Clockwork Suggestion Megathread

[tired spire]

How they work will also be changed

But

[subtle marten]

You can use them if you download an okd version of clockwork but it need very specific other mod versions

[tired spire]

They will in fact be powerful rocket engines

[warm folio]

So the (not create mod) tournament boosters are the only way to go speed?

[subtle marten]

And they very buggy

In a compact way, yes

But they broken af

[tired spire]

You can go fast with propellers if you want to

[warm folio]

But that not cool

[subtle marten]

Only redstone for free movement its broken

[warm folio]

?

This server speaks English but sometimes I don’t understand it

[subtle marten]

I mean that its too overpowered

Tournament's thrusters are too strong for only need a redstone signal

And its like cheating

[tired spire]

Look there's no VS2 add-on with realistic rocket solid boosters, liquid fuel engines or jet engines planned

[warm folio]

But it’s not createeeee

[subtle marten]

Sadly not

[warm folio]

I want create rocket boosters

[tired spire]

Me too but that's simply not a thing

[bleak kiln]

https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/ get to work

[warm folio]

And the fans are weak cause

[subtle marten]

We will need to wait for Melting Point (clockwork next update)

[warm folio]

Estimate time?

[bleak kiln]

no lol

this year

[subtle marten]

Mid july i think

Maybe

[bleak kiln]

mid july potato time

[subtle marten]

If the stars align

If god wants

[tired spire]

Woooould love to, but I'm not a coder
I make the textures for a space mod that I am too lazy to tell about rn

[warm folio]

I can’t code

[subtle marten]

I dont even know how to retexture

[tired spire]

Which means maybe by september
Hey still pretty good

[tired spire]

I'm learning to...

[bleak kiln]

well it was supposed to be january 1st 💀

[subtle marten]

Meanwhile melting point release before aeronautics ill be good

[tired spire]

Yes a lot of the texture for this was stolen from Create:Alloyed and Create

[bleak kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[tired spire]

VS2 based space mod with a made up solar system and probably realistic orbital mechanics

[bleak kiln]

[tired spire]

Basically liftoff but for Clockwork

[tired spire]

We haven't written a single line of code so far

[warm folio]

What’s the range for the redatone remote create?

[tired spire]

[tired spire]

You can change it

[bleak kiln]

is it the one ewo is involved in

[warm folio]

In the create goggle thing in the menu?

[tired spire]

Ewoudje? No

[bleak kiln]

yes

oh okay

[warm folio]

Dos that automatically change config to it? Like if I shared the modpack

[bleak kiln]

it should, yes

if it's on cf at least, that's the one i know abt

[warm folio]

Okey

I use cf

[dapper oxide]

If a jet engine is added,I would like the ability to adjust the length and use fuel and rotational force to create new rotation and thrust.

I'm not from this server family, but I'd like to make this suggestion.

[tired spire]

It's not going to be a jet engine, those don't fit the style of clockwork, or so I was told

[dapper oxide]

okay

[tired spire]

it's just going to use heated gas to propel you forward, there would not be any turbines or fans or jet fuel or intakes and stuff like that

I was thinking about adding jet engines to clockwork, but I have basically no coding experience

[bleak kiln]

it will not do that

[bleak kiln]

^ same but create has 0 documentation

[tired spire]

so wait then how do people make add-ons for it

[bleak kiln]

they probably have done thourough research and read through the source code

[tired spire]

k then

[tired spire]

so not even for the crafting stuff?

like

the whole mixing thing

[bleak kiln]

that's documented

[tired spire]

what about SU power

[bleak kiln]

no lol

[tired spire]

then how are there so many add-ons

[bleak kiln]

^

[fair otter]

A windable spring motor would be a great addition to clock work since, if you want to have a compact build in survival like a drone, you wouldn't be able to without creative motors. How ever if you had a windable motor that could be winded with a hand crank or any other rotation source and can be started by clicking on it or giving it a red stone signal. Right clicking on it with a wrench will change the mode for when it gets a red stone signal to either toggle on or off or not. also holding right click on it would bring up the same speed menu as the creative motor. It would slow down to a stop after 5m - 30sec depending on how fast it is going i.e. the faster it goes the shorter it lasts. Plus how big the coil spring is and what the spring is made of iron, coper, zinc, and brass for example can affect speed and stress capacity. You could make the springs can be made with cut sheets of the materials sated and cut either with a mechanical saw or stone cuter. You can make it bigger by crafting up to three cut sheets together and then you can just put in a crafting spot to get a coil spring of made of whatever the cut sheets are and size they are. You then craft the windable spring motor with 1 clutch, 1 gearshift, 1 large gear, 1 small gear, 1 shaft, and 1 coil spring.

[polar kite]

or you could get tfmg or diesel generators

[fair otter]

No to simple

[bleak kiln]

suggested previously, likely not going to be added

[fair otter]

It dose fit in with the create aesthetic and can be auto mated plus it won't be to op and general meant for small things like a drone or any thing else and parts of it (like the spring) can be used for other projects plus it will not be going as fast or have the same stress capacity of a creative motor

[dusky maple]

Make that water will count as separate object on physics object, this will allow many capabilities

[dusky maple]

For drones you will use computercraft anyway, so no way

[fair otter]

but it isn't just drones plus to me I like to design my own drones

[sweet relic]

Make physics blocks be crushed by crushing wheels (i. e. Cobblestone gets crushed into gravel)

Would be neat to make traps for moving mega bases, a giant trap door opens and drops everything into a massive array of crushing wheels

[hollow hound]

Mounting a drill your ship and drilling someone else's

[bleak kiln]

already possible

just give the drill rotation

it'll do ship to ship and ship to world

[hollow hound]

Are you sure? Tested on 1.19.2 forge a bit ago and it didn't work

[bleak kiln]

did you give it rotation

[hollow hound]

Yep

[subtle marten]

It needs to be on a contraption

Not directly in the ship

[hollow hound]

Ah

[jagged saddle]

Clockwork suggestion:
Artificial Horizon / KSP nav ball

A glass container holding a stabilized
No matter how it is moved or rotated, the artificial horizon remains upright to the world it is in.

Redstone signals are emitted when the craft is tilted, making auto stabilizing possible, or otherwise making rotation be readable automatically

[long edge]

land detector: detects when you touch any block that isnt a ship emits redstone signal good for flyable homing misile

[bleak kiln]

tournament distance sensor

[tired spire]

Not CW tho

[sonic estuary]

use ccvs

[vapid thicket]

suggestion: horizontal elevator pulley (change name)

like elevator pulley but horizontal

and yes i know of the trains but they are incredibly expensive

[ornate robin]

Bro the thing to pulley is that they have to stop at some point (touching bedrock). Now imagine pulley that move side way... Nothing can stop it except players. Too op.

[tired spire]

How is that a CW suggestion

[vapid thicket]

because i was making a bunker and i had a long corridor but trains are incredibly expensive.

[tired spire]

Clockwork ≠ Create

[vapid thicket]

wat

[tired spire]

The double line is crossed

It means "does NOT equal"

[vapid thicket]

yes ik

"Clockwork does not equal-

oh i get it

so it's a suggestion in the wrong thread?

