Create Tweaked controllers : The advanced input Update

[daring kite]

Available now is the newest update for my mod
This update allows you to use the controller with a lot more devices, not just gamepads !
You cand bind any key and any axis to your keyboard, mouse buttons, cursor movement and even other input methods such as joystick, flight controllers, hotas, etc...
CurseForge : https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/create-tweaked-controllers
GitHub : https://github.com/getItemFromBlock/Create-Tweaked-Controllers
Wiki : https://github.com/getItemFromBlock/Create-Tweaked-Controllers/wiki

Feel free to ask if you have any questions

Also link to the original post : https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1137055955796897816

[surreal fern]

Oh wow

nice timing

[west sinew]

sigma

[daring kite]

Next update : Create 0.5.1

[gloomy matrix]

Typing to put myself in this thread

[ionic whale]

same

[daring kite]

Also there's French translations for the two people out there playing in French

[tender veldt]

pog

[daring kite]

Yes I was thinking of you

[elfin obsidian]

this is amazing, thank you so much

[daring kite]

Also I am interested to see how well this works with non-gamepad devices like wheels or hotas (I don't have theses)

[steady violet]

my first thought was a fight stick for some reason

[daring kite]

Or a flight stick

[steady violet]

in a dogfight and the enemy inputs 632146HS wyd

[daring kite]

a cogfight ?

would be more fitting

[elfin obsidian]

mario kart wii steering wheel controller support?

[daring kite]

If it's a wiimote, then no (that's sad, but this would requires some dark magic)

The problem with wiimotes is that they would require a custom library to read the inputs

That's why I said that wiimotes aren't supported in the mod description

Now I have heard that Linux has a default driver for wiimotes, but I have never tested it and from what I've heard it does not handle motion controls and extensions

Now I don't exclude the possibility that I will write a custom library to handle wiimotes (someday ), but if I do it's gonna be in c++ and probably not for this mod

[elfin obsidian]

i was joking

[daring kite]

Okay my bad

[last reef]

b

[crude hinge]

#1137055955796897816 message I'm stupid I've literally already downloaded this mod from curseforge earlier

[elfin obsidian]

@daring kite hey man, so mouse joystick input isn't working for me atm

instead of moving the joystick on the controller it just makes you look around like normal

[west sinew]

thats an issue with your controller

its being recognized as a mouse and not a gamepad

and so GLFW wont recognize it

[elfin obsidian]

nah nah nah i dont have a controller

i mean i have a mouse

and i'm using the mouse movement input in the ingame emulator

and it isn't working

[west sinew]

i forgor

[elfin obsidian]

oh i figured it out

its the grab keybind thing

you know thats not at all obvious

[maiden nacelle]

FINALLY??

I've been waiting for this day 🙏🙏🙏

[icy oracle]

slight issue, right clicking to bind binds the link to the right click button

other than that, i fucking love this

[strange sinew]

This looks great for single controller setup for a full plane!

[quasi epoch]

i think, i have to buy a controller now

[tribal wyvern]

finally someone did it

oh wait its only controllers

;OWU A45GP8W JEBR'/;E4FFDP ]VG

[daring kite]

I will update the wiki to make it more obvious

[daring kite]

Saw that when testing and then somehow forgot about it, I will see how to fix this

[crude hinge]

Would be great if Q and E would replace U and I as buttons, for yaw control

[daring kite]

You mean an irl controller ? Because this update literally add keyboard and mouse support

[daring kite]

You can always change them in the advanced mode

Unless you mean by default

[crude hinge]

Oh you can change it? Great! Does it disable opening inventory and dropping items?

[daring kite]

Yes it does

[crude hinge]

Amazing

[daring kite]

I think I wrote it somewhere on the wiki

[crude hinge]

And Warthunder yaw is controlled by Q and E too, so I think alot of people would appreciate it being default but I’m not sure

Oh cool I’m gonna actually read the wiki today

[daring kite]

I might update the default layout at some point, to be honest it's the debug layout that ended up as the default

[crude hinge]

Cool!

