Create 6 compatibility on its way!

[old narwhal]

yes

^

[thick dune]

thank

[brisk remnant]

i think vs additons does something with that instead of base vs, m not too sure

[old narwhal]

new nightlies with a few extra PRs merged

known issues:

• Nozzle doesn't push entities on ships
• Frogport nametag is weird
• Crashes on dedicated server on fabric

[hallow loom]

Something in my pack crashes with this Fabric version but not the previous one. I'll do a binary test to try and narrow it down

[old narwhal]

please do let us know what you find

don't want to find out we accidentally broke some other compat

[hallow loom]

I know that the last version would crash when I had Async Particles enabled,

It's still disabled, so shouldn't be that

[hallow loom]

Uhhhh, it seems to be crashing with Create enabled! 😢

[old narwhal]

what create are you using?

[hallow loom]

6.0.7 Fabric

[old narwhal]

send the crash report?

[hallow loom]

sorry, wrong one. one sec

Might have been the wrong one. Fresh upload just in case https://mclo.gs/loLLBFN

[old narwhal]

nah that looks legit

thanks man, we might've missed that before release which would've been quite bad

[old narwhal]

@hallow loom Should be fixed:

[hallow loom]

Seems to work with everything that worked previously. Thanks! 🙂

[old narwhal]

hopefully the last nightly:

[thick glen]

0.01 mb

vs createe six

[novel heron]

Boom!

[unkempt jacinth]

did you add any addons?

[slate pivot]

could you remove the other addons and figure out if the issue persists?

[novel heron]

uh Create addons?

or vs addons

[slate pivot]

remove all other addons besides create and vs, clone the world, and see if the issue persists

[novel heron]

still have this issue

(in a new created world)

[slate pivot]

there's still a bunch of addons in there though

[novel heron]

colorwheel?

🙁

forgot

[slate pivot]

or you sent the wrong log

i'll cc @old narwhal but there's not much i can see in that log

[novel heron]

maybe the new version of CC:T caused this? I just updated CC and VS

[unkempt jacinth]

try a fresh world

[slate pivot]

they mentioned they did

but there's enough addons that i can't pin down the issue

[unkempt jacinth]

oh

[unkempt jacinth]

can you send the entire latest.log

[novel heron]

wait

I think colorwheel caused this

i disabled it and no more crash

[unkempt jacinth]

curious

i might test it later then

[slate pivot]

what a weird error for that

[novel heron]

uh

still have crash when i enter a world already have a ship

[unkempt jacinth]

probably two seperate errors in this case then

[unkempt jacinth]

can you try making a ship?

your issue might be that you removed an addon without properly removing its attachments from ships

[novel heron]

made a new ship in a new world, no crash now
colorwheel disabled

[slate pivot]

is there any possibility that you could make a modpack with just colorwheel and vs, trigger the crash, then post an issue about it?

[novel heron]

nonono not colorwheel caused this

im an idiot

create addon caused this, they don't support 6.0.7

[slate pivot]

[novel heron]

New issue: crashed when try to hang on a Chain Conveyor
not on a ship

WHY IT HAPPENED AGAIN!!!! AHHHHHHHHH

[rustic crag]

Yup, confirmed the crash. will be fixed.

[hallow loom]

Getting the same crash in Fabric when tested with latest nightly

Also with the previous one. No riding chain conveyors until it's fixed I guess lol

[tired nexus]

is there any way to make cbc work

[hallow loom]

Are you using the latest nightlies for CBC from their Discord?

[tired nexus]

no

[hallow loom]

Best to check for updates there then, or wait for the next update as with other Create add-ons

[rustic crag]

CBC 5.9 is not compatible with Create 6.0.7

[tired nexus]

damn you 67

why aren't these loading?

do i need architectury?

[rustic crag]

Er, no?

How did this happen?

[tired nexus]

i don't know

[rustic crag]

Does it render after F3+A?

[tired nexus]

this is my modlist

[tired nexus]

haven't tried it yet

but i did relaunch the game so

nope

f3+a didnt do anything

everything works fine

it's just that some parts dont render

[rustic crag]

Hmm

Could you try removing the connected addon?

