Clockwork Suggestion Megathread

[opaque sun]

Yeah there’s nothing that says it has to follow create’s methods, but considering that it is a create addon, it definitely should

[dense ruin]

am i going to have to keep doing variants of the exact same argument another 30 times before you understand the flaw in your own thinking

okay so let me put it this way, if clockwork should follow the style of create then it should not be an addon to vs2 as adding physics and fully intractable contraptions is totally out of scope of create

[tawny wave]

Nullharp's right on this one

[dense ruin]

yk what il give you a two in one and tie this back into minecrafts recent snapshots where we got the copper bulb and crafter, if they want to add new blocks then how can they do that if they also want functionality of said new blocks to be in line with existing blocks that arent even related to it, ex: the crafter should work more like other redstone blocks that drop items so its more in line with existing mechanics

how exactly does that work when crafters never shared squat with them to begin with

[dense ruin]

is bro comin back? im gettin bored here

[opaque sun]

okay now i see your point

[tame prairie]

Did anyone suggest a gyroscope block?

It's a block that has a rotational force input, and it stabilizes the ship.

It could have variable strength bases on rpm of input or additional redstone input

It would be really useful especially for drones and helicopters

[dense ruin]

yea many have suggested it

and also been shot down

[tame prairie]

Yea I assumed so

[tame prairie]

Wdym

[wise orbit]

WALKER WALKER WE NEED WALKERS
Walkers that actually walk

[bold whale]

you can already do that

[bold whale]

#kontraption

[undone hawk]

Bigger weapons

[summer locust]

9x9x20 multiblock railgun

[undone hawk]

But

Bigger

9x9x20 is avarage size

[next wigeon]

learn inverse kinematics and use Distance sensors with some PID controlled motors

[tame prairie]

whats PID

[floral jackal]

Proportional, Integral, Derivative
In this context it's something that used to maintain the position and rotation of something floating mid air

[tame prairie]

is it included in a mod?

[floral jackal]

sort of, a PID can use the propulsion systems that come with clockwork, but to actually be stable in the air would need some help from computer craft

[tame prairie]

Is CC decently simple or complex with VS/Clockwork? (I have some experience coding in C and Java)

[dense ruin]

it uses Lua

so you could learn it in like a weekend and be intermediate easily

[tame prairie]

I heard it's similar to C, but idk

[tame prairie]

Oh ok

[dense ruin]

its closer to python

its very high level

and has dynamic variable declarations, is not oop

and is interpreted fully

[tame prairie]

Okay thanks

[opaque sun]

I like the idea but for some reason adding "one block solutions is bad"

Which makes sense but in my opinion there kinda does need to be things to make the mod easier to play

Ease of use is a big factor in some mods, and having it easy (with some difficult factors) is generally fun to play

[steep plank]

just an idea but using large waterwheels as a paddlewheel on a ship

[floral jackal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797500224997818400/1072017992260538368/1069769451949523054.gif

[novel tangle]

for sum reason the pysic is'nt working on clockwork

pls help

[runic ivy]

no

[novel tangle]

why

[turbid ore]

make a post in #1019674227579813910 instead of here please :)

[bold whale]

@cobalt skiff sigma

https://tenor.com/view/chad-monke-gif-20835999

[fluid onyx]

wen clook wolk

[white shale]

#clockwork-devlog

[open mauve]

rope physics. pls

[floral jackal]

planned

[floral jackal]

Allow the Phys infuser to name ships

[upper ore]

bring back bluperglue because i can't infuse anything

[turbid ore]

Temporary solutions:

1. Use a valkyrien skies ship assembler
2. Use a phys bearing, stick a block in front, activate the bearing, remove the bearing

And in both cases build off of the single phys infused block

[near granite]

Not sure if it’s been brought up yet but linkage kinematics would be sick. Being able to have multiple phys bearings attached to one entity so you could make Jansen linkages and such

[patent summit]

Is any chance to be added a wheel baring like the propeller one?

[turbid ore]

Did you see #1184932299834405064 ?
Phys bearings can do a lot :)

[near granite]

Ah, I hadn't. Maybe I'm just not using them right, but whenever I tried to stack multiple phys bearings onto one entity the "child" bearing would deactivate as soon as the "parent" bearing was triggered and be unable to reactivate and latch onto the block in front of it

I tried several different configurations, hence I assumed maybe there was a code reason like they would bug out being stacked like that. Clearly I'll have to tinker with them more cause I missed something

[unreal cloak]

When I construct a hollow glass container and submerge it in water, it naturally sinks to the bottom. At this point, I'm wondering if it's possible to add a "drain pump" block to enable a sealed space to generate buoyancy. Technically, I believe it can be achieved as follows:

The drain pump initiates a sealing check upon receiving power.
If the sealing check is successful, the entire enclosed space is filled with "sealed air" (a technical block).
"Sealed air" functions as a solid block with zero mass, allowing players to pass through.
When a player is buried in "sealed air," remove the underwater shader, eliminate the slow-down effect underwater, disable swimming, and continuously provide oxygen.
When the "sealed air" block is updated, if there is air or incomplete blocks on any of the six faces, it transforms into air. After a few seconds, it requests block updates from surrounding blocks (this way, when the sealed space is no longer sealed, buoyancy can gradually decrease, resembling a gradual flooding).

This seems like a quite feasible (and technically viable) solution, enabling submarines and entirely iron-clad ships to navigate freely.
Has anyone already proposed this suggestion? If so, I apologize for the disturbance.

[patent oyster]

Base vs2 will get air pocket detection

Automatically

[unreal cloak]

No,the mass of netherrack and warped nylium is 1100kg,and the 8x6x6 cube with air pocket is just sink,obviously the vs2 have no automatically air pocket detection function.

[severe tide]

Yeah we know it doesn’t

Actually yeah tho

If they do air pockets for being in ships.. they should 100% also use said air pockets for calculating build density

[fiery herald]

there is a difference between:
it does have
and
it will have

[severe tide]

yknow..

His test wasn’t even right

Nobody mentioned build density changes from air

Ever

[patent summit]

Well?

[bold whale]

We dont know 🤷

[severe tide]

We literally have phys bearings 😭

[patent summit]

When I enter in a world sometimes the car goes to the sky

why?

[severe tide]

no clue

[patent summit]

It happend to you?

[raw oracle]

1.19 clockwork 🙏🙏🙏

[floral jackal]

It'll get released when done

[open mauve]

rayman should be added

[fast burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/aoi-todo-crying-todou-jujutsu-gif-20070466

[quiet pollen]

1.18.2 clockwork but on curseforge (REAL)

[noble vale]

1.20.4 or 1.21 when that arrives.

[jovial cargo]

physics infuser animation on iris fabric

[bold thicket]

make an opt in role to get pinged for clockwork nightlies

[bold thicket]

Portable storage/fluid/energy (crafts & additions) interface support

[dense ruin]

stuff is already planned to replicate those same functionalities in clockwork

[bold thicket]

Wow thats great!

[heady kiln]

Waterwheels push the (physics entity?) they're on when in water and powered with rotation power

Also fans could give a small amount of momentum

[bold thicket]

I agree with water wheel, disagree with fans

[scarlet brook]

They already do.

[heady kiln]

They do?

[dense ruin]

yes

[lavish sail]

something to make a ship stabilized without the needing of CC

[hidden cobalt]

^^^ To that end, making Altitude Meters work like Threshold switches would be great, so that it could output different signals based on what height it is above, or a configurable gradient. This would allow feeding comparator output to a redstone resistor that changes the speed of a propellor.