[tired spire]

No it's just not for this server
Ask a Create add-on dev that focuses on those kinda things, like Create: Connected or something, this is not directly related to ship building

[vapid thicket]

makes sense

[subtle marten]

Imagine something like a sticker that lets you jump with redstone, or with a specific amount of heat gas like a fart cannon (just a jump not constant thrust ) it could help with the planes liftoff, turning upside down cars, or like an instant evade for cannon shoots

[vapid thicket]

Something to facilitating hovering like a helicopter

[subtle marten]

Alr, phys bearing with wings and gyro

[vapid thicket]

it's not enough

I NEED MORE

[bleak kiln]

altitude meter too

[vapid thicket]

i tried using a hoverin heli with them, i put that when they reach a certain altitude they turn on clutches to the propellers, the thing went down

doing*

[azure hedge]

need to make a PID

XD

or just some sort of dampening really

[bleak kiln]

✨ cc-vs ✨

[azure hedge]

exactly

one of my friends made an actual PID controlled heli

(that always crashed)

[normal comet]

it only had forward and back tilt capabilities i can't perform black magic with computers

[dapper oxide]

When are jet engines scheduled to return?

[subtle marten]

Whe melting point release

[pulsar locust]

Is clockwork going to get compatibility for the portable interfaces

[bleak kiln]

use vs-addition

[pulsar locust]

thanks

[ripe beacon]

why make a new block for moving things between ships when it could be an additional mechanic of the weighted ejector?

unless thats not possible

[tired spire]

Well you see
You can't aim the weighted ejector
Always the same distance and angle

As far as how possible that is, I am not a dev so can't tell you

[noble hollow]

I would really like a block that worked like the reverse of a physics bearing. It would convert torque applied to the physics object attached to it and convert that to SU, with the rate of rotation as the RPM

IDK if this is possible without killing performance

but it would let people build huge cogwheels and shafts out of blocks

[dense scaffold]

I think the movement of the planes would be much smoother if it was a bit more realistic

I dont know how to describe what I mean, but like, in games such as Battlefield, or War Thunder, the movement of the planes is somehow so different.

I would understand if it would be too hard to code in, its just a suggestion.

[subtle marten]

Blud suggesting something he cant explain

[dense scaffold]

What I mean, I think, is to make the turn time of clockwork planes longer.

[subtle marten]

Smaller flaps 👍

[bleak kiln]

bruh

build ur planes better

[real gulch]

Increase the encased fan thrust me want make missile

[bleak kiln]

use tournament thruster

[real gulch]

Tournament thruster?

[bleak kiln]

thruster, from the tournament mod

[twilit cloak]

is there any addon to the clock mechanism that brings back the hot air balloon functionality?

[subtle marten]

Use old versions of clockwork

[urban forum]

give us afterburner (jet engine)

[subtle marten]

Will come back in melting point

For now just use tournament thrusters or super powered encased fans

[tired spire]

Neither of those names are the correct one LMAO

[dense scaffold]

I think I figured it out, it must be that with all the clockwork planes I have yet seen, there is a pretty big loss of momentum when turning.

[bleak kiln]

flaps and wings have a lot of drag

esp at angles

[civic plank]

Apparently CC doesn't interact with flap bearings in 1.20 like it does in 1.18.2, perchance add the setFlapAngle back?

that might be on CC's end tho

[subtle marten]

1.20.1 clockwork and vs is in general broken

[bleak kiln]

it's cc

use vs-addition to add back the functionality

though

the config was borked for me

[real mulch]

folks, hear this(Clockwork suggestion) - Stirring wheels:
like bro, a remote controlled boat, car, and plane??? really??? a stirring wheel would be awesome, at least for boats and cars, it could be like a stationary remote control or maybe just another version of the command seat but in the form of a stirring wheel that if possible steers clockwise and counter-clockwise when you press A and D, I mean, sure we already got the command seat and remote control but a stirring wheel just looks and feels different.

[subtle marten]

Clockwork additions is goin to have that i think

[red mango]

why not just use a redstone controller

the only way this makes sense, would be for irl steering wheel compat

but i don't think any developers own one

and you can just bind it as a controller

and use tweaked controllers

[vapid thicket]

I need a height limiter, that doesn't allow contraptions higher than said height, but requires 64 or higher RPM

[subtle marten]

Huh

Altitude meter with clutches

[mint bison]

wait there was a way to do that via an api? that was literally what i was going to ask for.

my current workaround is to place a computer directly on top of a flap bearing, blocks either side of the flap bearing, and redstone on top of those blocks

then i can set analog redstone output from the computer to control the flap

[civic plank]

you can also place four computers around the sides, tho that's a little scuffed

yeah, setFlapAngle()

how well does the redstoen method stabilize?

is it too jerky?

[mint bison]

i found issues with placing computers on the sides with the redstone not propagating unless there was at least one redstone dust in between computer and flap bearing

[mint bison]

you have 31 different states possible, but ive not gotten in the air with the system running yet (havent written all the code i need to interface my controls yet)

also how do i change which way is the front of my craft in vs: clockwork? ive built 90 degrees off

[civic plank]

yeah but only 15 different states per side, which I believe means intervals of 3 degrees

my helicopter usually ascends with a col angle of like 1.5 degrees

[civic plank]

idk, just rotate your reference angles by 90 degrees

[mint bison]

basically my yaw flap bearing is positioned at a 90 degree angle to what i want

so its kinda like this

ive tried using a wrench to rotate but it wont rotate around the axis i want regardless of what side i click from

[mint bison]

its not an issue with my computer system (that would be easy to fix)

its an issue with how the flap bearings place

[civic plank]

just use a tail rotor idk

[mint bison]

also im on the forge version of vs:clockwork

wait no

wrong mod

there fixed

[mint bison]

im trying to build a plane, not a helicopter

[civic plank]

oh lmao I'm tripping

[mint bison]

im trying to use computercraft computers to interface with an external controller

[inner dawn]

(Clockwork suggestion) Some sort of glue to make blocks glued with it act as wings and provide as much lift. Such a feature would make vehicle creation less constrained, so you could create prettier looking ones. I understand, that if this feature were to be implemented, it would render most use cases for the Wing obsolete.

[junior lava]

For clockwork, an inverse physics bearing could be useful, instead of a shaft being turned to rotate a physics object the physics object could be moved which would rotate the shaft

[subtle marten]

I think they said its already planned something like the interactive propagator bearing but for physics

[fringe salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-freddy-gif-25757699

[umbral ore]

will the next update fix buoyancy and air pockets?

[languid oasis]

It’ll fix air pockets

Idk about buoyancy, what’s wrong with it?

[tired spire]

I mean besides the fact you can go to LEO using a couple of spider webs

Probably nothing

[red mango]

that’s not an issue with buoyancy

that’s an issue with web having full hitbox and 0.1 kg mass

[bold thicket]

I love spider web

[umbral ore]

density does not contribute to buoyancy

so iron ships cannot exist unless you fill them with tournament floaters

[ruby breach]

misinformation or truth? call it

[tired spire]

Bro, it shouldn't

It's not material density here

It's the density of the fluid you're trying to float on

The unrealistic part here is the fluid volume, cause there's no airpockets, therefore there's no fluid displaced for air blocks

To put it simply, that's like filling a ship hull with water

ofc it won't float

So yeah the only thing it needs is airpockets

[umbral ore]

and that will be added in the next update?