[tired nexus]

ok

[tired nexus]

still didn't help

[rustic crag]

Hmmm

[tired nexus]

could embeddium help?

[rustic crag]

Honestly I have no clue

[tired nexus]

ill try it

wait i need it

yes

it's in the faq

nope

nothing can fix it

[past mango]

Try some flywheel commands

A friend of mine had something similar and fixed it with some flywheel command, idk which one

[tired nexus]

THANK YOU

god bless you

for anyone who may have this problem in the future, use this command:

/flywheel backend flywheel:indirect

actually flywheel:off is even better

[old narwhal]

That’s the default

Why was your flywheel not that idk

[novel heron]

time to release b11

[old narwhal]

Nuh uh

We found a few more crashes

Gonna absolutely speedrun patching these

[novel heron]

[old narwhal]

Once I’m at my pc anyway

[tired nexus]

huh

i dont know

[thick glen]

whuere the latest nightly?

[thick glen]

this?

[old narwhal]

yes

[old narwhal]

new nightly incoming

[thick glen]

For which version of create 6?

[old narwhal]

6.0.7

[slate pivot]

6.0.7

[thick glen]

6.0.7

[hollow crescent]

__**william_skyfurs**#0__ has been warned

Reason:

Strike 1

[thick glen]

😭

even if its working, we need to wait all create and vs addon updated T-T

[old narwhal]

most create addons already support 6.0.7

[thick glen]

eh i thought we able to crouch without falling of edge in this nightly ...

[pearl chasm]

just updated my pack to create 6.0.7

[subtle hatch]

Welcome to []

[old narwhal]

thats a 2.5 feature

[pearl chasm]

ok i bricked my modpack 🔥

[old narwhal]

I don't think thats VS's fault

[pearl chasm]

yea its create updates fault

[thick glen]

what does these mean then? /genq

[pearl chasm]

disable all of those

[old narwhal]

update them?

[thick glen]

its all updated ...

[pearl chasm]

then delete all mods

[thick glen]

disbaling it instead...

[pearl chasm]

ig that works too

[thick glen]

so this statement is mostly not true?

[pearl chasm]

type shi

ok its working

mayb

island decided not to attach

[slate pivot]

grass doesn't assemble with the helm

[pearl chasm]

🥀

[slate pivot]

i mean think abt it

what would happen if grass could assemble and you tried to assemble a ship on the ground

[pearl chasm]

idk some size limit or shit

[tribal vigil]

we don't need grass block ships

[slate pivot]

the size limit is 32k blocks

people have accidentally assembled islands and their bases

[tribal vigil]

you can make with wood and replacew with dirt if you really want to after assembly

[pearl chasm]

leaning tower

ts

peak update

[novel heron]

create released 6.0.8

[old narwhal]

luckily it seems to have not broken anything

lets freaking go

[pearl chasm]

damn

[novel heron]

oh my god!

[cedar plinth]

awesome sauce

[old narwhal]

So I think it goes without saying

but these nightlies are irrelevant now

get the release on modrinth/curseforge

[thick glen]

Eh, why not 2.3 feature or 2.4?

[slate pivot]

specific api stuff iirc?

idek

but it won't be in 2.3

[thick glen]

Does chaange made in api is on the x instead of y in x.y.z in semantic versioning?

[old narwhal]

VS doesn't really follow semantic versioning

it follows sentimental versioning

(aka we make number bigger depending on how good we've done)

[thick glen]

guh XD

[woven surge]

man, just 2.5 stars?

[thick glen]

hmmm so far so good, no crashes
waiting for stable release of 2.3 and then the addons

[compact cedar]

Will there be create 6.0.0-6.0.6 compat? or will I have to wait for other mods to update to 6.0.7+

[unkempt jacinth]

you can use old builds

[compact cedar]

Ok, Ill do that! I do suppose they are incompatible with addons like starlance right?

[unkempt jacinth]

starlance actually works but interactive and clockwork dont yet

[compact cedar]

Ok, thanks!

[old narwhal]

Actually it doesn’t work with 6.0.6

[unkempt jacinth]

this is the list rn i think?

