#Cogfight
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I need to find a team
bro pinged nulltoast
lol
Not quite the right person
bro forored
bruh
putting clockwork stuff on a mechanical bearing crashes the game
i bet my future clcokwork downloads that the cogfight server gonna crash
if you send a turtle to go mine resources, and it touches the ground, does it count as your ship touching the ground?
ok well then again
it might just be water
mf gonna send his turtle to mine coal and bring it back to fuel his plane 😭
fr fr
Idk if I’m stupid or what but I keep pumping strawberry frosting into the back of the combustion engine and it’s not turning on
is it vibrating rapidly
It was glitched I had to leave the game 💀
Crank it
So y'all are probably already doing this, but having different banners/blocks on our ships to show what teams we're on sounds like it would be awesome
A question, if you team is less than four players, would you still have 8 lives total, or is it heavily skewed towards full teams?
yeh
you either have four players and eight planes, or you have a smaller team and therfore 2 less for each non existent member
that... seems kind of unfair and screws people who cant recruit 4 people
do we get time to setup
how?
each player brings two planes
because then your team gets out faster
only 6 planes to kill an entire team rather than 8
it only matters in the first round though
where it is every TEAM for themselves
Are nethersteel cannon barrels allowed in CogFight?
what the fuck
what about it?
YES
very
bro that shit is fast
faster than my bigass autoloader
i'm so confused
this is with stock cbc?
nightly
i need to brush up on cbc 😭
Steel is allowed, right? (It just does not have a recipe I believe)
#1101571779870339142 message
Yes
Yeah
that is actually illegal
are you not using a launcher?
I would also like to know how they're doing that, cause my CBC knowledge is clashing hard with what I'm seeing
i cant
curse forge is not supported on linux
at least for minecraft
i believe they have world of war craft
but i dont play that
dms? (dont want to give away trade secets, yknow
You are using a Creative Motor, the real one in action would be a lot bigger and easier to hit so we are slightly less terrified
I have mine like 90% of the way there but I have no clue how they're removing the cartridges after firing
ohh, are you referring to like the minecraft launcher, because yes, I do own minecraft
no
No like a third party Launcher that makes it easier to install loaders and packs using the CurseForge format
I meant what you responded to
I.. the last time I made a proper big cannon was when you had to have all your stuff place out via brass hands, my mind is melted
heh
Such as ATlauncher (What i use), Curseforge, Or MuiltiMC/Prism
@lime iron can you tell me the last bit
I have it firing once but then it just stops
I can't get the last cartridge out
wait no
my role
heh
@tulip lava has 2016 karma ❤️. Next role upgrade after 2984 more karma
xd
I'll give you a little trade secret of mine if you tell me
otherwise it may be over for you
do i need to like mess around with that file or something to use the modpack with ATlauncher? or does it just work out of the box?
No it works they already did all that for you. but you can edit it if you like, all you have to do (On CurseForge) is click create new instance, then click import, then select file and it will be done and ready to play
k random
gimme the trade secret
I dmed you the technique
@tulip lava I sent you the secret
nope, without changing the footprint I made it run on a single combustion engine
Wrong person
XD
bro combustion engine makes 500k su 💀
This isn't even the first time it's happened
is 12 afterburners a bit much
yes
how many after burners is good
like 2 💀
too many
idk why you'd need that many
well
let's see the plane actually
maybe 4 is too little, idk
Oh my god this guy is gonna invent time travel
ok
Hey, any of y'all using the clockwork seat, and if so, how??
I wanna use it but my brain is too smooth to understand
how many blocks
only makes sense for massive ships
and even then its kinda pointless
What does it do exactly? Change rotation speed for some things?
no
it basically combines the remote control with a gearbox sorta
has 1 shaft input and 4 shaft outputs
1 on the bottom
I use like 8 on average
and 4 on the sides
i am using 12 for this competition
how fast is that
Yeah I don’t have enough lmao
There is like a million variables to account for
straberry fuel
decently heavy plane
no i dont wanna loose my jet again
Save schem
Maybe sit inside it?
