#first 100% slop VS addon

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summer rune
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First VS addon made 100% in mcreator, finally we can have the VS slop addons we always wanted!

(But more seriously, this is prob gonna be my most controversial post, so I just want to clarify that I don't think you should make a VS addon in MCreator, and you should learn how to make a real mod first. MCreator is quite restrictive, once you learn how to do stuff without it. Mostly I made this plugin as a fun project for myself)

Features supported:

  • Get/set ship info (slug, static, velocity, etc)
  • Apply forces and rotational forces to ships (it uses a hidden force inducer)
  • Teleport ships (uses a teleport handler stolen from inspired by Starlance)
  • Transform position and directions to/from ships
  • Ship load event
  • Store custom string/boolean/number data in the force inducer per-ship

Todo:

  • Ship assembly stuff
  • Support stuff other than Forge 1.20.1
  • Prob some other stuff I've forgotten idk

Yes, I chose to make this right as a VS update is looming over us that will make me have to re-factor this entire thing clueless (if I do), but hey no time like the present.

Plugin link:
https://mcreator.net/plugin/114886/valkyrien-skies-plugin

alpine saddle
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I WILL KILL YOU

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WHY WOULD YOU DO THISSS coppercrying

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THIS IS AWEFULLLL

summer rune
alpine lichen
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Finally

frozen delta
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update soon ??!!1

alpine lichen
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We can have our tasty hundreds of sloppy textured and free to use thruster addons that we waited for years

summer rune
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exactly trollface

alpine lichen
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🤑

frozen delta
summer rune
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I think what everyone really really wanted from VS was low-quality addons

frozen delta
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me when mc creator vs release (idk how to code )

cinder lantern
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STOP

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STOP THIS INSTANT

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GUARDS SEIZE HIM

undone kayak
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fr

summer rune
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I'm going to get vs arrested

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call the gradle police

cinder lantern
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slop alert major slopp alert major

austere isle
summer rune
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idk I never used that stuff much anyway

austere isle
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Which i see you didn't implement

summer rune
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I ain't supporting those clueless

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sounds like hella pain to implement

static ore
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@summer rune when create networking plug-in for mcreator

austere isle
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Either way

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Delete it

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You opened Pandora's box

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There's still a chance

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To shove the genie back into the bottle

summer rune
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the repo is public

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theres no going back

austere isle
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Before someone forks it

summer rune
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honestly, the plugin might just make your mcreator workspace explode

candid void
austere isle
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Good

summer rune
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its very hard to test a plugin that adds fucking VS to gradle

candid void
static ore
austere isle
candid void
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had to resort to 'japanese ogre'

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oh right

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why is it not called devil

summer rune
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devil? no japanese ogre

austere isle
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Not a devil

summer rune
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🍤

candid void
summer rune
austere isle
candid void
summer rune
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👿

austere isle
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It's that easy

candid void
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they look the same

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just one is holding a fork

austere isle
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Devils are personifications of evil

static ore
austere isle
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And are usually red in western mythology

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Imps are creatures, like fairies and demons

tepid tinsel
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No way bro 😭

austere isle
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And they look wildly different according to what flavour to eurolore you subscribe to

static ore
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@rough sparrow gonna go crazy

tepid tinsel
summer rune
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he was pretty "meh" about it

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plus he showed me some of the new stuff hes making

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and its actually good code

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(though he's still using mcreator to compile it...)

rich ferry
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Oh god

restive steppe
warm juniper
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bro i wanna make an addon of clockwork ngl

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make jet engines that require rotational energy

static ore
warm juniper
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Uhmmm

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Does it work??

static ore
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they produce a little thrust

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bc they're tiny

rich ferry
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(can be changed in config if you install addon that I forgot the name, probably VS additions or clockwork additions)

rich ferry
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oh

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l m a o

alpine lichen
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Bro forgor to forget

rich ferry
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well its always one of the two lol

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and this time its both clueless

gray olive
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Hmmm yay build failures

cinder lantern
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I will make vs3, stand by

gray olive
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Line 3 of build.gradle failure

summer rune
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post build error

gray olive
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and I cant create a new workspace for some reason

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instant failure, doesnt even take a second to think

gray olive
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Seems to be related to forge mixins

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Yup

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It is forge mixins

summer rune
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yeah

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not sure why thats happening

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the vs plugin requires forge mixins

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but idk why forge mixins is failing

gray olive
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Forge mixin incorrectly made the build file

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but i think im having new issues now

summer rune
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?

gray olive
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Only loads if I have 0 elements

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nvm

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doesnt load

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at all

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Oh I see why

summer rune
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whats the error?

gray olive
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Working splendid

summer rune
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ah nice!

