helo coptr

[rough blaze]

kinda works but on creative engines for now. schem tomorrow whenif i'll make it fly in a more controllable manner and fix some other things. used this datapack to reduce block weights #1187816867042181120 messagevideo

[fringe locust]

stabilized with

CC?

or just godlike engineering

[rough blaze]

gyro from cw

[pale grove]

This is sick

[dawn granite]

needs longer blades

also i challenge you to beat my 14 million kg record

[rough blaze]

it has 4 mechanical bearings from create with heavy blocks attached to them and a gyro, create contraptions don't have weights so to tilt forward i just stop the bearing at the front and deactivate gyro

[pale grove]

Wait

What gyro?

[rough blaze]

they added gyro to cw

[pale grove]

When wtf?

What am I missing

[rough blaze]

like

today

[pale grove]

@celest cape why don’t you announce features smh

[pale grove]

Thanks for the info

[zinc rampart]

Is that how heavy the helicopter was?

[fringe locust]

ahhh

will definitely be getting into some gunships in the near future in that case

[pale grove]

This changes everything

Epic

[dawn granite]

that's how much it could lift

[zinc rampart]

How did you calculate that?

[dawn granite]

uh

[zinc rampart]

One propeller bearing?

[dawn granite]

attached 14 million kg of weight to it

to be specific, added netherite until it couldn't ascend anymore

[rough blaze]

i will probably beat this hmmmm never because rn the most challenging part for me is to make it fly in a straight line

[zinc rampart]

So explain this challenge more thoroughly?

[dawn granite]

yeah, i noticed that too, i had to balance it using the tail rotor spinning at about 4 rpm

[dawn granite]

build a helicopter that lifts 14 million kg of cargo

this

[zinc rampart]

Has to be able to move about?

[dawn granite]

yes

but that's not hard

[rough blaze]

the problem here is not torque from rotor but all stuff that happens after it tilts

[dawn granite]

ohhhhh

[fading vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-wow-omg-lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-gif-7647770

[dawn granite]

yeah, mine doesn't tilt, i just have afterblazers

[rough blaze]

ahhhh

well that's not fair then

that's just like a vtol or something

[dawn granite]

i tried a few mechanisms similar to a swashplate, but not reliable enough

[rough blaze]

it's not reliable at all

even with gyro

[dawn granite]

thus why i use afterblazers

[rough blaze]

this thing just moves the centre of mass to whatever side i want it to move but sometimes it will just swing to the opposite side

[dawn granite]

yupppp

[rough blaze]

gyro just returns it to a stable position

[dawn granite]

yeahhhh

it's a little wonky

i don't consider afterblazers cheating for that reason

[rough blaze]

it's not cheating its just not what i want (it's not a helo coptr)

[dawn granite]

fair lol

[rough blaze]

gato

[zinc rampart]

Isn’t there something really goofy going on with lift in vs? Like flaps give more lift, and using a physics bearing gives more lift than a propeller bearing?

[severe plaza]

Schem today

[rough blaze]

first one is not most likely not true (idk i didn't check) and here i used wings not flaps

strangest thing about propellor bearings is that it sent 2 of my helicopters today into another dimension one of which was intended as survival friendly

[dawn granite]

yes, flaps give more lift than prop bearings

that's how i can lift 14 million kg with a helicopter

[zinc rampart]

So using flaps and physics bearings will give more lift than wings/sails and propeller bearings?

[calm echo]

bruh

[zinc rampart]

Like I know vs is janky but that janky?!

[dawn granite]

yessss

also it gives you more control than sails

i believe it mostly works bc sails are less efficient next to other sails?

[fringe locust]

i may have accidentally perpetuated that lie

[zinc rampart]

I may have to rant about datapacks

[dawn granite]

oh, probably, you told it to me when i first joined so i believed it lol

[fringe locust]

not only that but i said it in my 85k viewed plane tutorial 😭

[zinc rampart]

So which is better flap, sail, or wing?

[fringe locust]

assuming you mean use in a propeller i'm still a sail man

[dawn granite]

oh-

[fringe locust]

just never got into the habit of using wings

[dawn granite]

yes lol

[dawn granite]

for helicopter rotors

for plane props, sails

for rotors, flaps

[fringe locust]

fs

[zinc rampart]

Where are the CC people, there’s testing to be done! (I’ve never touched CC nor Lua)

[novel meteor]

What?

[fringe locust]

my reaction exactly

[zinc rampart]

Pun?

[rough blaze]

gyro

[novel meteor]

What mod

[dawn granite]

clockwork

[dawn granite]

blud did not get the news

[tender lark]

Probably the best control you can get out of a rotor without cyclic, or other thrusters

Unless the gyro can be made to stabilise toward a certain tilt

[dawn granite]

it can, if you put it on a physics bearing, but that takes up space

[tender lark]

Doing 2axis control on that would be way too big

[dawn granite]

why would you want two axis controll lol

[tender lark]

...so the helicopter can strafe sideways?

Do people look at helicopters like they're glorified planes? Smh

[dawn granite]

i'll be real, i build utility helicopters

[rough blaze]

it can but you can only effectively have one per ship bc when i change angle on one all other ones are set to this same angle too even if it's not rotating

[rough blaze]

when i first saw you can put it at an angle i thought i would place 4 of them at 45 degrees (bc that's the smallest angle you can set it at) and connected to same rpm via redstone resistors so the angle i want helicopter to tilt is proportional to a difference in rotation speed of gyros

ik this is totally not how gyro works irl

[serene holly]

wait

wings can make stuff fly?

[fading vapor]

Blud

[serene holly]

i meant like

if you spin the wings

instead of using sails

[fading vapor]

Its the same principle as wings generating lift when going at high speeds

But instead of going in 1 direction

[serene holly]

yeah but does it work in minecraft

[fading vapor]

I mean in Minecraft

Im not talking abt irl

[serene holly]

yeah i know propellers are just wings

[fading vapor]

Blud

[serene holly]

i thought they didnt work

in mc

[fading vapor]

Somebody come get this kid

😭🙏

[serene holly]

bro what

they're like angled wings

[fading vapor]

Flaps i think then

[tender lark]

This aint minecraft this is VS2

[pale grove]

It’s a whole other universe

[spare quarry]

what does gyro do im lost

[coarse glen]

it stabilizes ships

[rough blaze]

soo after all i'd say that it's decent(???) even. i replaced bearings with powered balloons from tournament, it works in the same way but much more compact and customizable. also combined yaw and roll just because its not that maneuverable anyway but this can be easily undone

and also you should use this datapack (i added some custom weights for some blocks from dreams and desires) or just rebalance the heli, center of mass should be under main rotor

[tawny obsidian]

the schematic is I think partially assembled and did not save correctly

[light frost]

is thier schematics for stuff like this?

[dawn granite]

my guy

[light frost]

im blind my bad

[dawn granite]

literally two messages above urs

[light frost]

i saw the top of the msg wall

mb

[jolly mesa]

Quick question: Do datapacks still work if some items in the datapack are not in the game?

or do i need to delete all items that arent in my game

[zinc rampart]

It should work unless said items are essential to the build

[jolly mesa]

So if i dont have computercraft will the datapack still work

because it changes the weight for datapack items, but those items arent in my game

and some clockwork items arent in the recent clockwork build but are in the datapack