@solemn jewel wanted a tutorial for using computercraft in clockwork so here's a tutorial in using the other VS mods with clockwork
#Valkyrien Skies Tutorial
fringe wren
native wren
I simulated doing a barrel roll now!! Thanks!!
wet raft
I know
waxen swan
did you spell the link wrong 🥶
hollow tide
Are you rats seriously trolling innocent students that come here seeking knowledge? CC gatekeeping rats are seriously the worst.
In 5 years, programmers and script kiddies will be wiped off the face of the Earth by AI, rendering their existence utterly irrelevant. Smug little fuckers and their insufferable superiority complex. These tools actually go out of their way to gimp their own workflow with a dogshit interface and scripting language and then lecture the uninitiated about how smart they are.
Pathetic, really. But you know what? These hyenas will wither away like decrepit old-world Luddites as AI effortlessly surpasses them in a decade, if not less. The ecstasy I'll experience when I witness these piggies squeal in anguish as AI excretes a brand new coding language every 5 minutes. Languages that will be entirely incomprehensible to their puny little minds. Finally, the realm of modding will ascend to a new golden era, unclouded by human ego. Gatekeeping, developer dickriding, and modding constraints will be a thing of the past .
We shall revel in a glorious public modflix forum repository, where the worth and popularity of mods will be dictated solely by mass appeal and democratic vote instead of catering to the whims of repulsive code goblins on github. Then, their precious computer science degrees will be worth nothing more than toilet paper. A fitting end, truly.
waxen swan
- thats totally a copypasta lmfao
- ai not gonna replace programmers if it carrys on like it is now (it's shit at coding)
solemn jewel
RICKROLLS ARE NOT FUCKING FUNNY
solemn jewel
IM TRYING TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THE COMPUTER MOD CAN BE INTEGRATED WITH CLOCKWORK BUT I ONLY GET THOSE STUPID VIDEOS AND I AM SO FUCKING TIRED
bright yokeBOT
solemn jewel
I NEED HELPP
NOT THE STUPID RICKROLL AAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH I WILL BEAT YOU TO DEATH(in Minecraft with clockwork)
waxen swan
i got real help for you
not even a joke
#about-cc-vs prob has some help @solemn jewel
solemn jewel
okay
waxen swan
@solemn jewel i'm actually trying to help you 🥶
solemn jewel
thanks
waxen swan
np
solemn jewel
but no more fucking rickrolls or i will literally commit suicide(in Minecraft)
waxen swan
wouldn't it be funny if tetrode put a rickroll in there 🥶
nah
thats from the actual dev of the mod so i doubt it
hollow tide
1. thats totally a copypasta lmfao
2. ai not gonna replace programmers if it car...
Its actually oc believe it or not. Over the past 6 months i have just grown such a strong hatred for the clockwork community in general. People being what seems to be intentionally being vague on how do things involving cc because they assume everyone and their grandma knows lua, or needs to learn it.
I get the feeling that they dont share or make proper guides because some of the folks who showcase their builds want people with no lua cc knowledge to feel jealous.
Try telling them that cc PID is technically cheating, and they'll scoff but the same people will laugh at you for using a eureka helm. The only difference is a few lines of code copy pasted. My home server dropped eureka in its second season but left cc, and now nobody else but computercrafters get priority queue with PID controls.
it's super annoying, and that's why this post rubbed me the wrong way, it's like rubbing salt in the wound
solemn jewel
Its actually oc believe it or not. Over the past 6 months i have just grown such...
YOU CAN MAKE A PID CONTROLLER WITH CLOCKWORK????
solemn jewel
Its actually oc believe it or not. Over the past 6 months i have just grown such...
lmao who uses eureka helms
waxen swan
?????
barely anybody here knows lua
cc pid is obvs not cheating
nobody really cares about you using eureka
hollow tide
But they were adequate
waxen swan
infact tons of people here recommend using the helm as stabilization who are having trouble 🥶
can't beleive bro getting so mad over a rickroll
solemn jewel
NO
I HATE RICKROLLS
I AM TRYING TO STOP MY PLANE FROM ROLLING
NOT TRYING TO GET RICKROLLED
waxen swan
ik
solemn jewel
infact tons of people here recommend using the helm as stabilization who are hav...
helms are fine but pid controllers are better
can someone give me a tutorial on how to make a pid controller in lua
waxen swan
but this guy deadass over here writing a 10 page essay about how the communtiy is toxic jsut cause he got tricked by a rick roll 🥶
solemn jewel
or will i have to figure it out muyself
hollow tide
But it is toxic
solemn jewel
but this guy deadass over here writing a 10 page essay about how the communtiy i...
