A very promising propeller fighter prototype Sk-14A

[sharp wren]

uses 2 5x5 propellers at 192 RPM, has very good maneuverability, but i plan to improve it more, or use better engines (with 256 RPM)

oh, btw it doesn't use any creative engines

it uses diesel

and no energy transfer things

compared to the Sk-12 (previous model), its really small

[onyx turret]

very nice, now make the landing gear retractable and the cocpit openable

btw how does it fly?

[sharp wren]

well cockpit is already openable - it uses framed glass trapdores

[sharp wren]

on the last two screenshots the propellers are not visible, but on the first one you can see them

[onyx turret]

By openable I mean like this

by how does it fly I mean a video

[sharp wren]

kinda hard to do on this small one

i'll try to make retractable gear and cockpit in the next model which is planned to be bigger and more powerful

[sharp wren]

okay i'll make one

[onyx turret]

definitely go bigger, you can always scale it with /vs scale

[sharp wren]

nah, i'm making the planes for survival combat, so i don't think commands are good way to build

that being said its still a prototype so i might change the wings

[onyx turret]

yeah, you dont need so much wings and flaps

[sharp wren]

wings for sure, considering the thrust the engines make, but flaps? i figured out the more flaps i make and the faster ship goes, the faster it rotates

or the rotation speed depends just on the aircraft speed?

[onyx turret]

it depends on both, but you get more roll from the flaps that are further away from the fuseladge

and the propellers are a bit of an overkill

[sharp wren]

are they tho?

[onyx turret]

they generate almost 1 milion kg of thrust

[sharp wren]

well the thing i noticed that it goes fairly similar to the 1-propelled ones

[sharp wren]

each powered by 3 diesel engines

[onyx turret]

no sry ~700k kg I thought they run at 256

[sharp wren]

at that one they run at 192, yes

(the upgraded diesel engine's speed)

[left tusk]

thrust... in mass... how could you...

[onyx turret]

oh, sorry I know its an oversimplification

[sharp wren]

[sharp wren]

i have this sk-12 aircraft with 256 RPM propeller

[sharp wren]

https://youtu.be/4yi9w9VOK3w

[onyx turret]

if the propeller has 4 sails radius its 307k at 5 sails its 460k

[lament quarry]

What about sliding forwards using a minecart contraption

[sharp wren]

that might work actually

i thought about using mechanical bearing

at least for gear

[lament quarry]

Idk if that's used on real fighter jets but might look cool

[sharp wren]

i'll try later

i'm so waiting for afterburners

[lament quarry]

They're not gonna be like actual jet engines tho
Just stuff that spews out hot air

[sharp wren]

yeah, but they will be compact and somewhat jet-looking, if they are going tob e the same as before

[lament quarry]

Although I guess irl jet engines spew out hot gas so it's not that much different...

[sharp wren]

i've seen jet aircrafts on youtube and i've come pretty close with speed/maneuverability

[lament quarry]

I've been thinking about a Clockwork add-on that would add modular jet engines that would be about as realistic as the engines from diesel gens
Only issue is idk how to code

[sharp wren]

i know how to code but im lazy to do real mods :D

[lament quarry]

You do know they usually fly at lower speeds for the camera, right?

[sharp wren]

i mean, clockwork ones

[lament quarry]

Oh that

[sharp wren]

like the f16 build you can find

[lament quarry]

Like there's even ideas for the different modules and everything, even VTOL stuff and turboprops

[lament quarry]

Which one

[sharp wren]

https://youtu.be/W1sIJZIX-qs?feature=shared

[sharp wren]

i thought about making vtol one too! but it would be propeller-based again, and considering how fast my planes take-off, its not very practical

[lament quarry]

No no I mean like for the mod, not clockwork builds

But that's p cool

[sharp wren]

i got it

[lament quarry]

Also nice Wheatley pfp lol

[sharp wren]

just shared my thoughts about vtol

[sharp wren]

its same since like 2021 or earlier

[lament quarry]

Yeah mine doesn't change often either, I did try changing it for like Christmas and stuff and changing it to different waffles, but that's about it

[sharp wren]

tomorrow i'll try to make two-engined one but with 256 RPM engines to see if it makes any difference

and probably try to use NTM's nukes to make tactical bombers

[lament quarry]

Btw what do you use for SU

[sharp wren]

SU?

speed upgrade?

[lament quarry]

Like what kinda generator do you use

[sharp wren]

diesel engines

[lament quarry]

SU stands for stress units

[sharp wren]

oh yeah, i completely forgot mb

[lament quarry]

Modular?

[sharp wren]

normal ones. i had some problems with modular ones, and i don't rally know how to fix it

[lament quarry]

Wait normal is the weakest one

And the least fuel efficient one

[sharp wren]

like, if i turn off the modular engine, steam particles will show up and the engine won't turn on unless broken and placed again

[sharp wren]

thats why i use 4 of them when doing 256 RPM

[lament quarry]

Steam particles mean over stressing I'm pretty sure

[sharp wren]

probably, but its strange

[lament quarry]

It's not the best looking cause it's by me, but it works

[sharp wren]

i need somewhere to put these rails tho

and how minecarts behave on physics-unfused objects?

[lament quarry]

It's fine as long as they don't go off-rails

[robust wren]

😳 where

[sharp wren]

?

[robust wren]

schematic

[sharp wren]

for the plane or cockpit by waffle?

[robust wren]

the 2

i mean

[lament quarry]

On this server, beings ask for schematics, spontaneously, out of nowhere, and disappear once again miraculously when one is given

[lament quarry]

wait so the cockpit?