[umbral ore]

also this doesn't make any sense in the context of ships

[red mango]

???

that’s

the formula

that’s used to calculate buoyant force

for ships and what not

[umbral ore]

ships float becouse the avarage density of the ship is less than the density of water

[tired spire]

I mean
Kinda

So basically you first calculate buoyancy using volume

Then you calculate the force that pulls the ship down

Which I think would be weight

Idk

Haven't had physics in a few years

So anyway, then as the last step you subtract the weight from buoyancy

And if it still remains positive, the ship will float

So it floats cause of the volume of the hull

And the formula for density is volume over mass, so I guess you're kinda right?

[red mango]

ships float because their buoyant force equals their gravity

[dense scaffold]

Anyone knows the create mod addon that adds one block decorational propellers/fans

Like I want to make a datapack or sumething that makes those propellers work with clockwork

[fringe salmon]

dreams and desires

[dense scaffold]

I don't think that's the addon I am talking about

Like that mod doesn't add any real propellers, just industrial fans(right?)

[dense scaffold]

And is there an open source version of clockwork?

[fringe salmon]

no

[dense scaffold]

Ok

[fringe salmon]

cl*sed source 🤮

[red mango]

you don't need clockwork source for that

if anything

clockwork source would make it harder

[dense scaffold]

Ok

then how do I add custom thrust sources?

[red mango]

look at tournament code

[dense scaffold]

And also, is there a way to disable the rapid deceleration when turning with flaps?

Like I don't have it when adjusting pitch

[red mango]

are you on 1.20

[dense scaffold]

yeah

using weights datapack and clockwork from tt

[red mango]

either grab the fixed 1.20 vs2 jar from tank tussle

[dense scaffold]

did that

[red mango]

in that case

design a better plane ig

[dense scaffold]

?

Like I turn, and then my plane slows down

And it goes really fast when not turning

what causes that?

I do not fall out of the air while turning, but it just slows down

[red mango]

turning works by providing a breaking force

seems like you have more flaps than you need for turning

leading to it slowing your plane

[red mango]

also like

that's how planes work

irl

you can just google it

[fringe salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/google-exists-google-search-it-geekboy-geekboy-cz-gif-25933207

[red mango]

i mean

googling irl plane problems while using clockwork

doesn't always lead to something useful

so i don't blame people for not doing it

[fringe salmon]

The main problem for me is tha i cant google while playing minecraft cause i have a shit pc

[dense scaffold]

But like they slow down too much?

Like relatively

Or they speed up to much, can be both

[languid oasis]

"they" being real planes, VS planes, or what

and relatively being relative to what

[dense scaffold]

To their speed, but I figured it out

Non-assembled flaps also slow down the plane a lot when turning

This means I need to have all flaps on the plane either assembled or in a certain position relative to the other flaps, I think.

[errant mica]

Add aeronautics to clockwork it would be cool to see planes and stuff

[subtle marten]

Bru

[fringe salmon]

I see clockwork x areo mod

[errant mica]

no not just aeronautics not the mod create: aeronautics

[tardy night]

Some sort of magnet that pulls a ship with a magnet on it close and aligns it to the normal world grid. I'm currently building a space port using ad astra, and i wanted to make a dock, but its really hard to get my ship to stay in place.

[fringe salmon]

Industria

or tournament

[tired spire]

The tournament one is meh

[fringe salmon]

then use industria

[tired spire]

Da hell's industria

[fringe salmon]

random not compiled unstable unoptimzed vs addon on github

[errant mica]

all good mods are like that

[fringe salmon]

create ?

[errant mica]

bad mod

[fringe salmon]

takeoff wait

thats nit good

[ruby breach]

unironically so true

[crimson inlet]

So I have a few suggestions, although not sure if this is more Valkyrian Skies side or Clockwork side.

1. Better Create + Clockwork interoperability. I've found that certain Create items simply don't play well with clockwork items and physics items. This is especially true of the Create mechanical bearing. For example, if you create a contraption which is an arm that rotates using the mechanical bearing, and attach the physics bearing to it with the intent of say rotating a helicopter rotor built with the sails, the physics bearing will not rotate with the contraption and becomes detached.

2. An programmable pivot hinge. When powered it moves a specific angle range, it'd need to be a unified block rather than needing to use one or more physics bearings which don't play nicely with create contraptions in certain circumstances.

3. Gravity-gun rotation; the gravity gun is a bit difficult to use, and being able to hold a button and use the scroll wheel to do fine rotational adjustments (relative to the direction in which you picked up a physics item) would make placing physics objects way easier.

4. Correct collision for block entities that aren't full blocks, e.g. fence posts, train rails, etc. Several items, once turned into physics blocks, lose all collision. This one, I don't know if it's possible or not.

[runic ivy]

1 is impossible

[crimson inlet]

Fair enough. The others though should be possible to some extent or another.

The only reason why I want the collision issues resolved is it'd allow me to make much nicer chains.

[runic ivy]

elaborate on 4th

[crimson inlet]

Well, certain blocks like fence posts, walls, etc lose collision once they are converted to a physics object. Let's say you build two fence posts up and place a standard block on top. Then convert it to a physics object with the wanderwand. Once the conversion is complete the object will fall through the ground until the standard block comes into conact with the ground. The two fence posts will move through anything including other physics objects. So you can't use the narrower fence post as chain pins, as an example.

[runic ivy]

[crimson inlet]

No, you built two wide, not two tall. Two wide the game treats the fence as a normal block. Let me get a video of what's happening.

hmm, well it's not happening in my current modpack, but did so a lot in a different modpack....this is weird. If it happens again I'll try to grab a video.

[crimson inlet]

Another suggestion; dynamic chains and ropes/cables.

[subtle marten]

There already are ropes, pipes and even shafts

[bleak kiln]

Vmod

[fringe salmon]

maybe to low lod

[tired spire]

We do need accurate link collisions tho

[dense scaffold]

Hey, so I was wondering about making a mod that adds some stuff to clockwork, such as a propeller block, and a bomb bay sort of thing that can drop cbc projectiles off of clockwork planes, anyone willing to help me?

And am I even allowed to do this?

Like what is the code-license of the clockwork mod?

[runic ivy]

why would you make addon to clockwork

just make an addon to VS

[dense scaffold]

Ok then, the concept remains

[runic ivy]

and also nobody gives a shit

unless you blatantly steal code

like aero

[dense scaffold]

Okay

I will not blatantly steal stuff

Just add some things around existing stuff?

Like my plan is to add a flap-bearing, but more compact, with the first flap block and redstone links put together in one block?

Is that considered stealing code?

[runic ivy]

will you steal code for it?

if not, then it's not code stealing

nobody cares if you have similar ideas

[runic ivy]

also that's already exists

[dense scaffold]

Where?

[runic ivy]

VS Additions iirc

[dense scaffold]

Channel link?

[runic ivy]

https://github.com/xiewuzhiying/VS-Addition

[dense scaffold]

I can't find the item there, where can I find it?

