Cogfight

[worthy prairie]

no worky

[scarlet shard]

it's such a strange thing

[fickle saffron]

ok so

funny thing

physics bearings

dont work, but only on my desktop pc

the same pack

on the same world

with the same ver of the mod

works on my laptop

[worthy prairie]

see

its dum

[fickle saffron]

i think the physics bearing thing is hardware specific?????

wtf

but it worked last patch

and works on my laptop

💀

@plucky flare funnky wunky lore

[scarlet shard]

strange as heck

[fickle saffron]

il even record a video

because im not sleepy (the person)

[plucky flare]

What specs does your desktop pc have

@plush crow even more sussy hardware differences 😳

[fickle saffron]

gtx 1650 super, 32 gb ram, ryzen 5 3500

[lavish meteor]

real

i like all the wacky shits

[plucky flare]

What about your laptop

[fickle saffron]

my laptop is gtx 1650, 16 gb of ram, ryzen 5 4000

i used the same mods in the same pack on both computers

with the same world file

actually not even just same world, same entire instance

[plucky flare]

Guh that’s almost identical

[fickle saffron]

on same launcher

(prism)

with same ram settings

with same in game settings

sending vid now

to show im not skissuing

il send log too

[worthy prairie]

how does crappy school laptop sound for everything be broken

relating to physics bearing

how do you lock the thing

[fickle saffron]

wrench

[worthy prairie]

and the seat like placement is funky

[fickle saffron]

scroll

[worthy prairie]

i shall try that tomarrow

are you making any small fighter jets null?

and why do propeller bearings require sails not on the main axis

[fickle saffron]

i may or may not be 😄

[worthy prairie]

bro i probably wont even participate in cogfight

i have 0 teammates cuz sombrero aint even responding in dm's

u sure i cant join ur team 👀

[fickle saffron]

sombrero did some trolling

#1104094752380551248

read the top team

💀

[worthy prairie]

are you fuckiiing kididding meeee

i literally dm'd him all my designs

i bet he copying me

just like my p38

lightning II

[fickle saffron]

i kinda doubt it

since yall build your stuff of real designs

[worthy prairie]

true

however its very weird we keep choosing the same things

and him after me

after i share pictures

[worthy prairie]

do you want my jet

i probably wont participate

is my jet any good

i should probalby ask that first

[gray sonnet]

@tulip lava can we have a gps array everyone can use during competition?

[fickle saffron]

why dont you just make it yourself

[shy grove]

i was trying to make a helecoptor vtol looking thing, i fired the main guns and it crasshed the game

[plush crow]

install kotlinforforge

[shy grove]

suprisingly it was almost stable

[gray sonnet]

howwwwwww

[fickle saffron]

bro just ignored the sussy bug 💀

[gray sonnet]

?????

first of all

how would i get it to not be misconfigured for position

[fickle saffron]

build it in the real world

[worthy prairie]

i had that

[lavish meteor]

everyone should use gps it'll be fun

[fickle saffron]

ikr great idea

[worthy prairie]

how tf do you make gps

[lavish meteor]

have a few pretty spread out cc computers preferably with ender modems

there's also a neat little diagram on cc tweaked's wiki

in the guides sectino

[lavish meteor]

give em coords and tell em to be a gps (look at documentation)

and once you've got that all good

[worthy prairie]

why do you need that

[fickle saffron]

@plush crow sorry to bother you but i think vs2 is slighty broken with all these hardware incoistoncies so now @v does not work for delete when on the same pack it worked fine on my world but i joined my friends and it does not work on theirs?????

[dire grove]

how do you teleport all the vehicles to your location

[lavish meteor]

with your team

you can just put a monitor in your cockpit or

hold a personal computer in your inv

that reads out the coords of your allies

[worthy prairie]

why would you want that

i dont have a team anyways so

😭

idk if my jet is even any good

i havent even flown the damn thing

and my teamate left me

all the other people who I think are half decent at making jets/aircraft are all on the same team

:/

[lavish meteor]

Not having to use comma

Comms

Bc for most saying coords is unwieldy

[fickle saffron]

i think i figured out the issue

with physics bearings

make sure ur on latest vs2 in nightlies

i changed to that ver and it magically worked again

[gray sonnet]

@fickle saffron Your vs2 version is old

[minor kelp]

why do i feel extremely uncomfortable on how to define a queue in lua

[minor kelp]

also why is cc screen so d i m

without shaders

[finite nexus]

Its not explicitly said but we are banning elytra and rockets right?

or at least rockets

[minor kelp]

hmmm
what can that do tho

the disqualification, is plane touching ground

not player

[finite nexus]

i can just have someone in the team fly the ship and go and mine out every other ship

just run up and right click peoples props

which, while funny, seems inbalanced

[minor kelp]

hmmmm you'd either get flinged by vs physics or a security team dispatched on you by the team

[finite nexus]

eh

im seeing a lot of planes

gonna only be a pilot there

[minor kelp]

i am also using plaanes

that flies faster than elytra

[finite nexus]

and its not like their planes are nearly manueverable enough to catch someone

[minor kelp]

yes

[finite nexus]

they are?

[minor kelp]

or.... maybe mine might be manuverable

a bit tad too manuverable

also no i dont use props so

[finite nexus]

true

i guess airship users are fuck tho

[minor kelp]

yes

would be funny to get boarded

and out-pvped

[finite nexus]

true

depends how well you hide your balloons

[minor kelp]

yes

also hiding your wires

dont let me board your ship or else

also is minimap allowed while event is on

or no

[brittle needle]

So is leaving the plane and elytra allowed?

