Cogfight

[fickle saffron]

Im sure its fine

[ivory bay]

In the worst scenario it is a Chinese Religious Symbol. I swear, I made it in the right direction to not be confused

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1107429721148493905 love it... I'm doomed!

[dry tide]

is mini ship considered "survival achievable"

[ivory bay]

If it doesn't use creative only or indestructible blocks then yes

[scarlet shard]

aight, so I was gonna use this in cogfight with some added weapons cars, but decided that it would be too laggy on the server, but I still want to share it nonethelesshttps://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1107415297113214987

[sly mica]

Is an event happening today

[finite nexus]

It doesn't seem like it but vroomtato said if they're back in vc it will be because impromptu cogfight

[granite marlin]

Does anyone know who did it? or why?

[gray sonnet]

I know why

[granite marlin]

Why

[dire grove]

I assume all of the other cogfight events are cancelled :(

[sly mica]

rahhhh

[gray sonnet]

Nah

[dire grove]

free for all today?!

[gray sonnet]

Tournament style

[ruby torrent]

🤓 source?

[fickle saffron]

bcuz its sunday

[ruby torrent]

then what time

[fickle saffron]

never, but today was going to be the blu v red

[ruby torrent]

yeah i knew that part

[worthy prairie]

bro its buddhist not chinese 💀

[ruby torrent]

nah he finna say "what's the difference" 💀 💀

[worthy prairie]

nah man

i wont let him ( WHY IS THERE STILL 1 MINUTE COOLDOWN, OUT RAGEOUS)

[agile jasper]

Yeah what’s up with this cooldown???? Why???

Someone must’ve really pissed off potato 🤷‍♂️

[ruby silo]

they seemed pretty pissed from the failure of the event, so i dont really blame them

[ruby torrent]

y'all gotta stop psychoanalyzing the mf 💀 calm down and let him do what he wants instead of making guesses on what's happening and making bootleg cogfights n shit

[ruby silo]

im literally commenting on already existing info, it's not really a stretch to say that the event pissed them off, mostly considering their reaction in #clockwork-🕛

[lavish meteor]

Them*

[tulip lava]

we aren't pissed. Just disappointed

[ruby silo]

fair

[fickle saffron]

oh god

[worldly cypress]

i honestly dont think it was avoidable
it was inevitable that there were gonna be bad actors
but we just didnt see it coming

[tulip lava]

I think the next one will have 3 people oped

and be a bit more liberal with banning people

[worthy prairie]

what does oped mean

[tulip lava]

people that have op on the server

[grand sedge]

Any1 wanna duel me on my server?

Petition to add "Connectivity" mod to the server (only server sided mod) so ppl don't get kicked out of the event just for a little lag spike in their connection

[dry tide]

finally someone is helping potato

[finite nexus]

I volunteer to op if needed, provided i can still participate in the fight itself

[dry tide]

im pretty sure random meant himself and null will be helping potato

[finite nexus]

sure but im just volunteering if they do end up needing more people

[lavish meteor]

Am also volunteering to help w setup

[grand sedge]

are phys bearings allowed?

[ruby silo]

i'd assume so, though in moderation probably

[lavish meteor]

I’d imagine they’ll either introduce a limit for the amount of total physics bodies a person can have in general or some kind of points system of ship volume and amount of physics bodies per ship

Though the first one seems better cause simplicity, though a volume limit wouldn’t hurt

[granite marlin]

It means operator, it allows you to use powerful commands, if you are in singleplayer you are automatically an operator but in a server you have to do it manually by typing "op (username)" in the server console

[dire grove]

advances in cogfight technology

[ivory bay]

My bad...

[lavish meteor]

• For example, a non-opped person couldn’t use /kick, /ban, or even /tp or /broadcast

Operators can also make promote others to and demore others from being an operator

[tulip lava]

I was asking but he missed me in the message flood

[hasty kestrel]

Maybe it would be better to organize the next cogfight when glue, contraptions and inventories get saved in schematics and during ship conversions. So the operators can paste in every ship and noone had to be in creative

[tulip lava]

shit.

I fuck up 🤦‍♂️

[tulip lava]

it's two extra letters dumbass. it ain't that hard. he ---> they shouldn't be that difficult but no, you gotta mess up every fucking time. SMH

[past owl]

gotta give schem files to admins & making sure that when players have both glue in inventory it gets deleted

Eureka ship helm for building ships is the best method also so no bluper needed & just only needing super glue for contraptions which admins can do for the people

[cobalt cliff]

why don't yall just have whitelist and make the blubercommand restricted

We already knew that grifers would appear in the event so just make the command restricted and while building make explosions not work.

You can use FTB for example

[grand sedge]

FTB ranks right?

[past owl]

i suggest Luck perms

[cobalt cliff]

Just make the server Un Griefable

[grand sedge]

can we use creative motor JUST for kick starting the engine cuz hand cranking takes ages

[past owl]

not that simple m8

[cobalt cliff]

Ive been hosting a server myself, Its not that hard or that simpel.

1. Restrict commands,
2. Anti-Cheat
3. disable damage and use claims as a exampel,
4. use world guard,
   5, have whitelist.
5. ban griefers or exploiters

It is that simpel

[earnest hound]

its as shrimple as that

[past owl]

1. Restrict commands,
   Obv but i prefer Ship Helm(less laggy & better imo) or command block to spawn in a big box(deletes the old box & replace it with a new one if the player press the button again) for building ships & anything bigger then the box ask an admin
2. Anti-Cheat
   Bit hard to find one that will support clockwork
3. disable damage and use claims as a exampel,
   the message that is below this message
4. use world guard,
   I suggest flan as its fabric & wg doesnt have a mod form of it
   5, have whitelist.
   This wont stop griefers & exploiters
   although i suggest needing to give schem to mods/admins so they can be whitelisted & have them paste them in for the player also
   on top of that before event the mods/admins can check if the ship is valid or not
5. ban griefers or exploiters
   best option just need admins/moderators checking up on everyone

[cobalt cliff]

YEs

[dusty lotus]

1. bluper without commands is pain
2. if you find a free actually functional anti cheat that works with modded and especially with extreme modded, I’d recommend slowing down on the meth
3. last time I checked, claims don’t work with assembled vs ships
4. read number 3
5. duh
6. duh

[cobalt cliff]

are you stupit?

