#Cogfight
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See the issue is itโs still an incomplete list not sure if the download broke somehow or what
Would that be considered complaining
Thats all the mods
Except for the overides
Which are in the Zip
People keep insisting cannons are in this but Iโm not seeing it
Alright then that may explain literally everything
Wonder if the curse forge launcher one would have worked in that case
This is the cf pack
๐
Its always been one
Alright so before you were recommending a different options not saying the Normal one was the issue
The what
The normal curse forge launcher
You said I should use beta curse forge from the context of the conversation it sounded like you were telling me the normal one wouldnโt work and that only the Beta without overworlf or Prism would work
Yeah seeing that now
Downsides of working things out via Remote Desktop lol
the incomplete mod list in the launcher was confusing me
I beg but dont complain
if you say so
how often you guys think the event should be held ? if i could suggest id say a monthly to bimonthly thing could be fun
y'all
i have this
really bad problem
called
after moving my plane from forge to fabric and working on it a bit
the frosting fuel doesn't drain like at all
it will be monthly
oh ye potato never fixed that ig
thats a fabric L
beautiful id like to say this even is shaping up awesomely cant wait to participate in june
hats off to Random
Why not weekly plss
now thats ALOT
one can hope, i think potato was not aware of it b4 because Fabric L but ive informed them directly
it was already voted on for monthly
feel like that would be hard to manage
Idk month just seems a little long
So 1st of june?
it would be
there is a lot of planning, as can be seen by it being pushed back, into planning an event like this
there is many considerations, many choices, and many things that must occur for this to not be a mess
but the fact yall are willing to do an open entry reoccurring tournament like this is awesome it opens up a whole new thing for create fans to if nothing else watch and geek out over
matter of fact id intended on making my own version when another similar mod dropped XD
before i heard about clockwork at all aswell so im glad im not the only one thinking about these things like this
Until you come around someone like me and i destroy it all
oh yeah my team mate needs a bit of clarification btw : what does indestructible mean
and then you get banned from any future events ๐
non destroyable from stuff like cbc cannons or tnt
I won't break any rules?
thank you
Don't be the reason new rules are made ๐
circumventing the rules causes new rules to be made
I would not put it past Potato to ban you for being the cause of new rules to be made
or at least bar you from specific events, or a certain amount of events after
Bruh
just.... becareful ight your stepping into the risky zone
dunno just becareful
im not the judge
This is not a democracy and power is not split, Potato and Random are the judge, executioner, and legislator all in one
they can do whatever, because they gave themselves this power
they are the founder afterall
I can easily make it very difficult for you guys if you ban me
Is that a threat?
Nah
its almost like you want to be banned before you even get to take off
fine by me, one less competitor
lol
... what do you mean
I am not as innocent as i look
bro is gonna ddos the serever ๐
..
... jk, that would never work because you are way too pathetic to take down modern server infrastructure
We will see about that
At the rate you are going, not too sure about that one
uhhhh please dont
There is more than one
You watch yourself Axol, you don't have as much power as you think you do ๐
uhhh maybe jam the server's ip behind cloudflare or something as a way to mitigate ddos
incase that threat as a real one
idk im not good at networking
i assume Bisect has ddos protection built in
What If i just took down cloudflare too?
bro thinks hes part of the Anonyms hacker group ๐
please don't do that
you have to realize by now its just axol talking out their ass for the 690000th time
its litterally what they are known for
ik you can't hack cloudflare it was a joke
just chilllllll
if you can hack cloudflare your probably anonymous
eh like literally almost impossible
axol go work on your ship or something, nobody cares about your empty threats
i don't think anyone is capable of hacking cloudflare
pls just chill
Man, this whole conversation hurts to read, trying to be intimidating over text just comes across as so goofy
dont know
especially out of the mouth of a clown like Axol
bruh imagine threatening a minecraft discord
The friggin smileys you send are kinda hilarious too lmao
thats the point
because im actually trying to be funny, im not just naturally worth laughing at.