[lavish sail]

loved the aproach

for real a cool way to solve the problem

[dense ruin]

never happening

not like that at least

[polar kite]

some way of generating su that is compact and that generates a decent amount

[floral jackal]

Combustion engine

[fiery herald]

there is one? it uses frosting tho

[floral jackal]

I mean, they're suggesting it in clockwork so they should know about that

[lavish sail]

talking about a way to stabilize a ship, it would be cool to see something like a gyro sensor that emits a redstone signal at configurable angles so we could automatically check for under and over steer

[dense ruin]

okay thats at least slightly more possible of happening

no promises tho since im not a dev

[lavish sail]

yeah, in general i just think it would be great to have the tools to stablize a ship without needing to code it in CC i can see it coming in handy for a lot of thing when it comes to base creation and large ships

[dense ruin]

the issue is implenting something thats not just a magic solution while still allowing you to actually make stable stuff

[lavish sail]

yeah, i had some toughts arround that

and i can't see a way to do it without some kinda of altitude or rotation sensor

[ancient grove]

making it less magical and interactive could be something like paired sensors (up to 4 maybe) you place at the middle and sides/corners of your creation or something of the like. The gyro could just try and keep them flat in their orientation

[lime herald]

I don’t know if it was requested, planned, or impossible but maybe let the physics bearing work on eureka ships

So I can make awesome naval turrets

[dense ruin]

pretty sure it works

idk

someone else can confirm or deny that

there is zero reason it SHOULDENT work

eureka "ships" dont exist

there is no eureka ship, there is no clockwork ship

its just a ship

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-23880338

[severe tide]

😭 bet you haven’t even tried it yourself and just assumed it didn’t work

[lime herald]

I have tried and anything on the phy bearing fell straight off the bearing

[severe tide]

What

So you put it on the bearing

And activated the bearing

and then it fell off?

[lime herald]

Yes

Was that a bug?

[floral jackal]

Are you perhaps assembling the phys bearing into a ship while it has its own subship?

Because that can cause the subship to fall off

And idk if it's a bug that needs to be fixed

[livid smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/plane-pippi-longstocking-flying-gif-8652779

[gloomy sage]

@neat nimbus you should make a bug bloopers video after the release this would be the perfect song to use in it https://open.spotify.com/track/2RtMHo3NwZYXBnvXYUBNyd?si=5dc3810c94414389

[dark halo]

you probably made it a ship after you started the physics bearing

[polar kite]

durable tracks

for trackwork

[polar kite]

physics defuser

[nocturne gate]

look at their gravitron video 🤡

[polar kite]

where is that

[nocturne gate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1154195736402075668/1190344133185904731/2023-12-29_18-21-44.mp4?ex=65a1755c&is=658f005c&hm=b47b977ad3f7e5e151fbaa4b0bacea36045e9eb2e3c2447c9997279252578f1a&

[digital thorn]

Gravity gun that just makes ships heavier

[cedar drum]

trackwork

add rocket nozzles that are angleable kinda like thrusters on spaceships. make them work like flap bearings but with 2 axises

[graceful summit]

packed iron block basically is just a big weight

[dense ruin]

netherite

[ancient grove]

For when melting point comes out, it'd be very neat if it was possible to "cover up" an exhaust for a while to make it build up pressure and uncover it to release it all at once for a burst of speed. Maybe with a valve or just slapping a block on it.
It'd also be neat because you could maybe use a temperature/pressure gauge for an automatic redstone release so you don't blow up

[dense ruin]

wow an actually unique and good suggestion

i love your suggestion

[ancient grove]

Yeah while experimenting with an airship I was dealing with problems getting up to speed (sheer amount of weight from steam engines giving it a shit ton of mass) but could maintain it fine once I was there. There wasn't any easy way to get up to speed faster without adding way more weight for more steam engines and propellers so yeah, having the ability to build up pressure while not moving then release it all at once would be great.

[restive prism]

Would be cool if we could have 'engine parts' like reinforced cogs/shafts that don't break when you exceed the current stress limit for those parts. That way you can get propellers to spin stupidly fast and subsequently produce more thrust without having to add more sails, would need to make those sorts of parts a lot more expensive/harder to make in a survival setting though so it isn't too broken if used in a standard mechanical build.

[sour cargo]

??? do you mean overspeed? stuff doesn't break in create when you overstress, it just stops

[sleek flame]

magnet

[restive prism]

yeah sorry that's a better explanation, I mean that if you use gear sequences to get something to spin faster than it can handle one of the cogs break. And the idea was that for better propulsion to bypass that problem by making reinforced versions of those items to allow higher prop rpm

[ancient grove]

good luck getting the stress for that when you can only double speed lmao

[sour cargo]

You could just up the max speed in the create config

[open mauve]

there should be rayman

in mod =]

[sonic token]

funny list of ideas

• movement ideas
• compleatly unoriginal movement ideas

1. tank tracks ( can be belts, adds a dash of complexity as to how to power them and stuff )
2. wheels blocks ( just a rounded block / blocky block that has a circular physiscs interaction box ) [ hollow wheels / rim powered wheels, imagine general greviouses monowheel bike thing ]

• more unique

3. drills / screws ( a tube like rotating body with friction )
4. hydrolic pistons ( pieces that extend and push the entity forwards )

• funny utility ideas

1. rope / chain physics ( could be funny for catapults, towing, 3D belt work and other things )
2. sensors that can detect other clockwork / VS2 entities ( and just anything really, detecting everything can help with funny redstone / create coding )
3. modifiable joints / angled joints / bearings ( the current free axel bearing thing doesn't have any lean in it, would be nice to be able to move joints outwards )
4. grinders / drill interaction with / between VS2 entities ( either between the entities or between entities and world )

[serene quest]

Add gay back

[near robin]

CV joints:

• a type of shaft which can transfer rotational force between Clockwork vehicles/ships/physics bodies

• implementation: akin to the create mod portable storage interface place one half of the joint on one body, and the other half on the other. If they are within a certain hit-box then transfer rotational power from one to another as if it were a solid shaft

[hasty vale]

thats very similar to the propagator bearing of interactive

[lime yarrow]

you can't like your own opinions

it makes you look desperate

[sonic token]

not really, since it's meant to interact between different ships, not just different sections of 1 ship

[dark halo]

also the propagator bearing kinda sucks for rotational transfer (with current implementation) cus it has to be spinning to transfer

[hasty vale]

oh, true

[sonic token]

also another reccomendation for ship to ship / ship to world interaction would be fixing entities that come off of ships, such as arrows not magically phasing out of existance when fired or tnt not falling trough the world

that kind of thing

[feral crane]

What about something like a plane/ship schedule that works like a train schedule. Mobs could drop things off, pick things up, etc.

[serene quest]

Iam.

[neat saffron]

Make portable interfaces work with assembled stuff

[lime yarrow]

what

[restive prism]

A more in depth red stone controller would be great, currently working on a large scale plane and I’m realising that the buttons needed to simulate realistic plane movement aren’t available, currently have pitch and roll available but no yaw, ground handling for aircraft is also pretty hard because the direction of the forward wheel doesn’t indicate where the aircraft will go because the aircraft is only working on the direction of thrust, only workaround I’ve found so far is to keep two levers on hand in the flight deck that power the clutches behind propeller bearings, if I disable one engine it allows the aircraft to yaw in the direction of the clutched engine. Works alright for ground handling, but trying to control the aircraft mid air is a lot harder when only 2/3 primary flight controls are available

Currently working on a B777-200

[tame oyster]

hello, who can help me with altitude meter

I don't know how to activate it

[dark halo]

try tweaked controllers

[tame oyster]

hello, who can help me with altitude meter

I don't know how to use it

[dark halo]

you dont

tho if you want to, it either outputs or doesnt based on its height

so not too useful

the only real way to have an automatic flight control thing rn is to just use computer craft

[tame oyster]

So it's not working?

[dark halo]

it 'works'

but its essentially useless unless you want to know if youre above a very specific nblocks

[sleek flame]

idk how easy it is to implement but it would be cool if wings would have more lift when theyre close to the ground like in real life

[dark halo]

ground effect would be cool

maybe also for propellors to make simple hovercraft

[cedar drum]

also a pancake effect too

[open mauve]

rayman

[restive prism]

Something like a 'smart' flap bearing would be cool, that way it could be programmed to a specific angle rather than the preset one in the current bearing for more controlled movements

[restive prism]

where would I find that? been scrolling through cureforge forever trying to find it

[neat saffron]

search it

or actually

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/create-tweaked-controllers

im in a good mood today

@restive prism

[cedar drum]

ey

is there one that adds controllers with just more buttons?

like if that one was configureable to work with a keyboard it would be good

[neat saffron]

The one i just sent would be the only i could Think Of

[nocturne gate]

I think its meant to work with ps4 controller

[azure hedge]

A bearing that propogates rotation through it, as well as having an input on the side to rotate the attatched entity
(might be better in interactive)
Or a free spinning propogation bearing, could rotate it using external forces but would propogate rotation through it

Thoughts? (Or idea on how toa cheive the same effect using current mechanics + interactive)

[edgy vessel]

server compatibility?