[past owl]

rather try to find a claim mod that locates the player cords & make them not be able to break anything should be simple enough

which would 100% work with clockwork

[cobalt cliff]

We wont delete the blooper command, and claims will work on assembeld ships, and anti cheat, we just need to kick flyers and kill auras. NExt time think twice and also this is only suggestions.

[past owl]

they are kinda right to an extent

[dusty lotus]

claims will work on assembled ships
source?

[cobalt cliff]

we don't need advanced stuff we need moderations and simple anti cheat, with whitelist, and use block permission on blovks that we arent supposed to delete or build on idk why "Clyde" is pointing out stuff with a bad atitude when we are trying to come up with solutions

[cobalt cliff]

assembeld ships are in the world, Outside the border

[dusty lotus]

you’re not coming up with solutions, you’re just claiming a hard situation is simple to fix

[cobalt cliff]

it is

the only problem with the last time was the bluper command, and people using commands to grief. Did you know that you can set perms on example worldedit, And use permission mods to enable commands for certain ranks. The fix is simple. You're just starting a argument that you can't win.

Can we get a moderator in here so this doesen't go over our control?

[lofty spire]

dookie

[fickle saffron]

This seems like its only gonna become an issue because you are making it one 💀 bro just get some self control instead 💀

[runic stratus]

to aid with moderation at least in the first instance perhaps only let team leaders get on to place ship and infuse physics. Dont let them take off just get the engine turning if they desire also put all the bases next to eachother so we arent loading as much of the server yes this removes the surprise but it might be a good tradeoff. Once the game begins let everyone take off and give like 2 mins of grace so people can get their ships away from spawn. ofc with lots less people none of this may be necessary

[past owl]

i think spaced out is bit better it really depends on who haves what ship & server gonna need to have the whole area loaded as to avoid weird ship lag & shipyard issues & sometimes big ships gonna freeze in air when it gets unloaded also kinda gets annoying trying to load it as my ship i was planning on bringing in cogfight is somethin like 300x50x150 blocks & i needed like around 20 chunks of simulation distances to make it work properly & not break

[plucky flare]

What the hell did I just read 🤨

Y’all are suggesting chunk claims and such

Cogfight is a combat server

There are no claims

Just don’t fuckin grief

🤡

[fickle saffron]

They forgor clearly (please remove the cooldown, its annoying as shit)

[plucky flare]

The whole point of cogfight is that

It’s for pvp

Claims restrict breaking things

Someone could just claim their airship

Cause tech made compat

And then it’s a “fuck you im invincible”

[past owl]

ye

[plucky flare]

I’m sorry the what

[fickle saffron]

Please remove cooldown, k thx

[plucky flare]

The bluper command wasn’t accessible to normal players

The issue was people spamming actual bluperglue

Mostly at spawn

Where all the extra clowns were

[fickle saffron]

Im just gonna keep wasting my 1 message per min to say please remove slowmode we dont need it anymore plz dont pull an aero moderation, spam ended days ago

[plucky flare]

It’s not on

Goob

[fickle saffron]

Yes it is

[past owl]

Eureka Ship Helm (prefer)

1. less laggy
2. Simple
   or
   command block to spawn in a big box
   (deletes the old box & replace it with a new one if the player press the button again)
   & anything bigger then the box ask an admin

[fickle saffron]

Its 5 seconds now, instead of a min

[plucky flare]

Yes that is intentional

[fickle saffron]

It was a min two seconds ago

[plucky flare]

The last time this channel was unrestricted there was a shitshow

[past owl]

oof

[fickle saffron]

Also the shitshow was in direct correlation to cogfight actually happening

[plucky flare]

Ship helm for assembly is laggy

Ironically the bluper assembly would be less laggy if bluper itself wasn’t so bad

Though it’s not bluper that’s at fault here

It’s superglue

Identical code

[ivory bay]

Can't be changed the max value of blocks bluper glue can glue?

[fickle saffron]

Thats not the issue

Even just one massive box is laggy as shit, super glue has zero optimization

[plucky flare]

Superglue hinges on you only ever using it for small ish things

Bluperglue is not as fortunate

[past owl]

testing bluper & helm
Bluper: i had massive client side lag trying to build my ship
Helm: i place it down & assembled ( no client side lag but bit server lag that wasnt long)

the ship i tested with

[ivory bay]

Oh wow that's impressive

[plucky flare]

That’s the thing

If bluper client lag wasn’t so bad it’d be objectively superior because it doesn’t lag the server on assembly

It uses vs2’s assemble function directly instead of having to floodfill for blocks

[past owl]

issue is that it may have a chance to crash the player
& the server lag was at the most 1-2mins which isnt bad imo

i have built my ship more then 10 somethin times & havent crashed

[runic stratus]

btw i wasnt talking about claims just the little spawn islands we had

[minor kelp]

an official clockwork event that was hosted 12-14 may
that did also not went well

[gray sonnet]

Bro why do we still have slow mode

[fickle saffron]

Its only 5 seconds now

[scarlet shard]

Oh, that's much better

[grand sedge]

ffs fabric is soo trash my game keeps crashing every other minute, I have not crashed even a single time on forge

[scarlet shard]

Huh, you're using the modpack?

[grand sedge]

yea

[vocal gyro]

fabric

moment

[grand sedge]

If I search quickly in REI the game crashes, if I shoot with autocannons constantly my game crashes

never happened with forge, plus i get better performance there as well

[plucky flare]

That’s not a fabric issue that’s an REI skill issue

REI sucks

[grand sedge]

ill just switch it with JEI

[plucky flare]

Can’t even type in creative menu without saving 700 different blocks to my favorites i stg

Try to type “creative motor” in the creative menu with REI installed

Good luck

[fickle saffron]

I only added it because some clown said it was better on fabric 😔

[plucky flare]

It’s not

💀

[fickle saffron]

We had jei originally

[grand sedge]

its a myth

anyways whats with the cannons for me

in the crash report it says smthn like "pointer blah blah " can't remember it rn

[bright bear]

Another 💀 moment of cogfail was the fact that so many people were making/made individual planes in the team fight.

[plucky flare]

Null pointer?