Like a normal person?
still lost it last time
its already been physcisced
Use the commands as they are intended?
what commands
That means nothing
Use schematic and quill
It works
it hit a wall and refused to do anything
Yeah
Do f3+B
Build scaffolding out to opposite corners of the red box
Save schem with those points
whats that
Keyboard inputs
Yeah
i think my jet a bit big
You’ll find a very useful yellow box in the center of your ship
That’s center of mass
Oh in that case
If you look at it from the front it should and would be dead center
If you try to fly straight forward hands off the controls and see whether you start pitching up or down, you’ll be able to tell whether you’re nose heavy or ass heavy
ok
Being sick is the worst
WHAT
for some reason
you cant combine mech crafters
when they are on ships
like merge them so that they have one collective input
that seems to be impossible
Gg
that is freaking annoying
Guys, Is it possible to use an auto cannon with a seat on it on a plane while being able to aim properly
this is impossible on a ship for some reason
you can literally just use the cannon
swith to your controller
and use it
Yea but what if I wanna have someone on the back of the Plane shooting at planes behind me
then have another turret
then have another person, on that turret
Are people allowed to put dispensers on propeller bearings?. i thought i saw it somewhere that you can't but i double checked the rules and i can't find where it says that
No spinning dispensers on create contraptions, including propellers
Also why do they shoot without a redstone signal?
Cuz create
so is there a size limit?
I didn’t see anywhere in the rules that I can’t make a plane that’s 1000 by 1000 blocks big
no size limit already a bunch of megaships out there
from like 4 different modem positions
no, for some reason one computer, is insufficient
Ight who’s ready for war of the worlds. Who is tryna help me build a trypod ship
Wow I went more than 2 hours without getting pinged
but eh radar is also entirely useless with minimap
except for one thing
which i will not disclose
really stupid question - is the solver allowed in cogfight?
hmmmm good one....
idk
yes
that's why they were added
potato wanted them
oh boi
im boutta commit ace combat
what do solvers do
death laser
feed it frosting and rotation
but have surprisingly low stress impact
alr
a lot of frosting
just need a shit ton of frosting
2 buckets/s
do i have to update clockwork and vs2 after downloading the pinned pack?
also does it explode
yes
and if it does, how long can it be turned on
ok
yes
lmao
btw im downloading the pack cuz i wanna check it out
there is no way im gonna participate in this im really bad at making mechs and thigns
just play with the pack, chill out in discord, and try make some planes
alr
you only need anything flying to even participate anyway
oh
oh wait
i dont even know how to make a working plane
i only know i can use balloons
airships are fine
just make a plane from real life
anything that can fly
uh sure i can try but it'll look bad since im not a good builder
Center of mass near back landing gear for easy takeoff
center of mass as a heavy object?
alr
ty
btw which box is the center of mass (sorry for the questions im really new to this only started using this since first nightly and im not that good with create in general)
the small one in the middle
i think yes
make a propellor facing upwards
spin it
and preferrably, propellor above the mentioned COM so you dont spin
alr
ty
yo
why is my right click registering like
two times
btw is this good @minor kelp
use sails instead of wood for the propeller
use sails
or it cant fly
i put sails on it
sails for propellers, wings are for well, planes, generating lift, and flaps are useful for the flao bearing
that is the hard part
not anymore
unless you wanna do a
with physics bearings
you can do the flap stuff
does anyone know if we're supposed to be using the latest version of clockwork, or the one that comes with the modpack in pins?
yeah
and make actually tilting props
null said update cw and vs2
the fight will be on whatever the latest versions are
so just keep em updated
and that at the time of cogfight, the newest versions will be used
what
to control individual propeller tilt at each point in rotation
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Helicopters are the true flying machines. They can take off and land without the need for a runway. They can hover in the air. They can maneuver in any direction in a 3...
