I tried making a van but i suck at building lmao

[sweet crag]

plz give me tips on how make this not look god awful

[sturdy pelican]

Use Copycats+

[sweet crag]

i did

[sturdy pelican]

And separate the engine into a mini ship

[languid knoll]

It indeed looks like a brick.
A good starting point could be to "smooth"the angles ?
See the picture I joined. What do you think of replacing the red blocks by the triangle I circled in yellow ? Maybe replacing the purple blocks by stairs ? Try this, and we'll see for what's next.

[sweet crag]

the engine is inside the front part

[sturdy pelican]

And also a shit ton of practice

[sweet crag]

idk what you mean to split it into a miniship

[sturdy pelican]

So basically in VS2 you can scale ships

[sweet crag]

ik

well kinda i know the vmod gun can do it

but idk how you would connect that to the wheels?

since you need the outputs

[sturdy pelican]

Ender Transmissions

Or the CW:Additions thing

[sweet crag]

ok imma take a guess here

you make the car body first

[languid knoll]

He's sooo damn right ! Do not hesitate to search for other cars on the server. take the one with possible DL, try to reproduce them, and then compare to the original! Copying is a good way to learning

[sweet crag]

then you make the engine part

make it its own ship

after which you scale it and weld to the engine bay?

[sturdy pelican]

Nah that one was made by me

[sturdy pelican]

Yup

[sweet crag]

thanks for the tips, appreciate

[sturdy pelican]

Also after you weld it disable the collisions between the 2, should reduce lag

[sweet crag]

yeah that makes sense

[languid knoll]

Wdym ? I answered your message cause I agree with it ! 😄

[sweet crag]

i wanted to check this out cuz i thought it would be similar to scrap mechanic

been playing that since early alpha lol

alr ill test it out

thx

[sweet crag]

cw additions cant find

but ender additions i can

[sturdy pelican]

It's just that I didn't really try copying other people's stuff, but it might help

[sweet crag]

if u could link it

[sturdy pelican]

It's not on any mod website

[sweet crag]

where is it then

github?

[sturdy pelican]

Idk if there's builds of it on Discord

[sturdy pelican]

Yeah...

[sweet crag]

oh

so here or their server or smth

[sturdy pelican]

So ye you kinda have to build it

[sweet crag]

yeah nah don't really feel like that

ive never built java stuff before

ill go with ender

[languid knoll]

Nop nop, it was an advice I gave to @sweet crag , trying to reproduce good work of other people, like your. It's a way to learn for new methods, their results... But of course not the only one

[sweet crag]

i get where you coming from

if you wanna learn coding you look at open source projects and try to figure out what everything doesd

its a good way to learn

[sturdy pelican]

alright

[sturdy pelican]

People do kinda tend to think of Ender Transmissions as cheating, but there's a 2048 SU cost per transmitter at 256 rpm and I wouldn't say it's cheating if the engine is still inside the car

[humble kiln]

How do you place it inside?

[languid knoll]

I did think this ! Because it simplify so much integration of engine by removing the need for rotors from engine to <anything>.
I was today year old when I learned this SU cost, thanks !!

[sweet crag]

What is SU

[sturdy pelican]

Stress units

The energy unit of Create

[sweet crag]

I don't really want any cost to it cuz I don't care about the cheating aspect

[sturdy pelican]

Probably adjustable in config

[sturdy pelican]

You just... put it inside

[humble kiln]

How, it’s a separate ship and I need ender transmission

Which id rather I didn’t

[sturdy pelican]

I mean what's wrong with it? Better than Creative Motor

[humble kiln]

can you minify ships in survival?