[old narwhal]

It’s set in the meta data to use 6.0.7+

[unkempt jacinth]

really? the pr that got merged was on it for sure

oh

[old narwhal]

But it technically will work with 6.0.6 if you remove that metadata

[unkempt jacinth]

i wish forge had a fabric loaders dependency override thing

[old narwhal]

Yeah

Neo added one in 1.21 at least

[unkempt jacinth]

wonderful

ok this isnt the besstt but w/e

[olive belfry]

There's a way to bypass that check?-

[unkempt jacinth]

on fabric easily, on forge you have to open the jar up and edit it rn

[olive belfry]

Aw dangit
I tried extracting it and then putting it back together as a .zip then converting back to .jar but I'm not sure that's how it should go-

[old narwhal]

thats fine

make it a .zip

remove the valkyrien skies and create dependency from the meta-inf/mods.toml

make it back to a .jar

[olive belfry]

Alllright

Aw man

[old narwhal]

what

are you doing

[olive belfry]

Not sure
Extracting it, as it says
However I have no idea what that means

[old narwhal]

what

no

don't extract it

you rename the .jar file a .zip file

windows will say "are you sure" you hit yes

then you go inside the .zip, copy the meta-inf/mods.toml outside teh zip file

[olive belfry]

Ooh that makes more sense

[old narwhal]

change its inside

copy it back into the zip meta-inf folder

windows will say "you want to replace?" you say yes

you rename the .zip back to a .jar

windows says "are you sure"

you say yes

boom

[olive belfry]

Agh, of course Windows is annoying and just removes the .zip from the file name preventing me from editing it back

[old narwhal]

then you might've extracted it to a folder

instead of editing it in place

[olive belfry]

I renamed it to .zip and it just went away-

[floral island]

@old narwhal

[old narwhal]

what create are you using

6.0.7 or 6.0.8

[cedar plinth]

6

[floral island]

6.0.8

[old narwhal]

try 6.0.7

just to see

[olive belfry]

Oh I didn't know there was a 6.0.8

Dang

[floral island]

doesnt work too

[old narwhal]

what

I've literally been using a tweaked controller

the last week or so on create 6.0.6, 6.0.7, 6.0.8 to power links on a ship

[floral island]

are u using create 6 ?

[old narwhal]

yes

[floral island]

ok wierd

propulsion problem ?

[old narwhal]

maybe?

I didn't have propulsion installed

[floral island]

embedium ?

[old narwhal]

I had embeddium

[floral island]

hmmmm

[unkempt jacinth]

maybe tweaked controllers work differently?

[old narwhal]

sorry meant a linked controller

haven't been using tweaked

[unkempt jacinth]

oh

[floral island]

ok its not prop

[unkempt jacinth]

yeah that too maybe those work differently

[floral island]

nice airship

what do u use for lift ?

[old narwhal]

reduced gravity and tournament thrusters controlled by a CC PID

[floral island]

LMAO

wait

i found it

i think

[old narwhal]

?

[olive belfry]

It did not like what I did anyway- Even though I did as mentioned, huh

[floral island]

its these two mod

LMAO

FU*ING DYNAMIC LIGHT

wait

[unkempt jacinth]

huh??

[old narwhal]

HOW??

[floral island]

HOW

[old narwhal]

also wait

oculus has dynamic lights

[floral island]

its so random

oh wait no

its sodium option api

[old narwhal]

how

is it culling block entites

oml

[floral island]

OH

[old narwhal]

I bet its stopping the links on the ship from ticking

[unkempt jacinth]

it shouldnt touch that??

[floral island]

make sense

[floral island]

its a perf mod

[unkempt jacinth]

maybe culls render but not tick

[floral island]

it can touch ANYTHING

[unkempt jacinth]

espc if the ticks on the server thread???