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How did you fix forge mixins btw?

gray olive
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ye

gray olive
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which means I cant use another API

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I could be wrong though

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maybe it is forge mixins again but I cant have geckolib elements

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geckolib API isnt loading correctly for some reason

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I think atleast

summer rune
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It does infact write to the mcreator.gradle

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But it uses the built in mcreator plug-in gradle system

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So I thought it could figure out how to combine dependencies

gray olive
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could it be the fault of mixin system?

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Think you can try loading geckolib API with it?

summer rune
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Not today

gray olive
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it build fails only if there are geckolib elements in the mod

summer rune
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But later yeah I can test

summer rune
gray olive
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yes

summer rune
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Strange

vivid sundial
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its slopping time..

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honestly

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its gonna be kind of neat to see what ppl will make lmao

cinder lantern
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these are the end times

alpine lichen
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*slops all over the place *

noble vapor
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Under 50 slop mods is 1 good. Gj

edgy hatch
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i remember to once have wanted to try to make an eureka addon in mcreator

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the stage i failed at were the imports

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either because of stupidity on my side

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or the program

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but tbh it robably was my stupidity looking up a few messages

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well … good thing im finally learning fabric (because forge sux … because its more suitable for where i wnt to use the mod)

fallen cosmos
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Why did it appear after I decided to learn java and uninstalled mcreator coppercrying

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Now I don't know what I should do

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Should I learn "normal" programming, or download mcreator

edgy hatch
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why not both lol

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and then use mcreator as IDE (ik … bruh idea …)

restive steppe
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mcreator should be a gateway into real mod making

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if you’ve already started stepping through that gate, don’t go back cuz there’s some candy

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an entire feast awaits you inside

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watch some kaupenjoe videos or something

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his series helped me a lot with learning the basics, and he posts all his code for you to look thru at your own pace

edgy hatch
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kaupenjoe is goated

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perfect way to learn

fallen cosmos
austere isle
fallen cosmos
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I think I'm calculating the area of a triangle in java

austere isle
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what is there to learn

fallen cosmos
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Or int x = 7;

austere isle
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oh

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you're at that level

fallen cosmos
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I'm at that level

rich ferry
austere isle
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it's like

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year 5 geometry

rich ferry
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yeah? I started by learning stuff like how to read and write to the console

austere isle
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that uses a formula

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you need to master the basics

rich ferry
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and even that
Implementing geometry stuff isn't really related to programming

austere isle
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or smth like that

rich ferry
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you could just do a "function that adds 3 numbers together"

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and don't have to worry about both your code and your maths

austere isle
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you can do that

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while not understanding anything

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doing that for

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a separate formular

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proves mastery over the * operator

rich ferry
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I genuinely don't understand the logic
Why would you want to start with something more complicated, but complicated not code wise just maths wise

rich ferry
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the complicated part is the formula

austere isle
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it's a simple formular

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it's not really complicated

rich ferry
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and if you can't write a formula its not a programming skill issue

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its a maths skill issue

austere isle
fallen cosmos
rich ferry
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anyways
This is too dumb to try and understand

rich ferry
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can't believe I wrote that much in this thread geez

austere isle
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you're just too french

rich ferry
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probably schem doing his things smh

austere isle
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you just suffer from french education system

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where this is a complicated formular

rich ferry
austere isle
rich ferry
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nah even I am not that deranged, even after trying 💀

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I could not keep it active, it was just annoying to use after years of dark mode

rich ferry
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but could not get used to it

austere isle
rich ferry
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its so wierd seing the VSCord emojis

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on white mode

austere isle
fallen cosmos
rich ferry
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that's just !light mode clueless

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basically the same

west shard
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@summer rune vs2 1.21 mcreator port would've been better

restive steppe
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nowadays the google AI will probably give you an instant summary of how to anyway