[sweet crag]

I already use the creative motor most of the time since for some reason the sound is broken for me anyways

And I don't really do it for the survival aspect

It's just for fun

[languid knoll]

Well as the creative engine is like "infinite SU" the cost from end transmission won't impact you

[sturdy pelican]

You technically can if you enable it in VMod server permissions

[humble kiln]

eh I guess it’s not as bad then

but I still need ender transmission which means bigger engine requirements

[sweet crag]

To put into example the type of player I am, recently with some friends we were inspired by a video to make a mod pack with tons of crappy horror mods and we spent like 2 hours laughing at the the chaos it caused

[sturdy pelican]

I use TFMG
Those can have like 20000 SU lol

[humble kiln]

like right now I’m making an engine (full size) which is literally just connected to the wheels so that I can spin it up to an arbitrary rpm

if I use minified ships there’s like an upper limit because of the stress

[sturdy pelican]

noice

[sturdy pelican]

Eh, not really, the 2 ender transmissions are just 4096 SU, which is less than what a 2 modular diesel gen would make

[sturdy pelican]

Me neither really, I just think of creative motors as boring so I do this stuff

[humble kiln]

I’ve modified my create config to exceed the 256rpm maximum

[sturdy pelican]

Well shit

[sweet crag]

i tested it and the scale stuff is so cool

thanks for tellin me that im def gunna use it

me and my friends gunna build like a giant mobile base with trailers or smth

thats what they wanna do atleast

[humble kiln]

???

[sturdy pelican]

Not config adjustable(

[humble kiln]

I know

I was talking about the create rpm

[sturdy pelican]

Nah I get that, I just wanted to say you can adjust the SU cost in config but turns out you can't, so uh... yeah, kind of a bummer

[humble kiln]

Waiting for clockwork universal joint or whatever it was

[sturdy pelican]

CW:Additions, so it's not even directly from Clockwork

[humble kiln]

where can I find additions

and what does it do

[sturdy pelican]

Github so you have to build it

[humble kiln]

send link

[sturdy pelican]

Basically just adds cool blocks

[sturdy pelican]

https://github.com/GuyApooye/ClockworkAdditions/tree/1.20.1/main

[humble kiln]

Thank

[sweet crag]

what blocks did you use for the grille

heres attempt 2 so far, i can't really build with the copycats or framed blocks so im going for a more normal blocky minecraft look but with better proportions

[humble kiln]

Copycat bytes

[sweet crag]

connected textures dont work for me on them :/

so it looks really bad

[humble kiln]

Do as you want

[sturdy pelican]

I used copycat half panels and some funky copycat thing from Steam and Rails, with TFMG cast iron truss (if that was the name)

[sweet crag]

yeah but is there any way to fix the connected textures

[sturdy pelican]

Also wait are you using an old copycats+ version?

[sweet crag]

i was gunna use bytes here for headlights

[humble kiln]

press shift to read the description of the copycat byte

[sweet crag]

i did what it said

nothing

[sweet crag]

im using the latest for 1.20.1

[sturdy pelican]

Bro that's an iron block, they don't have connected textures for blocks that lack them either way

[sweet crag]

then i guess im not using it

cuz it looks horrible

[humble kiln]

put an iron block and put copycat half panels in front as headlights

[sturdy pelican]

I don't think you should use iron blocks in this way...

[sweet crag]

i build retro style

[sturdy pelican]

Esp. considering they weigh 7 tons each

[sweet crag]

as in

[humble kiln]

better weight distribution :

[sweet crag]

im very used to like 2012 building style

so yeah

[sturdy pelican]

I mean do what you want man, I just make cars (sometimes)

[sturdy pelican]

Still though iron blocks weigh a lot, the car is going to sink immediately and won't be able to move

Probably at least

[sweet crag]

already tested it and it works

besides i can probably override it

if not ill litterally edit the jar file to make it so

[sweet crag]

or actually i can just use the framed block

since it weighs nothing

and make it look like iron

i think ive accidentally made a semi

[humble kiln]

Bro is committed to making a big ballast

[sturdy pelican]

Man imagine the brakes fail

[sweet crag]

i replaced all the blocks with framed blocks

so it just looks like iron

but its actually light

because yes

[humble kiln]

idk why you would want it to look like iron but pop off

[sweet crag]

think of it as chromed plastic

[sturdy pelican]

Car bodies are usually metal

[sweet crag]

because i build like im stuck in 2011

[humble kiln]

my suggestion is using something like calcite or limestone as the body of your car

looks more like a car

because iron blocks have weird stripes on them

[sweet crag]

blud

like i said

the building style of 2011 has stayed with me

this is how i build

[humble kiln]

Do you want advice or not?