[daring kite]

Also I had to do some sussy stuff to do the key-disabling stuff, but note that there is a slight chance that this does not work on some modded keybinds

[tribal wyvern]

oh i thought it was for irl controler

[daring kite]

I said it in the first message of the post, the update aims to add support for mouse, keyboard and a lot of devices like hotas or flight joysticks

[winged radish]

same

[drifting beacon]

sup

[daring kite]

Hello there

[humble blade]

im stupid so how do u make mouse control like war thunder has for planes and helis

[daring kite]

There is a tutorial for mouse controls on the wiki, tell me if that's good for what you want

[humble blade]

i think that'll work

[tepid tide]

holy shit how have i not seen this

👍 well made

[gloomy matrix]

cracks knuckles in expanded submarine controls

[neat sun]

I cant wait until someone makes something cool with this mod
but then i need a controller that doesnt break the mod to work

[west sinew]

someone already did

[neat sun]

where?

[west sinew]

Random made a video

made a heli

[sullen pond]

this is awesome

[lilac lichen]

Hmm

Hmm

[neat sun]

ok golem is just deleting my messages with the link #1137585562774147166 message
and only deletes them when i say how i cant use them

[west sinew]

it hates edited links

cuz discord exploit for getting servers nuked

[neat sun]

hey does anyone want to try and make a platformer/game with this? (problalbly with immerserive portals and definetly with commands)

[civic shadow]

What is the version of Minecraft for this mod

[west sinew]

1.18.2

create 0.5.0.i

[civic shadow]

Ok tank

[surreal fern]

It doesnt show up elp

[daring kite]

what does not show up ?

[daring kite]

.

[surreal fern]

The mod, I think I installed it correctly and it's registered in at launcher, but it didn't show up when lsunched

[gloomy matrix]

@surreal fern Wdym "showed up", what shows up for other mods for comparison

[surreal fern]

In modmenu

[daring kite]

Do you have the correct MC version ?

do you have forge ?

[daring kite]

I updates the wiki a little bit to make it more obvious that you need to use the keybinds with mouse controls

[daring kite]

Okay so I have made 2 small improvements :

• I made it that you need to let down your use key (right mouse) in bind mode before the controller search for inputs to bind
• I added an option to make the "focus mouse cursor" (left alt) act as a toggle

The first thing is to make it that the controller will not instant bind to your use key if it is the same as some input on the controller

The above stuff will be for next update

[elfin obsidian]

great!

[crude hinge]

Can you also make a toggle which changes if the mouse joystick control either does or doesn't reset automatically?

Like, if you need to press R or not.

[daring kite]

Oh good idea

I will make this

[crude hinge]

great!

[daring kite]

I am working on a small cosmetic improvement, you will be able to change the visual layout to xbox/playstation/nintendo

This will not change the global layout (joystick positions) but instean change the symbols and colors

both in the gui and on the item

Also I already implemented the "don't reset mouse cursor controls" option

[cedar onyx]

this is interesting

[daring kite]

Okay so I think I will make 2 updates: one with the above changes, and one with the above changes AND compatible with Create 0.5.1+

Because it does not seem that CW will update soon to 0.5.1

[west sinew]

the update to 0.5.1 will occur when the mega update is released

[daring kite]

Yeah I saw that, also I think potato said it was not before September iirc ?

[daring kite]

The first update is available

[daring kite]

victory

[daring kite]

And the second update (for Create 0.5.1+) is available too !

[neat sun]

hey, what does changing the visual layout actually do?
i throught it would only change the color of the buttons and what buttons are pressed visually pressed
but i think it does something wiht keybinds that might make a problem to someone who leaves instruction in "xbox" and somone who uses nintendo tries to use them

[daring kite]

It changes the colors in the item and in the GUI, and also change the button names in the gui (this is more obvious when you set it to playstation)

The idea is that you set it as your actual controller (if you have one)

But this does not change the binding internally, this is just visual stuff

[neat sun]

ok
im just worried that an "A" for an xbox player translate to a "B" for a nintendo player

[daring kite]