[runic ivy]

oh right

it doesn't add it

it mixins into clockwork's flap bearing

to change it

[dense scaffold]

?

[runic ivy]

what do you not understand

[subtle marten]

VS additions adds the feature that you can set frequencies to the clockwork flap bearings sides like redstone links but without them

[dense scaffold]

ah

[oak arrow]

Whats the story behind this?

[runic ivy]

aero stole some code several times from VS

but it was like 2 years ago so 🥱

[tired spire]

lazy

[red mango]

and also chaz getting a clockwork contributor to leak clockwork code

which was a year ago so 🥱

[bleak kiln]

didn't even charge for it

[crimson inlet]

Thanks, I'll test it out.

with the vmod addon, how do I remove a placed physics rope?

[bleak kiln]

strip mode

[crimson inlet]

I don't see a means of doing that in the menu, how do I activate strip mode?

[runic ivy]

... it's an option

in the menu

[crimson inlet]

ah, thanks, it didn't show up on the first oad. Second load and it did.

[wind vault]

dose clockwork has "anti-redstone resistor"?

it will be full cluth at initial and increase the ouput rotate speed by the redstone signal

[bleak kiln]

if it's not in ur inventory, it doesn't exist

[fringe salmon]

which version are you on

[wind vault]

1.20

[tired spire]

Unless something broke your creative inventory

[crimson inlet]

So, it seems Vmod ropes don't save and get deleted upon restart of my world. Any idea why this is? If it I can't keep the ropes and effects from the mod, I can't use it for my purposes in the challenge map I'm building.

[errant mica]

Why put this here

But

@runic ivy explain

[runic ivy]

it does happen sometimes in public release

ig you can't use it rn

[crimson inlet]

Good to know thanks

[errant mica]

Give him a private release then

[hollow hound]

Bottom text

[wind vault]

can clockwork add "anti-redstone resistor"?
it will be full cluth at initial and increase the ouput rotate speed by the redstone signal

[snow folio]

It would be nice if /vs followed conventional Minecraft command rules. Currently, things like /vs teleport @v[slug=ship-x] @v[slug=ship-y] doesn't work, nor the [distance=] parameter

[languid oasis]

not really a clockwork suggestion...

[snow folio]

:/

[languid oasis]

but also, wdym /vs teleport @v[slug=slug-name] doesnt work?

[snow folio]

It's the VS tab in the server and there's no VS specific thread ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[languid oasis]

oh i think you did it wrong

I think you need /vs teleport @v[slug=slug-name] ~ ~ ~

also, /vs teleport @v[slug=slug-name]

ah wrong paste

fuck

I meant "also this: https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1281087890545315943"

[snow folio]

I've done that, yes. But that's relative to player

[languid oasis]

oh

you want ship to ship?

[snow folio]

Reading this thread you shared, it's pretty much what I was saying. It would be nice to have the whole gamut of selectors available

[languid oasis]

yeah

also the auto-suggest doesnt work for the commands

which is really annoying

oh wait

that got fixed

nvr mind

[snow folio]

What's more annoying is that @v pops up automatically as the first tab option when I'm trying to teleport other entities using /tp, even though /tp doesn't work on ships

[languid oasis]

oh huh

must be a limitation of entity selectors probably

waait

I can use /tp with @v

it works?

[snow folio]

Hmmm

[languid oasis]

I do have VS additions and Vmod tho, maybe they fix it

[snow folio]

Can you /tp playername ship-slug?

[languid oasis]

I can use @p

yeah /tp blockninja124 @v[slug=evening-skunk-liberty] works fine for me

[snow folio]

Or rather /tp playername @v[slug=ship]

[languid oasis]

what are you putting as slug?

[snow folio]

Literally anything. Returned something like "invalid command parameters"

[languid oasis]

oh uh

[snow folio]

I will have to do further testing when I get back from work

[languid oasis]

do you know how to get a slug?

[snow folio]

Yeah

I think

[languid oasis]

and you tried using that?

You use /vs get-ship while looking at the ship you want

wrong video sorry

[snow folio]

Heeeyyyy, I was watching that

[languid oasis]

oh lmao

i can send it again

once file explorer stops dying

[snow folio]

Nah

[languid oasis]

seriously wth, its only a 26GB folder

maybe i should clean it up lmao

Way too many unneeded screen recordings

Maybe VS additions or Vmod fixes it tho

[snow folio]

:|

I am nearly certain I tried that very command structure

[languid oasis]

hmm

idk then

i do remember this being broken

[tired spire]

plez return afterbwarberarer

i want beld jet dogfighter

[snow folio]

Sounds like you are having a stronk

[scarlet brook]

plez return blon

i want mkeae hihgflet

[snow folio]

Welding. The ability to add large pieces to a ship without disassembling it and using a world editor

Due to the buggy nature of the mod, assembling and disassembling is a lossy process and creates a lot of work fixing everything that breaks.

So imagine something like a "welding gun" that takes a structure that you glued together, and snaps it onto the grid of your ship

[subtle marten]

You can use schems on ships iirc

[snow folio]

I woukd fact check you but I got a paper due. You win this time

[errant mica]

On the tank tussle one you can

[errant mica]

Idk how well vs would handle merging 2 separate ships

Would require some weird stuff

Because of the way ships work

[snow folio]

I originally imagined it as merging 2 ships, but I think it can be simpler than that

Step 1: build structure
Step 2: designate a selection area (I suggested super glue earlier)
Step 3: grab with welder. It internally copies the structure to a "clipboard" of sorts, deletes the blocks in front of you, and gives you a hologram to carry around and manipulate, with commands like rotate and flip. It visually snaps to block grid on ship you're pointing at
Step 4: when you click, it pastes that copied structure in the shipyard, adding it to the existing ship in the same manner that user-placed blocks are

[dense scaffold]

Suggestion: Add a config to the mod with the options to make propellers really loud and hearable for afar

[subtle marten]

They dont make any sound btw

I hope melting point adds that

[dense scaffold]

I know

But like maybe they don't want to do it cuz of the loud sound being f-ing annoying

[errant mica]

that would be annoying

and awful

[snow folio]

Is it planned for wings and flaps to have the arrow-indicator like create windmill blades do? Right now building is incredibly annoying because they're directionally sensitive, but the side hitbox is the smallest

If you face the side to get more surface area in your view, it places sideways

create doesn't have this problem because you can click the entire right half of a block to make the windmill blade longer

[bleak kiln]

i suggested this 14 months ago

[snow folio]

And yet here we are. The gods hear not our cries

That or they're unpaid for this work and do it in their free time

Its one of those

[subtle marten]

Imo if sails can work as propellers why not as flaps or wings since propellers actually need some inclination angle and need to be strong enough to yk lift a plane and resist the wind

[crimson inlet]

With Vmod how do I use the hydraulics and the linking option?