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but you don’t ever need to take keyboard input when programming a minecraft mod. MC takes care of that for you

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at least in most situations

fallen cosmos
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Yea, but I kinda want to learn a bit of programming language itself

restive steppe
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What I would recommend focusing on is learning the fundamentals of programming logic and Object Oriented design.
Stuff like:
-Loops (for and while)
-If statements
-Variables
-Methods/functions
-Scope
-Classes
-Objects

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@fallen cosmos

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that stuff is universal across all programming languages* and is the most important stuff to know for Minecraft modding

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If you know that, you’re pretty well equipped to do mc modding

fallen cosmos
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I know only variables for now

restive steppe
summer rune
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@fallen cosmos I don’t even know myself how to get console input in Java lmao

rich ferry
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or at least that's what I remember, but also that was like 10 years ago clueless

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more like 8 actually

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but around that time

restive steppe
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@fallen cosmos I just checked kaupenjoe's channel, and he has a whole series about learning Java for Minecraft modding

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In this first Tutorial of the Java Introduction for Minecraft Modding, we will Setup our IDE (Intellij), download the JDK (Java Development Kit) and run the Java program for the first time!

== SUPPORT ME ON PATREON ==
▶️ https://url.kaupenjoe.net/patreon

== ASSETS & DOWNLOAD LINKS ==
JDK: https://adoptium.net/temurin/releases/?version=17...

▶ Play video
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This series is probably the best thing for you at your level

restive steppe
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His presentation style is also very good and easy to understand

summer rune
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damn

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i shoulve released this on april fools

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(the april fools joke being that it exists 3dsmile )

restive steppe
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lmao that would have been great

edgy hatch
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it would’ve been

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it would’ve

gray olive
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If not how can I get the velocity of a ship?

summer rune
gray olive
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Ah good

summer rune
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look in the extra types vec3 section

gray olive
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thank you

summer rune
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👍

gray olive
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Oof it seems I cannot apply any sort of variables to the force inducer strength

summer rune
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It should just need a number?

gray olive
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This is extremely problematic

gray olive
summer rune
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Can you show me?

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Just a screenshot?

gray olive
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Something like this

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Just example

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doesnt work

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NOTHING that isnt a fixed number

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Local variables for example

summer rune
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As it it can’t be plugged in?

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Or it doesn’t compile?

gray olive
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doesnt compile

summer rune
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Or not generate any code?

summer rune
gray olive
summer rune
gray olive
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error: bad operand types for binary operator '*'

summer rune
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Binary editor?

gray olive
summer rune
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What’s after that, usually it would say “bad operand types… int, string” or something

gray olive
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I removed the multiplier and just made it grab the variable and

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bad type in conditional expression now

summer rune
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I see the problem

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I wrote … : “”

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Basically the default value is “” which is a string not a number

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Which is breaking it

gray olive
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ah

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also have you tested it breaking other plugins?

summer rune
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I’ll see if I can fix that today but you might have to wait till tomorrow or find a workaround

summer rune
gray olive
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ok

summer rune
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@gray olive I updated it

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theres now a v1.1 on the website that should work for getting logic/nums from ships

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you may need to hit "view generated code" on the procedures before they update btw

gray olive
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Guessing the forge mixins plugin is 100% necessary right?

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(because it is breaking so many things)

summer rune
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yeah

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unfortunately

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what else has it broken?

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I can perhaps make a more updated version of it if I can find why its breaking stuff

gray olive
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the default one breaks gradle build, I had to manually fix that

summer rune
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thats probably the vs plugin

summer rune
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how did it break it, and how did you fix it?

gray olive
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I have a workspace without the vs api and it doesnt work

summer rune
gray olive
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I put 1.1 in and the version says 1.0

summer rune
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oh i forgot to update the actual plugin file

gray olive
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and it is broken for the same reason

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yeah

summer rune
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hang on ill actually test myself

gray olive
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I mean the small bug

summer rune
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small bug?

gray olive
summer rune
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ohh alr

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i see the problem

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1 sec

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@gray olive new v1.1 should work

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and i actually updated the version num this time

gray olive
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ok

summer rune
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Did it work?