[robust wren]

plane

[sharp wren]

yea i see the pattern, but i just didn't get for what schematic is asked

[sharp wren]

this plane i've done is still a prototype tho

[robust wren]

alrighg

ping me when schem

[sharp wren]

how about i better give you for another better-working one? or you need this exact one

oh yeah. he dissapeared

[lament quarry]

btw there's an add-on that's called tournament that adds redstone activated thrusters
Although they do kinda seem like cheating to me

[sharp wren]

yeah i checked that one out

buuut

it kinda sucks

[lament quarry]

So you came to the same conclusion?

[lament quarry]

Oh

[sharp wren]

yeah

i think having somewhat entity/contraption guidance would be awesome

for missiles and stuff

[lament quarry]

Pretty sure with some add-ons you can do that

And with like computercraft and stuff

I wish it was simpler, but that's pretty much the only way

[sharp wren]

damn

i wish opencomputers was on new versions

could use motion sensor/radar from computronics to make homing missiles

[lament quarry]

idk stuff about computer mods lol

I don't even know how to use computercraft

[sharp wren]

since im into coding and computer tech in general i do

computercraft is oversimplified in comparison with opencomputers

cmon, computers made of stone, glass panel and 1 redstone? absurd

[lament quarry]

What you want us to actually go through EVERYTHING used to create computers?

The sand? The silicon? The chips? And then coputer components like processors and stuff?

[sharp wren]

check out opencomputers. boy, you need to make computer case first, then add some CPU, GPU, HDD for storage and some RAM. then you attach a screen, a keyboard, and a disk driver. in that disk driver you put a floppy with OpenOS (default one), and supply the computer with power(the mod has built-in energy conventor from rf), then undergo the simple installation process and there you have it! i should mention that to make cpu you need to make CU, ALU and other chips and etc

yes its complicated and i love it.

i've even been working on making internet network in-minecraft! sadly kind of abandoded that one, but still

possibilities are endless

you can make your own OS, make a robot, write programs to control that robot wirelesly from a tablet... you get the point

[lament quarry]

man idk what a CU or an ALU is

I'm dumb sorry(

[sharp wren]

Control Unit and Arithmetic Logic Unit(chip that counts)

[sharp wren]

nah its alr

[sharp wren]

and in comparison, computercraft: craft a computer using 7 gold/stone, 1 glass panel and 1 redstone

and its already ready for use

but on modern versions, there are no alternatives...

[lament quarry]

So it's kinda like the difference between Create: Diesel Generators and Create: The Factory Must Grow?

[sharp wren]

honestly idk about factory must grow, my game never could run it

for some error

[lament quarry]

It's way more complicated and doesn't have a 1.18.2 port

[sharp wren]

yeah i see

[lament quarry]

So like one is complex and cool and the other is simple but also cool

TFMG is the complicated one

[sharp wren]

yea kinda the same dynmic with computercraft and opencomputers

[lament quarry]

Like the oil refining process is so much more complex, has like 8 different fluid made from oil while diesel gens only has gas and diesel

[sharp wren]

yep

[solemn adder]

YESSIR

[solemn adder]

what is the nosepiece called?

[fervent nymph]

Wait what diesel mod? I am using create: The Factory Must Grow and I was wondering if you are using Create: Diesel Generators instead.

[lament quarry]

They're using diesel gens

TFMG refused to run for them

[fervent nymph]

…

As in their game crashes or the engines don’t work with clockwork?

[fervent nymph]

Oh right thank you :).

[sharp wren]

It’s from the mod Create: Copycats+

[lament quarry]

Copycat beam

[toxic shard]

how did you do the engine part?

[lament quarry]

4 diesel engines, it's in the convo above

[sharp wren]

In this one there’s 3 upgraded ones each

[lament quarry]

oh ok

[solemn adder]

Damn that sucks bc tfmg is way stronger 😭

Esp with the 2x engines

[sharp wren]

[sharp wren]

i tried to make so blue-ish coloring

you can see where i took inspiration from this time

[lament quarry]

Butterfly

[solemn adder]

WAIT YOU CAN DYE THE WINGS

[sharp wren]

and lots of different tones too! you can mix colors

[solemn adder]

🤯

[lament quarry]

Yes for like half a year now

[solemn adder]

Holy shit

[sharp wren]

[lament quarry]

Actually more than half

[solemn adder]

Im practically a noob I last played back when this thing first hit off and nothings the same XDD (for the better)

[lament quarry]

Except afterblazers(

[solemn adder]

Is that the balloon stuff

[sharp wren]

i was kinda a noob too, but i figured it out on my own

[sharp wren]

no its like jet engine

:(

[solemn adder]

I see you as my future goal in terms of skills

[sharp wren]

i would like a jet engine :(

[solemn adder]

Fr

[sharp wren]

to make true jet fighters

[lament quarry]

It also liked to corrupt your world at some point lol

[sharp wren]

classic

once upon a time i got a corrupted world by a simple furnace from a mod xD

had to manually remove it via mc edit

time to make landing gear from scratch

[solemn adder]

Large cogs on spruce fences ftw

[sharp wren]

here's what i came up with

turned out to be simple

[sharp wren]

for two of them

[solemn adder]

W

[lament quarry]

Btw download Create: Connected, it could compact this so much more

[solemn adder]

Wait how

[onyx turret]

using 2 chain gearshifts on top of each other facing different directions would make it more compact, unless you need to keep it flat

[onyx turret]

with create connected you could use the brass gearshift to make it even more compact

[sharp wren]

yea i need it kind of flat

[onyx turret]

the brass gearshift from connected works like a normal gearshift except you can adjust each directions rotation output (clockwise or counterclockwise)

[lament quarry]

thx for explaining it for me

[onyx turret]

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