[old narwhal]

on singleplayer

its all connected

it might not be telling the server-side bit that the client needs those BEs

[floral island]

new incompat found

[unkempt jacinth]

oh wait

nvm

it would've shown

[floral island]

you know it remind me of the incompat with v-side music mod, cbc and vs

when i have v-side music mod installed, the mount cannon doesnt shot the good direction on vs ship

i found this very funny

for somes reason

[thick glen]

VS addons compatible with VSxCreate6
Vmod ✅
Starlance ✅
Clockwork
Interactive
Tournament ✅
Propulsion ✅
Sails ✅
Eureka ✅
Trackwork
Drive by WIre
VStuff
VS Hyperdrive ✅
Valkyrien War and Peace ❌

VS 2.5 existed ????

[rough ibex]

[crisp stream]

scam likely

[slate pivot]

Yes

A few addons have 2.5 versions

[thick glen]

vs2.5 create 6 friendly?

[slate pivot]

Uhh

Partially

[rustic crag]

Notice: propulsion can't be launched server-side now. Will be fixed shortly.

[sage valley]

VS 2.5 is not stable enough for a proper release, but the guy who made Simple VS just built it from the github himself

[thick glen]

Whoa

[sage valley]

(you don't want to play VS 2.5, trust me)

[thick glen]

Why 2.5 exist when 2.3 is still in beta?

Vs is open source?

[unkempt jacinth]

partly yeah

[slate pivot]

for all intents and purposes of the general population, yes

[sage valley]

VS is in beta. 2.3 and 2.5 are just different beta versions of VS.

the betas within 2.3 are mostly just bugfixes, while the actual version number changing means there are new features / mechanics / API things

[smoky wraith]

seemingly it does not 😭 create throws a fit when I try it

it taunts me

[smoky wraith]

turns out I just had to update it at that point

and now I just have to rip apart my modpack to see why this mod doesn't let me load worlds 😭

[glacial mountain]

what's wrong with it

[pearl chasm]

how long till create clockwork gets an update ?

[hollow crescent]

__**It looks like you're trying to download Clockwork!**__

You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.

Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin for Forge, or Fabric Language Kotlin, both of which can be found on both CurseForge and Modrinth, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can be found on Modrinth. It also requires the latest version of the Create mod. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.

Also note that Clockwork is currently available for Minecraft 1.18.2, 1.19.2 and 1.20.1, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.

[pearl chasm]

far away or close ?

[sage valley]

it has a lot of bugs

[cedar plinth]

no eta

[pearl chasm]

ok but like super far or was it being worked on along with valkyrien update at all

[cedar plinth]

uuh

it wasn't being updated while Valkyrien was

to create 6 at least

[pearl chasm]

alr then

[thick glen]

Why not upload Vs for create 6.0.6 ?

[cedar plinth]

#small-announcements

[thick glen]

Sed

[cedar plinth]

wdym sed

there is an 6.0.6

[slate pivot]

because it would be confusing

[old narwhal]

Test these VS jars for us thanks 🥺

These are gonna be beta.12, fixing some bugs from beta.11
But I really don't want to do a beta.13, so the more bugs yall can find now the better.

Forge will work on 6.0.6 or 6.0.7, fabric is 6.0.7+ (fabric 6.0.6 doesn't exist).

[thick glen]

So this beta is VSx C6.6-6.8?

[old narwhal]

yuup

through the power of mixin configs

and reflection

and general bullshittery

[thick glen]

:3 cool

[novel heron]

When a creature dies on the ship due to the crushing wheel, no white smoke particles or red entities are generated.

scaffolding doesn't have a hitbox

baby don't look at me

im sad 🙁

weird lag when a big ship slip on blocks

[novel heron]

@old narwhal

falling particle spawn on my head

jump off the seat will turn to another direction

roll
Create factory logistics

[rustic crag]

Wow you're testing it very thoroughly

[woven surge]

I think scaffolding never had a hitbox actually

[rustic crag]

Spinny packages were found earlier but I couldn't fix it, ergod

[novel heron]

that's make no sense

player can stand on it, ship can't

finally cause this

[woven surge]

Well to ships it didn't have a hitbox

Which is extra funny cause rs links have a solid one blovk hitbox unless VS Addition is installed

[rustic crag]

Probably scaffoldings don't have conventional collision shape, because players should be able to pass thru while using them

This is kind of a headache because it might cause tall grass or flowers to collide if I include the scaffolding collision

@novel heron does it happen to vanilla scaffoldings too?