[azure hedge]

(for context, im trying to make a big airship with flat side props, and I want to be able to tilt them)

[severe tide]

They are kinda smart anyways

A smaller charge does a smaller angle

[azure hedge]

figured it out.

second prop bearing counteracts first prop bearins rotation while still propogating rotation, allowing for independent rotating of the end part, while propogating speed

[azure hedge]

welp, my hopes have been dashed yet again by the fact that propeller bearings on propogator bearings do not provide lift. How many updates till we get a physics propogator bearing? I know the current one was alwyas planned to be, but will that be in the next update, or some indeterminate time in the future?

[restive prism]

Much appreciated 😄

[astral walrus]

I downloaded clockwork from forge, does anyone know why I can’t use the physics infuser. Also, what is the auric designator for?

[neat saffron]

it's broken

fabric physics infuser is better

use eureka

[cedar drum]

that is what we all already knew im pretty sure

[spring urchin]

what version do clockwork use?

[nocturne gate]

1.16.5

[sonic token]

1

[cedar drum]

hey

add a feature

to

attack vs ships to physics bearings

like

if u accidentally break a phys bearing

it would be cool

to be able to not have to rebuild ur whole turret

also

the ability to attach 2 vs ships together

would be also

very cool

[vernal harbor]

Would be outstanding if phys bearings assembled the same way as standard Create bearings and not only with verbatim glue.
For example, a set of linear chassis, with glue at the end, would assemble all the chassis and whatever is at the end of them. On a phys bearing however, only the first linear chassis is assembled. For complex builds, this makes it very hard to schematic and replicate builds, since you have to glue everything together, in stages, each time you place a schematic.
Hopefully this isn't problematic from a technical perspective

[astral walrus]

What do the altitude meter and reaction wheel do?

[nocturne gate]

Nothing

[dark halo]

something

[dense wind]

Reaction wheel is left overs from old discord integration, you could use it to react to updates in the clockwork

[floral jackal]

VScord tying to be helpful challenge (impossible 😱)

[boreal pendant]

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[nocturne gate]

Shut up low karma user

[open mauve]

rayman

[ruby breach]

keep yourself safe

[boreal pendant]

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[nocturne gate]

Low karma sheeple

[lime yarrow]

yez

[nocturne gate]

@summer locust this muppet is advocating for suicide

Can you do the jor jor well funni?

[lime yarrow]

how to get karma

[nocturne gate]

Not being a sheep

[ruby breach]

literally 1849

as expected from a liboral

[severe tide]

is it bad that people in another server focus most of their jokes around puns of my name like plibberal..

(Add this concept it would be a good item and needs very little explanation)

[nocturne gate]

Is it ironic?

[weary scarab]

Please make it so that if you use a physics bearing to create a phys object you can right click it to remove it again. I keep having to destroy and rebuild all my creations, not to mention I want to anchor my vehicles at some point.

[severe tide]

I have no idea anymore

I don’t think so

[nocturne gate]

Sounds like a toxic server tbh

[severe tide]

No it’s just strange

[crystal wagon]

low priority but if auric ore generation could be configurable that’d be cool. i just want to make it spawn higher in floating islands rather than underground

[halcyon umbra]

fly-o-meter (counting blocks flied per second) for eg. 10 b/s
will be nice for airships and planes

[severe tide]

or you could just speak like a normal person and say speedometer

[shut acorn]

Just askin

[nocturne gate]

Acktually speedometer already exists in create so it would be confusing for players to have multiple items that do different things and have the same name🤓

[severe tide]

🥱 shame

[dark halo]

altitude meter should have a configurable analog output, where the upper and lower heights can be adjusted

[ripe beacon]

assuming this isn’t already planned, please change the texture of the gyro’s base? because of the red lights that come from the altitude meter’s base i thought it was powered by redstone and i’m afraid it could be misleading to other people

[restive prism]

Would it be possible to make it so you can interact with rotation speed controllers and creative motors to adjust speeds whilst in a command seat or other seat? Biggest issue I currently have with flying planes is that I can't effectively control my thrust whilst in the air without having to get out of my seat at which point the aircraft continues flying without me and disappears over the horizon

[thin ermine]

A link that when it measures a determined inclination sends a redstone signal to the connected block

[severe tide]

a what the how when

[thin ermine]

no redstone signal when upright, yes redstone signal when tilted

when placed with a not gate on a clutch can have a propeller only spin when tilted to help keep it upright

[red mango]

at best

that will just lead to constant oscillation

[thin ermine]

Not really

[red mango]

at worst, it’ll just make any ship with a propeller crash itself whenever it tilts too much

[thin ermine]

Besiege has them and that there's not that much oscillation

[thin ermine]

If you mix the signals

[thin ermine]

like this

[gloomy sage]

Yeah this was what I did right when interactive came out and the independent motion is cool but it's sad that you can't use them on clockwork things without them bugging the fuck out

[dark halo]

do this but have it give analog output in the vertical direction i.e. outputs 15 at top when upright, when started tilting starts outputting higher on sides when it starts tilting

[whole cipher]

If a ship is heavy enough, or moving fast enough, it should break leaves, and logs. That way my massive car can roll through forests like nothing, and leave behind a trail of missing trees. SImmilarly, perhaps if you get this tree destruction working, you could also have it change grass blocks to dirt blocks when you roll over them. (to create tire tracks.)

[red mango]

not a clockwork feature

[whole cipher]

it implies cars

which are only possible

with phys bearings

which are from clockwork

._.

[red mango]

no?

you can make cars with debug hinges and tournament thrusters

hell

those were the first VS2 cars before clockwork

[whole cipher]

oh

well then

sorry

[red mango]

also #about-trackwork

[whole cipher]

i can delete my message if ya want

[red mango]

don’t be sorry

be better

and or richer

[prisma obsidian]

I have an Idea

I dont know if it was posted yet but it doesnt matter

could you add something that you can drop with a redstone signal

and something that when is comes into contact with a block sends out a redstone signal

[turbid summit]

sticker

also for the second suggestion, use the observer thigny

[severe tide]

Have you heard of sand

[prisma obsidian]

No I mean a like a block that allows that for a structure

[nocturne gate]

redstone contact

For second

If it doesn't work already it most likely will in the future

[prisma obsidian]

No you need a second one for that

I mean something that detect any block

[nocturne gate]

if you're not against using other mods

[prisma obsidian]

Or physics object

[nocturne gate]

some_peripherals by @runic ivy adds a raycaster

Can see physics objects and entities

As well as world blocks

But it's a fake mod

@runic ivy bad coder

[open mauve]

add rayman

https://tenor.com/view/rayman-yay-peace-gif-22031437

[dawn lotus]

it would be sick to have a pilot system on planes like trains in vanilla create, that will be so helpful for so much stuff, is it possible ?

[runic ivy]

possible? yes

will anybody do it? no

why? it will be extremely fucking hard

[dawn lotus]

makes sense ig 😔

[marble canyon]

guys should just correct unstables and launch a pre-release of clockwork, it would be cool(sorry for the bad english im south american)

[ancient grove]

It'd be really nice if blocks like propellers and physics bearings couldn't be rotated by the wrench. or, if it's too hard coded have them fall off instead of dissasembling in the case of propellers. .

[ripe beacon]

just fix the mod

[nocturne gate]

Does replay mod have support yet?