[sweet crag]

it looks right to me soooo

i just wanted advice on shapig it

not what materials

[humble kiln]

alright

have fun

use copycats

[sweet crag]

looking at this, it looks like you ussed stuff other than copycats

like smaller blocks even

[humble kiln]

Only the engine has smaller blocks by the looks of it

Everything else is copycats

[sturdy pelican]

I did kinda cheat a bit (the stuff in the red circles)

But other than that yeah it's copycats

[sweet crag]

hmmm

im tryina figure out a good way to hide the redstone link for the trackworks wheels

i think i know a good way to teach myself the copycats, thats to set a wheelbase size limit, like maxing it to be 2 blocks wide by 3 blocks long and the rest must be copycats

ill try itr

[humble kiln]

i wonder, how do you do weight distribution

i see no spot for heavy blocks

[sturdy pelican]

I didn't
I'm not that good

Also do you really expect high performance from a mini cooper convertible and a family turbine car?

[humble kiln]

yes

[sturdy pelican]

Hell nah

[sweet crag]

i have progressed to making: shitty sedan

[sturdy pelican]

And I have finally figured out how to fit the engine into what's gonna be a honda civic

so yes

VTEC KICKED IN YO

[rancid timber]

The improvement from tha last picture to this is so immense

I was scared you were gonna keep using the framed blocks

[humble kiln]

Not shitty at all. Only improvement to perfection would be using stairs and slabs and stuff to smooth out the glass and give the top a bit more thickness

[sweet crag]

what wheels are you using

those don't look like trackworks

[sturdy pelican]

Trackwork

[sweet crag]

some texture pack for em or what

cuz they don't look the same as mine

[sturdy pelican]

Ye texture pack

But it's part of a modpack

So uh

[sweet crag]

also where do you hide the redstone link

[sturdy pelican]

Idk how to send it here

[sturdy pelican]

Behind the wheel

[sweet crag]

thats what ive been doing wrong

ive been doing FWD

cuz im stupid

i gotta do RWD

for that i think

cuz the shafts go to the wheel from the back too

[sweet crag]

the modpack you can send via google drive link

i would rly appreiciate if you could send the vschem file of one of ur builds cuz i wanna see how u did it

for that i would need the modpack to avoid block issues or whatever

[sturdy pelican]

Just have this man

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1271939603804196864

[sweet crag]

that song

https://tenor.com/view/police-car-gif-9349472

lol

alr ill take a look

[sturdy pelican]

I kinda modified it a bit, I added Steam&Rails and Crafts&Additions, and removed Interactive

[sturdy pelican]

Oh I just do whatever the irl car has

[sturdy pelican]

So this is my second FWD...

[sweet crag]

idk how i would hide the redstone link behind the wheel

if i need to power said wheel

are you sure you don't use anything more than copycats+? cuz i see some half wall boards there

i tried making this car a lil less blocky

but it didnt rly work

[sturdy pelican]

Some wut?

[sweet crag]

you see this?

what block is it it

it looks like some sort of half board to me

[humble kiln]

Half panel by the looks of it

[sweet crag]

haven't seen that in my copycats+

i gotta check if im not tweakin and actually running the latest version of it

[sturdy pelican]

Are you sure about that lmao

[sweet crag]

my copycats tab looks way less populated than that

even considering that its tabbed into deco and function in my case

[sturdy pelican]

Are you sure you're using Copycats+ and not just Copycats?