@fickle saffron
which mod
url saysproject
this
It's honestly kinda crazy how dramatic Minecraft servers can get, consistently they're the ones I find the most drama in
it doesnt exist
is that Essential?
guess it got merked
ig try the beta site
odd
it appears for me
they do have their own site aswell
ig it's cause you put the wrong link. what is project 543559 anyways
its auto generated
ig something happened to the page
bruh
as ive been trying to say, its exported via Curseforge launcher, i did not actually make any of those files, it just made it off the pack i made
maybe the page url changed between when i exported it and now
does essential mod break the rules about communication in cogfight?
it says it has an in game messenger
it also kinda breaks vs2 sometimes, id reccomend removing it b4 the event starts so you can get the best performance
also ye no you cant use the chat from it
for the event
what if someone does
ok
its magic
Lmao
remove essential mod?
only if you want, but id reccomend doing so b4 the event starts so you can get the best vs2 performance
its just a personal recomendation
Also, I feel like anyone able to use the chat and fly at the same time might deserve it
ok. should i do that for any other mods too?
i mean ig technically speaking Sodium Extras is incompat but ive yet to identify specifically what it breaks
but it also gives extra performance
so its like a win / loss type situation
not that im aware of
Will cogfight have clockwork 1.3?
yes
Hey btw, if we're gonna be flying over just water, how will we be taking off?
are mechanical bearings still allowed?
yes? just not with a spinning dispenser on it
prob landing strip that gets removed or smthin
Aight
oh okay. I heard they were banned before, why was it banned in the first place?
because its disgustingly unbalanced
Oh whoops replied wrong
oh yeah no they are fine
oh okay
its just with dispensers
i see
i got concerned cause i saw this
@fickle saffron why doesnt your pack have this?
should i use it?
but should i
its client side
its up to you
you could always add it, see if you want it, and then just keep or remove it after
oh brain forgor
ok do you tho?
no
ok
?
its 1 am for me so i thought you said "do i use it" and not "do you use it" for a second
because fabric handles it in a brain damaged way
๐
what's a dependency again?
something a mod needs to work
like for example, clockwork NEEDS vs2 and create to work
*casually boots 172 forge mod pack im mid developing
pretty small pack
back in my day, 300 mods was a small modpack
lol yeah and this is even standing on some one elses shoulders
first time ive added to some one elses mod pack
biggest ive gotten from scratch is 142
what kind of mods gets you to 172....
good mods
ok fair ig
yes
the dependancies add up before ya know it tbh but this pack im building off of here started out with about 142 itself
hi
Will there be like a grace time for people to fly away after the battle starts?
So people donโt immediately shoot eachother or bomb the airfield while people are still on it
Cause I assume there will be some airfield just next to the arena for everyone to setup their planes
dont worry about setting up your plane im sure they will have that managed
just worry about making your plane now
Nah he the original one. His name has nothing to do with the random here
hes the superior random
No, heโs the upgrade 
Will we have creative to set up plane, this probably obvious but I'm dumb
is the competition will be on teh latest clockwork version ?
@fickle saffron you by any chance already know if weโre gonna be able to use /clone?
welp
my physics thread is frozen
even tried restart the server
nothing is functional on the plane besides restone links
doing this
unfreezes it
damm
the ball
help some1
use the gravitron
do Portable storage interfaces work on physics contraptions
not to physics-ground, but within the contraption they should work normally
so contraption-physics object
ok thx
We do a small amount of monopolizing engineers
monopole is no good
Murica lore
sad
I probably won't participate in cogfight but I am using the mod pack to develop an aircraft carrier
E
will planes in reserve be able to sit on a runway or something or do they have to be on a carrier
the way i imagined it, every team has a lil hangar that leads into the arena
you respawn in your hangar
grab a plane
fly out and do stuff
Thatโs also how I saw it in mind
That would also make sabotaging less of a thing
will creative motors be allowed for starting engine
No

bro just gear ratio a hand crank down enough to start
i mean that too ye
ok so ik i said for the last like three days i was gonna make the EFBJ-003 but im fr fr doing it this time
and what will it imrpove
it will be a even bigger and more devestating bomber
bombers are useless
you are useless
yo ma-
before you say "but but how are you gonna hit planes" im not fucking stupid, im not gonna try and bomb planes, im going for those big ol lumbering machines known as airships
that no one is bringing to clockwork
everyone is too focused on making something to attack other planes
youd be suprised
i kean cogfight
there are some airship purist nutjobs around here
arent you making an airship?
you have the dame energy as him
i didnt say that?