Also PLEASE make the final rules, the event is around the corner and we people want to know if our designs arent allowed BEFORE the start of the event with time to fix it

[pseudo wharf]

The rules are in https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1059571325741568000

Scroll up a bit

[brittle needle]

Oh right

So is block placing and breaking allowed?

[fickle saffron]

Iris

[fickle saffron]

I think yours is too

[minor kelp]

oh

[idle fable]

Hey, so how will this event start? Will we get some time in Creative to place our planes and do setup like glue the flaps, load the inventories and fix things that get broken when placed by schematics?

[plucky flare]

yes

the fight will only begin once everyone's vehicles are loaded and ready

hopefully that goes over... mostly smoothly

depending on the bs sizes some people are making though

axolotl's ship has like a 50% chance of breaking the event ngl

i dont think its even been assembled

[idle fable]

Alright, and would we be allowed to include creative crates in our schematics to initially load any inventories we have and then destroy the creative crates or is this strictly prohibited?

[gray sonnet]

You can do normal storage

[idle fable]

But those inventories don't get saved in the schematics afaik, fluids yes but vaults, chests, barrels and hoppers all go empty

So in the interest of saving time and effort I think it would be a good idea to be allowed to have creative inventories at the start just to load up the regular inventories (unless there's some way of saving them in the schematics that I'm not aware of)

[minor kelp]

true

i also have that problem

[gray sonnet]

Cogfight every other week?

[idle fable]

I'd be down for that

[minor kelp]

its... monthly isnt it

but weekly might be fun

[gray sonnet]

Weekly might be too much which is why i said every other week

[minor kelp]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

interesting

[worthy prairie]

why not just whenever

like if multiple people are on the server

you dont even really have to be in survival even to fight

[minor kelp]

you should be in surivial, although disqualification is plane touching ground
losing a pilot usually means losing control anyway

[gray sonnet]

It seems like they want to do a different theme every time

Usually....

[fickle saffron]

We get an hour of prep time

Tho i do see your point

If its all the same in the end then its prob fine

[gray sonnet]

Only an hour?

[minor kelp]

annoying that all my items are g o n e when i schem it

[gray sonnet]

Wait

[minor kelp]

an hour is enough with creative

[gray sonnet]

Are we using world edit schematics?

Or create

[minor kelp]

i dont think we even have WE

[fickle saffron]

Create

World edit hates create

[minor kelp]

also WE doesnt have glues

[gray sonnet]

My code doesn't save with create

Or items

[fickle saffron]

Dumbass

The code is in the world file

[minor kelp]

code, use pastebin or something

[fickle saffron]

Not the computer

He forgor

[gray sonnet]

?

[minor kelp]

item, uhhhhh thats a problem

[fickle saffron]

Cc code is in world file in the computercraft folder

Its not saved in the actual block

[minor kelp]

he means, code is saved per computer id, per world

[gray sonnet]

Ik that

[minor kelp]

pastebin command exists

[gray sonnet]

I fixed the broken permissions by erasing all cc data

I had code saved on my computer tho

[minor kelp]

hmmmm you either need to send the code to the server's host
OR use pastebin

[fickle saffron]

Drag and drop

[minor kelp]

or host the file somewhere and wget it

[gray sonnet]

Or use the plugin I use

[fickle saffron]

You can drag and drop

[gray sonnet]

To upload frpm my computer

[minor kelp]

wait

you can?

[fickle saffron]

Its been a thing for years

[gray sonnet]

Visual studio code

[minor kelp]

dangit

[gray sonnet]

Has a extension

[fickle saffron]

Yes i know

[minor kelp]

you use VSC?
i use npp

[fickle saffron]

Wtf

Note pad plus?

[gray sonnet]

Ik you know

For coding?????

[minor kelp]

note pad plus plus
oh wait

its nppp

[fickle saffron]

Thats disgusting

Vsc has actual cc extensions

[minor kelp]

what i forgot i also have vsc

[fickle saffron]

For intelisense and auto complete

[minor kelp]

and i just used nppp entirely for my program

[fickle saffron]

And syntax highlighting

[gray sonnet]

Bruh you were gonna use notepad for coding

[minor kelp]

notepad++
but yea i have used worse

[fickle saffron]

Why do that to yourself

[minor kelp]

dev-c for cpp

[fickle saffron]

Tbh the default editor is better then cppp

[gray sonnet]

I don't even like editing server configs in np

[minor kelp]

its not bad
i am used to programming without assist

[fickle saffron]

There is no reason to abuse yourself

Stop it, get some help

[minor kelp]

more or less, force of habit

[fickle saffron]

It takes two seconds to get the extensions and get set up in vsc

[minor kelp]

lmao

[gray sonnet]

I think you need to explain how to connect

[minor kelp]

tbh the only reason i used nppp is it can copy paste unlike default editor

[gray sonnet]

Anything can copy and paste

[minor kelp]

cc's uhhh in computer editor cannot copy, and paste one line

[gray sonnet]

That is legit in Minecraft

[minor kelp]

yep

like 50 line of my code is written in it

[gray sonnet]

Only 50????

[minor kelp]

before i used nppp externally for another 50

and even more debug

[gray sonnet]

Debugging in mc editor is a pain

[minor kelp]

i have worse

damn c makes all runtime error segfault

this is tolerable

[gray sonnet]

Its a pain when you have like 15 line math equation and mess something up

[minor kelp]

true

[gray sonnet]

I have 2 days to finish my stuff

[minor kelp]

same

[gray sonnet]

Is it essential for your flight?