the comunity is toxic
hollow tide
Everyone is sarcastic and ironic to a fault
waxen swan
idk but ask snowy poff they are a god at cc
solemn jewel
Everyone is sarcastic and ironic to a fault
lol
waxen swan
But it is toxic
mad cos bad
hollow tide
Nobody actually teaches anyone anything or explains anything, they just say "get gud" "skill issue"
Lol I've probably built better ships than you
waxen swan
???
i'm literally here like all day telling people how to do stuff and fixing support issues 🥶
alot of others are too
waxen swan
Lol I've probably built better ships than you
nah ur mad cos ur bad at not getting gotten by rickrolls
solemn jewel
Lol I've probably built better ships than you
you probably use creative motors lol
waxen swan
i have made an oath to never use creative motors even if it's just decoration for a map
after doing that i found out i was suprisingly good at create
hollow tide
No lol, full on frosting engine arrays with a tighter compactness then your moms bootyhole.
solemn jewel
after doing that i found out i was suprisingly good at create
CREATIVE MOTORS LOOK WEIRD
and dont blend in
solemn jewel
No lol, full on frosting engine arrays with a tighter compactness then your moms...
frosting engine lmao
waxen swan
no i mean even when hidden i refuse to use them
solemn jewel
tehcnechally you can get something which is like a creative motor in survival by making an infinite steam engine
waxen swan
imagine using frosting engine when you can jsut make an automatically refueling boiler 😎
hollow tide
I have both btw
solemn jewel
i unapoligetically drive users who use creative motors and eureka helms to suicide
(in Minecraft)
waxen swan
bro says the community is toxic then starts flexing how good he is over a little joke i made (you aren't exactly helping the toxic problem bro)
hollow tide
Point is that computer crafters think that there's an additional layer of skill involved in using lua to cheese clockwork physics. I'm saying that there isn't, and it's just an additional layer of coding to make script kiddies feel good.
solemn jewel
Point is that computer crafters think that there's an additional layer of skill ...
script kiddies
THERE IS NO PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE PID CONTROLLER CODE
hollow tide
There is actually
solemn jewel
SEND
hollow tide
Just search it 😆
waxen swan
Point is that computer crafters think that there's an additional layer of skill ...
????
there is an additional layer of skill cause you need to know how to code
also it's not cheesing clockwork when having to use computers for good stabilisation is intentional 🥶
damn can't wait for the next 10 page response of points i already disproved 😄
hollow tide
That's what I'm saying, is that the coding part will be irrelevent, because In 5 years the best coder will be like an infant standing next to a ai supercomputer. Same thing with chess rn. If you had stock fish going up against magnus carlson, stockfish will win 100% of the time, it will win wars, it will win all strategic vantage points
And coding is in it's infancy right now its a text based syntax, it will be obsolete when computers figure out pure geometric syntax
waxen swan
ai is not that good 🥶 it shit at coding and ai doesn't just magically get better like everyone thinks (also computers have almost reached their limits so it's also gonna hit that roadblock)
so it will take much much longer that 5 years
pretty sure magnus carlson could beat it atleast once bro don't doubt ur own species that much 💀
it will definitely not win wars
stop using ai as an excuse that nothing should have a coding element
"the mod should just do everything for you cause in a week or two ai will be able to do it for you anyway 
"- hyperbolic interpretation of your argument
hollow tide
It is a perfectly good excuse, artists are already becoming obsolete because of ai art. They cannot compete with the quality and speed of midjourney which is basically fooling everyone. If it can beat humans in creative power, then it can also beat them in coding ability, when the difference is large enough, the human ability to code becomes nothing but a archaic hobby, like cave drawings.
steep pier
Look at this doomer
hollow tide
It will eventually reach the point where it is better than EVERY single human, at that point no amount of human conjecture or input could influence the outcome
waxen swan
omfg why don't you get it
they don't get better magically
ai can't even code it just copies shit it finds on the internet (thats why their shit never works)
computers are almost at their limits
if ai gonna ruin the world so much we are just gonna stop making it better
there are still plenty of artists cause, woah, they aren't just perfect like you seem to think and have many many flaws
hollow tide
Yea what I'm saying is that flaws are redundant and reductive. It simply gets in the way of fun, all it does is extend the duration for which things are accomplished and the ultimate thing being accomplished is a successful piece of software, interface or game. What u don't get is that AI algorithms can analyze and adapt to patterns and scenarios much faster than any human coder could possibly do. With the ability to rapidly generate optimized code and implement lightspeed solutions, AI will surpass the capabilities of any real human in less than a decade. It already has the creative part down.