@solid meteor wants to know

[celest scaffold]

ideas:1) make a sensor that determines which way the airship is tilted (for more precise control) 2)sensors (lasers)which can be configured for certain blocks (will give a redstone signal) 3) (new mechanics) interaction of physical objects with liquids (placed on other buildings or in the ordinary world)
And yes, it was written with the help of a translator

[halcyon umbra]

there exists a speedometer already dumbass

[severe tide]

you could just say “add an object that tells you a ship’s current speed”

[ebon shadow]

I suggest adopting clockwork on optifine

I suggest adding something sticky, a sticky block that would stick to the walls

[dark halo]

a sticker? one could say

[nocturne gate]

🤥

You cant say that word here

[dark halo]

nuh uh

[boreal pendant]

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[runic ivy]

no

[ripe beacon]

its impossible to make anything for optifine because its closed source and i think it alters minecraft itself as well

and sodium/embeddium is just. better. straight up. more performance

[nocturne gate]

Sodium and embeddium crash your game

As most fabric mods do

[tired spire]

Would be nice if large waterwheels acted as paddle wheels if spinning
Unless they already do

I know it's kind of as useless as encased fans producing thrust, just think it would be cool if added

[dense wind]

its annoying, fans don't do your cooking when on ships, they provide thrust

[dawn birch]

Add Phys propagator bearing

[ancient grove]

Pretty sure they do if they blow onto a depot or belt instead of just the item. Might be wrong though, I just remember having that issue while making cannons

[crude sandal]

Altitude sensor display output for alt, and a remote with W,A,S,D,Q,E,Space,Ctrl. remote would be amazing for helicopters

[rotund veldt]

Remove the bugs

[severe tide]

What did spiders do to you

[sacred crag]

a deployer on a contraption thats on a clockworked ship places in the world grid, not the ships grid. would be cool to have an option to chose the ships grid to place on

for the record, its not just big cannons

[modern hare]

I don't know if this is the right thread for this, but I was hoping to crash a train into a bunch of individual blocks, but the train just clipped through them, and nothing happened. Is it possible to add compatibility with Create trains to let them either plow through the blocks, or to crash/possibly derail the train depending on the weight of the train/physics blocks?

All the items I used here are vanilla/create, asides from the C:S&R headlights

I do have other create addons enabled but none of them should be effecting this

[tired spire]

Can we please have a camera in case we need to see stuff inside the plane, like the bomb bay or the cargo bay when airdropping things? Or maybe just for remote control stuff? I know Konnie is eventually supposed to have something like a camera, but maybe just a camera block for now?

[solid meteor]

konnie?

[dark halo]

camera is prob smth for a diff mod

[solid meteor]

use securitycraft

those cameras work on ships i think

[modern hare]

Nevermind, Create Interactive fixes this

[outer copper]

A proper sails system would be a really nice addition.

Concept idea I had was that it starts in a furled state as a single block, and you lay multiple sail blocks out in a row at the top of where you want your sail. Then it can be lowered like a pulley through any rotational input, but instead of lowering a rope, it lowers the sail "blocks" from every sail block in the row. A forward force is generated from each exposed sail "block", allowing you to adjust how much speed you have by adjusting how much sail is showing.

Would allow more traditional sailboat builds in Clockwork without having to hide propellers and engines, or as a nice functional and aesthetic addition to airships.

[vale heath]

__**It looks like you're trying to download Clockwork! <:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919><:GODSAVEUS:1100326395906891919>**__

You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.

Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin for Forge, or Fabric Language Kotlin, both of which can be found on both CurseForge and Modrinth, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can be found on Modrinth. It also requires the latest version of the Create mod. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.

Also note that Clockwork is currently available for Minecraft 1.18.2, 1.19.2 and 1.20.1, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.

[nocturne gate]

Bad bot

[vale heath]

@nocturne gate touch grass

[dense wind]

@vale heath
Thoughts?

[nocturne gate]

@vale heath

[vale heath]

@nocturne gate WheAre CLoKCowRk DwonmLoaD

[twilit merlin]

Because auric ore is so rare, I propose a structure called a meteor or something idk, basically the spawn randomly and they are made of deepslate and auric ore

[rotund veldt]

bro think it ae2

[twilit merlin]

do u mean aeronautics?

[rotund veldt]

???

you better not be an aeronautics muppet

[twilit merlin]

I aint, but wtf do you mean by ae2?

[rotund veldt]

do you not know ae2

[twilit merlin]

is it an acronym?

[rotund veldt]

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-oppenheimer-meme-oppenheimer-stare-opps-gif-15308305416107220221

Thats crazy

[twilit merlin]

dam no answer

[rotund veldt]

Applied energenistics 2

popular mod

[twilit merlin]

does it have meteors with ore?

[rotund veldt]

Yes

[twilit merlin]

I might have subconsiously stolen that tbh 💀

[last gale]

anyone know where i can download 1.0.0-alpha1 clockwork forge 1.18.2 didnt find it in nightlies section

[vale heath]

__**It looks like you're trying to download Clockwork!**__

You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.

Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin for Forge, or Fabric Language Kotlin, both of which can be found on both CurseForge and Modrinth, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can be found on Modrinth. It also requires the latest version of the Create mod. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.

Also note that Clockwork is currently available for Minecraft 1.18.2, 1.19.2 and 1.20.1, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.

[glad remnant]

Maybe have ships deal damage upon impact to things?
A simple way to calculate would be ship mass x velocity x some constant

Might be worth calculating the direction of the velocity relative to the target so people don’t die from walking into the side of a ship

An extension to this would be damage to the blocks of the ship, which could be shown by the break animation just being paused at a certain point

A lot of work but something to mull over
Would pave the way for projectiles and ram attacks to work well

Thinking because someone might want to make a rail gun type situation which atm would just bounce off the enemy

[rotund veldt]

add

[scarlet brook]

Just use the real kinetic energy formula. M*v^2

[glad remnant]

OOPS

Forgot the squared

Ive been away from physics class for too long

[rotund veldt]

Add support for

[severe tide]

Bro was doing momentum first

😭

[turbid summit]

The coefficient is going to be hard

[rotund veldt]

Remove the bugs

[solid meteor]

bugs r fun

[pulsar locust]

LiDAR sensor -
It would put out a red stone signal when it is a curtain distance to an object in a certain direction. This would be really useful for elevators on airships that you want to be a curtain distance to the ground.

[severe tide]

Curtain

[tired spire]

Is that a unit from imperial?

[scarlet brook]

He's mispelling "certain".

[tired spire]

No, I know that, is the joke really that bad?

[cobalt skiff]

this is actually such a good idea

though it could proably done with CC

[nocturne gate]

@runic ivy's mod some_peripherals with either the raycaster or the radar block

[tired spire]

Fix the bug where in order for a gyro to work it has to rotate in a specific direction, it's just a bit annoying

[severe tide]

Make using it the wrong way flip it 180 degrees

[rotund veldt]

Make

[open mauve]

add this picture :

[twilit merlin]

yes

[ebon shadow]

To make sure that physical blocks can come into contact with water, like, let's not let it into enclosed spaces

[slate forge]

Wanderwand / Auric infuses instantly if in creative mode

[meager fern]

camra mod

physic bearings need to be able to unassembled stuff

[tired spire]

I thought the Gravitron can?

[fervent elm]

It can, but from my experience, it isn't relative to the ship it's on, so it can get annoying if ya need to use it on larger contraptions

[fervent elm]

As for suggestions, it'd be nice to have a way to limit the possible angles on the bearings or a separate block that can do so.
Using blocks works well enough, but can get pretty buggy, depending on the scale

Also maybe a way to recall/realign stuff on bearings, for when it does get buggy

[twilit merlin]

a

[exotic niche]

Radar and a targeting suite

[tired spire]

Isn't that what Valkyrien Computers does?