[snow folio]

This is not #1019674227579813910 , this is #1103703417941151814

[snow folio]

Technically airfoils don't need angle of attack, but it does influence lift generated

[sonic estuary]

try @snow folio @bleak kiln

[bleak kiln]

hpw do you do it

it's been a year of wanting this and you just do it

[fringe salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/minion-woohoo-yeah-excited-cheer-gif-3568194819036625347

[bleak kiln]

also make showcase post

[warm gust]

The goat

[snow folio]

You are insane

Certified mad lad behavior

[oak arrow]

Mixins are basically just magic

[bleak kiln]

yeah, but a feature gets requested, neither vs or clockwork sorts it out, then one of you guys just fixes it

[wide valve]

fix the flap placing thing

it just wont go in some directons

[bleak kiln]

it will

[red mango]

clockwork hasn’t sorted out any issues

because the last update

was like a year ago

[bleak kiln]

I suggested it 3 updates ago

[red mango]

and 3 updates ago was sterner’s update

which he gave up on

[bleak kiln]

sorry, before the 5.1 update

[red mango]

probably was the forced update

[wide valve]

it didn

[bleak kiln]

[wide valve]

no flap bearing

also is there a way i can make a physic object hover in the air so i can do stuff at the bottom

[oblique canyon]

there's a command to freeze it

[red mango]

creative graviton left click

the /vs set-static command

[wide valve]

ok thanks

[tired spire]

Works with any gravitron

[snow folio]

/vs teleport doesn't allow @v to teleport all ships at once, so if you lose a ship and don't know the slug, it's gone

Suggestions:

1. /vs list-ships
   It lists all the ships in your world

2. /vs teleport @v[distance..] ~ ~ ~
3. Ability to rename ship in eureka helm

[errant mica]

It does tho

/vs teleport @v[]

Idk why but the @v needs the [] or else it don't work

[snow folio]

Yeah, it says "can only teleport exactly 1 ship"

[errant mica]

Uh

That shouldn't be a problem

It works for me usually

Wait

You need to do /vs teleport @v[] @s I'm pretty sure

Or the other way round

As teleport tries to teleport you

Iirc

[runic ivy]

what "it"?

[errant mica]

The error message I assume

[runic ivy]

it works

what error

[errant mica]

Haven't a clue

[runic ivy]

i am on 1.18.2 though

maybe 1.20.1 is fucked or smth

[snow folio]

Typing the command like a sane person

I never tried @v[] because I'm not a psychopath

[errant mica]

????

Not gonna do the solution because I'm not q psychopath

[snow folio]

No, I mean I didn't figure out on my own that was required because that's not how any command works in Minecraft

[runic ivy]

idk it took me like 2 minutes first time

sounds like you have a skill issue

but yea it's pretty stupid

[errant mica]

Well last time i checked vs isnt made by Microsoft so they can do ehat they want

[snow folio]

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

[errant mica]

Yes it does

Just because I can learn to do stuff I'm interested in doesn't mean I should

[snow folio]

They can make what they want, and I can tell them it's a terrible design if I want

[runic ivy]

also why did you post it in clockwork suggestions

[snow folio]

Because I had a suggestion

[runic ivy]

it's a VS suggestion though

not clockwork specific

also nobody looks here anyways

[snow folio]

#616503789196935181-suggestions

huh no hyperlink

[runic ivy]

github

[errant mica]

It's just a 5th general for even weirder people

[runic ivy]

or dm directly to some dev idk

they will like it

100%

[errant mica]

That's kinda the whole server go to general or something

[snow folio]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[heady path]

Could the gyro allow rotation on its own axis of rotation?

It's a bit closer to how actual gyros work and it spares lots of trouble when you wanna rotate stuff

[subtle marten]

That would be great but for now you could use the tournament distance sensors or the clockwork additions tilt sensor for balancing (they neither easy or small but its all we have)

[ripe umbra]

the peak

[crimson inlet]

I have another suggestion; a cogworks chaindrive that's interactable with the physics objects. Iv'e tried many different methods to produce one, but the physics object increases causes major lag, and no matter how I build chain links and cogwheels, the chain links break. A similar setup to trackwork could be used to do this, with multidirectional cogs (so they can be placed vertically or horizontally) and once two are placed a trackwork like chain auto attaches. Then one can hang or bind another physics object to the chain so the track can move the suspended phys object.

[subtle marten]

For what would you use that

[crimson inlet]

Cranes, angled lifts, large scale conveyor belts, challenge maps, large scale machinery, etc.

[crimson inlet]

You have to understand I'm using Valkryien Skies and Clockwork (along with other addons) to push the limits of the mod and minecraft to build some parkour challenge maps. While I can figure out a great deal of the things I want to do, some things aren't seemingly possible due to limitations in how the mod implements collision. So some solutions like my suggested larger scale chain drive that can work like trackworks or be attached to cogwheels would go a long way to make several machines and phys contraptions I want to build possible.

[vale heath]

__**It looks like you're trying to download Clockwork! <:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919>**__

You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.

Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin for Forge, or Fabric Language Kotlin, both of which can be found on both CurseForge and Modrinth, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can be found on Modrinth. It also requires the latest version of the Create mod. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.

Also note that Clockwork is currently available for Minecraft 1.18.2, 1.19.2 and 1.20.1, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.

[red mango]

pain to code

and there aren’t any practical uses for it

[crimson inlet]

There are tons of practical uses for it.

[red mango]

best you’ll get is create belts affecting ships

[crimson inlet]

So, scaling up the existing trackwork system, removing the need for the intermediary wheels just the two large attach points, and making it so the track can interact with physics objects is too much to ask?

[red mango]

i don’t think trackwork tracks affect physics objects

outside of the one that they’re moving around of course

[crimson inlet]

Well they don't now, but that doesn't mean they couldn't be made to physics objects can be attached to the track so they can interact with physics objects.

[runic ivy]

easier said than done

[red mango]

you would have to either cast tons of raycasts

which would hurt performance

[crimson inlet]

While I understand that, there is actually several practical uses for it; again large scale cranes, large scale conveyor belts, straight conveyor belts at an angle with true variable angles.

[red mango]

or set something up with the currently non existent collision events

[red mango]

create conveyer belts already exist

if you want a bigger version you can just put multiple of them together

[runic ivy]

...

[crimson inlet]

yes but they don't interact properly with physics objects.

Nor can you attach an anchor to the conveyor belt

[red mango]

also trackwork belts aren’t as dynamic as that

the attach points are always on a single line

[crimson inlet]

I've spent over 20 hours attempting to make a large scale chain drive that I can attach a crane to to move another object, every which way you can imagine, including the create conveyor belts, but the closest I got was a 30 link large scale chain moved by manually created cogs all of them ships. It killed my frame rate and the chain kept breaking.

[red mango]

making one with variable attach points

would require making a dynamic belt renderer

[crimson inlet]

I know the trackwork belts are on a single line, but once they're bound to a ship the ship's orientation relative to the world placement can be at an angle.

I'm not asking for variable attach points, I want the trackwork track as it is in a straight line, the variable angle comes from it being attached to a ship and the ship's relative positioning allowing for variable angles.

Here's a breakdown for my suggestion; scale up the trackwork cogs/rollers for a larger scale conveyor belt. It remains attached in a straight line. You bind it to a "ship" as you would currently to make a vehicle. The key difference is the track can have other blocks attached to it, like a rope hook anchor or have collision so it interacts with other physics objects. Once bound to the "ship" say a crane arm, you can then place the arm at a given angle relative to the world space. You can then move the attached physics object by powering the track, or use the track as a larger scale conveyor belt.