guess that was someone else
only in the cc vote
axol
i meant other then axol
ah
[this message was redacted due to potatoes decision to remove cc if i say something]
Wait replay mod is included in the modpack? I thought it didn't work with clockwork?
it magically works now
dont question it
for some reason the physics thread actually is in sync with it now
?
i've asked this a few times and never get an answer ๐
Can i put footage of the event on YouTube?
ye i dont actually have an answer
youd have to ask potato or random
yeah
have you even thought about this or ๐
does straight up nobody know
I have asked this before
no its client side you dont need it
but it works with clockwork and ik some people wanted to record or were considering it
so i added it
in other news
WHATT THE FUCK DID I MAKE
HOW IS THIS SHIT SO FASTTTT
By the way has the weird issue with fabric servers tiny but constant rubberbanding of contraptions been fixed yet?
hey @plucky flare you're my last hope
was not even intentional
I have had some speed inconsistency issues with my plane
As though it had full power when I didnโt tell it to
Or somehow more or less power than I knew it was capable of
I accidentally made something very very very fast
Also what height are afterblazers usually great at for yโall?
25 blaze burners
what height?
what
Yea like
i usually use them above chunk loading dist
no specific altitude
What y coordinate do they kick in
just above where chunks load
its reverse falloff
Bro what do you expect
Mmmm I see like you canโt see the ground below you?
it keeps going up to a certain extent
yes
i can go faster
I see
if nothing has to load
Then I probably donโt have enough
it gets stronger the higher you go, to a certain amount until it just caps off
Yeah
It seems that two was not enough then
For like a small thing how many would you reccomend?
this actually explains so much bruh
how big is your "small thing"
two should be plenty
Just doing like testing before I lock in a design for a way larger vessel
That would be for shooting AP fuck-you rounds at big things
/j
Bc that seems very funny
It wasn't working so i kept increasing them but i forgot to power the combustion engine
For the pumps
So yeah it basically teleports
quick questions about faloff
propellers lose speed at higher altitude
and afterbalzers gain thrust at higher altitude
right
???
There are just less affected by altitude
hard cap
one of you is spreading misinformation 
anyways am i allowed to fill a certain chest or 2 before staryong my engine
using creative
with stuff
As long as its possible to do in survival
@tulip lava
yeah
thx
correct
that is 100 percent correct
potato calls it "reverse falloff" but they are really just cursed versions of expo decay and expo growth but capped
do you know roughly how much better it is at max vs. minimum
propellers get weaker and afterblazers get stronger
not off the top of my head no
but i do know if you use both you can kinda balance out the affects of each
and get an op plane
time to do some testing
Also
For how long?
I mean, you donโt have unlimited tank space
Unless you refuel at an aircraft carrier if someone in your team has that
destroy all aircraft carriers ๐ค
Or just make your plane have an extra amount of fule
more afterblazers = more tanks = more weight = more afterblazers 
Also quick question, are building blocks limited to clockwork, create, and vanilla? Or are there other added blocks we can use
just look at the modpack
modpack
just refer to the modpack
I have the mod pack but the rules said that some of the blocks didn't have weights yet and therefore we weren't allowed to use them
Good luck with that (Iโm assuming they have turrets and great armor)
Only indestructible blocks
Okay so deco sheet metals are fine
what if i get my plane approved and then use blockstate corruption to turn the whole thing into bedrock mid-flight 
no
(hes lying)
its not like your plane will go to the shadow realm because bedrock has zero weight or anything
nahhhh why would that happen
They aren't indestructible? And I'm not using the netherite one
Got it
Wait who said that?
Sheetmetals are allowed
Just not the netherite ones
(Except for the stairs)
(They are destructible for some reason)
โYou cannot use any blocks that do not have a weight and are 'indestructible', ie create deco's netherite sheet metal.โ
Everything in the definitive rules
And only those count
told you
now you have to make an actual plane and our plans are shot
he didnt say or
Accurate to the rules too, which I will strictly strictly follow from now on
Exactly
you planned to use nethersteel ๐
we had that plan very long ago
we even made a tiny indestructible plane that flies for 90.minutes
super light and fast
So ancient debris can be used, because it has weight. Sheetmetal can be used (except netherite) because it is destructible
and high mobility
nahhhh ancient debris is crazy
wait guys the modpack is fabric now?
it's been fabric
it has?