the way helicopters fly in real life, is to tilt the propellers in different directions at points in their rotations, so that to go forwards the propellers are neutrally tilted when pointed at the front of the plane, horixontaly when to the right... abd so on
they are very complicated
imagine
a mechanism that makes it so that
for each individual blade
when it reaches the left half, it's tilted by a lot, and when it reaches the right half, it's tilted by a little
wait
yup
since the blades on the left will always be tilted more that way
angle lock
there will be more thrust on that half
and it changes where and how much it turns based on which direction you want to go
Yeah, it is theoreticly possiblr
i mean it would make your prop positively massive but go ahead
yeah
but you need to change it as fast as the prop is spinning
causing the entire assembly to tilt
okay im actually getting really confused
it tilts as it turns
im just gonna do a plane
so while it is spinning, each propeller blade is tilted a different amount
planes are easier
i dont know lua neither even know how to import a script into cc
okay so
in a propeller
the more the blades are tilted, the more force it has (to an extent ofc)
a helicopter makes it so that
not only is each individual blade of the rotor able to turn at different angles
but that they can do it consistently and very, very quickly in coordination with one another
how did me a noob trying to make a helicopter start a whole conversation about how a helicopter works and that
where can I get VS beta 12? The latest clockwork says it needs it, but I don't see it on curseforge
You can download the Clockwork Pre-Alpha from here:
https://discord.com/channels/244934352092397568/1100497495450210384.
Remember that Clockwork requires the latest version of Kotlin, which can be separately downloaded from the Kotlin website, and Valkyrien Skies 2, which can usually be found in the nightlies channel. If you can't find the download for VS2 or any of the addons, links to them can be found in their respective channels.
Also note that Clockwork is currently exclusively for Minecraft 1.18.2, and is available on both Forge and Fabric.
because you're trying to make a helicopter smh
look either you do allat or
you use little tiny seperate propellers to do pitch and roll
yes but this is really complicated what you guys are talking about (atleast for me)
nvm, I found it. sorry
could you make those little with mini ship creator
or wait
does it only assemble one block
individually
uh
i just tried something with mini ship creator and
it completely broke
Time for the maiden flight of the Obviously Horizontal Missing Yaw Great Awesome War Destroyer
or the O.H.M.Y.G.A.W.D
do f3+b
look for the yellow square
make sure that the center of that square is where it should be
alr
ty
last question (i think) do i have to make flap bearings like move in different ways
for example one to the right and the other to the left by a redstone signal jsut one
well
both
if you make them around the back or front and have them move the same way, they'll be pitch controls
if you make them around the middle and have them move different ways, they'll be roll controls
oh i see
so is pitch basically
like
moving side to side without rolling
or height
pitch is height
alr
why?
yaw doesn't actually turn you much in the long term
and is only really good for trying to stay up while rolling if your angle was too much or trying to slow down when landing
i see
I just accidently shot a the cannon on the OHMYGAWD, and it went THROUGH the flap on my other plane that happened to be there
it went through that block
so uh
im using 4 links for each side for the flap bearings
one for rolling and that
and the other one for height
like ye
i just dont know about placement
cuz i think it might break it
generally have two sets of flap bearings, so 4 total two on each side, and control each seperately
make another set of flap bearings further back
increase the size of your propeller
i will do that eventually but
about the other set of flap bearings
does it have to specifically be on one side
or
look
this is the whole plane
rn
NO
no
n o
my eyes
make another SET of flap bearings, so it will have two gearboxes and four bearings
and have only one link on each side of each bearing
a set of flaps for pitch, and a set of flaps for roll
i dont really understand what you're saying but ill try to
so a wing, and then my pitch, which is one flap bearing, and then another flap bearing connected to the one I am using for roll
ohhh
i think i understand now
so basically
uh
2 on the back
and 2 on the front?
really it should be two in middle two in the back
propeller on front
and wing right in front of the middle set
wdym wing right in front of middle set
so it goes propeller then big ol wing then first flap bearing then second flap bearing
yup
you got it
now build flaps out from each flap bearing and glue them
and then put a bunch of wings in a wing shape in front of the middle part
straight line ones are the flaps
and the other ones are wings
is that part good
well, you have it flipped
oh
the propeller should be the front of the plane
It can be in the back, but that’s a little less stable
boats have propellers at the back, planes have propellers at the front
much I would say
alr
I plan to make a missile with a back prop
nice
question: how the hell are we excepted to.... use the laser when its pointing upwards...