[rare zephyr]

Can we get clockwork on modrinth

[dusky maple]

make the steam pipe, so you can get your steam through it and push some things, useful for making catapults on ships, pulling up things really quick and pushing things when steam come to the end of the pipe

Making so heat from engine can actually kill you and that if your fluid tank catches on fire whole thing blows up

[frozen flower]

nvm 💀

[ebon shadow]

Fix the flywheel hitbox bug (Cteate)

[fair coral]

MAKE A CHANNEL

[slate forge]

why is the WONDERWAND SO LOUD

[dawn birch]

Add the connection with Portable Storage Interface and Portable Fluid Interface between physics objects and between physics object with world

[solid meteor]

Theres a whole plan for steam i think with melting point

[tired spire]

This is more fitting for a space add-on, but I think solid fuel boosters would be a cool thing to add
With how I see it, you first need to catch a small magma cube into a new block (similarly to blaze burners), and add some blaze powder in a crafting table
After doing that you stack these blocks in a line, add any block at the front and a nozzle at the back
To ignite the thing you need to power the nozzle block with redstone or maybe directly tie it to a redstone link frequency

Maybe also add different sizes of boosters with different sizes of magma cubes used for them, and a way to adjust the speed at which the booster burns

[restive quartz]

Add the arrow place feature to wings please. is a hassele to build larger wing areas this way

[static nest]

some sort of collision mechanic would be cool 👀

oh and a support for create: crafts & additions wirings on two separate entities would also be cool. tried using connectors and wirings to power a wheel using electric motors and alternators but the wires won't connect onto one another and says that 'wire is too long'. pretty neat way of powering wheels without the bulkiness of having to build a separate engine per wheel + suspension can be brought in the mix

either that or some sort of way to transfer rotational power from a non phys bearing affected contraption to a phys bearing affected one

[rare zephyr]

Clockwork on modrinth

[runic ivy]

just use curseforge

[rare zephyr]

I can’t because the mc host doesnt support curseforge

[runic ivy]

choose a better mc host then

[rare zephyr]

Is it that much more work to upload some files to modrinth?

Like vs and interactive are already on modrinth

[nocturne gate]

Modrinth is all malware

Do not support modrinth

[ancient grove]

don't support anyone, everyone is evil

[static nest]

real

[open mauve]

Add image :

[scarlet brook]

Add image:

[tired spire]

This should pop up when you die from being hit by a plane

(Also I know it's a heli on the image, but how the hell would the mod know if it's one or the other)

[torpid pulsar]

Cool idea: man

[gritty stirrup]

only use 9minecraft
the best source of mods

[open mauve]

add rayman

[frozen mist]

Add working clocks

[nocturne gate]

Add physics clockwork bearing

You cant call your mod c ockwork without making the c ockwork bearing have physics

[tired spire]

Can we get an ornithopter bearing for building insect-like ornithopters? I know it's pretty niche, but it just sounds like such a cool thing to fly

A giant dragonfly

[severe tide]

Are there no adequate bearings for the job currently?

[fervent elm]

Physics bearings with flap bearings work well enough in my experience, tho you have to restrict their movement with blocks

[scarlet brook]

OK but ornitho- = birds

ornithology and all that

OG Dune literature had bird-like ornithopters

Leonardo Da Vinci (and many others after him) tried to create bird-like flying machines they called ornithopters (till they figured out airplanes were better).

[tired spire]

Ik, but I thought an ornithopter is anything that flaps its wings to fly?

[scarlet brook]

ehhh technically yeah

but ornitho- is a prefix meaning bird

And all the real ornithopter attempts were like birds.

[tired spire]

I mean those work, but not for that kind of ornithopter

[fervent elm]

there are several insect-like ornithopters

[fervent elm]

agreed, but enough for now imo

[severe tide]

Insects also flap wings

Just in a slightly different manner

It’s not like they just flap their wings up and down and somehow make enough lift from literally nothing to move upward

But yeah a bearing to achieve an ornithopter is unrealistic since no matter what, an ornithopter requires at least two bearings/joints to make lift

[tired spire]

Everything you said is true, but I don't think Clockwork is trying to be realistic
I mean we literally had frosting as fuel in the past, and now we even have magic levitating ore

And that's also adding extra unneeded complexity when we can just have one block for it

[tired spire]

Suggestion: can we please get a way to adjust a gyro using redstone? Maybe a separate block for that if it interferes with too many people's contraptions?

I mean technically you can turn gyros on and off by cutting power to them or use a gimbal thing, but redstone controlling them would've been so much more convenient if you need to make like a helicopter

[severe tide]

Frosting works as fuel

It’s full of sugar so it’s incredibly energy dense

[turbid summit]

The way ornithopter work require 2 section

unless you want just a section that flap

[severe tide]

mhm

well thats not an ornithopter then

[turbid summit]

which at this point physic bearing work right?

[severe tide]

thats just a big flapping thing that doesnt fly

[turbid summit]

just need to found a way to generate lift by flapping

[turbid summit]

lol

If you want to make a ornithopter instead of usggesting ornithopter bearing suggest sail that can caught wind

so physic bearing with enough speed can also fly

[severe tide]

what about by yapping bc im goood at that

[turbid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/snail-snail-review-review-gif-23439024

[tired spire]

Magic levitating ore is still not a thing however

[lean hazel]

what about something like:
a sort of spike-like block that when placed on a ship, can damage entities and blocks when it collides with them at high speed
or
a combination of said spike block and a tool bearing (like the propeller bearing)
that allows you to make custom drills and saws. in this case the tool bearing could have more stress impact the more spikes are attached

[cedar drum]

add the afterblazers back

[fervent elm]

That's already in the works

[tired spire]

I know it's not directly related to aircraft, but can we get a copycat casing? Something that can act as an andesite/copper casing (you can encase shafts, pipes and cogs), but also a copycat block, so we can blend those in with the rest of the plane without adding weight due to extra blocks

And also floats for clockwork or trackwork, because right now we have to install eureka for those, and they don't sound like something hard to add (I am in no way a mod dev so I do not actually know if it's easy to add those)

[patent tree]

the fuck is this

oi i fucked your mum bud

[velvet fjord]

Having lodestones work whilst being a physics object would be cool, if you strapped one to a vehicle and got thrown off the vehicle somehow, you could still attempt to look for it with a compass bound to the vehivle's lodestone.

[buoyant barn]

Mini glider from subnautica

[scarlet heron]

make it so liquids also get carried along when you add physics to things so you can create self sustaining steam engines on board

[tired spire]

1. That's a VS2 suggestion
2. That's already a thing

[scarlet heron]

Yeah I just tested it mb

[tired spire]

Can encased fans with lava produce more thrust than regular ones? Like an actually good amount of thrust, comparable to a 4 sail prop

I just think it might be a nice addition if you need to rotate a thing

[solar pollen]

Wanderwand selection working like Create Schematic selection. Like hold control and scroll to select point in empty space

[lean hazel]

omg that would be amazing
I second this
though this definitely has absolutely nothing to do with clockwork, and I imagine won't be added by clockwork devs

[lean hazel]

do fans produce thrust?
I didn't know that
I mean, it makes sense

oh, what if they had more traction in water, so you could use them as boat propellers?

[severe tide]

A TIINY bit

[tired spire]

Yeah sounds like a cool idea

[lean hazel]

while this would basically be a thruster
imo it doesn't really make enough physical sense, and
the thruster will be returning in some form in the melting point update I believe

[tired spire]

I guess...

[lean hazel]

not sure if this would be too complicated
What if you could produce thrust by blasting liquid fuel?

it would look like fan -> lava -> some liquid
and would consume the liquid fuel

it's kinda like heat+fuel+oxidizer

[tired spire]

So basically straight up a jet engine?

But with rotation not coming from the engine itself I guess

[tired spire]

Would there have to be some injector block?

[lean hazel]

I was thinking just a fluid pump to dispense the actual fuel
but a special block could help to make it more precise

[tired spire]

Wouldn't it become a block of liquid if it's just a pipe?

[lean hazel]

yeah
hold on I'll get a quick picture of what I have in my head

my first idea was something like this
Where the red stuff is fuel (it's not actually, but just as an example)
and blasting it would make thrust and consume the fuel

you probably wouldn't have them right next to eachother in practice, since the lava would flow over

or maybe what you said, and have like a fuel injector block that you put fluid into
similar to the steam engine

[tired spire]

Yeah that's probably not getting added to clockwork, and to me an actual multiblock jet engine seems better than this idea

Cool idea nonetheless👍

[lean hazel]

ah, fair

[solid meteor]

why is the fucking lava not flowing

[lean hazel]

It's just barrier blocks

[obsidian raven]

Idk if its been suggested but a version of the physics bearing that propagates SU to the subgrid

[solid meteor]

wharg

[obsidian raven]

like this

so you can power the moving section without needing ender transmission

[solid meteor]

...physics bearing to turn turret, propagator bearing for this

[halcyon umbra]

fuel

[tribal crypt]

work

ockwork

clockwork suggestion: return *ockwork

ai upscaled ™️

[tribal crypt]

corkfork 💀

[static nest]

working wheel-like blocks that only cover one block

phys bearing wheels are big and bulky especially for plane contraptions

[severe tide]

what

How would that work

Like a block that’s just a roller that put on its own

Without any kind of create input?