If you have a Nintendo controller and set it to xbox, the mod will show a xbox layout in-game
And if you then set the mod layout to be Nintendo, the mod willm show a Nintendo layout (accurate to your controller) but it will not change the actual layout

so for example, if you had set your bindings to match your controller (like swapping the A/B and X/Y buttons) theses will not change when switching mode

That's also why there is a visual output when you bind a button on the controller display (in the controller settings)

this is to help people differentiate between their actual controller and the one in-game

[neat sun]

alright, also if anyone else is trying to use this mod plus a nintendo switch pro controller, here is the issue i made about it https://github.com/getItemFromBlock/Create-Tweaked-Controllers/issues/1
tl:dr, use GloSi, required steam, use custom bindings as the regular binding dont match the positions of the buttons being pressed to the in-game controller or dont match up at all, including names of the buttons and the positions of the buttons being pressed

[fading shore]

WOAH

[tribal wyvern]

my potato cant run the latest mod update

ples notice us potatoes

we are useful

[west sinew]

[tribal wyvern]

my french fries of a pc cant run the thing

mod

[west sinew]

skull tissue

[daring kite]

The latest update is for Create 0.5.1+

[daring kite]

Do you use the correct version of the mod ?

This is not like the mod requires a lot of resources

[tribal wyvern]

am taking the latest version from the link u sent

[tribal wyvern]

OH

OH

OH

wow am dumb]

[daring kite]

I wrote it in the changelog, but I realise I forgot to update the main mod page 😅

[tribal wyvern]

works

mod is fire bro

[daring kite]

Thanks !

[daring kite]

I added explicit support for the Controllable mod. This was required, because my way of blocking inputs (such as camera movements) was simply not working

So if you use Controllable with my mod, all of the inputs except the use keybind will be taken over when you use the tweaked controller.
If you want to stop using the controller, press the use button (a tooltip appears for this when you use the controller)

[abstract plume]

Oh my god oh my god its happening

[daring kite]

Okay, 2 things :

• I tested this on my phone (with Pojav launcher) and it did not work. I had to edit some things to prevent a crash (and also I found a bug 😅) but by the end I cannot read anything from the gamepad, even if it is detected. At least it does not crash
• A very kind person made a Korean translation, I don't speak this language but this seems great. Now you can use this language

[crude hinge]

Any need for more translations? I can do dutch

[ionic whale]

I can do estonian

[crude hinge]

wanted to make an estonia joke but I know literally nothing about that country lol

[ionic whale]

I sent the estonian flag emoji once ( 🇪🇪 ) and some mf deadass replied "queen deltarune"

[daring kite]

Please do as you want, I will accept any extra translations

I only speak english and french (and a very little german) so thats not like I can do it anyway

[daring kite]

https://www.mcmod.cn/class/11940.html I just discovered this

[daring kite]

I am impressed, they took the time to translate and adapt to their website (like editing the links to match their version of the thing)

[daring kite]

1.19.2 version is out

[lilac lichen]

L

[daring kite]

💀

[lilac lichen]

oops, sorry bout that @daring kite

@tender veldt is being funny

[daring kite]

Yeah I saw that on the Minecraft channel

[sharp saddle]

steam input api

[abstract plume]

is this also configurable to keys on the keyboard?

ping me

[daring kite]

Yes, go to the advanced input mode config (or read the corresponding entry in the wiki)

[daring kite]

This does not work ?
Maybe its a setting in the steam api, but I can't really do anything when the controller is not detected

[abstract plume]

k ill look into this mod

[sharp saddle]

we have steam api now??

thought you were still using glfw

[daring kite]

No, but steam is supposed to send inputs in a way that GLFW can catch

so that's why Im asking

[tame charm]

There's a joke in the former USSR republics about how Estonians are slow, but I don't know the origin of the joke

[crude hinge]

ok ok lemme make a joke

[crude hinge]

I will ask my grandchildren to tell my grave when you're done

[ionic whale]

Skull i forgor

[ionic whale]

That joke exists but i have no clue how that makes sense

[tame charm]