idk
angling it down with mech bearing doesnt work, cause shafts dont works with that
vs contraption still bugs and disallow in-flight refueling
ugh
any side
just feed it
alr
phys bearings
and have it have its own self contained fuel source
bruh
eh
i can do that... its just a pain
well in the good side it doesnt strain engine anymore
Im scared of what meta will arise
lasermeta
and you need to add a clutch and motor to the prop
2 is reasomabele
how so
it thinks i assembled a contraption
now its frozen and i cant place anything on it
neither break anything on it
nvm
i fixed it
but its so glitchy
it starts completely spamming something
mainly the flap bearings
let me send a vid
of the thing
is there an easy way to tell which blocks have weight values and what they are?
how do i assign the flap bearings on the back?
like
what signal do i give them
links on the back
back flaps should control "pitch"
pitch is up and down
yes
but im talking about like
the signal
does it have to be like
2 same signals with same frequencies on the same side
oh i see
so uhm
i just tried to fly the plane
only problem i have is uh
only one flap is moving
You might need to reglue your flaps
ye
and uh
now wood blocks move too
okay now it works
yay
working plane
tysm to you guys for helping
anyways imma go sleep
its 12 am
gn
I was just thinking about how I’d do the vector math after seeing this in my notifs
For like leading the target a lil to compensate for bearings maybe being slow
Yeah
also i do have a radar system working
without vc
Fun
it can find the target's position relative to the radar's
not the actual coordinates though
but yea it probably wont be effective as most people use mechanical
question: how do i stop the frosting from bugging out
lmao
ppl in this server foaming at the mouth to shoot at planes and other things while in planes and other things
i am included
but i also really like losing in cases like this
bc it means i can study how the other person bodied me
yknow yknow look over the footage or just remember
I cant attend cogfight :(
now im debating whether or not i should spill the beans on my ship
i bet there isnt anyone doing simillar
I mean I feel like everything coming out in the open for the first cogfight initially can only lead to a much more interesting second (part of the reason I’m wanting to watch at least if even if I’m not participating this time)
Let’s see the initial wins and losses and gauge the atmosphere
im thinking on letting another team use the ship so i can see how it goes
We should have a ship convention for everyone too look at and buy planes from eachother
Lmao
the IKS (imperial kaladesh shipyards) would be a large bulk supplier of cheap mass producible ships
All compatible with the same carrier refueling/rearming stations (for continuity)
yes
or maybe... we have proprietary stuff like a certain technology company shaped like a fruit....
buy this fueling adapter for 300 bucks
but yes state run kaladesh ships are standardised
is the solver gonna be allowed in this event seriously?
maybe
i mean 4 seconds for 1 tank
youre gonna need some aim
also if you have longer run time bigger ship easier target to kill
The pipe organ
do the pumps and fluid pipes that go into the ballooner count as sealing the balloon
i dont think so
place ballooner 1 below balloon with the hole in the balloon then you have space for pipes and pumps
like this then a motor below balloner aswell?
yes
k thanks
You’ll need extra space between the tank and the ballooner for pipes to go into the engine though
are we sure the server is going to be able to handle all the pyhsics objects in cogfight
he better have a super computer then ig
is this alr?
Yes
depends on how big it is
and how much speed is the input
the balloon is quite large and ive got 256 input
Is it more then 4096 blocks inside
how can i tell?
yea definelty
ive done some calculations and the full volume of the balloon is roughly 40k blocks
You need to split it into sections with each balloon section having less then 4096 blocks and one ballooner
oh shi ok
ive done that now do i need to wait or add anything else, i dont have any props yet do i need them to float?
Now pump frosting into side and rotation from bottom
done that aswell
bruh why does the laser have 19 block range
thats..... not far
bruh the laser cant even go outside my plane's area
oh he forgot a zero
understandable have a good day
I’m assuming putting nethersteel cannons on a ship functioning as cannons and not as armor is legal?
yea
how are you going to make cannons then
also laser do destroy nethersteel
making them entirely destructible now
Wdym How am i gonna make cannons?