[novel heron]

vanilla scaffoldings can't float

[rustic crag]

Hmm. Might be able to test it by flipping the ship

[novel heron]

another bug

wait

mirror missing

[rustic crag]

Yeah, seems to be that

[novel heron]

track degrees problem

[rustic crag]

Yeah, tracks and trains are all broken. Fix isn't included yet

[rustic crag]

Every aspect of the train is broken and next nightly will include those

[novel heron]

ook

No interact with turntable

Item Drain doesn't accept items thrown on it

[thick glen]

Train on a ship??

[novel heron]

Can't open a toolbox on a ship by using the hotkey

[thick glen]

Fireee

[novel heron]

[hallow loom]

Doesn't launch at all in Fabric for me (Exit code 1)

[cedar plinth]

exit code one tells nothing

[hallow loom]

I'm aware of that. No other mods enabled other than Fabric API

[cedar plinth]

yeah but like you could give the logs rather than just saying code 1

[hallow loom]

Just uploaded them - https://mclo.gs/3FCHskU

Just noticed there's a Fabric 18 version. Updated to that and tested just in case - same result - https://mclo.gs/SAz2w7I

[old narwhal]

I compiled from your branch

So it should have all the train fixes that were there last night, although I think you’ve done a few more since then

[old narwhal]

Interesting, wonder why this didn’t happen for me

[novel heron]

So i can report train's bug now?

[old narwhal]

No

Since bunting has fixed trains more since those jars

I’ll send an updated one in an hour or so

[novel heron]

oh

[novel heron]

This is a devastating bug and I think it might be caused by friction. Please fix it asap

[old narwhal]

Your other bugs are good tho.

• entity death affects are low priority, probably won’t be fixed
• Scaffolding probably won’t be fixed, along with vanilla scaffolding
• blazes looking at you I’ll try to fix, if it’s easy enough
• weird lag is just normal VS behaviour I think, will probably get optimised / fixed in actual 2.5
• falling particles spawning at your head is goofy, I’ll take a Quick look at fixing it
• the seat issue is interesting, since I don’t think we’ve merged tomato’s entity dragging that broke look angle.
• mirror missing is low priority, I’ll look at fixing it if it’s easy
• turntable is low priority, I’ll look at fixing it if it’s easy
• item drain is higher priority, although I assume belts and such can still feed it.
• toolbox is mid priority, I’ll fix it if it’s easy ish

And fabric crashing will need to be fixed

[old narwhal]

New nightly jars.

• Blazes should be fixed
• Trains should be fixed
• Hose pulley should be fixed
• Fabric should be fixed

[hallow loom]

Can confirm it now loads in Fabric for me

[rustic crag]

blaze burners are going to be fixed again

[stuck berry]

Why would someone play VS without add-ons, like u can only make ships

Or are there new features?

[neon plinth]

Testing with specific add-ons or just using the included tools

[slate sinew]

Considering how busy you must be right now, I’m guessing you might curse at the question I’m about to ask but I truly appreciate your effort and hard work. So, is there a version around here that works with the Trackwork addon and is compatible with Create 6.0.6?

[unkempt jacinth]

nope not yet

[cedar plinth]

the people who work on this don't work on trackwork

[slate sinew]

thanks

[sage valley]

the look angle thing on mounting/dismounting a seat has been a thing for years

it happens with both the Eureka and Sails helms as well

[old narwhal]

New nightlies:

[thick glen]

Vallyrien tomorrow

[novel heron]

need 2.4

🙁

[rich fiber]

Still not playing nice with TFC

[slate pivot]

no one has fixed it again, no

if you care a lot abt tfc, go for it

[rich fiber]

I wish, I have not learned that far yet lol. But some day soon I hope to be able to work with it.

[unkempt jacinth]

check if it works in 2.5/2.4

[rich fiber]

Pardon my ignorance here but are you saying there are other .jars I should try? What do you mean?

[unkempt jacinth]

idk if the jars are prebuilt but try the unreleased 2.4 stuff as compared to the released 2.3 version

[rustic crag]

New nightlies.