I switched to nethersteel blocks and unfinished cannons ends (as slabs) right after netherrite was nade illegal
But allowed!
Might make a raster armor pattern on some parts of my ship
wrong
If it manages
the only thing
that has
zero weight
is bedrock
modded blocks are 100
0 causes krunch to have a stroke
oh
- ๐ค
Just had a crazy idea
just make ancient debris plane
that has custom weight
If youโre plane is powerful enough to handle it
Also, if a bullet hits a block that is indestructible it wonโt damage any other blocks. So making a raster armor pattern will protect mostly everything at half the weight
Forget everything I just said
how would you even destroy a debris aircraft?
so you make a chess board of ancirnt debris
(Turtles are indestructible and the admins probably donโt know (unless your ship is made out of them then itโs a bit sus))
Exactly
how have you tested that
Make it heavier by sticking your plane to it
I tested alot of blocks trust me
Or make it run out of fuel
i will have to test that
I used proximity fuzed flak rounds
its kinda lame to make ancient debris plane
because its indestructible
It would be the ultimate chad move to just use ancient debris and ignore what everyone says about the weight
No thats just lame
no, the ultimate chad move is to use every banned block and get kicked out instantly 
Itโs kinda funny to make a netherite plane that weighs ppl down
ok Axol
I can just picture 3 hours in 2 debris blimps sitting around waiting for the other one to run out of fuel
Or a missile that is just chock full of netherite or has deployers full of such that just start weighing the fuck shit down of whatever it sticks to
Forget everything I just said /j
mine wont run out of fuel 
hol up
let him cook
Hah
I mean it does seem like a fun idea
And annoying as shit
Like oh no I have a hole here and one of my engines is out Iโll have to turn down power
Vs
I have a leech on my rear left and I can see my center of mass leaving this plane of existence as my mega ship becomes a mere pendulum
Question, is intentional signal interference allowed?
Yea
Just
Keep in mind some dude calculated it would take some million blocks to jam all the vanilla frequencies
welllll
Of links
it's really difficult with all the different block combos
I have ideas
As for cc do whatever
heh
As long as your plan doesnโt involve stream sniping
Heh
I am just encrypting like all my shit using code that is not mine
nah nah nah who let him cook ๐ญ
i'm not getting my plane off the ground am i
Yโall should pin any information for where footage of where cogfight will be put up afterwards
Like a live stream or like confirming itll be on randoms channel
cc is banned for cogfight, no?
wtf
no vc tho
so dont even ask
Only makes things more interesting
You wonโt have to worry about like
cheese what team u in
Someone having 50 micro drones all trying to bomb your ass
can everything indestructible please be banned
Unless they preprogram a routine of sorts
he fears the ancient debris
Trying to sort sumn out with some pals
im using anciwnt debris and made a very fast mobile plane
They are not very enthusiastic unfortunately
but thats so cheesy
oh god what have i done
i have it
thats for 1.20
ill use a little bit to armor spots on my b-25
not 1.18.2
also now my shaders aren't working ๐
Same
They havenโt been working at all
thats wierd
So many people are gonna be like โlinks are broken on the server !1!!!111!1!!1!!!โ after the fight lmao
also ye shaders forgor for me too
so i just removed iris
since they werent working anyway
and they were causing issues with cc monitors
I tried complimentary shaders and sildurs vibrant shades and they werenโt working sadge
Sadness
yeah I tried both they dont work
real
Cant an mf play in 45fps to make it look good
real
I am used to scrap mechanic from like four years ago on a gaming laptop
20fps runs through my veins
my amd gpu hates minecraft shaders
I have nvidia
like I don't need all 600fps on my computerโผ๏ธ I can take away about 550 of those frames and have shaders and it'll still be better than no shadersโผ๏ธ
1050 To
gtx 1650 super lore
Ti
g
null whats your spec
also i said gpu not cpu
1650 super is gigachad
32 gb of ram, gtx 1650 super, amd ryzen 5 3500
my laptop is 16 gb of ram, gtx 1650, ryzen 5 3600
maybe a bit of bottleneck?