gray olive
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checking

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Nope

summer rune
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What tf does mcreator store numbers as

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Wait I maybe should just use float

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I’ll try that hang on

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@gray olive one last time

gray olive
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aaaa

summer rune
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float -> double -> int -> Number

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ig I just can't do double because double -> float doesn't work

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and Number doesn't do + - * / and all that

gray olive
summer rune
gray olive
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ForceData data = new ForceData(VectorConversionsMCKt.toJOML((new Vec3(0, 1, 0))), (10000 * (float) ((ship instanceof ServerShip) ? ForceInducedShips.getOrCreate((ServerShip) ship).getNumData("Velocity") : 0)), ForceMode.POSITION,
ForceDirectionMode.SHIP);

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Problematic bit

summer rune
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And it’s saying can’t covert double to float?

gray olive
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Imma go for a bit

summer rune
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Alr

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I’ll investigate more tomorrow

noble vapor
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Question

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gow do i get this scratch like interface?

edgy hatch
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download mcreator

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its a free mod maker

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great for starting

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but has some limitations

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started with it a few years ago and now slowly switching to regular code by learning fabric

summer rune
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@gray olive I think I fixed it btw

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the math problem not the geckolib

rich ferry
gray olive
summer rune
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Somewhat

gray olive
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ok

gray olive
summer rune
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God damn it

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What’s the procedure blocks look like?

gray olive
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Simple throttle

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Been having to do this to bypass the issue

summer rune
gray olive
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From NBT data on a block, It doesnt work with any variables I have tested other methods

summer rune
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I’m not sure I’ve been fixing the right block

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Which block isn’t working again?

gray olive
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block pos version of force inducer

summer rune
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Huh?

gray olive
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The bottom one

summer rune
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Oh

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Yeah I’ve been fixing the wrong block

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Does it not work with any block poses?

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Wait or the strength doesn’t work on it?

gray olive
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The strength doesnt work with variables

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it works with fixed numbers only

summer rune
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But only on the block pos variant?

gray olive
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I havent tested the other one

summer rune
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Alright I’ll look at it

gray olive
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and id be set if you fixed it breaking other plugins

summer rune
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I was trying to fix the “get number from ship” block

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That I haven’t had time to investigate yet sorry

gray olive
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It os broken with ALL variables

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not just getting number from ship

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If it isnt a fixed number, it is broken

summer rune
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@gray olive I actually fixed it this time

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But you need to delete the ships folder in your mod files, then restart ur workspace

gray olive
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This is the 4th actually but ok

summer rune
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I was changing "get number variable from ship"

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I didn't realise it was actually "apply force to ship" that was broken 🤦

gray olive
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Finally it didnt crash, now to test if the thing actually works

summer rune
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hooray!

gray olive
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Works

summer rune
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nice! 3dsmile

elfin ridgeBOT
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__**brickyboy124**#0__ has been warned

Reason: actually fixed the issue (not allowed)

summer rune
gray olive
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Now id just be set if it didnt break my other plugins

summer rune
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not sure i have time to fix that today

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but ill take a look

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@gray olive I got the geckolib plug-in to work, here’s the steps I tried:

  • add geckolib plug-in
  • activate geckolib API
  • refactor workspace
  • reload workspace (need to regenerate files)
  • open up each procedure with Valkyrien skies stuff and hit “generate code viewer” then save element
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I’m not sure what issue you were running into

gray olive
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thats the only way it breaks

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It works with the plugin installed, I just cant actually use the plugin

summer rune
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Oh ok I’ll try

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What geckolib element needs the least info to make

gray olive
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I think they all need a geckolib file sadly

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But the issue im about certain is the API is loading incorrectly

summer rune
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Yeah but looking at the mcreator.gradle it seems geckolib lib has been added

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Can you send a geckolib model so I can try?

gray olive
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But it cant reference anything from the API

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Uh ok

summer rune
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Oh I can just use a geckolib procedure block true

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Hmm the geckolib procedure worked

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I might still need that model to test ig

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I’ll open up blockbench and make a test model

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Actually I gotta do that tomorrow I’m out of time for today

noble vapor
cyan wave
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anyone know how to fix this, or what is causing it?