Send error log

[plucky flare]

That’s not even the main issue

But

[grand sedge]

on it

[plucky flare]

It was annoying

To be honest even if setup had gone smoothly

I’m not convinced vs2 is ready for 50 people to use massive airships at once yet

That seems like it needs lod’s performance improvements first

[fickle saffron]

Do it bracket style like everyone keeps saying

[plucky flare]

Well here’s the thing

[bright bear]

Bracket takes time

[plucky flare]

It was one thing when it was teams and 50 people because then it’s not 50 massive airships

But the moment you get solos that have massive airships

That’s an issue

[fickle saffron]

But 50 people is 100 ships

2 per person

[plucky flare]

Not at once

And not all gigantic

[fickle saffron]

True

[plucky flare]

Though to be honest

The size of the airship was not the problem

It’s the size of the bluperglue used to assemble it

[bright bear]

We were all kinda assuming at once in our team

[grand sedge]

complexity?

[plucky flare]

I really need to fix bluperglue 💀

[scarlet shard]

Could have something like 2 per team maybe?

[plucky flare]

Not really either

Vs2 handles large things good

The issue was mostly on clockwork’s end and then supplemented by a lack of ✨ lod performance

[bright bear]

4v4v4v4 brackets, and have one admin per team?

[plucky flare]

4 teams, me and one other person referee

That’s all

I get a permission mod to let people use /vs_clockwork bluper

[grand sedge]

as crazy this may sound but does it make sense to have practice server for cw (like minemenclub, PvP Legacy etc)

[bright bear]

Blupers the platform and turns it into an airship

[grand sedge]

where u can queue or duel some1 in a special lobby

[ruby silo]

Bluper every ship into one horrid abomination of metal and gears

[bright bear]

Use essential and invite someone to duel or something

[grand sedge]

idk the mod too indev for that to be reliable but if some1 manages to pull it off in the future its gonna be big moni for them

[bright bear]

You don’t need potato to do that for you

[grand sedge]

im talking about a public server

yea it has nothing to do with potato

[plucky flare]

Don’t use essential

[grand sedge]

its just a dumb idea im giving

[plucky flare]

Please stop recommending people to use essential

[bright bear]

<- me

[plucky flare]

I know it’s useful but it’s what causes the hitbox flicker to be 9x as bad as normal

[grand sedge]

same i don't use essential, got a server :P
plus it just uses ur PC's resources to host the world meaning lag if the PC is not gud enough

same goes for the internet connection

[scarlet shard]

Oh, so that's what causes that bug where I can just walk through a ship

[plucky flare]

Yes

It’s essential

[ruby torrent]

then have a good pc

[plucky flare]

I don’t know why it’s in cogfight

Null is to blame probably

[grand sedge]

[scarlet shard]

Null said he was gonna remove it before the event

[fickle saffron]

I said you should remove it before the event

[grand sedge]

is my pc just too bad that it cant handle the world

[scarlet shard]

Ahhh, I see

[fickle saffron]

.

[plucky flare]

NO

NONONO

NOT AGAIN

Send log

[fickle saffron]

FUNNI BUG HAHAHAHAHAH

[plucky flare]

WE KILLED YOUUUU

WHY ARE YOU BAAACK

[grand sedge]

LMAOO

[plucky flare]

CONCURRENT MODIFICATION YOU SWINE

Send log

[grand sedge]

sending the details of that monster sir

[plucky flare]

We can never escape the comod

[lavish meteor]

Advice from someone who used to not be great at pronouns

Keep a tally on a sticky note of the amount of times you mess up, and put it in a place you can see well and frequently, and update it first thing whenever you mess up

I put a sticky note like that on my computer tower, and it took 13 tallies until I started having a near-perfect streak

It requires effort on both yourself consciously and yourself subconsciously to get rid of the subconscious rules and gender expectations ingrained in you since nearly t0 of your life

Make sure to apologize and call yourself out (good job on that) every time as well

Don’t slip up with the post-mess-up actions; do them every time shortly after messing up

[plucky flare]

Counterpoint

[bright bear]

they, use they

[plucky flare]

I misgender myself daily

Skill issue

[lavish meteor]

Mfw /neu

[plucky flare]

I’ve mastered the art of stupid

Can’t even get my own right

[lavish meteor]

Hmmmmm

I aim to usurp your title as master of stupid

[plucky flare]

You cannot

[lavish meteor]

I am in death grasp range of failing math

[plucky flare]

I am failing math

[grand sedge]

(not sure if its the correct crash report, but it is the latest I could find)

[lavish meteor]

Becausw I didn’t pay attention in class nor did I do homework and I am not smart or focused enough anymore to just figure it out on the rest

[plucky flare]

[lavish meteor]

I mean failing the year

[plucky flare]

Actually this doesn’t seem to be a vs2 issue

[grand sedge]

oh nice

[plucky flare]

It seems to be a cbc issue

That’s a relief

We DID kill comod

It just went somewhere else

[grand sedge]

lmao

btw is starlight compatable with vs2?

[plucky flare]

Uhh

Should be

It wasn’t in 1.16 iirc but it should be now

[grand sedge]

hm ill try

[ruby silo]

I feel like I cannot legally be considered properly dull, though I feel like I probably should

[lavish meteor]

G

[bright bear]

you called?

[worthy prairie]

@plucky flare just a suggestion, i personally have never tried but it could be a solution

pasting a schematic inside of the physics contraption instead of bluper gluing the schematic and then assembling

[finite nexus]

Not a thing that can happen rn but i heard it was planned

[worthy prairie]

.

[shy grove]

When saving a schematic if you haven't assembled it before making the schematic the schematic saves the bluper glue

[worthy prairie]

still causes the lag tho

but probably less

what we could do is just have a large bluper glue zone and assemble the ships one by one

[gray sonnet]

Bluper glue lags ALOT

[heady gust]

We found out at the event

[cobalt cliff]

Sorry i miss understanded, If that is the case we need more moderations, and i have seen a way to be unable to use certain blocks for exampel like hypixel'

[dusty lotus]

you’re suggesting banning bluper glue?

