PLEASE rework code

[steel bramble]

???

[exotic furnace]

There are just var1 var2 var 3 etc.

How am I supposed to understand this

[steel bramble]

where are you even looking

what code

[exotic furnace]

In mod code

[steel bramble]

which mod

[exotic furnace]

VS2

[steel bramble]

you’re looking at it through the github right?

[exotic furnace]

Yeah literally

[steel bramble]

ok good

for a second i thought you were one of those people why try to decompile mods

[exotic furnace]

Yeah I understand

So just to say, I am writing my addon and it would be good to contact with coder

Because there will be many more questions

[exotic furnace]

Oh nuh, I looked at it through IntelijIDE, downloaded with curse forge maven

[steel bramble]

either way

you shouldn’t be looking at VS2 repo if you’re trying to make your first addon

you’re better off looking at addon code

[exotic furnace]

yeah but as I sayed I want to understand how everything works to be capable to do anything I want

so I need some one who coded this to explain

in addition my friend is beta mod owner, and he was trying to make compilability and he failed, so he needs help too

[steel bramble]

a large chunk of the code is in vs-core

which is closed source rn

so if you want to understand everything

by just looking at the code

you won’t get far

[exotic furnace]

not realy everything

everything I can do with VS2

[steel bramble]

either way

what code do you not get

[exotic furnace]

?

[steel bramble]

actually

if you need help with something

[exotic furnace]

as I sayed I need someone to explain something from the beginning(I am dumb)

[steel bramble]

just ask about it in #addon-talk

[exotic furnace]

done

[steel bramble]

if you want to get help even faster

explain what you need help with

and what parts exactly you need explanations for

[exotic furnace]

another question, do I nee to use kotlin to mod with VS?
I know nothing about kotlin for forge

[exotic furnace]

vectors and checking if the block on ship

[steel bramble]

no

but it’s easier

[steel bramble]

there’s a function for getting the ship a block is on

[exotic furnace]

but not for me cause i don`t know kotlin)

[steel bramble]

if you’re using kotlin

[exotic furnace]

what it is?

[outer ridge]

VSGameUtilsKT has a bunch of useful methods to check if a block is on a ship or which ship a block belongs to or other similar things

[exotic furnace]

so that`s what I can't find

[outer ridge]

https://github.com/ValkyrienSkies/Valkyrien-Skies-2/blob/1.18.x/main/common/src/main/kotlin/org/valkyrienskies/mod/common/VSGameUtils.kt

Its in Kotlin but intellij can translate it to Java for you

[exotic furnace]

Can you just say who is coder and I'll contact him later, because there are many things to talk about

As I mentioned for my friend too

[outer ridge]

Just post specific questions in this server, there are many knowledgeable people who are happy to help if you or your friend if you can explain what specifically is causing you trouble. No point in taking up the dev’s time (which could otherwise be spent making VS2 better) if questions can be answered by the community

If your question is truly profound and baffles the community then reaching out to the devs makes sense

[exotic furnace]

Ok who can help

[lavish maple]

Kotlin compiles into the same bytecode that java does, runs on the jvm, and both can interact with each other.Theres no real reason to use kotlin over java imo

[exotic furnace]

Thx

[lavish maple]

All kotlin nerds will argue against me but you shouldnt listen to them

[exotic furnace]

Yeah it just look easy but java is more common for me

[outer ridge]

Whoever is free at the time. I doubt anyone will want to commit to helping you through troubles without even knowing what your project is or what the difficulties are, but generally people like me, priestoffern, spaceeye, and others are hanging around and can answer questions.

As a side note everyone in the server seems to be renaming themselves to Ewoudje which makes things a little confusing

[exotic furnace]

So you can help?

[outer ridge]

Not right now, I’m going to bed

[exotic furnace]

Oh where are you from?

[outer ridge]

US

[exotic furnace]

Uh I am from Ukraine, a problem

It's morning in Europe now

[outer ridge]

I don’t have the time to be a part of your project. I can answer a few questions in this server however, no guarantees that I’ll necessarily know the answer. Likely there will be others with the same answer as me, so I recommend that in this server you just ask some detailed questions such as « how do I implement this » and you’ll probably get answers when people have time

[exotic furnace]

Yeah, it will be easier if one person answers, can you recommend someone?

[outer ridge]

I don’t know what kind of mod you’re trying to make and I also don’t know who has time.

[exotic furnace]

Ok than I'll find

[outer ridge]

Anyone helping you will be giving their time because they’re excited about what you’re making. I think you’ll have an easier time finding someone to help if you give a bit of an explanation because right now no one really has much incentive to help

[exotic furnace]

About mod, create like thrusters, and my friend, create like space mod

[outer ridge]

Sounds cool. You might be interested in checking out the source code for Tournament. Good luck

[exotic furnace]

Uh yeah I'll also try that

Thx for explaining, bye

[outer ridge]

Np

[steel bramble]

because of the language itself???

kotlin has a ton of features java doesn’t

there’s a reason java users have to use Vsgame utils

instead of being able to access shipObjectWorld

[steel bramble]

by that logic

there’s no reason to use any programming language, since they either compile into machine code or get interpreted by something compiled into machine code

[exotic furnace]

and you

can you help me?

[steel bramble]

VSGameUtils has a function for getting a ship from block pos and level iirc

and on kotlin level.shipObjectWorld has a similar function

[exotic furnace]

nuh I won`t understand like this, maybe voice chat?

[steel bramble]

no

[exotic furnace]

ok

[lavish maple]

Doesnt level.shipObjectWorld do the same thing that VSGameUtilsKt.getShipObjectWorld does?

[exotic furnace]

And can you help maybe haha?

[lavish maple]

With what?

[exotic furnace]

With explaining how VS works

Like how do I apply vectors, check block being on ship etc.

[lavish maple]

Apply vectors to what?

[steel bramble]

but it’s prettier 🥱

[lavish maple]

Block being on ship was already explained by several people

[steel bramble]

and you don’t have to remember the name of some utils

and i think some vs2 methods are directly in level

[lavish maple]

Do you mean like, apply forces?

[exotic furnace]

Yeah literally

[exotic furnace]

Wish I understood that sooo

[steel bramble]

to apply force

you need to make a ship attachment class

have your block or whatever attach it to the ship

and then the ship attachment class will induce forces into it

look at how tournament or any other addon implements this

[exotic furnace]

Yeah forgot to say I am literally 0 in all of this I need example code

[steel bramble]

so then go look at the code base for addons

poking around in VS2 isn’t going to get you anywhere

[exotic furnace]

Yeah but where should I look exactly

[tardy cave]

[steel bramble]

tournament code

look into the ship attachment code

thruster code more specifically