier shenanigans

[toxic river]

Yes but it's like a workaround, can't truly do it anyway because of the huge network delay

[dark scroll]

how does that happy ghast building thing work then?

[low spire]

it doesn't

[dark scroll]

hmmm?

[low spire]

it had... many issues

namely that the ghast kept colliding with the ship

and causing phantom forces

despite trying to stop it colliding with the ship

[dark scroll]

oh so it's more of a small proof of concept?

[low spire]

the original showcase I suspect you are thinking of

was from ryan

from aeronautics

[dark scroll]

well I talked to someone who did it recently

and wasnt there a git page for a project someone was working on for it

[low spire]

yeah

oh and as for how the ship following the entity works in that

it just gets teleported to the ghast every tick

[dark scroll]

yeaaaaahhhh

I had a feeling it worked like that

given how it looked

well im not even interested in it tbh

was just confused about the work around they used

[patent bronze]

Damn I was gone for a bit

🙏

[patent bronze]

Ok I got the door working

Is there any way I can hide this

[low spire]

copycat panels

[patent bronze]

Slight problem

The ramp overlaps with them

Time to engineer

[dull granite]

it is a portion of the minecraft world that is projected as a shell somewhere else

(I still think it’s a stupid name tho)

[low spire]

but unless your a yarn user, its a portion of a "level" not a world

I'm still pissed they renamed resource locations to identifiers

[dull granite]

we should call them level projections then

[low spire]

[low spire]

thats actually reasonable tbh

or just "projection" to keep it short

[dull granite]

true

I do like the term “physics object” tho

it could be:

Physics Object: anything in the game that has physics

Physics Projection: a projection of the level given physics

Physics Entity: an entity with physics applied to it

[patent bronze]

I’ve started yet another debate

Why does it stick to the

Wait

I keep forgetting that block

This one

It’s not even glued

[dark scroll]

you shouldn't even bother with chassis tbh

[patent bronze]

Oh?

[dark scroll]

just use all normal blocks and glue what you want to move

chassis are weird imo

they are good for survival

to save on glue i guess

[patent bronze]

So I can just break the chassis?

[dark scroll]

ye

[patent bronze]

Thank Gosh

[dark scroll]

then just place the blocks you want and glue em all together

back to the main first block on the bearing

[patent bronze]

Little problem

Now it doesn’t solidify In both positions

I gotta use the chassis sadly

Also, is there a block or mod that I can put multiple faces on

Wait

It’s the copycat box

[dark scroll]

ew

gross

no you dont

[patent bronze]

But I can’t break anything on the ramp when it’s retracted

😢

[dark scroll]

i dont see how chassis change that

did you set the bearing to the mode i said?

when it closed it will place and be normal blocks

when it's opened it will become a contraption

that cant be interacted with

do you want to be able to interact with it while it is opened and turned into a contraption?

[patent bronze]

Yes yes

Please

[patent bronze]

It kinda does

[patent bronze]

Yes I did

[dark scroll]

then you'll need the mod "Create: Interactive"

and place an "interact-me sticker" onto the blocks that are glue together

[patent bronze]

Oh dang it even works for trains too??

[dark scroll]

not sure why you need to interact with the block though

it's just a door

[patent bronze]

Cuz I’m picky

[dark scroll]

right?

[patent bronze]

Uh

Yes just a door

🙃

[dark scroll]

then if you dont need anything funtioning on it and it just opens and closes

i dont see a need for you interact with it while it's a contrpation

thus i dont see a need for it to be an interactive contraption

[patent bronze]

Tell that to my picky ahh

[dark scroll]

do you intend to drive vehichles onto the boat

[patent bronze]

Yes I would like to

I still don’t have a grip on cars tho

Still learning those

[dark scroll]

you will need interactive to be able to turn to door

into a birdge

[patent bronze]

Yeah

[dark scroll]

it wont have collisions with ships if it's not an interactive contraption

[patent bronze]

Uff

I forgot

I mean

It’s interactive when lowered

Sooo

But I’d still like for it to be interactiv eso I might have to use them chassis

Interactive*

I’ll somehow engineer myself out of this prgolem

Problem

[dark scroll]

bruh

[patent bronze]

No

As in

Air lemme rephrase myself

Wait

Trains can’t collide

Uh nvm

Forgot I said anything

Wait one more thing

If the boat is sailing and the car is inside

Can I turn it into a normal Minecraft structure inside the boat?

I’m guessing yes

Oh?