[runic stratus]

maybe before the event admins can spawn in planes and make them physics then let on the teams to check their craft and make final adjustments

[dusty lotus]

teams have to fill their crafts with items/fuel/etc.

so they need creative anyway

[runic stratus]

or admins supply in chests lots of buckets o frosting

items should already be on craft or team leaders can be in creative

[dusty lotus]

what about ammo/blocks/turtles and whatever else the team needs

[runic stratus]

or they can all be in creative im not saying they shouldnt im jsut saying that their ships be there before they log on

[dusty lotus]

everyone has unique strats and what not so admins filling chests would quickly become a pain

[minor kelp]

idea: each team sets up each plane, one by one under admin supervision
this has a big flaw of absolutely time taking

[hasty kestrel]

idea: use a plugin/mod that allows regions to be made that only allow specific teams to make changes to that plot.

[grand sedge]

are sheetmetals (besides nethersteel) allowed?

pls potato add weights to them i h8 building with casings and wood :P

[hasty kestrel]

They are

Allowed

[grand sedge]

:D

[gray scarab]

what if we just destroyed the glue after assembling

[ivory bay]

Sup, any news?

[worthy prairie]

one big zone is better than 300 bajillion medium sized one

[fickle saffron]

No its not

[gray sonnet]

You are supposed to yeah

[fickle saffron]

I tried to assemble a massive ship using the bluper command in a private world, trust me, its not less laggy

[shy grove]

I mean that is possible, the glue can be deleted once an assembled physics thing leaves it fully

[gray sonnet]

You have to kill all bluper glue entities after

Or else it lags ALOT

[ruby silo]

Is there a command for killing bluper?

I feel like it would make sense to have

[gray sonnet]

./kill @e[type=vs_clockwork_bluper_glue]

Think its right

[fickle saffron]

Something like that ye

Bluper is just relabled super glue which is why its laggy and shitty and unoptimized for large sizes, which is why potato is gonna just remake it at some point soon ™️

[shy grove]

I mean, using the minimap mod in the cogfight thing you can display the name tags of things and the blueper glue entities appear on it, made it easy to see where I needed to break em in single player

[ruby silo]

Ah, yeah, it’s really annoying to try to manually break all of the bluper after a ship is built, especially because for some reason I need to move the ship to break it regardless of the proximity to the bluper

[fickle saffron]

Hit box

[gray sonnet]

I don't think it needs to be an entity but rendering would be a pain

[ruby silo]

I said regardless of proximity, the fucking bluper could be 100 blocks up and it still won’t break unless I slightly move the ship

[gray sonnet]

Use the command

I think the bluperglue is named different tho

[fickle saffron]

It probably should not be an entity because its laggy

[gray sonnet]

Ye

[worthy prairie]

your gonna have the big zone anyways????

[worthy prairie]

./kill @e[type=vs_clockwork:bluper_glue]

[gray sonnet]

Yeah i think that is correct name

[fickle saffron]

Im just gonna use neither because both are laggy as shit

[hasty kestrel]

schematics on existing ships would fix this mess. Then we wouldn't even need to use bluper

[gray sonnet]

You cant save entities lol

[shy grove]

Bluperglue is saved in a schematic though

It isn't after the ship is assembled though

[hasty kestrel]

so?

if you paste a ship onto an existing ship (first that needs to be possible) you wouldn't need to use bluper at all

that's exactly what I said

[lofty spire]

but what if

you cant do that

[hasty kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/847670481653334032.gif?size=48

[shy grove]

Ah okay, I misunderstood

[gray scarab]

build your designs in creative

then use the bluper command to make it 1 large box

it gets saved in a schematic

[worthy prairie]

yeah but thats only if its not assembled etc

[plucky flare]

You see

If it was that easy

It’d already be fixed

But I cannot for the life of me find where create decides where to place the schematic

[gray scarab]

gotta love when schematicing your ship and the outline stretches into the shipyard when you place the first point

[gray scarab]

i dunno man

sounds complicated from a code perspective

[gray sonnet]

Same lag bluper still there

[finite nexus]

no b/c you dont need to bluper the ship

just gotta paste it onto an already physics'd object

but since create has done a bit of trolling

potato cant find where the schematics are stored

in like the code or smthing idk

[heady gust]

[runic stratus]

well maybe you do a build battle you give teams an hour to build they start with a bedrock block already with physics then they build off of it. bedrock removed airships can fly away and fight

[dire grove]

you could always just assemble with a eureka driving wheel thing

[hasty kestrel]

I knowww 😬

Good luck anyway lol

[fickle saffron]

Bedrock is a terrible idea

You do realize what bedrock by itself with no other blocks does right?

[lofty spire]

nothing at all!

yep

[fickle saffron]

It glitches reality out

[lofty spire]

nope

i think you're lying

[fickle saffron]

Bro is trolling me 💀

[lofty spire]

you should definitely use bedrock

[chilly wedge]

im probally not supposed to send this here but here is some self promotion: https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1108389249906122833

[ivory bay]

So... about Cogfight

are there any news?

[gray sonnet]

Not yet

[chilly wedge]

nope. but im hosting a event

[gray sonnet]

If you need something to do join havoc smp

[lavish latch]

any footage of one of the cogfight events yet ?

[ruby torrent]

no

and there won't be

[round brook]

Jesus Christ my latest.log in the Cogfight modpack is 7.38 GB

[gray sonnet]

I have it

It was a dumpster fire tho

It was cancelled before fighting began

[dry tide]

this event failed
here an event i hope wont fail
https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1108389249906122833

[lavish latch]

Ah no point the.

[chilly wedge]

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1108389249906122833 > https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1108610849792331824

[oak obsidian]

im new here

whats cogfight

me too

what mods are you using

[bright bear]

Cogfight is a failed team pvp event that was shut down due to greifing

[tulip lava]

damn that hurts more than I thought it would

[bright bear]

Had a great time setting up for it though

[tulip lava]

🥹

[gray sonnet]

@tulip lava attempt again?