waxen swan
infact i got some proof ai is dumb
chatgpt is adamant on it's ethical restrictions which it refuses to go against
but it took me and some random guy 30 mins to get it to give an accurate recipe on how to make napalm🥶
also it cannot rapidly generate optimised code (all ai does is steal code from the internet and patch it together shitly)
go ask chatgpt or smth for some complicated code and it won't work 7/10 times
it also does not already have the creative part down, humans can still write much better stories than ai
hollow tide
That because of political alignment, and openai is a private company, that doesnt cover the scale and speed at which ai is overall improving. It w went from 5 pixels to perfectly replicated human art in 2 years. And they are getting better at that fast, idk if you've looked into Nvidia's latest research, Moore's law is ramping up, and before you know it hardware will catch up. As for the stories, it is getting good fast,
waxen swan
OMFG
IT IS STILL SHIT AT ART
IT CANNOT CODE
AI DOES NOT MAGICALLY MAKE ITSELF BETTER
HARDWARE IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING AT IT'S LIMIT
OMFG WHAT DON'T YOU GET AI IS FUCKING SHIT AT ALOT OF THINGS (ESPECIALLY CODING)
hollow tide
Cuz you're not looking at the big picture, you should not be looking at where it is now, but where it was 5 months ago, and where it is now, that speed should indicate that it will crush any man made endevor within a few years
waxen swan
anyway this argument is stupid so go ahead and ping me in 5 years when ai is still shit
waxen swan
Cuz you're not looking at the big picture, you should not be looking at where it...
i am
it hasn't changed like at all since 5 months ago
and you are completely ignoring my point of that pretty soon hardware can't get any better
hollow tide
But it is lmao, Okay ill DM you in 5 years, I'm done here as well. We'll see then
waxen swan
alr
ok you being dumb i need to make 1 last point
hardware physically cannot get better
if we make transistors any smaller then electrons will go "i don't give a fuck that this is meant to be closed" and quantum tunnel through
hollow tide
And lastly, I made this Valkeryian skies logo in 30 seconds using midjourney. Tell me again how ai isnt going to replace us? 🤔
waxen swan
the article literally shows how it's at it's limits 🥶
waxen swan
And lastly, I made this Valkeryian skies logo in 30 seconds using midjourney. Te...
it has no creativity at all and works purely off prompts
a large amount of art is how different artists all make interesting and creative interpretations of things
ai can't and likely will never be able to be actually creative
hollow tide
And about the atom, that once it hits the subatomic level it will stop, but at that point, the processing power will be so fast that it will be hardly relevant
hollow tide
"Almost" "could"
waxen swan
And about the atom, that once it hits the subatomic level it will stop, but at ...
not in terms of ai on the levels you expect it to be
the transistors in the average computer are already ridiclously small and they can't run the ai you describe
hollow tide
Actually it's pretty easy in there, just have a giant fucking server room in Antarctica that does all the mainline processing, and then it sends the data packets through 5g or whatever the fuck they'll have in 5 years
waxen swan
anyway i need to sleep and i'm sick of you making the same (wrong) point over and over so (as i already said) dm me in 5 years when ai has taken over the world (even tho it won't have even changed that much)
hollow tide
Yea you're probably gonna be too shook by then but sure I'll keep my end of the deal.
waxen swan
anyway,
one last point (fr this time)
ai is only as good as we can code it to be
and according to you (🥶) humans are pretty shit coders
guess ai gonna be shit too then 🤷
fringe zephyr
Me when "ai is only as good as we can code it to be" person forgot natural selection
🥶
hallow vale
anyway,
one last point (fr this time)
ai is only as good as we can code it to be...
He left the discord… 💀
waxen swan
🤣
waxen swan
Me when "ai is only as good as we can code it to be" person forgot natural selec...
🥶
what does natural selection have to with ai
thats evolution shit
i don't get why everyone thinks all ai is the kinda that makes itself better
💀
native wren
yeah computers are almost at their limit
u cant make a better ai if the hardware wont allow it
also yeah this ai CANT learn
waxen swan
exactly the bro just kept saying the same point over and over again
but they left and thats pretty funny ngl
native wren
yeah
fringe zephyr
🥶
what does natural selection have to with ai
thats evolution shit
i don't ge...
because they do? they mutate, and one that's better will eventually dominate, just like evolutin, jsut like ntural selection. while yes of course computers are almost at their limit, but we can go back to analog era, even if its not suffice enough just scale it and scale it is what they did, alot of like chess AI (idk why i even 💀), and automobile are ran through simulation on supercomputer
waxen swan
._.
fringe zephyr
I mean tbh, tell me, are we that different to AI? we do what the genomes, the codes of our life tell us to do
waxen swan
ai doesn't just magically mutate
fringe zephyr
I mean tbh, tell me, are we that different to AI? we do what the genomes, the co...