[minor kelp]

nope

everything essential is (mostly) ready

but its aharder to implement qol

i would be happy if it works

but i dont need to

[gray sonnet]

I need mine too

[fickle saffron]

Mfer use vsc

Vsc has copy pasting

[minor kelp]

idk nppp works for me

[fickle saffron]

Stop it

Get some help

[pseudo wharf]

Damn i should start finishing my plane insted of making a mecha spider

Also is there a list with block weights?

[minor kelp]

i think there is somewhere in showcase

[pseudo wharf]

Good to know

[minor kelp]

https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1101991250703429692

[idle fable]

Damn, that's a lot of time

[minor kelp]

dunno if its up to date

[gray sonnet]

What about fuel for my engines

I need that

[minor kelp]

i think we get creative

or else i wont spend a month making my plane entirely in survival

[pseudo wharf]

You have an hour to prepare your ship, it's more that enough

[idle fable]

Fuel in tanks transfers via schematics

[minor kelp]

lmao....
No......
NO.....

[gray sonnet]

I don't use fuel

Fluid

[idle fable]

How is it going to work for the second ship? Do we prep both at the start?

[gray sonnet]

I use item fuel

[minor kelp]

same

[idle fable]

Are you using a steam engine?

[minor kelp]

i, dont

[gray sonnet]

Yes

[idle fable]

I feel like so many more things could go wrong with a steam engine in a fight

[fickle saffron]

At least you wont run out of fuel

[gray sonnet]

Ye

[idle fable]

That is the one advantage I can think of

[gray sonnet]

I will outlast everyone

[fickle saffron]

Its perfect for a carrier ship

Which is why the EFDC-004 is also using steam engines

[gray sonnet]

Nullharp what's your teams largest ship

[minor kelp]

meanwhile me not using steam engine and pure afterburner builds:

[fickle saffron]

EFDC-004 which is 300 blocks long

[gray sonnet]

Bruh thats not possible you need combustion for pumps

[minor kelp]

true

but combustion is only for pump

efficiency down the drain but eh

[gray sonnet]

Is it a carrier?

[fickle saffron]

(Egg Fleet Death Cruiser) it has space for carrying vehicles and refueling

But its mainly a cruiser

[idle fable]

Damn that's huge, you using balloons?

[pseudo wharf]

I made one cruiser that use items vaults as battery fuel but the god damn stickers don't work for now

Maybe soon or maybe we somehow get magnets

[minor kelp]

in that case, maybe t n t r a i l g u n

if we get em that is

[finite nexus]

Honestly i would love to see how that flies since i also have a carrier but it's gonna be a struggle to lift it

[lavish meteor]

I am terrible at making big ships on short notice

My creative process boils down to either

Having an idea spontaneously and knowing exactly how it will look from the start

[minor kelp]

i dont even have a team to control a cruiser even if i build one lol

[lavish meteor]

Or having creative block for three days and randomly coming up with something

[finite nexus]

CJ i got at least one free spot if you want to join

We are a crew of certified dipshits but yknow

[minor kelp]

k ill join

[finite nexus]

Sick

[minor kelp]

i dont have a team
i do have a f e w planes and techs tho

[finite nexus]

We have not registered yet but will soon

Nice

We have 1 confirmed working jet and I'm working on a thing

[fickle saffron]

I would have recruited if that did not mean any new members had to not participate in the first day 😔

[minor kelp]

good thing is first day is 8AM for me

otherwise it'd be impossible to join

[finite nexus]

Ah

Alright gtg but I'll be in touch

[minor kelp]

project LTGM is performing better and better

[shy grove]

Anyone know if the portable fluid pumps work ship to ship?

[minor kelp]

no

[shy grove]

Maybe that should be a thing added in at some point? If it isn't planned already, cause while you can't fule a ship to ground fuling ship to ship would be nice and easy that way

[lavish meteor]

My solution so far has just been weighted ejectors

[tulip lava]

tubes are planned

[lavish meteor]

Also works real nice bc range and I am a shit flyer so I need a fair bit of leeway

[shy grove]

I've been trying to make it so that fule doesn't need to be re applied often, I'm only using one combustion engine and the props are main source of lift, might add afterblazers to it for better forward propulsion make it a jet/chopper hybrid

[hasty kestrel]

Use waterwheels

[shy grove]

Why not use windmills with RSC

[minor kelp]

nah its a p l a n e

and i also have my w a y s

yea its designed to handle 24 afterblazers i dont think thats a problem

[worldly cypress]

what the fuck

[minor kelp]

what

[worldly cypress]

that's a lot

[minor kelp]

its designed to support 24 at full throttle for an hour straight

eh the details of what witchcraft i used will be revealed soon

[worldly cypress]

wtf????

[minor kelp]

a result of a 1 day r&d

[idle fable]

That's 576 000mB per Hour for each afterblazer

[minor kelp]

yep

[idle fable]

x24 is 13,824,000

[minor kelp]

calculate how much fuel i carry

yep.

14KB

like in literal kilobickets

kilobuckets

[idle fable]

That's 1728 fluid tank blocks

[minor kelp]

nope 🙂

[tulip lava]

Potato is adding a multi block thruster soon.

[minor kelp]

wow

[idle fable]

Cube root of 1728 is 12 so its a 12x12x12 fluid tank.....

[idle fable]

Amazing

[tulip lava]

It may be more fuel effective for its size but I'm not sure

[worldly cypress]

wtf leaked???!!1!