I have a cannon in my ship and I eventually want to upgrade it
If it serves will in cogfight
i think nethersteel cannons are allowed
(Probably won’t)
just not nethersteel armor
Yeah exactly
What if I make my ship out of functional cannons
Great idea potato, now we don’t have medium sized ships with deathlazers 😁
We'll just have medium sized ships with regular lazers
there is no texture yet
oh ok
k
Add a texture yourself
Cogfight hasn't started yet
no but like will it be
oh no
thats cap
I can jam every channel
i also jam every channel
Yeah no communications are getting through lol
My systems dont require it
yea i make mine wired anyway
Imagine plugging in an emp to someone's wired systems
time to enact the araam project
?
okay now block all redstone link signals too
Nah there are alot of channels
really?

Just deppends on what signals you target
not to everyone it seems
"jarvis, scan that man's redstone links"
- turns to comment highlighter
“Jarvis, make a list of common signals”
Like all potion's are one channel
phew
And enchantment books
good to know i'm safe
jarvis, randomize a channel
Jarvis pick random channels
Just target like bearing chanels and stuff
copper and its oxidation isnt
I thought i could get around signal jammers with name tags but that doesn't count as different channels if there named
jarvis, analyze enemy shown footage for channels to jam
So all my stuff is wired including redstone
real gamers use the command chair 
Why wouldn't you?
- rotation is often inconvenient as an output compared to redstone
One system on my computer isnt wired and it makes the entire ship flyable
- it only has 4 default outputs, you can do funky stressometre comparator stuff to get more
- there is a limit to how many different inputs combos you can program in, so you cant have three outputs activate at the same time, unlike redstone linked controllers
also no shift button but thats minor
How does it link then
likely literal buttons or command seat i guess
Wireless
Not my own lol
OHHHHH
genius
well
i can find empty channels to jam
Il jam every single channel
`> jam
look at what i done
introducing electronic warfare into here
What you have done?
I am above using a channel
slowly introducing electronic jamming to the point everyone has it
and everyone paranoid
except for us analogs
yes
Wait a second
precisely
Yk what
Still possible
No i wont jam
You have only joined it i begged for cc
you did beg for it...
eh maybe its you
Congrats if your right

That’d be the great equalizer for CC dog fighting come to think of it . Can’t rely too heavily on it or you run the serious risk of falling out of the sky but at the same time skies the limit throwing code into the mix
Oops /j 🤐
Nah but Fr if y’all were thinking of jamming
Y’all oughtta thought of that
Otherwise [REDACTED]
Shits pants
Runs off crying
Slash j
Yeah if it erased your code that’d be a bit far but sending it haywire or jamming the signal however
jokes on you he did that own his own
Weird question: would boarding be allowed?
lmao
Thought we were alowed to land on carriers for refueling
Thats not boarding
it was a joke
you can do everything that's not specified in the rules
so boarding other ships, ally or not, is allowed
Source: trust me bro
The rules of elimination are still a little confusing, it sounds like if you are in a plane when it touches water that counts as a death, and afaik it is only that that counts. If this is wrong, please tell me
Player deaths are only important after their team has no vehiciles
If it touches the water its ded
If it leaves the arena, its ded
will there be a clear barrier to show the edge of the arena?
World border
aight good
8 vehicles per team right? unless there are less than 4 people in it
2 vehiciles per player, and with a max of four players you get 8 vehiciles
exactly ok
yeah not that people with building teams of 16 people get unlimited planes
Correct
btw heisenberg, help me figure out my second plane, I'm having trouble figuring out what to do
kinda wanna download distant horizons but idk if that will help with seeing a shit
yeah gimme 2 sec
essential again?
sure
It breaks vs2
Like hella bad
I might do a new world though, that one is getting kinda laggy
yeah
oh
that sucks
well, up goes my render distance
down goes my fps
huh? but I saw someone using it in showcase?