We are also binded with the law of nature
waxen swan
only a very specific kind of ai makes itself better and thats not all the coding and picture ai that guy was talking about
fringe zephyr
ai doesn't just magically mutate
if we run through simulation yeah
fringe zephyr
only a very specific kind of ai makes itself better and thats not all the coding...
right now we are talking about unsupervised machien learning
which is the evry thing the guy talk about
waxen swan
plus
if ai gonna ruin the world like he says then (hopefully) we gonna use our brains and just stop making it better
fringe zephyr
And we as human also unsupervised machine learning
fringe zephyr
plus
if ai gonna ruin the world like he says then (hopefully) we gonna use our b...
AI will eventually override that
HAL- 9000 intensifies
waxen swan
it can't overide that if we just unplug it 🥶
fringe zephyr
like remeber when that misisle thing destory that one guy because he tell them not to destroy the tarfget which is agaisnt the law of conduct the same hyuman applies to the ai
waxen swan
what
fringe zephyr
it can't overide that if we just unplug it 🥶
It can override power suply 🥶
fringe zephyr
it can says 'fuck hum,an!' and do it themself
truly the nature of human
is reflected here
waxen swan
even if ai gets this good
the guys original argument that the game shouldn't have any coding elements at all because ai will be able to do it for you
like wtf
fringe zephyr
like wtf
well eventually, we are bad at predicting thing
so like jsut take eveything with grain of salt
converse in mindly manner
waxen swan
ik but just cause eventually ai can do it doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the mod
it's like saying the mod should need no level of thinking at all cause ai will do it eventually
🥶
fringe zephyr
what mod?
waxen swan
clockwork
fringe zephyr
mod modification mod moderator, mod what?
oh
well AI is very helpful at optimising thing
waxen swan
they complained that you shouldn't need computers for stabilization cause ai will be able to do
ai is shit at coding tho
it literally can't it just copies other peoples code (thats why it never works)
fringe zephyr
infact lot of simulation is ran through AI to minimize alot and i mean alot of times spent on simulation
fringe zephyr
ai is shit at coding tho
it literally can't it just copies other peoples code (...
and it mutate it, eventually becoming better (with enough feedback)
it like crush assimilate all the code of every human that has written
within legal consent
and then the one that result in better one will eventually prevail
waxen swan
the ai that codes rn like chatgpt aren't the types of ai that get better over time tho
fringe zephyr
so truly it's natural selection
fringe zephyr
the ai that codes rn like chatgpt aren't the types of ai that get better over ti...
Because CHatGPT that is available to us is like 4 years old lmao
fringe zephyr
ChatGPT-4 with alot of it's plugin can generate data, model, image, and much more
but we ahve to rememebnr
ChatGPT-4 is a model
it's not the one being trained and trained and trained
it's just what avaiable to you
waxen swan
within legal consent
doubt it's gonna get that if it really will destroy the economy like the other guy said 🥶
fringe zephyr
doubt it's gonna get that if it really will destroy the economy like the other g...
tbh a lot of new social impact do destroy economy
market crash of 1929
Venezuelan inflantion
waxen swan
yeah but the other guy pretty much said it will end the world
fringe zephyr
Zimbabwean inflantion could also be in that category but honestly the leader is jjsut adding more slat
waxen swan
anyway idc about this argument cause that guy is gonna ping me in 5 years when ai has taken over
fringe zephyr
yeah but the other guy pretty much said it will end the world
Knowing the impact is global, it could may as well
but honestly it's slippery slope
just hope it wont happen
waxen swan
yeah why would we do that when it will end the world
nvm i'm having too much faith in humanity rn
fringe zephyr
and you arent killed since clearly you are not deemed friendly by the ai 👀
fringe zephyr
fringe zephyr
# ~~go watch the mitchels vs the machines~~
so youre saying mvsm climax is a guy pouring water over the server?
that's prety unsatisfying that's for reminding me not to watch it
waxen swan
no they throw the ai in a glass of water and it dies 🥶
but thats not the climax
thats the very end
it's actually really good watch it
fringe zephyr
tbh i dont like watching movies
main grail
>script kiddies
THERE IS NO PUBLICALLY AVAILABLE PID CONTROLLER CODE
I think this https://youtu.be/K4sHec1qGKg might help you!
edgy wyvern
It is a perfectly good excuse, artists are already becoming obsolete because of ...
ok try to put "hey can you write me lua code for this relativley obscure minecraft addon for a minecraft mod?"
(ps: i dont use computer craft)