• seat mount/dismount direction is fixed.
• deployers can be selected between placing things on ship or world.

[thick glen]

nightlies!

[woven surge]

night lies

[neon plinth]

Does the deployer thing exist on the public version?

[rustic crag]

Probably not.

[neon plinth]

Okay

[rustic crag]

It would be included in next update prob

[hollow pendant]

is there an interactive nightly currently? I thought I saw something about one

[rustic crag]

Not yet

[novel heron]

GT Skies

[olive belfry]

Getting quite an odd error when trying to boot this up

Create fails to load

[old narwhal]

developer environment?

or a dedicated server?

[olive belfry]

Dedicated server yeah

[old narwhal]

hm

try this

[olive belfry]

How incredible
This has functioned

[olive belfry]

Oh yes thank you very much
Sorry about that, don't know why it didn't cross my mind before

I was too shocked by the dark magic taking place

[gentle verge]

me and my friends have been attempting to use the version posted in small announcements on our dedicated kinetic server with 16 gb of ram, however ever since we added it the server crashes every few hours.

the vs mods we are using are eureka and propulsion and our create version is 6.06

not sure if this is the correct spot to post, so correct me if i am wrong.

[unkempt jacinth]

send the logs?

[old narwhal]

Use the jars slightly above your message in this thread

Not the small announcement ones

[old narwhal]

Wdym? You found a bug, I fixed the bug, everything is good now

[olive belfry]

Imean saying thanks is good too-

[old narwhal]

Maybe I’m misunderstanding, sorry. I just saw you apologising for finding a bug and got confused 😅

[olive belfry]

Oh yeah I was just saying thanks-

Because I didn't

[old narwhal]

But you did find a bug…

[olive belfry]

And you fixed it so,, thanks

[old narwhal]

Thanks for finding it

It didn’t show up on our automated server tests which is annoying…

[olive belfry]

Argh

[olive belfry]

I think there's also another bug where doing /reload will fail, and then crash the game

[old narwhal]

thats supplementaries fault

[olive belfry]

Dangitt

How so?

[old narwhal]

it makes a (fake) dimension in the wrong tick phase

and VS doesn't like that

[olive belfry]

Ack

[old narwhal]

and the dev really doesn't want to fix it

[olive belfry]

What the heck

[unkempt jacinth]

how do they manage to do the least and still have to 'vibe' check other mods 💀

[cedar plinth]

why the hell is the vibe checker a thing

[olive belfry]

Well this is seriously annoying-

And I though Supplementaries was cool

[unkempt jacinth]

it honestly does a whole lotta nothing 😭

[olive belfry]

It's just, the most vanilla mod there is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTN_DWP5d3o

They posted this last week

Really not bad

[olive belfry]

I'd be happy for them if they didn't do this one thing

W h y ?

Is Valkyrien Skies not "Vanilla" enough or something-

[old narwhal]

the dev sees the valkyrien skies limitation as unnecessary

valkyrien skies sees changing the dimension timing as not that hard

[olive belfry]

evil

[cedar plinth]

evil?

[olive belfry]

If only there was a way to patch this

[olive belfry]

At least it only happens on /reload, and not every time

[hallow loom]

I haven't tried running it on a server yet but I have Supplementaries in my VS/Sails/Pirates based Fabric modpack along with the Cannon Compat fixt and I'm not aware if it causing issues.
That particular pack doesn't have Create though, so... 🤷‍♂️

[old narwhal]

have you run /reload though

because thats what triggers the crash

[hallow loom]

hmm, I might have put that down to problems in my datapack if it did. I'll keep an eye out in future.

[olive belfry]

#announcements message

So this thread is now not so relevant if it got "merged"?