thought that said 3500
idk how good 3500 is
not bad
i know 3600 is really good
it's pretty old at this point but when you're playing minecraft it's fien
dawg 3600 isn't that much more recent ๐ just look at the numbers
i dont really play that high spec of games
i play like Space engineers and mc and scrap mechanic and stormworks and terraria and shiz
my 6800xt lets me run 1440p 144hz monitor
what's your cpu
5600x
was thinking of 5800x3d
but i saw a video
and the bottleneck is almost non existent
man i play minecraft
and i played elden ring
and a lot of other games
they all hit 144 fpa
fair enough
i play fucking minecraft, btd6, and fortnite ๐
i did NOT need a 3070 ti
fitgirl repack rn
not bad
if you want to be overwhelmed play elden ring
the game wants you to read the creators mind
fr
Another question, would it be allowed for multiple people of the same team to man one ship?
Like a plane with a pilot and gunner seat
of course
has this pack been updated with latest clockwork/will the fight be on latest clockwork?
no and yes

like our team name? XD
.
wow so funny ๐ you are so based gigachad ๐ค omg you are so cool with your invisible nick and shit i think i just shat my pants ๐ฉ
shut up im just making the channel appear in my long ass channel list
It just seems fun
Not my style bc I like lots of colors but yknow
haha
null zend the eggman 3000
the what
I'm trying to put two cannons on one of my planes for cogfight but I keep getting the "a cannon must have one and only one opening and only one closed end
sometimes the cannons break a little
if you remove them entirely and put them back entirely it should work goodly again
then youre running minecraft cursed edition
I placed the back of the cannon the wrong direction
Time to make our plane(s)!
that look so cool
very steampunk-esque
it flies XD
that's all that matters
Is ir maneuverable 
No such thing
bro got a muzzle brake
Bro wrenched the end
if you right click the end with a wrench it makes it look cooler
Looks badass
oh fr??
does nothing other than that
bruh how did i not know this ๐ญ
Also you should add more barrels
More barrels supposedly means more projectile speed
really?
(Easier to hit moving targets)
it's a fact
it would look so dorky though XD
not supposedly, I have tried it myself and it very much works
Oooh
it in fact does make them faster
Do more recoil springs mean faster rate of fire?
no
Oh
the way i did it was using fans with nozzles
you don't even need them
the more time the stuffs spent in the fans, the more off course they'd be pushed
So just barrels change the effect?
one barrel was basically a pushover
Tf do they do then?
went like fully off course easy peasy
same as barrel really
but all 8 changed by like 15 degrees
So youre telling me im wasting an iron or so to make a fuckin spring
pretty much
i thought they were required
nah
Doesnt the ponder say you need them?
idfk, all I know is that they work without them
tricked by Big Cannon companies 
From what I could tell flak cartages don't break blocks, at least I couldn't, but the ap ones do
i couldnt get them to do much damage (yes i fuzed them)
kay so
yknow how big cannons have warheads that can be detonated
and must be fused to be like
good
flak rounds are the same
if you just pick em up out of the creative menu
oh your talking about the big cannons
oh really? ๐
oh
applie*
applies*
so what you're gonna wanna do is
take an autocannon flak round
like
and a
and a crafting table
and a fuze
for flak you'll prolly want proximity
whats that also
proximty fuze?
it just checks in front of the thing and if there's something in range of the configured fuze it'll detonate
whatever fuze you pick
if it's not impact, right click with it in your hand to set it to something
after that, craft it in a recipe with the flak autocannon round
then, put that fuzed round in a recipe with a filled cartridge, where the filled cartridge is below the round
then you'll have a flak round that actually detonates
to set it to what
a block?
for timed fuze, it would be time
for prox fuze, it would be blocks
so i can set a cartraige to explode when it gets in proximity of a certain block?
the airship actually flew
please make that a thing
also, how do you actually permanantly pin a post to always show on the left in discord??
no
oof
for what
the laser
you could blind people
you know it does nothing
make it an array
like 9 of them
YESSSS
itd be funny
nah
bro tryna weigh my plane down
electric?
and probably a Auric gem focus that has durability
auric gems are the things the physics infuser / phys bearing cores are made out of
PLEASEEEE
wait
make it a dungeons crossover
to that death laser thing
How expensive though?