Me neither, I only found out about the joke from a countryballs animator that always animates Estonia in slow motion no matter how fast the other characters move

[neat sun]

you should put this on modrinth

[tame charm]

So turns out the Estonian language has a lot of repeating letters and other stuff that forces the speaker to speak slower, so to someone who is used to a language that is typically spoken faster this might sound... too slow and monotonous (no offense, just saying that languages can be different)
Also there is a stereotype that Estonians don't get jokes, I can't know since I've never spoken to an Estonian
Those two things combined and you get jokes like "Estonian paratroopers are flying over a city for over three days"

I am sorry if that was offensive, this is literally from an explanation I found on the internet

[surreal fern]

I love linguist quirk

[ionic whale]

Nah it's not offensive lol

Dw

[daring kite]

Is there a reason for that, or do you just dislike curseforge ?
Im not trying to be rude, just asking

[neat sun]

i just think that way it can reach mor3 peole

[daring kite]

Maybe later then

[crude hinge]

Modrinth is just an objectively better website in nearly every single way

[ionic whale]

Ye

[daring kite]

Fine

Except a Modrinth page soon

[daring kite]

💀

[crude hinge]

Nice!

[daring kite]

Honestly the website feels better to use than Curseforge, I understand why I heard people saying that it is more adapted to modern Minecraft modding than Curseforge

Now we just wait for the review

[gloomy matrix]

It may take a week or so currently

But before the recent scares, it was only a few days

[daring kite]

Its not that bad, we can wait

[daring kite]

uh

okay, one week has passed apparently

so

https://modrinth.com/mod/create-tweaked-controllers

[west sinew]

damn thats crazy

[crude hinge]

wait you can make money with making mods?

[gloomy matrix]

Yea, but revenue is relatively low on official sites so to try to make more money your mod has to be really popular, have a separate way to get money (donations), and/or be hosted on your own site plastered with ads

[crude hinge]

me omw to make 13 cents per week

[daring kite]

Unless you make something that becomes very popular, you will not make a lot of money with mods, even with donations
Making mods just to make money is not a good idea, like a lot of things
That's also why a lot of mods (old ones) are abandoned/progressing slowly. People creating mods are making this in their free time

I don't even know if people making mods like JEI are living of it

[last reef]

minecoin.

[daring kite]

That's probably better (for the money part)

[boreal flare]

OH sick my idea!!!!!

it so cool to see this implimented :)

if you ever need models or other art assets let me know! I'd love to help out

[daring kite]

Hello !
I am not an artist, but I usually try to make things by myself
There is not really a need for new assets right now, but I don't know if I will need new assets in the future

[lyric fog]

how do i mkae this work on create 0.5.0i

nvm

[gloomy matrix]

good for you my man!

[daring kite]

It was harder than I planned, in particular because I had to reimplement a lot of stuff that would otherwise collide with Create's ComputerCraft implementation

I will see if I can manage to make a "full precision" mode where you can get the axis with full precision (instead of being a redstone signal casted to a float)

[lyric fog]

why cant i find the tweaked controller in the creative inventory

oh wait is this mod forge not fabric

[daring kite]

yes this mod is for fabric forge

I don't have enough knowledge to made a multiloader version

at least not currently

[daring kite]

full precision mode is working

I also added events when a player start/stop using the controller

Now its time to port this on the 1.19 branch

[gloomy matrix]

if its 1.19.3+, CC:R was dropped and CC:T went multiloader

@daring kite

[daring kite]

its 1.19.2, Create does not support 1.19.3-4 (or there is no version for it)

Also I only use CC:T because of this not being multiloaded

[gloomy matrix]

ah k

[uneven turtle]

Your mod saved my goddam Live man 👌

[fathom skiff]

Does this work on fabric?

[daring kite]

No

[fathom skiff]

Dam, is it planed to be?