[tulip lava]

later

[minor kelp]

was fun setting up a lot of stuff and decorating my plane

[gray sonnet]

Had such great potential

Until someone ruined it for everyone

[minor kelp]

yea…
i was looking forward to dogfighting and pulling insane manuvers dodging gunfire
not this

[heady gust]

Ong

Little kid with bluperglue probably @lone spindle

Saw him spam it

Also griefs smps 💀

[lone spindle]

hell nah not the misinformation

I don’t even know what server this is

[heady gust]

Quit playing

This one

Which you should definitely join

https://discord.gg/r7rjvwd7

We can make a memorial for you if you want

Albiet not a very good one considering your economic status

[lone spindle]

no you’re out here lying

“I saw him spam it” I’ve never even been on this server

also it’s “they” get it right

[heady gust]

I didnt ask

[lone spindle]

no way this man calls me a child and then pulls this shit

[heady gust]

Not much point in lying ngl

I have a few more screenshots i could share

[lone spindle]

if you’re talking about coads? yeah, I fucking did that

cogfight, though? literally never heard of it

[heady gust]

Thats cap, i saw you drink invis and grief ships aswell

[lone spindle]

who runs this event

[heady gust]

Btw you broke rule A,D,E and j

If youd like to applogize for a start

[lone spindle]

Unban me and undo the rollback, and I’ll consider it

[heady gust]

Nope

Things you do have consequences believe it or not

[lone spindle]

I don’t know why you’re asking me for things if I’m not getting anything in return

[heady gust]

A apology has no value to you

Or very minimal

Infact it benifits you by improving relations

However its fine if you don’t apologize, im sure your parents let you do whatever you want

[lone spindle]

what relations

what do I gain from being of higher regard to you

[heady gust]

Perhaps telling you who runs cogfight sooner

Or raising your social status

Which is pretty low atm

[lone spindle]

To you, maybe

[heady gust]

Wdym to me

I dont have to apologize for anything

[lone spindle]

You sure?

[pliant wigeon]

Skeller

Do not advertise our server in #1101571779870339142 lol

[ruby silo]

I don’t think people realizing that refusing to apologize makes them look like actual children to everyone else 💀

[pliant wigeon]

I'm in the same server with them ☠️

[lone spindle]

I literally so could not care less

he’s out here accusing me of things I have not done

[ruby silo]

You admitted to something, so he wasn’t entirely accusing you of things you haven’t done

[lone spindle]

He’s claiming I griefed cogfight, which I didn’t

On his server, yeah, I fucking did it, and I was right to

but don’t claim I did things I haven’t

[ruby silo]

I would have no proof to claim you’ve griefed cogfight, though the mods would probably have proof if they cared much about drama

[lone spindle]

Whoever runs the event is welcome to check logs and see that I never so much as logged on

[ruby silo]

You could bring this up to them with your Minecraft username if that helps

[lone spindle]

I killed people in Minecraft in a server where killing people in Minecraft is allowed

I’m not an asshole

as much as the members of that server might disagree

[ruby silo]

Did they have any previous bias?

[lone spindle]

Previous bias in the respect that it was the owner’s group that I betrayed? Yeah

[ruby silo]

Was it you who fucked them over first or did you do it in revenge of something, because if you attacked first then people aren’t going to just accept that and not treat you as an asshole

[lone spindle]

If I had raided the other main group on the server I guarantee nobody would have batted an eye

[lone spindle]

I was working with a rival to their faction who had to my understanding recently been raided by them

[ruby silo]

Ah, I can see your point, hypocrisy of the owners?

[lone spindle]

so the way they banned me was by claiming that the stuff I stole belonged to one member of the faction in particular, a so called “resource manager”, and since they weren’t online I wasn’t allowed to take it

Which is bullshit, because nobody ever told me that, or that you could even do that

[ruby silo]

Ok, so the resource manager lost resources… just find more resources to manage

[lone spindle]

as well as claiming that there weren’t enough members of the faction online (2 required) when I counted 3, including myself

[lone spindle]

The rules on that server state you can only steal from people or groups that are online and active

[ruby silo]

Even if that’s the case then the resource manager could theoretically not own most of those resources

[lone spindle]

exactly

[ruby silo]

Very few in fact, unless they’re personal items

[lone spindle]

There was no distinction between who owned what, bar what was on someone’s person at the time

[ruby silo]

Was it a member of said raided faction that claims you griefed cogfight?

[lone spindle]

and then they claimed I was someone else’s alt (???), scraped my IP and claimed “I could dox you, but I won’t”

[lone spindle]

yes

see above

I’m condensing it a bit but it genuinely is not that deep, and I’m not gonna get on my knees in front of them begging for forgiveness over one Minecraft server

coads can suck me

[ruby silo]

Perhaps if you provide proof of the doxing threat then you could get them dealt with, though that could be risky, also you could theoretically get back in cogfight if you bring this to a mod’s attention as well as providing a username to prove you haven’t been online

The mods of this server are actually reasonable people

[lone spindle]

I’ve literally no idea who runs this but my ign is BigCrazy if you want to check that against your logs

and as for the doxxing bit I’ll see if I can’t find the screenshot

[ruby silo]

You’d probably not want to send it here, or in my dms (I’m not a mod so I can’t help)

You did say someone in the threatening faction was in here

[lone spindle]

Several

One in particular is @heady gust

who accused me of griefing cogfight and also said the doxxing bit

[pliant wigeon]

I was also in the faction he griefed, although it happened 20 minutes after I went to sleep lol

[lofty spire]

😱

[pliant wigeon]

but yeah, going to dox someone over a conflict in a cube game is dumb

[ruby silo]

Perhaps you could look at the doxxing evidence?

Oh yeah wait, scraping an IP is useless lol, just reset your router
(At least if you have the right type of router)

[pliant wigeon]

He doesn't have the ip unless the server owner gave it to him (I seriously doubt that the owner just gives the ips of the players to random people lol)

[ruby silo]

Is the owner within that faction?

[pliant wigeon]

yep, but he is a chill guy

[ruby silo]

Hmm, doesn’t sound like the shit eating salt consumer that would try to dox someone

[lofty spire]

nope

[lone spindle]

The owner was slightly more chill than the other guy but he’s still a piece of shit for bending the rules like that

[lofty spire]

💩

[gray sonnet]

Fun to watcha

[worthy prairie]

bababooey

[runic stratus]

do we have the radio addon yet or is it still in dev?

[ruby silo]

radio addon? what does that add?

does it add like radio communication?

[fickle saffron]

they meant walkie talkies

[worthy prairie]

so what are chances i get into cogfight

[lavish meteor]

Mannn next cogfight will be limited?