[turbid summit]

he want a wheel that has diameter of 1 block

[severe tide]

But

If it’s diameter is one block

On any of the physics bearing type blocks we have

It just won’t roll

since all of those blocks are one block wide

😭

[static nest]

ye basically something that could act as some sort of a landing gear lol somethign that will make you fly straight and still make it look like a wheel and not just a block

[turbid summit]

then add one lmao

[tired spire]

I mean you can use suspension tracks from Trackwork

Without the sprockets they don't have any tracks on them

So they look like wheels

But I'm not sure if you can adjust the suspension strength without the sprockets on

[static nest]

fair enough, that should do

just gotta wait for 1.20.1 update on trackwork tho lol

[neat pollen]

ability to launch physics objects with gravity gun

[clear kelp]

phys bearing got a rotatable enchanting table hitbox

allow for some silly designs

[severe tide]

okay but there’s still gearboxes and whatnot

[clear kelp]

what about it?

[severe tide]

big block

[clear kelp]

...

[hollow token]

ability to push physical blocks, or handles to push

[nocturne gate]

You can already accomplish this with a piston

[meager fern]

not on the bearing i dont think

i was meaning how normal bearings can let u disassemble them

[shut grail]

what if clockwork added a new fluid "Compressed / Pressurized Air" and you could propel your ship by simply having a open pipe end pointing in the direction we want to move away from, with thrust equal to how pressurized the air is

[long glacier]

make propellers more effective in liquids than air (like irl it's easier to push against a denser fluid)

[dense scaffold]

How do flaps work in the current clockwork versions?

Like I have a plane, but I cant control it

And my plane keeps turning when I dont want it to, with like the propellor

[twilit merlin]

thats like... exactly what heated gas (being added in melting point) is...

[shut grail]

You need to use the flap bearing. Provide it with rotation and a redstone signal from the side and the flap will turn depending on the side the flap bearing is powered from

[shut grail]

Your plane is probably unbalanced.

[shut grail]

I have never heard of a addon called melting point

[final ingot]

If ur not using flap bearings

Use it now

If you are,

[twilit merlin]

its the next update for clockwork

[final ingot]

Disassemble and reassemble

Make sure flaps are glued

[final ingot]

F3b opens hitboxes. Go into spectator mode and see if theres a yellow box in your airplane

Yellow hitbox

That hitbox is your center of mass

Keep it in the middle

Wings generate lift automatically

Which means if you dont have a equal amount on both sides

It will automatically go in the direction that lacks wings

[final ingot]

Clockwork update

They add heat system

[twilit merlin]

alr told him

[final ingot]

👍

[dense scaffold]

I am using them

[final ingot]

Then unassemble reassemble

[rough heath]

Schematicannon on board a ship should be able to build blocks attached to the ship, example, Space Engineers & it's projectors.

My idea is to enable my aircraft carrier airship to rebuild compartments in the event they become damaged, or even replace an entire engine pod or refit an entire room while on the move.

[quiet pollen]

add back the jet engines and maybe idk stupidly fast rocket engines from kontraption

[dense wind]

shorten your name so we can actually see what you're saying\

[tulip bridge]

make its so that water doesnt faze into the entity like in boats

[runic ivy]

planned

[twilit merlin]

Name too long, opinion rejected

planned

yeah thats planned

probably, idk what mp update is 💀

oh yeah, idk if its being added in mp, ask spaceEye

[dense scaffold]

latest version of clockwork does not work at all with planes, what am I doing wrong?

[twilit merlin]

wdym

[dense scaffold]

I built a plane, the I assembled it, and had all the necessary parts, but it just turned to the right, when I activated the propeller, and didn't go up. Also I could'nt control it, so am I missing something?

[twilit merlin]

build it better I guess

[dense scaffold]

Bruh, ok

Ok

My last plane(the exact same design), glitched out

Ok

Yes

Sometimes my plane starts moving out of nowhere

My plane is possesed

lol

[turbid summit]

Bismillah brother

[quiet pollen]

hi i have long name but suggestion: idk if this in game already but make physics bearings require more stress the heavier your ship/contraption is, so like if you make a car you actually need strong power, like several steam engines/ tfmg or c:dg generators

[dense scaffold]

No

I have the most recent nightly of clockwork

[twilit merlin]

acHOO

[fresh ocean]

gazoontite

[ashen onyx]

Is there any plan to add a linked component for a redstone resistor ? I am building a helicopter and i wanna be able to control the speed from inside the cockpit but the redstone resistor seems to only be controlled by the lever which i need to be next right on it so i can't somehow move it to control it from my controller or by a lever somewhere else

[elfin pewter]

Redstone links are analogue

[ashen onyx]

But they give a Redstone signal of 15

They are not adjustable like the liver

But as i said the liver needs to be ON the resistor

It can not be controlled remotely to say change the speed of my aircraft from the cockpit

[elfin pewter]

No as I said the link is analogue, they output the input they get,

Not always 15

[ashen onyx]

How can i control it ?

So if i add a link receiver power by a liver and it links to a sender it will copy the Redstone impute of put in or ?

[nocturne gate]

*analog

[elfin pewter]

shut your american ass up

[nocturne gate]

This is the internet, which is american

British "english" is just wrong

[elfin pewter]

its older, yours is wrong

[nocturne gate]

Our pronunciation is closer to the original

Yours is wrong

[elfin pewter]

funny think im not even british

[nocturne gate]

You spell stuff wrong

[elfin pewter]

its just that my keyboard of my phone is in British "english"

so it autocorected

[nocturne gate]

Probably irrelevant europoor

[elfin pewter]

shut

im dutch we are richer then you

[nocturne gate]

No freedom

No internet

No electricity

[elfin pewter]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN

[nocturne gate]

Just small villages

Practically feudalism

It's nice to visit Denmark every once in a while but I wouldn't want to stay 🇩🇪

[elfin pewter]

nu uh

[fervent meadow]

english comes from britain though lmfao

[nocturne gate]

That is european propgaanda

[nocturne gate]

No, it was invented by Thomas Jefferson

[fervent meadow]

💀

[nocturne gate]

Yeah, rip TJ 😔

[ashen onyx]

OHHHHH

I see

Thx a lot for the help

[elfin pewter]

no problem

[glad siren]

Polartt?

[dense scaffold]

indeed

[reef walrus]

so a few things (mostly just fixes to things that lightly bug me),

• When using propellers to lift contraptions they seem to "bounce" up to their maximum (depending on the rotation speed)

• Gyros do not gyro when spinning counter-clockwise

• propeller bearings can be rotated with the wrench even when assembled

• counter-clockwise spinning propellers behave strangely and seem to pull up the other side when inverted instead of pushing up the side its on

video showing the last one cuz its harder to explain than to show:

[nocturne gate]

Mf failed physics

[reef walrus]

?

[bleak kiln]

A) yes
B) counterclockwise gyro is the destabilization mode
C) don't wrench them
D) yes

[reef walrus]

gyro actually makes sense i fw that heavy

[sour cargo]

Destabilization mode?

[bleak kiln]

Opposite of stabilization

[sour cargo]

How's that even work?

[reef walrus]

destabilizes

[cold berry]

can you disable encased fans provide lift

[runic ivy]

it barely provides any lift

[cold berry]

I want to use them for normal create stuff on a ship but because its set to provide lift they do nothing els so I can't have a create super smelter on a base ship and have it work as is.

[runic ivy]

ah

no

it doesn't have modes

it's just broken

[cold berry]

well can it be fixed?

[bleak kiln]

not really

[cold berry]

can bearings be made to work on/part of a physics object so that you can make working jointed legs for walkers?

I want to do something like this https://youtu.be/oW5yTjMCQ2w?si=u8pZWJaUTKNX1Rfq without having other blocks forming the joints because of how needlessly unstable that makes things.

[bleak kiln]

yes?

but kwizzle hazzizle did stuff in the most practical way possible

[cold berry]

I can see that but I want something that has hard pints instead of asking the faces of blocks to hold things in place.

if I could just get normal bearing joints to work with booth sides having physics it would work and be smaller with less of a server load.