Combine this with a create engine and sequential drive you can set it to go back and forth over the length of the crane arm.

[drowsy frigate]

the gravatron needs a buff imo, or at least some way to buff it in the config. it's kinda cringe having to cheat in a creative item everytime one of my big flying machines goes haywire in survival and i need to move it back

[red mango]

it’s also kind of cringe

to have pvp mfs breathing down our necks

because the main clockwork pvp meta

is left clicking people’s vehicles with the graviton

[fringe salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-19575284

[subtle marten]

Or just make sure you are inside the vehicle while building

[tired spire]

Never

If anything, it needs a nerf

[bleak kiln]

me irl causually throwing around 1000kg blocks

[subtle marten]

I hope the next cw update they remove the survival gravitron

[tired spire]

Maybe just make it limited range instead?

Like 10 blocks

[subtle marten]

And much more weight limited by default

[violet breach]

allow gyro's to be limited, so they cant steer at a certain distance

[subtle marten]

Huh, wat

[violet breach]

ok so

i aint the greatest with english but

u should be able to configure gyros, so they cant go over a specific angle

so that if a redstone input is higher than the limit its not gonna go higher

[subtle marten]

Gyro is gonna work something like that in the next clockwork update

👍 i mean the redstone thing

[violet breach]

k

[dense scaffold]

Anyone have like a cogfight modpack or sumething?

[hollow hound]

Tank tussle

[meager fern]

they do

[dapper mural]

cogfight?

well theres tank tussle for tank fighting

if you mean dog fight theres aerial assault

[dense scaffold]

Y'all forgot cogfight?

[tired spire]

You don't know cogfight?

[dapper mural]

No I'm an idiot.

[tired spire]

How does that correlate

😭

[dapper mural]

i dont know things cause im an idiot

[dense scaffold]

Not knowing things does not necessarily have to mean being an idiot. Not being able to understand after being explained many times would be more closely correlated to that word, I think. (Totally not me yapping )

[dapper mural]

(my display name is "So I The Idiot")

[languid oasis]

ohhhh I thought it was Sol The Idiot lol

[dapper mural]

yeah that was intended

[dense scaffold]

me too

[fringe salmon]

what

you

are

The idiot

[fringe salmon]

same

[warm gust]

I read it as Sol The Idiot 😭

[bleak kiln]

same lol

[tired spire]

Bruh how are you people that confused

l and I look different from each other in discord

[languid oasis]

cause... I don't pay that much attension?

[warm gust]

I don't read every letter individually

[errant mica]

yea barely

like what a couple of pixels

[tired spire]

eh whatever

[fringe salmon]

** l ** I

hmm

[maiden ginkgo]

i think it would be a good idea to add a physics elevator that can move physics objects up and down

[subtle marten]

There are few ways already

Interactive with rope pulleys and/or stickers, VMod hidraulics, and a few things from the next addon Simplici

[tired spire]

Interactive is buggy
VMod was definitely not originally intended for survival
And wait isn't Simplici about cars?

[oak arrow]

and ropes

[tired spire]

Can I get da ropes separately

[tired spire]

Also hold on does Simplici have a server

[dapper mural]

Indeed it is as you have guessed

[oak arrow]

https://discord.gg/B7YcRVu8

[hollow hound]

Sol Badguy???

[tired spire]

https://tenor.com/view/pene-gif-27006874

[hollow hound]

https://tenor.com/view/sol-badguy-solbadguy-anji-mito-gif-22260240

[dense scaffold]

Is there anything like a release date for melting point?

[runic ivy]

no

[dense scaffold]

Ok

[steep olive]

Same time as aeronautics 😂

[dense scaffold]

yeah, probably

[noble hollow]

Wouldn't it be cool if there were ropes in clockwork

that could be pull in VS physics objects using create powered winches

[tired spire]

I mean there are ropes in VMod, but that add-on really wasn't meant for survival originally, so I guess it doesn't work for all people

[noble hollow]

It would be really cool if such things could be done in survival

Idk if its realistic

to actually be able to do that without lagging to death

[tired spire]

There is a way to configure which features of VMod survival players can and cannot use, and you can probably add a recipe to the toolgun via CubeJS

but that's still not it

a rope pulley that works with ships would be cool ig

[noble hollow]

imagine an airship where the balloon is attached to the basket by ropes

[tired spire]

eh, kinda cool but probably impractical

[tired spire]

I just wanna have like an elevator using that thing

to the airship

or a castle gate using two phys rope pulleys or smh

[noble hollow]

yeah

[crimson inlet]

New suggestion; can we get a compatibility patch mod for Automobility so the cars don't fall through physics objects?

[subtle marten]

Why would you use automobility when you can use horses, clockwork or future simplici

Or trackwork

[tired spire]

Trackwork best!

But only with intended wheels...

And clockwork is coolest

[crimson inlet]

Because I need a variety of easily spawnable cars for a challenge map. Future Simplici has major compatibility issues, and horses simply aren't what I need.

[hollow hound]

I was honestly expecting mp to come out before Aero, but at this point it could go either way

[dense scaffold]

💀

[subtle marten]

We are getting good teasers from both, not too frequently but at least there are, the best way to wait for both is forgetting abt them and spending that time in other things, so someday they will come out and u wont even notice

[dense scaffold]

Why my ballooner not working?

I have the fuel, the rotation and all, but it won't take off, even after a few minutes...

[runic ivy]

you either need to wait a lot more

or you need to click with brass hand

[dense scaffold]

Ah, I haven't done that...

[wide valve]

i didn't even know there was a ballooner

[tired spire]

There used to be

[wide valve]

It’s not there now?

Aww man

[subtle marten]

It will come back but fixed

[wide valve]

Whaat

Isn’t everything like still buggy

[fringe salmon]

yes

but with next update it will be less

[wide valve]

K

Will my ship still go to mars

[fringe salmon]

no

[wide valve]

Great

[fringe salmon]

wait

[wide valve]

Wut is this

[fringe salmon]

vs version with wing fix

[wide valve]

Wait what is wing fix

[subtle marten]

That bug which makes your ship go flying randomly and dissapear, its caused by wings and flaps, that specific modified vesion fixes it making it playable

[noble hollow]

Can't that be officially released?

We really badly need that bugfix

It would actually make VS playable

in the meantime

[subtle marten]

Meh, at least for now its enough

[bleak kiln]

there's a lot of vs bug fixes queued up behind the release of vs 2.5.0, be patient

[noble hollow]

I don't see why we would need to keep waiting when the code is actually done

[bleak kiln]

...it isn't

you can download it right now, actually

but it won't work with any addons

[noble hollow]

Ah I see

makes sense

[wide valve]

ummmm my ship still fly randomly without using wings or flaps

and is there a way i can turn my boat without flaps

flaps er iddiot

[errant mica]

eureaka helm

[wide valve]

it's not cool

and my spinner strenght was weak

[wide valve]

And is there a way you can place flaps in all direction

I build my stuff and found out it didn’t go in the direction

[subtle marten]

Yeah they can, its a bit bugged when you try to place them next to shaft outputs but you can place the wings and the shaft or gearboxes after

Or you mean flap bearing?