[dark scroll]

don't disassemble ships

[low spire]

yes but it will no longer move with your boat

so don't disassemble it

[patent bronze]

Okok

Got it

Perfectttt

I can finally launch this thing

Thank you guys yet again

🙏

[patent bronze]

Encountered another problem

The original ship is fine

I just wanted to test it on the water

But I can’t seem to uh

Move when I assemble it

And when I rejoin it looks like this

[dark scroll]

you shouldn't assemble full builds

at least not in the traditional way

and esspecially not large builds with the ureka helm

it's assembly sucks ass

esspecially for large ships

it's best to assemble a single block and build off from that

and you can place shchematic on that single blcok to assemble already built create schematics

it also works with the schematic cannon for survival friendly ship shcematic building

[patent bronze]

Oh aight aight

Thank you so much 🙏

[patent bronze]

Yeahh I saw

It’s fine tho

Ima post progress tomorrow

Goodnight y’all

Thank you for the help (again)

God bless

🫩

[dull granite]

Vlib assembly also works as a way to assemble large builds without it dying

[patent bronze]

Vlib?

[clear rampart]

Mod

[patent bronze]

I can’t find it on curse

[low spire]

the mod is called

"VLib"

[low spire]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/vlib/files/all?page=1&pageSize=20&version=1.20.1&gameVersionTypeId=1&showAlphaFiles=show

its only got alpha files, maybe thats why its not in the app

[patent bronze]

It works

Thank you :))

I tried putting shaders but they don’t work for some reason

[low spire]

shaders will only work if you have a shader mod installed

usually uh

embeddium and oculus if on forge

or sodium and iris if on fabric

[patent bronze]

Embeddium imterferes with my current mods so oculus it is

[low spire]

nono

you need both

why does embeddium interfere?

[patent bronze]

Shiet

Uh

Lemme send the error message

Wait no not embeddium

Pardon

It was another

Phew

um

[low spire]

oh

simple clouds hates shaders

[patent bronze]

ah

do i have to remove clouds

;n;

[low spire]

I've seen people occasionally get it working with embeddium,

but I haven't been able to figure out how

[patent bronze]

what should i do?

[patent bronze]

i see

[low spire]

pick between simple clouds and shaders, or ask someone thats gotten them to work together

[patent bronze]

the problem is i don't know anyone ;o;;

;o;

damn errors

[clear rampart]

You can just disable it in the debug settings of the mod while keeping the rain don’t go trough ships mechanic

[patent bronze]

i did but now it says that error

;u;

[patent bronze]

i decided to frick the shaders, what does this mean?

[low spire]

restart again

tournament just breaks sometimes

[patent bronze]

aight

what mod can you install for ropes on ships?

like here

https://youtu.be/JNljnRcu_hE?si=0mPGnJCAUcvSRP7R

[low spire]

ropes?

what kind of ropes

[patent bronze]

The ones that you attach to the mast of the ship

[low spire]

create 0.5.1 or 6.0.0+

(my answer is different depending)

[patent bronze]

Hm

Ok

The n you

Thank

[low spire]

huh?

[patent bronze]

I just found the ropes

I had them here all along 😭

[low spire]

don't use tournament ones

they're broken

[patent bronze]

Ah dammit

[low spire]

I actaulyl don't remember how they're broken

I just remember they are

I think they don't render

and don't save on world reload or something

[patent bronze]

Yeah I remember being told that

[low spire]

if you're on create 0.5.1

you can add "VStuff", which right now adds... literally just a rope lol

or you can use VMod, if you have that

it has a physics rope you can make with the toolgun, that has "sag" and rope physics and allat

if your on create 6, vmod is probably the only option

[patent bronze]

YES

That one

[clear rampart]

@patent bronze at this point just rename this into „Marins Help Center“

[patent bronze]

You read my mind

[low spire]

lmaoo

[patent bronze]

How do I make engines faster? (Marin’s help center 😭)

😅

[low spire]

less confusing than asking for help in #minecraft tbf, having to weave around other conversations

[patent bronze]

Agreed

and the atrocity that is me at modding Minecraft needs this help badly as long as you guys are fine with it 😢

[low spire]

🤷 I'm cool with helping you out lol

you tend to have more interesting questions than the rest of this discord usually anyway

[patent bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-tired-sleep-deprived-exhausted-sleep-deprivation-gif-3654455578281021969

[low spire]

[patent bronze]

Probably cuz my world looks like a damn zoo

Mixed with an airport and a shipyard

I dont have what to do with my life as you see

[clear rampart]

I always use super flat for building shit

Plen

But I have like at least 60 in my vs instance

[patent bronze]

ooooo

nice plen

[patent bronze]

Dayum

that's a lot

what can i say tho

[patent bronze]

One Wheaton

Question*

How do I attach ropes with the tool gun

[dark scroll]

click one thing

and then the other

is it not working for you?