[minor kelp]

if i reveal how i did it, the meta will definetely use it
and laser powering isnt an issue too

[tulip lava]

when I say soon I mean it's planned within the next few nightlys

[idle fable]

"soon"

[tulip lava]

pretty small

[idle fable]

tiny actually

[minor kelp]

my plane is not very big

[tulip lava]

my ultimate weapon for cogfight is bigger than that

[minor kelp]

you'd be surprised how compact the storage is

[idle fable]

unless you've found a way to overlap tanks I'm not sure how you could compact that

[minor kelp]

around 30x30 with height 10

[tulip lava]

I'm just making a plane that never runs out of power

[minor kelp]

not overlapping, but compact, there IS a way

[tulip lava]

dark magic

[minor kelp]

if i decided to not use afterblazers probably can last a day

[idle fable]

Alright, I guess I'll see it on Friday

[minor kelp]

not complicated
but eh noone is doing it

reveal on friday

hints: intentional game design, dont think its a funny glitch i found

[tulip lava]

your describing dark magic

[minor kelp]

lol

[scarlet shard]

how many messages are we at in here now?

[minor kelp]

likely more than a thousand

[tulip lava]

1500 away

then we beat Sundial

[fickle saffron]

14k

[minor kelp]

lmao

[scarlet shard]

ayy nice

[tulip lava]

a bit more than 1000

[scarlet shard]

about 1700 more to go, right?

[minor kelp]

my plane is filled with belkan witchcraft

[tulip lava]

this channel is probably gonna blow up this weekend due to the actual cogfight event

[scarlet shard]

yeah

[minor kelp]

true

[scarlet shard]

speaking of, I gotta work on my ship now

*second ship

[tulip lava]

so we're probably gonna blow past Sundial and reach the tier of actual server chat

[minor kelp]

i keep forgetting i can schematic my vs ships

and rebuilding what i tested on my ship over and over

[scarlet shard]

that's important to remember lmao

[minor kelp]

just to schematic

[tulip lava]

at this point we should just make an actual server chat for cogfight

[minor kelp]

hm

[scarlet shard]

yeah, especially if it's gonna be a monthly thing

[tulip lava]

it's gotten like 14k messages in 11 days

that's over 1000 messages a day

[scarlet shard]

yep

maybe we could also have a "cogfight" tag in showcase

[minor kelp]

thats how we know hype campaign is a success

[worldly cypress]

all hype but im so confused about which cw version we will use

and how the meta will change once new blocks like the laser will drop

[ashen comet]

it alredy has

[worldly cypress]

and we have to adjust with little time left

[minor kelp]

laser dropped, but 1.4 laser is currently useless

[worldly cypress]

yes i know

[minor kelp]

1.3*

ugh

[worldly cypress]

i mean when the new laser will drop

[scarlet shard]

well on the bright side, everyone has the same amount of time to adjust

[minor kelp]

a while

[worldly cypress]

yeah, still sucks tho, for everyone

[scarlet shard]

I'm expecting this event to be very scuffed

[minor kelp]

yes

[scarlet shard]

but that's fine tbh

[worldly cypress]

:|

[minor kelp]

axol's ship is worrysome

[scarlet shard]

it's the first one

[minor kelp]

he might lag the serv

[worldly cypress]

that's fair ig...

[scarlet shard]

so it's bound to run into problems

[minor kelp]

can even axol's ship form

[worldly cypress]

wait till you see ours

[minor kelp]

wait what

[scarlet shard]

I'm excited to see what everyone's cooking up

[worldly cypress]

idk if it's as big as his

but it's big

[minor kelp]

while i have been building planes

you guys have been building colossal ships?

[fickle saffron]

Im multitasking

[worldly cypress]

we be buildin straight up arsenal birds

[fickle saffron]

Ive been doing both

[minor kelp]

more targets to shoot down with my tls

[worldly cypress]

know that the limit is two ships per player

[scarlet shard]

I've got myself a "medium" ship, and I wouldn't say my other ship is huge, but it ain't too small either

[worldly cypress]

tls?

[gray sonnet]

One round from my cannons and you out

[worldly cypress]

oh shut up axolotl

[minor kelp]

if you know ace combat you probably knows tls right?

[minor kelp]

i dont think they're that stupid to get one shotted

[worldly cypress]

ohh okay

[fickle saffron]

Oh im aware

[gray sonnet]

You have no idea how many cannons I have

[minor kelp]

now heres a question: can you even infuse your ship

[dry tide]

what

why

[scarlet shard]

the thing about being destroyed by cannon fire is that the cannons actually have to hit

[minor kelp]

yes

[fickle saffron]

Because its funny

[dry tide]

stop tryna scare null

[fickle saffron]

We have lots of cannons as well

[worldly cypress]

can nullharp infuse his 300 block long ship?

[minor kelp]

and you'd need something like [redacted] for autoaim if you ever even want to

[gray sonnet]

I can?

[minor kelp]

wow how doesnt your pc die

[fickle saffron]

How many fpm do you get?

(Frames per minute)

[gray sonnet]

120

160 without

[minor kelp]

how the f

.....
now heres a question:
can the server infuse his ship

[scarlet shard]

hey, are create's ornate iron windows strong against cannons at all?