[wide valve]

flap bearing

cus u know u can't put them verticaly while its on the side and it only have one direction when it's on top or bottom

+we need a better way to spin stuff

[oak arrow]

It doesnt matter which way its facing when its placed vertically, itll do the same thinf.

[wide valve]

it don't

try

[subtle marten]

Yes, it does, YOU try

They tilt to the directions you want, you just need to put them perpendicular to the bearing, and give redstone to the correct bearing faces

[subtle marten]

Tournament spinner, sideways propellers/thrusters, eureka helm, computercraft, bearings

Already a lot

[wide valve]

sideway propellers?

u sure about that

[subtle marten]

Pretty sure. I mean something like what helicopters tails have

[wide valve]

but u know that clockwork propeller will not spin you but push you right

u can try

put a propeller on a long end and another on the oppisite end

see if it spin

[subtle marten]

Uhh it actually does

I mean it does exactly what im saying

Do you have any gyro or eureka ship helm in your builds?

[gleaming zephyr]

in one of these addons there should be a ship condenser. A multiblock structure that surrounds a ship (ship must be small enough to fit in the structure however big that is) and then you stand in a chamber in front of it and it is sent inside you so you can call it out with a keybind would be cool for attack on titan type builds and such I had the idea so I said it

[bleak kiln]

sounds like a seperate addon, get to work

[runic ivy]

wdym "call it out"

[wide valve]

Clockwork

Gyro

Oh shoot

[wide valve]

I forgot

[subtle marten]

They also stabilize the ships spin so you must give it less rpm to make it weaker and let you spin

[wide valve]

ohhh

cus when im building on water u know it like swing around which is annoying

i thought gyro only staible you

[ripe umbra]

well that pretty stupid that it work that way, good to know

[gleaming zephyr]

Keybind to summon it into the world around your player it could play a animation so it’s not instant and you would have to have space but just press a button and it pops out of ya

[cerulean sundial]

Allow ships to interact with elevators so you can make car storage elevators

[tired spire]

Pretty sure that would mean all contraptions would have to collide with ships

Which might not be doable

idk not a coder

[bleak kiln]

no

make physics elevators

[tired spire]

Then give us phys rope pulley

[bleak kiln]

make physics rope pulley yourself

you have rope, you have spinny things

[tired spire]

No that's janky
That's like using a tree branch as a selfie stick, it will work, but it's ugly and might fall apart

[noble hollow]

We need ropes of a more manageable style

[subtle marten]

Clockwork rope

[dapper oxide]

we need jet engine

on 1.20.1

[subtle marten]

With the gas system

If any block model is needed im here

[tired spire]

Me too

(I'm bad at it lol)

[subtle marten]

Maybe tmrrow i can remake some of the mp blocks that gas burner doesnt look enough creaty 😈🤑

[grizzled compass]

Yes i will

Expect them in 20 years

[fringe salmon]

laggy

no real argument

also

vmod ropes:

https://tenor.com/view/electro-kingdom-black-magic-gif-19337815

[subtle marten]

Vmod ropes arent retractable they just laggy and umgly

Just with something like a rope with a specific section length like a chain, that gets shorter when rotation applied like the suspension controller

It wont be as laggy if each section is like 1/0.5 blocks

[runic ivy]

oh wow blocked

[subtle marten]

I was kimdimg it was a jomke

[tired spire]

That's what I was also thinking for it

Lotsa cool stuff you could do with that

[fringe salmon]

also why tf should i do a 30x30 laggy multiship thingie 3 times bigger than my airship just for a rope to grab cargo

[tired spire]

I mean
Not necessarily that big, and you can probably use a different way like an arm, but it would be REALLY nice to have a phys rope pulley anyway

[fringe salmon]

yes

[wintry gust]

Hello there, I have a suggestion. There should be a native method on transferring items, fluids, and electricity (Create Crafts & Additions) to VS contraptions.

[tired spire]

The player

Ok but actually check this out

#clockwork-🕛 message

It's already being worked on

[livid bluff]

It would be really nice if wings and flaps and the flap bearing could be rotated with a wrench, it's a little difficult to place them correctly (unless i'm doing something wrong)

[tired spire]

Already in the mod for a long time, you might be clicking in the wrong place

[livid bluff]

hmm i'm able to rotate the flap bearing mostly correctly (it can never have the flap vertical when on its side and is always facing the same way when facing up or down) but i havent been able to turn the flaps and wings, though the supplementaries wrench works on them

[grizzled compass]

a wankel engine

its a pressure powered engine

[subtle marten]

You mean pressurized air? I think there already exist an addon for pneumaticraft compat

[grizzled compass]

In clockwork

i want it

[atomic summit]

I don't even know if that's planned for melting point, but I would not be surprised at this point

[tired spire]

wrong, a rotary wankel engine was originally designed for internal gasoline combustion, what makes it special is the dorito

[grizzled compass]

fineeee,rotary combustion pressure engine thingy

[tired spire]

Honestly air powered engines aren't that different from steam engines

People even use pressurized air to run steam engines irl because boiling water is too hard

[noble hollow]

VMod is all very well but its not survival compatable

[bleak kiln]

access to the command system is all very well but its not survival compatable

[noble hollow]

that would in fact be true

however

[velvet igloo]

Ground effect bc Ekranoplan funni

[tired spire]

I mean it's probably not hard to do, but now new players can be confused when landing or taking off, since they're already confused

[vast marten]

maybe using encased fans as propellers

[grizzled compass]

already exists

[subtle marten]

Thwy already do that, they just really weak. Change its strenght with clockwork additions

It adds a setting for it

[grizzled compass]

however what?

[noble hollow]

command blocks are an unbalanced feature that was added only because it was useful for creative mode

[tired spire]

I mean that's the whole point of commands duh

Making more stuff than possible in survival

[noble hollow]

exactly

[cinder berry]

A "Detacher" block could be nice, as in a block that, when activated with redstone, would separate the part of the ship in front of it as it's own independent ship, or possibly disassemble that part to place it in world. An "Attacher" to help with this by grabbing blocks and ships and adding them to the current ship would be amazing too. I can already imagine the possibilities:

Custom-made missiles below a plane that detach and propel forward.
Detachable bombs for an aircraft.
A destroyer deploying depth charges to attack a submarine.
A machine with a big arm attaching to blocks, and detaching elsewhere to move giant parts of structures.
And my personal favourite idea, a mech that uses deployers to assemble a javelin with a drill tip in a backpack, detaches it, and later attaches it to an arm, and throws it.

Its probably a lot of work, but it would massively expand the possibilities!

if there is something like this already, PLEASE tell me where to get it!

[subtle marten]

VSAdditions, and Create stickers

[tired spire]

But only when you put the 2 together
(important detail)

Also not quite the same finctionality

It can attach two ships together, but certainly not merge ships and not disassemble them

[cinder berry]

should still work, thanks
wait, what is VSAdditions, where can i find it?

[tired spire]

It should be on both Modrinth and Curseforge I think

[cinder berry]

this one?