[sweet crag]

yes

fyi this is a modpack i just cobbled together myself

its what i've done since 1.7.10 days

[humble kiln]

might be better to get the ulaidh modpack

[sweet crag]

idk i prefer to make my own

and it works

[humble kiln]

If it works then it’s fine

[sweet crag]

i have much experience mod debugging

[sweet crag]

if you haven't experienced the hell of 1.7.10 mod conflicts then consider yourself lucky

[sturdy pelican]

Name the buggiest VS2 add-on

[sweet crag]

if i had to put it down to one

of all the ones i tried

trackworks seems to conflict with the most other addons

sometimes assembly will fail with wheels attached

theres weird fixes for that ive tried

if you have the wheels to far apart they wont turn

in tandem that is

[humble kiln]

I’ve been here since before horses 💀

[sweet crag]

man

i feel bad if you went through that

orespawn was cool tho

still miss it ever since the dev went stupid or smth

[humble kiln]

My favourite mod was rival rebels by far

And ugocraft

[sturdy pelican]

I was gonna say Interactive but you probably haven't tried that

[sweet crag]

oh yeah i forgot about that

i actually did try it

and pretty much everything i tried with it was an issue

i tried making a rotator bearing for some thrusters

for a ship

and what happened was i couldnt interact with it, so i placed a interact me block

it was missing textures for some reason

when i tried interacting with it

it worked

but then

i tried turning on the thrusters (i was gunna steer them for like some stuff)

the game just crashed soooo

yeah

amazing

thats alpha mods ig

[humble kiln]

why do you feel bad

minecraft used to be so awesome

it could run on literally anything

[sweet crag]

id argue it still is actually

but not in the same way

[humble kiln]

not at all in the same way

[sweet crag]

hmmmmm no

[humble kiln]

But it’s probably me as well I changed a lot as a person

[sweet crag]

i can remember 1.7.10 and 1.12.2 chugging

recently with 1.20.1 when i started modding that versions

its been actually really smooth when modded

my steam deck can run split screen at 4k on my tv

with mods

[humble kiln]

Considering I used it on a dell latitude laptop from like 2010 it ran well enough

[sweet crag]

well yeah

modern graphics API's did their thing now

with more modern hardware (no matter how modest) you can expect it to work better

[humble kiln]

Remember when I wanted to get security craft’s keypad so I watched a DanTDM video and he crafted it with 9 buttons, so I tried but it didn’t work

[sweet crag]

brooooo

i remember those videos

[humble kiln]

and also I remember dragnoz and stampycat being a thing

[sweet crag]

i remember trying to install geochests on mcpe 💀

[humble kiln]

do you know dragnoz?

[sweet crag]

actually know

no*

i didnt know him

[humble kiln]

Search him up, wild command block creator

[sweet crag]

idk i was always way more interested in modded stuff

i probably would have gotten into mc on pc earlier

but i didnt have a pc only some crappy android tablet that i played mcpe on that i tottaly didnt get from some russian site

this was like 2014

[humble kiln]

first thing I ever made was a hotel made of oak logs and leaves in the middle of the ocean with a water elevator

and the reception desk’s only feature was a jukebox that played chirp

[sweet crag]

i used to have this thing of placing loads of fences around the world

and putting animals in pens

i found the world later

and it was SO LAGGY

idk what i was doin

i think it didnt lag on 0.7.4 cuz the culling was different

but yeah

thats why i build in the old style

thats the kinda mc i know

idk

[humble kiln]

yeah I feel you

I sometimes put on programmer art and just experience nostalgia

[sweet crag]

i usually play with pacp and nostalgic tweaks

[humble kiln]

Especially the glass, glow stone and netherrack

[sturdy pelican]

Nah stampycat still did vids until recently

[sweet crag]

i actually love the beta asthetic

like genuienly

[humble kiln]

well yeah but they never were as good as the first ones

[sweet crag]

i know much of it cuz of a old web series

im polish btw

[humble kiln]

Peak stampycat was wonder quest

[sweet crag]

so some polish youtubers did a whole story in minecraft or smth i dont exactly remember

and this was all in beta 1.8

i recently refound the old videos

and got

god*

the mic quality

you can hear the pc

[sturdy pelican]

По-русски говоришь?

[sweet crag]

and the skype quality

[humble kiln]

Like I remember I really wanted to get in the love garden but never got to making something because I never knew where to send it

[sweet crag]

only real ones remember skype 🔥

[humble kiln]

не е истина

[sweet crag]

yall both russian?