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i must commit slopification

edgy hatch
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correct mcreator version ?

cyan wave
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2024.2

edgy hatch
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it seems that it can not apply the plugin

cyan wave
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sorry, hit the wrong key, 2024.4

edgy hatch
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hmm

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have you followed the install instructions 1:1

cyan wave
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where is that?

edgy hatch
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in the description of the plugin

cyan wave
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oh, ye i followed those, i have forge mixins and extra types

edgy hatch
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yk

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have you enabled all of them in your workspace settings external APIs section

cyan wave
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lemme check

edgy hatch
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if so try reopening mcreator, and if that also doesn’t help reinstall to plugin maybe

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if all of that doesn’t work … well i guess youre gonna have to wait for bricky

cyan wave
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aight

cyan wave
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Forge mixins and that other thing not being there might be part of the problem

edgy hatch
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then you installed forge mixins and procedure extras or whatever the other one was wrong

cyan wave
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Ah, aight

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I'll try again tomorrow

summer rune
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I dont think forge mixins has an api

summer rune
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can you send the full log?

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you can send it to me in a dm if it has ur username or other stuff you don't want to put here

worn rapids
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Humm... i made a VS addon using Mcreator without this plugin, i just coded everything in custom elements lol

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But when i see this plugin i think learn to code and make your addon in JAVA Will be easier than make THAT F*** MIXINS PLUGIN WORKS

summer rune
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yeah the mixin plugin is annoying

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and making a vs addon in java is definitly easier and more customizable, once you know how

worn rapids
worn rapids
summer rune
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i also tried that

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it was annoying

worn rapids
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but the worst thing is that you stole the teleportation from starlance, but i made VS Hyperdrives before

worn rapids
summer rune
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Yeah I stole took inspiration from the starlance code 3dsmile

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but idk what you mean about vs hyperdrives

worn rapids
summer rune
worn rapids
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okay

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thought you used the teleport from VS ( like /vs teleport)

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trying to use your plugin but i think i forgot how to code using blocks

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i doesn't work clueless

summer rune
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well its not triggered sus

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so x y and z are nothing?

worn rapids
summer rune
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procedures don't do anything unless triggered?

worn rapids
summer rune
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are you sure its on a ship?

worn rapids
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oh no the block is not on a ship

worn rapids
summer rune
worn rapids
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shippified by ship creator from API

summer rune
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but

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if your block is in the world

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it can't "find" ships

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so the block at y+2 will only be a ship

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if the block that is checking is on the same ship

worn rapids
summer rune
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yeas

worn rapids
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/vs get-ship

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oops

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should not give ideas to guys who will not do it in java

summer rune
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thats a good point though I should make a way to "find" ships

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without having a block thats on the ship

worn rapids
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If at least people made efforts to Create non ugly textures

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i say that but i was making ugly textures 1 month ago clueless

summer rune
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My only hope is that itll help more advanced mcreator modders (people who use custom code and stuff) understand how VS and its systems work

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then they can maybe find a proper VS java addon easier

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I also think anyone who isn't an advanced mcreator modder will probably not make a mod with this plugin anyway

worn rapids
summer rune
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apply rotation means make it spin

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I haven't made a "set rotation" yet

worn rapids
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will go back code in JAVA

summer rune
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huh?

worn rapids
summer rune
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maybe

worn rapids
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but i'm lazy

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a bit too much

young crypt
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it

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i have idea for mod in mcreator

summer rune
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MCreator plugins have like barely any documentation

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Especially Java plugins, I mean their Java plug-in example is literally outdated and broken

edgy hatch
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mcreator plugin creation certainly is weird

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but well thats a drawback

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of a software with some cool features

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like just think about it … if you can easily create a base for a huge mod anywhere its probably mcreator

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nothing for super complex

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but super basic sh|t

young crypt
summer rune
young crypt
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ok so there a plugin about vs compat?

summer rune
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this post

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is literally showcasing my plugin... that adds vs compat sus

young crypt
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oh im dumb

summer rune
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lmao clueless

young crypt
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i thout it was a mod made with mcreater not for mcreate with mcreator

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my bad

summer rune
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its an example mod made with mcreator with a plugin for mcreator clueless

young crypt
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👍

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im so dumb

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lol

young crypt
summer rune
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Though I technically only tested it on 2024.3/4

young crypt
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what are the dependetise

summer rune
young crypt
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ok

summer rune
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  • Extra types
  • Forge Mixins
young crypt
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it work i was missing only forge mixins thanks

worn rapids
summer rune
worn rapids
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but work perfectly in 2024.3

summer rune
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Have you tried using the 2024.3 version and manually editing the plug-in.json to make it support 2024.4?