[old narwhal]

it got released yes

[olive belfry]

Neat! That's incredible news

Thanks for your work kind sir

[old narwhal]

Hopefully, if everything goes to plan, no more 2.3 create 6 betas will need posting here

but then again, I think I said that when beta.11 released

[olive belfry]

[olive belfry]

Nevermind it sometimes happens at random

I have to complain to them about it now

With enough people we can change this

Oh it doesn't happen at random

It's the presents
When opened they crash the entire server
Why the hell-

[olive belfry]

https://github.com/MehVahdJukaar/Supplementaries/issues/1768

[old narwhal]

told you

[olive belfry]

buh

He was quick with it too

[floral brook]

I plan to fix this eventually since they don't feel like it

We should probably be able to handle this type of thing

[olive belfry]

Thankyou
I may not be able to open my presents by christmas

[old narwhal]

But would it really hurt his code that badly to move it to a different tick phase, for compatibility 😭

we could choose to not support Create mod at all, because its "not vanilla", but instead we have many (many) mixins to get it to work properly

[floral brook]

Yea but this one actually you have a case to make that it's our fault

I mean in any case this is an issue that affects other mods with custom dimensions too

[old narwhal]

Only runtime generates ones in the wrong tick phase

normal, JSON-driven dimensions are fine

[floral brook]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive belfry]

I wonder if they'd accept a pull request of that
I'm pretty sure it couldn't hurt that much,,,

Although it does look like a pretty big thing for the mod if it happens at reload and opening presents. (for some reason)

[old narwhal]

But why does supplementaries need so many fake dimensions

what is it even doing on /reload that needs one??

[olive belfry]

I don't even know what those are... But by the name I don't get how a mod like that would require one?

[old narwhal]

to give an example of where its used

the supplementaries cannon shoots any item / block

it then makes a fake dimension (also called a Level, fake because you can't get to it as a player) to simulate what that item/block does

it then takes that result, and applies it to the normal world

removing the fake level

[olive belfry]

Ohhh

Likely used for the slingshot as well

I thought it was just a projectile like any other

[olive belfry]

It is a projectile, as it doesn't crash

[olive belfry]

[old narwhal]

where did bro ask

[olive belfry]

Good question

It is clear communication is the problem here
But I'm unsure anyone would listen to anything at this point-

[sage valley]

#1425302706729254942 message

[old narwhal]

no I mean

where did MehVahJukaar ask if theres a specific time dimensions should be made

the forge discord? the minecraft discord? here?

[sage valley]

ohh

lol my b

[hallow loom]

That might explain why adding Spectrum crashes my modpack... 🤔

[stuck berry]

is this forge or fabric?

[cedar plinth]

why use these versions?

its been published afaik

[stuck berry]

where?

[cedar plinth]

modritnh and cf

[stuck berry]

the create 6 versions?

[cedar plinth]

yeah

beta 12

[stuck berry]

crazy

[cedar plinth]

create 6 compat has been out for a while now

[stuck berry]

crazy

[cedar plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184526282025865296/1259318686406152312/compressor.gif

[stuck berry]

?

[cedar plinth]

im compressing it

im compressing it

[stuck berry]

when melting point?

[cedar plinth]

uuh

in a bit

[stuck berry]

k

[cedar plinth]

i dont feel like playing mc rn

[stuck berry]

why?

[cedar plinth]

idk what to build

i wanna build an airship but no mp or propulsion 0.3.0

[stuck berry]

when?

[sage valley]

too real

[thick glen]

Clocked the worked

[rustic crag]

Is this the WIP interactive

If it is let me know if there are issues

[stuck berry]

Ye

[stuck berry]

This is the issue

@rustic crag ^

[rustic crag]

that... isn't a issue, actually.

that's ship to world connection

[stuck berry]

Ye, when will it be implemented?

[rustic crag]

Probably won't be in base VS

[slate pivot]

no

that would be a pain in the ass and largly useless 😭

[stuck berry]

aw man

[rough ibex]

Lmao

[stuck berry]

?

[rough ibex]

Thea is right, it'd be a pain to make

[stuck berry]

but VS addition has that for mechanical arms alr

[rough ibex]

Yea that's completely different

[stuck berry]

rlly?