[humble kiln]

Im Bulgarian

[sturdy pelican]

No he speakin smh else

[sturdy pelican]

lol

[sweet crag]

i have a bulgarian friend, infact im litterally on a voice call with them rn

ironic

[humble kiln]

nice

everyone needs a Bulgarian friend

10/10

[sturdy pelican]

lol I do and I was born in 2009

[humble kiln]

don’t be pulling up with the modified Church Slavonic

[sweet crag]

im from poland but cursed to live in britain

theres only so much binley mega chippy a eastern european can take you know

[humble kiln]

I used to live in Britain when I was like 3

it’s actually my first language

[sturdy pelican]

I'm from Moscow but now I gotta live in Canada ._.

[sweet crag]

i love 2009 youtube videos with no context behind them

i found this on yt

uploaded 2009

[humble kiln]

Was definitely much better in 2011 than now

[sturdy pelican]

lmao is that a Lada?

[sweet crag]

polonez

[humble kiln]

no it’s a blyada

[sturdy pelican]

a

[humble kiln]

Also I have never seen a lada which has a curve different to 90 degrees

[sweet crag]

i beat my friend in what i call "crappy modded car racing"

[sturdy pelican]

Googled
So turns out they're both just rebranded Fiat cars

[sweet crag]

thats the fiat 126p and 125p

polonez is an inhouse car

it was produced by fabryka samohodow osobowy

FSO

[sturdy pelican]

Dam nice drifting

[sweet crag]

it was cheating

i used "oversteering assistant"

[sturdy pelican]

Oh

Damn

[sweet crag]

which basically controls the angle for u

i was on KB

i have a g920 wheel now

some specs about the car im driving in the vid. rear engined with rear wheel drive.
it had an open differential but i somehow didnt notice and still drifted it

[humble kiln]

eastern bloc never made an original car, except the pobeda

[sweet crag]

the FSO cars are original however borrowing third party parts for other car models

my grandad would know

cuz he had many friends who worked in producing these thigns

things*

he himself worked at a helicoper factory

as one of the engineering directors

[sturdy pelican]

Yeah turns out I just don't know much about cars, even if they're from my home country 💀
I just remember seeing smh like that when I was a kid and it looked very much like the soviet cars (no offense they're just both old and cheap (I think both are at least)

[sturdy pelican]

Ye I know that part
Kinda sad

[sweet crag]

https://embeds.video/https://cdn.replays.app/videos/1273837326/66cb7f079c041430700970.mp4

this game fun ngl

btw at 2:05 in the vid i timed an emp to the music lol

[sturdy pelican]

damn cool

[sturdy pelican]

should I do 360 rpm on my Civic

Cause it appears to handle well at that speed

[humble kiln]

Nah crank that shit up to 1280

[sturdy pelican]

which is ironic

Cause it's a Civic

😭

[sturdy pelican]

hell nah

If I'm going above 256, it gotta be worthy

i think 259 is fine

nah yk what I'mma change it back to the speed controller

[sweet crag]

how yall do that

the motor goes up to 256

you can multiply with gears

but any precise control above 256 how you do that?

[humble kiln]

Computercraft with rotational speed controller

I figured this out that you can set it to an arbitrary value with a computer

[sturdy pelican]

So what's the point of that one C&A block if it's not an interface between computer and rpm controller?

[humble kiln]

what block

[sturdy pelican]

This one

[humble kiln]

what does it do

[sturdy pelican]

uhhh this?

[sturdy pelican]

.

[humble kiln]

its literally a block that does the same CC:C Bridge does

[sturdy pelican]

so what's the point

[humble kiln]

there is none

[sturdy pelican]

Big brain time

[sturdy pelican]

damn

[sweet crag]

how you got the seat so shoved up against the lectern

[sweet crag]

while im not gunna fix the bad block choice on this, i did go back and make some improvments to the "truck"

moved back some things and changed the wheel placement

make it quite unstable so i gotta stiffen up the suspension