[cold berry]

found something VS takeoff has working bearings that do what I want but the rest of it is a tad too unstable to work with what I have in my test pack.

that and its still in 1.18 and I need 1.19.2

[tired spire]

Projector block

Illuminates only the area in front of it

But very far

And works on ships

Idk how you're gonna do that with minecraft's lighting system though...

Only thing I'm asking for is headlights

[nocturne gate]

Optifine shaders perhaps

[sudden cloak]

I can’t help but notice the majority of mechanisms made with blocks use ice or honey, which isn’t great for aesthetics or survival.
it might be good to have other blocks like iron, copper, or polished stone have low frictions.

[bleak kiln]

add oil block

[sudden cloak]

Slick Waxed Lightly Weathered Cut Copper Stairs

[tired spire]

Better

Butter block

[bleak kiln]

that could work with create, actually, mix plain milk enough to make butter

[tired spire]

Seems way less serious when you have diesel gens though because that has actual crude oil

And then you're lubing the wheels with butter...

[noble hollow]

I am personally not a fan of using food related items as fuel or in machines. In reality you would be using oil like the diesel generator mod does.

[sudden cloak]

Talking about lubricator machine parts and joking about doing it with butter, not fueling the engine ✌️

[noble hollow]

The thing is in prevoius versions, clockwork was actually using frosting as fuel for heavens sake. For that reason I am never sure whether this is a joke or not.

[sudden cloak]

Hah yeah that was weird

[ripe beacon]

i thought the frosting was to tie in with the baking theme, what with blazes eating blaze cakes to become superheated

and the stratodonut

like i guess its technically a combustible fuel but i just liked the idea of the engine having a little blaze in it

show yourself freak i see your reactions

[bleak kiln]

^ i agree

as a blanket, i think afterblazers should just be able to take the forge fuel tag

[tired spire]

Nah it was a joke
tis easier than making an entire system of extracting and refining oil though

And better than making clockwork have EVEN MORE dependancies

Like there's 3 already

And it's not like all people prefer one or another oil or engine mod, though ik Diesel Gens is the most popular one

[reef walrus]

ok guys why are we forgetting lava

[runic ivy]

lava is not combustible

[reef walrus]

lava is what is used in blaze cakes

[runic ivy]

yes, but it's not combustible

[reef walrus]

why does it need to be combustible

were using a blaze

[runic ivy]

idk

[reef walrus]

we could use eggs

[bleak kiln]

i mean fair, i think it should just be a blanket fix or a config option because however the devs do it, someone will whine

[reef walrus]

i mean lava makes the most sense create wise

[bleak kiln]

yes, but then diesel mfs will whine

[reef walrus]

if i were developing it (which tbf im not and honestly dont really care what the dev does cuz its their mod) i would just use anything the blaze burner can use

[bleak kiln]

i mean fair, yeah

[reef walrus]

i actually think the frosting was actually pretty cool

[bleak kiln]

i mean it wasss, the recipe was a little annoying if you didn't have a base in an ice biome though

[reef walrus]

maybe do what the electricy mod (i forgot the name) does and have an item allowing it to use forge:fuel

[bleak kiln]

i've been suggesting that since afterblazers were still in the game 💀

[reef walrus]

LOL

[reef walrus]

isnt lava also in the forge:fuel tag?

[bleak kiln]

i'm not entirely sure, actually-

[reef walrus]

i think kiwilib has a tag viewer

lemme check

nope

just #minecraft:lava

[ripe beacon]

lava would make sense

it could also jsut take both #forge:fuel and lava like the blaze burner after being given a straw from crafts & additions. but thats an entirely different addon

[noble hollow]

forge:fuel sounds like the logical thing to do, that way it will be compatible with all the oil mods without implimenting another new oil system

[reef walrus]

maybe use lava / blaze cakes and then make it compatible with the straw from craftd and additions for people who want to use forge:fuel

[noble hollow]

I feel like using both of those to power the same system would seem a bit odd

I think it should be either one or the other, or maybe two different blocks, one for each type of fuel, then adding a config that can switch each of them on or off.

[reef walrus]

it would make sense because theyre basicslly just different applications of the same thing (the blaze) and would also be good from a gameplay perspective because blaze cakes are made to be mass produced, it would also make using them more intuitive because the player would already know what to use

[daring elk]

please add a confirmation to creative gravtiron for disassamble and other destructive actions like (do you sure that you want disassamble ship idk-ship-slug?)

[tired spire]

If that ever becomes a feature it better be something adjustable in config

[proven epoch]

You guys should make boatmaking easier, without using Euraka.

[bleak kiln]

how so?

[dense wind]

All the weirdness of slightly sideways ships is probably vs, also the lack of airpockets for boats doesn’t help, so probably a vs thing that’d need to be changed to make boats easier

But rudder and paddle wheels would be cool

And propellor

So you don’t have to make underwater fans

[proven epoch]

Paddle wheels might be really cool, especially for boats like Paddlestreamers. But not all people lay on steampower or diesel. Windsails might be a cool adition too.

And tbh paddle wheels look like large water wheels.

[scarlet brook]

fill parts of it with cobwebs

works better than floaters

[bleak kiln]

you can build paddle wheels

[tired spire]

To be fair you can build propellers on phys bearings too

[bleak kiln]

yup

[tired spire]

I'd love to see paddle wheels implemented, even if we can build our own

[fickle river]

nuclear missiles

[tired spire]

Nah boring

Also try out Create: Diesel generstors

Ur gonna love it

[zinc condor]

try out alexs caves

[fickle river]

oooo

explosions

i love those

[tired spire]

me too

So
Can we have single use solid boosters?

[zinc condor]

ooh that would be nice, maybe giant fireworks?

[tired spire]

Yeah smh like that

[zinc condor]

what about a solid (item fuel), liquid (liquid fuel), and firework (one use) jet? could be fun...

like with create pipes and stuff

for the liquid one atleast

[tired spire]

Nah they said no jet or rocket engines

Doesn't fit the mod

[zinc condor]

awww :(

maybe for aeronautics?

[tired spire]

But solid boosters are not necessarily for spacecraft and jets, so that's why I suggested that

Like

GOTTA HAVE MISSILES

although if we get afterblazers back I guess we get missiles

[tired spire]

Mb

[zinc condor]

Mb?

[tired spire]

I was thinking around on a jet addon for like clockwork

But idk how to code

[zinc condor]

me niether...

[tired spire]

"Maybe", not "millibuckets"

[bleak kiln]

unless someone works out jetwork

it's on the cards

[tired spire]

Like
I thought of an entire system for modular jet engines but as said above
Can't code(

So yes, skill issue

[twilit merlin]

a

[tired spire]

Pneumatic engine
Stores compressed air like the backtank from Create, puts out some kinetic energy when powered with redstone until it runs out of air

Use case: missiles and stuff

Now that I think about it that sounds way more fitting in just a separate create add-on to jumpstart diesel engines or something

[noble hollow]

what about adding rockets

they would providde massive thrust but cannot be deactivated once enabled

they would keep burning at a fixed rate until they run out of fuel

Also I think there needs to be a way to pump fuel/RPM from one ship to another

or from the world to a ship

[spice atlas]

Afterblazer is coming back in melting point

[polar kite]

lets go

[tired spire]

Can we have an achievement for picking up a 256 000 kg ship with the survival gravitron? For when the mod is closer to being finished ofc

[tawdry wedge]

What is better for fuels?

• Create: Diesel Generators
• Create: The Factory must grow
• Create: Destroy

TFMG was buggy for me,

Destroy is in very early stages and focuses more on chemistry.

And i haven't tried Diesel Generators

I hope those 3 mods will have nice compatibility with each other in the future. for now i feel like you need to pick one for gasoline

[tawdry wedge]

[SUGGESTION]: Compass block - outputs redstone signal based on the direction

The block would have one side marked as front of the ship, and on top it would have texture with N S W E symbols. The 4 sides of the block will output redstone signal based of the direction.

for exapmle: if ship rotates and front of the compass block faces north. The N side will output redstone signal and other sides are not. This could even be an analog signal, so if the ship is facing NE both N and E outputs signals with strength 7 instead. If ship rotates more to E it will give signals E: pwr 8, N pwr 6.