VERY
๐ฆ
it would take lots of fuel to maintain the beam
:)
oh my god
thisll be fun to ruin people's day with
we also made this dinky dogfighter
but like
who needs that when you have this
and yeah it has a vault for ammo storage
XD
whoa hi secretmeister
ho
I believe i will make a ship for cogfight tonight
balloon? jet? biplane?
I likely wont make cogfightโany roundsโbut iโll share it incase someone doesnโt believe in their building abilities
Probably a combination or all three
Idk quite yet
If i put the effort in and cant make it, well shit that effort isnt gonna be wasted, iโm just gonna let someone else fuck with it
id recommend against a combo since then you get a duck can do just about anything but cant do anything particularly well
specialists rule in combat
True
All of the combinations iโve made in the past are more or less for backup
Incase a wing goes down, I can rely on a balloon or if that goes down i have integrated flaps in the frame of the ship, that way i can still make it with a jet
If the jet engine goes down weโre pretty fucked but it is what it is
if cc was allowed id get a friend to code me a fucking missile silo on a ship
it is alloewed
cc is already in the pack
WHAT
๐
NAW
yeah its been a thing
bro did not read the offical vote
technically there was never a pack release without it, but it was at one point planned to be removed
im not gonna participate in cogfight i will just be looking at the designs so i can implement them on a private server
my team is cuba and we are fighting china
does computer gps work with valkeryne skys?
well most people are going for functionality over looks so idk how they would work if you are trying to keep to a theme for that war
mine is literally a giant flying squid
china built the actual deathstar
they even made a meme about it
cool my squid is from star wars and is designed for combat versus ships bigger than itself
we have mekanism on their server
so they have a huge laser beneath
with potion diffusers to prevent mining in
and its made out of synthesized netherite since the nether is banned
yeah my thing is a giant squid with drills on the bottom mining fatigue cant touch drills
is it fabric
forge
yeah drills from create
bro some guy in genral told me it was fabric
no cogfight is fabric
๐
@opaque idol the only way to beat the deathstar we deduced is to use jetpack and fire res and fly into the laser system
where can you find it
yes
i am currently having huge lag issues anytime i turn it into a physics object but i can send you the schematic for my trident class ship if you can find a angel of attack where you can last like 1 minute without getting blown up it can mine into the death star for you
gps is being not wokring
working
thank you
the issue is the potion diffusers
you cant
alloyed not in
anymore
you can download the pack in pins
ok
we will have to find a work around
is it just those 4 mods?
also there are outer cannons
its curseforge launcher format
or create and flywheel too
i told you drills wont be affected by potions
there are like 10 goons and like 4 generals
no its in a modloader format
what is this?
ok do i just extract
gps array
or use curseforge
yeah but the people operating it
will be fucked
ok tysm
this makes no sense
how does it not make sense
ok axol il give a quick lesson on how modems work
modem messages have a distance based off what modem gets them
so if you offset them and they have preset cords then it can be triangulated
yes or no
so attack with a fleet my ship can take a few hits if they get wise and target it and the drill opens up to let the people inside jump into the hole they just made in the deathstar to escape the ships destruction
can i have gps array in cogfight
i dont see why not
its not on a ship
the core is most likely a fission reactor
so
and would boiler powersources be effective
breaking it will be a suicide mission
so our ground team entering will be on a suicide mission
i mean if you can manage to place it in the air then who is gonna stop u LMFAO
its just me and 2 other friends
just dont build it in the ocean
or off of the takeoff place
figure it out
pain
@opaque idol also we were toying with the idea of a space station
alright fighting a death star with 3 people is kinda impossible either way though so even if it kills you to break that core id call that a victory
my team said it could work but i need your opinion
can i just place it in creative?
no our ground team is
we have like 20 people
vs 10 inside the star
what if i just put it in my ship schem and dont assemble it with bluper glue
also breaking the fission reactor would radiate the whole ship and kill everyone inside and blow up like 80% of it
not sure if this is a bug but has anyone else noticed how little frosting is being drained from tanks
that would be at the landing strip then
@opaque idol can you please send me the drill design
aka prob no
?
i sent the schematic
ty
this thing
i mean sure but its not gonna show much of how it works
here i have some before i added the limbs so you can actually see the drill
ah ok i just want to show it to my team thats all