[patent bronze]

So I put the rope setting

Wait I’ll show you

I’m kinda clueless

[dark scroll]

very odd

your on latest vmod right?

1.7.1?

[patent bronze]

Nope

The thing is I can’t

[dark scroll]

boy am i ever getting things confused

[patent bronze]

I can’t switch the mod to 1.7.1 cuz of my mods

[dark scroll]

which ones?

[patent bronze]

Uhh

[dark scroll]

what version are you on?

[patent bronze]

1.20.1

[dark scroll]

of vmod

[patent bronze]

Yessir

1.20.1

[dark scroll]

what version of Vmod are you on?

[patent bronze]

1.20.1-1.6.0

[dark scroll]

ah, word

yeah that's a decent bit out of date

what's holding you back

[patent bronze]

I think it’s clockwork or warium?

I don’t remember agh man

[dark scroll]

no

it's not

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-owen-grady-i-promise-you-that-promise-i-promise-gif-26221906

[patent bronze]

I wonder what it is then

[patent bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/whoa-raptor-stop-dinosaur-easy-gif-20199580

[dark scroll]

what even is the issue?

[patent bronze]

Some mods just won’t start if I don’t have a specific version of create

[dark scroll]

wel yeah duh

but i mean with Vmod

[patent bronze]

I can’t plac eropes

Place ropes*

[dark scroll]

also duh

but i mean with specifically updating Vmod

💁‍♂️

you update it and it crashes?

or says something faild to load?

or something else?

[patent bronze]

Oh!

Nope no crashes

Just thst the ropes don’t seem to appear

That

[dark scroll]

if you update it?

[patent bronze]

Is it ok if I update you tomorrow? My mom kinda caught me blunderin when I was supposed to be in bed

😭🙏

I apologize

[dark scroll]

oh, word

lol

ye sure np

[patent bronze]

Thank you 🫩

I’ll make sure to test tomorrow tho

Good night

Thank you so much for the help

[patent bronze]

Okay I tried again with the newest version

Apparently the newest version for me is 1.20.1-1.6.0

[dark scroll]

latest is 1.7.1

from modrinth

[patent bronze]

ouhhh

lemme justtt

my mc wont start

damit

[patent bronze]

I renewed my Java but I still can’t get it to boot up

Tried repairing the profile too but nothing

I’ll try again later

[patent bronze]

I still can’t start my mod pack

Rip

As a matter of fact none of my mod packs will start

Do I have to reinstall forge

[dark scroll]

wdym by this?

[patent bronze]

I had an older version of Java installed

But the new one doesn’t seem to fix anything

[dark scroll]

your supposed to use java 17 for 1.20.1 modpacks never just randomly change the version of java you have

[patent bronze]

Right

But even with Java 17 it wouldn’t start

Wait

Could I have a link to java 17

[dark scroll]

choose if from in your curseforge settings

[patent bronze]

Okok

[patent bronze]

Took a big hiatus

I still haven’t figured out how to change back to Java 17

LOL

Do I press choose or reset

[low spire]

uhh

pretty sure CF doesn't let you use anything other than JVM 17 for 1.20.1

[patent bronze]

Strange cuz I can’t start Minecraft

[patent bronze]

Fixed the problem

Also

How can I check logs on curseforge

I got a little bit of a problem with a new mod pack

[low spire]

open pack folder -> logs folder -> latest.log

[patent bronze]

alright

Thank you

[low spire]

canary and c2me are conflicting

[patent bronze]

Alright

Thank you

I was starting to tweak

https://tenor.com/view/freak-tweak-tweaker-tweaking-freak-out-gif-16108345590627731463

found a new problem

[dry chasm]

How to get VS running with radium

By default, Radium (also known as Canary) crashes with VS on world load. Luckily, a fix exists.

Simply add mixin.ai.poi=false to lithium.properties in the config folder.

If you are using canary, it will be canary.properties. However, Radium uses lithium.properties

[sour compass]

@patent bronze

[patent bronze]

yes?

[patent bronze]

oh

[patent bronze]

is my pc posessed

[sour compass]

Can you send the crash report found in the crash-reports folder

it should be named something like crash-report-[date and time of crash]

[patent bronze]

wait

found the error

T’was embeddium

[sour compass]

wdym

embeddium shouldn't cause crashes

[patent bronze]

apparently it was

but it was for a diff mod

another problem

ah man

[sour compass]

it makes the game crash?