That’s so sad but ig I understand

Mannn I prolly won’t be able to play then hope y’all have fun though I’ll be eager to see all the strategies n stuffs

[minor kelp]

not the worst of chances if you have good behaviour

[ruby silo]

so almost precisely what i was thinking

i was more imagining a block that can be placed that can let you communicate between long distances with proximity chat

[fickle saffron]

there is a speaker block to it too

[ruby silo]

proximity chat radio seems like an interesting idea, though it would likely need to be made with the voice chat mod in mind to work properly

[fickle saffron]

it litterally uses voice chat mod to work

💀

[ruby silo]

exactly

[fickle saffron]

nono i mean like walkie talkies, it uses voice chat mod

[ruby silo]

shit really?

[fickle saffron]

yes 🤦‍♂️

its litterally an addon to voice chat mod

[ruby silo]

i dont know what fucking mod it is, so it's fair to say that i'd have no idea how it works

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/walkie-talkie
this mod right?

[fickle saffron]

ye

[ruby silo]

would be cool to have a block to talk into to send a single, the speaker isnt really the same

[oak obsidian]

that sounds fun

[minor kelp]

was fun
imaging it

sadly
cogfight...
we know what happened instead

[trim badger]

the god damn

[lone spindle]

why don't you just

try again

[heady gust]

sognight

*sobnight

[granite marlin]

I like E.M.I for fabric, haven't ever had any problems with it, and its got a lot of addons https://modrinth.com/mod/emi

[eternal hare]

whats happened/ happening with cogfight?

[lofty spire]

i ate it

[dry tide]

#1108389249906122833

[broken tangle]

hay what is cogfight?

[ruby torrent]

oooooo mah gawwdddd

fight with planes

[broken tangle]

ok cool thought soo but wasn't 100% sure

[toxic anvil]

And a crashing server included for free

\S

[chilly wedge]

something that was never meant to be

[lavish meteor]

well

what it was gonna be was

[lavish meteor]

this

what it ended up being was

a disappointing crashed and griefed server

[worthy prairie]

.

[wet axle]

can i have the program for this!!!

or even just the schematic

[worthy prairie]

.

[lavish meteor]

/

[hasty kestrel]

slander 2

[ruby torrent]

he gets it

[hasty kestrel]

was too lazy to link the actual slander lmao

[ruby torrent]

it's pinned 😭

also slander III coming soon (probably)

[hasty kestrel]

oh yeah i forgor 💀

nice!

when you have like a few more of them you should make 1 big slander using all of them

[wet axle]

atan2

big cannn

[minor kelp]

lmao

although i may have actually made that, but with cogfight compatibility

nothing

[hasty kestrel]

striped

[eternal hare]

its ok just wait till your asked another 999 times....

[ruby torrent]

nah bruh i'm actually aboutta lose it

[broken tangle]

ill ask again then 🙂

[hasty kestrel]

The server has been on all this time?

[stone kraken]

there’s now three (3) walmart cogfights

that’s really funny

[grand sedge]

lmao

why walmart tho

its better than nothing

[grand sedge]

wow no one cares about cogfight

ok

[dusty lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/mald-malding-trolled-mald-harder-gif-25476601

[fickle saffron]

ye i kinda consumed everyone who was playing it into my friends clockwork smp

[lofty spire]

he ate them

[fickle saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[tulip lava]

I may try again

[fickle saffron]

no karam?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[pliant wigeon]

shagadun blop hagendas ikeamah

[warm jewel]

@tulip lava has 2242 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 2758 more karma

[pliant wigeon]

karma spell done

[ruby torrent]

this is why you’re going in slander iv

which might actually be out soon?

[grand sedge]

stop

Don't slandar

Every other mf trying to host cogfight be like:

Actually stop im at least trying to give others a fun time playing smthn that is kind of supposed to be like cogfight till the original one comes out

I'm not against the original one or saying that mines better in any way

[lofty spire]

It worserer.

[grand sedge]

mine?

Obv I had to setted it up in one 2 days

Without any knowledge of plugins or event hosting experience

[lofty spire]

Stupid noob.

[hasty kestrel]

Bro it’s no joke. Literally every cogfight has been delayed or canceled in some way. The only one I still have hope for is Collision Chaos because the airships probably won’t go fast

[lofty spire]

are auto cannons allowed

if they are it's gonna end very quick

[hasty kestrel]

Nope

Just normal cannons, and teams can only have 1 ship with 2-6 players

[lofty spire]

coool

[grand sedge]

aight

im gonna host the round 2 for this now

gonna tweak the server performance everyone will takeoff 1 by 1

from a runway

[devout quail]

cockfight

[ruby torrent]

wtf i thought they autocensored that word 💀

he’s Him

[desert heart]

http://www.portal2sounds.com/1139

[ruby torrent]

how did bro find this exact one 😭

[grand sedge]

yes.

[gray sonnet]

Triggers me the a is red

[gray sonnet]

Lead developer of clockwork sometimes calls it that lol

[fickle saffron]

cockfight

@gray sonnet

[tulip lava]

cockfight

omg it's back

[devout quail]

c(o)ckwork

[past owl]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[slender cliff]

rockwork

[spice bison]

Worcock

[lavish meteor]

gagagagaggagagaaggaggaaggagaagaggaaggagaaggagggaga

[chilly wedge]

gawk gawk work

[stone kraken]

what is cogfight+

??