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Honestly I’m thinking of combining the mixin plug-in into vs

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Because it seems kinda buggy but I might be able to make it a little more stable

young crypt
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is there a way to detect when a ship colide with somthing

summer rune
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nope

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not even java VS addons can do that clueless

young crypt
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why?

summer rune
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because its a little tricky for VS to code

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but mostly because the VS devs haven't done it yet...

young crypt
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one more thing i need to wait for the update to do. 😭

summer rune
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its not even in vs 2.5.0 yet

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what else are you waiting for? thonk

young crypt
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clockwork update

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um mcreator 2024.4 dont want to run minecraft

summer rune
young crypt
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yep 😭

summer rune
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No i mean clueless

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whats the error

worn rapids
ember portal
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mcreator 2024.4 does this

summer rune
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I haven’t found a relatable solution, although someone managed to reset their gradle or something then it worked

ember portal
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It’s cool it’s working on 2024.3 tho I never expected something like this so soon ngl

summer rune
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the plugin you mean?

ember portal
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yea

simple flame
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brickboy can we get a seprate version to support vs 2.5.0 please ?

static ore
summer rune
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yes

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and it will be compatible with the current one

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so you can update easily

noble vapor
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It’s crazy that we haven’t gotten any slop addons yet

summer rune
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no slop, just peakuim

simple flame
summer rune
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but peakium vs isn't slop

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its peak clueless

simple flame
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yeah

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so please make a version compatible with 2.5.0 so we can have more pekium's

also is making something like the physics bearing from clockwork is possible with this vs addon for MCreator?

summer rune
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but once the 2.5 version comes out

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yes probably

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(2.5 makes bearings slightly easier so I can get them working with the plugin)

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also I already have a 2.5 compatible (mostly) version of the plugin

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I'm just not releasing it yet since 2.5 is still being changed almost daily

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and isn't released yet, obviously

simple flame
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yeah till create 6 fabric release

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rewiritng and stuff

summer rune
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create 6?

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nah its mostly fixing all the other changes for now

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with the change to a new api and physx and all

simple flame
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Is physx tps friendly more then 2.3.0 physics engine ?

summer rune
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yes

simple flame
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😄

worn rapids
summer rune
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It’s true

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It does require knowledge of vectors and stuff

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Which mcreator doesn’t teach you normally

restive steppe
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I really want to learn how to use mcreator just so I can make a slop addon

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I’ll call it the thrustinator, and it will create random thrust in random directions when provided with power

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also random whether it is local or global thrust

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maybe I’ll make the assemblinator, too, which will assemble a random number of blocks between 1 and 256

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and add random blocks to its blacklist

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bugs will all be considered features

summer rune
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actually you can only assemble 1 block at a time clueless

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haven't added multiple-block assembly yet

restive steppe
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rip

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the plans for the assemblinator will have to be scaled back then 🧐

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it sometimes assembles the block, and it sometimes doesn’t 3dsmile

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wait, I wonder if I could make it assemble like eureka, but assemble each block as its own ship

summer rune
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oh god 💀

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the "game oom crash slopinator" mod

restive steppe
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XD

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when joints are available, I should make it so that each single block ship is connected to its neighbors by a joint

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genius

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I truly am the mod maker of all time

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performance? What’s that? This is a mcreator addon

summer rune
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its kinda ironic

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that to be able to make a slop mod with this

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you need to have enough knowledge in how to make a good mod

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like you aren't gonna get some kid who knows what a vector is, that also makes "valkyrien skibidi toilet"

restive steppe
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lol, true

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I wonder what “vakyrien skibidi toilet” would look like tho 🤔

summer rune
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1,000,000 polygon obj model block with crazy force inducer logic

restive steppe
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lmao yeah

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actually laughed out loud