[daring kite]

I don't really know, some stuff was planned, in particular with HeisenBerg1982's mod (https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1126141328720412772) but I think he was busy with other things

I don't have the required knowledge to learn Fabric, and I don't really have that much time to work on the mod either
Making a fabric version would require multiloading the mod, which I am pretty sure would require a lot of rewriting stuff to do

Its not to say that it will never happen, but its not a priority

[crude hinge]

Well, if I’m bored and decide to continue it, I’ll probably do it in fabric to fill the gap

[maiden nacelle]

how do you access the advanced control menu? (i forgot)

[daring kite]

You have to click on the mod's config button to acess the mod config

[daring kite]

If the advanced controls menu button is grayed out, you need to enable advanced input mode in the general settings

[sharp saddle]

Steam input when

[maiden nacelle]

about this

the pack I was on just didnt have the update

💀

[daring kite]

Make an issue on github, so that we can discuss it better (and also lower the chances of me forgetting)

[maiden nacelle]

like straight up steam controller input or?

[worthy lily]

Yo

Trying to link up a Hotas and wondering how I can get the axis to work

the wiki didnt help ,e

me

oh nvm

its not compatible

eh

[daring kite]

Sad
Does it work on your computer ?

[worthy lily]

Nah

[abstract plume]

hotas? hands on throttle and stick?

[worthy lily]

Yes

[daring kite]

For what is it supposed to work with ?

[worthy lily]

Ummmm. A computer?

[daring kite]

But like what, a specific game ?
I am asking because if it requires some sort of custom driver then I probably can't do anything, but if it can be used more or less like a generic controller them I might have fucked up somewhere

[worthy lily]

Dcs, war thunder

Msfs

[daring kite]

🤔
Do you have the model in mind ?

[worthy lily]

X56

Logitech

[daring kite]

Are you on windows ?

https://www.logitech.com/assets/65324/x56-hotas.pdf

From the use manual it is said that it should work

Page 22

But It might require some config

Also just to be sure, you did enable advanced input mode, right ?

[worthy lily]

Yes

I can’t figure out how to get it to detect and choose the hotas’ movements

[daring kite]

try with Controllable, and tell me if it works

It might be something in my mod

[dark vale]

this looks really cool

[paper ridge]

So long and short of it, I can plug my PS4 controller into my computer and use the controller in game with this correct?

[daring kite]

Yes

[hexed kraken]

Fabric (1.18.2 for clockwork) when

[hexed kraken]

Wait huh

I couldn't find a version for clockwork

[west sinew]

look harder

mfw clockwork is litterally built off the fabric version of create as the main source

[hexed kraken]

I'm asking about a fabric 1.18.2 build of tweaked controllers that I can use with clockwork (so no create 0.5.1 dependency)

I only see forge releases on modrinth

And on curseforge, too

[west sinew]

oh im a dipshit i forgor what thread i was in, sorry

ye idk whwre fabric controller is

[hexed kraken]

:(

[hexed kraken]

:)

[daring kite]

oops sorry no fabric version

I just realized now that my message was incorrect

[tender veldt]

Good

[hexed kraken]

:(

[hexed kraken]

Bad

t. modloader agnostic mod enjoyer

[tender veldt]

Fabric sucks

[daring kite]

Well this was correct, and its still the case

And its not like I have a lot of time to work on the mod currently

[surreal fern]

it would be cool if someone port it to multiloader version

[hexed kraken]

Forge is slow and unnecessarily abstract

[west sinew]

counterpoint: actual content mods

[hexed kraken]

counterpoint: modern industrialization

[west sinew]

no clue what that is, sounds bad 🤡

[hexed kraken]

Fabric is newer by like 8+ years, obviously it's not going to have as many mods yet 🤡

[west sinew]

bad excuse

forge was rewritten from ground up the same time fabric was becoming a thing

[hexed kraken]

Do you know how long it took for risugami users to move to forge?