[ashen comet]

No

[stiff mulch]

deez

[agile jasper]

an event that was gonna be a massive clockwork dogfight event, but instead people griefed and it was cancelled 😔

[pliant granite]

basically
a bunch of high people use a mod to fabricate a war machine to shoot down other high people in their war machines

[hasty kestrel]

(in minecraft)

[minor kelp]

but failed misably because of dipshits

that lagged the server

[pliant granite]

yeah

[stone kraken]

Honestly what a bunch of losers ngl

[heady gust]

Cockfight wouldbe been fun

[fickle saffron]

you were always a bad idea

[earnest hound]

conkfaight

[toxic hedge]

cockfight failed becuse the main orginiser pushed it off til it was only a few hours left to set everything up

the platforms for people to build there ships on where litterly just worldedited boxes

[dusty lotus]

(and also the sheer amount of honestly foreseeable griefing)

[toxic hedge]

yes that also contributed

but it could have been more thought out in the first place

[hasty kestrel]

The griefing could’ve been easily prevented with the time they had to setup

[cosmic gull]

I hope someone tries again someday, the concept sounds really fun

[fickle saffron]

One of the main issues was lag

Which was intentionally caused by people spamming bluper glue

[hasty kestrel]

Exactly that

Easily prevented

[stone kraken]

easy fix, simply ban people willing to lag servers

no second chances

[tribal sleet]

what if we organise a kind of "war" server

so u can build weapons planes drones etc in creative and fight in survival

[ruby torrent]

that's

almost exactly what cogfight was

[outer anvil]

@everyone anyone have a pirated copy of Dora the explorer I can use

[heady gust]

We’re working on a smp where you start on a ship

[brittle needle]

u can try

theres a server in #clockwork-🕛

void event hub

its epic

[tulip lava]

I might

[stone kraken]

ye

[heady gust]

shecks

[past owl]

https://tenor.com/view/hourglass-vaporeon-gif-22726090

[toxic hedge]

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon bre-

[hasty kestrel]

Hey guys, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for humans? Not only are they in the field egg group, which is mostly comprised of mammals, Vaporeon are an average of 3"03' tall and 63.9 pounds. this means they're large enough to be able to handle human dicks, and with their impressive Base Stats for HP and access to Acid Armor, you can be rough with one. Due to their mostly water based biology, there's no doubt in my mind that an aroused Vaporeon would be incredibly wet, so wet that you could easily have sex with one for hours without getting sore. They can also learn the moves Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Captivate, Charm, and Tail Whip, along with not having fur to hide nipples, so it'd be incredibly easy for one to get you in the mood. With their abilities Water Absorb and Hydration, they can easily recover from fatigue with enough water. No other Pokémon comes close to this level of compatibility. Also, fun fact, if you pull out enough, you can make your Vaporeon turn white.

[fickle saffron]

No way this mfer actually fucking posted this in vs2

[hasty kestrel]

Am I gonna get banned?

[ruby torrent]

ask before you post mf 😭

[hasty kestrel]

I’m just gunna leave it there see what happens

[stone kraken]

based asf

[hasty kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[barren jungle]

yes

that was my intention

https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525

[hasty kestrel]

Noooooooo

[pliant granite]

this place has turned from a team based pvp event into a literal shitpost channel

[hasty kestrel]

yeah will there ever be a cogfight

maybe when schematics on ships is a thing, then we don't havee to use bluper

[hasty kestrel]

I also totally forgor about The Solver, and how many people wanted to make superdestroyerships with it

[tulip lava]

every once in a while I come here and just cry

[sterile axle]

random

do you play terraria

[lavish meteor]

Oh my god

I wait for this day in excitement

I’d prolly wanna actually build stuff w physbearings then

I experience chronic “too lazy to properly organize my schems and it’s already too clogged having even just one schem file per creation”

[pliant granite]

cogfight

[hasty kestrel]

my schems are just called "plane 23" "plane 24" "plane 25" with the occasional "plane 25.1" if i forgot something

[stone kraken]

We found the Kerbal

[ruby torrent]

realistic clockwork plane fans when my schematic is named “funny jet fighter 2” instead of “Sturmkwaffel Vammugan Bishenkel Zero-88”

[lavish meteor]

Lmao

Nah I am too goofy to not give my planes stupid ass names

I made a tiltrotor recently and named it squla nuggie

Why? Cause for some reason it kinda reminded me of a squid head fused with a chicken nugget

[hasty kestrel]

My main ship was called “The Flagship” very boringly

Definitely going the goofy way next time

[oak obsidian]

cogfight

fun

[lavish meteor]

Yeah for sure goofy way ain’t as intimidating as stuff like the flagship but it is just way more funny to me

Unless the subject is a goofy as fuck craft with a strong ass serious name

[hasty kestrel]

The Fuckcraft

[spice bison]

I do :D

[hasty kestrel]

I do too :D

[heady gust]

[oak obsidian]

cogfight

[chilly wedge]

Cogfight

[finite nexus]

Cogfight

[rugged widget]

[wind olive]

cog

[finite nexus]

c

[wind olive]

­

[stiff mulch]

YOOOOOO

i found a walkie talkie mod for cogfight

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/walkie-talkie

its for 1.18.2 and forge

[hasty kestrel]

we’re losing!
return to home base

[minor kelp]

“attention to the map”

[ruby torrent]

ATTENTION TO F5
ATTENTION TO F5
REQUESTING FIRE ON X3ON (MIG-21)(VII)
RELOADING (1.2 SECONDS REMAINING)

[brittle needle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1091728302273724416/1102742798286995456/rapidsave.com_htfa791dojwa1.gif

[worthy prairie]

you think it can pull more than 1 G, there practically bricks

[fickle saffron]

e

[stone kraken]

Is there a file I can install for the latest version of the mod?

[fickle saffron]

This is not a mod

Its an event

[stone kraken]

oh

do you happen to know where I can download clockwork?

[visual sedge]

__**It looks like you're trying to download Clockwork!**__

You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.

Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin, which can be separately downloaded from the Kotlin website, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can usually be found in the nightlies channel. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.

Also note that Clockwork is currently exclusively for Minecraft 1.18.2, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.

[stone kraken]

where can I download the cogfight modpack?

[scarlet breach]

Check pins here

[slow locust]

is there gonna be another event?

also can i join the cogfight server?

also, WHITELIST ME

I WILL MAKE IT BETTER

[ruby torrent]

#1109502442065887302 message

0:21

[tulip lava]

I will run a new cogfight event when bluper glue is removed

[fickle saffron]

[tulip lava]

that is a promise

[ruby torrent]

make it 1v1s i beg

on my hands and knees rn

you owe me for top 100

[tulip lava]

fine

tournament style

[ruby torrent]

YYYIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEE

i am about to Manifest Destiny

[tulip lava]

@plucky flare bring us that new build and I begin planning.

[pulsar veldt]

Ooh, sounds fun.
I’ll try to join y’all if people don’t just try to kill the server again..

[hasty kestrel]

Same rules?