[patent bronze]

Yeah

[patent bronze]

I wonder what’s going on

[patent bronze]

😭

[patent bronze]

Anybody can help me with the issue 😔

[patent bronze]

ok i have one last issue

it says here

Error loading class: net/caffeinemc/mods/sodium/api/memory/Memory Intristics

but i dont got sodium installed

[main/WARN]:Reference map 'vlib-forge-refmap.json' for vlib.mixins.json could not be read. If this is a development environment you can ignore this message

now it says this

i'm gonna go crazy

[patent bronze]

So uh

Does anyone have an idea on what that means 😢

I tried tinkering around with the Mods but it’s still stubborn

[low spire]

not important

[patent bronze]

so i should just try to start mc ?

[patent bronze]

Or?

[low spire]

🤷

idk its just not related to ur problem

[patent bronze]

Huh

My crash log is gibberish

[patent bronze]

ok this one isnt

[patent bronze]

😃

[patent bronze]

zzzz

[sour compass]

wassup?

[patent bronze]

Here

Sorry for not being on I was asleep lolz

[patent bronze]

Train disappears when I assemble it

The first bogey is the train

Idk what’s going on

I didn’t have this problem before I built the interior

What’s going on

P l z h e l p

[long pendant]

interactive?

[patent bronze]

What does that mean

[patent bronze]

?

[patent bronze]

What can I do to fix this

[echo sage]

Do you have create: interactive installed?

[patent bronze]

Nope

I’ll install that rq

[patent bronze]

What mod is downgrade?

I can’t find it in the search bar

Found it

Now my game won’t start

[long pendant]

i highly don't recommend that unless you actually want its stuff

[patent bronze]

Oh

Then what could be wrong with my train 😔

[echo sage]

Prob entity culling from a performance mod

[patent bronze]

Oh

I think I know which one

Ok so I removed entity culling

But my train still disappears

Does leaf culling do anything

[low spire]

Doubt it

[patent bronze]

This is a mystery

Cuz I have another train that isn’t invisible

[patent bronze]

What’s the name of the mod with unlimited track customization ?

[echo sage]

Steam and rails?

[patent bronze]

The one where I can loop the track

[echo sage]

Are you talking about the one where they removed the limitations of the tracks? I’m not sure which one that is

[patent bronze]

That one

[echo sage]

I don’t remember the name

[patent bronze]

Uff

Well that’s the least of my problems now cuz I’m still trying to figure out why my train is invisible and my other isn’t

😔

[echo sage]

Try disassembling and reassembling

[patent bronze]

Tried 100 times

[low spire]

It’s something on your train

[patent bronze]

Strangely it wasn’t invisible when the train was empty

[low spire]

That’s breaking

[patent bronze]

Are there any specific blocks that do that?

[low spire]

No idea

[patent bronze]

It’s my time to become a bug tester

[patent bronze]

It’s my time to shine again

I heard create aeronautics is here

[patent bronze]

I’m back with yet

Another problem

Cheers

😭

[low spire]

Update forge to 47.4.10. Update eureka to latest. Use tournament from the pinned message in #tournament

[patent bronze]

Alright

Thank you very much

[patent bronze]

Does anybody know how to fix this mess? I glitched very far into the world and now I can’t enter it without it crashing

It’s unplayable

I tried going on survival or doing /kill

But it doesn’t work

It doesn’t let me

[low spire]

Have you tried deleting your player data

Also send the full crash report

[patent bronze]

Yes, but I will try again just to make sure

Player data won’t reset

I deleted it but I’m still there

I’ll send the crash report soon

[low spire]

how did you delete it?

[patent bronze]

From the world file

[low spire]

what did you delete though

[patent bronze]

“Playerdata”

that the correct one, right?

[low spire]

the whole folder?

[patent bronze]

Yes

[low spire]

hmm

usualyl I just delete

an individual file

[patent bronze]

The DAT file right?

[low spire]

yeah

[patent bronze]

Lemme try that rq

[low spire]

also just send a full latest.log

[patent bronze]

Alright, I’ll send it after I try this

here

[low spire]

ah

aquifer crash

hm actually this gives me a good opportunity to try and fix this bug

give me a little bit I'll see if I can make a VS jar that doesn't have this issue

wait

@patent bronze are/were you in the nether? 🤔

[patent bronze]

Nope