[gray sonnet]

I host a test server my team uses

[fickle saffron]

I said frames per minute

[minor kelp]

lol

i dont want to fly my plane while server has 2 tps

would not be fun

[gray sonnet]

Slide show

[minor kelp]

lol

[gray sonnet]

I think my carrier is 100 blocks long

[minor kelp]

what

[gray sonnet]

I cant imagine cogfight not lagging

There might be 50 people

[proper kayak]

making this a packwiz for updates

[minor kelp]

i would not like lag
i want to dogfight, not lag to death

[gray sonnet]

Lol

[fickle saffron]

True

[scarlet shard]

I wonder how these big ships that people are making will fare up against the small fast and maneuverable ships

[minor kelp]

small and extremely manuverable planes with lasers

[scarlet shard]

lmao

[fickle saffron]

What lasers

They are being removed and reworked

🤡

[gray sonnet]

Big ships will fight big ships

[minor kelp]

yes

[fickle saffron]

They will most likley not be in cogfight

[minor kelp]

i'd replace it with a cannon later

hmm

i will still make lasers tho when the reworked one comes out

to stick to the canon lore for funny

[scarlet shard]

turns out ornate iron windows are horribly fragile when shot with AP autocannon rounds

[gray sonnet]

I am gonna keep my cannons

Mabye mount 2 massive laser's

[minor kelp]

i should work on my plane's armament

[pseudo wharf]

My only problem is a good defence but i will found something maybe

[worldly cypress]

on that note, can we please at least have a set version of Clockwork we'll be using for cogfight 2-3 days beforehand?

[minor kelp]

my problem is, without lasers, uhhh firepower reduces, a lot
gotta find a replacement

[worldly cypress]

I don't like surprises

[fickle saffron]

Whatever the latest is

[worldly cypress]

really?

...okay

[fickle saffron]

No we are using first release

[worldly cypress]

what

[fickle saffron]

Yes really

[worldly cypress]

?

whats first release

[fickle saffron]

It was sarcasm

[fickle saffron]

The first public build

[worldly cypress]

what

[fickle saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-stickfigure-not-affected-gif-14391548

[fickle saffron]

It was sarcasm

[worldly cypress]

theres a public build?

again?

[fickle saffron]

🤦‍♂️

[worldly cypress]

tell me straight man

what are you gay

[fickle saffron]

I dont have time for this

[worldly cypress]

dude

[fickle saffron]

No the afterblazer is

[worldly cypress]

come on

[fickle saffron]

Gay

[worldly cypress]

what version

[fickle saffron]

Latest on friday

[worldly cypress]

ok

thanks

also bruh

[minor kelp]

patch 1.2 or 1.3?

[worldly cypress]

latest

1.3

[minor kelp]

hmmm

1.3c? Or the 1.3a without the l a s e r

[worldly cypress]

1.3c prob

so no laser

[minor kelp]

1.3c, but laser are banned
hmmm

[worldly cypress]

oh wait yeah it has laser but uhh

[minor kelp]

1.3c lasers are broken in range anyway

[worldly cypress]

true

will not be so usefull

[scarlet shard]

I have come to the conclusion that windows might be a bad idea

at least at the size I made them

[proper kayak]

https://cdn.merith.xyz/.releases/minecraft/modpacks/cogfight/.build/

done

get the zip from there,

oh GOD DAMNIT

[minor kelp]

lmao get it from #clockwork-devlog

[proper kayak]

https://hackmd.io/@merith-tk/B1Jn2yyE3

[minor kelp]

and maybe update the pack then

[proper kayak]

done

[proper kayak]

packwiz doesnt need redownloading

https://mclo.gs/R7NRUO2

read the top part of the log where it runs the pre-launch

[minor kelp]

hmmm

[proper kayak]

Hence this guide

welp

create deco crashed

[minor kelp]

lmao

[proper kayak]

https://mclo.gs/cpoFf27

[minor kelp]

this idk

[proper kayak]

do we need create deco?

wait packwiz has the wrong version wt

[worldly cypress]

also may 13 9 am will be the first day, but what is the timezone??? @fickle saffron

[proper kayak]

OOHHH

because create deco is forge only

SO

@fickle saffron Forge or Fabric?

Fabric, we loose deco

Forge, we get an updated CC

[lavish meteor]

Oh what

[proper kayak]

react with
🔨 forge
📜 fabric

[lavish meteor]

Create fabric isn’t great but it works and

Some of my friends have dookie PCs

[tulip lava]

create deco is on fabric

what you talking about

[proper kayak]

out of date

way out of date

[tulip lava]

we are on fabric already

[proper kayak]

that "beta" is the only fabric release

other than the one that is added

unless it has weirdness

[tulip lava]

listen we need all the performance we can get

we are probably gonna have like 100 ships all flying and fighting at the same time

[proper kayak]

Aight

[lavish meteor]

Real

[proper kayak]

let me run this through my pack optimizer

[lavish meteor]

And considering ppl have made

Shit ranging from light super maneuverable fighters (cj)

To giant things crammed with cannons (axol and nullie)

Null is internally referred to as nullie

[proper kayak]

WELP

Packwiz is working now

so

https://cdn.merith.xyz/.releases/minecraft/modpacks/cogfight/.build/

https://hackmd.io/@merith-tk/B1Jn2yyE3

[worldly cypress]

random please whats the timezone when potato said it will start may 13 9 am

[proper kayak]

also plz pin

[worldly cypress]

ohh

ohwait

[tulip lava]

I honestly don't know anymore

[worldly cypress]

the message

[tulip lava]

@plucky flare

[worldly cypress]

it adjust to your timezone...

no

im sorry

[lavish meteor]

Isn’t it an

Auto adjusting message thingy

I think

[worldly cypress]

it i

is

im stupid

[lavish meteor]

No worries

Cause I was like wait am I stupid

[proper kayak]

I also see by this that this should be aded??