I do admit that that isn't a very good comparison since the state of the game was just so different back then

But it still took quite a while

[west sinew]

also fabric was 2018

[hexed kraken]

Fabric only became popular in 2020

Just like how forge took a good year to get usable too

[west sinew]

thats still 3 years

what point are you trying to make

[hexed kraken]

Vs forge's 8+

[west sinew]

forge is not forge

[hexed kraken]

Brand recognition is important as well, and forge's brand is quite big

[west sinew]

fabric has had half a decade

[hexed kraken]

Minecraft's code has had many overhauls over the years as well, this isn't exclusive to forge nor fabric

[hexed kraken]

And it's already quite popular

And ever-growing

[west sinew]

fabric mfs care too much about performance which means it lacks substance

why have 300 fps if i cant have all my fav shit tech mods

https://tenor.com/view/there's-nothing-we-can-do-gif-14390726165144583214

[hexed kraken]

That's mostly just a skill issue on the developers' side

Modern industrialization is a clear example of a fat tech mod that's performant and good

[west sinew]

does it have any content

[hexed kraken]

It's just that there aren't as many well established fabric tech mods that get ported to newer versions

[hexed kraken]

It's gregtech but built to be less ass

So yes

It has the same amount of content as gtce

Which is a lot

A standard playthrough would run you about 80 hours

[hexed kraken]

This is mostly how ae2, mekanism, gregtech and thermal expansion exist

Big mods included in loads of packs that get popular and picked up by other modders when the original one gets bored of working on it

Fabric is only just starting to get this opportunity now

Whereas forge has had it for over 8 years

You should compare the spec they both offer and ask new modders who've used both which was less asinine to make a mod with

I fully agree that choosing the right tool for the job is the biggest priority and that including your own biases in this can make it hard to make these choices

I still use forge

But I also use fabric

[daring kite]

Performances in Minecraft is a joke
Minecraft doesn't even use mesh, every vertices has to be sent from the CPU each frame
Now it is pleasant to see a modloader which is more oriented toward performances but this is not free

IIRC Fabric give you way less things like helper functions

Which can make porting more difficult

[west sinew]

smh

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-satisfactory-patrick-bateman-hop-on-gif-26085886

[hexed kraken]

Satisfactory is fun

[tender veldt]

Fabric has "better performance" because there isn't a single mod to load

You're comparing vanilla to actual mods

[hexed kraken]

You're objectively wrong and you know it

[tender veldt]

Nope

Fabric is garbage

Fabric supporters are muppets

[maiden nacelle]

🤔

[surreal fern]

The problem with no content in fabric is because people has been manipulated into forge

All youtube series out there will be promoting forge mod

Mcreator porpusefully only support forge

People's damnation over fabric

And general standard that is much more stable which is why it still hasn't moved yet

Fabric need bigger momentum than they ever had

So that people can permanently move to fabric

And live better life

Grrr

But how it is now, I see that it won't be possible

It is very sad that fabric modloader cannot be the ultimate modloader, the absolute modloader

But it's in vain as big forge has been quickly silencing any attempt at revolution, cursing us and making us the bad guy

Posting propaganda about how good forge system is while making a lie on how bad fabric system is

This government must be stopped

But al of this need to be started by acceptance, by the good merit and critical thinking, enough of the propaganda and see the brighter future

Both of us in beautiful lake reflecting the sun that is fabric

So what's your option, blue pill or red pill?

[west sinew]

mcreator is ass, never speak its name in my presence again you mortal FOOL

[gloomy matrix]

@west sinew you wanna know a funny?

[west sinew]

no

jk

[gloomy matrix]

Constant did look into making an MCreator plugin for VS2 till they realized they would need to fix it to be a VS2 addon in the gradle files

[west sinew]

nahhhhh

all respect lost

[tender veldt]

🤥

fabric is trash

running slander campaign against forge

so people will download viruses off of malwarerinth

[ionic whale]

I could try gradling

I mean

Mcreator is a sin and an affront to humanity but

Fnuuy

[hexed kraken]

Don't do it

It's not worth the funny

[stuck skiff]

Could the mod come to fabric 1.19.2?

[tender veldt]

No

Fabric is pure trash

[surreal fern]

Everything he says is backward

[tender veldt]

Everything they say is backwards

doesnt matter

one of us is lying

[surreal fern]

?eno ekil kool I oD

[unreal lodge]

insane if it woks well, good work

[crude hinge]

Works well!