[bleak kiln]

yup

[tired spire]

btw be careful, never attach 2 stickers for the same ship onto a different ship
if you do that, it will be flung out of the solar system

[whole cipher]

Add a 'are you sure?' pop-up that appears if you attempt to right click with the dissassemble option on the creative gravitron. Or atleast make it so it is reset to grab, instead of your last used option, when you equip the creative gravitron.

I just lost about 4 hours of work, on my biggest construction yet, to simply attempting to use the creative gravitron, and expecting it to be on grab. Instead my whole train-themed steampunk trackwork-based tank, dissassembled, while upside down. Making every single block in the wrong orientation, making a simple reassemble, impossible.

so yeah. PLEASE make it harder for this to happen. So another living breathing human does not experience the anguish of watching so much work, get turned into an ugly mess.

[tired spire]

Hold on, what if you
Reassemble
Flip it right side up again
Disassemble
And Reassemble

[whole cipher]

i-
i dont know, but i feel like it probobaly still wouldnt work

[bleak kiln]

you

[whole cipher]

things didnt just dissassembly upside down, its all in the wrong directions too, because it dissassembled at a fucky angle

[bleak kiln]

already have to hold alt to navigate to the dissasemble mode

[whole cipher]

i had used it like a few hours before, and finally brouht the gravitron, from the creative menu, to my hotbar, and used it, and it was on dissassemble.

[bleak kiln]

you didn't read the biggass blue prompt with dissasemble mode selected???

[whole cipher]

my brain wasnt reading, it was 'i need to flip it over and maybe weigh it down with netherite to prevent future flipping-' ing.

i was on autopilot

but i should not be punished for autopilot-ing

[bleak kiln]

i feel like this is on you 😭 you already get a prompt saying it's in dissasemble mode, i don't wanna have to click yes every time i dissasemble sm

[whole cipher]

fair, but how about just having to press alt and scroll everytime you want to dissassemble somthing
just sayinn, i feel like making it so it doesent use the last-selected mode, and is instead on grab, would idiot-proof it slighty

[bleak kiln]

me accidentally yeating my ship trying to dissasemble it

i mean not that clockwork devs read this thread

[whole cipher]

okay but which is worse, accidental yeet or 'and i need to reconstruct every single block now'

[whole cipher]

they're too busy up working they clock 😔

[bleak kiln]

just reassemble it, rotate it 180, dissasemble it, then reassemble it

[whole cipher]

ill try it

[bleak kiln]

they also just really don't care 💀

[whole cipher]

uh, how do you know?

[bleak kiln]

because they haven't read this chat in what, 6 entire months 💀

it's just all dumb shit

[whole cipher]

alr 😭

[tired spire]

Oh damn

[neon rain]

Trackwork tracks being glueable to Physic Bearings

[bleak kiln]

assemble physics bearing

put the wheels/tracks on the physics bearing

[neon rain]

ok

[bleak kiln]

wheel and track blocks are immovable objects for good reason

[subtle marten]

What reason

[bleak kiln]

rotating them would just leave the physics entity where it was since the block would be destroyed

[subtle marten]

There isnt a way for the entities to detect when the block moves?

[bleak kiln]

no that ik of, y'know how cbc gets pissy when assembled or moved

[tough snow]

ability to detect northstar oxygen sealer and temperature regulator

[subtle marten]

Northstar boooo starlance better

[tough snow]

nah

[twin igloo]

What would it take for Hose Pulleys to pull from a body of fluid that isn

't also part of the ship

[languid oasis]

Vs additions

It makes that work

[twin igloo]

Nice

[grizzled compass]

Grrrr

[tough snow]

compatibility with C&A wires connecting connectors on a physics object to a stationary one

[subtle marten]

just use energy interfaces

[tough snow]

oh i didn't know about that, cool

so they're connecting, but no transfer is happening

it was the same when i tried it with a fluid interface, the world fluid tank was emptying, but the ship tank wasn't

[tired spire]

Yeah you need VS:Addition for it to work

Also pumps have to be on both sides in case you only put it on one

[tough snow]

ohh ok, i was going off the ponder which only had it on one side

so you need a connector on both sides too then

[tired spire]

Well the ponder is for contraptions

VS thingies are called ships

[languid oasis]

VS ship ponder compat when 😭

[grizzled compass]

When vs ship in Minecraft schematic support

[dapper oxide]

It has already supported in one of several mod

And, When will the jet engines come?

I cant wait

[tired spire]

If you mean the ability to propel your plane with a lot of hot gas, in the Melting Point update

[dapper oxide]

Melting Point update?

What is it?

[subtle marten]

Next clockwork big update (first actual release)

[oblique basin]

fix the gravitron fly

[subtle marten]

Huh wym

[languid oasis]

‘Pulling yourself up by your own shoes’ with the gravitron, I assume they mean

[subtle marten]

Well thats not an issue

If only the gravitron were a creative exclusive item this would annoy nobody

[wide valve]

Its dangerous to do that though

U might get to the shipyard

And thats quite the point of gravitron

It make things move

[errant mica]

What would actually happen if you loaded terrain in the shipyard

Would it appear in the ship

[wide valve]

No

U wont see anything in the shipyard

Cus its at y-28582758274748

Or snwhere deper

[errant mica]

Ah

Sad times

[tired spire]

How can blocks exist there then?

[bleak kiln]

it would attach to any assembled ships, yes

you can see it with mods that fuck up terrain gen

[wide valve]

Ok

Lemme try using terralith

[hollow shell]

The vs additions built in links on flaps should be default :(

[red mango]

it is

smart flap bearings in melting point

[hollow shell]

Oh so its like a brass version?

I assumed it didnt have them since it wasnt shown in the time I watched Tomato’s screenshare last night

[tired spire]

Wait Tomato is streaming their progress on MP in this server?

[hollow shell]

They were last night allegedly

allegedly

[subtle marten]

Bruh

[crisp mesa]

"allegedly" perchance

[hollow shell]

I also allegedly got to see the ship splitting

Perchance.

Its sick

[crisp mesa]

a slightly buggy version of it

[gloomy sage]

waittt

ik this is old ish now

but are these in clockwork additions??

like in /give or did u remove?

[crisp mesa]

in simplici

[gloomy sage]

where do I aquire this

holy grail

[crisp mesa]

i dont think its out yet

[gloomy sage]

god damn it

ok

no source code either?

[gloomy sage]

is the github available

[crisp mesa]

i dont know

[runic ivy]

no

[gloomy sage]

sadge

[runic ivy]

it was based and open source

but recently became cringe and cl*sed source

[gloomy sage]

I am going to lose it

brother...

[runic ivy]

i wasn't fast enough to clone it

😔

[gloomy sage]

what is with devs closed sourcing free things

wtf

[runic ivy]

ikr

[gloomy sage]

there is no reason to gatekeep a project when other devs could help and test things

and make dev go faster

but ok

[gloomy sage]

no internet archive for it prob either sadge

[velvet igloo]

I'd want to find a way to reattach parts to phys bearings (or shut the phys bearings down if that's not in)

[crisp mesa]

i think this is coming

[red mango]

and other devs could also copy it