[lavish meteor]

Actually tho I got like the best ass times straight up

[lavish meteor]

Wasn’t a poll put in clockwork for all to see

Just a random thing put in here

And at this point it would be too late to add

A poll isn’t a true poll if barely anyone sees it

[proper kayak]

not really

[lavish meteor]

And the super low amount of votes indicates that barely anyone actually chipped in

And that most likely barely anyone saw it

[tulip lava]

we've already gone through the valk computers discussion

[proper kayak]

it shouldnt affect anything

[lavish meteor]

Since a little over a week ago

[proper kayak]

and the result?

[lavish meteor]

There have been like

What

4 different revisions to the pack?

[tulip lava]

we aren't adding it this time

[lavish meteor]

At some point you just gotta go like yeah making any more changes at this point is just too much

[proper kayak]

Guess What

[tulip lava]

maybe in the next cog fight

[proper kayak]

Packwiz

and my template

[lavish meteor]

That’s not the point

[proper kayak]

can build all releases

[lavish meteor]

The point is that people don’t like it when the pack changes

Not because of having to download more shit

[proper kayak]

as an server owner and modpack developer

[lavish meteor]

Most of us have good internet

[proper kayak]

they can fucking suffer

[lavish meteor]

As a player

[lavish meteor]

This is how you lose players

[lavish meteor]

It’s because of changing the meta

[proper kayak]

as an player, I would rather update to an automatically updating format

[lavish meteor]

The Solver and physbearings have already been added post announcement

[proper kayak]

than have to download mods by hand every time

[lavish meteor]

That has nothing to do with the essential problem of that VC changes the meta too much

People have a set of expectations for cogfight already

[tulip lava]

As a youtuber and valkyrien skies engineer I've decided that valk comps would give an unfair advantage

[proper kayak]

Aight, thats fine,

but packwiz will be useful

[lavish meteor]

Real

[lavish meteor]

Yeah we could try packwiz

I don’t know all that much about it but it sounds cool

[proper kayak]

Random plz pin

[lavish meteor]

Then again it’s up to the people up top

[tulip lava]

As I reminded people, this was meant to be a 8 or 9 person dogfight that spiraled out of my control.

[lavish meteor]

As someone who is halfway involved in coding and has lightly dipped their toes into the water of CC and knows the kinda shit people could get up to with even just a ship radar and the CC default gps system

VC would be an unfair advantage

[tulip lava]

I have zero fucking clue what I'm doing here

[proper kayak]

am fine with no VC, can work around it

[proper kayak]

I can help

[lavish meteor]

And would be better left off to like a once in a while thing or day of a cogfight

[lavish meteor]

Hah

[tulip lava]

That's why I left about 70% of the work to Potato

[lavish meteor]

Hah

I’ve been saddled with AP tests

I do an AP test get home and just play ultrakill every once in a while while calling partner to space out

[gray sonnet]

@tulip lava can we move the Sunday event to Monday or do it twice?

[proper kayak]

Well I have this setup, so pin it,
#1101571779870339142 message

makes it so I (or those who I give access to the fit repo) can push the updates and users not have to update shit

[lavish meteor]

I would advise against schedule changes at this point ngl

[tulip lava]

why?

[gray sonnet]

I can't attend sunday one

[tulip lava]

that's gonna happen for some people

that's why we have 3 days

[gray sonnet]

Eh it's fine

Did potato tell you they are all different events?

[tulip lava]

yeah

[lavish meteor]

Ngl

[tulip lava]

I gave it the go ahead

[lavish meteor]

I’m super excited

Just a very fun progression of shit

[gray sonnet]

Ok

[lavish meteor]

Everybody gets to be in their strategical element for the first one

A demonstration of downright chaos for the second one

[gray sonnet]

I am just a little confused why day 2 and 3 aren't swapped

[tulip lava]

then my dementia kicked in that I forgot about

[lavish meteor]

And then a semi-strategical semi-chaotic thing for the third one

[lavish meteor]

You have dementia?

Condolences

[gray sonnet]

I will probably still use a massive flagship solo on day 2

[lavish meteor]

I mean it would make sense with the transition to chaos but

I like the organization

Showing order, then chaos, then a final mix of the two

Omg summoning salt video in six years

[proper kayak]

https://cdn.merith.xyz/.releases/minecraft/modpacks/cogfight/.build/
now has
curseforge import
modrinth import
multimc/packwiz import
and technic

[gray sonnet]

All of them will probably be chaos

[proper kayak]

but lets face it, almost everyone will be using CF

[gray sonnet]

I am

[proper kayak]

yeah

[lavish meteor]

I’m using gdlauncher

Because lazy

[proper kayak]

the launcher that refused to install because I used windows 11

[lavish meteor]

Windows 11 users 🤓

[proper kayak]

the electron (chrome) launcher that gives zero advantages and is more of a pain in the ass to use

[lavish meteor]

Slash jay

[tulip lava]

Prism Supremacy

[lavish meteor]

Zero advantages my ass

It looks cool and has import zip

[gray sonnet]

Part of my team doesn't use cf tho

[lavish meteor]

And that’s all I care about

[proper kayak]

Oh really? what does GD do better than any other launcher? other than eat more ram

because

electron, AKA CHROME

[lavish meteor]

You already said it’s chrome my guy

Why are you even arguing to me about this

Advantages are subjective

And I just outlined my low ass barrel bottom standards

That gdlauncher happens to meet

[proper kayak]

prism looks nice, has import zip for all commonly used formats

[lavish meteor]

And that I don’t mind using gdlauncher when there’s probably way better shit

I have a good enough PC to run heavily modded vanilla comfortably, so I don’t really need to worry about performance

[tulip lava]

can't wait to beat axol in cogfight

[lavish meteor]

Can’t wait to get annihilated by something cool

And become a spectator

Or have unknowingly uncovered the secret sauce

Oh I know what I’ll make my big airship/refueling space

A da Vinci tank that flies

[fickle saffron]

Whatever the latest is on friday, id say 6 hours before the event, thats the latest clockwork will be

[lavish meteor]

And unravels with ohysbearings to make a wall for me to slam into to land

[worldly cypress]

bro

[fickle saffron]

You mean cant wait for me to beat axol in cogfight?