[rough ibex]

Yea, idk how exactly vs additions does arms, but with chain conveyers crossing ship to world you'd need to do a bunch of weird things to make it even slightly work, id imagine

[pulsar warren]

and

the conveyor blocks will look weird

the tunnels will just slide around it freely

as if the weren't wood and metal structures

[slate pivot]

You'd have to rewrite the entire render to make it dynamic 😭

[cedar plinth]

vs addition arms are just. if close: work

[old narwhal]

and all the functionality I suspect

[olive belfry]

Packages and players need to go on it

I can't think of a lot of use cases for this-

[hollow pendant]

is clockwork what allows you to put contraptions on airships (without them turning invisible) ?

[old narwhal]

No

That should work without clockwork

With latest Valkyrien skies

[hollow pendant]

uhhh maybe I have too old of a nightly

[old narwhal]

Considering it’s now been released publicly

…yes

[hollow pendant]

lol def then

[old narwhal]

Like, it’s on modrinth / Curseforge

[hollow pendant]

im running the newest version now, same issue. is it an oculus/embeddium issue?

[hallow loom]

Most likely. As per the #faq -look for Block Face Culling option in visual settings

[old narwhal]

I don’t think that’s it

[old narwhal]

Works fine for me, shaders and everything

Send a screenshot of the issue and a modlist

[hollow pendant]

You are most likely right about this, BFC was already off. I will send the screenshot when I get on my pc later

[thick glen]

valkyrien dynamic lights when

[thick glen]

uhhh whut

vs 2.4 already out???

devs

gib vs 2.4 when

[old narwhal]

Use older vlib

[thick glen]

yes i know

[old narwhal]

2.4s on the GitHub yk

[thick glen]

;~; the Valkrien

[old narwhal]

But tomato got that version of vlib released for LLDJ

So they could use it with 2.4

[thick glen]

whast the different between 2.4 and 2.3?

[rough ibex]

a lot

[old narwhal]

Lots of backend fixes and changes

Anyway 2.4 isn’t out just yet

[thick glen]

why vlib exsited for 2.4

[old narwhal]

I’m asking tomato that myself rn

[thick glen]

sed

anyway

whats backend and frontend?
backend is like API and frontend is like UI?

[old narwhal]

In terms of a website yeah

But in VS it’s a little more vague

Front end would be like, stuff the user notices like performance and features

Backend is the stuff addon devs notice

And the backend’s backend is closed source

[thick glen]

sed

[pulsar warren]

when they ask you how is thirst spelled in spanish:

[sage valley]

LLDJ's event uses Valkyrien Sails, which requires VLib, so both those mods got updated to 2.4

(I just haven't posted the Sails version yet)

[thick glen]

lldj?

[sage valley]

(we needed to do it for VLib so we could use the maven)

[sage valley]

#1425302706729254942 message

[thick glen]

i mean what is LLDJ?

[sage valley]

he's a guy that hosts minecraft events

the current one going on is seafaring related

[thick glen]

non linear versioning

[sage valley]

it's still linear

we're not releasing an older version after a newer one lol

[thick glen]

we havent yet the stable release of 2.3 and 2.4 had existed

lol

[cedar plinth]

no they just kinda forgot what versioning was in 2.3

but its a bit weird to publish vlib for 2.4 when vs hasn't published 2.4

at least imo

[sage valley]

again, it needed to happen because Sails needs it on MR and CF to use it as a dependency

[cedar plinth]

oh

[sage valley]

also, it won't be weird for long

[cedar plinth]

true

[old narwhal]

I mean

You know you can depend on a local jar file right

[sage valley]

yeah ig

it was easier this way tho

[novel heron]

Is this possible to do in VS?

frogport eat package across ships

@rustic crag

[old narwhal]

Possible yes, going to be implemented into VS itself, no

[novel heron]

why not

it's useful (or not

i mean the deployer feature can be implemented into vs, then add a frog compat is ok

[woven surge]

idk probably bloat or smth

[old narwhal]

Well

Actually I guess it might end up in vs

But not before vs 2.5, we aren’t doing another 2.3 beta

It might be in a VS addon before that though

[thick glen]

is create aeronautics even a thing?

[sage valley]

no

[smoky wraith]

It’s just a slower passion project, don’t expect it at any real date, but it’s always being made until either it’s released or anythingelse

[simple goblet]

What

Since when hyperdrives works

Oh i know why