Sometimes it works
Sometimes it says “kill yourself”
ah, aight
hopefully that gets fixed, it looks amazing with it
being able to actually see the rest of the world while up high changes things
Why
You cant see ships
The world is gonna be an ocean
Like the ocean preset
There is nothing to see
nah, I meant in like regular servers
you're right, it would suck if the world was just oceans lmao
you would know if you're upside down or not though
i'm on btw
aight, lemme make a world rq
hopefully i have them schematic perms
or whatever the problem was yesterday
it's weird cause schematics made by you worked for me
yeah, wonder what's up with that
You can already tell
Horizon
Just get better
Yes
Loopholes?
There are alot
If you try and exploit loopholes you are banned
Actually it is in the rules
Learn to read
The last paragraph, the no loopholes rule
Which is a blanket rule
🤓
Classic Axol L
Pack comes with minimap
Which tells u y coord
As for keeping track of your rotation
F3 + B if you wanna be a nerd
Actually that rule itself has a loophole which allows me to exploit loopholes
Actually thats not how this works dumbass and semantics wont help you not get banned for being a shitass
Loophole
Which uno reverses
Bcuz the no loopholes allowed rule
So no you cant 🤓
Ngl ender dragons would probably get destroyed regardless
But they would still be annoying
Nah I’m just waiting for us all to think there’s one person left
What if i build a chunkban on your airship, thats survival obtainable 🤓
Then like
The fuckinf sun starts getting closer
You dont know where my airship is
Sounds like a eggman plot
And you dont know where the rules are 💀
Null’s team starts a monologue about how contingency 0 was just a prototype
Eggman lore
Everyone realizes they only counted 7 downed planes for them
if I get the OHMYGAWD working you will be scared
althought the OHMYGAWD has wuite a few issues currently
You cant just stay on the pad
The pad?
Takeoff point
Are we all taking off same place?
If I get the ta bocdad fao, bkut sobsoth working my team will be the first to die but it will be funny
Btw that name is an abbreviation
so is mine
but my abbreviation is better
Or rather if my friend does
Ok, yours arent safe from me either
Also unlike your dorky ship ours has a manual mode
So we arent dependent on cc to live
I’m currently working on the pant-hit broiler 34K
So does ours?
Sure lad
Its just very hard to keep stable
Imagine y’all have time to make an operation manual
And redact a bunch of the shit in it
Like you need hours of practice to keep mine stable manually
“Press space after hitting the override to activate the last resort. The last resort is an efficiency-independent ################”
lmao thank god I switched teams
I made a craft like this once in sm
Me and pals modded survival
I made a V-22 like thing
I could fucking go places with that thing
And could make it do whatever I wanted it to
But like out of 4 friends
Only one of em was able to fly it to go close to where they wanted without complaining about the handling
Because apparently it was unstable as shit
My friend’s aerial craft was far faster
Because it was a seat with a massive rotor on the bottom
“It won’t take me to where I want to go, it’ll take me to where I need to”
Super unstable crafts that you can fly are a good method of anti theft and tampering
Granted it also means you can’t have a pal come pick you up or give it to someone else without having it crash in like a minute but
Fun
In any case
The big craft I build for this is gonna be a tiltrotor
And my plan will just be running like a bitch in erratic directions
From where
Does axol have anyone else on their team?
Does anyone know what will happen on the first day of cogfight?. will we be able to port our builds from our worlds over? or will we have to build them from scratch? is litematica allowed?
haha mister nullharp
i know what youre up to
lmao
Do you tho, cuz i feel like u dont
Schematic, and yes u port ur builds
I got the OHMYGAWD working! kind of
Who knows, maybe il be the last thing you see 😄
victory will be the last thing i see
doubt is the greatest killer of success
ye, because you will see death before it 🤓
I feel like this will end with mutual destruction
cope
nullharp shut up
doesnt make any sense haha
nullharp you can go take an egg to the ass
nullharp thinks he got game 😂
watch out.
i imagine nullharp with his high speed jet destroying everyone that has lasers and cannons
whose
your
😎 🐰
hoew do u get karma here?
im not so weak minded as to be affected by your words, i let a discord users words get to me once, but never again
showcase posts
go step on snails
accurate observation
were pals
were on the same team even
right null?
yea
no
yes