[worldly cypress]

it needs to be more than 24 HOURS before the event

[lavish meteor]

Will probably use cc to setup an interface readout for each cannon to say which ones are loaded and ready

[worldly cypress]

any lower than that is bs

[plucky flare]

Creative barrels can be added during the prep phase

They must be removed

After that

And they also are not allowed to be in schematics

[lavish meteor]

Watch random make a plane

[worldly cypress]

@plucky flare dont you agree

[lavish meteor]

That ends up being like a god damn transformer

[idle fable]

Got it

[lavish meteor]

I am gonna have a tight ass schedule

Doing missing assignments

Studying for ap music theory test

Because I know I’ll bomb it if I don’t, this ain’t a “oh I can just look at flash cards for 20 minutes right before” this is a “if I don’t spend at least four hours one of these days doing a serious review I’m fucking dead”

And on top of that, I’ll have to make a refueling vessel

[gray sonnet]

Correction i cant wait to be beaten by axol in cogfight

[lavish meteor]

Axol they got two mech builders and a developer of the mod on their team

It’s not looking good for you my guy

[minor kelp]

cant wait to be hit by a stray bullet and die

[lavish meteor]

Same

My plane is prolly considerably heavy

Considering I used copper stairs as a main blocky block

[gray sonnet]

Who said its stray

[proper kayak]

https://cdn.merith.xyz/.releases/minecraft/modpacks/cogfight/.build/
https://hackmd.io/@merith-tk/B1Jn2yyE3

for those who would rather use another launcher other than curseforge

[minor kelp]

cant wait to have 5 tps and stall to death

[dry tide]

prism launcher the best minecraft launcher

better than atlauncher

[desert heart]

Can't wait to have a physics thread crash after the first 7 minutes

[dry tide]

cant wait to wake up at 5 am to play

[desert heart]

And plummet while server is loading

[lavish meteor]

Rip

Bro I got super lucky with the timezones

They are all nice and convenient

[fickle saffron]

In my defense it

[desert heart]

Darn

So what y'all gonna do when physics crashes?

[gray sonnet]

I am an hour ahead of you

[worldly cypress]

luckyyyy

[livid karma]

sorry if it's a dum qestion How could I get the cogfight mopack?

[fickle saffron]

Pins

Dont forget to update clockwork and vs2, im making a packwiz pack today so that it will be easily updatable

[minor kelp]

we need a contingency plan

[fickle saffron]

We? Ive got mine

[livid karma]

Thx

[worldly cypress]

are elytras allowed?
also is respawning allowed? cuz the main objective is to down the ship right

not kill the player

[lavish meteor]

Perish

Cry

Cops

Cope*

Seethe

[pliant wigeon]

💀

[lavish meteor]

Us being unable to tell if physics doesn’t or not bc we were going at slideshow speed anyway

[proper kayak]

or
https://cdn.merith.xyz/.releases/minecraft/modpacks/cogfight/.build/
https://hackmd.io/@merith-tk/B1Jn2yyE3

build zips use the same mods as the pack

[livid karma]

k

[fickle saffron]

Yes but no firework

[worldly cypress]

why

[fickle saffron]

Too maneuverable

[worldly cypress]

wha

uh

...ok

[worldly cypress]

so we can respawn on our ship?

[fickle saffron]

Yes

[worldly cypress]

alright

[worldly cypress]

what are the rules on boarding ships and exploding it with placed tnt

[fickle saffron]

Yes

[worldly cypress]

ah

damn

ok

[fickle saffron]

You can

[worldly cypress]

so there's pvp possibly...

[fickle saffron]

Yes

[worldly cypress]

is keepinventory on?

[fickle saffron]

Dunno, prob not

[worldly cypress]

im gonna ask random about that

[plucky flare]

We have commands now

[plucky flare]

It’s not on

Why would keep inventory need to be on? Your bases are literally mobile

[worldly cypress]

pvp

[lavish meteor]

TNT?

My pal you aren’t thinking big enough

Crystals

[brittle needle]

ONLY?

BRO A WHOLE HOUR

i guess when u have such a massive ship yea

but like

wtf are the others meant to do

they do bip bap and have to wait for 59 minutes?

[worldly cypress]

yes

[plucky flare]

It’s a max of an hour

[worldly cypress]

.

[plucky flare]

It’s basically just “until everyone is ready to go

[plucky flare]

You respawn on your ship

You re equip yourself with stuff stored on your ship

[worldly cypress]

ok fine

[plucky flare]

Remember this battle is supposed to feel like a “”survival”” dogfight

No creative storage or anything

[worldly cypress]

ok

[plucky flare]

So you’re meant to stock up

Plus

If someone boards you

And dies

You get their shit

[hasty kestrel]

can't wait to aquire someones controller

and

...

unless someone has a firework crossbow

[dusty lotus]

is elytra and armor allowed?