I hope you all get the point

[tawdry wedge]

Or simple version with just a front and configurable direction. So you configure the block to East, and the output power will be based on how close to this direction it's facing. This will require to use 4 blocks to get full " direction info"

The third approach would be a block with a marked front as always. And just one redstone analog output, and the signal strength will get weaker clockwise from north

This is example: the red circle shows signal strength at directions. And in the middle is example block facing sw giving output of 5

[polar kite]

tfmg if you aren't using 1.18.2, then you should be fine

then I'd say diesel generators, but I was having problems with that powering my tracks through my transmission

[tired spire]

I haven't tried either Destroy or TFMG
Only used Diesel Generators

But Diesel Generators is my choice because, well,
1.18.2 is the only version trackwork exists on

[tired spire]

Is this for autopilot or smh?

[tawdry wedge]

Yeah, exactly what i was thinking. Or at least correcting direction of movement. Ship with gyro can't really rotate. And without gyro can get "funky" with rotation

Actually i must try if computer craft gps works on movinf contraptions

Or a block that outputs signal depending on move direction. +x, -x, +z etc.

Would be powerfull with block that measures speed of cotraption

[tired spire]

idk really, but there is an add-on called CC:VS, which I believe does make autopilots possible

[tawdry wedge]

hm.. i think i even downloaded it, didn't read documentation yet tho

[tall pollen]

Fix physics bearings locked mode, half the time it behaves as intended and half the time it doesn’t

[lavish solar]

Compat between Basins on Physic objects. I really want my flying factory

[peak perch]

Compatibility between tiny redstone and phys blocks

It already works somewhat

But stuff like uh

Switches and buttons

On the circuit boards

Doesn’t really work

[small fog]

Fix Linked Transmitters + analog levers from Create Connected on ships, whenever I shift right click on it it doesnt go back down, but instead locks/unlocks the transmitter signal, but it doesnt happen when not on a ship for some reason.

[serene vale]

If CWK is going to be pivoting away from 1.18.2, then I'd like to request one final, stable build of CWK for that version, so we aren't left with bugs forever unfixed.

[tired spire]

Especially considering trackwork does not look like it's updating soon

[serene vale]

Even if it did follow
I'd still like to see a version of CWK I can run on my server safely.

[tired spire]

Yeah I'm not saying it's the only reason

[dapper mural]

its definetly been suggested, but flaps need inbuilt redstone links

[tired spire]

Is this like an Ad Astra add-on

[plush chasm]

is this a vs addon?

[tired spire]

Pretty sure it's not

[serene vale]

Are there any actual ships you can make
Or is that tiny recolorable thing the whole extent of what you can fly in that space place

Valkyrien Skies has had its 6 axis movement for ages.

Honestly I'd suggest looking into the mod itself rather than some mysterious collab with CWK, as I'm sure the actual VS2 devs would be more interested in helping you integrate the space stuff with VS than the devs of the Create compatibility layer known as Clockwork.

I am out of discord slots sorry, you repeating "join my disc" one more time won't create a 201'st slot, sadly.

[turbid summit]

i mean once potato work on his horizon mod again you could try to strike a deal with him

but i am pretty sure VS wil implement it's own space system

called Universal

it;s still in idea board yet i dont see muchprogress around them

[runic ivy]

no dev still reads this chat

dm potato or ewoudje or whatever

[brisk island]

kinda goofy for a 3 day deadline

you can add compat if u want to @cedar drum im not sure what we are supposed to do?
you have a cool mod and you can add compat and if u got any question on how to do so you can ask

for helping you?

ig il join

and also i mean if somebody here has time and motivation to do this its possible

atm i have exams, ruby is working on vscore restructure

idk if potato wants too

maybe @wind river ?

[bleak kiln]

i think potato is taking a month long nap

[bleak kiln]

also does ruby have a buy me a coffee

[brisk island]

do'nt think so

[bleak kiln]

damn, okay

[brisk island]

so what do you expect in content with vs2? i expect custom spaceships and then blocks that do this?

i mean this week my exams end so i could take a look at it next week

is it opensource?

yhea license it

so how does it work internally? i expect the space is a seperate dimension?

yhea i mean i can't promise that i will absolutly do it and finish it fully but im up for it

kk

idk really how liftoff looks soo

[brisk island]

yes i will help when i have the time

[tired spire]

yay

[pale mica]

just been testing things out

mrcrayfish's gun mod doesnt seem to work with it

you can shoot through the walls of things

e.g tanks

if theres a way to make an intergration mod that would be great

[scarlet brook]

There's a mod for that on 1.18

[bleak kiln]

Download bullet fix on curseforge

[pale mica]

of course its 1.18

i need to find a way to port it to 1.19

[runic ivy]

it's like 2 lines of actual code without all of the boilerplate

[pale mica]

unfortunatly i am useless at coding

[scarlet brook]

If it's that little then imma just try to kitbash it into 1.20

[pale mica]

and 1.19.2

🙏

[mighty tiger]

a way to make a small plain that can fly on its own

[bleak kiln]

you already can

[subtle marten]

Did someone say, small plane????

Warning (needs to configure flap bearing settings and change its stress value 4.0 to 0.0)

[bleak kiln]

please

download obs

[scarlet brook]

Bro

AT THE VERY LEAST just Win-Alt-R

[twilit merlin]

very niase

[mighty tiger]

i mean automatically like 2 stasons or something kinda a drone

[mighty tiger]

omg its so cute i love it whats its name

[bleak kiln]

use cc-vs and computercraft

[mighty tiger]

whats cc-vs

[bleak kiln]

computercraft-vs2 integration

[mighty tiger]

ooooh ok

never herd of it let me do some checking online so i can learn about it thx

[plush chasm]

MY RESOURCE PACK JUMPSCARE

[subtle marten]

Pls make more of these

Or tell me what program do u use

[tired spire]

pretty sure it was Blockbench

[subtle marten]

Nïčę

Now the reality can be what i order

[past barn]

Add the Alpha to Curseforge so we can also run with World Edit

[clear kelp]

manually download it

it's not rocket science

[past barn]

not all members are that smart though

it's not just world edit, i can't make a mod pack for CF that includes Clockwork becuse the file on CF is broken and crashes games.. i can on modrinth but it doesn't have all mods we want

[bold thicket]

Use prism launcher, download mods from both sources, export mrpack, upload to modrinrh

[past barn]

Oh never heard of it, cool I’ll give that a shot

[warm folio]

Bring back rocket boosters

[bleak kiln]

bruh

[bleak kiln]

there were never rocket boosters

[warm folio]

Then what were those booster things in it

[bleak kiln]

not rockets, and already planned to return in a different, nerfed form

[warm folio]

Okay

So encased fans work as boosters too?

[bleak kiln]

really weak, but yes

[warm folio]

But do I use them or make big fan thingies

Cause the sail things are bigger and maybe are better but they’re big

And encased fans are really weak?

?

[subtle marten]

Yes they are

3x3 fan buildup is like half the power of a cross shaped 3 block diamenter sail

[warm folio]

But what super boosters are there

[subtle marten]

The tournament mod adds some

But they are too powerful and only needs redstone (broken)

[warm folio]

What does it add?

[tired spire]

💀

[subtle marten]

Thrusters

[warm folio]

What’s the mod called

[subtle marten]

Tournament

[warm folio]

1.20.1?

[subtle marten]

I think yes

It also adds other useful things except the "connector" block, dont use them they crash your world

[warm folio]

What’s it do

Well supposed to do

And why quotation

[subtle marten]

If two connectors near to each other, they link like a rope and they can disconect with a redstone signal

But for some reason if you use it a few times it crash the game and dont let you in to the world

[warm folio]

Oh

Why can’t the dev fix it

[subtle marten]

Idk

[warm folio]

Wait, is tournament a create based mod

[tired spire]

No

[warm folio]

Oh

And no blaze afterburner?

Adterblaze

[tired spire]

Afterblazers are not going to be called that in the next Clockwork update

They're going to be called exhausts

[warm folio]

Oh

Aw