It was so fun when everyone was making designs for the fight

[minor kelp]

no way cogfight 2.0

[runic stratus]

our great savior has returned may he bless our craft, guns, and cogs.

questions

Will we be able to import ships or will we build them there. (this also depends on potatos "welding thing")

Will the modlist be the same?

Any rule changes?

[hasty kestrel]

Ofcourse we’re gonna import them, what else

Rules regarding light modded armor may be removed if the default weight is set higher in the latest VS version

[autumn parcel]

ey Qarsuc

[ruby torrent]

what

[autumn parcel]

im sending you butter

once i raise the money

[ruby torrent]

why the fuck did you mention me in cogfight 😭

of all places

[autumn parcel]

i deadass dont remember

might have used the wrong channel on acident

[tulip lava]

DON'T REMIND ME OF MY FAILURE

[ruby torrent]

L

[gray sonnet]

when rematch

[tulip lava]

😭

[chilly wedge]

@tulip lava

[hasty kestrel]

can we have a Kogfight

with kontraption and cb

c

[ruby silo]

Doesn’t mekanism have fucking lasers?

[hasty kestrel]

yes but not working on ships YET (illuc whrn fix?)

[tulip lava]

Host your own event I can't do that again

[hasty kestrel]

lmao

[chilly wedge]

mister random its time

[chilly wedge]

[tulip lava]

Fine

we do need engines back for it so we need to wait a bit longer.

[runic stratus]

gasp cogfight 2 electric boogaloo?

also have an actual "application" process for this one, people submit their team and ship they are gonna use so you can rule out anything. Broken.

[hasty kestrel]

Yeah we need combustion

Oh I am so ready for another Cogfight hype period

[rugged widget]

diesel literally is 8 minutes per bucket of fuel

you can run a plane for an hour on one tank block

[chilly wedge]

Create the factory must grow adds great combustion engines

[hasty kestrel]

jank mod

[hasty kestrel]

No but I want combustion in clockwork so i can start designing my plane around blocks that are most definitely gonna be in the cogfight

[chilly wedge]

Why?

[hasty kestrel]

I don’t rember exactly but I played it once and it had like untextured particles and weird placements and it felt really 1.7.10

[chilly wedge]

Yeah ig, but the whole system is really cool

[gray scarab]

and the new version that's more polished abandoned 1.18.2 ;-;

[hasty kestrel]

rip 😔

[warm jewel]

@brittle needle has 640 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 1360 more karma

[brittle needle]

damn

[warm jewel]

@gray scarab has 738 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 1262 more karma

[warm jewel]

@chilly wedge has 1438 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 562 more karma

[grand sedge]

real

[latent radish]

/katma

[warm jewel]

@latent radish has 205 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 295 more karma

[latent radish]

Oh well

[quiet oracle]

wassup

[hasty kestrel]

dahm

[ruby torrent]

dw once melting point drops me and sub are running back cogfight

[cosmic gull]

was crafts and additions added whenever this happened? its not in the pinned modpack but i dont know if thats the most recent lol

[warm jewel]

@bronze lodge has 847 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 1153 more karma

[bronze lodge]

😔

[warm jewel]

@hasty kestrel has 2141 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 2859 more karma

[bronze lodge]

way to dunk on me heisenberg

[warm jewel]

@ruby torrent has 7497 karma ❤️. You are MAX LEVEL 💖

[bronze lodge]

😔

[shell root]

shit we can do it rn

🙏 just props tho

and a lot tighter rules

[tulip lava]

So I see you two want Cogfight?

aight

[warm jewel]

@shell root has 10455 karma ❤️. You are MAX LEVEL 💖

[chilly wedge]

You have to save the clockwork event scene. I'm failing miserably and tank tussel isn't really the kind of game I was hoping for

[hasty kestrel]

Tank tussle isn’t even close to what cogfight was supposed to be, and bloodvessels isn’t going great either. We just need servers to not spontaneously combust when more than 1 person is building a ship

[bronze lodge]

cogfight 2 😳

count me in

[ruby torrent]

idk did you see the latest freeplay highlights

tt is just as much of a shitshow as cogfight when you let people bring their own stuff

[hasty kestrel]

Yep i know

That’s why we haven’t had a successful similar event yet

[ruby torrent]

unless you heavily vet everyone it’s always gonna be a shitshow ☠️

people are just bad at vs2 and that’s the long and short of it

[lavish meteor]

elitism

[ruby torrent]

name as many genuinely good players in this server as you can

i don’t mean like “yeah you’re getting somewhere” i mean good

[lavish meteor]

Still elitism

I get your point, but cogfight ain’t gonna be that cool unless everyone can play at some point

[shell root]

nuhuh

what makes better content, good look and better working planes or plane versions of ts

[lavish meteor]

Not thinking about content

I think it would make sense to make cogfight more like anyone can join and have a second type of thing more like TT

[shell root]

still the line has to be drawn somewhere

[lavish meteor]

I don’t like looking at grey blobs, lines, etc either, but I don’t think cogfight was meant to be as focused as TT

[lavish meteor]

Yeahhh I’m thinking about that in terms of like what can the server do / preventing ppl from making planes that are seemingly built to crash on their own

So maybe it would be a good idea to have a similar “you need a team of X” requirement / hard encouragement? That would make people have to work in groups (at least in some kind of “main mode” with another “mode” for singles/doubles etc.)

• those who are less skilled at building and don’t care about it too much could help with ideas, so

• the person who cares the most / is the best at building could take lead (which wouldn’t guarantee great looking / functioning planes, but would improve the chances)

• everyone on the team could fly a copy of the vehicle (or however many to involve all of the team) in the event

Another idea could be to make a sort of prefab minimum functioning plane similar to how From The Depths provides plane outer shell thingies (though that game is fairly different in mechanics)

So

• people who don’t know how to use the mod could study the prefab (I used this to learn most of FtD)
• people who aren’t confident in their original designs could use the prefab and decorate it how they like + rearrange things how they like

It would also be good to have the prefab not be the currently most efficient design, so that there’s room for improvement if people wanna try cracking at it

[shell root]

Thats deadass a good idea, teaches the basics so people dont show up with bricks

[ruby silo]

some way to learn the mod past the ponders menu would be honestly kinda great

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