[plucky flare]

No elytra, iron armor max

I should include that in the rules…

[hasty kestrel]

it was before you mentioned it

[dusty lotus]

shit

[hasty kestrel]

ya

there goes half the servers plan

[dusty lotus]

we could have had a nice session of bullshit unfun boarding tactics

[plucky flare]

Wdym

[hasty kestrel]

could've been interesting

[plucky flare]

Elytra we’re not allowed

At all

That would defeat the point of a dogfight

[dusty lotus]

actually

[plucky flare]

You’d just ditch your ship and fly over

[dusty lotus]

doesn’t that make blaring pretty much useless anyway

[hasty kestrel]

turrets also defeat the point of a dogfight

[plucky flare]

No

What

[worldly cypress]

does that include iron as max tools?????

[dusty lotus]

since you’re essentially killing yourself to have a chance to destroy a single ship

[plucky flare]

How else do you dogfight

Ram people?

[dusty lotus]

yell insults

[plucky flare]

This isn’t kamikaze

[dusty lotus]

you added the voice mod right?

[hasty kestrel]

I mean like turrets manned by crewmembers

i mean nevermind

[plucky flare]

Yes so you can’t gigadrill into someone’s ship with an efficiency X netherite pickaxe

[hasty kestrel]

with vc mod, that would be great

[plucky flare]

I know someone will try

[plucky flare]

We have the vc mod

[brittle needle]

YES PLS my god

[plucky flare]

And walkie talkies

It’s in the rules

[hasty kestrel]

just bring a beacon with you

[scarlet shard]

hey, so afterblazers use 10 buckets per tick, right?

[plucky flare]

You have to use ingame vc or text chat

[hasty kestrel]

i know

[plucky flare]

What

[hasty kestrel]

that's why

[plucky flare]

No

[brittle needle]

put everything in it that needs to be there

is block breaking and placing gonna be enabled?

[dusty lotus]

i thought mining was gonna be turned off during the fight?

[plucky flare]

10 millibuckets

[scarlet shard]

ah, got it

[plucky flare]

You kinda have to be able to break blocks

[scarlet shard]

that's a much better number lmao

[plucky flare]

To

Fix your own ship

[plucky flare]

Yes

[hasty kestrel]

midair ship repair lesgo

[plucky flare]

since I’m gonna get fluid tubes working before cogfight

[dusty lotus]

does touching the water as a player kill you

[plucky flare]

It’ll be midair refueling too

[plucky flare]

No

[fickle saffron]

No elytra?

[plucky flare]

But it does erase your ship

[gray sonnet]

why is gps returning nan

[hasty kestrel]

what about beds on ships?

[plucky flare]

No elytra

[pseudo wharf]

Oh so max is iron

[plucky flare]

Allowed

[brittle needle]

what about enchantments and food and tools?

[hasty kestrel]

epic

respawn anchors in missiles would be interesting btw

[plucky flare]

Vanilla level enchants are fine i think just no command only enchants

Food is obv allowed

With the exception of gapples

[hasty kestrel]

golden too?

[brittle needle]

lets go unlimited egaps

[plucky flare]

Eh actually

Nah idc

Gapples ae fine

[brittle needle]

what about tools

[plucky flare]

It’s not really melee pvp focused anyways

[brittle needle]

can we go eff 5 netherite pick?

[hasty kestrel]

command potions?

[plucky flare]

Scroll up

[brittle needle]

well iron only could mean armor

so its tools too?

[plucky flare]

As per the rules everything you use must be obtainable in survival without exploits or glitches

[dusty lotus]

why’s that? It’s not like you can rescue a player in the water without getting your ship wet too

[hasty kestrel]

true

[plucky flare]

true…

Alright then I’ll have it just

Nuke people

[hasty kestrel]

ladders placed on ladders won't be allowed

[hasty kestrel]

you can

there's one way to jump out of the water without elytra

hmmm

[finite nexus]

Damn it my plans

[plucky flare]

You can gigadrill into someone’s ship with a drill ship though

[dusty lotus]

can you do it consistently and have it be effective enough, that whatever ship catches the player isn’t too close to the water?

[plucky flare]

No rules against what you can build on ships other than no tnt spam or dispenser spinners from create

[hasty kestrel]

yes

[brittle needle]

does everyone die if it starts raining cus its water?

xd

[finite nexus]

Ok but what about wrenches

[gray sonnet]

bruh

[plucky flare]

Wrenches can’t remove all block type

[gray sonnet]

why is my gps constantly changing when i am sitting still

[worldly cypress]

the autocannons waiting:

[finite nexus]

So allowed?

[dusty lotus]

wait are pearls allowed

[finite nexus]

Yay or nay on wrenches

[dusty lotus]

that seems like an easy fix

[gray sonnet]

gps channel time

[dusty lotus]

remind me why you need a gps in the first place?

[plucky flare]

Pearls are allowed but last I checked pearling to a vs ship can sometimes send you through it

Down to the briney deep

[gray sonnet]

vroom

[scarlet shard]

hey, are sails the only things that work for propellor bearings?

[dusty lotus]

wool should too

[scarlet shard]

aight thanks

[brittle needle]

are withers allowed?

or chunk banning?

xd

[worldly cypress]

ban ban ban

[brittle needle]

theyre super unreliable guys

trust me

[hasty kestrel]

don't ask that

why are people asking so many questions if something is allowed instead of just doing it

we're gonna have so many rules by the time the event starts

[fickle saffron]

because the loophole rule

so if you break it

u die

irl